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And how 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: about this little scheduling note for your Friday starting at 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: six o'clock and then tip off shortly after six point thirty. 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: As I'm looking at it on the schedule here, we're 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: gonna have Minnesota Golden Gophers women's basketball facing UCLA out 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: in Sacramento. 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 2: It's gonna be jg on the call. 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: You can hear Guardsy and you can hear the women 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,319 Speaker 1: versus UCLA right here. Pregame six tip off around six 13 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: thirty pm on the fan. As I mentioned, Men's turney 14 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: thanks to Dave Smith Motors will be on the Plus from. 15 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 3: The Athletic Intheathletic dot Com. Will the Vikings trade Jonathan Grenard? 16 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: Everything we need to know? What do we need to know? 17 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 3: And I mean, is this gonna happen? 18 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 4: Yeah? 19 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: I I don't know. 20 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 5: I would say, like, I don't think there's it's clear 21 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 5: one way or another. It depends on a lot of 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 5: different factors. The couple things. I will say the Vikings 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 5: have not wanted to trade Jonathan Gernard like that's been 24 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 5: They don't want to trade Jonathan Gernard. Part of the 25 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 5: reason it's a conversation is because his contract currently. 26 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 2: Puts him around. 27 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 5: The fifteenth highest paid ed rusher in the NFL, and 28 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 5: he's had production, specifically advanced metric production that would lead 29 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 5: you to believe that he would, you know, be deserving 30 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 5: a more money. The Vikings, with their cap situation and 31 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 5: haven't wanted to pay him what he and Drew rosenounced 32 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 5: his agent feel like he is deserving, and so the 33 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 5: Vikings wanted to work with the player, have been malleable 34 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 5: to the idea, if you can get that money from 35 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 5: somewhere else, and that team is willing to pay us 36 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 5: in draft capital what we feel like we deserve, then 37 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 5: we'll listen. I think what I've talked to people around 38 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 5: the league, the biggest hurdle for other teams has been 39 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 5: the contract. 40 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: That has been the hurdle for the Vikings. 41 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: So there's anybody who trades with him know as well 42 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: they have to pay him. 43 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: Pump that thing up, right, pump it up. 44 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 5: And with the structure that according to someone who's a 45 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 5: high ranking person in another building of a team that 46 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 5: talked about the idea, They're. 47 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: Like, how is Ted Thompson? 48 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish, but what doesn't that also then water 49 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: down the trade equity. So if you think about it, 50 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: like Vikings fans out there, it's like, well, man, I 51 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: don't want to lose Grenard, but if we got a 52 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: first round pick. 53 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: I mean, now I'm listening, it's like, well, the team's not. 54 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: Gonna give you a first round pick if I got 55 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: to double the dude's salary the minute he walks in 56 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 1: the door. 57 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: And then all the other. 58 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 5: Teams know what the Vikings know, which is this is 59 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 5: a guy who just played twelve games. He had a 60 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 5: serious shoulder injury. He's navigated injuries in the past. Yes, 61 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 5: his sack number was just three and twenty twenty five, 62 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 5: but again, the advanced production has been there. 63 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: So it's a difficult one with a lot of lay. 64 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 5: And that's why when you ask me, do I think 65 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 5: that's gonna happen, it's really hard to Like, if you 66 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 5: look at Philadelphia, are they gonna all of a sudden 67 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 5: be like, you know what, We'll trade a second round 68 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 5: pick and we're gonna pay them. Like, if they feel 69 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 5: like that's a route that they end up going, then 70 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 5: it could be possible. 71 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 2: If it's not, then it might not be possible. 72 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 3: Orlovski ty Simpson, Fernando Mendoza and splashing three two. 73 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 4: I think ty Simpson is QB one. I think ty 74 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 4: Simpson is the best quarterback in this class. I think 75 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 4: when you look at the body of work and what 76 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 4: was asked of these two quarterbacks, you have to start 77 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 4: with the question who needed to do more to carry 78 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 4: their football team to play well? Ty Simpson. And it's 79 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 4: not close between those two quarterbacks who took more games 80 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 4: over throughout the course of the season ty Simpson. 81 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: It's not even close. 82 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 4: And if we're asking, like, okay, we're trying to see 83 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 4: what you are as a player in college and what 84 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 4: you're gonna be asked to do in the NFL, and 85 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 4: what translates, I start with what do you do in 86 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 4: moments of panic with the football? Because that's really what 87 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 4: separates good degree. I would tell you that ty Simpson 88 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 4: is more consistent in that regard. There's not a ton 89 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 4: of moments of panic out of Fernando Mendoza. And then 90 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 4: there's moments when he immediately drops his eyes and becomes 91 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 4: a runner. Ty Simpson more consistent than that. What guy 92 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 4: was asked to do more NFL throws. When I say 93 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 4: NFL throws, I'm talking fifteen twenty twenty five yard in routes, 94 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 4: crossing routes, deep corner or sale routes, ty Simpson, And 95 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 4: it's not even close in that regard. 96 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 3: Okay, that really the only question I have here, Ardo 97 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 3: may have more is do you feel Dan Orlovsky? Not 98 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 3: anybody but this individual would fix a conversational race because 99 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 3: he and ty Simpson are represented by the same agency. 100 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: No, I mean, I can't imagine you. 101 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 5: I cannot fathom you'd put your credibility on the line 102 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 5: on that guy for a relationship with CIA, Like. 103 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 2: I just can't. 104 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 5: And there's a couple of things and we in order 105 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 5: if you have questions, what you can hop in. First 106 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 5: of all, for me, I don't think it is the 107 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 5: craziest conversation in the world to suggest that it's probably 108 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 5: closer between those these two guys than maybe some perceive it. 109 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 5: I don't think that's the craziest thing in the world. 110 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 5: I also think that there are a lot of variables 111 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 5: you have to talk about, and that conversation that Dan 112 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 5: just spelled out was very one sided. Like he didn't 113 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 5: talk about the size of Ty Simpson, which is a 114 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 5: major concern as we've seen of guys of his size 115 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 5: in the past. 116 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, the top Vegas. 