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Speaker 5: Happy Wednesday to you, Brian. Regarding the Hamilton County and

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Speaker 1: But if you have a victim pressing charges, see you

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Speaker 5: One of the folks did take did take videos of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what a shame.

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Speaker 6: I I hear the story of the guy that's the

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Speaker 6: Or here's why we can't do that something at least

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Speaker 1: Number twenty five all Democrat homicide rate top US thirty

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Speaker 6: great day, Brian.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Tom, You do the same. Oh that do we

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Speaker 1: have time for Jay? You mean to hold Jay Welcome

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Speaker 4: Jay?

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Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday?

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Speaker 7: I wanted to thank Alisha Reese. It wasn't for her

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Speaker 7: So I'm glad she's coming around, and I'm glad she

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Speaker 7: quick this time of year, just to remind listeners, the

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Speaker 4: He paid it all and that is the gift of Christmas.

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Speaker 7: So anybody that thinks that maybe they're not doing enough,

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Speaker 7: into heaven. It's heartbreaking. If you're a Christian, you've accepted Christ.

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Speaker 7: He paid it all. All you have to do is

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Speaker 7: accept the gift and remember that's the reason for Christmas.

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Speaker 7: And following brother Tom, don't vote Democrat, don't vote Rhino,

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Speaker 7: and have a good day.

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Speaker 1: Brian glad he ate it on that little extra point there,

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Speaker 1: Jay appreciated. Okay, so yes, celebrate Christmas for that, but

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Speaker 1: Cincinni Quiry reporting camera night. Alex Trevinsky, he's on trial.

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Speaker 1: He was just merely trying to defend himself. He didn't

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Speaker 1: prosecutorial resources to continue to go after this guy. In

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Speaker 1: what world does this happen where they let people off

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Speaker 1: and do not prosecute them for crimes that we have

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Speaker 1: but no prosecution. Go ahead, figure that one out. If

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Speaker 1: The twenty twenty six World Cup. It's coming the United States, Mexico,

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Speaker 1: And last week the presidents of all three countries attended

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Speaker 1: and participated in the draw to determine which teams were

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Speaker 1: playing in which groups. And yes, in the United States,

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Speaker 1: one of the host cities, our favorite, Seattle, the match

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Speaker 1: in Seattle taking place June twenty six. You can't make

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Speaker 1: this up, but prior to the draw, local organizers in

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Speaker 1: Seattle decided that the theme for that particular night, twenty

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Speaker 1: June is something called Pride Month. Who's playing in the

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Speaker 1: June twenty sixth match in Pride celebrating Seattle? Egypt and Iran?

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Speaker 1: What In case you haven't gotten a memo yet. Iran

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Speaker 1: probably going to be well flogged, end up in jail,

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Speaker 1: or face the death penalty. I'm sure my listeners remember

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Speaker 1: reading many articles they've read over the years about what

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Speaker 1: happens to gay lesbians, homosexuals, anybody in the LGBTQ plus rainbow.

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Speaker 1: They end up dying or get mistreated, to say the

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Speaker 1: least article I was reading on this one back in

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Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, seventeen people arrested and some beaten for attending

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Speaker 1: year old quote unquote queer activists disappeared and murdered by

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Speaker 1: Iranian security officials. The list goes on and on and on.

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Speaker 1: but it does use other quote unquote criminal acts like

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Speaker 1: and a fine, and law enforcement searches dating apps to

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Speaker 1: hunt these people down. Notably, the Pride branding for the

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Speaker 1: twenty sixth of the June Game is not a FIFA initiative. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask anybody believe that the the Iranians and

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Speaker 1: the Egyptians are actually going to stand for this. They're

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Speaker 1: going to be in a stadium filled with more gay

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Speaker 1: pride for flags, and you could shake a stick at.

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Speaker 3: This.

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Speaker 1: This is something they are fundamentally opposed to, at least

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Speaker 1: from an Islamic perspective. So, yeah, that was a great one.

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Speaker 1: You know, It's something I think God has a great

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Speaker 1: sense of humor. I mean, seriously, what are the odds?

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Speaker 1: And hell, maybe it was fixed to end up that way. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: was worthy. Five forty five fifty five care City Talk

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Speaker 1: De Talk Station Bryan Thomas right here. Thanks good to

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Speaker 1: be back, although I did really enjoy my time off.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again. Garrey, Jeff Walker and Dan Carroll Cover in

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Speaker 1: formed me back to the stack is stupid. We've got

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Speaker 1: a Palm Coast, Florida. Twenty seven year old Kyl Poe

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Speaker 1: pulled over a police on the twenty ninth morning of

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Speaker 1: direction and then failed to yield or come to a

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Speaker 1: complete stop when turning around, stopping in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the intersection after officers turned on their lights. Flagler County

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Speaker 1: Sheriff's Office release pointing this out. Officers approached the vehicle

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Speaker 1: found Poe in the driver's seat, her two year old

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Speaker 1: in the back seat, along with another woman probably cause

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Speaker 1: statement obtained by long Crime and well of course reported

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Speaker 1: by it. While speaking with Poe, I observed slurred speech,

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Speaker 1: watery and bloodshot eyes, delayed reaction time, and difficulty with

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Speaker 1: divided attention. Poe asked to exit the vehicle, which she did. However,

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Speaker 1: she exhibited difficulty in maintaining her balance upon standing, although

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Speaker 1: a post said she had not consumed any substances that

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Speaker 1: might impair driving ability. Officers conducted a sobriety test and

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Speaker 1: observed multiple signs of inebriation that are brought to the

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Speaker 1: socks and saw seven and a half pills, which were

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Speaker 1: later identified as xanax fallout Yes, Sir Joshtracker cord to

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Speaker 1: the press release, A further search found more Xanax pills

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Speaker 1: wrapped in clear plastic concealed inside Poe's genital area. Deputy

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Speaker 1: to transport a Poe to the jail reviewed or patrol

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Speaker 1: vehicles backseat camera was showed Poe removingn item from the

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Speaker 1: panning of her bra and place it into her genital

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Speaker 1: area as tradition it is, isn't it? Court to Sheriff

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Speaker 1: for Eckstali in a statement, the first this woman did

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Speaker 1: something incredibly dangerous and stupid by driving under the influence

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Speaker 1: of drug with a young toddler in the car. Then

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Speaker 1: on her way to the jail. She thought she would

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Speaker 1: not get caught with xanax, trying to hide it in

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Speaker 1: body cavities, but she got hot caught in now Face's

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Speaker 1: additional felony charge charge of driving under the influence, refusal

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Speaker 1: to submit to DUI testing, smuggling controlled substances, controlled substances

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Speaker 1: with an intent to sell, and tampering with evidence. Now

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Speaker 1: the interest of FCC compliance, I can't say out loud

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Speaker 1: the full word that was used, but this is an

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Speaker 1: illustration of the problems that we face versus our quote

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Speaker 1: unquote friends on the other side of the big pond,

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Speaker 1: the Atlantic Ocean. Elizabeth Kinney, thirty four year old single

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Speaker 1: mother from a Tranmere, mary Side I believe this is UK,

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Speaker 1: dragged naked from her bathtub last month when eleven police officers,

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Speaker 1: arrest her. Why well, Apparently, while she was recovering in

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Speaker 1: were inflicted by a male acquaintance, she sent a private

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Speaker 1: or rather private text messages to a former friend that

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Speaker 1: included the word well, I just say the F word,

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Speaker 1: a derogatory term used to describe gay men. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying talking about? Or a cigarette if you're British, Yes, Joe,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Excellent observation. Anyway, that was how she the

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Speaker 1: words she used to describe her attacker again in a

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Speaker 1: private text messages to former friend the receipt report the

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Speaker 1: report of the message is recipient. Rather report of the

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Speaker 1: message is grossly offensive. So whoever this friend was the

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Speaker 1: one that apparently reported her number? Twentieth Kenny pleaded guilty

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Speaker 1: to add Stephan Magistrates Courts descending malicious communication aggravated by

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Speaker 1: homophobic hate. Fine three hundred and sixty four pounds, given

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Speaker 1: a community order and forced to apologize an open court.

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Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, reminiscent of conversation we had earlier this morning

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Speaker 1: with pat no charges brought against the man who assaulted her.

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Speaker 1: This woman appeared on Piers Morgan uncensored. She described the

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Speaker 1: Mayorside Police Department said deploying that many officers was proportionate

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Speaker 1: for public protection. Clearly they're not struggling with financial limitations

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Speaker 1: in that particular police department. If they got eleven free

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Speaker 1: officers to go and arrest someone for a word, remember

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Speaker 1: how great it is to live in the United States

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Speaker 1: of America. As bad as you might perceive that word

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Speaker 1: to be, at least if you use it, you're not

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Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, which means we get Jack Avid in the

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Speaker 1: Big Picture with Jack Ovita in every Wednesday at seven

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Speaker 1: oh five. Don't know what it means, we find out

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Speaker 1: together the topic love and terror. Laurence Stewart Donovan Neil's

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Speaker 1: Lawrence stew To talk about Obamacare subsidies. Have got a

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Speaker 1: Massey eight oh five, followed by Napolitano, of course, judging

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Speaker 1: Polatano on Wednesdays. I love when Massy proceeds, and particularly

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Speaker 1: the third subject with Congressman Massy blowing up drug smugglers

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Speaker 1: Judge and Politano the name of his column, kill them All,

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Speaker 1: and that also involves blowing up drug smugglers, is going

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Speaker 1: to be a vote on that. Senate facing a vote

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Speaker 1: next week to block Trump on Venezuela or maybe approve it.

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Speaker 1: They could authorize you some military force and let Trump

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Speaker 1: go on his merry way blowing people up. We'll see

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Speaker 1: what Massey has to say about that, but he'll also

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Speaker 1: be talking about the pipe bomber being identified Erkele I

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Speaker 1: think was his name, h and us getting out of NATO.

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Speaker 1: Really gonna be fascinated by Congress and Massy's comments on that.

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Speaker 1: seems to be the only one of the three that

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Speaker 1: has any concept about what's right and what's wrong. She

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Speaker 1: cited the three hundred and fifty million dollars in stadium

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Speaker 1: upgrades that the county commissioners found in the budget. And

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Speaker 1: yet we have Hamilton County Prosecutor Countie Pillitch worried about

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Speaker 1: the ten percent cut that's coming her way if her

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Speaker 1: budget is not increased. She's got more crime to deal with,

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Speaker 1: more grand jury indictment, it's more complex matters, and the

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Speaker 1: commissioners are talking about cutting her budget. So I consider

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Speaker 1: that just one more leg of defund the police. Defund

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Speaker 1: the police. Well, they're getting a raise coming up this year,

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Speaker 1: but no, we can't defund the police completely, bad idea.

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Speaker 1: The public doesn't like that anymore. Turns out we all

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Speaker 1: like law enforcement in our neighborhood. So let's just defund

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Speaker 1: the prosecutor's office. Pat called the last hours that his

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Speaker 1: brother got to beat down and over the rhine and

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Speaker 1: they just let the guy go, didn't prosecute him at all. Why,

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Speaker 1: good question, We don't know. So Alisha resee the tail

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Speaker 1: end of the program, and thank you Alicia for green

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Speaker 1: to join the Morning Show this morning. Three seven, four,

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Speaker 1: nine fifty five eight hundred eight two to three talk

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Speaker 1: pound five point fifty on AT and T phones. Now

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Speaker 1: Democrats are moving forward, and this was a promised thing.

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Speaker 1: You knew it was coming. The continuing Resolution which led

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Speaker 1: to the government shut down. The reopening of the government

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Speaker 1: was came along with the promise from the Republicans that

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Speaker 1: they would move forward and vote on the continuation of

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Speaker 1: these Obamacare subsidies, the ones that mask the pain for

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Speaker 1: even people making north a six hundred percent of the

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Speaker 1: poverty level. You don't have to pay the premium. You

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Speaker 1: don't realize how expensive it's got. The expense is a

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Speaker 1: reflection of the failure of the entire process. Obamacare doesn't

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Speaker 1: work and it's a mecca for fraud. And now I

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Speaker 1: can turn to the editorial board of the Wall Street

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Speaker 1: Journalist summarize what we've talked about previously, but also a

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Speaker 1: more fundamental point that I want to make regardless of

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Speaker 1: whether they vote in favor of extending the subsidies or

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Speaker 1: they go with a Republican proposal, which is like establishing

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Speaker 1: these health savings accounts to put money in for premiums.

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Speaker 1: It's sort of like the money follows the individual, as

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Speaker 1: opposed to going directly to the insurance companies. Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: on record, I don't want the money going to the

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Speaker 1: insurance companies. I think we can all get around that concept.

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Speaker 1: But this GAO study that we talked about last week,

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Speaker 1: under cover tests they submitted insurance applications for fictitious individuals

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Speaker 1: under the Obamacare Exchange. Nearly all of the invented people

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Speaker 1: the GAO created were able to enroll in subsidized plans

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Speaker 1: that will be your tax payer dollars at workfolks, despite

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Speaker 1: the fact that they submitted either false records or no

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Speaker 1: records to verify their identities and incomes. Now it was

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Speaker 1: a small slice. Remember these was this whole cloth created people.

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Speaker 1: They didn't exist. Twenty four applications, of which twenty three

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Speaker 1: approved eighteen arrollees still covered as a September, which suggest

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Speaker 1: the exchange and insurers didn't bother verifying information even after enrollment.

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Speaker 1: Subsidies pay two insurance companies for those loan eighteen applicants

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Speaker 1: total more than ten thousand dollars per month. Ten thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars per month, which is equivalent to a sixty seven

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars annual subsidy for each enrolling. The general Counting

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Speaker 1: Office said in some cases, in their words, we were

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Speaker 1: not prompted to provide documentation to verify the applicant's identity

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Speaker 1: no Social Security number. Apparently that was not a problem.

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Speaker 1: Another instance, Obamacare Exchange notified US GAO that had verified

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Speaker 1: the applicants' estimated income based upon documentation we submitted. However,

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Speaker 1: the GAO pointed out we didn't submit any documentation. In

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Speaker 1: two cases, brokers called the Obamacare called the Obamacare Help

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Speaker 1: Center because applicants had submitted invalid social Security numbers. Brokers

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Speaker 1: doing what they're supposed to do. The center let the

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Speaker 1: brokers submit the fraudulent applications anyway, which they conclude suggests

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Speaker 1: that Center for Medical and Medicaid Services, which runs the

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Speaker 1: federal Obamacare Exchange, was just simply ignoring fraud. Nah why bother?

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Speaker 1: GAO also analyzed the ROMAN data in twenty three and

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Speaker 1: twenty four for additional anomalies, finding more than twenty nine

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Speaker 1: thousand SOCA security numbers in twenty twenty three and nearly

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Speaker 1: sixty eight thousand Social Security numbers in twenty twenty four

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Speaker 1: used to receive more than one year's worth of insurance

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Speaker 1: coverage with subsidies in a single year, meaning the same

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Speaker 1: Social Security numbers used by more than one person. How

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Speaker 1: is that even possible? I mean, we can live in

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Speaker 1: a world of electronics, artificial intelligence. Cross referencing this stuff

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Speaker 1: is a real challenge. I would like to think.

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Speaker 8: Not.

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Speaker 1: They don't care, they say in one so security never

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Speaker 1: used to apply for more than one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: five policies. Maybe identity theft possible. Brokers submitted fake security

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Speaker 1: numbers to enroll ineligible or phantom people in plans because

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Speaker 1: brokers earn more in commission from insurers if they enroll

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Speaker 1: more people in Obamacare. Shocking, that would invite fraud. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, I'm shocked. There's gambling here. Justice de Barbin

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Speaker 1: charged numerous brokers with enrolling people in Obamacare plans or

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Speaker 1: switching them to new plans without their consent. They identified

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Speaker 1: at least thirty thousand applicants in twenty twenty three and

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Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty thousand of them in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four that had in the GAOS reporting likely unauthorized changes

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Speaker 1: by agents or brokers.

