1 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: M hm, can't probably. 2 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: Hello, you're on the air. Stop it stop it stopping. 3 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 2: So you're telling me there's a chance. Sorry, k fair well, 4 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: hoop action. Yes, how you doing? 5 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: Hey? 6 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: How you doing? 7 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 3: How you doing? 8 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: Good morning p A nine to noon. Just listen, just listen. 9 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 2: What did what did I you wrong? Time for two more. 10 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 2: That's a great set up, Bob, And that's a fact. 11 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: Nine to noon. 12 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 4: Personal file whipping. 13 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: Good stuff. Yeah, we're here with some good stuff. Just 14 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 2: down by getting up things organized for nine to noon. 15 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: Were here? 16 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: I know, right, I know right, same. Chris Finch, head 17 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: coach of the Minnesota tim for Wolves, is close to 18 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: set to kicking off in jump ball like fashion. The 19 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: Thursday nine to noon radio show good times bad times, 20 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 2: not just for some local sports teams, but like the 21 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: nine to noon Love Covenant Vibe. 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Right 27 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: now though, that's a cool run for nine to Noon 28 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: this week with these head coaches pj off at thirty 29 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: eight point drubbing a kinnick O'Connell Tuesday, off the Chargers debacle, 30 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 2: Beinchy today coming up very soon off an a ort 31 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: to smasher last night at the hands of Austin Reeves 32 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: and two consecutive losses. And Minnesota wild head coach Sean Hines. 33 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: He joins today at eleven forty and the Christmas Colors 34 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 2: have dropped seven of eight and four in a row. 35 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: Come on as part of the Timber Tech Walks on 36 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: Deck set list. Welcome to nine to Noon, The Oof, 37 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,839 Speaker 2: The Oof, The Oof was on fire, provided by Matt 38 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: producer Eric Nord Christ, producer of None to Noon. And 39 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: I'm Paul Allen. What's coming up today? We'll start with 40 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: Chris Finch here momentarily, then we will segue into Vikes bites. 41 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: And there is a lady named Emily Leiker who covers 42 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings for the Star Tribune. Emily like her, 43 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: and I just want to say Emily thanks. I know 44 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: her a little bit nice lady, but I want to 45 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: thank her because yours truly sat through I think twenty 46 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 2: two minutes and forty five seconds of a Kevin O'Connell 47 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: press conference yesterday, waiting for a Josh Oliver availability question, 48 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: and just in the nick of time, Emily came through 49 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 2: right at the finish line for the update. Thank you, 50 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you. Nine to noon is in the 51 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 2: air and joining us now is Timberwolves head coach Chris Finch. 52 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: Courtesy of Second Harvest Heartland and two Harvest dot Org. Chris, 53 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: It's Paul Allen. Good morning to you. 54 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: Hey, good morning, Paul. How you doing all. 55 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: Right, ma'am? Sorry about the loss last night for those 56 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: who missed it. Why did you lay on the sword 57 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: after the game for the Reeves winner? 58 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: Well, you know, in those situations, I think, uh, you know, 59 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: we've been really good when we just kind of switch everything, 60 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: keep everything in front, and you know, yesterday we we 61 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: kind of stayed in what you call coverage, and uh, 62 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: you know, the most important thing is whether you decided 63 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: to do A or B or C, is that you 64 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: have great clarity on what you're doing. And you know, 65 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: I think maybe there was a little bit of uh 66 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: indecision on what we were going to do there, so 67 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: uh totally on me in that moment in time. I 68 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: thought we executed the play before perfectly well, wanted to 69 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: take the foul. Uh, And then after that, I just 70 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, we needed to be a little 71 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: bit more clear on what was going on. 72 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: So right, yeah, yeah, I saw it. I understand. I mean, 73 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: I understand what you're saying. Certainly, I'm not going to 74 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: get into mental gyrations with an elite NBA mind, But 75 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 2: I thought Austin Reeves had a nice floater. I mean, 76 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 2: do you know, maybe don take out there a half 77 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: second late, but uh, I mean that was a tough shot. 78 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 2: Kind of a tough shot, don't you think. 79 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. A tough shot. I think. 80 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: You know, we had our two two best defenders in 81 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: the action. You know, he split them, which was a 82 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: great play by him, and you know he's got that 83 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: deadly kind of in between game. Uh, and Dante did 84 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: a really good job of stepping up and he contested 85 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: the heck out of it, but you know, it splashed 86 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: through that as the time expired. So all credit to 87 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: him and all credit to them. They they deserved that 88 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: win last night. They deserve that shot to go in. 89 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: You know, we we we we challenged it hard, but 90 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: ideally at that point in time, you don't want to 91 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: be split. You want to keep everything in front, you know, 92 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: make him make a similar shot over Rudy rather than 93 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: you know, over a smaller defender in the paint. 94 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 5: Mm hm. 95 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: And and last night in that loss to the Lakers, 96 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 2: at one point lost to the Lakers. Uh, you guys 97 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 2: gave up ninety seven through three, which obviously is not preferred. 98 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 2: Is is establishing defensive identity an early season a topic 99 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: for you, no doubt about it. 100 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: And uh, you know it's that's something we we've been 101 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: good at. We've had a couple of the worst defensive 102 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: performances in my time here. Can't quite put my finger 103 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: on exactly why. I think there's some collection or reasons. Uh, 104 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: but uh, you know, we've got to get back. I thought, uh, 105 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: with to have more of a defensive personality. Uh. I 106 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: thought it was good to see Jaden back, you know, 107 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: the Jayden that we've seen and come to know as 108 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: a top level defender. I thought he did a really 109 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: good job of bothering Reeve's shot making. You know, Reeves 110 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: did a really good job of finding his teammates. But 111 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: I thought Jaden was outstanding on him, and you know 112 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,239 Speaker 1: that's what we We definitely needed that. It's a step 113 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: in the right direction. 