1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: KFI am six forty. Good morning, my friend, and welcome home. 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: I am Dean Sharp, the house Whisperer, custom home builder, 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: custom home designer, and every week your guide to better 5 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: understanding that place where you live. Thanks for joining us 6 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: on the program. It's just a few minutes after seven 7 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning here on the West Coast. Wherever 8 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: you are, I hope the weather is treating you well. 9 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: It looks like our rains are gone, at least for 10 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: a while. No rain in the forecast right now. The 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: weather's still kind of cool. I'm going to say cool 12 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: because you know, we have people listening to us all 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: over the country, So I'm not going to say cold. 14 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: If you're sitting in twenty degree weather, you know, I'm 15 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: not going to say that Our fifty five degree mornings 16 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: are cold here in southern California. But they are cool. 17 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: You know. It's sweat a weather, uh, But the skies 18 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: are clear and a little breeze blowing out there. Looks 19 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: like it's going to be a glorious weekend. And yeah, 20 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: that's why we pay the big bucks to live here, 21 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: because it's going to get it into the sixties today 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: here in so Cal and it's going to be a 23 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: it looks to be a lovely week ahead. I hope that, uh, 24 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: you've got some great plans for the day, and I'm 25 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: glad that you are with us here right now as 26 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: we do as what we always do on Saturday mornings, 27 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: which is all calls. You set the agenda for what 28 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: it is that we're talking about today. We have room 29 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: on the callboard for you right now. So don't hesitate 30 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: whatever's got you scratching your head about your home. I 31 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: would love to talk to you about it. The number 32 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: to reach me eight three three two. Ask Dean eight 33 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 1: three three, the numeral two ask Dean eight three three two, 34 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: and then you just spell out ask Dean, and there 35 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: you go, and we'll put our heads together. We'll figure 36 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: out what's going on with your home. All right. I 37 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: want to go back to the phones. Rosa called me 38 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: last segment and she was asking about a gray water 39 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: system for her home, and I started to, you know, 40 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: explain what exactly graywater is. Graywater is the water that 41 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: goes down the drain from non food and sewage waste areas, 42 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: so not toilet water. Obviously, and in the code, not 43 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: water coming out of the kitchen sink, okay, or any 44 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: sink in which food waste could potentially go down. That 45 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: all has to be relegated to directly to the sewer. 46 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: But other sources like bathroom sinks, tubs, shower drains, even 47 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: laundry drains if they're handled well, the drain off of 48 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: the washing machine, if the detergents that you're using, are 49 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: you know, are biodegradable detergents, all of that can be 50 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: converted and directed away from the sewer system, which everybody 51 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,119 Speaker 1: would be happy if you wanted to do that into irrigation, 52 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: but there are rules for doing that. And so Rose 53 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: are you Are you still with me? 54 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm here, okay. 55 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: So the first and most important question here as far 56 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: as ease of doing this for your home is are 57 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: you sitting on a slab or do you have an 58 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: older home on a raised foundation? 59 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: So it is sitting on a slab, but I'm fortunate 60 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: that it is a new build. So we're just in 61 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: the process. We've got the slab down thin. I called 62 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: Las week about the slab, and so just starting to 63 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 2: put up the walls and just wondering if that's going 64 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: to help us since it's kind of just getting started. 65 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: Okay, but the slab is already poured and your drains 66 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: are kind of fixed in the slab as it stands 67 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: right now. So yeah, yeah, I mean it would have 68 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: been easier. We could have designed this in into the 69 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: slab before the slab got poured around the drains. So 70 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: we caught it a little late. But that's not to 71 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: say that you can't accommodate this now in the framing, okay, 72 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: to make sure that it works better in the framing. 73 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: And obviously drains that are on the exterior walls, this 74 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: is a lot simpler with them because there are requirements, 75 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: and so you should talk to your building department about it, okay, 76 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: because your building department, you're building inspector, is going to 77 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: be able to tell you, Okay, here's what you're gonna 78 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: here's what's going to be required, and now is the 79 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: time to integrate that. I was going to say that 80 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: anybody who's got an older home, which is ironic that 81 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: older homes that have you know, crawl spaces underneath them, 82 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: all of that drain line is exposed down there, there's 83 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: a room to access the drains, and so it's diverting 84 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: certain drains into a gray water system is so much 85 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: easier when we can get down and actually divert the drains. 