117 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 5: He e's like two hundred pounds, soaking wet. He's I 118 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 5: think six two six three. He's just he's thin. He 119 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 5: is just not thick in his bottom half, and that 120 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 5: stuff can often lead to injuries. 121 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 2: He didn't talk about the spray misses. Like I'm an 122 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 2: Alabama fan. 123 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 5: You'd watch these games and like, holy cow, he just 124 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 5: sprayed that five yards over Jeremy Bernard's head. So there's 125 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 5: a lot of layers to the conversation. I do think Fernando, 126 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 5: as I said earlier, is much more of a projection 127 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 5: than people are making it out to be. He played 128 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 5: in an RPO heavy offense and is now going to 129 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 5: have to acclimate to the rhythm and timing of Clint Kubiak. 130 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 5: Can he do it? I think he definitely can. He's 131 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 5: gonna work his butt off to do it. But I 132 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 5: don't think it's ever a no brainer that oftentimes the 133 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 5: draft analysis makes it seem. 134 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: To be well. 135 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: I was talking off air with with Ben Lieber about 136 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: this yesterday morning before he joined us, and liber kind 137 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: of landed on an interesting point, kind of the idea 138 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: of how we evaluate you. You watch a ton of 139 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: film in the offseason, you get pumped up for draft season, 140 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: and we get as informed as we can to Draft night. 141 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: It's almost like, I think in Dan's case, he made 142 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: the mistake of he's pumping up Ty Simpson. He watches 143 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: the film, he loves what ty Simpson is doing, but 144 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: in that process he also so in some ways disparaged 145 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza. Where if Simpson's is QB one, that's terrific, 146 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: and celebrate them and explain why. But to make that 147 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: kind of contrasting, just the jibing nature of what he 148 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: did in terms of bringing that to Mendoza's doorstep, I 149 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: think that's why people are so pissed off or annoyed 150 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: by it. 151 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 5: And then he went on Pat McAfee and Pat was like, 152 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 5: can you give more reasons? 153 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: And he's like, well, talk about the big games. 154 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 5: And I don't know if that argument is the is 155 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 5: the one you would go to if you did talk 156 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 5: about Fernando Mendoza hasn't thrown a ton over the middle 157 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 5: of the field. If you did talk about how rpo 158 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 5: centric their offense is, like those are if you did 159 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 5: talk about how his eyes fall in the pocket when 160 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 5: there is pressure, those are real data points that are 161 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 5: worth discussion. But I mean, the accuracy is undeniable with 162 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 5: with Fernando Mendoza, and then unless it's all just optics, 163 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 5: his willingness to put in the time and the work 164 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 5: and to be studious like that are important layers as well. 165 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 2: But again, the draft process makes me laugh. 166 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 5: Because everyone talks about these guys so confidently, and a 167 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 5: first round pick has a sixty percent. 168 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 2: Chance of becoming a starter. 169 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 5: Essentially, a second round pick has like a forty percent 170 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 5: chance of becoming a starter. 171 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 2: And everything after that it just falls. 172 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 5: So you're talking about major, like bold probability bets that 173 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 5: are really out there. So that's why I often laugh 174 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 5: at some of the draft analysis that is so convicted 175 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 5: and confident. 176 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: One way or another. 177 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 3: Johnny Athletic, your cohort joins about fifteen minutes from now 178 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 3: to discuss a big event tonight and the Timberwolves. So uh, 179 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 3: just to to to finalize festivities with with Alec from 180 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 3: the Athletic I mean, I got some some things here 181 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 3: that I want to get into, but we're running short 182 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: on time. 183 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: Yeah we are. 184 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: Idina's Nate Tice, whose football opinion is respected. He recently 185 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 3: was on the Alex Lewish podcast. What resonates from Nate's 186 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 3: evaluation of Kyler Murray? 187 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: What? What do you remember? What he said? 188 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I had Nate on my podcast, the Alex Lewis Show. 189 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 5: Wherever you get your podcast, I'm one of three million 190 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 5: billion people have a podcast, and uh, Nate was on 191 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 5: to talk about Kyler Murray. I think he he believes 192 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 5: the fit. 193 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: With Kyler and Kevin O'Connell and. 194 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 5: The offense and the way Kyler plays is better than 195 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 5: some people probably originally thought. He has questions about two areas. 196 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 5: Throwing over the middle of the field and what the 197 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 5: times with Kyler and then to hear that and then 198 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 5: playing from under center and play action and how that's 199 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 5: gonna work. Like, those are the two areas that will 200 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 5: be It will be interesting, fascinating and curious to watch 201 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 5: from your perspective, from mine, from the perch. From all 202 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 5: of that, over the course of the spring and summer. 203 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 5: But I will say this, Pa, because I've spent the 204 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 5: last two weeks talking to a lot of people from Arizona. 205 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 2: It's been part of my curiosity and fascination and how 206 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: is Jonathan Gannon. 207 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 5: Pretty Much everybody you talked to spent time with Kyler 208 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 5: and Arizona believes that this is going to work because 209 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 5: of the standard that Kevin O'Connell and the Vikings offense 210 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 5: and organization will have for Kyler and the motivation that 211 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 5: he will have coming here. 212 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: So people believe it will work in that regard. 213 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 5: Now, how high does it go from a success standpoint, 214 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 5: We'll all find out together, But I think I think 215 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 5: there is optimism among people who have been around him 216 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 5: that this marriage will hold him to a certain level 217 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 5: that will pay dividends. 218 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 3: With the Alex Lewis Show podcast with Nate Tice, what 219 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 3: went into the Spurgeon win deep Cut? 220 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 5: I mean, Nate was just rattling off the quarterback cycle 221 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 5: of guys he grew up watching, you know, he obviously 222 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 5: lived a lot of it. So we were just talking about, 223 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 5: like how it's crazy every year there who's the next quarter? 