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Speaker 4: Huh.

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Speaker 1: Maybe because of the financial incentive brokers have to well lie,

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Speaker 1: you create a system, you create giant holes, we'll call

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Speaker 1: them loopholes, or just the failure of our elected officials

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Speaker 1: to anticipate fraud, wasted abuse that happens in literally every

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Speaker 1: government program by putting in measures and stops to prevent

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Speaker 1: this from happening. And look what happens. Even the brokers

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Speaker 1: get in on the game. It's not just Somali immigrants

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota, different department, I understandl Also, GOO also found

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Speaker 1: that incomes were not later verified for enrollees who received

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Speaker 1: twenty one billion dollars in calendar year twenty twenty three A,

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Speaker 1: meaning they might have received bigger subsidies than they were

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Speaker 1: eligible for. Well, you wouldn't know, because it didn't check

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Speaker 1: Paragon health institutes. Brian Blaze warned that Obamacare's lacks verification

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Speaker 1: controls encourage people to understate income to get bigger subsidies.

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Speaker 1: Ah individuals also getting in on the fraud. Wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: they're not going to verify my income. No, I don't

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Speaker 1: make one hundred and ninety thousand dollars a year. I

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Speaker 1: make forty. There's nobody behind the scenes looking into that,

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Speaker 1: even though the IRS presumably would have the information about

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Speaker 1: your income, which is of course attached to your Social

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Speaker 1: Security number. Again, Artificial intelligence or simple computers or even

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Speaker 1: people walking between departments could go over and find this out.

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Speaker 1: I know I'm making it a little more simplistic than

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Speaker 1: it is, but you know, damn well, it doesn't require

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Speaker 1: a physical human being to go back and forth or

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Speaker 1: crosscheck social Security numbers. Paragon Health Blaze, using Census Bureau data,

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Speaker 1: estimates that six point four million people this year were

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Speaker 1: improperly enrolled in subsidized Obamacare plans, costing you and me

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Speaker 1: twenty seven billion dollars. It just gets worse and worse.

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Speaker 1: And then when you shift over to the problem that

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Speaker 1: was revealed in Minnesota, autism, autism, is it exploding? No,

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Speaker 1: Welfare fraud is the reason that we have more autistic

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Speaker 1: children out there because they're not autistic. They just found

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Speaker 1: out that if you say someone's autistic, could get a

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Speaker 1: whole crap load of money from the federal government. And

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Speaker 1: they're not going to bother following up either. Another epic

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Speaker 1: failure under a giant program from the government which is

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Speaker 1: supposed to be looking out for our taxpayer dollars. Apparently,

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Speaker 1: states rarely verify that kids who are diagnosed actually meet

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Speaker 1: the medical criteria for autism, or that they get appropriate

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Speaker 1: treatment from qualified specialists after they've been identified as autistic,

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Speaker 1: label them autistic, charge the government from massive treatment protocols,

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Speaker 1: the government does not follow up. This is the same

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Speaker 1: problem we face with a multitude of layers of government,

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Speaker 1: notably the City of Cincinnati. Todd Zenzer, Citizen Watchdog, there's

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Speaker 1: all kinds of NGOs out there with their hand in

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Speaker 1: the city taxpayer cookie jar that are getting funded every year.

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Speaker 1: Todd Zenzer regularly asked and has never been provided the information.

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Speaker 1: Has anybody checked to see where this money went? Does

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Speaker 1: anybody find out if these NGOs actually did the work

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Speaker 1: that they claim they're doing with the money they got

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Speaker 1: from the city taxpayer? The answer ultimately no. Same thing

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Speaker 1: going in on a much broader scale in the federal

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Speaker 1: government with these programs, children covered by Medicaid or the

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Speaker 1: government run Children's Health Insurance program CHIP described as two

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Speaker 1: point five times as likely as those with private coverage

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Speaker 1: to be diagnosed with autism. Oh, many lower income kids

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Speaker 1: are labeled autistic merely because they have behavioral or developmental problems.

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Speaker 1: So let's blame it on Maybe racism is that it

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Speaker 1: get another autistic kid in there, label them autistic, and

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Speaker 1: we'll say, well, they're lower income kids. Maybe it's consequence

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Speaker 1: of racism.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Court On, Massachusetts, Officer of Office of Inspector General, another

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Speaker 1: state where they found widespread fraud autism behavioral services, in

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Speaker 1: his words, compromise what comprised rather one of the fastest

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Speaker 1: growing healthcare industries in the United States, there's an increased

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Speaker 1: need for vigilance in program integrity to keep pace with

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Speaker 1: the glowing number of ABA providers. Minnesota number one, the

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Speaker 1: number of autism providers soared Are you ready seven hundred percent?

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Speaker 1: The providers soared that much. Payments of them increased three

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Speaker 1: thousand percent between twenty eighteen and twenty twenty three. And

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Speaker 1: the big case in Minnesota, we all know why it

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Speaker 1: was all built on fraud. Go out into the community,

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Speaker 1: the smaller community in that particular case, Grab a kid,

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Speaker 1: label them autism, put him in one of these programs.

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Speaker 1: The seven hundred percent increase in autism providers, and everybody

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Speaker 1: gets paid. Federal audits of Medicaid spending audit on autism

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Speaker 1: therapies in Indiana and blessed Brian, that's my first day

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Speaker 1: back Indiana. And Wisconsin, two more states they say turned

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Speaker 1: up widespread abuses. Nearly all Medicaid payments were improper or

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Speaker 1: potentially improper, meaning the providers didn't adhere to the federal requirements.

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Speaker 1: They say in Indiana, therapy was provided by staff who

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Speaker 1: did not have the appropriate credentials and to children who

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Speaker 1: did not receive the required diagnostic, evaluation or treatment referrals.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's better they find out later than never.

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Speaker 1: He may say, well, look, the obligation to provide financial reporting,

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Speaker 1: proper sources, security numbers, proper diagnosis, at least in the

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Speaker 1: case of autism and getting money for the autism programs,

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Speaker 1: it says you have to do it. But if there's

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Speaker 1: no entity or organization or oversight body that's looking into

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Speaker 1: and following up on whether they actually provided the documents,

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Speaker 1: they didn't do it. They pay lip service to looking

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Speaker 1: out for fraud wasted abuse by requiring this documentation. But

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Speaker 1: if there isn't a group to follow up and verify

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Speaker 1: that it was provided, welcome to the world of billions

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Speaker 1: and billions and billions of dollars in theft. So, depending

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Speaker 1: on cole, Congress chooses to approach subsidies under Obamacare, whether

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Speaker 1: they increase them, approve them, say no, go a different direction.

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Speaker 1: What I would like on behalf of anverybody who pays

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Speaker 1: taxpayer dollars and to everybody out there who really relies

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Speaker 1: upon a federal government program, you'd better damn well step

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Speaker 1: up to the plate and raise concerns about minding the store.

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Speaker 1: What are you going to do about fraud, waste and abuse?

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Speaker 1: What entity your organization is charged with monitoring this and

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Speaker 1: who's going to be held accountable to the extent that

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Speaker 1: this fraud, wasted abuse continues because it goes on and

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Speaker 1: on and on two programs I just talked about how

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Speaker 1: many programs are out there where this kind of activity

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Speaker 1: is going on. Go ahead, use your imagination. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: it's a lot bigger than what you come up with.

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Speaker 1: Six po nineteen. Right now, if you have KC the

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Speaker 1: the talk station six twenty four, lets go straight to

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Speaker 1: the bones. Good friend of the show and personal friend

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Speaker 1: of mine, Cribbage, Mike, welcome back, my submarine or friend.

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Speaker 1: Thank you again for you and Cindy in the gift

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Speaker 1: of the deck of cards with the submarines on them.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome.

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Speaker 9: We were so welcome Brian Thomas, and welcome back yourself

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Speaker 9: and as well as all those sailors out there standing

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Speaker 9: watch hundreds of feet beneath the Atlantic and Pacific Ocean.

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Speaker 9: I can almost guarantee you along with keeping the sea

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Speaker 9: lanes open for democracy, there is a Cribb James going

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Speaker 9: on right now as we're speaking.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there is. It's a perfect game for a submarine,

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Speaker 1: small compact. All you need is a deck of cards

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Speaker 1: and a small board.

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Speaker 4: Keep it moving.

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Speaker 9: I'm really getting mixed signals this morning, and hopefully maybe

871
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Speaker 9: you can clear it up, or maybe even Alicia Reese

872
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Speaker 9: could clear it up, and I really appreciate her coming

873
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Speaker 9: on your show as yes you because we're going to

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Speaker 9: reduce the prosecutor's office now due to a budget. Paul,

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Speaker 9: you mentioned that the city has a budget.

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Speaker 4: Deficit.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly, But right now the county is on the

878
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Speaker 9: hook for sixty five thousand dollars to the protesters from

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Speaker 9: twenty twenty. The city is on the hook and they've

880
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Speaker 9: agreed to it. Looks like they're going to vote.

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Speaker 4: On it today.

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00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 9: The law in Public Safty voted yesterday out for over

883
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Speaker 9: eight million dollars and the one council woman and Apoli

884
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Speaker 9: I believe her name is said that the government wronged

885
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Speaker 9: these people. Now I'm sorry, I believe there was a

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Speaker 9: curfew in place at a minimum. I don't know what

887
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Speaker 9: else all the rest of these people did. And maybe

888
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Speaker 9: Alisia Rees can put some meat on the bone here.

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Speaker 9: I just don't understand what's being reported. And Scottie Johnson

890
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Speaker 9: once again all I support the police, like, well, you

891
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Speaker 9: know what we need to get passes. It's been five years,

892
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Speaker 9: and he quoted the fact that we're actually getting off

893
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Speaker 9: light because the city of Denver paid out fourteen million. Well,

894
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Speaker 9: I don't know what happened in the city at Denver.

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Speaker 9: I don't live in a city, but I work in

896
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Speaker 9: the city and I don't want to see my tax

897
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Speaker 9: dollars go to pay for mis grants.

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Speaker 1: Well, I believe, and let me boil it down how

899
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Speaker 1: I perceive it, and I very well could be wrong

900
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Speaker 1: on this. The lawsuit claimed that was a violation of

901
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Speaker 1: the protesters First Amendment rights. You have a right to

902
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Speaker 1: free exercise, you have a right to of course, free assembly,

903
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: you have the right to speak. You don't have the

904
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Speaker 1: right to commit crimes. Now where there were criminal elements

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Speaker 1: among the folks that were out protesting in the aftermath

906
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Speaker 1: of the whole killing of Breonna Taylor and George Floyd,

907
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Speaker 1: where they all violating committing crimes. I think the argument

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Speaker 1: is no, and that is it arbitrary to impose a

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Speaker 1: curfew on every man, woman, in child, everywhere which prevents

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Speaker 1: you from the free exercise or from your right to

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Speaker 1: free assembly and right to free speech. So I believe

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Speaker 1: that is the predicate for the lawsuit. Now, individuals who

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Speaker 1: committed crime, I think were subject to prosecution, But was

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Speaker 1: the hundreds of people who were sort of mass arrested

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Speaker 1: for curfew violations, And they also claimed that their rights

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Speaker 1: were violated because they were held outdoors at the Hamilton

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Speaker 1: County Justice Center what they call this sally Port, which

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Speaker 1: is an outdoor, gated area with no rue. It was

919
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Speaker 1: supervised by deputy sort of a holding pen concept. So

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Speaker 1: that's the genesis of the lawsuit.

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Speaker 4: Now, I.

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Speaker 1: Crandly did put a curfew in place, but again they

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Speaker 1: claimed it was unconstitution which ultimately led to the unlawful

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Speaker 1: imprisonment of protesters. So can you impose a curfew on adults?

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Speaker 1: I thought you could, But is there a judicial process

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Speaker 1: or a legislative process. In other words, did it have

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Speaker 1: to go through the city council to be voted on

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Speaker 1: to be implemented. That is a gray area for me,

929
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Speaker 1: and I will admit ignorance on that area. But that's

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Speaker 1: the thing.

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Speaker 9: Definitely is more explanation than maybe I received, and if

932
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Speaker 9: it's been out there than I apologized.

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Speaker 1: But no, don't apologize because again I admit it. It's

934
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Speaker 1: a gray area for me. But they settled it rather

935
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Speaker 1: than go to court and defend it, So maybe there

936
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Speaker 1: was something to the lawsuit. But you're right, the county

937
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Speaker 1: has on the hook for sixty five thousand, even though

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Speaker 1: it was the county facilities that these folks were held in,

939
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Speaker 1: and the city taxpayers now facing a thirty two million

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Speaker 1: dollar budget shortfall for the upcoming calendar year. Eyesable chunk

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Speaker 1: of that wrapped up in eight point one million dollars. Mike, absolutely, sir, Yep,

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Speaker 1: it's okay. They apparently have some bond deal they're going

943
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Speaker 1: to fund the settlement with. Not really clear on that

944
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Speaker 1: one either, Mike. God bless you, sir, and thanks again

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Speaker 1: for the cards. Man really tickled me to come into

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Speaker 1: work today and find those appreciate your friendship six twenty

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Speaker 1: eight right now fifty five kr c toit. The talk

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Speaker 1: stations Local stories coming up. Your phone calls are always

949
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Speaker 1: welcome here in the morning. Six pot thirty three, fifty

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Speaker 1: five krs. The talk station Maryan Thomas right, inviting phone

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Speaker 1: looking forward to Lesha restoring the program. Having kindy commissioner

954
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Speaker 1: dealing with budget issues and seems to be in favor

955
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Speaker 1: of maintaining or at least allowing Himlon County Prosecutor Connie

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Speaker 1: Pilach's office to get as much money or maybe even

957
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Speaker 1: more money. The rest of them not so much. Looking

958
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Speaker 1: at a ten percent cut, Connie Pillach worried about that.

959
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Speaker 1: She says we're facing potential cuts to staff staff. Notably

960
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Speaker 1: ten percent cuts is what she says is going to

961
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Speaker 1: be needed. That's eighteen positions elimit into the Prosecutor's office

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Speaker 1: under the current budget proposal. Alisia Reese even noted it

963
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Speaker 1: was the first time she's ever seen a Hamilton County

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Speaker 1: prosecutor come in for a budget presentation. Commissioner Dumas said

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Speaker 1: she's concerned with maintaining the prosecutor's staff and is well

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Speaker 1: expanding when the county is able to expanding it when

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Speaker 1: the county is able to, in other words, able to

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Speaker 1: if they have the money. Lisa resaid she wanted to

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Speaker 1: consider the county's priorities after agreeing to contribute three hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars for paid Course Stadium's lease with

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Speaker 1: the Bengals. And I know we have a contractual obligation

972
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Speaker 1: to do that, but you know what, where are the priorities?

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Speaker 1: We don't get our tax relief as a consequence of

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Speaker 1: that infusion of cash. No, no, no, no, And now

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have the prosecutor's office reduction of ten percent

976
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Speaker 1: when County pilotics or when yeah, Hamilton County Prosecutor Pilot

977
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Speaker 1: has explained that the number of cases and the number

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Speaker 1: of grand jury indictments has increased, a Lisa Ree said,

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Speaker 1: if you could stand for the Bengals and get a

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Speaker 1: deal done, I would hope we could stand with the

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Speaker 1: Prosecutor's office and get a deal done. Amen. Alicia, looking

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Speaker 1: forward to having on the program at the end of

983
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Speaker 1: the eight o'clock hour, and note which is a head

984
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Speaker 1: scratcher for me. Hamilton County Prosecutor's Office continues to well

985
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Speaker 1: prosecute Alex Trevinski, who's been charging that late July beatdown,

986
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Speaker 1: the man who was the victim of the beatdown, who

987
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Speaker 1: apparently was only charged because he happened to be the

988
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Speaker 1: only white guy involved in the brawl. Holly wasn't involved.