114 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 2: How how how'd you put him on a nineteen in 115 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. I mean, you get the ninety seven through, which, which, 116 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: like we said, was not preferred, but then it's a 117 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: nineteen in the fourth quarter. How'd you do that? 118 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, that was just you know, that's being more 119 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: like we need to be. We just can't wait to 120 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter to do it. We uh, we got 121 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: more physical, We got into you know, into the ball. 122 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: Actually we got into there to the rest of them too. 123 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: It was I thought, you know, La Rabia and connect 124 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: had comfortable games. They were able to get to this 125 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: spot easily, and you know, we just kind of got 126 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: a little bit more aggressive. And you know, we've been 127 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 1: playing tentative defensively, like we're afraid to foul. We do. 128 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: We have had a fouling issues, So I don't know 129 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: if guys are kind of trying not to foul. But 130 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: there's a there's a right type of physicality and a 131 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: way to play without fouling, and we haven't found that 132 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: balance yet. 133 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: Chris Finch, coach of the Minnesota Timberwolves, Weekly nine to 134 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 2: now thank you, second Harvest Artland and to two Harvest 135 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: dot org. Two Harvest dot org. With the holiday season approaching, 136 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 2: please please give the webs I had to look. If 137 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 2: you are so inclined, this may have a little loser's 138 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: lament to it, but I'm a fired anyway. Austin Reeves, 139 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: all right, he's the hottest player in the NBA right now. Man. 140 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: He had fifty one over the weekend and and you 141 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: guys put him on a bad shooting game and three 142 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: of eleven from three. All right, so despite the game 143 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: winning floater, it seems the plan there with him, I 144 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: mean he's their best scorer. Obviously without Luca and Lebron, 145 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 2: the plan there was pretty sound, right. 146 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he started again and lots of use. 147 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: Jayden did a really good job, and when other people 148 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: got on him, they for the most part, did a 149 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: really good job of making it hard. We picked him 150 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: up full court, We chased them around all the screens. 151 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: He's super crafty in the mid range. You know, he's 152 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: he's kind of a He does a really good job 153 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: of selling contact to the officials. So you got to 154 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: be real clean around him. But you know, we crowded 155 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: the areas that he wanted to go, and you know, 156 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: he made the right play, kicked out, and his teammates 157 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: delivered for him by making some shots. 158 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: And Chris, Chris you mentioned, picked him up, you know, 159 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 2: kind of full court. It's not Ye. Well, here's the 160 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: point is, I'm watching games last night or some games 161 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: the night before this This picking up players you know 162 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: three quarters court. That that that's happening a lot around 163 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: the league, isn't it. 164 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: It is? You're seeing more of it, you know. I 165 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: think it's a couple of reasons. I think everyone does 166 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: it for different reasons. Of course. Uh, you know, just 167 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: bring bring pressure, be disruptive. There's not a ton of 168 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: like great natural point guards and ball handlers that can 169 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: just carve up pressure with the ball in their hands 170 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: any anymore in the league. That's one. 171 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 2: Two. 172 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: It slows teams down. Everybody's trying to run. Everyone's abound 173 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: really stressing these early hit ahead passes to early attacks 174 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: and before defense can get set. So you're actually setting 175 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: your defense and establishing the up court pressure. And then 176 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: the final thing is, you know, analytically, we know that 177 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: the deeper you get into a shot clock, the tougher, 178 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: the shots become to make. And so that's really why 179 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: people run PA. It's not because it's fun and pretty 180 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: and fans love to see it. It's it's basically because 181 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: you get to the easiest, best, most efficient shots. So 182 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: the further you go in to the shot clock they get, 183 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: they get harder and harder, and so it's just a 184 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: way to eat clock if nothing else. 185 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 2: How do you think analytics analytics mesh with with basketball, 186 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: because like and and you know, maybe there are a 187 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: lot of things that help you win games that I 188 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: would know about, but like off what you just said, 189 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 2: analytics show that if you pressure them and it's slower 190 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: to get up the court, teams make fewer shots with 191 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 2: with fewer seconds on the shot clock. I mean that's 192 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 2: age old though, right, I mean it's it's like you've 193 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: known that ever since you started playing basketball. 194 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I mean that's that hasn't changed. And you know, 195 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: now we have the analytics to prove what we've kind 196 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: of thought was always true. And the you know, analytics 197 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: for me, it's I've said this a lot. It's a guide, 198 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: not a god. You know, we're not going to do 199 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: something blindly just because it's telling us to do it. 200 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: I think when you're in the game planning phase, when 201 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: you're in the you know, building your team philosophy phase, 202 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: like when you're when you're more zoomed out on the game. Uh, 203 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: you know, analytics is a great place to kind of 204 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: fift through things to figure out, like within your own team, 205 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: you know what makes sense to winning. And but the 206 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: closer you get to the game or when you're in 207 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: the game, and you know, you have to use more 208 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: of your IQ, your basketball feel, your your experience, your knowledge, 209 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: your you know, your individual skill set tendencies that you 210 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: have on your roster. And uh, you know, because at 211 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: that point in time, it's a it's a minute by 212 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: minute problem. And when you have that, you know everything 213 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: the numbers will change a little bit. Now, if you 214 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: had ten thousand examples of something like that, then you 215 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: know you can make a proper analytics decision. You know. 216 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: You were kind enough to introduce me to Kevin O'Connell 217 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: last week in LA We had a really really cool 218 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: chat about, you know, analytics in football and how that 219 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: really affected fourth down decision making and now everybody's an 220 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: expert on what to do fourth down and it's not 221 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: always the case. As you know, as a coach, you 222 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: got to make a lot of decisions that might go 223 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: against analytics in the moment, even though you're a big 224 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: believer of them overall. 225 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 2: Like I am right, and last Thursday a week ago, 226 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: when you and Kevin met each other for the first time, 227 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 2: that was the highlight of the entire day because the 228 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: football team lost that night and we get back super early, 229 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: and now we got the Lions this weekend. So thanks 230 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: for that time. It was great listening to you guys. 231 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 2: Chat Ris, No, it was awesome. 232 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate the intro. You know, Kevi and I have 233 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: a lot of respect for each other and plan to 234 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: get together and talk more more about this crazy business 235 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: life we've chosen. 