224 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 2: And I joke with him since I've gotten here. 225 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 5: It feels like the cycle of my job is in 226 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 5: the spring, you find out who the quarterback is. Then 227 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 5: from the spring to the fall, there's optimism about who 228 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 5: the quarterback is gonna be. Then from the fall to 229 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 5: the winner, it's this quarterback was good at times, bad 230 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 5: at times, and then you get to the spring and 231 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 5: you're like, who's good the quarterback going to be? And 232 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 5: that is covering the vikings for the athletics one. It's 233 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 5: kind of a col yeah. 234 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 3: But but when it was Cousins before the Achilles, I 235 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 3: mean that looked like you might have settled into like, 236 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 3: you know, like four or five, six years, seven, then 237 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 3: a retirement, you know. 238 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Kirk. 239 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 5: Still doesn't have a team. That's pretty interesting. I don't 240 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 5: know if you've talked about it, that's right. I think 241 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 5: Vegas is definitely circling there. And then who knows, if 242 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 5: it's not Vegas, maybe he's a backup for the Rams 243 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 5: or the Packers. 244 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 2: That's weird, he wouldn't it. 245 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: We had talked about that before and it just always 246 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: felt like Vegas was a bad fit, like in terms 247 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: of places that and maybe that's changed, and the connection 248 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: with Mendoza a lot of people are making that like 249 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: he'd be a great mentor or for Apparently they just 250 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: look at Mendoza like he's a younger cousins, like he's 251 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: just cerebral, he's nerdy, the whole thing. 252 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 3: And kirk season with Clint Kubiak in twenty twenty one 253 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 3: was terrific. 254 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, he loves he loves Clint. 255 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 5: I know that he has a lot of respect for 256 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 5: Rick Dennison, who's gonna be the O line coach Gary 257 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 5: Gary and him have a relationship. Andrew Jonoko is obviously 258 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 5: the OC there. There's a relationship, So that's right, it 259 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 5: would it would all make a lot of sense. But again, 260 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 5: if Vegas doesn't happen for him, then it becomes pretty interesting. 261 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 5: So I don't I enjoyed covering Kirk, so I follow it. 262 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 3: What are the details behind Minnesota hosting the twenty twenty 263 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 3: eight draft. 264 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they've submitted a bid, which is the 265 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 5: first step. There's been a lot of work from the 266 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 5: Viking standpoint, Lester Bagley and that crew uh in the 267 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 5: Minnesota Sports Commission. 268 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 2: So they've submitted a bid. 269 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 5: I think typically cities that submit a bid, you've got 270 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 5: to it. Rarely doesn't happen the first time you submit 271 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 5: a bid, So if they don't get twenty twenty eight, 272 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 5: then I would expect them to be in line for 273 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 5: twenty twenty nine. But they seem pretty convicted that they 274 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 5: want to make this happen, and thin could be awesome, 275 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 5: Like it's always I don't know why sometimes people travel 276 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 5: to these cities to watch picks being made. 277 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: But people did. 278 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 5: Camaraderie of it, yeah, and people love it, So I 279 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 5: think this place would be a great host, you know, 280 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 5: I mean everyone listening knows like this. 281 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: This place freaking loves their teams, loves sports, and so 282 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: would be pretty cool to see. I think. 283 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 3: Now, I don't know if we've talked about this, but 284 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 3: you've written about it since we last chatted, involving Carson Wentz, 285 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 3: So I'm just gonna ask you to paint with a 286 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 3: broad brush. 287 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 2: Why did the Vikings sign Carson Wentz to build the 288 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 2: deepest and most talented. 289 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 5: Quarterback room, which is what Kevin O'Connell said the Vikings 290 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 5: wanted to do the first time he met with the 291 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 5: media after the season. Okay, it's pretty clear cut in 292 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 5: my opinion. They made the quarterback room a priority so 293 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 5: what did they do. They signed two guys with a 294 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 5: combination of like hundred one hundred plus starts for approximately 295 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 5: five million dollars. And the crazy thing is part of 296 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 5: the optimism around what the Vikings have done at the 297 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 5: quarterback position, regardless of what you think of the players, 298 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 5: is they're paying eleven million dollars for three quarterbacks who 299 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 5: have a combination of like two hundred starts. And that 300 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 5: is the seventh fewest that any team in the NFL 301 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 5: is spending on their quarterback room. 302 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: It's really hard to do that, right and again, so 303 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 2: that's why with. 304 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 5: Carson Wentz, I think it's easy to want to go, well, 305 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 5: that means they're going to trade JJ. 306 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 2: Where that means JJ, it's all over, Well that means Bob. 307 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 5: I just think it's if you can get a guy 308 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 5: in Carson Wentz that you have faith in and he's 309 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 5: willing to sign here, then we'll sort it all out 310 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 5: once these guys get on the field. 311 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: And they didn't have to spend a lot to get them. 312 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 3: So would you be in any way surprised if the 313 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 3: McCarthy camp wants to be traded. 314 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 2: Not not. 315 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 3: We got these two and you know as well as anybody, 316 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 3: you know, whether people want to laugh at it or not. 317 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 3: Because of the Seattle game last year, they like Brosmer. 318 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 3: And I'm not saying they like Brosmer as much or 319 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 3: more than McCarthy or dramatically less, but they like Brosmer. 320 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: But you know, it's quiet. It's all of this is 321 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: so quiet right now, which. 322 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 3: Is probably good, well right, but I mean a lot 323 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 3: of times when it's super quiet, then then wheels are grinding, 324 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: you know, things are happening. So the McCarthy camp, I 325 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: don't even know who represents him, Brian a year old? Okay, 326 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 3: So like that side, you know, just waiting for a 327 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 3: maybe close to the draft, being like trade my guy. 328 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 5: I mean, would I be surprised if they were like 329 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 5: a little perturbed? I would say it wouldn't surprise me 330 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 5: a ton, But I mean I guess I would say 331 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 5: I would. This is from the analysis hat. You'd be like, well, 332 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 5: what leverage do you really have here? I mean again, 333 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 5: how many other teams are willing to let Jaj McCarthy 334 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 5: just walk in and be the starter in twenty twenty six? 335 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: I can you find one? 336 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 3: I don't know, Like I mean it it feels like 337 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 3: you know, with respect to everybody and an off season 338 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 3: to win jobs. It feels like he's the active three. 339 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 3: I mean every single week, you know. So therefore, if 340 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 3: there is an absolute two spot that is open, I 341 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 3: mean that you know that that's one step from playing obviously, 342 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 3: where the other situation, if it works that way, you know, 343 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 3: means that he's two steps from playing. 