989
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: She was a victim, just tending to someone with injuries

990
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: when she got cole cocked in the face without asking

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Speaker 1: for it. Alex Ttravinsky, different case. His lawyers just asked

992
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Speaker 1: for continuance. Apparently he's being currently tried. Apparently the prosecutor's

993
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: office brought forth a surprise witness, and they need time

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Speaker 1: to look into the surprise witness. Of course, Dravinsky claims

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Speaker 1: he acted in self defense during the entire confrontation. That

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Speaker 1: seems to be what everyone else, at least around the

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Speaker 1: time of the bra agreed was going on. We got

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Speaker 1: Zenzer yesterday and apparently Drew Pappus spoke. He didn't speak

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Speaker 1: car see dot com. Steve, thanks for calling. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the program, good man.

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Speaker 10: I don't know all the technicalities of all this stuff

1013
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 10: with the reef, that the money that they're finding in

1014
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 10: the state of Ohio that they're going to give the

1015
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:04,919
Speaker 10: Cleveland Brown and fund them a new football field, economy shit,

1016
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 10: and everybody out here sad.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, Joe,

1018
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: you got the dump button form of their brother.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: Remember, I enjoy hearing what people have to say, but

1021
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Speaker 1: you have to remember that I have an obligation to

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Speaker 1: the FCC. I cannot allow profanities to be used on

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Speaker 1: the morning show. That's where we have like a nine

1024
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Speaker 1: minute delay. I'm exaggerating slightly, but I can't let him

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Speaker 1: finish what I thought was going to be a very

1026
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Speaker 1: coherent point because he dropped an FCC non compliant word.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not angry with you. I understand how it is,

1028
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Speaker 1: and trust me, I find a struggle from time to

1029
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Speaker 1: time dealing with FCC compliance myself. If you know me

1030
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Speaker 1: in my off hours, you know that I don't follow

1031
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Speaker 1: FCC compliance rules of my day to day life. But

1032
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: we got to abide. We have to abide. But if

1033
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Speaker 1: you want to din where the money's coming from, it

1034
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Speaker 1: is the unclaimed fun That's where the funds coming from.

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Speaker 1: To give the Cleveland Browns six hundred million dollars, which

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Speaker 1: I find offensive as a proposition, regardless whether the money

1037
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Speaker 1: is there or not. And this is the subject of litigation.

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Speaker 1: The legal challenge to use those unclaimed funds to pay

1039
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Speaker 1: for the Cleveland brown Stadium apparently hit a roadbock. Federal

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Speaker 1: judge's side of the money can start transferring beginning January first.

1041
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: They were seeking an injunction that people looking to stop

1042
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Speaker 1: this was four people with unclaimed funds sue the state

1043
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Speaker 1: to prevent it from moving between Now they had to

1044
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: move the money. It was one point seven to one

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00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: point nine billion dollars. They've created a new fund and

1046
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Speaker 1: from that fund, Ohio would dole out the money for

1047
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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Brown Dome Stadium project. Now, overall, the state

1048
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: holds more than four billion dollars in dormant bank accounts,

1049
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: uncash checks, utility deposits. I don't know if it includes

1050
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Speaker 1: unclaimed lottery tickets he didn't cash in. Regardless, there's the

1051
00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: money right there. Now, you can submit the paperwork, could

1052
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Speaker 1: claim for the unclaimed funds. Hey, that's my bank account.

1053
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: There's a process for that, and if you don't do

1054
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Speaker 1: that within ten years, that money gets deposited into well,

1055
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: the unclaimed funds account from which they have allocated money

1056
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Speaker 1: for the Cleveland brown Stadium. Now, the reason this is

1057
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: allowed to go forward, you have to get an injunction

1058
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Speaker 1: to make this stop. There has to be what they

1059
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Speaker 1: call irreparable harm. Your likelihood to win on the case,

1060
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Speaker 1: success on the merits is assured. You know, the judge knows,

1061
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Speaker 1: can look at the law ahead of time and can

1062
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Speaker 1: conclude pretty reasonably that you're gonna win. But in order

1063
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Speaker 1: for the for an injunction to be issued, there has

1064
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Speaker 1: to be irreparable harm. If the judge does not put

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Speaker 1: an injunction in place when money is involved, there's no

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Speaker 1: irreparable harm. Money can always be found, so you're only

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Speaker 1: harm to the extent your money disappeared. But because the

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Speaker 1: state still has money, there's an opportunity for you to

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Speaker 1: get it back. Now the lawsuit is going to move forward,

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Speaker 1: so they're gonna let the lawsuit go forward. This may

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Speaker 1: ultimately be blocked, who knows, But as of right now,

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Speaker 1: that's where the money's coming from. But that doesn't make

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Speaker 1: the whole question of whether or not that money should

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Speaker 1: be used for a damned stadium. That question still exists

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Speaker 1: as a matter of morals and ethics and priorities. And I,

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Speaker 1: for one, don't believe the private sports team should get

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Speaker 1: any slice of any dollars, regardless if it's because you

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00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: let a bank account closed and forgot to get the

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Speaker 1: money out of it, or because it's coming out of

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Speaker 1: the taxpayer funded dollars. Why would the money go there?

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Speaker 1: Does anybody else have something on their list they want

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Speaker 1: from government done before we give money to the Cleveland Browns?

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Speaker 1: Anybody I do, Steve hold On to take your call

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Speaker 1: right out of the gate. It is six forty five

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Speaker 1: right now, fifty five care sea. It is six forty

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Speaker 1: nine right now fifty five care seed. The talk station

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Speaker 1: gonna go over to the phones. Five one, three, seven,

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Speaker 1: four nine fifty five eight hundred eight two three thalk.

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Speaker 1: We got our rules established upfront, right, don't drop any

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Speaker 1: curse words on the morning show, Steve, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for calling this morning.

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Speaker 3: Good morning. I have been non compliant before, and you

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01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,479
Speaker 3: have justifiably cut me off before. Come to worry about

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Speaker 3: mister Tom. But I was wondering, why aren't they using

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Speaker 3: that money on the bridge across the river number one?

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Speaker 3: And what about possibles? And why are they just giving

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Speaker 3: it to people that are already rich going through sports events?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, basically think them feel more comfortable.

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Speaker 1: Just scratching the surface, Steve, you know, just scratching the service.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure every single one of us in the listening

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Speaker 1: audience could come up with something that we would prefer

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Speaker 1: that money going to that doesn't go to support an independent,

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Speaker 1: very profitable sports organization which makes millions and millions of

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Speaker 1: dollars for their owners.

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Speaker 3: One thing I noticed, so I jump between you and

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Speaker 3: talk great for us what we call it PBS and PBS, MPR,

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01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 3: and just to hear the actual details of story is

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Speaker 3: in between. It's funny to listen to when you break

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01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 3: away and they go to the station's news how they

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01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 3: don't always include the full topics or just a slant,

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Speaker 3: even though it's talk radio.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of funny.

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Speaker 3: But uh, yeah, the money could be used a lot

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Speaker 3: of ways. With the billions of billions keep coming in

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Speaker 3: with a Dumbo care and this and that.

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Speaker 6: It's just what do we have to do to wake

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Speaker 6: people up?

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Speaker 3: They're so polarized with their gods of whoever that they

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01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 3: can't realize the money being stolen out of pockets and

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Speaker 3: they'll die on that hill just to just then. I

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Speaker 3: don't know now that the depsty files, they just had

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Speaker 3: the Florida release and nobody's talking about them.

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Speaker 1: I know that kind of felt by the wayside.

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Speaker 5: Did it?

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Speaker 1: See if Collas wondered where that went. Maybe it's just

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Speaker 1: a shiny object that we were all chasing after as

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01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: a distraction to keep us away from. Oh, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: maybe another government program that's billions and billions of dollars

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Speaker 1: in fraud has been revealed.

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Speaker 3: I always say when when big news is starting to

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Speaker 3: break that is against the propaganda machine. Something else happened.

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Speaker 3: I call it the rodeo clowns. Look over here, look

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Speaker 3: over here when they ask the stories over here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, do you remember with the guy that guy.

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Speaker 3: In the Bengals game that had the episode on the field.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember what happened the same day when the

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Speaker 3: CAA came out that same day and said they had

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Speaker 3: a ham in the killing of Kennedy, but they distracted

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01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 3: it with football. I'm pretty sure to go in the

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Speaker 3: way back to scene and start researching this stuff, anything

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Speaker 3: that is attracting to the people for something else going on.

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Speaker 1: Well, Kennedy assassination. People like quite often asked where were

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01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: you when Kennedy was assassinated? I was merely if that

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01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: a gleam in my dad's eyes, So that preceded me

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01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: by it for years. So I can't account for that one,

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Speaker 1: and I don't recall specifically what the distractions were. But

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Speaker 1: I don't know how successful you can be distracting people's

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01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: attention away from the presidential assassination. However, you know as

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01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: well as I know, that there are a lot of

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01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: distractions that we go down the road in order to

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Speaker 1: keep us from talking about more fundamentally important things, and

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01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 1: we clearly have a lot more important things in front

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Speaker 1: of us. So I appreciate the call truly, and I

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Speaker 1: just wanted to throw this out there really quickly. It's

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01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: been in the back of my mind, you know, the

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01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 1: libertarian guy in me really, you know, doesn't like regulations

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Speaker 1: and restrictions too much, and I understand the reason for them.

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Speaker 1: But I having a moment of clarity about children online generally,

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Speaker 1: and the more stories I see about sextortion and children

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Speaker 1: killing themselves, because there are nefarious people out there that

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Speaker 1: I would love to violate the FCC in describing them

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Speaker 1: trying to do harm to our children as if it's

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Speaker 1: a sport getting our children to harm themselves, or just

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Speaker 1: flat out extorting money. I'd read this most recent story

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Speaker 1: that this kid killed himself after being extorted. They created

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Speaker 1: a fake persona. They created a seventeen year old girl.

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Speaker 1: This was a teenager in high school. They acted like

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Speaker 1: a seventeen year old girl. They followed what he did.

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Speaker 1: They knew from social media, which Jimmy worked out his

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Speaker 1: friends and this person, this fictitious person name dropped them

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Speaker 1: in order to establish confidence and established trust. That trust

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Speaker 1: was established, and of course, at one time, the so

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Speaker 1: called seventeen year old girl who was not asked for

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Speaker 1: an explicit photo, and apparently this young man provided that

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Speaker 1: and then extorted them, demanding five hundred dollars. The kid

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Speaker 1: did not have five hundred. He offered the soul thirty

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Speaker 1: dollars he had in his bank account. They wouldn't take it.

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Speaker 1: He took his own life. And with that background just

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Speaker 1: one of the multitude of those type of stories. Australia

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Speaker 1: now has cracked down no social media for children under

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Speaker 1: the age of sixteen. That means no TikTok, Instagram, YouTube,

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Speaker 1: kick Twitch read it, no more access to those now

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Speaker 1: how I don't how they're going to accomplish this, that's

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Speaker 1: a Dave Hatter question. But let's assume they can accomplish it.

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Speaker 1: The vast majority when polled, the vast majority of folks

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Speaker 1: want children to not be able to have access to this.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: The reason I'm kind of thinking about embracing this concept.

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Speaker 1: Parents clearly are incapable of saying no to their children.

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Speaker 1: That's one thing. The power already exists, and that's kind

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Speaker 1: of where my default position is. If you have the

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Speaker 1: ability to stop it, then you should. But we have

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01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: rules about alcohol. For example, you can't buy alcohol if're

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Speaker 1: under the age of twenty one, and there's a multitude

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Speaker 1: of laws like that. Driving you got to be at

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Speaker 1: least fifteen sixteen years old fifteen and a half sixteen

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Speaker 1: years old to get driver's license. Those are state created laws.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason for them, because it presents a danger.

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Speaker 1: Young people should not drink alcohol. It's demonstrably bad for

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Speaker 1: even adults. Look at all the studies out there showing

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Speaker 1: how bad it is for you. And of course impaired

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Speaker 1: children don't develop their cognitive functions. Are impaired kids aren't

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Speaker 1: allowed to smoke weed either, although we know they do.

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Speaker 1: They get it. But social media has proven to be

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Speaker 1: so monstrably bad for children, psychologically devastating in many cases,

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01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 1: it's a drug in and of itself. That the fact

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Speaker 1: that there is social media addiction. At least adults should

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Speaker 1: be in a position to make an informed choice because

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Speaker 1: they have the well hopefully building blocks of life to

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Speaker 1: allow them to be aware of the dangers of social

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Speaker 1: media and the responsibilities of an adult. Hopefully you have

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01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: a job and you can't spend all day on TikTok.

1213
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: But when it is so bad for our children, should

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01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 1: we allow them to have it? I think it's a

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Speaker 1: legitimate topic of conversation six fifty six right now. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's what Jack Avidan wants to talk about.

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Speaker 1: The Big Picture with Jack Avanan after the top of

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Speaker 1: the air news Love and Terror, followed by Laurence Stewart,

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Speaker 1: who's summoned in for Donald and Neil from Americans for

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Speaker 1: Prosperity on something I talked about earlier this morning, the

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Speaker 1: Obamacare subsidies. Stick around for that, be right back. Today's

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Speaker 1: top headlines seven oh six A fifty five kr CE

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Speaker 1: detalk station. Happy Wednesday. It's a great day to be

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Speaker 1: tuned into fifty five cassee Morning Shore at the right time.

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Speaker 1: It is time everyone's here at this moment. Big Picture

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Speaker 1: with Jack Avidan, Dak Avidan. It is great for you

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Speaker 1: to be on the program from my perspective, but and

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Speaker 1: my listeners really enjoy your thoughts, comments and insight and intellect.

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Speaker 1: And I have no idea what you're going to be

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Speaker 1: talking about today, which is typically the case, but Love

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Speaker 1: and Terror, welcome back, Jack, appreciate you coming on the show.

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Speaker 8: I have no idea either. But happy holidays, my friend,

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Speaker 8: right that guys, you actually, let's talk about this. Christians

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Speaker 8: will soon celebrate Christmas, the birth of Jesus. Jews are

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01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 8: about to break out menorah's and dradles to celebrate Hanukkah,

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Speaker 8: the rededication of the Temple in Jerusalem, and soon Muslims

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01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 8: will be marking the miraculous nighttime journey of the prophet

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01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 8: Mohammed from Mecca to Jerusalem and then up to Heaven

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01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 8: where he met Adam, Moses, and Jesus. So who couldn't

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01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 8: be filled with love this time of year? Here?

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Speaker 1: Let me look around me, Jack, at the multitude of

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Speaker 1: articles that I see where people clearly are not in

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Speaker 1: a festive holiday, love filled state of emotions.

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Speaker 8: I know I've heard some of your SCC non compliance.

1245
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:23,839
Speaker 1: I know, I know we all slipped.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, sadly, quite a few people who profess love

1247
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 8: preach hate, even terror in their quest to regain power,

1248
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 8: like many in your great audience. I'm a child of

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01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 8: the sixties, when hippies flashed peace signs. Actually, in places

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Speaker 8: like hate Ashbury, they flashed a lot more than that.