86 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: But there are definite requirements. One of the requirements is 87 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: every one of those drains should have a we call 88 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: a three way valve or a diverter valve, so that 89 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: if you need to, you can redivert the drain to 90 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: its normal or standard route, I should say, and that 91 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: is into the sewage system. Okay, there should be a 92 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: valve there that allows that to happen or divert it 93 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: into irrigation. The goal is very simply this to have 94 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: a drain coming off of every p trap and sink 95 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: or drain line that's allowed. And like I said, that's 96 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: everything generally speaking, except for kitchen sinks and toilets. That 97 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: water can be taken out of the house. And here 98 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: are the general rules. The general rules for the state 99 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,239 Speaker 1: of California and the building code are that that water 100 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: leaves the house and has to stay on the property, 101 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:16,239 Speaker 1: meaning that we can't just divert that near a system, 102 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: you know, near an area where it gets picked up 103 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: with the storm drain. Because the the code and the 104 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: state doesn't want your gray water to run off onto 105 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: a sidewalk and then get caught in and end up 106 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: in the in the street for storm drainage, right, we 107 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: want to keep that water on your property. It normally 108 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: has to go into what's called a mulching filter. That 109 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: sounds far more complex than it actually is. That's simply 110 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: a mulch bed. It goes down through two inches of 111 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: mulch and or pea gravel. They we want to get 112 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: the water. It can come out above the surface, but 113 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: we want to get the water immediately below surface as 114 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: quickly as possible. Idea, it should be connected directly to 115 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: irrigation lines that go out for shrubs and lawn drip 116 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: lines and or larger pipes that will just allow it 117 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,559 Speaker 1: to apperforated pipes that allow it to mitigate out into 118 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: those areas You do not want or are allowed to 119 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: put gray water directly into, like vegetable gardens, because there 120 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: are certain components in gray water that could be absorbed 121 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: into you know, like root vegetables like carrots and things 122 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: like that that you don't want to be watering with 123 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: that kind of water. But lawns, shrubs, I mean the 124 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: majority of the landscaping around your home, trees. It all 125 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: works really, really well. It takes some thought to introduce 126 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: a gray water system into a landscape, but it's well 127 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: worth it. And you know, because we put out a 128 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: lot of wastewater out of our homes that doesn't need 129 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: to go into the sewage system and could be reclaimed. 130 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: But the goal is to keep it on your property. 131 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,559 Speaker 1: We wanted to absorb into your soil, be a part 132 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: of your landscape and by the time it actually reaches 133 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: the common aquifer for the community, by the time that 134 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: moisture moves it through, it has moved through layers and 135 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: layers of rock and soil and it has self filtered 136 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: and so but we don't want it running off to 137 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: the street. And those are the general parameters. Does that help? 138 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: Very helpful? Thank you? 139 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: All right? Ros Yeah, yeah, talk to your building inspector. 140 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: They'd be more than happy to explain to you, you know, 141 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: what would need to happen. And even though it would 142 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: have been nice to catch it in the design the 143 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: drain system to do that before the slab got poured, 144 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: you could still accommodate it in the framing, especially if 145 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: most of your drains like so many houses are are 146 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: on the exterior walls, so we can make accommodations for that. 147 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: So think it through. And you know what, as I 148 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: always say, design matters most when it comes to that, 149 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: So get ahead of it right now. All right, y'all. 150 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: That was a great call, a great question, and this 151 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: is why we take calls because everybody learns as a 152 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: result when we come back more of your calls. Your 153 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: home with Dean Sharp, the house whisper. Dean Sharp, the 154 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: house whisper here to help you take your home to 155 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: the next level. Welcome to the program. Thanks for joining us. 156 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: It is a privilege and a pleasure always to spend 157 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: time with you talking about your home. And like we 158 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: do on Saturday mornings, it's an all call Saturday morning. 159 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: You get to set the agenda for me. You tell 160 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: me what the show is about today. The number to 161 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: reach me eight three three two ask Dean eight three 162 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: three the numeral to ask Dean. All right, let's talk 163 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: to Tom. Hey Tom, welcome home, Hi, Dean. My house 164 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: is all one story. It's built on a ten foot 165 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: hill and the last twenty feet of the house extends 166 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: past the hill and is supported on the end by 167 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: three ten inch diameter steel posts that come up from 168 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: a concrete grade beam, and that last twenty feet which 169 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: is suspended in the air, forms the roof of the 170 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: Port of Cochere for the driveway. 