344 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know why that is the assumption that 345 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 5: Carson Wentz. Carson Wentz is just automatically the backup. I 346 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 5: listen the other day to Ben Leeber because I thought 347 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 5: his take was interesting and I wanted to listen. But like, 348 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 5: I think as as Carson Wentz ran the offense, but 349 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 5: to act as if Carson Wentz was like just thriving, 350 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 5: go back and rewatch the film. It's not the most 351 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 5: rosy picture of what that was, which is part of 352 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 5: the reason he got hurt was a byproduct of the 353 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 5: play style. It wasn't just Kevin O'Connor wanting to throw 354 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 5: him out there and get hurt. 355 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 2: I mean, he was ducking his head in the pocket. 356 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 5: I remember being in Dublin and some of the Steeler 357 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 5: and it was just it was carnage. 358 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 2: Some of the play styles, so when he got running 359 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 2: into linebackers and it's like taking them on. 360 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 5: Right, And that's part of why over the course of 361 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 5: his career he's never been able to stay healthy. So 362 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 5: I think the assumption that JJ is the three is 363 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 5: not the most fair assessment of it. He could come 364 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 5: back in OTAs and look really, really good and really productive, 365 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 5: and it's gonna be incoming upon him to prove it 366 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 5: every single day. 367 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 2: And that's for all of this. 368 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 5: They have established an infrastructure where it is a competitive, 369 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 5: motivated environment, and I don't think that's a bad thing 370 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 5: at any position. 371 00:17:55,520 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 3: Lastly, are you heading to? Are you heading to? I 372 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 3: believe it's head Flyer? What yeah, Head Flyer with the 373 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 3: Johnny Ka Show with a lead assistant Mike Andry seven 374 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 3: o'clock tonight? Are you are you going to go to 375 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 3: that tonight? And if so, are you bringing the marketing director? 376 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,959 Speaker 2: We I've been. It's so funny. 377 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 5: John's mother works at Lounson Byerley's, where I grocery shop in. 378 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 2: The Northeast area. Oh yeah, she asked me the other day, 379 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: am I going to go? 380 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 5: And I really felt bad telling John's mother that I'm 381 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 5: not totally. 382 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 3: Sure tournament watching that, but they got TVs there, might 383 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 3: go to dinner. 384 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. 385 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 5: We're trying to figure it out. But John's John will 386 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 5: have Mike and Norry. The crowd will be phenomenal. People 387 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 5: are rabbing about this team, as they should be, so 388 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 5: it'll be great. 389 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 3: It'll be great when we follow your stories and your 390 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 3: tweets at Alex Underscore Lewis and or the podcast The 391 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: Alex Lewis Show. From the owners meetings, what do you 392 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 3: look to accomplish? 393 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not going in with any I mean and 394 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 5: I'm not. There's no crazy mission with this. It'll just 395 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 5: be interesting to hear after free agency or not after 396 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 5: free agency, but just with where they're at having acquired 397 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 5: Kyler Murray and Carson Wentz, how do they view the 398 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 5: quarterback room? What have they heard about JJ? What have 399 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 5: the initial conversation with Kyler been? 400 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: Like? 401 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 5: Roster wise, what are the biggest needs? Like I think 402 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 5: the draft right now, I would say over the last 403 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 5: three years, this is as wide open as I feel. 404 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 5: The position that they could target in number eighteen is 405 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 5: like I felt pretty comfortable last year that it was 406 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 5: going to be an offensive Lineman. The year before, in 407 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 5: twenty twenty four, you knew it was going to be 408 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 5: a quarterback, obviously, But this year, like if you said 409 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 5: they drafted a defensive tackle, a safety, you know, a 410 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 5: tight end, Like, No, I wouldn't expect tight end in 411 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 5: the first round. 412 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 3: You're telling me if that Oregon guy Sadek is available 413 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 3: at eighteen, they wouldn't take him. 414 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. 415 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: I haven't watched him close enough, and I haven't totinson 416 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: them the way they framed up his deal so that 417 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: this could be his final year here. 418 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't watched to. 419 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 5: Now Sadika enough to or and I haven't talked to 420 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 5: people internally enough to know whether they love him or not. 421 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 5: Ifow is Phil Knight, if Jeremiah, if Jeremiah love like, 422 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 5: if that would be possible, I would feel very comfortable 423 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 5: that that would be in play. 424 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 2: You're ever gonna do a mock three? 425 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll do another mock, But I'm I'm gonna give 426 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 5: John John just tweeted, by the way, Alec no better 427 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 5: date night spot than Headflyer tonight, not saying just saying. 428 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 2: Come on, man, they got TJ. She would go but 429 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 2: you know, I don't know. I've got to you know, 430 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 2: there's a lot. More's been a lot to bring MD 431 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: out in public. 432 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 5: Well, I was telling him d the other night I 433 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 5: wanted to watch the Wild play the Tampa Bay Lightning 434 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 5: and she. 435 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: You know, she thinks I'm crazy, but yeah, John's mom, I'm. 436 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 5: Not gonna not watch marcus fully. No, No, she hasn't 437 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 5: met John's mom. But I'm telling you John's mom is 438 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 5: probably like, why does he. 439 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 2: Come into the grocery store? 440 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, three times a week instead of just why does 441 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 5: he get all his groceries one day? 442 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 2: But I'm in It's true, It's absolutely correct. 443 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 3: You are fantastic, and I hope you have a wonderful 444 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 3: weekend and we look forward to either contacting you in 445 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 3: Arizona or seeing you relatively. 446 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 2: So I'll be by the pool. Just let me know. 447 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 3: Alick Lewis the Athletic the Athletic dot Com and his 448 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 3: cohort Johnny Athletic, joins nine to noon around the corner. 449 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 3: This is KM. Hey Johnny, what's going on? 450 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 2: What's up? 451 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 6: Pa? 452 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 2: How are you doing pretty well? Thank you? Do you 453 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 2: perchance have zell. 454 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 6: Zell? 455 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 2: I don't okay? Well, I'll need to get in order. 456 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 3: I wanted to zell or Venmo U two hundred dollars 457 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 3: so we can get Venmo okay, we can get Alec over. 458 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 3: So we're gonna need we might need a side table 459 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 3: or a booth at Headflyer. I'll send you two hundred 460 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 3: dollars to take care of their food and their drinks. 