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Speaker 8: They flashed everything. The peace signs and peaceful sittings and

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01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 8: songs like All You Need Is Love, stopped the Vietnam War,

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Speaker 8: They forced Lyndon Johnson out of the White House, supported

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Speaker 8: our new civil rights laws as well as women's and

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Speaker 8: gay rights move and perhaps most fun for teenagers like me,

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01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 8: the sexties gave us the sexual Revolution, but lurking within

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01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 8: the free Love, free pot communes from Berkeley to Woodstock

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Speaker 8: with something a lot more sinister, authoritarian, big government socialism.

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01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 8: While everyone was singing Beatles tunes, a lot of kids

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Speaker 8: like Hillary Clinton and a little later Barack Obama, were

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01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 8: studying Herbert marcusa I don't know how many people remember him,

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01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 8: but he was a disciple of Karl Marx. And they

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01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 8: also studied Saul Alinsky, a disciple of Machiavelli, with his

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01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 8: ruthless devotion to ends justifying the means. When it comes

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Speaker 8: to securing power, The all You Need is Love. Hippie

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Speaker 8: revolution brought us Ivy League credentialed I don't say educated,

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01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 8: just credentialed elite to talitarians now attacking the foundation of America,

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01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 8: limited decentralized government and Adam Smith capitalism based on free choice,

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Speaker 8: not mandates, free enterprise, and free but fair markets. It's

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Speaker 8: that's where tariffs come in. We'll talk about that some

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Speaker 8: other time. We've seen this before, free love and the

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01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 8: demand for free stuff giving way to dictatorship. Ancient Rome

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01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 8: had what we'd now call proletarian rebellions. They led to

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Speaker 8: military strong men and then emperors. The French Revolution started

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01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 8: out with ordinary people demanding from aristocrats a place a

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01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 8: seat in the National Assembly. The revolutionaries were called leftists

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01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,520
Speaker 8: because they took seats on the left side of the Assembly,

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Speaker 8: and they addressed each other as citizen, which is ironic

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Speaker 8: Brian since the last thing today's American leftists want to

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Speaker 8: call their supporters is citizen. Today's leftists support nonsense citizens

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01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 8: who broke our laws getting here. They demand welfare and

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Speaker 8: even voting rights. In at least fourteen jurisdictions and counting.

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Speaker 8: They demand welfare and even voting rights. And the highest

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Speaker 8: title for today's leftists is not citizen. It's victim, as

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Speaker 8: in I'm a victim of racism, sexism, transphobia, and common sense.

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Speaker 8: The French revolutionaries tried to replace Christianity with what they

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Speaker 8: called a goddess of reason that was an actual person.

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Speaker 8: They found a beautiful woman, and she became the goddess

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Speaker 8: of reason. Then they replaced reason with the reign of terror.

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Speaker 8: Following the Romans, the French next made Napoleon Bonaparte their emperor.

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Speaker 8: His invasions cost Europe at least four million lives, but

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Speaker 8: Napoleon was a peace nick compared with Joseph Stalin. His

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Speaker 8: Soviet workers Paradise killed at least seven million people, some

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Speaker 8: say triple that number. As with Napoleon, Stalin did not

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Speaker 8: immediately seize power when Russia rose up against the Czar.

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Speaker 8: The Russian Revolution's first leader was a guy named Alexander Kerensky.

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Speaker 8: If you don't remember him, folks, it's because Kerensky's Russian

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Speaker 8: Republic lasted just three months. Communist revolutionaries then chased Kerensky

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Speaker 8: to Paris, then New York, and ultimately to our west coast.

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Speaker 8: The conservative Hoover Institution, which promotes liberty through limited government.

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Speaker 8: Kerensky's successor of Vladimir Lenin, did not promote limited government,

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Speaker 8: and Lenin's successor, Joseph Stalin, did not promote any limits

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Speaker 8: at all on his own power. Now, Brian, there may

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Speaker 8: be a few people listening who are now yelling, what

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Speaker 8: about Donald Trump, does he promote, does he tolerate, and

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Speaker 8: he limits to his own power? The answer is yes.

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Speaker 8: Put aside for the moment, Trump's bombing of state sponsored

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Speaker 8: narco terrorist drug boats were all eager to hear in

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Speaker 8: a few minutes from Congressman Thomas Massey and Judge Neapolitano

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Speaker 8: about that, I would only note for now that whether

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Speaker 8: it's Thomas Jefferson and the Barbary pirates, Reagan invading Grenada,

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Speaker 8: or Trump destroying Iran's nuclear program, We've had lots of

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Speaker 8: debates about when and how Congress ought to weigh in,

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Speaker 8: But Democrats did not complain when Barack Obama's drones killed

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Speaker 8: hundreds of foreigners without authorization, including women and children at weddings,

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Speaker 8: even American citizens. Let's also consider a different but typical

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Speaker 8: outrage from Joe Biden. The Auto pen completely ignored the

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Speaker 8: Supreme Court's ruling against the quote forgiveness of taxpayer funded

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Speaker 8: student loans, and Democrats defended him to the hilt. By contrast,

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Speaker 8: Donald Trump has submitted to courts everywhere from fat Alvin

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Speaker 8: Braggs New York and Fawnie Willis's Atlanta straight to the

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Speaker 8: US Supreme Court It's true Donald Trump does not preach

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Speaker 8: peace and love for the tens of millions of illegal

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Speaker 8: migrants that Joe Biden and his borders are Kamala Harris

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Speaker 8: invited to invade the United States. But again, Trump is

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Speaker 8: submitting his deportation plans to the courts, where he wins

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Speaker 8: some and he loses some. Meantime, Trump has achieved peace

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Speaker 8: through strength, as Ronald Reagan did peace from Africa to Cambodia,

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Speaker 8: if we can keep it. Now he's trying to broke

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Speaker 8: her peace in Ukraine, which never would have been invaded

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Speaker 8: by Putin had Trump remained president in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 8: Trump is the real peace president, most important because he

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Speaker 8: persuades nations to trade peacefully and fairly with the promise

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Speaker 8: of e economic growth. That's why Israel's Arab neighbors are

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Speaker 8: now willing to live peaceably.

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Speaker 1: Growth.

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Speaker 8: The promise of growth for all is Trump's gift to

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Speaker 8: the world this holiday season, and God willing, even Trump's

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Speaker 8: enemies will realize that constitutional republics, not socialistic tactorships, are

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Speaker 8: the world's true blessing. What do you say, Paul Well?

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Speaker 1: First off, I must note that free love at least

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Speaker 1: didn't involve the American taxpayer dollars. Second, I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I don't know. Well, parents and taxpayers they paid taxes

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Speaker 8: to they supported those kids, and some of them still

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Speaker 8: support those kids.

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Speaker 1: Now I understand that component of it. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 1: at least didn't cost us money to engage in free love, unless,

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Speaker 1: of course, you look to the medical ramifications of free

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Speaker 1: love and the fact that the American taxpayer dollars might

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Speaker 1: have to end up paying for that, which in and

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Speaker 1: of itself is a problem. But going back to my

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Speaker 1: original thought along those lines, you mentioned the various religions

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Speaker 1: with people are celebrating this time of year. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: we all tend to embrace, at least from religious perspective,

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Speaker 1: regardless of which religion you are, this idea that we

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Speaker 1: need to engage in compassion and to help our brother

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Speaker 1: man those are truly in need. But what bothers me,

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Speaker 1: over and over and over again, the Marxists, the Leftists,

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Speaker 1: the communists, the socialists all endeavor to use our respective

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Speaker 1: faiths against us. Well, this is the Christian Judeo Christian ethic.

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Speaker 1: You're supposed to help people in an effort to support

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Speaker 1: some bloated government plan that we all find out is

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Speaker 1: replete with fraud, waste, and abuse, which they don't seem

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Speaker 1: to care about. That's the part that always angers me.

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Speaker 1: And I've been on record many times saying if you're

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Speaker 1: in a church or a synagogue or a mosque and

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Speaker 1: someone in front of the room is saying you need

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Speaker 1: to support some big blow to government program because Jesus

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Speaker 1: or Mohammad or I don't know, it doesn't matter what

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Speaker 1: would do that. That is your religious obligation. It belongs

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Speaker 1: to the individual, not the state, and you're offloading the

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Speaker 1: personal responsibility you have as a member of that particular

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Speaker 1: religion to do it yourself. It doesn't substitute your personal obligation.

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Speaker 1: And yet that feeling of the need to help is

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Speaker 1: used so often against people of faith to promote some

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Speaker 1: bloated government program that really doesn't accomplish the goal of

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Speaker 1: helping people who are truly in need.

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Speaker 8: Well, we discussed this last week. Jesus was not about governments, right,

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Speaker 8: and we began today talking about these major religions, not

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Speaker 8: all of them in the world. They all began in love,

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Speaker 8: but at some points in their history they had followers

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Speaker 8: embracing terror. God loved his chosen people of Israel, but

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Speaker 8: those sanctioned people asked for a king. They said, we

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Speaker 8: want a king, like all the other nations. And inevitably,

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Speaker 8: as with all other nations, kings proved to be power

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Speaker 8: hungry and cruel. Just think of David and Bathsheba and

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Speaker 8: Bathsheba's wrong husband Uriah. Jesus loved all people and refused

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Speaker 8: Satan's offer to rule over them on earth. He did

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Speaker 8: not want to be a king, But many other rulers,

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Speaker 8: secular and ecclesiastics, all have imposed tyranny in the name

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Speaker 8: of Jesus. You're right, and we've discussed several months ago

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Speaker 8: now whether Islam requires violent jihad the sort that al

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Speaker 8: Qaeda demanded. Listeners can hear that discussion about history. It

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Speaker 8: went all the way back to the prophet Mohammad.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: By scrolling down my podcast page, just search for the

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Speaker 8: Big Picture with Jack Atherton, it's there all thanks to

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Speaker 8: you and Joe, and I thank you both for that.

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Speaker 4: Every day.

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Speaker 1: It's a public service getting your message out. Jack Avident,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you Strekker is producing your podcast, and I'm

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Speaker 1: glad you're doing it and I'm glad you show up

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Speaker 1: in the morning should have these important conversations. At minimum,

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Speaker 1: it gets the juices stirring intellectually. It causes people to

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Speaker 1: stop and pause and think, hmm, maybe I should consider

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Speaker 1: that in deciding whether or not we need to embrace

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Speaker 1: some fat government program or more simplistic enough, whether we

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Speaker 1: need to put ourside our differences in this very festive

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Speaker 1: time of year, which should be festive for many many

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Speaker 1: people of all religions. For those who do not describe

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Speaker 1: to a particular religion, hey, joining the fun. We're all

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Speaker 1: trying to be in a better mood this time of year.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you put down your anger and enjoy the

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Speaker 1: time of year along with the rest of us. We're

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Speaker 1: all open for the collective celebration of well perhaps love. Amen, Amen,

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Speaker 1: Jack Adenan God bless you sir. Looking forward to another

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Speaker 1: calendar year with you next year. Not that we're over

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Speaker 1: for this year, but thanks again for your time, your

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Speaker 1: efforts and your energy doing your podcast and this particular

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Speaker 1: segment on the Morning Show, And as always, best of

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Speaker 1: health and much love to you and.

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Speaker 8: Amesley and to you and everybody listening.

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Speaker 4: There you go.

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Speaker 1: I agree, Thanks Jack seven nineteen fifty five KRC the

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Speaker 1: Talk Station. Fac ARC the Talk Station. I have a

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Speaker 1: very happy Friday year Friday. Wow, where's my brain? I

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Speaker 1: still don't know what day it is, having been off

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Speaker 1: of the last couple of days. Thanks agin to Gary,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Walker and Dan Carroll for covering for me while

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Speaker 1: I use up my vacation days. Got some more to

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Speaker 1: use up every year Christmas time I take off after

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Speaker 1: the twenty third of you off through the rest of

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Speaker 1: the year. Would that provides me a great opportunity to

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Speaker 1: remind me we always do his Christmas show here in

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Speaker 1: the fifty five Casee Morning Show. And in spite of

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Speaker 1: the fact that Vince GARLDI Trio is the only sanctioned

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Speaker 1: Christmas music we do get to hear Rob Rider. He

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Speaker 1: brings his guitar in the studio every year. He's been

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Speaker 1: doing it going back to my dad in the fifty

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Speaker 1: five Carsee Morning Show. And he'll be back. Rob Rider,

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Speaker 1: thank you in advance for well keeping the tradition alive

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Speaker 1: here at fifty five Carosee the Talk Station. So the

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Speaker 1: Christmas Special Holiday special if you want to call it,

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Speaker 1: that's okay with me as long as you're in as

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Speaker 1: long as you're in a celebratory mood, as pointed out

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Speaker 1: by Jack, other than that'll be the twenty third. So

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Speaker 1: Rob Rder looking forward to having you back on, looking

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Speaker 1: forward to having Americans for Prosperity on today. Not Donovan

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Speaker 1: and Eil, but Laurence Stewart. Should we sub it in

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Speaker 1: for Donald In the next segment, we're talking about something

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Speaker 1: that's ongoing, Obamacare's subsidies. Will the Republicans vote to extend

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Speaker 1: the subsidies? It's certainly a possibility. And I talked about

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Speaker 1: this last week, and the boiled down thing is much

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Speaker 1: like the Continuing Resolution where they kept funding at Democrat levels.

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Speaker 1: So the Democrats didn't have an argument going into the

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Speaker 1: shutdown about how the Republicans were going to cut this

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Speaker 1: and cut that. They had nothing to argue about. And

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Speaker 1: of course the shutdown ended with a promise that they

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Speaker 1: will be voting on the extension of these subsidies. Now

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Speaker 1: more Republicans are stepping up and seemingly embracing the idea

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Speaker 1: of extending them. Why, because we're going into twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 1: why would they capitulate on subsidies? Well, it gives the

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Speaker 1: Democrats an argument Oh my god. Millions of people are

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Speaker 1: going to lose their subsidies to be without health care.

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Speaker 1: The problem is Obamacare, and as I pointed out earlier,

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Speaker 1: so much fraud, wasted abuse is being revealed, as we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about here in a moment. Even more that we're

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Speaker 1: owed an obligation by ur elected officials, regardless of which

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Speaker 1: way you go, crack down on fraud, waste, and abuse.

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Speaker 1: Everyone benefits from that. There's billions and billions of dollars

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Speaker 1: in various programs that have been recently identified, just scratching

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Speaker 1: the surface of where the money is going. They don't care.

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Speaker 1: There's no follow up. We'll see what she has to say.

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Speaker 1: That will be Lauren Stewart from Americans for Prosperity coming

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Speaker 1: up next first Prestigion Wednesday. It's a time of the

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Speaker 1: week normally hearing from Donald O'Neil from Americans for Prosperity.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, Americans were prosperity filled with a

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Speaker 1: bunch of great people. It's not just Donald o'nil. Today,

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Speaker 1: Laurence Stewart joins the program from AFP, summon in for

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Speaker 1: Donalvan and Neil to talk about Obamacare subsidies all the

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Speaker 1: rage these days. As far as a topic, Laurence Stewart,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Morning Show. It's a real pleasure to

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Speaker 1: have you on.

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Speaker 4: It's a pleasure to be on.

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Speaker 11: I will do my best.

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Speaker 1: I've got big shoes to.