236 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: When when you mentioned you'd like go Bear and McDaniels 237 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 2: to do a better job with point of attack defense 238 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: and screen navigation, All right, what are you looking for 239 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: and did you see it last night, because like after 240 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: you said it, I was looking for it closely and 241 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: McDaniels in the first quarter looked like he executed a 242 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: ten out of ten. 243 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: Right. Oh, absolutely, yeah, those guys really stepped up, responded 244 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: last night. I thought they they looked a lot like 245 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: we need them to look like they're when they're playing 246 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: at the top of their games defensively, no doubt about it. 247 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: You know, I listened. We have a lot of guys 248 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: who can play defense, and right now we need more 249 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: of them to get back to leaning into that side 250 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: of the floor. And it starts with your best defense. 251 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: There's just like anything else, like if you want to 252 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: you know you're gonna win a you want to win 253 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: to win a win a big baseball game. You know, 254 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: your your your pitcher and your catcher, your battery has 255 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: got to be good. Now football is your quarterback and 256 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: your top receiver. But they gotta be good. They gotta 257 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: they gotta be on the same page, and they gotta 258 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: have chemistry and uh, you know our Jaden is our 259 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: best point of attack defender. And you know Rudy of 260 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: course is uh is outstanding at the rim when he's active. 261 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: And you know, we we've been inconsistent in those areas, 262 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: not just those guys, but but everybody. But they need 263 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: to be the tone setters. 264 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: Chris Finch Weekly nine to Noon, courtesy of Second Harvest Heartland. 265 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: What Anthony Edwards, what what are some things you see 266 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: differently with your squad when Edwards doesn't play. And I 267 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 2: and I mean both good and things you would prefer 268 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: to improve. 269 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I think one thing went. You know, 270 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: we we miss a little bit of personality, you know, 271 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: a little bit swagger without Anthony. He's just he's got 272 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: so much of it. He gives us confidence. He infuses 273 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: his teammates with the same type of energy. Uh, you know, 274 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: and I think that's one Uh, you know, we've got 275 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: to find uh, We've got to find a little bit 276 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: more of a personality without him. And we have a 277 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: you know, we have a lot of quiet guys and 278 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: that you know, they're all kind of serious, quiet guys. 279 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: But we got to play with a little bit more 280 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: I think emotion and that that will kind of fuel 281 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: us through some tougher times. I think, you know, we're 282 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: doing a good job right now establishing slow in the offense, 283 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: and you know, it's good to see other guys, you know, 284 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: step up and do the things we know that they 285 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: can do. Like Jayden's right now playing in a great 286 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: offensive rhythm. Uh, we're really finding him. He's he's doing 287 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: an excellent job. You know, Julius is up to his scoring. 288 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: We we know how important he is for us overall, 289 00:16:55,520 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: but we value his playmaking, you know, alongside it Anthony. 290 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: But he's certainly an on demand go to score that 291 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 1: we can close games with. So you know, when Anthony 292 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 1: comes back, obviously we gotta we got to find a 293 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: way to keep these dynamics also prominent while you know, 294 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: reintegrating him and getting him back to to you know, 295 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: being our. 296 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 2: Leading light and and the these these basically three Anthony 297 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 2: has missed. Julius is at twenty nine points per game, 298 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: and the three game again was good last night he 299 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 2: was and and and he was nine to ten from 300 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: the line. But you know, with with with Randall hitting 301 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 2: threes in volume, is there any double edged sword to 302 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: that in pulling a high end rebounder consistently that far 303 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: from the basket. 304 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess you could say that a little bit 305 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: of a trade off. You know, he plays on the 306 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: perimeter offensively, Uh, but he's I think the good outweighs 307 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 1: the benefit of the offensive rebound of all the other 308 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: things we need him to do, all the other things 309 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: he can do, right, you know, he's he's twenty nine 310 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: points a game, has been pretty highly efficient, which is, 311 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: which is also something that you know, we love and 312 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: we need. And he's been able to draw fouls too, 313 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: So at that point, I think it's worth the trade 314 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: off we have other guys. I think we can be 315 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: a little bit more active on the offensive glass in 316 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: his place. 317 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that, and and that he he shot almost half 318 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 2: your free throws last night, and and that, you know, 319 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: without Edwards, is it fair to say you need to 320 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 2: make sure others outside of Julius stay aggressive and find 321 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 2: some free points at the line. 322 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I mean that's you know, getting to 323 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: the free throw line is a big part of you know, 324 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: effiicient basketball. And you know, right now, I think there's 325 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: a huge upticking free throws across the league. Like so 326 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: if you're not drawing fouls and getting a free throw line, you're, 327 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: you know, you're behind the curve. And that's you know, 328 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: back to your question earlier about analytics, like whether you're 329 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: a believer of it or not, or how much you 330 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: decide to employ with your team, The reality is that 331 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: you know some of it's true. It's just it exists 332 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: and it's always been there and once you know it, 333 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: you can't unknow it. And it's what drives like efficient basketball, 334 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: and if eighty five to ninety percent of the league 335 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: is playing that way and getting up a high volume 336 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,719 Speaker 1: of freeze and drawing fouls and playing fast and all 337 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: the things that analytics tell us that we should do. 338 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: If you're not doing those to some level, you're really 339 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: putting yourself behind the curve. It's really hard to play 340 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: catchup all the time. So if you're getting out shot 341 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: from the free throw line, which is an adage that 342 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: you and I were taught growing up, Hey, you got 343 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: to take you got to make more free throws than 344 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: than your opponent's take. That was what we were taught 345 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: back in the nineteen seventies playing basketball. It's it's just 346 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: another way to say the same thing, like, you're just 347 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: going to struggle if teams are out shooting you from 348 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: the free throw line every single night. 349 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 2: A couple on Dilly to close here, Rob Dillingham got 350 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: some run last night. Seems the seems the pick and 351 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: roll game with Dillingham and Rudy, it seems it has 352 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 2: some promise. 353 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: What did you say, Absolutely, Yeah, he's a good, good 354 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,239 Speaker 1: Rudy partner and pick and roll. I think you can 355 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: find him on the late lob. You know, he's pretty shifty. 