1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,240 Speaker 1: Kay Sports hour or two. 2 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 2: But little Brian Grant Smith here with you, Jimmy Palm 3 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 2: free is James Palmer best hair in the business, is 4 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 2: going to join. 5 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 3: Us bottom of the hour. Yeah, he's allowed to join 6 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 3: us outside of the season. 7 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Sweet, Okay, So there we go. 8 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 3: We'll keep we'll hammer that home until Broncos season starts back. 9 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: Up, and then he's got contractual obligations. As far the 10 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 2: best man, he's so good, he really is. Several of 11 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: you reached out asking about the cayenn pepper stuff right 12 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: after I said that in the last segment. So I 13 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: will tell you I use and this is not an 14 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: endorsement or anything like that, because this is not paid. 15 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 2: Just for those of you asking, I use VVO New 16 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: which is vi iv O, and you the Cayenne pepper 17 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: soft jails. You get two hundred and forty of them 18 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: for like twenty five bucks. 19 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: I think it is. 20 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: You need to take to them a day, so you 21 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: get a three month supply for twenty five bucks. 22 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: If they do want to be an endorser. 23 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 2: If they would love to, I would love to endorse them. 24 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: That's a problem I use and it works. So I'll 25 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: just tell you that and after. 26 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: Your explanation off air, I will start using it as well. 27 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just saying it's it has many it has 28 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: multiple health benefits and you know, so there you go. 29 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: If you want to use some of my routine there, 30 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: you are more than welcome to do so. And like 31 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: I said, I'm happy to help as far as that 32 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 2: kind of stuff goes. Five six six nine zero is 33 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: the text line in CAA tournament going on, marks Man 34 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: as great as your bracket busted yet. 35 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it's fully busted, but it's getting there. 36 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 3: I had BYU winning last night and their next round. Yeah, 37 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 3: I did have that one. That's why all I'm going 38 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 3: to hurt me. But all my big teams are still 39 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: in there. Iowa State I've gotten the final four and 40 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: then and demolished. Now they lost one of their early 41 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: in the game, so we'll see. We'll have to monitor 42 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 3: that lit luck too horrible. I haven't seen any reports 43 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: on it. Afterwards. It looked like he just rolled an ankle, 44 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: so we'll see how he gets back from that. 45 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: But Utah State, well, I was just gonna say, Miami 46 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: Tennessee's beating the brakes off Miami of Ohio right sixty 47 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: to thirty six. 48 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: But Utah State. 49 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: Is giving Villanova everything they want right now, that's tied 50 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: at sixty seven, about seven twenty left to go in 51 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: the second half there, and we just saw Villanova get 52 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: to get a big three to make it. 53 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: Seventy sixty seven? Can we turn it up? 54 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: Dates are sented by Infinity and Dave Smith Motors, low 55 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: prices that are hard to beat on a ram, cheap GMC, 56 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: and Chevrolet. 57 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: I've got Utah State winning this game. My brother in 58 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 3: law got his doctorate degree from there. You even call 59 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: it a doctorate degree, just call it a doctorate. He 60 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 3: got his doctorate there. So I'm pulling for them. But man, 61 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: I just love this time of year, Like this is 62 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 3: the best. Now, I don't mind my bracket getting busted 63 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 3: if it's for a good upset, like it's that's worth 64 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 3: it to me. 65 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I mean if it's a fun you know, 66 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: like the high point thing. If they were to go 67 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: on a big run, I wouldn't be mad at that. Now, 68 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: obviously they're playing Arkansas, who I have to win the championship, 69 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: so I would be bad at it, but I also 70 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 2: wouldn't be bad at it you know what I mean, 71 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 2: right for that Cinderella story that you don't see is 72 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: offering anymore. 73 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm so, I'm so yeah, I'm still here for that. 74 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: So, you know, as we look at I'm just trying 75 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 2: to think which which division is Villanova Utah Stadium? 76 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: Are they in the West? I will have to go 77 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: back and look. I can never remember which was. It's 78 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: not the West. 79 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: They gotta be in the South, maybe because I'm trying 80 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: to remember who which one I had going on? 81 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: Going on from there? Oh well, we'll figure it out 82 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: here five six sixpence. There's a text line. 83 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: Appreciate all the Chuck Norris jokes that keep they are 84 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: in the West rolling in Chuck Norris killed two stones 85 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: with one bird. 86 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: I love it. 87 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: Uh My Pharae was that he didn't actually pass away. 88 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: He was just going down there to visit Death's mom. 89 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, that's okay, well done. 90 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: I was a fan of jokes, as a fan of 91 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 2: mom jokes, and someone who may or may not have 92 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 2: gotten in trouble a few times for some of his 93 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 2: own mom jokes. Yeah, I mean, you know, creating what 94 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: wrap beefs and all that kind of stuff. As we 95 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: talked about the other day. Uh, I just it's good 96 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: to see good to see some of that back. I just, 97 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: you know, Chuck Norris was kind of the original meme, 98 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: I guess, one of the one of the first real 99 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: memes that went around, and then everybody was kind of 100 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: in on and there's I mean, there's so many of 101 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: them out there. The Iranian Mullas were in less than 102 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: twenty four hours after the passing of Chuck Norris. 