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Speaker 11: Follow with Donan.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you're gonna be fine. So listen. The Obamacare

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Speaker 1: fraud is just absolutely insane. I brought back up a

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Speaker 1: topic I talked about last week, this GAO report where

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Speaker 1: they tested the Obamacare subsidies and found out that no

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Speaker 1: one is minding the store. Now, I will acknowledge that

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Speaker 1: there's some paper obligations. You're supposed to provide your income level,

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Speaker 1: You're supposed to provide a proper Social Security number in

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01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:07,759
Speaker 1: order to get enrolled. YadA, YadA, YadA. No one's minding

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Speaker 1: the store behind the scene. So these so called protections

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Speaker 1: against fraud wasted abuse seem to exist on paper, But

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01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 1: if someone isn't following up, people get the word and

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Speaker 1: it ends up literally billions and billions of dollars. And

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Speaker 1: the figures you have from Americans for prosperity, the under

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01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 1: the recent expansions that costs the American taxpayers one hundred

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01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 1: and twenty five billion dollars a year. A lot of

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01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 1: it is fraud, wasted abuse. I think we're owed in

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01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 1: obligation to mind the store, and we boil it down

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Speaker 1: on the along those simplistic terms. But let's listen to that.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk the reasons. Why Why were there Why was

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01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 1: there a waiver on the income eligibility cap of sixty

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01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:54,719
Speaker 1: two to five? It was COVID, right, yes, yeah.

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Speaker 11: So that's the first thing to understand about what we

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01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 11: call the bid in COVID credits. Was this was a

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01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 11: temporary or supposedly right nothing. Ronald Reagan says nothing lasts

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01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:07,680
Speaker 11: as long as a temporary government program, and I think

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01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 11: we're seeing them sit that at play here. But these

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01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 11: are meant to be a temporary emergency provision during the

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01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 11: COVID pandemic. I don't think we can point to a

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01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 11: single COVID policy that was worthwhile. This is certainly example

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01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:26,520
Speaker 11: of that. To get more people in roles in Obamacare,

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01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 11: the method was, you know, provide support for people who

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01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 11: are maybe losing their jobs and need health insurance. But

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01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 11: to your point, no one was minding the store. I

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01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 11: ordered takeout last night and had to do two step

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01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 11: verification to get my pizza delivered to my front door.

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01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 11: Yet on the ACA there are thousands of invalid and

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01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 11: non existent Social Security numbers that are receiving subsidized health coverage.

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01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 11: And you might say, how are they receiving it if

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01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 11: they're not people including the fifty eight thousand social securities

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01:24:56,439 --> 01:25:00,639
Speaker 11: of deceased and rolies. Well, the assurance company are receiving

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01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 11: these subsidies and just banking them because they're not actually

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01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 11: providing any healthcare or coverage for these hypothetical people. Another

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01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 11: example that's still illustrated in this is one single social

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01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 11: Security number appeared on over one hundred and twenty policies

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01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 11: and another was used for over seventy one years of coverage.

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01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:22,599
Speaker 11: And you cannot make this stuff up.

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01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 1: No, you can't, and you know the lawyer on me

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01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 1: immediately says, wait a second. The insurance companies are accepting

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01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 1: this money but they're not using it in connection with

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01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:35,280
Speaker 1: someone's medical care, then maybe they're culpable in some legal sense.

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01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 1: Maybe they should be brought to justice for accepting money

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01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 1: and taking money when they knew full well that they

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01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 1: weren't doing anything with the money except pocketing it.

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01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 11: This is where government is too big right, and we

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01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 11: hear this a lot across issues, But if the government

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01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 11: is setting up a subsidy program, it's actually on them

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01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:56,879
Speaker 11: to fraud check and double check that people's Social Security

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01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 11: numbers are correct. I mean, I would love for insurance

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01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 11: to say, hey, we're making forty billion extra dollars a

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01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 11: year based on fraud or the twenty four million in

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01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 11: rollies that you guys are accounting for, only twelve million

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01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 11: actually used their health insurance last year. The other half

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01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 11: didn't have a single medical claim.

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01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:16,440
Speaker 12: Highly suspiciously.

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01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 11: But if the government's going to get this big and

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01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:22,560
Speaker 11: think their fingernails this far into healthcare, it is on

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01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 11: them to be responsible.

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Speaker 4: And keep it up.

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01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 11: But at the end of the day, we know that

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01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 11: government involvement in healthcare actually has driven up the cost

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01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:34,679
Speaker 11: for American patients and families tremendously. I mean, we're talking

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01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:39,440
Speaker 11: about premium increases over seventy five percent from Obamacare's implementation.

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01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 11: So ideally, if the government's going to do something, they're

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01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:45,639
Speaker 11: going to fraud check themselves because it's actually coming out

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01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 11: of their bank account the United States Treasury.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're in lies the rub and no one's

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01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 1: government seems to really care that there's fraud wasted abuse

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01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 1: because they can print money and they don't have a

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01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 1: fiduciary obligation the American taxpayer. There's a number of other

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01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 1: points we need to go over on this because there

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01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 1: is just insane amounts of holes and problems with this

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01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 1: Obamacare things. Let's pause. We will bring Lauren Stewart from

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01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 1: Americans for Prosperity doing an admirable job this morning station

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01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,680
Speaker 1: seven forty here if if you have kc DE talk station. No,

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01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 1: it's not Donald and Neil for Americans for Prosperity, it's

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01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:23,680
Speaker 1: Laurence Stewart. We're running through the multiple reasons to let

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01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:26,720
Speaker 1: Biden's COVID credits expire. Lauren, I must observe as I

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01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 1: have multiple many times, and my listeners maybe know what's coming.

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01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 1: As we went into the shutdown, the Republicans agree to

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01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:35,879
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four spending levels to deprive the Democrats

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01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 1: of an argument about cuts. Those evil Republicans are gonna

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01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 1: cut so it makes their argument about what they wanted,

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01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 1: you know, a little more plausible. No, we're keeping funding

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01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:46,679
Speaker 1: levels at the Biden ear You've got nothing to complain about.

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01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 1: You're the one that put the expiration of the subsidies

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01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:51,759
Speaker 1: in place end of December. We're gonna let that happen.

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01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 1: COVID's over. So lots of great reasons or arguments to

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01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 1: defeat what the Democrats wanted. But here we are again.

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01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 1: They're teeing up this subsidies again, and we got more

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01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 1: Republicans now thinking about, well, maybe go ahead and do that.

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01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 1: Let's continue the subsidies until we get past twenty twenty six,

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01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 1: because the Democrats going to be screaming and yelling about

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01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 1: the evil Republicans taking away medical insurance from millions of Americans.

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01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 1: They got that political argument staring in the face. So, Lauren,

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01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 1: what's the alternative? They can't even get the twelve Appropriations

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01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 1: bill passed by the deadline, which has been extended. How

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01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 1: are they going to get in a fix to this

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01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 1: massive problem before the subsidies expire, before a vote on

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01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,679
Speaker 1: the subsidies. I don't see that as even possible. Where

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01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:34,639
Speaker 1: are we, Lauren?

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01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 11: Number one, a way to lower costs for Americans on

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01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 11: the Affordable Care Act and outside of the Affordable Care

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01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 11: Act is to allow the Biden COVID credits to expire.

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01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:48,560
Speaker 13: These COVID credits.

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01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 11: Drive up inflationary healthcare costs for folks with in the ACA.

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01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:54,599
Speaker 11: Here's what we're talking about. For folks in the ACA,

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01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:58,879
Speaker 11: over a third of their medical claims are denied nineteen

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01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 11: thousand dollars and out of pocket costs. So we need

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01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 11: these Biden COVID credits to go a way just to

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01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:07,640
Speaker 11: bring down those numbers within the ACA. Furthermore, whatever the

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01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:10,760
Speaker 11: government subsidizes, the rest of us have to increase our

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01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 11: payment on to pay for our own health insurance and

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01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 11: then also for these subsidies. So Number one, what they

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01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 11: need to do. What is the most important fix Congress

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01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 11: can do right now regarding the Biden COVID credits is nothing.

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01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 12: They're set to expire.

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01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 11: Let them expire. Number two, there are real reforms and

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01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 11: other options out there that are led by conservatives. Now,

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01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,599
Speaker 11: do I think they get to the president's death by

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01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 11: the end of the year. I don't think so, but

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01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 11: that would be wonderful and I'm not rolling anything out

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01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 11: to Christmas season, so we'll see. But these conservative Republican

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01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 11: lead proposals emphasize on the real crux of the issue

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01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 11: here in healthcare, and that's lowering costs and increasing access.

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01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 11: So you see alternatives like the Casipy Craboats proposal, which

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01:29:56,640 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 11: focuses on funding patients not in turance companies, similar with

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01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 11: other proposals in the House of Representatives that expand tools

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01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 11: like health Saman's accounts. You're able to put away your

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01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:11,720
Speaker 11: own tax advantage dollars to use for qualified medical expenses.

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01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 11: Anything you pay for with the NHSA is already fifteen

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01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:17,640
Speaker 11: to seventeen percent cheaper right off the top because of

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01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:20,720
Speaker 11: the tax advantage. Let alone that in some instances it

1631
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:24,760
Speaker 11: is actually faster and more affordable to self pay for

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01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 11: various aspects in healthcare. So what's different about this healthcare

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01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 11: fight is than say the implementation of Obamacare or even

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01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 11: repail in our places, that there are a number of

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01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 11: other conservative lead solutions that do drive down cost, increase access,

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01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 11: and really work to empower patients, not the system and

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01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:45,599
Speaker 11: not the government in healthcare.

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01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 4: So what is ahead is.

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01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 11: Really looking at who stands for what on that leader

1640
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 11: soon tomorrow is going to put the Schumer three year

1641
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:58,599
Speaker 11: clean extension. Democrats are AOK with fifty eight thousand deceased

1642
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 11: and rollers getting care, twelve million enrollies not using their

1643
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 11: medical care all of the fraud, waste and abuse that

1644
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 11: comes with these Biden COVID credits leaders. Soon is going

1645
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:11,800
Speaker 11: to give Democrats the opportunity to vote in favor of

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01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 11: a three year clean extension. He's also going to put

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01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 11: a solution on the floor that is a really great

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01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 11: line in the sand and framework for conservative care that

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01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 11: Cassidy Crepo plan. Now it is brand new, a lot

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01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:28,439
Speaker 11: of senators that are going to want to offer their feedback,

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01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:31,720
Speaker 11: but we'll be able to see what side law make

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01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 11: your stand on in terms of you know, what are

1653
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 11: we for here? Are we for funding patients or are

1654
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 11: we for funding insurance and keeping up with the status

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01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:42,599
Speaker 11: quot that quite frankly, twenty twenty four are voters rejected

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01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 11: swiftly with the election of both Republican majorities and President Trump.

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01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 1: Well, I am painfully where there's a private medical insurance

1658
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 1: market out There's hundreds of medical insurance providers out there

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01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 1: that are not Obamacare. If we have the right to

1660
01:31:57,160 --> 01:31:59,680
Speaker 1: exercise our free choice when it comes to selecting policies.

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01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:01,960
Speaker 1: I do commercials for a guy who does that. He's

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01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 1: a broker. He works with hundreds of insurance companies. You

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01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:07,360
Speaker 1: go in he finds a package of policies that fit you,

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01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 1: you can afford it. You get dollar one coverage. It's

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01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 1: a lot less than Obamacare with a ten thousand, five

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01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 1: hundred dollars out of pocket liability. It's just that most

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01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 1: people aren't aware of the private market out there. They've

1668
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:18,760
Speaker 1: been sold this bill of goods that you either get

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01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 1: your employee sponsored program or you go on Obamacare. No,

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01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:24,560
Speaker 1: there's a lot of options in the world, and it

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01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:26,640
Speaker 1: seems to me a little bit of more education in

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01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:28,840
Speaker 1: marketing along those lines might go a long way to

1673
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:29,639
Speaker 1: save people money.

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01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:32,920
Speaker 3: Right now, you're absolutely right.

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01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 11: The innovations we have in healthcare and health insurance are

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01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 11: at an all time peak, and the folks who have

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01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:43,519
Speaker 11: access to those are beyond blessed and beyond statisfied that

1678
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:46,799
Speaker 11: they're out of the status quo vicious cycle of regular

1679
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 11: health insurance. The interesting component to that, and what we're

1680
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:52,800
Speaker 11: seeing in terms of the Biden COVID credits and the

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01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:55,560
Speaker 11: difference in how it affects various states, is that some

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01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 11: states actually outlawed those additional options. Some states, especially Blue State,

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01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 11: have worked very hard to consolidate their health insurance market

1684
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 11: so that people actually don't have access to that. So,

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01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:09,160
Speaker 11: for instance my home state of Massachusetts, sure you can

1686
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:12,439
Speaker 11: have an HSA, but you cannot use an HSA for

1687
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:16,320
Speaker 11: anything that your insurance would cover. So literally, you have

1688
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:19,680
Speaker 11: bluestates telling people what they can and cannot use their

1689
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:22,679
Speaker 11: own hard earned dollars noo of healthcare.

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01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I mean, just look, listeners, just process that.

1691
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:31,479
Speaker 1: It's your money placed in your own health savings account,

1692
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 1: and they're telling you what you can and can't spend

1693
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:35,880
Speaker 1: it on. If that money wasn't a health savings account,

1694
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:37,519
Speaker 1: you can spend your money any damn way you want.

1695
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:41,799
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's an HSA, so you can't. I'm sorry.

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01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:47,000
Speaker 1: That's just wrong. And the reason is they want you

1697
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:49,040
Speaker 1: to have to default to Obamacare. I mean, I know

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01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:52,800
Speaker 1: in the AFP Americans for Prosperity notes, millions abandoned their

1699
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:55,679
Speaker 1: existing coverage in order to go for this quote unquote

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01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:59,479
Speaker 1: free option because the subsidies made it appeared free. But

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01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:02,560
Speaker 1: that mere encourage dependency on the government program, which is

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01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:06,439
Speaker 1: exactly what the Democrats want. This is the stepping block

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01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 1: or stepping stone to Medicaid for all Obamacare is, and

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01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:11,680
Speaker 1: that's the direction they want to go. They want to

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01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:13,960
Speaker 1: deprive you of all the other options that exist.

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Speaker 11: Right now, that's one hundred percent right. The reason they

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Speaker 11: want to deprive you of all of even having access

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Speaker 11: to those options is because they're better, right, And given opportunity,

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Speaker 11: you're not going to choose Obamacare. You're going to choose

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Speaker 11: something or you don't.

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Speaker 13: Maybe maybe you are.

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Speaker 11: At AFP, We're we're not advocating for a repeal and

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Speaker 11: replace Obamacare. We're advocating for strong, swift reforms. But we

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Speaker 11: believe all Americans to have a personal option when it

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Speaker 11: comes to their healthcare. Healthcare happens to be I think

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Speaker 11: the most personal thing I think about with my family,

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Speaker 11: especially as a new mom, I kind of run the

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Speaker 11: traps on our health care and I want to make

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Speaker 11: sure that myself, my husband, my son, and my dog,

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Speaker 11: although a little bit separate, there have all of the

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Speaker 11: access and options that that we would like. So maybe

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Speaker 11: for a family, maybe my neighbors across the street are like,

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Speaker 11: I really like my Obamacare plan. I haven't met anyone

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Speaker 11: who's said that just stick caveat there, But we want

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Speaker 11: you to be able to use the health insurance to

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Speaker 11: drive the healthcare that that fits the needs of you

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Speaker 11: and your family. No one single family has the family

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Speaker 11: exact needs as another one, So crowding out all of

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Speaker 11: these options that really speak to that in different combinations

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Speaker 11: of options is, like you said, a move to centralized

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Speaker 11: and socialized healthcare single payer. We believe there shouldn't be

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Speaker 11: a public option, there should be a personal option.