461 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 3: To get him to come to the event tonight, because 462 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 3: he's on the fence, and I'm like, why are you 463 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 3: on the fence. This is your dog. It's but Johnny's 464 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 3: your dog, a man's best friend. And it sounds like 465 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 3: a wonderful date night. 466 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 6: It'd be an unbelievable date night, Mike and Nori, myself, 467 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 6: little Wolf's talk. A crowd of thousands. You know, Alec 468 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 6: would get some of the warmth because there's plenty of 469 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,239 Speaker 6: Vikings fans that are going to be there. They'd love 470 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 6: to see him. Would impress the you know, the young 471 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 6: lady that that we both know very well, and so 472 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 6: I don't see how he can miss it. I'm a 473 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 6: little offended that he needs to be bribed to come out, 474 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 6: after all I've done for him over the years, but 475 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 6: I guess that's the way it is for these young guys. 476 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 3: Very very fair point. Big night tonight for Johnny Kay. 477 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 3: John Krazinski covers the Wolves for The Athletic and Theeathletic 478 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 3: dot Com Headflyer Brewery seven o'clock, loquacious and funny Wolves, 479 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 3: lead assistant and fill in head coach Mike and Norry. 480 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 2: He's going to be on the scene. 481 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 3: What what can people expect tonight and like, like how 482 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 3: early should people arrive? 483 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say it fills up quickly, so we 484 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 6: start at seven pm. If you want a place close 485 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 6: to the front of the stage area, you're probably gonna 486 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 6: want to get there five ish, I would guess, because 487 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 6: it does. It does pack in pretty good. It's got 488 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 6: a great open tap room. There's plenty of room. We'll 489 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 6: have speakers everywhere so you can hear things. So if 490 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 6: you want to be up close and you want to 491 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 6: hear Mike and Norry Waxine philosophic, poetic and comedic about 492 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 6: the Timberwolves, get there early, have a beer, get loosened up. 493 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 6: There's a pizza truck out front, and so there'll be 494 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 6: plenty of time just hang out with with your people. 495 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 6: But it's gonna be great. We're gonna have a nice 496 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 6: conversation with Micah about this season, about his pathway up 497 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 6: from you know, from from nowhere to where he is 498 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 6: now and and probably a future head coach in this league. 499 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 6: Will you know, share some stories about about the wolves, 500 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 6: about ants about Finchy and all that, and and then 501 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 6: we're gonna have some tickets to give away. We'll have 502 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 6: some Q and A with myself and the audience. And 503 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 6: so it's always a really good time so people can 504 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 6: make it out there. We'll we'll do the best to 505 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 6: make it worth their while. 506 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 2: Uh, is Sue Hand going to be there? 507 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 3: And if so, is Sue Dog going to bring his 508 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 3: guitar and like do something instrumental and or acoustic. 509 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 6: So he he will be there. He'll be he's kind 510 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 6: of the quarterback of the show and I and kind 511 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 6: of you know, direct traffic a little bit, and and 512 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 6: so he will be there. I don't think he'll be 513 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 6: singing or playing today, but if that's what's going to 514 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 6: bring in more more of the crowd, Uh, we'll, we'll 515 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 6: do what we need to do. He is he is 516 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 6: an artist, as you know, And I don't think it 517 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 6: would take much to say, hey, Hey, Jim want you 518 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 6: want you to play a little diddy here and we 519 00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 6: won't have to twist his arm too much. 520 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jim's a terrific columnist. 521 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 3: I've gotten closer with him over the years and I've 522 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 3: got a lot of respect for him. So he's going 523 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 3: to be part of it tonight. And you know, for 524 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 3: those who are looking for information, we just gave out 525 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 3: a lot lastly Headflyer. 526 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: Where is Headflyer. 527 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 6: Headflier Bruings in northeast Minneapolis. It's right off of Hennepin 528 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 6: Avenue and thirty five W. Very close. There's a bunch 529 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 6: of parking right near it, which is which is good, 530 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 6: and and it's been a brewery that's been around for 531 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 6: quite a while. It doesn't it's not that far from 532 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 6: my house, so I've been going to it for years 533 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 6: and years. Great beers and and just a really great venue, 534 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 6: cool venue for Wolfs fans uh to to just come 535 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 6: watch games, hang out. But a thirty five W and 536 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 6: and Hennepin Avenue in Northeast Minneapolis. 537 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 3: And people can get more information via John's x feed 538 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 3: that's at j O n k. 539 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 2: What what's your Twitter handle? 540 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 6: At j O n k R a w c z 541 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 6: y n s K. 542 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 2: I can you repeat the part of this stuff where 543 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 2: you said all about the things I. 544 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 3: Would imagine you plan to talk a fair amount about 545 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 3: that history making win against the Rockets. 546 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 2: What what'd you think? 547 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 6: It was unbelievable? Pa, I mean, when you look at 548 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 6: it was kind of this season in a nutshell, just 549 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 6: the wild twists and turns all in one game. I mean, 550 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 6: they're up big in the fourth and it gets away 551 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 6: from them. Then they're down big and down thirteen and 552 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 6: in overtime, and I'm just getting ready to figure out, 553 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 6: you know, just to ask all the questions about the 554 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 6: officiating and everything. I know they're gonna be mad at. 555 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 6: And then all of a sudden they storm back and 556 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 6: start hitting shots, start getting stopped, Julius Randall's unbelievable, Devincenzo 557 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 6: hitting the big three, Mike Conley hitting a three in 558 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 6: the corner to get things started. And it was really 559 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 6: a cool kind of thing for this team because we've 560 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 6: watched them all season try and figure out a cohe 561 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 6: in a chemistry, and then you have ant out, you 562 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,479 Speaker 6: have ioed asum Wu out, Nazrid Is out, Rudy Gobert 563 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 6: is out and this kind of ragtag group of Wolves 564 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 6: banded together to go in and steal a huge game 565 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 6: when it comes to playoff into implications. So definitely the biggest, 566 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 6: kind of most rowdy win of the season and one 567 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 6: that they desperately needed. So it was a super fun 568 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 6: environment to be in. 569 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 3: I loved your take about Kyle Anderson in that he 570 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 3: can guard a teams five, a team center, then play 571 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 3: point for the Wolves as they embark on offense, which 572 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 