356 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: You can get to the paint, create create first teammates 357 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: when you know, I think he can also establish a 358 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: pretty good, pretty good connection with nods out there and 359 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: in the pick and roll, pick and pop game. 360 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 2: Right, And and you and O'Connell, you know a common 361 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: thread here, you're both raising young quarterbacks. JJ McCarthy twenty 362 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 2: two years of age. He'll start this weekend. How how 363 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 2: old's Dillingham twenty one? 364 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: I think he might be twenty yeah. 365 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 2: Twenty yeah, twenty, So you know, and then that's potentially 366 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 2: a future quarterback for you. Now, the other side of 367 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 2: it off what we just said about that pick and 368 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 2: roll Correct me if I'm wrong here, but it seemed 369 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: like they into attacking him a tad on defense. Is 370 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 2: that something you have to work around when he plays, Yeah, 371 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 2: no doubt, you have. 372 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: To account for it. He's got to continue to fight 373 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: and be better at all the different coverages and ball 374 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: contain and figure out a way to be an impactful defender, 375 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: whether it's get steels, get fifty to fifty balls, be 376 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: great in coverage, you know, win the first scribble. Like 377 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,479 Speaker 1: there's certain points on the floor that once you know, 378 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: once they get to get to you know, he just 379 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: he kind of runs out of size and that it 380 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: is what it is. So he's got to be good 381 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: up the floor, win all his battles in the middle 382 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: of the floor, and you know, continue to try to 383 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: improve that side of the floor because he's gonna until 384 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: he does, he's going to certainly be a target. 385 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: And lastly, next for you at Charlotte Saturday, you get 386 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: the Hornet Saturday LaMelo ball kind of a rolling ball 387 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 2: of butcher knives, gets a little wild, but nevertheless he 388 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 2: can do a lot of things well, Miles Bridges, he 389 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 2: can be tough as nails. But this duke, rookie Conk Nipple, 390 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 2: he's going pretty well for them since Brandon Miller heard 391 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 2: his shoulder. What did you think of Canipple into the draft. 392 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: I liked him a lot. You know, he was a 393 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: guy he was pretty highly thought of when the season 394 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,719 Speaker 1: started last year at college, but you know, he got 395 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: he just kind of grew in stature the whole season 396 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: and you know, he improved his draft status as a result. 397 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got great size, he can kind of 398 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: do it all. You know, it was overshadowed a little 399 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: bit by his teammate down there in Duke, but I 400 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: thought he was just as instrumental to all the success 401 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: they had as Cooper Flag was you. 402 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 2: My friend, are fantastic. May God bless you and your 403 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: covenant and safe travels. I'll call you next week. 404 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: All right, all right, appreciate it, Pa, Thanks for checking 405 00:22:58,800 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: in yep. 406 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 2: For sure, see you By Chris Finch, head coach of 407 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 2: the Minnesota Timberwolves. Thanks to second Harvest Heartland and two 408 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: Harvest dot org where this holiday season you can help 409 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 2: feed families if you're interested to Harvest dot Org. Chris 410 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 2: is a board member and it's very important to him, 411 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: and Chris is very important to us. And he's also 412 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 2: part of the TimberTech What's on Deck setlist which includes 413 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 2: vikes bits around the corner. And that was the penultimate 414 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 2: professional or excuse me three two. That was the penultimate 415 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 2: head coach interview this week for nine to noon Heinsey 416 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: John Hines at eleven forty two hours and change from 417 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 2: now we get Heinze during this cool week for nine 418 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 2: to noon with these coaches. 419 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 6: Can we get a coach off of a thrilling victory 420 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 6: here sooner rather than later please, I know right. 421 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: Penguins Intown though pj Off at thirty eight point loss 422 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: at kinnick O'Connell being made to sound like a new 423 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: age Genghis Khan with the way he treated Carson Wentz. 424 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 2: That was Tuesday. Benchi's lost a couple in a row 425 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 2: sounds a little tired and frustrated with that deepense. And 426 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 2: then Heinze the Christmas Colors have dropped seven of eight 427 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: and four in a row, and they get Sydney tonight. 428 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 4: Loserville sounds better in f them. 429 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: And that f them would be at them. One hundred 430 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 2: point three. Kfam can't wait to chat with Heinz. One 431 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: of our very favorites, John Eines, Coach of the Wild 432 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: at eleven forty. 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As a matter of fact, I 443 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 2: can't remember if I did this twenty twenty some odd 444 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 2: minutes ago, but just in case I did, and I'd 445 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: like to do it again. Okay, I personally on behalf 446 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: of me, not speaking for nine to now, but probably 447 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 2: speaking for nine to now, would like to thank a 448 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 2: lady named Emilyker, who writes about the vikings for the 449 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 2: Star Tribune a startribune dot com, because after waiting and 450 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 2: waiting for clarity on Josh Oliver, finally right in front 451 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 2: of a finish line, we got a Josh Oliver question 452 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 2: for the head coach from Emilyker, and the announcer. 453 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 4: Was happy winners Ville sounds better in FM. 454 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 2: And mad producer was happy because he was in search 455 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: of the same. 456 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 4: Question, winners Ville sounds better in FM. 457 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 2: And after hearing the same question about the same thing 458 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 2: asked fifteen different ways over fifteen minutes, all we wanted 459 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 2: to know was Josh Oliver wasn't playing this weekend. It's 460 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 2: all I was curious. I mean, we kind of knew 461 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: it was. It was coming down the road. 462 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 4: But Emily Ker, who Winnersville sounds better. 463 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 6: And FM, I do have some KO cuts for you, 464 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,719 Speaker 6: but I actually want to start here because looking at 465 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 6: the injury report, hearing him speak with the media yesterday, 466 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 6: we might be back. What do you mean, Damn, it's 467 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 6: Kinkle style. Then Kinkle style. That's all I got on 468 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 6: that Van Ginkle here he is talking about of course, 469 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 6: said there's a nerve, there's a potential nerve bit in 470 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 6: the neck. You got gink sound that was exacerbated by 471 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 6: a concussion. 472 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 2: Damn, thanks fam Yeah gets Saberis. 473 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 7: I land on my head? 474 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 475 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 7: You know that also reaggravated the back, and you know 476 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 7: it's just a it's been a long process and you 477 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 7: know I've been kid or with how I've been able 478 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 7: to handle this and going through the motions of you know, 479 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 7: progressing well so I can get back on the field 480 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 7: and you know, help this team win. 481 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 2: Has it been betted out whether Andrew Van Ginkle and 482 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 2: great job at the Van Ginkell sound. Has it been 483 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 2: betted out whether Van Ginkell actually has been able to 484 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 2: play for the last month, but they just have held 485 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 2: him back purposely so they could see more from Eric Wilson. 