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Speaker 1: We all know the world of competition creates more efficiencies

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Speaker 1: and better products. Give us the right to choose. Maybe

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Speaker 1: Obamacare will be our choice. But if we can choose

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Speaker 1: to go a different route with a different perhaps one

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Speaker 1: of these other private insurance companies, then we'll go that

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Speaker 1: route and everyone will be forced to step up to

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Speaker 1: the plate and make their product more marketable. That would

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Speaker 1: include Obamacare, which, as you point out in the note,

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Speaker 1: since twenty twenty, Affordable Care Act premiums have risen setd

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Speaker 1: five percent. Welcome to Obamacare. Oh it's insane, Lord, I

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Speaker 1: can't believe we're living this reality, but there you are,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of forces are forcing us in that

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Speaker 1: direction and depriving us of choice in what is supposed

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Speaker 1: to be a free society. Americans for Prosperity usually have

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Speaker 1: some action items for us. What can my listeners do

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Speaker 1: to well interject their comments and their desires into this process.

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Speaker 11: Lauren Stewart absolutely well, certainly, you know, check out our

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Speaker 11: healthcare initiative personaloption dot com. That's going to have all

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Speaker 11: of our up to date initiatives in regards to the

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Speaker 11: personal option. I love it because it's a different, more

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Speaker 11: nuanced way of thinking about healthcare and really driving the

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Speaker 11: fact that health insurance is not necessarily healthcare and the

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Speaker 11: different ways that you can be empowered as an American

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Speaker 11: patient and family. And then, you know, just keep up

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Speaker 11: with us on Twitter and x AT, AFP, HQ, and

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Speaker 11: of course continue to have mister Neil back on because

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Speaker 11: we are so lucky to have and he's certainly a

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Speaker 11: helly in when it comes to healthcare.

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Speaker 4: He is that.

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Speaker 1: But Lawrence Stewart, you did an admirable job today. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate your willingness to talk to my listeners to me

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Speaker 1: about this unbelievably important topic. And uh, I will encourage

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Speaker 1: my listeners to go to the websites and learn and

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Speaker 1: help out. Lawrence Stewart. I hope to have you on

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Speaker 1: again someday seven fifty five KR see the talk station

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Speaker 1: you want to save money anywhere, anytime. Take your infote

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Speaker 1: to go.

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Speaker 5: I'm listening to your heart powered.

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Speaker 1: By fifty five krs the talk station at six fifty

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Speaker 1: five KR see the talk station. Happy Wednesday made even

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Speaker 1: extra special today Hour of Power. My listeners know that

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Speaker 1: means we're talking about Congressman Thomas Massey right now, followed

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Speaker 1: by Joe Jennena Politano and Great Alicia Reze Hamilonkenn Commissioner

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Speaker 1: is going to be joining the program at the end

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Speaker 1: of the hour to talk about the budget. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: Congressman Thomas Massey. Thank you for coming on the Morning

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Speaker 1: showing in advance. Happy Merry Christmas to you and your family.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back.

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Speaker 4: Great to be back on with you. Brian, all right, we.

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Speaker 1: Haven't been talking about it much here in the Morning Show,

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Speaker 1: but let's start with the January sixth pipe bomber. No,

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Speaker 1: it's not Erkele from Family Matters. It's Brian Cole Junior,

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Speaker 1: thirty years old. So what was all the brand new

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Speaker 1: evidence and what's the diligent efforts that the Trump administration

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Speaker 1: engaged in to catch this guy that the Biden administration

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Speaker 1: apparently didn't do. From everything I've gathered, there was nothing.

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Speaker 1: There were no new tips, no new evidence. They just

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Speaker 1: put together what they had and processed it and found

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Speaker 1: out where he is. Do I am I missing something,

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Speaker 1: Congressman Massey, No, the.

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Speaker 4: Story still does not add up. And there's no way

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Speaker 4: they're going to make me believe that this autistic allegedly

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Speaker 4: according to his family, he's autistic, That this autistic kid

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Speaker 4: he also happens to be African American living in his

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Speaker 4: you know, family's basement. They're liberals, they're trying to make

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Speaker 4: you believe. At least the news is right now that

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Speaker 4: this guy confessed to being a Trump supporter and that

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Speaker 4: he placed these pipe bombs, that he masterminded this pipe

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Speaker 4: bomb attack on January sixth on the Capitol. Remember this

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Speaker 4: of five years ago. I'm not buying it. I do

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Speaker 4: not believe an autistic black kid in his parents' basement

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Speaker 4: evaded the FBI for five years and masterminded this and

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Speaker 4: built these pipe bombs by himself. Could he have been

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Speaker 4: a patsy? Could he have been part of this overall conspiracy, Yes,

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Speaker 4: could have been. But right now the evidence is then

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Speaker 4: what they've presented so far, and they've got some cell

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Speaker 4: phone pings, and here's why I don't believe it, Brian.

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Speaker 4: I sat in the room. I was part of a

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Speaker 4: deposition of the FBI guy who was in charge of

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Speaker 4: the Washington Field office when January sixth happened, and he

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Speaker 4: was in charge of the investigation to find out who

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Speaker 4: the pipe bomber was. But guess what his resume includes.

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Speaker 4: Just a few months before, he had been transferred from Michigan,

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Speaker 4: where he oversaw the FBI fed napping case of Governor Whitmer.

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Speaker 4: Remember they had some not the brightest citizens in the world.

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Speaker 4: They had entrapped them, most of the people involved in

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Speaker 4: that kidnapping case. Where FBI informants are agents. Well, he

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Speaker 4: comes from that office, he comes to DC. He's there

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Speaker 4: when January sixth happens. He's overseeing all the FBI in Washington,

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Speaker 4: d C. He's overseeing the investigation. We call him in

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Speaker 4: when we get the majority, because remember the Democrats were

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Speaker 4: in the majority for a while Nancy Pelosi was running things.

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Speaker 4: When we get the majority, Jim Jordan calls him in

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Speaker 4: to ask him about the raid on mar Lago, which

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Speaker 4: he also oversaw. And I asked, Jordan, Hey, could I

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Speaker 4: pop in while you're doing the transcribed interview and ask

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Speaker 4: him some questions about January sixth. He says sure. So

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Speaker 4: I go into the transubscribed interview and I asked him,

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Speaker 4: why haven't you guys used cell phone pings? We got

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Speaker 4: video of the pipe bomber placing bombs allegedly on January fifth.

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Speaker 4: Now he wore a mask or she wore a mask

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Speaker 4: and glasses and a hood, so we couldn't identify the person.

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Speaker 4: But you've got cell phone pings of this person. How

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Speaker 4: come you haven't identified him for her? And he said

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Speaker 4: the cell phone data was corrupted. So here's the problem

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Speaker 4: with that. We go to the cell phone providers and

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Speaker 4: they all of them said no, their data was not corrupted.

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Speaker 4: So this is one reason I'm skeptical. Brand is I

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Speaker 4: had the assistant FBI director in charge of the Washington

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Speaker 4: Field office just lie to me in a transcribed interview

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Speaker 4: where he was under oath, and here they are, five

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Speaker 4: years later, they're saying their strongest case is the cell

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Speaker 4: phone pings to identify this this guy in his basement.

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Speaker 1: So were they lying to you then or lying to

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Speaker 1: you now, Congress Ambassy?

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Speaker 4: I think both. It is possible that it's both, So okay,

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Speaker 4: So there's a lot more to this too. I don't

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Speaker 4: know that we've got enough time on your show. It

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Speaker 4: was my staffer who discovered how the second pipe bomb

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Speaker 4: was found. He sifted through dozens of hours of video

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Speaker 4: that weren't publicly available until we got them released, and

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Speaker 4: he found out there was two counter surveillance police officers,

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Speaker 4: Capitol Hill police officers who found the second pipe bomb

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Speaker 4: within fifteen minutes of getting out of their car. They

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Speaker 4: walked right to it and found it. And I thought

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Speaker 4: that was very suspicious. I asked Christopher Ray in a hearing,

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Speaker 4: have you interviewed these individuals? He couldn't give me a

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Speaker 4: straight answer. I asked the Washington Field Office director if

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Speaker 4: he if that person would be a suspect. He said,

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Speaker 4: that's investigation one oh one, and so there's some suspicious

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Speaker 4: stuff going on there. By the way, my former staffer

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Speaker 4: was hired by the FBI and has been working on

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Speaker 4: this case over there. So and then also I brought

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Speaker 4: in the counter one of the two counter surveillance officers.

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Speaker 4: They never let me talk to the other one, but

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Speaker 4: one of them came to my office, not in a

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Speaker 4: transcribed interview, but just as sort of a chat but

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Speaker 4: they brought a handler for him who interrupted him frequently

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Speaker 4: or clarified his answers, or wouldn't let him answer into

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Speaker 4: my they brought the handler with him. The handler turns

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Speaker 4: out to be the atf UH guy in charge of

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Speaker 4: January sixth, who somehow migrated his way over to third

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Speaker 4: in command at Capitol Hill Police. I suspect he was

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Speaker 4: he worked his way into Capitol Hill par so that

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Speaker 4: he could basically watch over this investigation as it played

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Speaker 4: out and make sure that none of the Capitol Hill

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Speaker 4: Police officers were implicated. Finally, there's a January sixth committee,

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Speaker 4: you know, the bogus one the Democrats ran. Well, Barry

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Speaker 4: Loudermilk represented. Barry Loudermilk convinced the Speaker and the White House.

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Speaker 4: The White House had to fight to to get the

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Speaker 4: Speaker to let him even set up this committee, which

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Speaker 4: just blows my mind. Why wouldn't you want to know

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Speaker 4: if there was some conspiracy, Yeah, to make the President

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Speaker 4: and all of MAGA look bad like there was good,

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Speaker 4: like there was an insurrection. Well, finally Barry Loudermilk gets

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Speaker 4: the right to run this committee. It's a subcommittee, and

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Speaker 4: I've been working with him and his staff. He's allowed

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Speaker 4: to investigate anything except the Capitol Hill Police.

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Speaker 1: Holy cow. You know we've talked about your inability to

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Speaker 1: get information. You are oversight, You represent your constituents, you

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Speaker 1: represent the American people. You were the one who is

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Speaker 1: responsible for looking into these matters on behalf of the

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Speaker 1: American people. This is just one more in a long, long,

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Speaker 1: painfully long list of illustrations of them refusing to give

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Speaker 1: you or anybody else access to information, whether it's physical

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Speaker 1: information like video tape evidence. You can't talk to people

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Speaker 1: these interferences with your ability to Q and A people

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Speaker 1: who are behind the scenes and have the information. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is beyond I want to use the word troubling,

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Speaker 1: but that just doesn't emphasize the problem enough.

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Speaker 4: Congress from Massey, and when you talk about my authority

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Speaker 4: or responsibility to do oversight, that's a particular responsibility because

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Speaker 4: I'm on the judiciary right, we have oversight over FBI,

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Speaker 4: DOOJ and ATF, which is why I have asked them

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Speaker 4: all about January sixth and these public hearings. I asked

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Speaker 4: agent or the FBI director Dental Bok if these pipe

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Speaker 4: bombs were viable devices, could they have ever gone off?

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Speaker 4: And they never got a straight answer from him. The

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Speaker 4: reality is you can't set a pipe bomb off sixteen

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Speaker 4: hours later with a sixty minute kitchen timer. These pipe

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Speaker 4: bombs had like the little egg timers you see at Walmart,

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Speaker 4: and so many people have them in their kitchens. That's was,

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Speaker 4: you know. And the FBI story for five years has

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Speaker 4: been that the bombs were set, you know, the night before,

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Speaker 4: not the day of January sixth. There's so much of

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Speaker 4: this that doesn't add up. There's also this new there's

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Speaker 4: a couple new revelations that have come out in the

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Speaker 4: last month. By the way, this is another suspicious thing.

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Speaker 4: Barry Loudermilk's committee as well as an investigative journalist at

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Speaker 4: The Blaze, came out with new information that implicated Capitol

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Speaker 4: Hill Police. Two new pieces of information, and within a

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Speaker 4: few weeks the FBI goes in. Now somebody that is

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Speaker 4: allegedly autistic and evaded the FBI for five years. But

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Speaker 4: the new information is that somebody used a Metro card

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Speaker 4: and that belonged to a government employee. That Metro card

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Speaker 4: had only been used twice on January fifth and January sixth,

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Speaker 4: they've got this guy on video, and when they traced

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Speaker 4: the Metro card owner, it turns out the FBI had

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Speaker 4: staked this guy out for a week and then we're

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Speaker 4: called off of it. But he lives next door to

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Speaker 4: a Capitol Hill police officer that lives like twelve miles

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Speaker 4: away from DC. We're not talking about two people that

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Speaker 4: And when I say next door, they share a wall, Okay,

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Speaker 4: and they it's crazy. But the FBI has video of

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Speaker 4: the person who used that Metro card casing the law.

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Speaker 4: So one of the locations that the pipe bomb was placed,

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Speaker 4: he's there on January fifth taking pictures. I mean he

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Speaker 4: gets on before he gets out of the subway, he

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Speaker 4: puts on a hood, he puts on a mask, he

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Speaker 4: puts on glasses so he can't see who it is,

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Speaker 4: not glasses, but he puts on a totally different change.

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Speaker 4: The f to I quit track in that person. Still

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Speaker 4: to this day, Cash Patel doesn't have a a story

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Speaker 4: for why they didn't keep going after that guy. Anyways,

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Speaker 4: I know this is a lot of information to dump

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Speaker 4: on your listeners. You can watch there's a video that

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Speaker 4: Kyle Saraffin put out that goes over this there's a

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Speaker 4: video on Free the People of Me and Steve Baker,

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Speaker 4: who's the investigative journalist at The Blaze. We spent about

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Speaker 4: an hour talking about in this case, and I'm going

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Speaker 4: to do another interview today for about an hour going

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Speaker 4: through the state of play with this case. But the

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Speaker 4: reason your listeners should care is this may have been

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Speaker 4: a conspiracy by the left that involved parts of our

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Speaker 4: government who either it's it's no longer possible to believe

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Speaker 4: that they were this inept because they've they've been lying.

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Speaker 4: This may have been a conspiracy to incite a riot

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Speaker 4: at the Capitol or to make it or to make

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Speaker 4: it look like President Trump was part of this, and

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Speaker 4: to discredit the entire right continuing. Yes, one last thing.

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Speaker 4: The prosecutor they put in charge of this case this

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Speaker 4: week is the one who tried to prosecute General Michael

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Speaker 4: Flynn and the one who tried to get false, false

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Speaker 4: confessions from the Proud Boy. She convicted the Proud Boys.

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Speaker 4: She's notorious for dealing with altered evidence in order to

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Speaker 4: convict people and Trump's sphere, and the deal she offered

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Speaker 4: to one of the Proud Boys was if you'll implicate

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Speaker 4: President Trump, will give you a lighter sentence. Why the

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Speaker 4: heck is she still working at thee OJ and why

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Speaker 4: did they put her on this case?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Who's in charge of that?

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Speaker 4: I mean you would think it would be Pam Bondy.

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Speaker 1: Yep, you would think apparently not. Congres from Thomas Massey Frightening,

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Speaker 1: frightening revelations this morning, we'll continue with Congress from Massey.

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Speaker 1: Real quick word for my friends at Colin Electric. It's

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Speaker 1: fifty five CASCYD talk station, Ryan Thomas. Congressman Thomas Massey,

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Speaker 1: you follow by Joe Jenner Polatano. Since Judge and Polatana

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Speaker 1: wants to talk about blowing up drug smugglers fifteen hundred miles, well,

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Speaker 1: I'll bring it up your attention. I know you and Massey,

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Speaker 1: are you and Napolitano and even I feel on the

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Speaker 1: same side on that. I'm worried. And now Donald Trump's

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Speaker 1: talking about dropping bombs on Venezuela. Congressman Thomas mess it

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Speaker 1: looks like it's going to be up for a vote.

