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Speaker 1: We're going to take some calls. Anything you want to

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Speaker 1: talk about, So let's get to it. Hey, Kathy, Welcome home.

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Speaker 3: Hi Dean, thanks so much for taking my call and

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Speaker 3: I appreciate your show. I have a question about some

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Speaker 3: LED dimmable clear light bulbs that I put in a

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Speaker 3: because LED isn't supposed to get hot, and within about

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Speaker 3: five minutes the metal shade was super hot. I'm just

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Speaker 3: during why that might be okay.

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Speaker 1: So it's in a floor lamp, and the floor lamp

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Speaker 1: has its own dimmer switch, like a rolling dimmer switch

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Speaker 3: Uh not yet, I was going to plug it into

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Speaker 3: a dimmer switch. It's for a Airbnb and the original lamp,

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Speaker 3: the base fell apart the I guess it's called a loader,

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Speaker 3: the weighted part. So until I repair that, I put

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Speaker 3: attach it to a dimmer but right now it's just

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Speaker 3: three individual bulbs and they just turn on turnoff.

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Speaker 1: Really just individual bulbs that are turning on turning off,

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Speaker 1: and there's no dimmer switch attached to them right now

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Speaker 3: No, So it's a pole lamp with one shade and

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Speaker 3: then a little further up another shade, and then a

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Speaker 3: little further up another shade. Yeah, they're just either on

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Speaker 3: B people don't always they're not always mindful of when

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, okay, so I can tell you this, Kathy.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's a problem because a clear led bulbs,

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Speaker 1: of cooling mechanisms that other bulbs, frosted bulbs that are

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Speaker 1: in fact, well always a clear decorator bulb will in

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Speaker 1: They will definitely be cooler than the clear wins that

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Speaker 1: Otherwise the lights will start to strobe out on you,

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Speaker 3: Okay, I appreciate that. Yeah, it had a bigger frosted

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Speaker 3: I needed a dimmer that was compatible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, they make every imaginable kind.

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Speaker 1: Uh. Well, you know what, I take that back, because

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure I've seen the the the big knob

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Speaker 1: Some people have LED compatible dimmers and they just buy

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Speaker 1: the dimmer has to say LED compatible, then they'll made

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Speaker 4: I think probably is not LED compatible and I've used

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Speaker 4: it for years and never had the strobing, is that okay?

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Speaker 1: It probably is LED compatible. Then if you've used it

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Speaker 3: Okay. Well I bought it way before they even had

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Speaker 3: LED bulbs, so I better switch out because I'm pretty

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Speaker 3: sure it's not okay. Thanks so much, Dean. I really

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Speaker 1: You're so welcome, Kathy. Thanks for the call and for

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Speaker 2: For another episode of the House Whisper podcast. I am

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Speaker 2: just glad that you are here with us. Good morning

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Speaker 2: calls weekend, Dan, welcome home.

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Speaker 5: Good morning, Dean.

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Speaker 3: How are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm well, sir. How you doing very good?

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Speaker 5: Very good.

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Speaker 6: I'm curious about sodium borate as of wood preservative on

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Speaker 6: new construction or remodels. I'm going through a little bit

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Speaker 6: of a remodel and my contractor recommended a borrate preservative,

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Speaker 6: and I'm just curious on if you've heard of it,

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Speaker 6: if you've got any thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Well, bor rates are actually a common preservative for wood,

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Speaker 1: and they also bear the advantage of being an anti

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Speaker 1: moisture and an anti insect. Oh, you got a little

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Speaker 1: bit of background noise there, Dan, You must be in

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Speaker 1: the car traveling there. I'm just gonna I'm just gonna

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Borates are they're they're.