486 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 2: I always love that one. 487 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 6: Anyway, go ahead, well, I mean, in this case it 488 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 6: would be to see more from Dallas Turner. Oh good, yeah, 489 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 6: thank you to get more out of thank you last 490 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 6: year's first round pick three two. Has it been vetted 491 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 6: out that Van Ginkel actually could play a month ago, 492 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 6: but they really wanted to see more out of Tyler Batti. 493 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 2: Thank you. Thanks for the correction and the covenant correction 494 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 2: clean up. Can't wait. I know it's JJ season. Can't 495 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: wait to see number forty three back on the field. 496 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 6: Somebody on X by the way, and I hate not 497 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 6: being able to attribute them specifically. It was like a 498 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 6: Viking's fan page of some sort, somebody that loves the 499 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 6: team and posts about him all the time. I think 500 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 6: they've found the specific play where Van Ginkel he launches 501 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 6: like aunt trying to get his hand up on a 502 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 6: Caleb Williams pass, kind of gets undercut by by an 503 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 6: o Lineman I believe, and he flips completely on his head. 504 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 6: Oh the Van Giggle vertical. 505 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 2: Well you think that's on the tweet machine. It's somewhere 506 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 2: on the somewhere on the post machine. Oh, here it is. 507 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 2: And he he just lands flat on his head. 508 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 4: Ooh. 509 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 2: DeAndre Swift though, and so so swift that undercut him. 510 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, but in the end he's back, and it 511 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 6: sounds like he feels like his body is in a 512 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 6: good spot to play this weekend. So that is something 513 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 6: to celebrate as we get closer, doubt healthier. Uh to 514 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 6: the ko cuts, I got four of them. I'm going 515 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 6: to start. You know, you're talking about Emilyker and getting 516 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 6: an update on Josh Oliver. I was just hoping somebody 517 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 6: eventually would ask a question that wasn't about Carson, but 518 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 6: had to had to had to handle head to unload 519 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 6: the notebook on Carson Wentz. Yesterday I found this audio. 520 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 6: This is this is part of where my head was 521 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 6: at into Thursday night, after Thursday night and early on, 522 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,479 Speaker 6: just thinking about seeing Carson Wentz out there. The idea 523 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 6: that me as a Roob and the team, maybe we 524 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,479 Speaker 6: have different versions of what out of reach looks like 525 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 6: in a football game. 526 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 5: Kind of out of reach, but the way we operate 527 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 5: where we believe we're out of reach might be a 528 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 5: little different than how folks watching the game might believe 529 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 5: it to be. And you know, we've had some games where, 530 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 5: thank goodness, we had that mindset because we found a 531 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 5: way to win some of those. And that's just the 532 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 5: belief that the guys have, and when you got a 533 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 5: guy like that that's committed to play through something as 534 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 5: long as the medical staff doesn't give me any new 535 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 5: information to that, you know, that's kind of how that 536 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 5: took place. 537 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 6: I thought they were out of reach when I saw 538 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 6: that third and two and they were down fourteen to three, 539 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 6: And I believe it was an incomplete pass that was 540 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 6: bad at by a defender and Carson Wentz tried to 541 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 6: bat it down but he couldn't move his left arm, 542 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 6: and there was a lot of grimacing, and but the 543 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 6: team did not think they were out of reach. And 544 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 6: as a matter of fact, you get the pick, and 545 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 6: it took like it felt like it took half a 546 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 6: game to to traverse a twenty six yard drive to 547 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 6: get that touchdown in the third quarter, but again they 548 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 6: were it was a two score game. With that said, 549 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 6: I think another part of the battle in this entire 550 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 6: conversation that I am incredibly excited about to move on from, 551 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 6: is the pain on his face. 552 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 2: I'm watching it on TV. 553 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 6: You're up on the radio booth from like a mile 554 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,479 Speaker 6: away from the game action. So I don't know how 555 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 6: much of the TV copy you saw, Nate, but those 556 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 6: of us watching on the boob Tube. 557 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 2: We saw the pain in his face. He was asked 558 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: about it, you know. 559 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 5: I mean that's you know, I know the TV copies, 560 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 5: especially in those games where there's they see everything. You know, 561 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 5: you're you're trying to you know, you're trying to see 562 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 5: it as much as you can, and then really it 563 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 5: comes down to the dialogue with the player and you know, 564 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 5: after the medical staff's had a chance to check in 565 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 5: with him as well. So as visible as it is 566 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 5: to everybody, I understand that. But no, you don't always 567 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 5: get the you know, sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. 568 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 5: Sometimes you know, there might be conversation with the official 569 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 5: going on, There might be conversation with the Special Teams unit, 570 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 5: you know, regarding the punt, possible fakes, things like that. 571 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,239 Speaker 5: That things come up where you just can't be in 572 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 5: pure observation mode, especially the way that my role here 573 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 5: is as the head coach and the play caller and 574 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 5: having direct dialogue with Flow and Matt Daniels as well. 575 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 2: So I'd love to be. 576 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 5: Able to say that I see it all. That's where 577 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 5: you fall back on, you know, the great staff that 578 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 5: we do have, and you try to make the best 579 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 5: decision with all the information that you do have, with 580 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 5: the most important information being especially with a veteran player 581 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 5: who's been through, you know, quite a few things in 582 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 5: his career and has a total understanding of exactly, you know, 583 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 5: where his body's at and the commitment he made play. 584 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 5: You lean into that conversation. You know as much as 585 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 5: you do what the doctors are telling you about. 