171 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 3: And it's built with two by twelves on sixteen inch centers, 172 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 3: and my preliminary research says one thousand to two thousand 173 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 3: pounds per joice for an average of about forty pounds 174 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: per square foot loading between the combination of dead and 175 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 3: live weight. I want to put a two thousand pounds 176 00:10:55,120 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 3: safe up there, which as a total of eight square feet, 177 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 3: which would be a loading of like two hundred and 178 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 3: fifty pounds per square foot. Is it going to collapse 179 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 3: the floor or do I need to put in I 180 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 3: need to double up the joys or do something else. 181 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: Likely not, you know, especially as long as you know 182 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: here's the thing when you're locating that there are two 183 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: things I want to tell you about that. One is 184 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: you've obviously done your homework. And two by twelve floor 185 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: joists are pretty hefty, especially sixteen inches on center. They've 186 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: got a lot of resilience to them, live and dead load. 187 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: By the way, as Tom mentioned, for everybody who's listening, 188 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: they're like, okay, little, that's like engineers speak, dead load 189 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: is the weight is the engineering ratings for the house 190 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: holding up itself its own weight. That's the dead load. Okay, 191 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: So when we build a house, obviously the weight of 192 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: the house has to hold up you know, it has 193 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: to be held up by the structure of the house. 194 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: But houses are engineered for much more than it's dead load. 195 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: That's the beginning. And then of course you put stuff 196 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: in them. You put furniture and people and all of 197 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: the other stuff that goes into the house, and that 198 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: is the live load rating on top of the dead 199 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: load rating. Just fyi, So you kind of get the 200 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: gist there. The problem is not the overall weight. The 201 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: problem is it's weight specificity. In other words, it's where 202 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: it's coming down in a relatively small area. Two thousand 203 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: pounds is not something that is a stretch for any 204 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: floor to handle, because you know, that's like ten two 205 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: hundred pound people walking around inside that room. The house 206 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: is not going to collapse. But the idea of one 207 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: object sitting just you know, in a relatively small area 208 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: four by four area. Now we're putting a lot of 209 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: that weight on just a few of the framing members. 210 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 1: So we don't want that weight out in the middle 211 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: of a joist span, you know, you know, out in 212 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: the very center, that's where it's going to deflect and 213 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: cause the greatest strain. Ideally we want it, and not 214 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: that you would put us safe in the center of 215 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: the room anyway, but obviously it's better the closer we 216 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: get to those structural columns, the closer we get to 217 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: the edge of the room, the closer we get to 218 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: where the structural beams and the ridge beams, or handling 219 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: the load and transferring it down into the exterior walls 220 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: because those are footings supporting all of that. That being said, 221 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: it shouldn't you know. I At first glance, I'm not 222 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: thinking it's going to be a big problem. But but 223 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: because you were conscientious enough to call me and ask 224 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: me about it, my strong recommendation is that you spend 225 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: two or three hundred dollars and you dial up a 226 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: structural engineer. And when I say that, maybe an engineer 227 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: will tell you just over the phone, like yeah, no, 228 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: it sounds fine. It should be fine. But the best 229 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: way to go about doing it is to get a 230 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: consult an on site consult in which you just invite 231 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: a structural engineer to come over, take a look at 232 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: your situation, take a look at the room, and you know, 233 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: a live consult with an engineer is usually you know, 234 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: two to three hundred dollars and they'll be able to 235 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: tell you, you know what, I think you are fine here 236 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: or m yeah, a little concern you may want to 237 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: double up this or that, but that they would give 238 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: you the best possible on site advice when it comes 239 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: to that. I always call the engineer when those are 240 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: a factor in the initial design of a space or 241 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: the redesign of a space. Whenever there is a hefty 242 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: safe involved, and a lot of our clients have hefty 243 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: safes that we hide here there there we place in 244 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: very display, you know, whether it's a big old gun 245 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: safe or just an embedded safe. I always want to 246 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: make sure we don't just presume upon the framing. Even 247 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: though to date, I will tell you that I have 248 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: never been surprised by what an engineer has told me, 249 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: because you know, I'm pretty used to how live loads 250 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: work around those areas, and I generally have a good sense. 251 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: So my sense is Tom that you're probably good to go, 252 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: but just to be safe, I would tell you follow 253 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: my advice and call up an engineer and just have 254 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: them come out and give you a site inspection and 255 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: tell you, you know, give you that peace of mind. 256 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 3: Does the age of the wood make it stronger weaker 257 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 3: relative to something built recently? 