103 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: There are no more virgins in heaven. 104 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: Chuck Norris's Gmail account is Gmail at Chuck Norris dot com. 105 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 3: Right because it's about him. 106 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: Chuck Norris wants through a grenade that killed six enemy 107 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: soldiers and then the grenade exploded. Somebody did the uh 108 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: the meme where Sean Bean uh plays Borne Mere in 109 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 2: Lord of the Rings, where he's got the fingers and 110 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: the one does not simply you know, one does not 111 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: simply walk into Mortor. That that meme somebody changed it 112 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: to Chuck Norris simply walked into Mortor. 113 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: I remember my dad was obsessed with Walker Texas Ranger 114 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 3: when I was a kid, so we watched there was 115 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 3: a lot of Chuck Norris in our household. 116 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: Z that came back with the theme song. 117 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 2: He'd never heard it before, so he came back with 118 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: the theme song, Yeah, well before his time. Yeah, somebody's 119 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 2: got the eye of sore on, Who's got my ring? 120 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 2: And then it's Chuck Norris I do And it's like 121 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: it suits you. 122 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, you just have it. Lots of lots of great ones, 123 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: you know. That's that's just They're all just good. I 124 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: I just love that stuff. 125 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: And I love the fact that you know, Chuck who 126 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: was uh a absolutely excellent martial artist, one of the 127 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: one of the top martial artists of all time. Uh, 128 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: a very mediocre actor, but he knew what he was 129 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: and didn't shy away from that, like played to it. 130 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: You know, what was the what was the workout equipment 131 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 3: that he always on the. 132 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,119 Speaker 2: Commercials for uh it came out the the same time 133 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: as it came out, didn't come out at the same time. 134 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: It's like the George Forman grill. I don't remember exactly 135 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 2: what it was. It was like an excellent jam total Jim, 136 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: That's what it was. That was both because it it 137 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: had become like bowflex or something. 138 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 3: It might have maybe he sold out make a little money, 139 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: or it. 140 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: Was similar to bow Flex or whatever it was he 141 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: did the Yeah, the Total Homes I remember that, yeah, yeah, 142 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: because I was right around the same time that Suzanne 143 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 2: Summers did the thigh Master. 144 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a little better. Commercials. 145 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, just saying, so, man, where's Chuck Norris pajamas? 146 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: Thanks for the seven one nine there? Oh my goodness. Yeah, 147 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: a lot of these, A lot of these A grat 148 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 2: can't read some of these. But anyway, we do have 149 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 2: James Palmer coming up bottom of the hour. We got 150 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 2: Parker Gabriel coming up in the next hour showan quiller 151 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 2: as well. 152 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: Get a chance to talk to those guys about now 153 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: what it is the Broncos have done overall. 154 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: A lot of it was standing pat with their guys 155 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: and a team that went to the AFC Championship. 156 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: Some of it was was ads. 157 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 2: Obviously, the Jaalen Wattle trade a bit of a blockbuster there. 158 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: I think that speaks to what the Broncos thought of 159 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 2: this draft and what they thought of what they could 160 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: get out of Jalen Wattle. We talked a little bit 161 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 2: about how that probably spells the end of Courtland Sutton 162 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 2: after this season. There's just no way you can you 163 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 2: could afford to pay two wide receivers that amount of money? 164 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 3: Well, could they make it like, Hey, we're gonna give 165 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: you a two year deal and we're gonna make everything 166 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 3: frontloaded and a signing bonus. And I do have the 167 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 3: richest owners and in sports, I don't think there's I 168 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: mean not really, not the way the cap is set up. 169 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 3: I mean, both those wide receivers cap numbers next year. 170 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 3: Waddles will be twenty seven million because they did that 171 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: for this year and so that you can't really do 172 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 3: it again. And then Sutton's cap number next year is 173 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: twenty eight and a half million dollars. Damn you just 174 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 3: I mean that's fifty million dollars, one sixth of your 175 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: salary cap between two receivers. 176 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: Your favorite team is already familiar with this concept. Yeah, 177 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: and we see how well it's working for them, so 178 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: that Stati Bengals had it, got their entire defense in 179 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: order to do that. 180 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: I just don't think you're doing that for Sutton and 181 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: you know Waddle, So this feels like it's all in 182 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: this year. 183 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: It really does. Then that's really where it's leading with that. 184 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: It's like he's this at the end of the day, 185 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: is this the Denver Bronco saying we're all in. We're 186 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: all in on the final two years of Bonix's rookie 187 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: contract window. 188 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then with all the moves that it does 189 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: feel like that, like they're paying their guys the ones 190 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: they wanted to keep around and they're bringing in a 191 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: versatile weapon for bo to help him progress to the 192 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: next level. In year three, I think Jalen Waddele completely 193 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: changes everything about this offense. It opens up court on 194 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: those middle over the middle routes that he always is running. 195 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 3: It opens up the running game, It opens up Evan Ingram, 196 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 3: it opens up I think. 