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Speaker 1: Just everybody knows. Sodium borate is a natural mineral and

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Speaker 1: there's nothing weird about it. But it's got a lot

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Speaker 1: of pretty magical properties. As I said, we use it

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Speaker 1: in cellulose insulation all the time and it is a

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Speaker 1: great expeller of moisture. As a result, it works well

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Speaker 1: did I just say I did that it has a

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Speaker 1: lot of anti insect anti termite properties as well. Termites

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Speaker 1: do not enjoy ingesting borates. It's toxic to them. It's

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Speaker 1: and so it has a lot of just generally good properties.

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Speaker 3: Dan.

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Speaker 1: Now, some people don't want to invest in treating their

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Speaker 1: framing with bor rates before they cover it up. That's,

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Speaker 1: of course, a totally independent decision for you to make.

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Speaker 1: But we've had you know, I don't want to say

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Speaker 1: we've had certain wood framing members on houses treated with

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Speaker 1: It's the herd. It's hard to prove a negative where

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Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you put this stuff on your wood,

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Speaker 6: I appreciate I really appreciate them. But I've been doing

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Speaker 6: a little research myself, and it looks like it's got

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Speaker 6: some fire properties as well, which is really curious to me.

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Speaker 1: And you know why, I know why it has you

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Speaker 1: know why it has fire properties.

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Speaker 2: This is weird, this weird bit.

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Speaker 1: But sodium borate has a has Like I said, it

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Speaker 1: has a moisture issue. It has moisture. How do I

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Speaker 1: put it. I'll just I'll explain it this way. In

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Speaker 1: cellulose insulation, sodium borate, once it gets heat eated up

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Speaker 1: and exposed a high heat, it actually expels moisture. It'll

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Speaker 1: to the surface. And so yeah, it's the same way

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Speaker 1: it works in cellulose insulation. Whatever moisture is in the material,

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Speaker 1: as the sodium borate heats up, it actually brings that

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Speaker 2: So it is. It is pretty outstanding stuff.

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Speaker 6: I really appreciate. Yeah, it seems like a no brainer

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Speaker 6: to me, with the costs not being very expensive at

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Speaker 6: all and trying to be proactive, it just seems like

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Speaker 6: a good idea. But I want to just get your

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Speaker 6: view on it. I appreciate your time, all right.

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Speaker 1: My friend, I appreciate the call and the question. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk to Robbie. Hey, Robbie, welcome home.

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Speaker 7: My problem there are two large trees. I'm taking over

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Speaker 7: my grandmother's property. There are two large trees in the

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Speaker 7: front yard. The roots are exposed. I believe they're causing

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Speaker 7: the sidewalk in front to crack. I want to know,

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Speaker 7: can it be corrected or must I remove the trees?

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Speaker 1: Well, I hope you don't remove the trees, especially if

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Speaker 1: they're big, beautiful trees and they are contributing to the

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Speaker 1: overall aesthetic and look of the home, and most southern

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Speaker 1: California homes, in my opinion, need more trees. So surface roots.

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Speaker 1: This is the question. Surface roots. If these are really old,

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Speaker 2: Welcome home. All calls.

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Speaker 1: Persistence matters, you will make it through. Hey Scott, welcome home, Bhi.

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Speaker 5: Dean, I've got it. Nineteen eighty six house and I

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Speaker 5: Two store downstairs stays tindigrees cooler than the upstairs. My

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Speaker 1: Okay, so your concern is that the vents are too

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Speaker 5: Like the airflow I feel would be better in the

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: Vents over entry doors are really a hilarious thing. Well,

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Speaker 1: It isn't. When you take a look at your entire

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Speaker 1: You know, it's hotter upstairs than it is downstairs. Classic situation.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's called science because heat rises and cold

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Speaker 1: Have the vent there. It's a very very simple idea. Guys,

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Speaker 1: You've got to realize that it's a recirculating system for

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Speaker 1: all of those small vents that are blowing into rooms, bedrooms,

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Speaker 1: And your HVAC system is not some high pressure system

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Speaker 2: Does that make sense, Scott?