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Speaker 1: Do we need an authorization and use of military force.

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Speaker 1: Do we need a declaration of war? What happens if

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Speaker 1: neither of those passes were kind of status quo, which

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Speaker 1: means Donald Trump's going to continue bombing Congressman, Well, there should.

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Speaker 4: Be a vote on it, and there hasn't been a

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Speaker 4: vote on it. Even with the isolated incidents of killing

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Speaker 4: let's say Solomony or other terrorists or people associate with terrorists,

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Speaker 4: they're operating off of two thousand and one AUMF that

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Speaker 4: authorized I'll put in quotes air quotes authorized global war

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Speaker 4: on terror. But you have to be al Qaeda or

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Speaker 4: an associate of al Qaeda to be covered by that

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Speaker 4: global war on terror. There is no AUMF authorization use

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Speaker 4: of military force that's been passed by Congress to authorize

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Speaker 4: attax on Venezuela or its proxies. It just doesn't exist.

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Speaker 4: And the problem with what's going on right now, you know,

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Speaker 4: there's a whole controversy over the double tap where they

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Speaker 4: may have bombed a boat and there were a couple

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Speaker 4: of survivors and they went back and killed the survivors.

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Speaker 4: If this had been a true war, you know, let's

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Speaker 4: say you were in Afghanistan, there was a convoy of

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Speaker 4: terrorists with machine guns and you know, armored vehicles and bombs.

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Speaker 4: And I've talked to some of my military friends. They say, yeah,

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Speaker 4: we would we go back and clean up, and if

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Speaker 4: we didn't get all the terrorists in that convoy, we

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Speaker 4: go back and kill the rest of them or enemy

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Speaker 4: combatants for instance. But this is different. What they've done

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Speaker 4: is they've blurred the line between the police action and

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Speaker 4: a military action. They're not saying that these people had

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Speaker 4: guns on the boats and that there was an imminent

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Speaker 4: threat that they could get up and pick up a

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Speaker 4: gun and shoot the plane or whatever. And so I

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Speaker 4: think that's where we're running into the the moral, the

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Speaker 4: ethical and the legal issues is they're trying to take

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Speaker 4: something which is ostensibly a police action, which is to

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Speaker 4: stop drugs from being run, and turn it into a

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Speaker 4: military action. And that with the bigger problem here is

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Speaker 4: they want regime change in Venezuela. And this is probably

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Speaker 4: more about overthrowing a country or a or a leader

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Speaker 4: of a country, whether he be a dictator or not,

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Speaker 4: than it is about stopping the flow of drugs. If

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Speaker 4: it's about stopping the flow of drugs, and you could

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Speaker 4: bomb any boat that had drugs on it would be

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Speaker 4: bombing the posts from China to Mexico that carry the

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Speaker 4: precursors of ventanyl.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but you see, they're a military power that has

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Speaker 1: nuclear weapons and a very strong military, and we've got

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Speaker 1: a lot of geopolitical realities to deal with with China,

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Speaker 1: so there's no way in hell we're going to touch them.

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Speaker 1: But you go to Venezuela, where there's very barely an

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Speaker 1: army you could call, or a military you could even

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Speaker 1: call a standing military. Apparently there's so ill equis and

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Speaker 1: poorly trained, and they've lost a lot of their global

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Speaker 1: support Venezuela has, so you're it's an easy target.

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Speaker 4: So yes, and and just to close this out, I

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Speaker 4: don't know that there will be a vote on it,

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Speaker 4: but I'm trying to force a vote. I have co

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Speaker 4: sponsored a War Powers Act here in Congress to say

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Speaker 4: that you either have to withdraw hostilities against Venezuela or

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Speaker 4: you've got to get an authorization from Congress. That's just

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Speaker 4: like constitutional common sense. So I've co sponsored that, and

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Speaker 4: there's a good chance we can force a vote on

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Speaker 4: that because there are parliamentary procedures that let you do that.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of forcing a vote. I know, we just have

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Speaker 4: a few minutes. I wanted to give you an up

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Speaker 4: date on the Epstein file. Oh yeah, Transparency Act. Okay,

2054
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Speaker 4: So we got that passed in the House. Everybody opposed

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Speaker 4: me until they saw I was going to win, and

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Speaker 4: the vote was four hundred and twenty seven to one.

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Speaker 4: The Senate has never passed a bill so quickly. In fact,

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Speaker 4: they passed my bill before it got there. They made

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Speaker 4: a unanimous consent to say, as soon as Massey's bill

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Speaker 4: gets to the Senate, it's going to be passed already.

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Speaker 4: So it went straight to the President's desk. They have

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Speaker 4: until we gave them thirty days the DOJ and FBI

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Speaker 4: to release this not to Congress, not to the Speaker,

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Speaker 4: not to some chair of some committee, but to the

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Speaker 4: public in a searchable format, not drips and drabs that

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Speaker 4: you can't have to get AI to sort through. This

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Speaker 4: has to be in a public, searchable format by December nineteenth.

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Speaker 4: So they've got nine days to produce all the material.

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Speaker 4: They are supposed to redact the child sexual material exploitation

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Speaker 4: in two and the victims' names, but everything else has

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Speaker 4: to be published within nine days. And two great things

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Speaker 4: that have happened already. There are three cases that had

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Speaker 4: grand jury material that was sealed. There was the original

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Speaker 4: Epstein case in Florida, there was the Jlane Maxwell case,

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Speaker 4: and then there's the second Epstein case that he went

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Speaker 4: to prison for in New York. The DJ was told

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Speaker 4: when they asked for the grand jury material to be

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Speaker 4: released that the law wouldn't allow them to release it,

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Speaker 4: and so the judges wouldn't release it. But the DJ,

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Speaker 4: to their credit, went back to these courts and said,

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Speaker 4: now that Massey's bill has passed, can.

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Speaker 1: You release it?

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Speaker 4: And two of the two of the three judges have

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Speaker 4: said yes, we're gonna we're going to override like new

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01:56:37,640 --> 01:56:40,440
Speaker 4: laws override old laws. I think I've said this on

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Speaker 4: your radio show before. This is just common sense too.

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Speaker 4: People were like, well, you can't release grand jury material.

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Speaker 4: I'm but this is a law and it overrides the

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Speaker 4: old laws or the or even things that are just precedent.

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Speaker 4: So two of the three judges have said, yeah, we're

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Speaker 4: going to release the grand mature grand jury material. After

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Speaker 4: we were dak victims' names. We'll give it to the

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Speaker 4: DOJ so they'll be in possession of that. The third

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Speaker 4: Judge just hasn't ruled yet. Well, and so that's that's

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Speaker 4: the development, that's big, that's already happened.

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Speaker 1: Popcorn has been out some people viewing this as a

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Speaker 1: distraction from the broader problems, like, for example, bombing boats

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Speaker 1: off coast of Venezuela and engaging in war without an

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Speaker 1: authorization of youse some military force or a declaration judging.

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Speaker 1: The Polatana is waiting in the wings. I threw that

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Speaker 1: in there for his education. So Congressman Thomas Massey, a

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Speaker 1: hello from Judge Jennen of Politano, and I will say

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Speaker 1: hello from you to him as he's waving God bless you, sir.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate what you're doing. Keep up the great work,

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Speaker 1: and let's get that information out there, most notably about

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Speaker 1: the Jay six bomber man. That is scary stuff you

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Speaker 1: brought to our attention this morning.

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Speaker 4: Well, Merry Christmas to you, to your listeners, and especially

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Speaker 4: to Judging of Politano.

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Speaker 1: Right back at to Merry Christmas, Congressman Thomas Massey, to

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Speaker 1: you and your loved ones. We'll talk again after the

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Speaker 14: remains over a twenty five minute delay between Florence and downtown.

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Speaker 14: A lot of people decorate their front yards with inflatable santus,

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Speaker 14: but our next guest has decorated his yard this year

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Speaker 14: with an inflatable Congressman Thomas Massey and Senator Rand Paul.

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Speaker 14: They're both holding a twenty by thirty foot American flag

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Speaker 14: made up of over six hundred led twinkle whites. Who

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Speaker 14: was tearing up just thinking about it. The judges next

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Speaker 14: chucking ram Month fifty five krs the talk station.

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Speaker 1: I think Massy's also got a giant discharge petition to

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Speaker 1: get a vote on the authorization for you some military force.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Judge Editor Politano.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, Thank you. Brian chuck Is.

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Speaker 13: You know he really puts time atto crafting these things.

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Speaker 1: He he does quite often.

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Speaker 14: Though.

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Speaker 1: I will give Joe Stracker credit because Joe helped me

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Speaker 1: along the way, because you know, he's busy doing the

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Speaker 1: traffic for like nine thousand cities across this great land

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Speaker 1: of ours that are serviced by iHeartMedia, so we'll share

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Speaker 1: the love. But he certainly does a great job delivering

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Speaker 1: on it, Judge Enita Politano, and I was we had

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Speaker 1: more topics to talk about with Congressman Massy. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to get into that blowing up drug smuggler thing because

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Speaker 1: you Senator Ran Paul. Of course, Congressman Massey and I

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Speaker 1: seem to be the lone three four five total people

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Speaker 1: in the world. You think there's a problem with blowing

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Speaker 1: up boats off of Venezuela. You and I have talked

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Speaker 1: about authorization, youse some military force. We think we're on

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Speaker 1: questionable constitutional grounds because there's no reference to the AUMs

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Speaker 1: in the Constitution. You either have a declaration of war

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Speaker 1: or you don't, or it falls within like an emergency power.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump sees the troops coming at us over the

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Speaker 1: horizon and needs to act right away as commander in chief.

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Speaker 1: You and I agree. Congressom Massy agrees that ain't what's

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Speaker 1: going on with fifteen hundred miles away boats that may

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Speaker 1: may have drugs on them.

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Speaker 13: And even the Democrats. I was moved by Congressman Jim Himes.

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Speaker 13: I don't really agree with him un much, but he

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Speaker 13: was visibly shaken by what he observed and he saw

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Speaker 13: the two survivors obliterated. But even the Democrats are not

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Speaker 13: complaining about the whole project, aha, the entire concept. They're

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Speaker 13: just complaining about killing the survivors. All of this killing

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Speaker 13: is unconstitutional and criminal. There is no legal basis for it.

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Speaker 13: The government knows that, and it refuses to release It's

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Speaker 13: so called authority to do so.

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Speaker 1: Well, as Congressmanski just got done pointing out all these

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Speaker 1: extra judicial killings, the ones done by Obama. And you

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Speaker 1: know that we could go on and on because you

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Speaker 1: bring them up regularly, including the killing of American citizen

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Speaker 1: overseas done under the twenty two thousand and one authorization

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Speaker 1: for used military force to go after Islamic fundamentalist terrorists.

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Speaker 1: Broad leeway there, They're everywhere you can find them. But

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Speaker 1: I don't think that Venezuela and Narco folks are fundamentalist

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Speaker 1: Muslim terrorists, so you can't put it under that AUMF.

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Speaker 1: So you need a new one that allows us to

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Speaker 1: wage a war against I guess when the President and

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Speaker 1: says Narco terrorist, they're Narco terrorists. But if they are,

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Speaker 1: then you need a specific authorization to go after those

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Speaker 1: in the way we're going after them, right, correct.

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Speaker 13: Correct, There is no such an authorization. Listen, I'm I'm

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Speaker 13: with Senator Paull, Congressman Massey, and you on this. The

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Speaker 13: AUMFS authorizations for use of military force are unconstitutional. They're

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Speaker 13: unrecognized by the Constitution because they don't have an end

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Speaker 13: period to them. When we declared war on Japan and

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Speaker 13: Germany and Italy on December eighth, nineteen forty one. The

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Speaker 13: declaration of war ended expired when they surrendered. These aumfs

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Speaker 13: have no surrender. When Donald Trump used a drone to

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Speaker 13: kill General Solomani in twenty nineteen based on the two

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Speaker 13: thousand and one Authorization for the Use of Military Force,

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Speaker 13: there was no connection whatsoever. SOLEMONI was and Iraqi who

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Speaker 13: was in Iran trying to negotiate peace, and they murdered

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Speaker 13: him and claimed to get something to do with nine

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Speaker 13: to eleven. He was a young man in nine to

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Speaker 13: eleven and had nothing whatsoever to do with it. These

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Speaker 13: authorization for use of military force authorizations are like a

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Speaker 13: loaded gun in the resolute desk waiting for the President

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Speaker 13: to take it out and kill whoever he wants.

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Speaker 1: All right, now, let's to address the underlying problem. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm in accord with my listeners. We had a real

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Speaker 1: problem with people criminally ferrying drugs into our country, demonstrably

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Speaker 1: bad for our country, hundreds of thousands of people who

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Speaker 1: have died already. I know we got a problem with consumption,

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Speaker 1: but those drugs are not legally allowed to come into

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Speaker 1: our country. So fighting the drug problem and going after

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Speaker 1: them seems to be the ultimate goal. Expedience is what

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is embracing. Hell, I'll just blow them up

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Speaker 1: and we'll just you know, let Congress and and everybody

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Speaker 1: twiddle their thumbs and scream and yell about it. We

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Speaker 1: need an AUMF, we need a declaration of war. All

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Speaker 1: how do we what do we need to do to

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Speaker 1: get to the problem. I mean, if you and I

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Speaker 1: are an agreement on this, so how do.

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Speaker 13: The liberious libertarian in me says, you own your own

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Speaker 13: body and people should be able to do whatever they

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Speaker 13: want to their own bodies.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 13: I recognize that drugs have ruined people other than those

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Speaker 13: who take them, because the people who take them have

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Speaker 13: spouses and children and jobs and are engaged in economic, social,

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Speaker 13: cultural activity.

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Speaker 4: But I think you should be able to do what

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Speaker 4: you want.

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Speaker 13: That view is not going to prevail. We are victorians.

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Speaker 13: The government thinks that it knows what's better for us.

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Speaker 13: The second view is a due process. Due process would

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Speaker 13: say follow the boat until it gets into American waters,

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Speaker 13: Stop the boat, search it. If there's no drugs, leave

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Speaker 13: them alone. If there are drugs, arrest everybody, prosecute them.

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Speaker 13: You will learn a lot more about where the drugs

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Speaker 13: came from and how they got in the Nation States,

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Speaker 13: by the process of prosecution and plea bargaining negotiation, then

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Speaker 13: you will by destroying everything. Where will I'm now parroting

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Speaker 13: Senator pull Where will the destruction stop? I mean, suppose

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Speaker 13: the boat makes it to Miami and unloads into a

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Speaker 13: moving van, and the moving van is going north on

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Speaker 13: ninety five towards Orlando. Can you blow up the moving van?

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Speaker 13: I mean, where will this stop?

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Speaker 1: That's a great point, I agree, And if they entered

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Speaker 1: international waters, I think law would prohibit us from just

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Speaker 1: unilaterally blowing them up, certainly in the absence of an

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Speaker 1: authorization used military force. They're in international waters, I mean

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Speaker 1: they're in a rather territorial waters. They don't mean international water.

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Speaker 1: So once they've got to the point where they do

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Speaker 1: represent an emminent threat faring this dangerous cargo, like you said,

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Speaker 1: pull them over like the Coastguard does and prosecute it.