258 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: No, not really, not really, it's not it's not the 259 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: age the the you know, if there's already deflection, if 260 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: there's already defects in deflection because of weight, then that 261 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: might be a concern, But it's not really the age 262 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: of the wood. You know, the the you know, if 263 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: it's fresh green lumber, then putting an excessive amount of 264 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: weight on it, like a brand new framing, that may 265 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: actually encourage it to move a little bit more, because 266 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: green lumber tends to move a little bit more before 267 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: it finally does its dry out period. But it's generally speaking, 268 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the age of the wood. 269 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: Wood is an incredibly resilient, incredibly strong product that holds up. 270 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: As long as it hasn't been compromised by termites or 271 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: dry rod or anything like that, we should be good 272 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: to go. 273 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 3: Now. 274 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: You know, a three hundred year old you know, two 275 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: by twelve is different than a sixty year old two 276 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: by twelve. But you know that's an extreme example. And 277 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: of course there were no two by twelves three hundred 278 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: years ago, so it's a facetious example as well. But yeah, 279 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: you should be good to go, my friend. Thanks for 280 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: the call, Tom, great question. Take that advice. Talk to 281 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: an engineer, just to be safe. Safe, get it all 282 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: right when we come back, more of your calls your home? 283 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: Do you get it? 284 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 3: Yes? 285 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: See, that's the kind of stuff you know. Golden Mike, 286 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: that's Golden MIC's it is. I'm going to nominate you, 287 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: all right. Thanks, all right, he there's got some news 288 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: for us. You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on 289 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: demand from KFI AM six forty. Dean Sharp, the house whisperer, 290 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: here to help you transform your ordinary house into an 291 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: extraordinary home. Welcome to our Saturday morning program. It's an 292 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: all calls Saturday like we do every week, just taking 293 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: your calls, design questions, DIY, construction issues, you name it. 294 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: Whatever's got you scratching your head about your home. Give 295 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: me a call and we'll talk, and I will put 296 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: our heads together and we'll get it worked out. Let's 297 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: go back to the phones. I want to talk to Sandy. Hey, Sandy, 298 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 1: welcome home. 299 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Do to brain damage, I can't 300 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 4: do fragrance. And I need a some type of a 301 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 4: finish singer for my wooden front doors and my thresholds 302 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 4: all across the back of the house, which would be 303 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 4: the family room clear across into the dining room. 304 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 3: So I hope you have. 305 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: A sigestion, okay, So a finish, a wood finish, because 306 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: you've finish, you've had finished with no smell, Okay. Then 307 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: what you're looking for is a a category of products 308 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: that are considered or known as low VOC. Okay, low 309 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: VOC that's volatile organic compounds. VOC is the organic compounds 310 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: that are volatile or that's that's that's the fumes that 311 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: come off of and the smell that comes off of 312 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: finishing products of various sorts around the house. So you're 313 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: looking for things that are categorized as low VOC. Probably 314 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: two of the best when it comes to wood finishes 315 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: that are quality would be what pops to mind is verathane. 316 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: Verathane makes a no odor polyurethane, and it's tough, and 317 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: it does its job, and and it's true, there's there's 318 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: no odor that remains behind. That would be my first choice. 319 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: There are others. Earthpaint dot net okay is a site 320 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: that you can go to to find various finishes that 321 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: fall into that category. Earthpaint dot net and look for 322 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,719 Speaker 1: zero not low, but zero VOC finishes. The only thing 323 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: I want you to be aware of is that some 324 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: some you know, low and zero VOC finishes are not 325 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: as you know, they're not as rugged as others, and 326 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: so you just want to, you know, evaluate you want 327 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: the strongest possible finish that you can get without the 328 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: odors affecting you. 329 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 5: Uh. 330 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: And then there's a product called polly Way poly w 331 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: h e y Okay by Vermont Natural Codings, also a 332 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: solid choice. So there are three there for you. There 333 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: are more out there that don't pop to mind at 334 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: the moment, but you're looking for low or no VOC products. 335 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. I had no idea where to 336 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 4: go we like, except to you, So I appreciate your help. 337 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: You are very welcome. That's why I'm here, Thanks Sandy. 338 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: I appreciate the uh, the the the bump uh. You see, Heather, 339 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. So that's what I'm saying. 340 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm saying old Mike time, because you know 341 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: we do what we do here, all right, do we? 342 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: Oh she's not, of course she's not. She's off getting 343 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: her award. Okay, you know what, we're right up against 344 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: the break. Instead of going late to it and picking 345 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: up a call right now, we'll just go in a 346 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: few seconds early and come out the other side with 347 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: plenty of time. Your home with Dean Sharp the house Whisper. 