1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: You know you you really can't. Well, I really can it? 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Just did can it on the air? No, you cannot. 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back after just after four o'clock. I appreciate how 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: many people loved my Robert E. Lee joke. Yeah, yeah, 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: Confederate loser jokes are welcome, which is surprising because you 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: feel like in this climate sometimes you can't even joke 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: about that. But I think people understand I'm an equal 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: opportunity offender. 9 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if you check your Twitter timeline, they 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: don't always understand that, but you'll get there. Yeah, five 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: six six nine zero. A couple of people shouting out 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: bct ogs. Thank you, Brad, appreciate that. Appreciate that comment. 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: Dustin as well. Thank you for chiming in good stuff there. 14 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: In the first hour. We had little Jordan Humphor on 15 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: the program. If you missed any of that, check it 16 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: out on demand. Kn'twait Colorado dot com. So we'll come 17 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: up in err a little bit. I do want to 18 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: get we'll listen to some highlights from und Lee. We 19 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: didn't get to that yesterday. I want to kind of 20 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: pour through some of those. I want to ask you 21 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: about Joe Burrow and some of the I don't know 22 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: rumors if you will out there about his future. We'll 23 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: get into that coming up here a little bit. But 24 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 2: Pooka Nakula, it has been a very big name in 25 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: the media for all the wrong reasons recently. Of course, 26 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: he's one of the elite wide receivers in the League's 27 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 2: playing tonight. It should be a very exciting game. Basically 28 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 2: first place in the NFCS on the line with the 29 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: Rams and the Seahawks. If the Rams win it, they're 30 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: like ninety one percent to get the first seed. If 31 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 2: they lose, the Seahawks have a bit of a window 32 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 2: into get into the first seed. So a big game tonight, 33 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: probably one of the best Thursday night football games we've 34 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: had in quite some time. 35 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: A remarkable thing. 36 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: On a very quick side note, I saw I read 37 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: an article yesterday about how the NFL may look, maybe 38 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: even as soon as next year into flexing the Christmas 39 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: Day games because the NFL is bound to the term 40 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: and they are gonna have Christmas Day games. They do 41 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: not want to let the NBA own that day anymore. 42 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: So yeah, they're not giving up free revenue. 43 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: No. So last year was on a Wednesday. 44 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: This year, of course, not on Thursday, which lines up anyways, 45 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: because the Broncos or sorry, the NFL plays on Thursday. 46 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: But now you look at the slate of games they've 47 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: looked enticing at the start of the season. They went 48 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: back in May. You're thinking Cowboys, Commanders, Lions, Vikings, Broncos, Chiefs, 49 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: all division games you'd think would have playoff implications all across, 50 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: mostly playoff teams last year, exciting rookie quarterbacks last year. 51 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: There are two playoff teams playing the entire day, and 52 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: they're both playing in games that I mean. 53 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: Maybe the Lions need it. Yeah, one of them is 54 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: maybe playoff team. Yeah, that's right, that's the that's the 55 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: only one. 56 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: And the Broncos are locked in playing Patrick Mahomes lists Chiefs. 57 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: So there's an article I was reading just yesterday where 58 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: they feel like the NFL will create some kind of 59 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: escape hatch for next year because they don't want What 60 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 2: they don't want. 61 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: Is to be like, hey, we're the NFL, and oh, 62 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: these are all. 63 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: Unwatchable games that we're going to be giving you on 64 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,119 Speaker 2: a Thursday, especially because well some of these are on 65 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 2: like Netflix and Prime. Like the two early games are 66 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: both Netflix games. The evening game for the Broncos is 67 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: on Prime. 68 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: The problem with that is it is very difficult to 69 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: flex games out of Thursday to Sunday because these stadiums 70 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: have concerts and these other things that are planned out 71 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: well in advance that are going to be there that day. 72 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: So you're basically telling those stadiums that they can't have 73 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: anything on either of those two days because they have 74 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: to be prepared for a flex. So that creates a 75 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: very big problem for that, and I think it's a 76 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: lot less likely that they actually come up with any 77 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: scenario there. But they already created this with flexing on Thursdays. Remember, 78 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: because the Broncos were flexed into a Thursday last year, 79 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: they accepted the flex into a Thursday. 80 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: They've already created this. They just haven't done it for 81 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: Christmas just yet. 82 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 83 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: Now, but again, Christmas isn't on Thursday next year, so 84 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: that's where this could get a little bit dicey. I 85 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: think it's probably a Friday next year. My guess would be, Yeah, 86 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: So that's where things get, like you pointed out there, 87 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: a little bit dicey. 88 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: But for the NFL, well, I don't know if they 89 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: care all that much. A then B. They need to 90 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: put out a product on these standalone days that is 91 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: worthy of people not going over the NBA. I think 92 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: people are gonna stick with football anyway apably with this slate. 93 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: I firmly believe even with this slate, you're going to 94 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: see the NFL absolutely dwarf the NBA in terms of ratings. 95 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: I'd be willing to bet on that, even even with 96 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: bad games, you could have marquee NFL I don't even 97 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: know what the NBA matchups are, and you could have 98 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: the NBA matchups be marquee matchups. And I still believe 99 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: the NFL will absolutely smoke the NBA, and they usually 100 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: are like the NBA. They put their early Lakers Nuggets. 101 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: You know, you could have. 102 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: And then Nuggets are playing. Yeah, you could have an 103 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: extent of Nuggets. 