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Dean, That's what I was thinking. But you're

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Speaker 5: the best.

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Speaker 6: You and Tina are both the best.

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Speaker 5: How's that?

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Speaker 1: Well, she will very much appreciate hearing that she actually

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Speaker 1: thank you very much, Scott. Good luck on that. Usually,

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Speaker 1: especially for those upstairs rooms which are so critical for you,

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Speaker 1: doors yet, No, I'm.

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Speaker 9: Looking online for places, but mixed reviews of every place

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Speaker 9: I'm looking, and I know, you know, everyone has their

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Speaker 9: own opinions of places, so you take them how you

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Speaker 9: want them. But do you have any recommendations of where

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Speaker 9: to purchase door fronts and drawer fronts? And then that's

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Speaker 9: utching around the count of time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, so first of all, where to purchase.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you don't find exactly what you're looking

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Speaker 1: for online, then get some advice from the people at

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Speaker 1: the kitchen store. Honestly, you should call them up and say, okay,

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Speaker 1: here's my situation. Especially if you've got any odd sized doors,

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Speaker 1: they can definitely help you out with that because they've

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Speaker 1: got the they got the line on multiple different brands

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Speaker 1: and multiple different lines of cabinet doors. Uh, the cab

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Speaker 1: the cabinet door that you're looking to replace your existing

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Speaker 1: ones with. Is it a raised panel door? Is it

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Speaker 1: like a flat shaker door? What do you what are

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Speaker 1: you thinking? What's the planet?

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Speaker 9: It's it's the house is built in ninety three, so

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Speaker 9: it and it used to be like a honey oak,

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Speaker 9: and I stand in a little bit darker so it's

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Speaker 9: not so yucky looking. So it's kind of raised ish

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Speaker 9: has some detail on it that we don't like anymore,

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Speaker 9: but we are looking at going more playing as a

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Speaker 9: shaker style cabinet doorfront and doorfronts.

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Speaker 6: So well.

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Speaker 1: The reason I yeah, the reason I asked is because

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Speaker 1: one of the big things about cabinet doors that a

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Speaker 1: lot of people aren't really aware of. If you're using

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Speaker 1: now you if you're going for a shaker, which is

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Speaker 1: a framed exterior and a flat panel in the center,

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Speaker 1: then you're good. You're good with you know, you don't

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Speaker 1: have to follow this particular piece of advice because that

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Speaker 1: center shaker panel some in almost every shaker door you

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Speaker 1: would buy, it's some form of a piece of vineyard plywood,

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Speaker 1: which is a good thing. That's a good thing, not

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Speaker 1: a bad thing. Some cabinet doors these days that have

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Speaker 1: raised panels, some people think, oh, well, I got.

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Speaker 2: To go with the stain.

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Speaker 1: Grade door because that's the solid wood panel, and that

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Speaker 1: must be the best, because all these other doors that

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Speaker 1: are paint grade have an MDF panel, like a medium

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Speaker 1: density fiberboard panel, even with a wood frame around them,

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Speaker 1: and that doesn't seem right. And yet that's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: For those of you who are thinking about doing this

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Speaker 1: because when it comes to a paint grade cabinet, we

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Speaker 1: always use an MDF fiberboard center panel because it won't

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Speaker 1: split and they're notorious of solid wood interior raised panels

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Speaker 1: are notorious for sometimes cracking and splitting along the grain line.

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Speaker 2: But that doesn't apply to you, Laura.

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Speaker 1: I'm just laying that out there for everybody else who's

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Speaker 1: thinking about replacing their cabinet doors. There are so many

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Speaker 1: good suppliers of Shaker style cabinet doors that I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to find one, But you know,

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Speaker 1: give the kitchen store ring too and get some advice

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Speaker 1: along those lines, because there are multiple sources to find them.