348 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: Dean Sharp, the house Whisper, here to remind you every 349 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: home deserves great design, especially yours, because you live your 350 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: life there, and I'm here to help you with it. 351 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: It is an all call Saturday morning. Man. Two hours 352 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: just flies by, But I still have time right here 353 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: at the end for yet another call. Who's it gonna be? 354 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: And by the way, if I didn't get to your 355 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: call this morning, which is always the case, call back, 356 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: call back on Sunday, call back next week, and let 357 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: our call screener know that hey, I was didn't get 358 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: on last time, and we'll put you right to the 359 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: front of the line. Don't fib about it. Don't use 360 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: that as an ext you know, this is just a 361 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: service we provide because we want to honor you for trying. 362 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: We'll give you a fast pass to the front of 363 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: the line. You just let us know that you were 364 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: on hold and didn't make it on the air. All right, 365 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: let's get back to the phones. I want to talk to Tony. Hey, Tony, welcome. 366 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 5: Home, good morning. 367 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: How are you sir? How can I help you? 368 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 5: Well, we have a problem with our pocket door. It's 369 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 5: off the track and I'm wondering if it can be 370 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 5: repaired without removing all the moldings. 371 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: It's a good question, and it's possible. It's possible. When 372 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 1: we say it's off the track, what do we mean exactly? 373 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: Can you describe it to me? 374 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 5: Well, I, well it won't. Could God help me? John? 375 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 5: He wants to know, explain exactly what's wrong. The roller 376 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 5: has come off the trap. That's I'm talking to my caregivers. 377 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: So okay, the roller has come off the track. Okay, 378 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: uh yeah, there's a good chance. There's a good chance 379 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: that you can resolve it if it's a single wheel 380 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: or in line roller. In other words, if what we 381 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: call a J track, the track comes down, the metal 382 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: comes down, and then it curves up as if you 383 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: look at in cross section like it's the letter J. 384 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: That's what you know. Unfortunately, I say this in all honesty. Unfortunately, 385 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 1: that's what most pocket doors that people have in their 386 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: homes are. It's the cheapest of roller tracks. It's kind 387 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: of the builder special of pocket doors. It's the it's 388 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: the very track that is the reason most people are 389 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: under the mistake and belief that pocket doors suck because 390 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: they they fail because it's just a cheap track. And 391 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: by the way, pocket doors in no way, shape or 392 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: form are a bad thing. They are awesome. Pocket doors 393 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: have been around for centuries and there are pocket doors 394 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: around that are one hundred plus years old right here 395 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: in our town that are still working perfectly well. It's 396 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: not about the concept, it's about the quality of the 397 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: hardware that the door is hanging from. Most of us 398 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 1: live in tracked homes that have these little builder special, 399 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: cheap o pocket doors that aren't worth the money that 400 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: they're actually you know that you spend on them in 401 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: any way, shape or form. But the one thing about 402 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: a derailed J track pocket door is that it could 403 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: be manipulated back up to get the wheel back on 404 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: the track because it has popped off to the side. 405 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: Sometimes that happens just because somebody you know, opens the 406 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: pocket door too fast. It hits the backside of the 407 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: pocket jam and the jar kind of jolts it and 408 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: it jumps the track. Other times it's because the wheel 409 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: is damaged. The other fortunate thing about that is that 410 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: those wheels are super commonplace. You can find them in 411 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: the hardware section of the hardware store, the big box store, 412 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: the home depot, or the lows that that's the kind 413 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: of pocket door wheel that's there. A good quality pocket 414 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: door actually can't jump the track because it's got parallel 415 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: wheels next to it that are locked into the track, 416 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: and it can't it can't actually jump off. But if 417 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: it's jumped off, Yeah, go ahead, Tony, this is. 418 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 5: An old house. How old is the house? That seventy 419 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 5: years old? And we've had I've had several people look 420 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 5: at that they just kind of walk away or they 421 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 5: can't fix it. 422 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, it may be, especially if it's the back 423 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 1: wheel that's that's way back in the you know, that's 424 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: in the pocket itself. So here's the thing that it 425 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: can still be fixed. It's just a little bit more extensive. 426 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: Get a handy person or a contractor out there because 427 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: what happens is the door itself likely is going to 428 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: have to be pulled out and removed from the pocket. 