104 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: You could have any number of marquee caliber matchups in 105 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: the NBA, and the NFL will absolutely twenty x them 106 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: in terms of viewership. Yeah, Nuggets that got the Wolves 107 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: that night? Yeah, what's in the night game for the NBA? 108 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: If the NFL is Broncos Broncos Chiefs, Dude, Broncos Chiefs 109 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: is going to twenty times that. I promise it's going 110 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: to be It is going to be a landslide for 111 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: the NFL, even if it's a non competitive, non playoff 112 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: team game. 113 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: Man, there's some good games though, just for a moment, 114 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: they're like, like thunder Spurs, those are great teams. 115 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Lakers round and you're still absolutely going 116 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: to have twenty times the amount of people tuning in 117 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: to watch Gardner Minshew lose on Christmas. 118 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 2: I like what you did there, It's good. That's what 119 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: it feels like. He is now today, Now, today, he 120 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 2: had to issue a public apology for some anti semitic moments. 121 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: He was talked into a touchdown celebration. Okay, so you 122 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: gotta get the backstory here. First of all, he tried 123 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: to sneak these guys into the RAMS facility. Yes, these 124 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: are two of these, these streamers, and like, I don't 125 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: know these guys. I watched this thing for the first time, 126 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't know why people would even 127 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: tune into why she's nerds, I don't understand. I don't 128 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: understand the appeal. One of the guys has been banned 129 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: from Twitch. Yeah, I don't even understand the appeal of speech. Yeah, 130 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: I don't understand the appeal, but I watched this for 131 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: a second to try to get some context to it, 132 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: and apparently this guy pays athletes to people little significant 133 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: amounts of money to be on his stream Like Poka 134 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: got like two million dollars to go be on this thing, 135 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: which is more than he made in a year with 136 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: the RAMS. So this guy pays a ton of money 137 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: because he knows it's going to go viral, having these 138 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: viral moments and doing these kinds of things. And I 139 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: don't know if Nikoua unwittingly did it or if he 140 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: actually did it, but you know, of his at the 141 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: end of the day, I mean, you're trying to sneak 142 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: these streamers into the RAMS facilities and got shut down 143 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: by Sean McVay was visibly annoyed by it. It's not 144 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: that's not on camera, but that's like I know for 145 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: a fact that he was very very upset that Poka 146 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: tried to do this. Uh, this isn't the first, you know, 147 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: thing with Poka. It's it's this whole year has been 148 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: really really bizarre with him. You know, his longtime partner 149 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: had a child. He tried to claim the baby wasn't 150 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: his he was. He was cheating on her. He was 151 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: claiming she was cheating on him. He was cheating on 152 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: her with a former Disney boy band's you know wife 153 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: that was separated. 154 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 2: Uh. 155 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: His brother goes out and gets arrested for stealing a car. 156 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: It's it's just, you know, it's starting to become a thing, 157 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: like the one thing. Okay, he's immature. Two things. Okay, 158 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: he's immature, and he's got some some people at a 159 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: circle he needs to but it's all of it, and 160 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: it just continues to be a thing. And yeah, he's 161 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: a he's a good football player, but you know there's 162 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: a thing with that. Eventually, the juice isn't worth the squeeze. 163 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: You can look at Antonio Brown. Eventually it doesn't matter 164 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: how good you are. And Antonio Brown was better than Puca. 165 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: I mean, with all due respect to PoCA, who's very good. Eventually, 166 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: the juice isn't worth the squeeze. And I'm gonna tell you, man, 167 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: you're you're in a market like that where I don't 168 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: think that coach is gonna put up with that, you know, 169 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: big money extension. He's got to get this stuff under 170 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: control and quit quit doing dumb stuff. 171 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: Hey if you're the Rams, because he's got one year 172 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: left on his rookie deal. 173 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: But he's like making one place high him. But I 174 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: don't know that they're I mean, they're gonna win a 175 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: whole running to Yeah, they're not running to extend him 176 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: at this point, and they could have already. They're not 177 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: running to extend him at this point. 178 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: He was asked about on the again it was kind 179 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 2: of a mess. They might appeal to some people. But 180 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: he was asked about the biggest competition in the postseason 181 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: for the La Rams, because of course they've also locked 182 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: up their postseason birth and here's what he said. 183 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: Oh, well, hold on one second. Yeah, I'll try that again. 184 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: Here we go. 185 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 3: I don't know how it's gonna go on like a week. Yeah, 186 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,679 Speaker 3: this this week we play is freaking huge, just gonna 187 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: be big. 188 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, it'll be fun to go up there and 189 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: play Seattle. But I'm looking on the other side, I'm like, 190 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: the Broncos gotta be probably the best competition. Yeah. 191 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, So amidst all the other nonsense, and we talked 192 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 2: about the rest stuff quite a bit yesterday and his 193 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: comments on that, he pointed out the Broncos as being 194 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: a team that has caught his eye. He was also 195 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 2: asked who's the best defense, and he kind of like 196 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: went around and whatever, He's like the Broncos. Once again, 197 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: He's like, I think the Broncos are one of those 198 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: teams so at least at least from the Rams side 199 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: of things or from Pukah's side of things. And maybe 200 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: that is because they're in the headlines because they just 201 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 2: locked up a postseason birth and the one seed could 202 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 2: have something to do with that. It's so funny too, 203 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: because most of the time players on opposing teams is 204 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: if they don't if they don't play a team, they 205 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 