197 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,559 Speaker 1: We're going to see a big year from Evan Ingram. 198 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 3: I know everyone's down on him after you know, less 199 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: than stellar first year with the Broncos, But I think 200 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: his relationship with Davis Webb and the addition of Jalen 201 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 3: Waddel and just another year with BO, I think I 202 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: think we could see, you know, seventy five eighty catches 203 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 3: instead of forty five to fifty from Ingram. 204 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: I would sixty is probably the number I think we're 205 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: looking at. But again, there's also the balls to go 206 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: around kind of thing. At that point, you know Ingram, 207 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 2: I think you'll see a lot more yardage. 208 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: Out of what it is that he does too. And 209 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: we saw that and flashes, Yes, you. 210 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: Had flashes of it. Then you had flashes where him 211 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: and bus weren't on the same page. Yeah, you know, 212 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: And so I think that's going to be I think 213 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: that it will benefit him in a lot of ways 214 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 2: when you have a wattle that is, you know, pitting 215 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 2: a safety back and over the top. I just never 216 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: I remember my mom the car over laughing when the 217 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 2: lady seriously sings pissing the night away, not realizing that 218 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 2: that's a British uh phrase for hanging out or drinking 219 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 2: or whatever, right, and yeah, which is just like, is 220 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: that lady really talking about urinating? 221 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: What you would have listened to? 222 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 4: Mom? 223 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 2: You don't get it, mom. 224 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: Oh. 225 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 4: There were. 226 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, fifteen and fifteen people in that band and 227 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 2: they finally split up and twenty twelve. So for fifteen 228 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 2: years before that song and fifteen years after that song, 229 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 2: they were a band for thirty years. 230 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: Of fifteen people. 231 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 3: Of like fifteen people, the money doesn't go as far 232 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 3: when there's fifteen people. 233 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, i'd really you know it really doesn't. And 234 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 2: the original band only had like three members in it. 235 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 2: It just kept growing and then they were, like I said, 236 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: they were like these anarchists that were living They were 237 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: all just living in this house together and making us 238 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 2: and I don't know how that song you know, exactly 239 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: came about, but they were anarchists, sort of communists, people 240 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: all living together in the little commune and make and 241 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: made a band. 242 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: And that that's what happened. Weird trivia that you needed 243 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: to know, so we talk about you. 244 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 3: That's what you provide, you know, since you're not a 245 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 3: real insider, right. 246 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, since I'm that's Is that confirmed yet or not confirmed? 247 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 3: I think I think one of our competitors confirmed that 248 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 3: on Twitter this morning. 249 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: I think people who whose total audience is half the 250 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: size of the number of people I've blocked on Twitter 251 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: probably shouldn't make comments on who's paying attention to what. 252 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: And almost got double digit. 253 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 2: Likes almost almost congrats on that engagement. 254 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 3: I did read that whole thread one of the first 255 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 3: things I did this morning, because I don't have Twitter, 256 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 3: but I have the Koa account, right and I pull 257 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 3: it up just to look for stories to to prep 258 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 3: for the show, and gosh. I spent you know, a 259 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 3: good fifteen twenty minutes reading that threat and some other things, 260 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 3: and I was like, God, people just love to hate. 261 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 2: They really do let them. It's sickening. Haters are just 262 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: a more engaged. It's like, no of your fan base, 263 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 2: they really are. I gotta quit throwing that word around 264 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 2: fan base. Well, the one preceding it, there's gonna be uh, 265 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 2: there's gonna be somebody that figures. 266 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: Out what I'm doing after a while. Well, somebody they 267 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: figured out I got them to delete it. 268 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 2: Uh, somebody did figure it out, what you know, the 269 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: triple and toddre there and how I got him to deleted. 270 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 3: But yeah, gotta be honest with your with your loved ones. 271 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 272 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: And if anyone, and I mean anyone should be a 273 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: living example of that. 274 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: Well you are sometimes a little too honest. 275 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 4: See. 276 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: I can make fun of myself too, James Palmer, we 277 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: come back here. I can't wait sports you picked? Uh utah, 278 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: I did you just told See, Yeah, I think I 279 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: had I had nova in that one. 280 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 2: I don't know that I had nova go beyond that one, 281 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: but I had nova in that one, which although after 282 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: I saw the halftime interview with the Nova head coach. 283 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: I was like, all right, I just they lose. Did 284 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: you see that? I did not threw his coaching staff 285 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: under the bus, said he was gonna fire him. 286 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: Nah, yeah, that's serious. I'll help the clip. I've got 287 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: the clip. I'll up the clip here, you know a 288 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: little bit. 289 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: Let me tell us what to the KWA comes with 290 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: hotline know and bring on our guy, James Palmer. 291 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: James, how you doing, buddy? 292 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 4: Well? I don't like this Villanova wildcat slander. As a 293 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 4: man who grew up down the street from Villanova University, 294 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 4: I don't really care for it. But I don't care 295 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 4: how they I don't care for how they're playing either. 