586 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: I believe that that was off a question asked by 587 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: the elite old school, best school Kevin Seaffert ESPN dot com, 588 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 2: and and when I was listening to it, I was like, mother, 589 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 2: it's it's that that That's one that I wish I 590 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 2: had asked Tuesday at Twin Cities Orthopedic Performance Center because 591 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 2: the television copy optics of Carson wentz uh clearly were 592 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 2: something O'Connell could not see and and everybody did see. 593 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 2: So then you know, all makeshift doctors get to go 594 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 2: into get to go into a mode where it's like, 595 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 2: you know that this has to happen right now. Then 596 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 2: Carson gets the opportunity to speak, and he's kind of like, 597 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 2: I'm not an idiot. Okay, yeah there was pain, but 598 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 2: I have I have the option to come out of 599 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 2: the game if I think I need to come out 600 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 2: of the game. So that kind of put a bow 601 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 2: on that. But but old school, best school unfurled that 602 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 2: question there, and I was like, mother, wish I had 603 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 2: asked that on Tuesday, Hey. 604 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 6: KO, what did you learn about JJ McCarthy over the 605 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 6: course of those two games in which we got to 606 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 6: see him play and then of course the subsequent weeks. 607 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 6: Now is rehab process and back to practice. 608 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's I think that's it's a great 609 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 5: point starting out first part of your question. I think 610 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 5: what we learned in the Chicago game was, you know, 611 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 5: he was able to overcome you know, and our team 612 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 5: was able to overcome a slower start than what we 613 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 5: hoped for the season. But then you know, going back 614 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 5: and watching that game, and you know, I watched it 615 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 5: with JJ recently, just looking at some of the principles 616 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 5: of how he how he played and when you know, 617 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 5: the moments in the second half where we were able 618 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 5: to think we generated one hundred and seventy yards in 619 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 5: the final seventeen minutes of the game, he had a 620 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 5: ton to do with that just by simply being efficient 621 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 5: with his feet and being accurate. Because of that and 622 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 5: you know, reading progressions and putting the ball in play 623 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 5: and throwing completions, and then we were able to run 624 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 5: the ball as well, and it kind of married all together. 625 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 5: I do think there was, you know, some unique circumstances 626 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 5: with that second game. I've said that before against Atlanta 627 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 5: from his family circumstances of being blessed with a child 628 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 5: that week and missing some practice time. As a matter 629 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 5: of fact, almost all of it besides that Friday practice, which, 630 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 5: as you guys know, is just not the significant amount 631 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 5: of preparation time that that you're looking for for a 632 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 5: young quarterback to then go out and take that practice 633 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 5: preparation to the game. 634 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,479 Speaker 2: So you hear that there, and what did you learn? 635 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 2: What did you get? Second game? 636 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 6: There is he looked back man, tough, tough things being 637 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 6: stacked up against the kid, And he was asked, is 638 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 6: there any part of your coach, do you regret playing 639 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 6: him in that second game? 640 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 2: Wasn't able to practice much? New Dad all. 641 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 6: That you can you be in hindsight mode and kind 642 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 6: of regret that. 643 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 5: You know. It's it's one of those things where we 644 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 5: know now that you know the a lot of the 645 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 5: things we're talking about it's you know, we know now 646 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,959 Speaker 5: or after the fact or things like that. I did 647 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 5: feel like when we got him back here on that Friday, 648 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 5: I did feel like he had a lot of juice 649 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 5: and he had a he had a pretty good day 650 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 5: that day. But that you know, transitioning to every phase 651 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 5: of a game plan for a game plan against a 652 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 5: good defense, and Atlanta's turned out to be a pretty 653 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 5: dark and good one defensively. I don't regret in any 654 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 5: way doing that, because he was also coming off of 655 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 5: you know, I believe he was the NFC Offensive Player 656 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 5: of the Week, and then he was healthy, and it's 657 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 5: hard to take that guy off the field at that 658 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 5: point where we had just you know, six days earlier, 659 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 5: seen him kind of carry the momentum of the end 660 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 5: of that game into the locker room where you know, 661 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 5: it was a pretty significant moment for a young player 662 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 5: in his first start. 663 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 2: In hindsight, can you pick your pa? 664 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 6: He orchestrates those three touchdown drives into the fourth, wins 665 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 6: the game, NFC Offensive Player of the Week. Everyone's picturing 666 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 6: you know, the the the the girl on his face 667 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 6: after that rushing touchdown. Team wins. Guy's out this week 668 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 6: because he had a kid. Could you picture how that 669 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 6: would have played into Week two against the Falcons, who's defense, 670 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 6: by the way, I think they're second yards. They get 671 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 6: some scoring issues because their offense turns them all over 672 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 6: a little bit. But now that I think, but I 673 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 6: never thought that was an option. I never even considered 674 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 6: it either, But now that I'm thinking about it, it's 675 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 6: like that would have been a disaster. People would have 676 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 6: lost their minds if he had pulled JJ McCarthy for 677 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 6: having a kid and not being able to practice and 678 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 6: therefore not being in the game. 679 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 2: Two things here, One with McCarthy returning this weekend, likewise, 680 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 2: for right tackle Brian O'Neill, I'm just really happy O'Neill's 681 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 2: going to play this week, just to silence those who 682 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 2: may think, you know, he's been completely healthy for a month, 683 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 2: but they just wanted to see what they had in 684 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,919 Speaker 2: Walter Rouse. I always love that one. And secondly, right 685 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 2: around that question you just played, there was a question following, 686 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 2: is there a threshold of pain? Oh? Yeah, a player 687 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 2: can have am I clomping on a bike? 688 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: Bite? 689 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 2: No? No, I don't have the I don't know a 690 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,919 Speaker 2: threshold of pain. Is there a threshold of pain, Kevin, 691 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 2: that a player can have that will cause you despite 692 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 2: it not you know, being that they still can play, 693 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 2: but they're an incredible amount of pain. What's that threshold? 694 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 2: And I felt Kevin left a really, really good because 695 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 2: that was at the end of the WENTZ thirteen minutes 696 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 2: talking about the game six days previous, but three two. 697 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 2: I thought he left a good one liner on the 698 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,839 Speaker 2: table there with all due respect, because he said, yes, 699 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 2: there is a threshold. Then he talked for about a 700 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 2: minute to describe the threshold. Yeah, it would have been 701 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 2: elite if he had just broken the ice and been like, yeah, 702 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 2: there's a threshold. It's called amputation. I always love that one. 703 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 2: It would have broken the ice if I had given 704 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 2: Emily a chance to get to get the Josh Oliver 705 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 2: question in about six minutes earlier. 706 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 6: There were a lot of Ivan Drago memes Rocky for 707 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 6: Style going around X over the weekend after that game. 708 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 6: If he dies, he dies, McCarthy not dying. And as 709 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 6: a matter of fact, he's healthy and he's confident. 