2: usually kind of very tacitly have awareness of the rest 206 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: of the league because you're so focused in and locked 207 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 2: in on the next opponents and what you're doing. Most 208 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: of the time, it's like, I'm aware of the other things, 209 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: but it's like you've spent a lot of time studying 210 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 2: Broncos tape, at least not right now. 211 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah, I think you know, I think 212 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: around the league, guys are generally aware of where other 213 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: teams are at the standings. I think he just saw 214 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: the team at the top and the you know, went 215 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: with that, or but Nos Broncos defense is good and 216 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: you just kind of go with that. I don't know 217 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: that Pucas necessarily sat there watching the Denver Broncos. There 218 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: wasn't anything to indicate that he had advanced knowledge of 219 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos as far as that kind of stuff goes. 220 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: So you know, is what it is. But you know 221 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: is what it as far as the stuff that is 222 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: what it is. Puca's just he's immaturity. He's got to 223 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: get his he's got to get his life right with 224 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 1: that inner circle and start to start acting like a girl. 225 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: And man is about to be entrusted with a hundred 226 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: million doctor, Mark Eaton, that's fine, Mark Eaton, that's a 227 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: good one. Away Russell question here from a profit. I 228 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: know you think this is too soon, but who do 229 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: you think we match up better against Seahawks or rams ms? Yah, 230 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: that's it again, it is it is too soon. Profit, 231 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: But I do not want to play that Seattle defense. Yeah, 232 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: they're really good. Rams are good defense too. They are, 233 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: but it's a very into the Fangio defense. And we've 234 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: seen it before. We know the Seattle defense and the 235 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: way what Mike McDonald is going to be the next 236 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: wave in the NFL. There's not many people doing it, 237 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: and I'm telling you it'll give you fists young quarterbacks. 238 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: Gives them fits. Yeah, I'd say if given the options, 239 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: even considering how well Matthew Stafford is playing, I probably 240 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: and I think the Rams are probably the better team 241 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: anyways overall. 242 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 2: And that's the night they're playing in Seattle and its 243 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: supposed to be really bad weather, and who knows. You know, 244 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,359 Speaker 2: it's an interesting thing because you say Seattle's defense is 245 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 2: the better group probably of all those units, even though 246 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 2: the offense the Rams have been very, very good this season. 247 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: But you know, just to argue the other side for 248 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 2: a moment. Sam Darnell on offense, he's had some nice 249 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: moments and Jackson Smith and Jigma is unbelievable. And I 250 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: know you and I are both huge fans. We're huge 251 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: fans who's coming out of college. It doesn't surprise either 252 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 2: of us that he's having the season he is. But 253 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: would you rather play a team that's very good defensively 254 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: or very good offensively? 255 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:38,479 Speaker 1: I would rather play the good offense, okay, because. 256 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: You feel like your side of the ball the defense 257 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: matches up and can play, then I. 258 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: Think we can slow them down shut them down enough. 259 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: And the Rams offense is kind of defense excuse me, 260 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: is it's actually kind of middle of the road. I mean, 261 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: their points per game allowed is a good number, but 262 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: the reality is their metrics are about twelve, you know, 263 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: give today ten to twelve in the league. The Seahawks 264 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: are top five defense. I mean it's it's Denver, Houston 265 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: and probably Seattle are probably the three best defenses in 266 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: the league. Yeah, I don't have much of an argument 267 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: on that. And you know, in terms of points per game, 268 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: I know, the Rams allow eighteen points six, yeah, the 269 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: Seahawks seventeen point three. Yeah, you know, and the Seahawks 270 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: their offense is good, but it's the one that's you know, 271 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: twelve to fifteenth ranked and and you know, in those 272 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: kinds of things, and we've seen that offense before. It's Klinn, Kobiekron. 273 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: Nick Cosmider had a you know, let's do this when 274 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: we come back, because Nick Cosmider had some interesting stats 275 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 2: on the Broncos defense that I I think are overall fine, 276 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 2: but they've been a little leaky in between the twenties 277 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 2: and and the SAT is a little scary. 278 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: They've moved to Ben Don't Break. Yeah, yeah, they have 279 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: been a little more Ben Don't Break. So I want 280 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on why that's happening and if 281 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: that's something that we're gonna see continue. So we'll get 282 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: to that coming up next. Also, we'll hear from Joe Lombardi, 283 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: who had some really interesting thing to say about whether 284 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: this was bo Nicks's best game of his career. We'll 285 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: get to that next. Right over its Vegemota. 286 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: All right, five six, sixth nine zero is our Kai 287 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 2: compas rail text line. 288 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: I were to hear from Joe Lobardi here in a second, 289 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: and then we're also gonna listen to us some satnder 290 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: in the league. I want to ask Ben about the 291 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: future of Joe Burrow specifically, and we'll kind of listen 292 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: to some sound. 293 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 2: We can get a chance to do that. But the Broncos, 294 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: uh per Nick Cosmior. It's a good stat here. The 295 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: Broncos ranked twenty sixth since Week eleven in passing yards 296 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 2: allowed per game in two hundred and forty point three 297 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 2: across the past four contests. Now they are still one 298 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: of the best red zone defenses and that continues to 299 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: be a big deal for this team. They're they're moving, 300 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: they're allowing teams to move the ball against them, but 301 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: they locked down the red zone. And remember last week, 302 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 2: the Packers are, if not the best thing, I think 303 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 2: they were the best best red zone d offense offense 304 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 2: coming into the league. And they went one for four 305 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 2: against the Broncos in the red zone. So, and of 306 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: course Sean Payton also, it was really funny on Monday 307 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 2: because he talked about how they were asking, Hey, you 308 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 2: know Packers are moving the ball against here. 309 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, but they're settling for field goals. 