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Speaker 1: Some of them are put together better than others, and

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Speaker 1: so that's what yeah, yeah, And that's that's what you

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Speaker 1: want to be looking for for sure. Uh And if

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Speaker 1: you if there's anywhere where you can get either a

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Speaker 1: sample or get hands on or eyes on, I would

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Speaker 1: always recommend that first before committing to it, because even

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Speaker 1: though you're not replacing all your cabinets, it's still it's

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Speaker 1: still a big pull to replace all of the doors

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Speaker 1: and drawerfronts in the kitchen. Now, let's talk about the

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Speaker 1: the stuff that you've got left over. If you're replacing

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Speaker 1: doors and drawerfronts, Okay, then you don't have to worry

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Speaker 1: about much prep on the new one because they're coming

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Speaker 1: in raw and ready to rock and roll for your paint.

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Speaker 1: Just I assume that, And the best thing to do

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Speaker 1: is to order them either raw and or pre primed,

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Speaker 1: and that's always a great primed Yeah, yeah, pre primed

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Speaker 1: from the factory is just a fantastic way to go

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Speaker 1: because they're basically paint ready for you. Okay, you just

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Speaker 1: make sure they're clean and dust free and they're paint

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Speaker 1: ready and ready to go. Now, as far as the

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Speaker 1: existing face frame of your cabinet, when we say sanding, okay,

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Speaker 1: I just want to make it really clear you're not

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Speaker 1: restaining these cabinets, you're painting them.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So when we say sand, we do not need to

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Speaker 1: sand these cabinets all the way down to bear wood.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: What we're looking to do is number one, we want

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Speaker 1: to make sure those frames are cleaned up, nice and clean,

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Speaker 1: and we want to basically sand them just enough to

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Speaker 1: open up the porosity of the finish that's on there. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So we want to dull the finish. And if you've

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Speaker 1: successfully dulled the finish and then wipe them down super

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Speaker 1: clean and ready, then chances are they are ready for

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Speaker 1: paint at that point, because you know, the cabinets have

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Speaker 1: got paint or stain on them, and then they've got

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Speaker 1: a polyurethane finish on them that may or may not

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Speaker 1: be in great shape after the years have gone by.

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Speaker 1: You want to get to the point where you've opened

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Speaker 1: up the porosity simply so that the paint is going

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Speaker 1: to grab onto that surface and not peel and chip away.

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Speaker 1: And the same is true with that little strip around

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Speaker 1: the edge of the countertop. I hope it's not plastic,

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Speaker 1: because that would be weird. First of all, chances are

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Speaker 1: it's probably a highly because it's an edge piece. It's

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Speaker 1: probably a piece of wood with a lot of polyurethane

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Speaker 1: on it. Okay, So again we're talking about a very

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Speaker 1: a very fine, relatively fine grip of sand paper. And again,

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Speaker 1: because you're painting it, you're not really worried about messing up.

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Speaker 1: You know, even if it is plastic, messing up you

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Speaker 1: know some veneer that's printed on it. Okay, So we're

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Speaker 1: talking about very very light, very very small grit sand

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Speaker 1: paper to again take off sort of burnish, take off

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Speaker 1: the shine of that edge piece without changing its form

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Speaker 1: or digging into it. And I think chances are very

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Speaker 1: very likely, maybe ninety eight percent chance. You just take

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Speaker 1: off any kind of shine that it's got, clean it

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Speaker 1: up real good, it'll be ready for paint.

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Speaker 9: And can I use the same cabinet paint for that

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Speaker 9: edging of the countertop?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say so.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you've got a cab quality paint, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: then that's where you should go with that edging piece,

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Speaker 1: because if that's part of the color.

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Speaker 2: Scheme, then then use that there as well. Does that

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Speaker 2: make sense?

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Speaker 9: Great? Thank you so much for your hop. I really

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Speaker 9: appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: You're so welcome, Lauren. Thank you for the call, really

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Speaker 1: really great question. More of your calls to come. You're

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