710 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 3: Every time we step out there. You know, it's the 711 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 3: work that we put in every single week. It's the 712 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 3: trust in my teammates and coaches and all of that's 713 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 3: been at all time high. You know, it sucks not 714 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 3: being able to get the reps and you know, be 715 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 3: able to continue to progress all the fundamentals and all 716 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 3: the little things. But there was a lot of areas 717 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 3: that you know, I picked up and think I be 718 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 3: benefited from, you know, just watching and observing from the sideline. 719 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 3: So you know, extremely confident and ready to get after it. 720 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 6: A lot of observing. Now we're excited to see execution. 721 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 6: But how is that ankle As we stand here today 722 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 6: ready to go? 723 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 3: I feel like myself again. I feel like I, you know, 724 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 3: have those mobility things that I was concerned about, you 725 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 3: know going into last week, in the prior weeks. 726 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, ready to go. 727 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 6: So in the end, the team is looking more and 728 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 6: more ready to go as Christian dearisov full participant. Now, 729 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 6: I would not be surprised today, p I. I don't know 730 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 6: where a head's at on it. Where after only getting 731 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 6: nine snaps and kind of pulling back the reins a bit, 732 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 6: we might see the continued process of maybe he's a 733 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 6: non participant today and then maybe he's full again on Friday. 734 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,479 Speaker 6: As they continue to stick to their plan with him. 735 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 6: You mentioned right off the top, just what's up with 736 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 6: Josh Oliver. We found out he's likely not going to 737 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 6: play this week with the foot thing. Jeff Okuda sadly 738 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 6: another concussion situation with him. 739 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:27,800 Speaker 2: CJ. 740 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 6: Hamm with his hand, continues to not practice, but in 741 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:35,439 Speaker 6: the end Grenard was limited. You had Isaiah Rodgers let's 742 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 6: watch this with the shoulder, but Brian O'Neil returning to practice, 743 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,399 Speaker 6: So all in all, the team's getting healthier. PA into 744 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 6: this kiddies game on Sunday. 745 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 2: And it's a noon boom at f M one hundred 746 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 2: point three kfam. The Vikings come in do it three 747 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 2: and four taking on a team with a winning record. 748 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 2: Which teams with losing records can or will beat teams 749 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 2: with winning records? This weekend tom foolery and nonsense is 750 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,760 Speaker 2: something only you can expect from US. US being nine 751 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 2: to noon in the National Football League, the question being 752 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 2: which teams with losing records can or will beat teams 753 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 2: with winning records? O fun little baby game crafted by 754 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 2: nine to noon. It's a fun little baby game that 755 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 2: we may do it the Friday Football Feast sometime and 756 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 2: include Alex Lewis of the Athletic the Athletic dot com. Oh, 757 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 2: by the way, forgot to tweet us yesterday. But this 758 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 2: is broadcasting, that's narrow casting. Three two. The feast is 759 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 2: at Buffalo Wild Wings chan Hassen tomorrow and if anybody's 760 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 2: interested in joining, this would be a FIFA Airness and 761 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 2: Feast act. The chan Hassen location is on the smaller side, 762 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 2: So if you want to come to the Friday Football 763 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 2: Feast of Buffalo Wild Wings chan Assen tomorrow, just know 764 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,919 Speaker 2: that that does the seeding specifically, you know, in front 765 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,439 Speaker 2: of where the table is, where we do the show 766 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 2: and stuff like that. It's one of the smaller ones. 767 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 2: It's festive, it's lively, it's loud, and it's going to 768 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 2: be fun despite the record and the vibe. The Chan 769 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 2: location rocks, channlocation rocks. But it's on the smaller side. 770 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 2: So if you want to join and you want to 771 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 2: get what we would call a primo seed, I would 772 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 2: arrive a little on the early side. Friday Football Feast 773 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 2: tomorrow nine to noon KFA and Buffalo Wild wins chan Assen. 774 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 2: All right, So with this new baby game, no point spreads, 775 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 2: No point spreads, all right, No point spreads in case 776 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 2: the perceived adversaries have X ray contact lenses. I always 777 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,879 Speaker 2: love that one. Just losers and winners, and there they are. 778 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 2: Minnesota is three and four taking on Detroit five and two. 779 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 2: So these are teams with losing records against teams with 780 00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 2: winning records, and can or will the teams with losing 781 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 2: records win win the game outright? Or maybe it's a 782 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 2: big fat no, they got no shot. So the Vikings 783 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 2: would be the first one, three and four, five and 784 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 2: two a prediction. There will be facets of the Vikings 785 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 2: performance that will be what we have come to expect. 786 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,760 Speaker 2: Tension is real when you lose to in a row, 787 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 2: and the last one was the worst and in standalone fashion, right, 788 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 2: if JJ keeps them off balance with his running and 789 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 2: a running game and gains confidence early on third down 790 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 2: when it's loud, they're going to fight these kiddies right 791 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 2: to the wire. I believe that will happen. So I 792 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 2: lean they can beat Detroit. Not they will beat Detroit. 793 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 2: I lean they can. Yeah, you got anything. 794 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 6: They need to get pressure up the middle more so 795 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 6: this weekend maybe than any of the previous four losses. 796 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 6: You look at the ability of a jailing hurts. You 797 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 6: look at Justin Herbert Rogers, good example of a statue. 798 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 6: But this weekend a hard graven Allen game where you 799 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,839 Speaker 6: can push an immobile Jared Goff to the outside, get 800 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 6: him out of rhythm, get him off his spot. The 801 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 6: Vikings certainly can beat the Lions. That's where I'm at. Yeah, 802 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 6: we're in unison. 803 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 2: The Cincinnati Bengals three and five, Chicago's four and three. 804 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 2: This game's at Cincinnati. Games at Cincinnati, right, Cincinci at Cincy. Yeah, 805 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna I'm just gonna lay this out here. 806 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 2: If you got anything novel to add to it, or 807 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,399 Speaker 2: a disagreement by all means, jump in. It's it's not 808 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 2: can Cincinnati win. Cincinnati will win three and five, Bengals 809 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 2: will beat the Chicago Bears, making them four and four. 810 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,399 Speaker 2: You agree, I agree with you. They will win the game. 811 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 2: Tennessee is one in seven and is hosting the five 812 00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 2: and three LA Chargers. Now, I believe Apple Valley Heights 813 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,800 Speaker 2: cols Trey Pipkins, who was active last game but didn't play, 814 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 2: he'll play this game, bookending Joe Alt since he's won 815 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,240 Speaker 2: and seven. I mean Tennessee's one and seven. This ain't happening. 