310 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: He's at the point, I'm good with it. Yeah, that's 311 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: what it takes. Three field goals beat a touchdown. Is 312 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 2: it concerning? 313 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: Though? Now, First of all, the Cosmeto joining BCT tomorrow 314 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 1: night at eight pm. For those of you who like 315 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: to know things ahead of times, a radio teas right there, 316 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: s best and the best. I had no idea you 317 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: were capable. Jath Shadwick from the Jaguars team website's going 318 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: to join us at seven tomorrow as well. But I 319 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: will say this, and there's a great article out there. 320 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: I keep recommending it on what Vance Joseph's defense actually does. 321 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: Justin Reid wrote it a couple of weeks ago, and 322 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: it talks about how it's really not a manned defense Horizona. 323 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: It's both right and there are rules, and so what 324 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: defense what offenses have figured out is he said, the 325 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: Broncos do on the inside leverage they go to they 326 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: switched his own right, The Broncos have his own rules, 327 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: and so you can Nicola. You can get down the 328 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: field doing that. So you've got to give up more 329 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: yardage once teams have figured that out. And it's not 330 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: just that. I mean you saw Cliff Kingsbury kind of 331 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: put the blueprint on that quick hitters, power, run the ball, 332 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: the things that you can do against this defense to 333 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: be successful. Teams have a whole year of tape on it. 334 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: Now they kind of figured out what those things are. 335 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: It's harder to defend later to season period. It is 336 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: harder to defend later to season. So you know, now 337 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: that they've got this tape on this, people are ficking 338 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: that up. But Shot Payton is right, this is by design. Yeah, 339 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: they're getting down the field and then they're settling for 340 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: field goals. Totally fine with that. It takes three field 341 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: goals to beat one touchdown, which means we're getting three 342 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: shots to everyone that they're getting because we're not settling 343 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: for field goals. Meanwhile, the Jaguars are thirteenth in the league, 344 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: so you're going against last week, which was the best, 345 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: if not second. I think it was the second best 346 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: actually red zone team in the Green Bay Packers sixty 347 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: eight percent conversion rate. The Jaguars are pretty good though, 348 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: sixty percent conversion rate. Broncos are a little better, just 349 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: throwing that out there, sixty two point five, but thirteenth best. 350 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: The one thing Jacksonville does not they're not very good 351 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: on third down and you sort of saw that. It's 352 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: I would say it's a boom er bust offense, because 353 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: that's not quite sell it correctly. I'd say that again, opportunistic, 354 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, will subscribe it as they get these 355 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: extra possessions from their defense. And by the way, they 356 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: got a pretty. 357 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: Good return game. Parker Washington, I'm a big fan of 358 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 2: He's a good receiver too. He's a good receiver. 359 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: I know what I'm saying. He's both like he's like 360 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: what we want that's exactly it. He's what we want 361 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: MIMS to be. 362 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so's he's I think he's got three touchdowns on 363 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: the season return touchdowns, but then he's also got a 364 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: handful of great receptions in touchdop. But the point of 365 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 2: is is they they definitely have some moments where they 366 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: get bogged down and they can't do much. And I 367 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: really like Traves yt I like a lot of what 368 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: they are. It's just that I feel like this is 369 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 2: the version of Trevor Lawrence that we wanted to see, 370 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 2: like from what we thought he was going to be 371 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: when he came into the league, and he's now becoming that. 372 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: But I think you're right. 373 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: I think we're still a year away from really kind 374 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: of becoming the full version of it. 375 00:16:59,160 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: And they're not. 376 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: They're not as complete as is sort of being painted 377 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 2: right now. 378 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: That team relies on explosives and extra possessions. That's what 379 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: they now. They won on it, They've they've converted them, 380 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: but that's what they rely on. I mean, there's second 381 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: in the NFL in interceptions, right, they rely on that, 382 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: and so that's sort of the thing. If you could 383 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: take away and not give them those extra possessions and 384 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: you could take away and limit the explosives you cruise 385 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: to victory against this team. They are They're decent. They 386 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: have the opportunity and the potential to be quite good, 387 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: I think in a year, maybe year and a half. 388 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: But right now they're just a team that's capitalized on 389 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: this very niche thing that they kind of sort of 390 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: bait teams into doing. They want to get you going, 391 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: they want to get you up tempo, they want to 392 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: go blow for blow and throw down the field with you, 393 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: and they kind of lull you that. I don't know how, 394 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how to describe it, but they've kind 395 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: of lulled teams into doing that, into playing their style. 396 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: Don't play their style, you win. 397 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 2: Here's Joel Lombardi on sort of the extra emphasis, and 398 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: he acknowledges you emphasize ball security every week. Every team does, 399 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: but he said this week, specifically because of Jacksonville, they 400 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: did a little extra. 401 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it starts with ball security, just the 402 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 3: way you hold the ball when you're carrying it. You know, 403 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 3: we're talking fumbles now, and you know, I think when 404 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 3: you watch our team, I think our ball security is excellent. 