296 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 4: But I'm with coach on halftime. By the way, right, 297 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 4: how have you not seen this? This is the biggest 298 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 4: thing out there. I'm firing not now, oh yeah, right now, 299 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 4: they're done. I'm going on a new staff. Yeah. 300 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 1: At halftime, you just dropping the right. 301 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 2: It's like, okay, this is this is they. 302 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: Say halftime interviews are worthless. I mean, come on, that's 303 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: not anymore? Got a love it, James. 304 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 2: Broncos have had an interesting off season, retaining basic the 305 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 2: entire team. They finally make the outside move. They make 306 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: the trade. They go get Jalen Waddle. As we look 307 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 2: at this thing, you know, it looks like a run back, 308 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: but we needed one more piece, a piece they could 309 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 2: have had at the trade deadline last year, not to 310 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: not to what. 311 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: Do we think of what the Broncos have done this offseason? 312 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 4: Well, I think that honestly a couple of things that 313 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 4: jump out of me of this on all the shows 314 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 4: that I had on Bleacher Report and The Athletic and everything, 315 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 4: I was saying for a really long time, this is 316 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 4: not a good free agency class, like top the bottom, 317 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 4: it's not an outstanding free agency class. And everything I 318 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 4: kept peering around the league was teams that know what 319 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 4: they're doing are going to trade for players. Trades are 320 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 4: going to be very popular during this free agency period 321 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 4: because it's just the way that a lot of these 322 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 4: teams viewed the landscape, and Denver was really kind of 323 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 4: no different. And so what I view of what they've 324 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,599 Speaker 4: done is we were a playmaking piece away on a 325 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 4: specifically on offense to get this team to take a 326 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 4: major jump. And they knew this for some time. I 327 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 4: heard you say, you know at the deadline, Yeah, they 328 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 4: had those conversations at the deadline with Miami. I remember 329 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 4: being on going there's the people au in the league 330 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 4: and think never may make a splash. That was waddle and 331 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 4: it ended up not happening. But they've known this entire 332 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 4: time that they needed a legit playmaker and that is 333 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 4: what they went out and got. And I think what 334 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 4: they did in doing so was where you were picking. 335 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 4: I don't think you get any sort of certainty now. 336 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 4: I think this is a good wide receiver class, right 337 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 4: me and Steve Smith break it down our show a 338 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 4: ton with all of these guys. I think it's a 339 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 4: really deep wide receiver class. Do you have the certainty 340 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 4: of getting that playmaker in the backhead of round one? 341 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 4: I don't think you do. I think the fourth round 342 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 4: swap when we get into it was really valuable to 343 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 4: Denver and I know that they think that, but I 344 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 4: think what they felt is that we had a really, 345 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 4: really good team last year. We really did, and we're 346 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 4: not going to reach an overpay and free agency. And 347 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 4: George Payton kind of hinted that to me at the combine, 348 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 4: that we're not going to be overly aggressive in free agent. 349 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 4: See in some of the numbers over the last couple 350 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 4: of years. You know, people want your team to be 351 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 4: aggressive and then you get upset when the contract's bad 352 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 4: in a couple of years. That happens all the time, 353 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 4: and the Denver kind of avoided it. 354 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think we're talking with James palmerck coast 355 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 2: to scoop city over there at the Athletic. 356 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: I think that's part of the thing. 357 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: It's interesting to watch how the fan base was sort 358 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: of melting down with this word aggressive because the owner, 359 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: Pennar had come out and talked about being aggressive and 360 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 2: Peyton didn't. 361 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: That's not what he said. 362 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: George Peyton said, will be aggressive in our process, and 363 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: I think people kind of glombed onto that and thought 364 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: there was going to be some sort of spending spree 365 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 2: and free agency. I think you're right. They did it smart, 366 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: bring your guys back. They kept the cost controls in 367 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 2: the future down. You got a Bonex extension coming up. 368 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: I think George Payton's one of the best general managers 369 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: in football, but this fan base was read to run 370 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: him out on a rail just a week ago. 371 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 4: I agree with that. I think there are multiple teams. 372 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 4: I think there's one in Miami, and there's one in 373 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 4: Arizona right now that have been studying what George did 374 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 4: to get this organization out of the dead money with 375 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 4: Russell Wilson, Like these teams are now going to have 376 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 4: to do with a you know what Denver did, and 377 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 4: they're hoping that they can, you know, hit on a 378 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 4: quarterback and hit on some guys in middle rounds and 379 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 4: fine starters and do contracts early. And you know, I 380 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 4: mentioned you mentioned the boat, Nick Deel. I think Pat's 381 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 4: gonna probably need to deal relatively soon. He's grossly underpaid 382 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 4: now in terms of where that quarterback market has gone. 383 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 4: And I think he's been really good in terms of 384 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 4: how he handles this this roster financially. And I think 385 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 4: they're really good in developing a strong middle class, and 386 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 4: that is really overlooked, in my opinion, with a lot 387 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 4: of team building in the NFL. There's a lot of 388 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 4: teams that are top heavy and then their middle class 389 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 4: is just weak. And that's how you win football games. 