816 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 2: Tennessee won't win, and I don't think Tennessee can win. 817 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 2: The La Chargers got some three dollars, got some three 818 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 2: dollars bill to them. Okay, so just be careful for 819 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 2: those of you foolish enough to lay that money line. 820 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 2: Atlanta's three and four at six and two New England, 821 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:34,320 Speaker 2: Atlanta losers three and four, six and two, New England. 822 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 2: What do you think there is? 823 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 6: If Pennix is playing this week, they can beat the 824 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 6: New England. They can beat the New England Patriots mentioned 825 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 6: the last segment. I think their defense their first or 826 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 6: second in the NFL in yards allowed, again mitigating turnovers 827 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 6: and bad mistakes. But Beijon can get off against that team. 828 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 6: I know everyone's louting Drake May and they should. And 829 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 6: Rabel's team is strong man and they've won five in 830 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 6: a row. Totally get it. I think the Falcons absolutely 831 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 6: can beat the Patriots this weekend. 832 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on the can vibe. I mean, did you do? 833 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: Yes? 834 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 2: We can see Atlanta at three and five? All right, 835 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,759 Speaker 2: the Falcons Panics are not three and five. Yes, I 836 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 2: can see that. It's New England at seven and two. 837 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,439 Speaker 2: I mean, it's six and three just feels like more 838 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 2: of the right through nine for New England than seven 839 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 2: and two. I'm with you. I think Atlanta can win 840 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,879 Speaker 2: Niners five and three at Giants two and six. Now 841 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers are as banged up or more 842 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 2: banged up than the Vikings recently were. We know how 843 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 2: bad it can get here. This is a fat no 844 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 2: for me when it comes to the losers will win 845 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 2: or can win? I think it's a fat no. And 846 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 2: here's why the New York Giants lost a certain and 847 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 2: important vibe in that scataboo bit. I mean, the vibe 848 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 2: just fell off the cliff with this squad when he 849 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 2: got hurt. They were so sad. I actually say the 850 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,839 Speaker 2: New York Giants cannot win this game. What about you? 851 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to say they will win. 852 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 6: And I think what we've seen the Niners losers two 853 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 6: of their last three, is they are as injured, if 854 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 6: not more injured, than the Vikings. And we can say 855 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,320 Speaker 6: Shanahan's as good as it gets, and he puts people 856 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,360 Speaker 6: in spots, but how long can you do it? This 857 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 6: is this is a problem really of just gradual attrition 858 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 6: and degradation to a point now where they are really struggling. 859 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,359 Speaker 6: They looked hideous in Houston last week and at this 860 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 6: weekend against the Giants as hurt as the Giants are scataboo. 861 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 2: You mentioned their secondary has been ravaged. 862 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 6: That defensive front is going to harass the bleep out 863 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 6: of the Niners this weekend. And I'm saying that the 864 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,880 Speaker 6: Giants will actually stand tall and beat the Niners at home. 865 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,839 Speaker 2: As a two and a half point dog crowd love, 866 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:04,280 Speaker 2: and that Houston is three and four, that's the losing 867 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 2: record hosting Denver, which is six and two. I'm I'm 868 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 2: hitting the yes, the underdog will win this game. The loser, well, 869 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 2: I don't even if they're an underdog, but the team 870 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,799 Speaker 2: at the losing record point and a half dog will 871 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,359 Speaker 2: win the half favored over the Broncos. Excuse me, yea, 872 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 2: I take the team at the losing record. I see 873 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 2: Denver more six and three than seven and two. Good 874 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 2: win versus San Francisco. Last game for Houston. But Dimiico 875 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 2: beat his former boss. You know that Houston beating the Niners. 876 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,359 Speaker 2: That is, Dimiico beat his former boss. So they were 877 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 2: all wound up for that and everything. So that plays 878 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 2: into it. Believe it or not. I'm it's gonna be 879 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,319 Speaker 2: lowercase will for me, not all Caps. But yes, I 880 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,800 Speaker 2: think the losing team will beat the team with a 881 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 2: winning record. 882 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 6: I think it's a fat can. They can beat the Broncos. 883 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 2: I do think. 884 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 6: I think this is gonna be kind of a lower scoring, 885 00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,360 Speaker 6: ugly game. I mean that Broncos defense and CJS trout 886 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 6: the ups and downs with what we're seeing really the 887 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 6: last year and a half, I think the Texans can. 888 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:10,320 Speaker 2: Win this game. Las Vegas is two and five hosting Jacksonville, 889 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 2: which is four and three. New Orleans is one and 890 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 2: seven at the five and two LA Rams. We have 891 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 2: some Tyler Shuck related terrorism into this game. From what 892 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,360 Speaker 2: I understand, yes we do. This is the Rams will 893 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 2: win this game. New Orleans can't win this game, right, No, 894 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,279 Speaker 2: I don't think they can win this game. The I 895 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:36,800 Speaker 2: mean just the defense. 896 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 6: I mean Kyron Williams might have trouble getting around the 897 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 6: park on Sunday, but other than that, I mean the 898 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:42,840 Speaker 6: Saints are. 899 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 2: Disaster losers, winners baby game nine to noon and to finally, 900 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 2: three and five Washington is hosting the five and two 901 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 2: Super Chickens. This is I don't know if Daniels is playing, 902 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,800 Speaker 2: but this is kind of a This is a trickier 903 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,879 Speaker 2: one for me. Do we see Seattle as a six 904 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 2: and two operation or closer to a five and three operation? 905 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 2: Do we think Washington will fall to three and six? 906 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,839 Speaker 2: That's kind of the baseline of where I start there 907 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 2: before I look at injuries and stuff like that. 908 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 6: But what you got, Well, Jaden's ready to return. McLaurin 909 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 6: I think is ready to be back out again. Oh wow, 910 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:22,919 Speaker 6: So they just continue to be hurt. 911 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: Man. 912 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 6: I like the fact that Washington is at home. I 913 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 6: can't say will on this one to the same level 914 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 6: of confidence. What Darnold's doing with with Jackson Smith and 915 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 6: Jig was unbelievable. And the defense has been part of 916 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,919 Speaker 6: the problem. I think in some respects, I'm gonna say 917 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 6: they can win. 918 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say the underdog, the team with the losing 919 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 2: record will win. If you tell me Daniels is back, 920 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,319 Speaker 2: we got debo under contract, I mean, and that they 921 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 2: just I mean, if you go to three and six 922 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,319 Speaker 2: here like likewise, you know eventually for the Minnesota Vikings 923 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 2: or are three and four, I mean, you get to 924 00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 2: three and six here. Holy cow, You're in a lot 925 00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,279 Speaker 2: of trouble in the NFC. So I think the desperation 926 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 2: factor is absolutely lopsided. One way question is can they 927 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 2: handle it. I think they do, and I think the 928 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 2: team with the losing record beats the team with the 929 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:19,720 Speaker 2: winning record. It's ten o'clock. Good morning. Nacho Lieber joins 930 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:20,240 Speaker 2: US next