405 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 3: You know, lou Are, our running back coach, kind of 406 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 3: heads that up every you know, today's the thursdays of 407 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 3: the day where we have a ball security circuit, and 408 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 3: just the way he teaches how to carry the football, 409 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 3: what to do when you're in traffic, you know, how 410 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 3: to fall down with the ball. A lot of fumbles 411 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 3: happen when you're hitting the ground and you go to 412 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 3: protect yourself and so he he does a fantastic job 413 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 3: with that. And then when you know with the quarterback, 414 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 3: you know, and I don't think it changes week the week. Obviously, 415 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 3: you're more aware when you're facing a defense that has 416 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 3: ball skills and they're in position. You know, their linebackers 417 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 3: got long arms, they getting the alleys. Those guys both 418 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 3: have a high number of interceptions in their career for 419 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 3: for linebackers, So just being aware of how they're getting 420 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 3: those turnovers. And you know, again, I think Bo does 421 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 3: a good job of protecting the football when he throws it, 422 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 3: and so just trying to keep up with that. It's 423 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 3: such an important stat it's hard to say you emphasize 424 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 3: it more from one week to the next because it's 425 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 3: always so important. But knowing that this team does such 426 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 3: a good job taking the ball away and they thrive 427 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 3: off that. You know, it's certainly you know something that 428 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 3: we're highlighting this week. 429 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: I mean I go as far to say that it's 430 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: kind of like the number one thing for me. I mean, 431 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 2: you just said it, like, don't let them bait you 432 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 2: into being what they want you to be. If you 433 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 2: can protect the ball, find a way to stay somewhat 434 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:37,959 Speaker 2: committed to the ground game, even if it's just some 435 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 2: of the short passing stuff that is a version of 436 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: this team's ground game, then you're. 437 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: Not going to get into a shootout. 438 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: And I do think that the Broncos defense will be 439 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 2: able to limit some of the explosive plays that the 440 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 2: Jaguars offense has been able to do. And then that's again, 441 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 2: I don't want to sound like I'm dismissing, because it's not. 442 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: They're deserving of a ten and four record. They're a 443 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 2: good team. But when I watched the Green Bay Packers, 444 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 2: for example, like you saw, you saw the path of 445 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: why the Packers would win that game, Like everybody saw that. 446 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: They're a sound team across the board. 447 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: All three levels of their defense all have big time playmakers. 448 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 2: They're very physical, they're fans physical running game, and Jordan 449 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 2: Love was playing at the top of the highest of 450 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: his powers as far as I was concerned that game, 451 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: That's exactly and again to Nick Cosmider's point, they were 452 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 2: giving up some chunk plays in the passing game, but 453 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 2: then they got to the red. 454 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: Zone, and honestly, like soo one for four and one 455 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: of those touchdowns was like the second career receiving touchdown 456 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: for Josh Jacobs. I wouldn't look like Randy Moss out there, right, 457 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't blame Vance Joseph for and again great coverage 458 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: from Drake green Law, but I would say, of all 459 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: the things that you would expect to happen in the 460 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: one touchdown you gave up in the red zone, I 461 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: tip the you tip your cap to that one that's 462 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: gonna happen. It's just like the Commander's game when Riley 463 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: was on, when Rather Moss was on. What's like Trailon 464 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: Burk's yeah, and you just like, I mean, okay, you know, 465 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: like we can't defend that any better. They got one 466 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 1: on us, You tip your cap and move on about it. 467 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: Like this game, It's not like they're gonna forget Traves 468 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: etn can receive out of the backfield, right, So you're 469 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 2: gonna pay attention to those kinds of things. Like he 470 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: got three touchdowns. One of them was Two of them 471 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 2: were just like, hey, you know, great great play by him, 472 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: great design. The third one was was just I mean 473 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: he just kind of weaved in his way out of 474 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: you know, some good blocking downfield, and it was like 475 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 2: a forty yard touchdown, you know. So, I mean that 476 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 2: was one of the six touchdowns that Trevor Lawrence had. 477 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: But the point of it is like that was a 478 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 2: lot of work on his end. I just can't even 479 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 2: though the Broncos have struggled against running backs out of 480 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: the backfield, I'm not saying I'm ignoring that. It's just 481 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: to say, like, well, if if you know that's coming, 482 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 2: because that's what they've done all year. It's not like 483 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: the Packers, who don't target Josh Jacobs a lot out 484 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 2: of the backfield. 485 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: I think the other part of these is if you 486 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: the Broncos, don't tip your hand on defense right and 487 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: make sure he's discipline, because a lot of what Jacksonville 488 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: does is to read you out right. They put these 489 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: guys in motion to set stuff. They're gathering data right 490 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: when they put when when you're putting a guy in motion, 491 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: there's there's only a few reasons that you're doing that. 492 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: But the main reason that you're doing is you're gathering data. Okay, 493 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: is that safety coming down as they staying high or 494 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: is there you know, what are we getting here on 495 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: these there's there's there's all kinds of different things you're 496 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: looking at there, but you're gathering data. So don't tip 497 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: your hand. Make sure you stay home. We're supposed to 498 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: stay home. Don't don't try to get the jump on 499 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: something here or there. And and that's how honestly, uh, 500 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: the Jags were putting it to them last week, to 501 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: their opponent last week is because they were they were 502 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: read them out in the first and second quarter and 503 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,239 Speaker 1: then they came back with the same looks and did 504 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: different stuff in the third. And that's that's how they operate. 