3: which we remember from the last time he was here, 573 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 3: but with this individual group, just how valuable is slow Mo. 574 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 6: And why, Yeah, it's a it's just incredible what they 575 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 6: what he gives them in checks every box that they need. So, 576 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 6: you know, you look at what he's done since he 577 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 6: left here Pa the first time, and he went to 578 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 6: gold State and didn't get a whole lot of run, 579 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 6: and went to Miami and played some but wasn't you know, 580 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 6: wasn't a major part of what they were doing. And 581 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 6: then in Utah they were tanking and so he really 582 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 6: didn't get on the floor. But he comes to the 583 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 6: Timberwolves again and you look at it and say, well, 584 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 6: he doesn't make many shots and so and he's not 585 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 6: super athletics, So how's he going to fit in? But 586 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 6: Chris Finch appreciates his game, but mostly he appreciates his 587 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 6: basketball iq I think more than any coach that Kyle 588 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 6: Anderson has played for, including Greg Popovich, and and so 589 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 6: what Finch he does is put him in position to 590 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 6: really trust that intelligence. And this is a team that 591 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,719 Speaker 6: needs basketball IQPA, that needs a thinker out there, and 592 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 6: they need ball handling, they need versatility defensively, and you're 593 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 6: already seeing he's only been here for a minute, but 594 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 6: he settled right back into basically pointing out to everyone 595 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 6: on the court, Hey, I need you here, Hey, I 596 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 6: need you over here. Watch this guy coming on the 597 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 6: back door. And he's such a great communicator and connector 598 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 6: that it doesn't really matter that he's not a super 599 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 6: big scoring threat. He just does so many other things 600 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 6: that this team needs. He's just essential for what they're 601 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 6: doing here down the stretch. He's going to be a 602 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 6: major part of their playoff rotation and deservedly so. 603 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 3: And with what you just said, he does it naturally. 604 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 3: When the proverbial bullets are flying, which means things are 605 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 3: hot and they're tense and they're fast, the example that 606 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 3: I think you may have shared, but like when he 607 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 3: pointed to de Vincenzo to go to the right spot 608 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 3: and then it was off a pick and Dante gets 609 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 3: that straight away. 610 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 2: Three. It's stuff like that. 611 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 3: I mean, the quarterback on the floor, man, he's just 612 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 3: so naturally good at that is Kyle Anderson. 613 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 614 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 6: And it's not only on offense, Pa, but also on 615 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 6: defense because later in that game, at the end of overtime, 616 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 6: when the Rockets are trying to inbound for one last shot, 617 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 6: Devincenzo's guarding the ball the inbounder and Kyle Anderson is 618 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 6: guarding Kevin Durant, the only guy that can score on Houston, 619 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 6: and he tells Dante, hey, come over here and double 620 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 6: right now. Just get off of the inbounder. So Dante 621 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 6: comes over to double Durant with Kyle. That forces the 622 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,479 Speaker 6: inbounder to pass it somewhere else where. TJ. Shannon tips 623 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 6: the ball and they never even get a shot off. 624 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 6: So that's the kind of things that he sees in 625 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 6: real time. And he already has the credibility to where 626 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 6: if he tells someone to do something, they do it 627 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 6: and it works out. And so just all of those 628 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 6: little things. You're just never going to see that when 629 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 6: you look at his box score an eye he went 630 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 6: one for six. What did he really do well? He 631 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 6: did so many important things to stir the drinks down 632 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 6: the stretch to make sure that it turned out the 633 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 6: way that it did, and is just exactly what they 634 00:30:58,840 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 6: need right now. 635 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 2: Do you think think Ant returns tomorrow. 636 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 6: I think there's a chance he returns tomorrow. I think 637 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 6: it might be a little more likely that Monday is 638 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 6: the case. Today is a big DAYPA. They have practice 639 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 6: about to go into into the practice facility and check out, 640 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 6: you know, what he's doing. But he's just started this 641 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 6: week kind of doing individual stuff on the court and 642 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 6: and and kind of trying to go through some agility 643 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 6: drills and test that knee out, And so I think that, 644 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 6: you know, if today goes really well, then yes, I 645 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 6: could see him playing tomorrow against Detroit. But I think 646 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 6: that it might make even a little more sense to 647 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 6: just give that meee a couple of extra days, let 648 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 6: him get one more workout in on Sunday and then 649 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 6: play Monday in Dallas. We'll have to just see how 650 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 6: that all works out. 651 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: So in the meantime, what is the team learning Johnny 652 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: without aunt in the mix, and where we're celebrating the 653 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: OT win, where we're finding some new faces and just 654 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: grinding three things. What are they learning about this team 655 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: now that that will inform them or instruct them moving 656 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: forward when ant does return. 657 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's been big Nordo in terms of their four 658 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 6: and one without him, which is outstanding. They're playing great 659 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 6: defense right now. Uh with without Ann I think they're 660 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 6: number one in the league. In these five games, it's 661 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 6: like the defensive rating of right around one hundred, which 662 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 6: is minuscule in today's game. And what you have seen, 663 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 6: I think without Edwards out there, everyone else has sort 664 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 6: of a heightened awareness and a heightened attention to detail. 665 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 6: They know that Ant isn't going to be there to 666 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 6: bail them out offensively, and so they have to really 667 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 6: just adhere to the game plan, you know, really dig 668 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 6: deep and be very good in their execution and covering 669 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 6: for each other. And so defensively it's been great. Offensively, 670 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 6: I think the benefit right now for Anthony Edwards taking 671 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 6: a few games off is I do think it's allowed 672 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 6: Jaden McDaniels to find a rhythm that was eluding him. 673 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 6: Julius Rando is being a bit more involved and finding 674 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 6: a little bit better of a flow. You're seeing Dante DiVincenzo, 675 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 6: a lot of these guys that are role players around 676 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 6: and just get a few more touches, get a few 677 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 6: more shots, and build some confidence. And so I think 678 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 6: that the ideal scenario is that Anthony Edwards returns and 679 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 6: all of these guys are playing with more confidence and 680 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 6: so everything is going to just click in a little 681 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 6: bit better around him, and he's not going to have 682 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 6: to carry the load just as much, but they desperately 683 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 6: need Ant for all of the shot making, for the 684 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 6: one on one defense that he can provide in big moments. 