390 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 4: Depth is how you win football games, and players like 391 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 4: Justin Schernad help you win football games. When Drag Greenlaw 392 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 4: the free agent splash you wanted to make last year 393 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 4: can't stay on the field, and so I do think 394 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 4: George is one of the better, more calculated general managers 395 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 4: in football. I do know that they had specific targets. 396 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 4: Were they going to be aggressive at the running back market, 397 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 4: whether it's Kenneth Walker or Travis how do you say 398 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 4: his name? Now? 399 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 2: It's at sheending now him a devon ed Chine. I 400 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: can't ever tell. 401 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 4: Man, I know now now it's like we're confusing two 402 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 4: of them. And I never thought we'd be down this road, 403 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 4: but they were they aggressive towards them, I think so. 404 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 4: But I think, as you mentioned Ben, honestly, like they 405 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 4: were within reason right, like we'll go after these guys, 406 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 4: but we had numbers in our head. We're not going 407 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 4: to oh like Halie Rosen was like that with the 408 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 4: Jayen Jen and Phillip Steel, like I want this guy, 409 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 4: but I'm not going over this. And so that's the 410 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 4: way a lot of general managers work that I think 411 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 4: are really good at this. And you sit there and go, 412 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 4: why aren't they making moves? And it's like, now they're 413 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 4: making moves. They're just knowing that there's going to be 414 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 4: other teams that are going to overpay in free agency. 415 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 4: And they're just they're just going to hold a hard 416 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 4: line in the same. 417 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 2: Tyler James Palmer The Ghost of eighty nine with Steve Smith. Yeah, 418 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 2: I think that's I think it's It was interesting last 419 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: week because as you see people melting down about this, Oh, 420 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 2: we couldn't give. 421 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: Up the extra three minutes because a price point for. 422 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: The Broncos was like ten million apy and of course 423 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: they got the twelve point seventy five. And that's that's 424 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 2: even with the added benefit of Travis kind of wanting 425 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: to go to New Orleans. But you saw that, you 426 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 2: saw sort of the the reaction. 427 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: That we couldn't spend the extras we got the richest donors. 428 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, I can tell which one of you people 429 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: commenting on this have never been the household budget person. 430 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 4: My wife crushes at that. It's not me, So I'm 431 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 4: the one. Maybe I'm one of the ones that's like, 432 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 4: what do you mean another two million? You know the 433 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 4: buss I should I should reclarify the Palmers are not 434 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 4: dealing in like another two million, guys. That's that was no. 435 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: I was with James. 436 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 2: You're covering dinner next time, dude, That's right. 437 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 4: I mean come on. But like it is true, like 438 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 4: there are certain certain numbers that you're willing to go 439 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 4: over and there's certain ones you're not. Like I mean, 440 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 4: the Tyer Linderbaum one is obviously that blew the doors 441 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 4: off of you know, the Center Market and changed kind 442 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 4: of where things are headed there a little bit. But 443 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 4: you look at where the organization is. You have to 444 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 4: look at where you are as a team. I remember 445 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 4: talking to John Spytech at the Combine and it was like, 446 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 4: we have to be very sober with where we're at. 447 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 4: We're several years away here, like Plint Kubiak is not 448 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 4: walking into a roster that's anything like the one he 449 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 4: just left. Now, you overpay there because you are in 450 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 4: the start of a build and you want to make 451 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 4: sure it makes your high draft pick from a year 452 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 4: ago and Ash Gente better. You want to make sure 453 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 4: it makes your number one overall pick better. Maybe it's 454 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 4: a force multiplier, but like every team, the reason I 455 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 4: bring up the Raiders are in a different position as 456 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 4: an organization. They are in a completely different spot than 457 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 4: say where Denver is. I think fans should be sitting 458 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 4: here going we don't have a whole lot of holes 459 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 4: on our roster. We don't need to be overly aggressive 460 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 4: in free agency. But I always knew trades were going 461 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 4: to be the way that this was going to go 462 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 4: down in terms of some of the biggest moves and 463 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 4: some of the teams that were going to be the smartest, 464 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 4: and I think Demver actually acted as. 465 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: Such that I do James Paulller joining us at James 466 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 2: Palmer TV on Twitter, it's fascinating. 