505 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: So you know, don't don't get over aggressive. They like 506 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: to take care of they like to take advantage of 507 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: over aggressive defenses. By the way, speaking of the Jaguars, 508 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: they just gave a three year contracts extension to Jacobin Myers, 509 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: who has twenty seven catches three and fifty five yards 510 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: and three touchdowns in the. 511 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: Six games since they've had him. He's been good. He's 512 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 2: been really good. 513 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: And that is like if it was just Brian Thomas 514 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 1: Junior and Parker Washington, most really hadn't had a greater 515 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: year there. He's been better lately. I'm saying they are 516 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: more formidable with Myers. 517 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like that's my point is he's a good possession receiver, 518 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 2: he's a great, great route runner. We had made the 519 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 2: argument about the trade deadline, like, gosh, you know, this 520 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 2: guy could make almost an eighteen better. So it was 521 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: a good addition there for the Jacksonville Jaguars. 522 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: All right, five six, six nine zero. 523 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 2: A couple of texts here I want to answer before 524 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 2: we hear some sound from around the league. 525 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: This one. You guys better not get the cart in 526 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: front of the horse. 527 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: I think Denver still has a lot to worry about 528 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: with teams like Buffalo and how the Patriots. 529 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: No, no, we're not that question hypothetical about would you 530 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: rather not? You know, we're not paving the way to 531 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: the super Bowl already? No, no, not at all. What 532 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: are your thoughts on this year's draft class to this 533 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 1: point of the year. It's not not as good as 534 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: next year's. Next year's class is loaded top to bottom loaded. 535 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: If you're a if you're a shaky junior or whatever, 536 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: or a senior looking at a fifth year, types you'd 537 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: come out this year. It's not a great class. It 538 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: is a good trenches draft. It is. It is a 539 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: good trenches draft as draft. But man, I'm not I'm 540 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: not a fan of this class, especially at the quarterback position. 541 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: I kind of think Mendoza is just a guy at 542 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: the NFL level. I don't really think much of more 543 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: from Oregon. Uh, and those are gonna be the one 544 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: and two quarterbacks taking in this class. I think Ty 545 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: Simpson's going back to school and so, yeah, this is class. 546 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: This is not the class to be needing things. This 547 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: is a class to be looking for luxuries. 548 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,239 Speaker 2: I took that question more as what did you think 549 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 2: about the Broncos draft class? 550 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: Oh this past year? Sorry, I thought you're looking forward 551 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: to the draft. I think that's good because the info 552 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: as well. I think there Archie Harvey's got ten touchdowns. Yeah, 553 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: Harvey leads all rookies in in touchdowns. Not part of 554 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: that because he was thrust in he wouldn't have the 555 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: workload that he's got the last couple of weeks with JK, 556 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: we're still here. Uh but you know he's made the 557 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: most of it. That's a that's a good sign. I 558 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: think Pat bran his has mostly lived up to expectation. 559 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: A little shaky early on, I think he's got gotten 560 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: better as the seasons come along. I'd like to see 561 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: twenty two catches eighteen going for first down. Yeah, I'd 562 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: like to see him clean a little bit of those 563 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: There's some there's some balls I think he could have 564 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: had that he'd loved to have back uhya day. We 565 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: haven't really seen the max of what he can be yet. 566 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: You know, they've used him in this limited role. I 567 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 1: think next year you're going to see what he can be. 568 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: He should have had a pick six, there's yeah, there's 569 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: some been some opportunities left there on this that wasn't 570 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: his fault. That was a terrible penalty. Yeah, he should. 571 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 2: Have had a pick six on him to his name, 572 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: and that would have probably painted a little. 573 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: Bit slidified things a little more. I think in fans 574 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: mind Saban hasn't really got much of a shot this year, 575 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: so we haven'tally seen much like you. I think he's 576 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: looked pretty good. Who am I missing? Cross Shaw? I 577 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: mean he had that one game that you were like, 578 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: oh my god, he's got the yips. So we got 579 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: to have to let this guy go a cross show 580 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: might be a pro Bowl. And then he turned it around, 581 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: had some saying, and then all of a sudden he 582 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: turned it around and he's kind of looking like a guy. 583 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: Who's uh, who's going to be you know, a long 584 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: time punter here? I missed anybody? We the loner? I 585 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: mean we really had you know that that was always 586 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: a project. Yeah, I think that's UHO gets everybody. I 587 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: feel like one more missing somebody in there. We're probably 588 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: missing somebody. But that's that's the meat of the clash. 589 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: And then you look at the alternatives. Mean, of course 590 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 1: they were in line to trade that pick to the Giants, 591 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: you know, and move back and get Treva on Henderson, 592 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: Mason Taylor. Both those guys look pretty good. Oh yeah, 593 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: looks great. You know. I so Mason not playing right now, 594 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: but no, but he did he lookdod when he was 595 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: in there. Of course he had nobody thrown him the ball. 596 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: But another dig of justin fields. You pretty cook came 597 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: in and just absolutely outplayed every game that guy had. 598 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 2: There's a lot of there's a lot of hot takes 599 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 2: about the Broncos selecting a punter in the draft, but 600 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 2: if he ends up being a pro bowler, I mean, 601 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 2: come on, now, there. 