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Speaker 13: I mean, these speedboats have a maximum distance of fifty

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Speaker 13: to sixty miles, and they all, all of them, except

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Speaker 13: for the two or three that were off the coast

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Speaker 13: of Mexico, were fifteen hundred miles from the United States. Basically,

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Speaker 13: this thug, Admiral Bradley was shooting fish in a barrel,

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Speaker 13: and as I point out in the article, he was

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Speaker 13: in Florida. The vehicles, whether they were drones or jets,

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Speaker 13: took off from Florida. The people pressing the buttons and

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Speaker 13: locating the targets are in Florida. There's somebody to the

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Speaker 13: Constitution in Florida. They can't say they escaped the Constitution

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Speaker 13: because they're doing their work in the Caribbean. They can't

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Speaker 13: say they escaped the constitution because they're targeting narco terrorists.

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Speaker 13: Narco terrorists is not a legal term, it's a political term.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's I think that's sort of an endeavor

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Speaker 1: to be sly and kind of shoehorn the drug dealers

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Speaker 1: into the prior authorisation use military force, which of course

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Speaker 1: were related to Muslim and fundamentals terrorist. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you can necessarily do that, but it sounds

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Speaker 1: good when you say it out loud. Look, I'm bringing

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Speaker 1: about justice. I'm dealing with these people expediently. I'm sending

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Speaker 1: a message to the world. And the only reason that

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Speaker 1: message is being sent because of the course of Venezuela

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Speaker 1: can't defend itself, right right.

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Speaker 8: So listen.

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Speaker 13: I don't know how this ends. Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, who's

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Speaker 13: the former chief of staff of the State Department under

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Speaker 13: Colon Powell, has told me that the government is spending

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Speaker 13: a billion with a bee a day to house twenty

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Speaker 13: thousand troops down there and a dozen ships a billion

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Speaker 13: with a bee a day. Is that just wasted or

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Speaker 13: will Trump feel the need to do something? And yesterday

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Speaker 13: they conducted the practice runs in Puerto Rico of storming beaches.

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Speaker 13: And yesterday President Trump said of President Maduro his days

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Speaker 13: are numbered.

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Speaker 8: For what.

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Speaker 13: Venezuela doesn't pose the lightest national security threat to the

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Speaker 13: United States. It is not an exporter of drugs. The

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Speaker 13: fentanyl is made in Mexico and comes directly from Mexico.

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Speaker 13: The cocaine comes from Honduras, the president of which he

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Speaker 13: just let out of jail from a forty five year

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Speaker 13: prison term. Who is the biggest exporter of cocaine in

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Speaker 13: the history of the United States government. What am I

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Speaker 13: missing here, Brian?

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Speaker 1: Not quite sure what. I'm sure there are certain elements

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Speaker 1: that you left out, but you know, it just serve

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Speaker 1: to further illustrate your broader point. And I know it's

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Speaker 1: difficult for my listeners to hear. They hate hearing that

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Speaker 1: this is unlawful or extra constitutional, but you know what

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Speaker 1: it's it's the try. I think you can't get escape

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Speaker 1: the truth. Breathe the document, I mean congressional actions and.

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Speaker 13: Took an oath faithfully to enforce the laws and faithfully

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Speaker 13: to uphold the Constitution. The laws for him a extra

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Speaker 13: judicial killing, and the Constitution requires process. A high school

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Speaker 13: student could tell you that.

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Speaker 1: Are you talking today on Judging Freedom your podcast Judging

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Speaker 1: and Apolitano.

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Speaker 13: I have a professor Glenn Dieson and Max Bloomenthal and

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Speaker 13: Phil GERALDI three of my Wednesday regulars. Brian, we are

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Speaker 13: oh so close to reaching a magic number before Christmas,

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Speaker 13: which will be one hundred million views. Ah, we stay on,

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Speaker 13: If we stay on pace, we will reach that a

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Speaker 13: day or two before Christmas.

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Speaker 4: Eve.

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Speaker 1: I wish you all the luck in the world and

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Speaker 1: achieving that lofty goal. Judging and a Polton and deserving

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Speaker 1: of it you are. We'll be listening to your podcast

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Speaker 1: and of course tuning in every Wednesday here in fifty

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Speaker 1: five Kressey Morning Show at eight thirty. God bless you, sir.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk next Wednesday.

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Speaker 13: Thank you, Thank you, Brian remind Ingram I love them.

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Speaker 1: I will do just that, sir. Take care coming up.

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Speaker 1: Alisia Reese, how much kind of commission she talks station

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Speaker 1: about eighteen forty seven? Ryan Thomas pleased as he can be,

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Speaker 1: Please as I can be to Welcome to the fifty

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Speaker 1: five KRC Morning Show. Hamon County Commissioner Alisha Rees. Alicia,

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Speaker 1: it's great to have you on the morning show. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for coming on today.

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Speaker 12: Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: Please do and please to see you stepping over the plate.

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Speaker 1: Hamilon County Prosecutor Connie Pillage, I understand, actually showed up

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Speaker 1: in your budget discussion, meaning as I understand you and

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Speaker 1: the other county commissioners are currently working on the county budget,

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Speaker 1: which must be approved by December thirty. First, if I've

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Speaker 1: got that right, it was noted by local news. I

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Speaker 1: think the Inquiry and Fox nineteen I know both reported

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Speaker 1: on it. You said, the first time you've ever seen

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Speaker 1: a prosecutor come in in person for the presentation, because

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Speaker 1: Connie Pillage is worried about the budget cut coming her way.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's the first time that since I've been elected

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Speaker 12: that I've seen the actual prosecutor come in on in

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Speaker 12: terms of a budget, they usually send their budget people,

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Speaker 12: and she came in herself and let me just say,

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Speaker 12: we've got a tough budget. And you know, for anything,

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Speaker 12: you've got to get to votes. And I have been

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Speaker 12: fighting against a lot of things that have been going

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Speaker 12: on for you know, decades, because people who elected me said, hey,

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Speaker 12: we want to we want to make sure that the

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Speaker 12: citizens and the taxpayers come first. And so in this budget,

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Speaker 12: I'm really want to make sure that we have safety.

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Speaker 12: We've got to have safety, and we have to have affordability.

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Speaker 12: So I've been fighting against property high property tax increases.

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Speaker 12: You know, I've been fighting for the thirty percent that

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Speaker 12: was promised to the people we went to the Yeah,

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Speaker 12: I've been fighting that.

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Speaker 1: And thank you from the bottom of my heart, thank

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Speaker 1: you for being the ones that say, listen, we promised

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Speaker 1: the voters we would do this. Let's step up and

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Speaker 1: do what we were what we promised. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: So it's been a real tough fight because this time

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Speaker 12: they didn't go with it. My two colleagues passed a

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Speaker 12: new deal with the Bengals, and the advisor said, if

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Speaker 12: we pass this particular new deal, it would cut out

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Speaker 12: the promise to the homeowners. And so that's why I

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Speaker 12: couldn't go with that deal. I said, let's get a

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Speaker 12: different deal. Let's try to do what Denver did, get

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Speaker 12: some more private investment. And most of the deals now

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Speaker 12: for the stadiums, have more private investment. But I was

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Speaker 12: out numbered, and they went with this deal. And they

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Speaker 12: knew that in this deal, and in my speech with

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Speaker 12: the experts, the finance people, they knew that the homeowners

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Speaker 12: would get cut out. And so now in this budget

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Speaker 12: they only want to give four percent to the homeowners

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Speaker 12: when they were supposed to get thirty percent. So the

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Speaker 12: property tax this year will go up. And then they

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Speaker 12: tried to blame the homeowners, said, well, the homeowners, they're

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Speaker 12: going to bankrupt the fund. No, the stadium deal is

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Speaker 12: bankrupt in the fund because we didn't get a better

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Speaker 12: We didn't get a better deal. So taxes are going

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Speaker 12: up there. So I've been fighting that. Then they wanted

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Speaker 12: to add can you imagine this in this budget? They

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Speaker 12: wanted to balance it by adding a new transfer tax

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Speaker 12: if you sell your home. And so the Relatory Alliance

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Speaker 12: folks and the relatives that everybody came down the experts

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Speaker 12: yesterday in our hearing and said, we can't do that.

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Speaker 12: That will make or break and be passed on to

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Speaker 12: the homeowners, the buyers, the sellers, and run people to

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Speaker 12: clear myt County Warrant County in Kentucky because we would

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Speaker 12: have the highest transfer tax on fighting to get that

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Speaker 12: out of there. Now, on top of that, we have

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Speaker 12: in the budget where they only put flat for the

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Speaker 12: prosecutor's office. And I said, wait a minute, I mean

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Speaker 12: they have positions that need to be felled. And the

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Speaker 12: prosecutor came down and said she would have to lay

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Speaker 12: off people. And let me be absolutely clear, safety and

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Speaker 12: affordability are my two biggest things. And I said, wait

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Speaker 12: a minute. The prosecutor's office must be fully funded and

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Speaker 12: staffed to make sure that we're taken on crime. We're

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Speaker 12: having justice and we've got safety, and then the other

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Speaker 12: thing in state law. To be honest, the prosecutor's office

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Speaker 12: could go to the courts and get the budget. They

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Speaker 12: don't have to be working, you know, with us. So

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Speaker 12: I'm happy that the prosecutor county pillage as we said, hey,

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Speaker 12: let's try to work this thing out. But I'm telling

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Speaker 12: the administrator and I'm only one vote, but very important.

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Speaker 12: We've got to have a voice. I said, she needs

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Speaker 12: to make sure that her office is funded, has the

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Speaker 12: right staffing, to make sure that the whole county is safe.

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Speaker 12: I'm talking villages and townships and cities. I mean, this

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Speaker 12: is the core of the budget, and we've got to

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Speaker 12: make sure that it happened. We can't be funding stadiums

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Speaker 12: and then come back and say we can't fund the

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Speaker 12: prosecutor's office.

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Speaker 4: It just doesn't make sense, really, And that's.

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Speaker 1: One of the more profound points that came out, and

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you embraced that. You know, we've got to

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Speaker 1: consider priorities. We agree to spend three hundred fifty million

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Speaker 1: dollars on pay corps, and I know we have a

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Speaker 1: lease obligation to do something along those lines where you're

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Speaker 1: going to have to, you know, tighten the belt elsewhere,

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Speaker 1: and we need to keep the prosecutor's office fully funded.

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Speaker 1: I sort of viewed this flat budget that Jeff Alito,

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Speaker 1: the county administrator, suggested, which will result in I think

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Speaker 1: eighteen prosecutors getting laid off or late eighteen people being

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Speaker 1: laid off in the prosecutor's office is analogous to kind

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Speaker 1: of like defund police. If the prosecutors don't have the

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Speaker 1: ability to prosecute cases, then either they're going to enter

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Speaker 1: into real soft plea agreements so they don't have to

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Speaker 1: take people to trial, or they're just going to not

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Speaker 1: prosecute them at all. That is not good for the

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Speaker 1: state of crime in the county.

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Speaker 12: No, that's a safety hazard. And I've indicated to the

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Speaker 12: administrator I don't know and even to her budget person,

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Speaker 12: how in the world did we come in flat on

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Speaker 12: the prosecutor's office. I mean, that's where you kind of

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Speaker 12: start off, and then you know, the prosecutor's office, the

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Speaker 12: shares office. We've got to have safety and we have

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Speaker 12: to have affordability, and that's how I look at the budget.

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Speaker 12: I want safety and then I want affordability so the

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Speaker 12: people can afford to live here. And right now we're

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Speaker 12: in an imbalance as it relates to those areas. And

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Speaker 12: you mentioned you said we have obligations with the stadiums.

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Speaker 12: Remember that obligation had expired. True, so we had a

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Speaker 12: chance to do a new thing, and we came back

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Speaker 12: with a new thing. That axed out a three hundred

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Speaker 12: and fifty million, eight hundred total million deal with interest,

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Speaker 12: and we came in with something axing out the homeowners.

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Speaker 12: And that's why I wanted to take it to the ballot,

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Speaker 12: because if you don't go to the ballot, they'll ax

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Speaker 12: you out. And then you come back and say, now

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Speaker 12: we're going to add the transfer text and then let

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Speaker 12: me say this. People said, we where are you gonna

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Speaker 12: find some of the money. Well, that in the in

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Speaker 12: the budget we had approved and I support sundance. I

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Speaker 12: supported it two million dollars, but we didn't get sundance.

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Speaker 12: We also approved another five million dollars for a women's

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Speaker 12: soccer league. I supported that, but we didn't get it.

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Speaker 12: So that I told the administered I said, that's seven

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Speaker 12: million dollars I just found that we didn't use. Yeah,

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Speaker 12: why can't we Why can't we put that toward the

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Speaker 12: prosecutor's office. He said, well, normally, you know, those are

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Speaker 12: interest earning funds that he found. And he said, normally

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Speaker 12: we don't do that one time. But remember our budget.

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Speaker 12: We have one time budgets because we do at the county.

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Speaker 12: Unlike other governments, we have a yearly budget, So do

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Speaker 12: it now sales tax. Hopefully the economy recovers and then

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Speaker 12: we worry about it next time. But we have us,

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Speaker 12: we have an emergency to make sure that the Prosecutor's

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Speaker 12: office is fully staged. Yeah, it can do their jobs.

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Speaker 12: And because safety is on the line, and then affordability

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Speaker 12: is on the line, and those are the two things

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Speaker 12: that I think are important in the budget. So I've

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Speaker 12: been fighting for these things because there's some tough times

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Speaker 12: out here.

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Speaker 1: Alisha Reice. You just got done finding seven million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Give the prosecutors offers a two million dollars shortfall that

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Speaker 1: that will cover them until next year. And we'll always

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Speaker 1: going to face problems, right, Alicia, deal with it next year.

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Speaker 1: You got five million extra that you didn't spend. Why

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Speaker 1: not throw that at some of the other problems that

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Speaker 1: people are screaming about? You are you? Is there is

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Speaker 1: there a possibility as you see things right now, Commissioner Lish,

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Speaker 1: that they will the county pillets in the Prosecutor's office

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Speaker 1: will get that money that they obviously need in the

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Speaker 1: interest of Hamilton County and the residents. Is not over yet, No,

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Speaker 1: it's not over.

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Speaker 12: I'm gonna fight like hell, I'm only one vote, but

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Speaker 12: you know when I put the thirty percent up when

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Speaker 12: I first got elected, he said, oh, there's no way

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Speaker 12: you're gonna get it. We was able to get it

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Speaker 12: one year, I was able to get the second year.

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Speaker 12: If we get the people. We got to have the people.

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Speaker 12: And always tell people when I'm down there, yes there's

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Speaker 12: three of us, but I'm representing two hundred and eighteen

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Speaker 12: thousand people that voted for me. So it's you know,

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Speaker 12: the people call and get involved in I've instructed the

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Speaker 12: administrator to get with the Prosecutor's office and let's try

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Speaker 12: to work this out because safety and affordability are the

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Speaker 12: two biggest things right now, and we've got to make

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Speaker 12: sure that the county is safe.

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Speaker 1: Excellent a call to action from kind of Commissioner Lisha

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Speaker 1: Reese to do everything that you and I want, which

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Speaker 1: is keep Hamilton County safe, get the prosecutor the funds

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Speaker 1: that she needs so we can prosecute crimes. Alicia, thank

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Speaker 1: you for being a reason. I will look forward to

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Speaker 1: having you back on this show. And if we don't

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Speaker 1: talk between now and December, I wish you the best

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Speaker 1: on the budget, and I wish you and your family

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Speaker 1: are very happy holiday and merry Christmas.

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Speaker 12: Thank you, happy holidays, Merry Christmas to you as well

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Speaker 12: and your listeners, and thanks for having me on to

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Speaker 12: get the word out.

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Speaker 1: Any time. Commissioner reaset anytime eight fifty six. Right now,

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Speaker 1: I fIF you've have Karrosite talk station.