467 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if. 468 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 2: It's disrespectful or not, but it's certainly fascinating to look 469 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,479 Speaker 2: at the odds sports books on the Broncos to win 470 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 2: to win the AFC, depending on which book you look at, 471 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 2: the either fifth or seventh to win the AFC, even 472 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 2: after the Wattle move. I mean, I sort of get 473 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 2: it if you want to put him third or fourth, 474 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 2: but seventh, that seems ludicrous to me. 475 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, seventh's a little rough. I completely agree with that, 476 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 4: But this is a team where I think there are 477 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 4: some people going okay them and New England took full advantage, 478 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 4: and again, you have to win all your games. This 479 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 4: is no slight to Mike Rabel or Sean Payton in 480 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 4: any sense, but I think there's a lot of people 481 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 4: around the league going and this was a buzz in 482 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 4: Indy A little bit was like, you know, these two 483 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 4: organizations took full advantage of what happened to the AFC 484 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 4: landscape in a Ravens team that fell apart and Lamar 485 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 4: Jackson couldn't stay healthy and wasn't practicing any week and 486 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 4: then maybe he played on a Sunday. And obviously Pittsburgh 487 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 4: is getting just way older, and Joe Burrow gets hurt 488 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 4: again and Ken Patrick Mahomes, you know, he goes down, 489 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 4: and it's a Chiefs team that is now all of 490 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 4: a sudden in a rebuild, and you have Justin Herbert 491 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 4: playing not without one like star tackle, without either star tackle, 492 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 4: and they're down to like their sixth and seventh tackles 493 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 4: in that building. And so I think there are some 494 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 4: people that do believe that both New England and denper 495 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 4: with the health that they had and the way that 496 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 4: they played latent games any key situations. Again, not taking 497 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 4: anything away from me the organization. I think making plays 498 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 4: is a big part of winning football games in the NFL, 499 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 4: and PO certainly does that in the fourth quarter. But 500 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 4: everything that I listed, it's like, well, think a lot 501 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 4: of things went right for those two organizations when so 502 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 4: many things went wrong for a lot of organizations in 503 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 4: the AFC, and so does the ship kind of right itself. Oftentimes, 504 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 4: what we do is we don't really put anybody in 505 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 4: that top three unless you have a superhero quarterback. I 506 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 4: don't think Bo league wide is considered a part of 507 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 4: that group, right guys. I don't think I'm speaking out 508 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 4: of turn that he's not perceived that way across the NFL. 509 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 4: And so I don't think you get yourself into that 510 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 4: top three unless you have one of these superhero quarterbacks. 511 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 4: You can have a great team. It's just the way 512 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 4: the league perceives these things. 513 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 2: Sarking with James Palmer, NFL insider and man whose hair 514 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: I spend hours being envious of every week. 515 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: It's the best cooff in the business. 516 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 4: Man. 517 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 2: You know, I'm trying to trying to keep it real 518 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 2: here you talking about superho quarterbacks. Kansas City's got one 519 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 2: Pat Mahomes, but you know he took that injury last year. 520 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 2: There's not a real consensus on what it is he's 521 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: going to be back, he keeps saying. Beginning of the season. 522 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 2: A lot of other people are saying, man, it's probably 523 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 2: October before he's back. How how detrimental to Kansas City 524 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 2: is that if he's not ready to go at the 525 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 2: beginning of the season. 526 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think we do have to be 527 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 4: realistic with where it's at. I mean, the NCL part 528 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 4: of it definitely complicates his recovery. Now, he went down 529 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 4: to Dallas and had the best guy in the business 530 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 4: do it, and why wouldn't he. But Yeah, my understanding 531 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 4: is that he has been attacking this like like like Gangbusters, 532 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 4: Like it's been insane what he he's been trying to do, 533 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 4: and obviously he is going to push that organization to 534 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 4: put him out there week one. I think Brett Beach 535 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 4: and Andy Rider are very realistic about where they are 536 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 4: right now in twenty twenty six when you look at 537 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 4: the Trent mcduffee move and you look at where they 538 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 4: feel like they are as a roster with Kansas City. 539 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 4: I don't know if a lot of people say this, 540 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 4: and I'll take your guys' opinion on too, I don't 541 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 4: think they have a whole lot of pass catchers on 542 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 4: that team that play the same way Pat plays. I'll 543 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 4: just say it, like, I think they went and they 544 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 4: tried to capitalize on a lot of similar style players, 545 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 4: whether it's speed, whether it's elusiveness like Tyreek used to have. 546 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 4: But I was talking to an offensive coordinator like a 547 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 4: few weeks back about this and he was more or 548 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 4: less like, Pat is a field quarterback. He is one 549 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 4: hundred percent a field player, and he might be the 550 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 4: best field player at the quarterback position we've ever seen. 551 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 4: The reasons he's so great with Travis is he plays 552 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 4: the same way he feels space. He's a field player. 553 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 4: Is Rashi Rice Savior worthy like Hollywood Brown or are 554 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 4: they like I know he's gone now, but like, are 555 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 4: those like field players? I don't see it. I don't 556 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 4: see a really great connection with the skill guys and 557 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 4: mahomes over the last couple years now. I think that 558 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 4: has played a part in where this offense honestly is gone. 559 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 4: And that's why I think the Kenmith Walker move is 560 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 4: kind of like a correction move for where they've been going, 561 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 4: because they've been looking at one style of player in 562 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 4: terms of that skill group, like repeatedly, and it's like, well, 563 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 4: let's kind of pivot here a little bit. And I'm 564 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 4: interested to see with EP coming back how different that 565 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 4: offense is, because I just don't know if those guys 566 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 4: really play the same style that Pat plays, And I'm 567 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 4: curious if they're kind of starting to see that a 568 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 4: little bit. 569 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 3: Hey, James Grant Smith here the only outside free agent 570 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 3: that the Broncos have signed former Cincinnati Bengal Tyson Anderson. 