602 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,959 Speaker 1: Was a minute there where was it the Raiders game 603 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: where he was having the yips he had? He had 604 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 1: like a couple of early games, the swirling a may 605 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: quote here, that's swirling. Wait you know what I'm talking 606 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: It was a Raiders game. Yeah, yeah, he came out. 607 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: You were looking at the first half and you're like, man, 608 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: this is just gonna be a problem. You got to 609 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: you gotta go get somebody this week. And then in 610 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: the second half he just kind of turned it around. 611 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: He's been five percent, he's been good. All right, you 612 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 1: want to listen to some sounds I'm stupid, all right, 613 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: gonna roll through things. Uh we'll start here. Where do 614 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: I want to start here? Well, we'll start with I 615 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: do want to ask you a little bit about the 616 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: Bengals game. And uh, I'm. 617 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 2: Sorry, Grants. I'm sorry to day Baltimore Ravens winning. Oh 618 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: hold on, you have almost almost Far the shodka. 619 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: One and nine seconds left in the half. Lamar takes 620 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: a snap, Fire's tap for the end zone. He's got 621 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: a man there top down, say far on the Ravens 622 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: Extender lead. You know, Honestly, Jerry Sandusky w B A 623 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: L W I y I Ravens Game be Network. Honestly, 624 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: if Deontay Lee were writing this up at his power ring, 625 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: he's he probably thought the Bengals won just looking at 626 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: the box score. Nice. You know, hey, Levar's actually attempted 627 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: twelve passes. Derek henryally had eleven carries in this one, 628 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: and this was a byproduct to just since I turned 629 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: it over at the end of the day, you listen 630 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: to the future. Joe Burrow, he's gonna be back in Cincinnati. Okay, 631 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: He's not going anywhere, even with his comments, you know, 632 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: anything of all that. 633 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 3: I like. 634 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: Honestly, somebody I talked to up there said it's just 635 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: him taking it personal. That he's when the last time 636 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow had back to back games where he was 637 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: the reason you lost. He's just taking it personal. He's 638 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: feeling down about himself and he's gotta, you know, he's 639 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: got to kind of get himself back into into that 640 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: right hitdspace. I need to get somebody to come in 641 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: there and build them. A defense is what they need. 642 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 1: Maybe a defense Joseph could be. Now. 643 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 2: The Indianapolis Colts lost, but we did get to see 644 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 2: Philip Rivers throw a touchdown. 645 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: Her down in three a seven yard line, two by 646 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: two formation. Phil Rivers takes a step three step drop 647 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: looking rolls inside the five. Touchdown For the Cults, it's 648 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: touchdowns across the goal line, touchdown tidy. 649 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: Why it's Matt Taylor the fan Nice seven one Hank 650 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 2: FM Indianapolis. Now they've already named Philip Rivers the starter 651 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: for the remainder of the season. 652 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: They saw enough. Now give Indy credits you. 653 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: You were a two touchdown underdog in Seattle, and you 654 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 2: went toe to toe with the Seattle Seahawks. 655 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: You hung in there. In fact, there was a point 656 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: I thought Indianapolis might win that game, but then Sam 657 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: Darnold just put together a kind of a late forty 658 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: second drive and they got the field goal at the 659 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: buzzer butt Indianapolis starting Philip Rivers final few games? What 660 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: are your expectations final? The way that Twitter was celebrating 661 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: his first touchdown back since Twitter wasn't invented when his 662 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: first touchdown was being thrown. Wow, but you know, and 663 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be invented for like ten years. I think 664 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: that dude, Philip Verman was like thirty six years old, 665 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: but Garrett Buls was a rookie. Like you want the 666 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: perspective of just how old forty four is at this point. Yeah, 667 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: it's an underdog store. I think everybody's rooting for it 668 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: unless you're playing them, you know, sorry, sorry for you 669 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: a team that's playing the cults. Here the villain that week. 670 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: Everybody's rooting for the old guy. So everybody's rooting for 671 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: the forty or sorry, rooting for the Colts this week 672 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: against forty nine years Oh yeah, the mony, guys, football 673 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: points of the villain this week. You just you sorry, guys, 674 00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: you're you're the villain. Okay. 675 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 2: The Buffalo Bills now to come back against the Patriots. 676 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: Certain goal from the fourteen. Here's the snap four man rush. 677 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: Allen steps up, fires and he's got Knocks in the 678 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: end zone for a touchdown. Josh Allen with a laser 679 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: to Dawson Knocks for his second touchdown reception of. 680 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 2: The game, Chris Brown wgrs for three of five point 681 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: fifty in Buffalo. 682 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: So interesting. 683 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 2: Now with the standings, the Patriots fall to eleven and 684 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 2: three the. 685 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills now ten and four. They split the season series, 686 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: so the final three games are gonna be very, very 687 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: interesting for those two teams. Who do you think wins 688 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: the AFC East. I think it's I mean, the Patriots' 689 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: schedule is much easier, but Buffalo looks like they're on 690 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: a mission now, you know. Finally. It was kind of 691 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: funny because first half of that game, I was sitting 692 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: up there, I was in the booth with David Rick. 693 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: I said, poy, I was on the wrong side of 694 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: this Buffalo game. And then the second half happened and 695 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: I was on the correct side of this Buffalo game 696 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: all along. So you know, we'll go with that that 697 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: I had it right along. But as far as I 698 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: bet you will say that, I will, actually the rest 699 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: of it that means the results that matters, not to you, 700 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: as far as the rest of it goes mean, his 701 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: team looks like they're finally get it right at the 702 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: right time because they've been up and down all year, 703 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: and Sean McDermott needs it. If they don't get to 704 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: the AFC Championship and or win that, I think he's 705 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: gone real lycas wow so sewn Fox type situation. 706 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I can sort of see that at this point, 707 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 2: especially with no Patrick Mahomes, no Lamar Jackson. 