685 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 6: But it's been really impressive to see the depths of 686 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 6: the team kind of shine through over these last five 687 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 6: games and just playing a style of basketball that is 688 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 6: a lot more connected and cohesive than they have been 689 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 6: for much of the year. 690 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 3: Okay, is it important to make sure Jayden may Daniels 691 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 3: gets an abundance of touches with Edward's, Julius and de 692 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 3: Vincenzo on the floor, like more than he was getting 693 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 3: on average. 694 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I really believe it is. And Chris Finch has 695 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 6: talked about this pa where they have a baseline of 696 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 6: ten shots for him every game, but I think that 697 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 6: they need to go higher than that. I'd love it 698 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 6: to see around fourteen shots a game because he is 699 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 6: so capable of really kind of taking over, especially in 700 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 6: the half court, using his size and his length to 701 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 6: just shoot over people. And when he is engaged offensively PA, 702 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 6: he's so much better defensively as well. And so he 703 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 6: is the one kind of guy on their team that 704 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 6: is a little bit of a cheap code in terms of, 705 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 6: you know, he can do whatever, and a lot of 706 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 6: times the opponents defense tries to put one of their 707 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 6: weaker defenders on him and load up on Randall and 708 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 6: Edwards and force those guys into isolation basketball. And that's 709 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 6: what the Wolves are at their worst when it's just 710 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 6: Julius or Aunt dribble dribble, dribble dribble taking a contested shot. 711 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 6: But when Jaden is involved, that does mean that the 712 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 6: ball is moving a lot more, and this team is 713 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 6: a lot harder to guard when everyone is moving kind 714 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 6: of moving off of the ball, getting things going, and 715 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 6: then you're finding Jaden for in the flow for the 716 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 6: three point shots, going to the basket, pull up jumpers 717 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 6: in the lane. It's a real weapon that they do 718 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 6: need to continue to exploit PA and they cannot let 719 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 6: Jaden get lost in the Saucier when Ant gets. 720 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 3: Back, Johnny athletic, John Krazinski, jettison your elite journalistic mind 721 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 3: and play the fan for a moment. How would you 722 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 3: feel if the Timberwolves get the Lakers in the first 723 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 3: round and Sam's home court advantage. 724 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm sure they would be nervous, rightfully so, 725 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 6: because Luca is playing out of his mind right now. 726 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,280 Speaker 6: It did not go well for them in the regular 727 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 6: season again the Lakers. But I do think that fans 728 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 6: should go into any series in the first round with 729 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 6: real confidence because one thing that this team has shown 730 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 6: over the last two years is when you give Chris 731 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 6: Finch and this coaching staff a full week to prepare 732 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 6: for a series as they will get assuming that disaster 733 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 6: doesn't strike and they fall into the plan, which they 734 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 6: I don't think they will. But if you give them 735 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 6: a full week to drill down on an opponent, to 736 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 6: really focus and and and Jaden and Nas and everyone 737 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 6: on the game plan, they come out firing in that 738 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 6: first series. They really do play well, they're coached well, 739 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 6: they match up well, and so it would be a 740 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 6: bigger challenge than beating the Lakers last year in the 741 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 6: same series, which is exactly what they did in the 742 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 6: three to six, and they owned the Lakers in that series. 743 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 6: I don't think it would be that easy, especially with 744 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 6: Luca playing as well as he is and with eight 745 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 6: and giving them some presents around the rim. But I 746 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 6: think it's still a It's a absolutely a winnable series 747 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 6: and and something that that they should go into confident 748 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 6: that that they can come out on top of that. 749 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 3: Lastly from me, dare we say Rudy is catching it 750 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 3: better than ever when running to the basket, especially off 751 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 3: the bounce. 752 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 2: Dare we say that? 753 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 6: Yeah? I mean I will say it this way. Yes, 754 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 6: there have been pockets of the season and especially lately 755 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 6: where he is catching it better. There's still times like 756 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,879 Speaker 6: in the Oklahoma City game just a few weeks ago, 757 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 6: where it looked like he was yet, you know, just 758 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 6: grease on his hands and couldn't hold the ball. But 759 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 6: I do think that I would as soon move and 760 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 6: Kyle Anderson in particular PA their additions have been clutched 761 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 6: in that regard, because both of them seem to have 762 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,720 Speaker 6: a good handle on how to pass it to Rudy 763 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,919 Speaker 6: so that it is as catchable as possible for him. 764 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 6: And uh, and that's a that's an art, it's not 765 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,399 Speaker 6: a it's not a skill that you learn. And and 766 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 6: so I think that they are more equipped to utilize 767 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 6: Rudy in the offense that way than they have been 768 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 6: ever before in his four years that he's been here. 769 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 6: We'll still see how it goes in the pressure of 770 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 6: a playoffs, but there's been progress in that regard for sure. 771 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,879 Speaker 1: Most important question you're gonna get all morning as part 772 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: of this And thanks again for the time. Which beer 773 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: should we be getting tonight at headfly or brewing when 774 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: we're there to see you and Micah and everybody involved. 775 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 2: Am I getting the it was all a dream? 776 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: Juicy style say, feels like an atmosphere reference. 777 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 2: Love it. 778 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: Maybe some crunch time for that citrus wheat ale, Like 779 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 1: what kind of beer should I be getting when I 780 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: sit down and watch you guys do the show? 781 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 2: I always love that. 782 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's so many great options. Nordo. Crunch time is 783 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 6: the collaboration that I have with them personally and my 784 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 6: name's on the can and stuff. It's the coolest thing 785 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 6: I've ever done in journalism is to be with the 786 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 6: Headflyer and have my own beer. So recommend that one. 787 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 6: I also recommend if you're a basketball fan and you 788 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 6: want to get into the basketball tidings of the event. 