429 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: And the reason that that's not easy to do is 430 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: that after a pocket door is hung, after the door 431 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: is hung in its place, there are trim moldings that 432 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: are put on to hold the door in place so 433 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't swing wildly back and forth when it's out 434 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: in the opening. So those trim moldings have to be 435 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: very carefully raizored. The paint has to be razored along 436 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: the edge so that doesn't you know, screw up the 437 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: rest of the paint on the jam, and those trim 438 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: moldings are going to have to be pried off. Chances 439 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: are they'll get damaged. You may have to replace them. 440 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: They're just a few dollars of trim molding. But we've 441 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: got to take those trim moldings off the three sides 442 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: of the jam, the pocket side on the door jam, 443 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: the wall side, and the top on one side. Okay, 444 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: we don't have to take them off on both sides 445 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,239 Speaker 1: because we're only going to take the door out in 446 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: one direction, but one side of those trim moldings are 447 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 1: going to have to be removed and pull the nails 448 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: out that are left over and kind of get that 449 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: open and then force the door over into the actual 450 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: closed position. And then with a pocket door wrench. And 451 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: that's something that a lot of people aren't aware of. 452 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: The only way to actually get to the hardware bolts 453 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: that are hanging a door is with a pocket door wrench. 454 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: And it's very, very tedious, but it works. You can 455 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: go down to the hardware store. You can get a 456 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: pocket door wrench. Pocket door wrench is a just a flat, 457 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: cheap piece of metal that is bent at an angle 458 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: at the top, so it allows you to slide it 459 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: in above the track and actually get to the nuts 460 00:27:55,560 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 1: that are holding the door onto the assembly. We loosen 461 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: those up so that they'll pop off, not the wheels, 462 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: but the door will pop off, and then you can 463 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 1: finagle the door out of the pocket. And once the 464 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: door is free of the pocket, then that's when we 465 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: can actually go to work on the track. We can 466 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: check to see if the track has come down, if 467 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: the screws are loose in the track, whether it needs 468 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: to be tightened up, and we can get replacement wheels 469 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: for that track and then get the door rehung properly rebalanced, 470 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: and then the trim has to go on, so it's 471 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: not it's not just a quick oh, we're just gonna 472 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: pop this back on, especially if the wheel that has 473 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: come has jumped the track is the one that's buried 474 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: back in the pocket. So understandable. And and it takes 475 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: some finesse. It takes some finesse maybe to get the 476 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: door out of the pocket without damaging or marring up 477 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: the door. It might be stuck in there pretty good. 478 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: This is why I beg people, please please don't have 479 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: it take to put pocket doors in your home if 480 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: you're doing a remodel, but do the right thing and 481 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: buy the right hardware. There's nothing special about the door, 482 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: by the way. Pocket doors are just doors, the door itself. 483 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: It's all about the pocket and the hardware on the 484 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: track up there. That's what makes the difference in the end. 485 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: And there's pocket door hardware. So just fyi, if you're 486 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: building a remodel or a new construction, your pocket door 487 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: hardware should cost you more than one hundred dollars. Okay, 488 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: about one hundred and fifty dollars will get you a 489 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: brilliant Johnson hardware pocket door hardware that will serve the 490 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: life of the home. I mean, it'll hang there for 491 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: one hundred years and not give you any problems. Soft open, 492 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: soft clothes, big four wheel, parallel wheels. They glide easy, 493 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: and you'll you'll love it. You'll you'll it'll change your 494 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: mind about pocket doors. And of course there are others 495 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: as well, but that's the minim you should spend on 496 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: the pocket door if you wanted to actually function ten years, 497 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: twenty years, or in Tony's case, seventy years from now. Tony, 498 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: thank you for your question. That's how you got to 499 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: approach it. So you can have to get somebody in there. 500 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: It's nothing as impossible. It's just simply a matter of 501 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: getting somebody in there who knows what they're doing and 502 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: who's willing to make the effort to get that door 503 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: free and out of the opening for you. All right, y'all, Well, 504 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: that's a wrap on today's show. We're going to be 505 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: right back here tomorrow for the Big show from nine 506 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: to noon. I'm going to be introducing you to some 507 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: new innovative stuff that we pulled out of the best 508 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: of the International Builder Show, which just wrapped up this week. 509 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: So that and of course more of your calls that 510 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: all happens tomorrow. Until then, get out into this day 511 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: and your life, make the most of it, and get 512 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: busy building yourself a beautiful life, and we'll see you 513 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: right back here tomorrow. This has been Home with Dean Sharp, 514 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: the House Whisper. Tune into the live broadcast on KFI 515 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: AM six forty every Saturday morning from six to eight 516 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: Pacific time, and every Sunday morning from nine to noon 517 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: Pacific time, or anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.