708 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: Potentially in the postseason, you don't you don't get to 709 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and or at least competitive in the 710 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: AFC Championship, I think he's done. This is one I 711 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: sort of think you called. I can't remember. New Orleans 712 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: Saints scrappy Tyler Shuck, Hello, I'm the twelve three receivers 713 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: to Chucks Ryder comes pressure, throws it towards the inside. 714 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: Chris oh, lovely touch Dawn New Orleans. Oh, Mike cos 715 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: don't don't want that. WWL Radio the flagship station for 716 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,719 Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints. So are the Saints? Did they 717 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: find their quarterback? Might have by the way they lay 718 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: another big day? Five catches sixty nine yards over there. 719 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: Now he's heard he's not gonna be out there this 720 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: week for the Saints. He got hurt in that one, 721 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: but early on was lead the team. He in fact, 722 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: he had more receiving yards and the rest of the 723 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: team combined up until Lovey got going a little bit late. 724 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: Get in there and make it about you. Then make 725 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: it about Dwan Bailey, our guy on their guest today 726 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: got some run and that's not what you're doing too. 727 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: He had three catches for thirty nine yards and starting 728 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: running back for Carrie for love He has to say 729 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: there's there. It might be, Uh, might be. I asked 730 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: Tom that he may he may get some run this week. 731 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 732 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: I think Seuck is uh And he's making a believer 733 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: out of people. I'll say that. I think he's gonna 734 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: I don't think New Orleans is going to be in 735 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: the quarterback market this draft, Like like a lot of 736 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: people thought. 737 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 2: I like what he's doing. And this is a tough 738 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,239 Speaker 2: thing for me. When a quarterback is playing well on 739 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 2: a losing team. 740 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: Is it the no pressure situation? 741 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 3: Right? 742 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to be the guy next year and 743 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: they'll and they'll see you from there. 744 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 2: I give him another year, Chuck. Yeah, he's the guy 745 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 2: next year. Tell he's what he's the second round pick. 746 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe he's he makes a guy next year. Yeah, 747 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 2: they have no investment Rattler. I mean, you know, it'll 748 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 2: be it'll be shugged show to run next year. On 749 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 2: the other side of that, the Panthers blow a huge 750 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 2: opportunity there waffering Tampa Bay losing on Thursday night, and 751 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 2: then the Carolyn Panthers even tweeted out about way here 752 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 2: we go our opportunity. 753 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: And they lose. Now you have two games in the 754 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: final three against Tampa Bay. Who's gonna win the South. Well, 755 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: I think Tampa will wind up just defaulting their way 756 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: into it. But you know you talked about you shugged 757 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: the guy going forward. I think the bigger question is 758 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: bright young the guy going forward. You get off in 759 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: great moments, had some moments, but man, you've got some 760 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: games that you gotta must have it win. And you 761 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: put up a buck sixty three against the Saints and lose. Dude, 762 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: come on my last one here kan say, Chiefs lose. 763 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes Mahomes off play action, moving to the right. 764 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: He'll throw it late, a flag thrown on the plane. 765 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: It's incomplete. Mahomes is hurt. Mahomes just grabbing his leg. 766 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: He's hurt. Mahomes taking a shot at the end of 767 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: that play and is grabbing his leg. 768 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 2: Mitch holtisneks by the Fans Chiefs Radio Network. I mean 769 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 2: we've Yeah, you could tell and he could tell. That's 770 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 2: we all could tell. Like right in that moment, Well 771 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 2: you could see like you saw it, you knew right away. 772 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a shame. I mean, you never want to see, uh, 773 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: you know, a great player go now, worry go down. 774 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: He brought those country We don't. We don't celebrate injuries 775 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: of opponents. We we beat those guys. I don't and 776 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: I and I'm not. 777 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 2: But but as far as the timeline for this man, 778 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 2: it just made some debate on what whether it's an 779 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 2: a CL or a CL and l C L and mos. 780 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an a CL and LCL. Okay, so that's official. 781 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: He is officials. He already had the surgery for it. 782 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: He's going to be out for a minimum of nine months. 783 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: How do you think this impacts the Chief's view of 784 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 1: the off season? He will not be starting in the 785 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: season next year. I'll put it to you that way. Okay, 786 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: it'll be somebody else, whether that's Minshew, who has the 787 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: opportunity to play his way into the interim starter role 788 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: next year, or someone else. Pat Mahomes will not start 789 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: the season for the Kansasity Chiefs. 790 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 2: Okay, I sort of wonder what the reset looks like 791 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 2: there for the Chiefs, you know, like like, because you've 792 00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 2: been saying it all. 793 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: Year, they're an older they're an aged team. The perfect 794 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: time to do it, Yeah, this is the perfect time 795 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: to flush that thing and start over. And Avy hasn't 796 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: had the same success since a he let her be 797 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: n to me go off at staff. They need somebody 798 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: to hold players accountable. I'm not talking about bnb's ex's 799 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: and o's. I'm talking about holding people accountb in the 800 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: locker room. And since he's gotten away from using those 801 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 1: bigger running backs like Duce Staley, a Carroll buck Alter, 802 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: those type of guys Nile Davis that he used to have, 803 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: those two hundred thirty pounders, he's running these smaller backs 804 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: out there in their offense. It's the same. All right, 805 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: we'll come back. 806 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 2: We're going to dial in a little bit on the 807 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 2: sound from the coordinators today. Joe Lombardi was this Bonick's 808 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 2: best game as a pro. 809 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:33,439 Speaker 1: We'll get to it next