789 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 6: They have one called Wicked jump Shot, which is great 790 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 6: and it Was All a Dream is really really good. 791 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 6: I'm not pandering and I'm not just saying this because 792 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 6: we have a partnership, but they have great beers, they 793 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 6: are great people to support. It's one of the last 794 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 6: live events. They are actually going to close the tap 795 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 6: room and I think another brewery is taking over there. 796 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 6: But these guys have been awesome through the whole way 797 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 6: and they really do a good job with it. You 798 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 6: can still buy the beer in stores, and so yeah, 799 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 6: I would say crunch Time, Wicked jump Shot or it 800 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 6: was All a Dream. You can't go along with any 801 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 6: of those Ed. 802 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:50,919 Speaker 3: Flyer Brewing Tonight Northeast the Johnny Grazinski Show with Mike 803 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,720 Speaker 3: and Norri the lead assistant to Chris Finch. 804 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,359 Speaker 2: Also Jim Suhn will be there. 805 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 3: Tell Sue Dog I said high likewise for Micah and 806 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:58,800 Speaker 3: thank you very much for the conversation. 807 00:39:58,960 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 2: Like Nordos said, it was to. 808 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 6: Awesome. Thanks for having me. Guys appreciate it. 809 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Johnny Athletic nine to New back after 810 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 2: this locket. Speaking of kfan, thanks for listening. 811 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: Kfan, welcome some great shows to not just our favorite 812 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,760 Speaker 1: hockey team, but great musical shows to Grand Casino Arena 813 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 1: in the next year, including Lionel Richie Wait a minute, 814 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: hold on Lionel Richie and earth Wind and Fire on 815 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,320 Speaker 1: June twenty fourth. Tickets are on sale now, I gotta 816 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 1: get some and I'll be doing what you're gonna do. 817 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: You're gonna get the complete details on the upcoming shows 818 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 1: via the concert page kfan dot com. 819 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 3: Heyword calendar, Any earth Wind and Fire in June? Any 820 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 3: idea why Travis Hunter was in town and went to 821 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 3: the Timberwolves game, Like, like, was there some kind of 822 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 3: story or something that I missed? Travis Hunter, Colorado, Dion Colorado, 823 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,280 Speaker 3: Buffalo's Jacksonville Jaguars. 824 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 2: I mean here here. 825 00:40:55,719 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 3: The Timberwolves posted a picture on X Travis and Anthony 826 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 3: Edwards together, and when I was watching the game, you know, 827 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 3: I noticed that they said, Hey, there's Travis Hunter. I 828 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 3: just I have no idea why he was here. 829 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,760 Speaker 1: Well, let me see here trevid So Hunter, I'm seeing 830 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: this via I'm just going off a headlines. He linked 831 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: up with Kevin Durant and Jade McDaniels and Anthony Edwards 832 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: gave him gave him a pair of his unreleased AE 833 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: two's in a green colorway. 834 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of these. 835 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: Guys probably what are the connections? 836 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 2: Let me see k D. Then this is Colorado. I 837 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 2: don't know. 838 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: These guys all love to hang out, Travis Hunter. Maybe 839 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: you know sneaky future Wide Receiver three? What about that? 840 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: Maybe we're trying to make moves or CB three. I'm 841 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:50,919 Speaker 1: Thomas Hunter. 842 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 2: I'm glad. You know. 843 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 3: I'm glad that that you just you know, talked for 844 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 3: a minute and seven seconds filled some space. 845 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm continue to scroll. 846 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: I found I found this deal is and it was 847 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: as I was signing out of X and then I'm like, damn, no, 848 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: I want to look at that. I mean, I felt 849 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: it was perfect for you and I and and if 850 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 1: I'm misrepresenting your take on birthdays, okay, I apologize. But 851 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 1: it was like men who don't care about it was 852 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 1: like facts about and it was it was an average 853 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 1: deals like you know, it wasn't just somebody spouting off 854 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: an opinion. There was corroboration, but it was facts about 855 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: men who don't necessarily care about their birthday. 856 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, did did I represent you fairly in that? 857 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 6: Yeah? 858 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,319 Speaker 1: It's cool to have a birthday, you know, but I 859 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 1: mean I don't need the fanfare. 860 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 861 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 3: Like there's a reason the flight attendant, my son and 862 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 3: a handful of others kept my sixtieth birthday party on 863 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 3: the third floor of Canterbury Park quiet because I mean, 864 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 3: I'm not saying and I would erect it, but I 865 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 3: mean it's just like something that I, generally speaking wouldn't. 866 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 2: Plan, you know what I mean. 867 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I totally am And that was big and 868 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 1: it was bally Hood but it was age sixty you know. 869 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 2: So so was it an article? 870 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 1: Because I did find I found this post facts about 871 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 1: men that don't like birthdays. 872 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 3: Oh, give it to me because they are low maintenance. Okay, 873 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 3: now hold on someth you found it well done? Yeah, 874 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 3: they all are me. I can't speak for you, but 875 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 3: they all are me until you get to the last one. 876 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:36,839 Speaker 2: Okay. Okay, So I think I'm relatively low maintenance. I'm 877 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 2: I'm I'm pretty low maintenance. 878 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: Okay, keep going. They like being alone, thank you. Yeah, 879 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 1: only child syndrome over here. Absence makes the heart grow fonder. 880 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,320 Speaker 1: They're used to making themselves happy. Okay, yes, no problem 881 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: with that. They measure life and progress and not dates. 882 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, I'm not a goal oriented person because so 883 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 2: many things change, Like you set a goal for June first, 884 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 2: and so many things change up to it that, like 885 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 2: the gold doesn't matter anymore. 886 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely, they pour into others more than they receive. 887 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I would agree with that. I can't say 888 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 3: that I'm that person. Other people are supposed to say 889 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 3: you're that person. But I'll roll the dice. 890 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: They don't like drama, thriving it, thrive, craving it. 891 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 3: Not on Fridays, but craving it, craving it. 892 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 2: Not quite comfortable in Drama's quite. 893 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 3: Let's go all right, Thank you very much for listening 894 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 3: to a drama free version of Nine to Noon four. 895 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,840 Speaker 2: Eric Nordquist the producer. I'm Paul Allen. 896 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,839 Speaker 3: The program is next featuring program Password, which is fantastic. 897 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 3: God bless all of you and to make God bless 898 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 3: your families have wonderful weekends. And thanks for listening to 899 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 3: kfa in and nine to noon, Bye nine to noon. 900 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: Hmm it is Good News of Money podcast Today's Paul 901 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 1: Allen Show, or listen back to previous show and interviews 902 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: by going to the iHeartRadio app or kfa n on 903 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:12,879 Speaker 1: com