571 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 3: He's a safety by trade, but he makes his name 572 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 3: on special teams. Ben reported the other night he talked 573 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 3: to a Bengals coach and he was their highest graded 574 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 3: special teams player. Is he the PJ Lock replacement in 575 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 3: the secondary as well as on special teams? And what 576 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 3: do you think kind of the impacts he can make 577 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 3: on this Broncos team this season. 578 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,239 Speaker 4: I think we know Grant honestly that the value that 579 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 4: this organization puts on specialty like it's it's not equivalent 580 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 4: across the board. And I think Dever's kind of in 581 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 4: that top group. And yeah, I think he's he's a 582 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 4: direct kind of I don't want to say direct to 583 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 4: replacement as player for players always kind of odd, but like, yeah, 584 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 4: I think he's he's going to provide you some depth. 585 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 4: He's you're going to need playmakers on on on special 586 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 4: teams and like some of the boxes that he checks 587 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 4: from minors standing like in terms of who he is, 588 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 4: what he's like, like, it is kind of PJ. Lock 589 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 4: a little bit. It is kind of a guy that 590 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 4: that that can, you know, really give you something in 591 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 4: different aspects of you know, when outside of being a 592 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 4: key contributor as a starter, and you're looking for those 593 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 4: type of players and you know, we got Christian Parker 594 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 4: down there, guys down in Dallas just making guys he's 595 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 4: been with in the past, whether it's PJ. Lock or 596 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 4: Sean Gary, and it's like ear Lene and on the former, 597 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 4: you know, star secondary coach here in Denver to kind 598 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 4: of make some of these moves that happened down there 599 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 4: in Dallas. And that's why you see PJ. Lockbahn, That's 600 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 4: why you see some of the most Dallas has made. 601 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 4: And yeah, I think that's kind of like it's a 602 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 4: piece and it's kind of the way that George Peyton 603 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 4: was going to approach free agency, which is pieces like that, and. 604 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 2: I certainly think they've added the pieces in Denver to 605 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 2: make themselves contender for a team that was already the 606 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 2: number one seed in the AFC and in the AFC Championship. 607 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: Maybe a broken ankle away from a Super Bowl. Who knows. 608 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 2: But as we look at the AFC, the layout of 609 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 2: the AFC this offseason. You mentioned the Miami Dolphins earlier, 610 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 2: that has to be one of the strange. I mean, 611 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 2: it's obvious what they're doing. They're ripping the thing down 612 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 2: to the studs and starting over, but it has to be. 613 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 2: To me, it feels like one of the more strange 614 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 2: processes out there. As you brought in a quarterback in 615 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 2: Malik Willis and then you said, okay, we're getting rid 616 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 2: of everything around him. If you were a milk Willis, 617 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm guess you're glad you got the payday, 618 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 2: but how happy would you be about the situation you 619 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 2: suddenly find yourself in. 620 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd look at it from both sides of the 621 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,479 Speaker 4: coin time. I don't think you're going all right. Well, 622 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 4: at least, I'm going to a place knows me better 623 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 4: than any other building outside of Green Bay, right. I mean, 624 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 4: you could say Arizona, because I don't think brothers lie 625 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 4: to each other a whole lot. But you have Jeff 626 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 4: Appley and John Eric Sullivan who really do understand you 627 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 4: very well and understand not what you do well, which 628 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 4: I think they do, they really understand what you don't 629 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 4: do well. And I think that is a really important 630 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 4: in the league. Willis's case is that you and you 631 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 4: have a coach right now and a head coach and 632 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 4: a general manager that's it there, and go, we know 633 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 4: he can't do X, Y and Z. Please Bobby Slowick, 634 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 4: do not put him in that situation at all, because 635 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 4: my defense was eating him up in practice. So I 636 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 4: think that's really valuable. That helps, And you have a 637 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 4: group that understands you really really well. My understanding of 638 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 4: the way it worked was they knew this was a 639 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 4: complete tear down. They knew they wanted when they got 640 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 4: like eleven picks or whatever it is now, like it's 641 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 4: an avalanche of picks in twenty six and they were 642 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 4: gonna really brought these two in because they have lacked 643 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 4: the ability to properly evaluate talent. And I think John 644 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 4: Eric Salvan and Jeff Apley evaluate talent really, really well, 645 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 4: and that's why they wanted to build this through the 646 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 4: draft or rebuild it through the draft and kind of 647 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 4: tear this thing down. But why you're doing that, What 648 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 4: you do have to do at the same time, is 649 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 4: like sell your locker room that you're not like completely 650 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 4: tanking in the season, right Like you have to tell 651 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 4: the rest of the fifty two guys that are in 652 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 4: there that number fifty three is walking in there, Malik Willis, 653 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 4: And we made a move to contend to your guys. 654 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 4: We made a move to at least move the meter 655 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 4: in a positive manner. And I think that has to 656 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 4: be done when you're tearing things down to this point. 657 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 4: It's not an outrageous contract. It's one that can get 658 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,239 Speaker 4: out of it. And if it hits, it's great, right Like, 659 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 4: that's the thing, Like, if it hits, it's outstanding. But 660 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,959 Speaker 4: I do think you do have a job to do 661 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 4: as a as a new regime to at least sell 662 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 4: something to your players into your locker room or else. 663 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 4: I'm not sure how you fully walk into to spring 664 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 4: ball where things are headed in Miami you don't provide something. 665 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 4: And that was Malik Willis. 666 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's I think it's such an underrated 667 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: great point that you made there, James. Knowing who you 668 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 2: are is one thing, knowing who you're not is another, 669 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 2: and identifying how to work around. 670 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: That that's such a phenomenal point. 671 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 2: Last one from me, Max Crosby situation, we saw the 672 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 2: probably the strangest. 673 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: Trade not trade in the in the off season here. 674 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 2: Now back with the Raiders, can they repair that relationship? 675 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: Do you expect Max Crosby to be a Raider this year? 676 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 4: I do, I really do. I think it is repaarable 677 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 4: because of who Max is. And I think that's it 678 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 4: sounds funny to say, because we're all like, he's out 679 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 4: the door because of who Max is, right, Like, that's 680 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 4: what we're starting on, going, Well, he's a guy that 681 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 4: like you can't cross and it's over. Once it's over, 682 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 4: it's over. I would say this. He has no issue 683 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 4: with John Spytech. He has obviously no issue with Clint Kubiak. 684 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 4: He just walked in the door after winning a Super Bowl, 685 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 4: so like the two men that he's going to interact 686 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 4: with the most. And then obviously his position coach becomes 687 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 4: a defensive coordinator like those people he has no problem with, 688 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 4: has never had a problem with. I'm I understanding is 689 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 4: he has a really good relationship with John spy Tech, 690 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 4: and so his love of wanting to be a Raider 691 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 4: and his love of, you know, benefiting off of a 692 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 4: chip on his shoulder. I'm not sure a player can 693 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 4: get a larger chip on their shoulder than being like, yeah, 694 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 4: one of the best players of football and this team 695 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 4: just returned me, Like, I don't see how else you 696 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 4: could think of that. In the way Max Max views 697 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 4: it and just knowing him a little bit the way 698 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 4: I do from our interactions, I think he's still going 699 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 4: to play the way he plays. John Spytech cannot take 700 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 4: pennies on the dollar even though teams are calling, like 701 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 4: he just can't write, like that's just weak as an organization. 702 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 4: And so this is something that to me seems like 703 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 4: the next time we might be talking about this and 704 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 4: again a trade could happen. Somebody could go back up 705 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 4: to the two ones. I think it's hard to sell 706 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 4: your owner that, like after a team gave up two 707 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 4: ones and said like, well, the medical doesn't work for us, 708 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 4: and then you're going to tell your owner we're going 709 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 4: to do the same thing. I might be a little 710 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 4: tough to sell, but I know there's plenty of buildings 711 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 4: that would pass him for a physical right now in 712 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 4: this league. This could be something we revisit at the deadline, 713 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 4: say he's playing outstanding and the Raiders are not. Could 714 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 4: this be something that teams go, Okay, we just saw 715 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 4: him in the first part of the season. He's outstanding. 716 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 4: Still with the knee, we'll make a trade at the deadline. 717 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 4: I could see that being something that could possibly happen. 718 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 4: But like he's definitely walking back into a far better 719 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 4: team than the one he left, Like a really different 720 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 4: defense than the one that he just left. And so 721 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 4: you know, maybe this is something that you know, I 722 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 4: think will benefit Clint Kubiak if he's all in as 723 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 4: a first time head coach, getting a guy that's going 724 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 4: to be more or less the pied piper of your 725 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 4: entire room to help you build this culture as Max 726 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 4: has done that repeatedly, this could go well, Like it's weird, 727 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 4: Like I was talking to assistant GM the other day, 728 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 4: it was just like this could work out for the Raiders. 729 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 4: Like as strange as that sounds, like, this could possibly 730 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 4: work out again, We'll see, But right now there's like 731 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 4: a little bit of positivity there in Vegas. 732 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 2: They might back the way into something that works. Know, 733 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 2: it's always the best when you do that, James, we 734 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 2: appreciate it. 735 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: As always. 736 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 2: You can find him co host with Steve Smith on 737 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 2: eighty nine over there at the Athletic anywhere else they 738 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 2: can find your stuff, James, I. 739 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 4: With Leacher Report, which is a really fun thing. We 740 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 4: do some live streams are you can ask me questions 741 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 4: every week, which is actually actually something I've really grown 742 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 4: to like. The thing's been pretty fun. Two o'clock Eastern 743 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 4: into what noon Mountain time on Tuesdays. Yeah, we do 744 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 4: a little live Q and A with Leacher Report. It's 745 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 4: been fun. 746 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: All right, Well, there you go. 747 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 2: I'll be sure to tune into that next week. And 748 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 2: obviously we appreciate having you on. You find him on Twitter. 749 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 4: I'll keep out with the handle that you'll have on that. 750 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: I'll be using a burner account for that. Clearly, obviously that's. 751 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 4: You mention who it is. 752 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 2: You know exactly who it is, James Tuliver and James 753 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,959 Speaker 2: Tulver TV on Twitter. Appreciate the time, brother, All right, 754 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 2: take care. We've got Parker Gabriel the Ever posts. 755 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: We come back next