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Speaker 2: All right, let's get it going on this Monday night.
Speaker 2: Of it's Monday, it must be Bengals Line, and that
Speaker 2: means three hours of conversation breaking it all down. You'll
Speaker 2: hear from coaches and players. We'll sort through thirty nine
Speaker 2: thirty four, a loss in Buffalo yesterday. We'll look ahead
Speaker 2: of the Ravens this weekend. Lance Bacallister, Dave Lapham, thanks
Speaker 2: for joining us. Settle in. We've got you over the
Speaker 2: course of those next three hours. And David, it couldn't
Speaker 2: have started any better yesterday with the opening drive and
Speaker 2: the way things were clicking. I felt good at fourteen
Speaker 2: to three, I felt good at twenty one to eleven.
Speaker 2: I felt really good at twenty eight to eighteen. I
Speaker 2: allowed myself to run scenarios through my head, and I'm
Speaker 2: thinking about what's going on and the rest of the vision,
Speaker 2: and then seemingly, in the blink of an eye, it
Speaker 2: goes from a ten point lead to an eleven point
Speaker 2: deficit and everything changed.
Speaker 3: It did, I mean, and it did in like four
Speaker 3: and a half five minutes. I mean, it was it
Speaker 3: was amazing. Turnovers, you know, I mean, that's the that's
Speaker 3: the plague, that's that's what every team wants to avoid
Speaker 3: if they possibly can. They want to generate turnovers, cause
Speaker 3: turnovers from the opposition, but they certainly don't want to
Speaker 3: give the football away like the Bengals did. And for
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow to have interceptions on back to back throws,
Speaker 3: I haven't really checked with him yet to see if
Speaker 3: that's ever happened to him at any level of football,
Speaker 3: whether it be Pop Warner High school, college or the
Speaker 3: National Football League. But that that is a rarity for sure.
Speaker 3: And the bottom line is you just have to have
Speaker 3: to finish drives. I mean, they Bengals had to lead
Speaker 3: for three quarters three quarters of the football game, didn't
Speaker 3: They didn't spit the bit till till the fourth quarter
Speaker 3: of the of the game. But you have to you
Speaker 3: have to give Buffalo credit. They just they wouldn't go away.
Speaker 3: I mean when they got down by three scores, they're like,
Speaker 3: you know, this game's not over. We're gonna keep Brian,
Speaker 3: We're gonna keep doing what we do. And two quarterbacks
Speaker 3: were off the charts, I mean, outstanding what they what
Speaker 3: they are able to accomplish in the in the game yesterday.
Speaker 3: But the big difference four touchdown passes Joe Burrow the
Speaker 3: two interceptions. Uh you look at Josh Allen, three touchdown passes,
Speaker 3: no interceptions. That was the that was the big difference
Speaker 3: in the game, and that gave him a quarterback rating
Speaker 3: a one thirty nine point seven. Uh perfect is what
Speaker 3: one fifty four point seven or something like that or
Speaker 3: one fifty seven point four whatever it is. Joe Burrow
Speaker 3: one on six point seven pretty damn strong as well.
Speaker 3: But those two interceptions were the difference in the game.
Speaker 2: Boy, in a day, against the backdrop of a snow
Speaker 2: globe like environment, with the snow coming down on a
Speaker 2: Rockers crowd, you'd saying it was one of the loudest
Speaker 2: crowds he's ever heard. You got two heavyweight quarterbacks, you've
Speaker 2: got a Bengals lead, and I'm thinking of Steelers are
Speaker 2: playing the Ravens. Somebody's gonna lose in that matchup. If
Speaker 2: you get to five and eight. Now you're you're really
Speaker 2: cooking about possibilities, and just we've seen so many times
Speaker 2: that combination of a missed opportunities and the merging of
Speaker 2: air so slim. It just everything has to go perfect,
Speaker 2: and as you've alluded to it, just it wasn't perfect yesterday.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean when you're when you're playing against a
Speaker 3: playoff caliber team like the Buffalo Bills, like you mentioned
Speaker 3: the margin ferres nil, I mean, you have to play
Speaker 3: as perfect the football game as you're capable of playing.
Speaker 2: And Davids you mentioned the word playoff. I was struck
Speaker 2: in and listening to postgame interviews the number of different
Speaker 2: players who alluded to the feel yesterday, and that's maybe
Speaker 2: reinforces just how missed the opportunity was, because I think
Speaker 2: everybody realized that was, in essence, a playoff game for
Speaker 2: the Bengals. If you were going to make the playoffs,
Speaker 2: you had to win yesterday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was a playoff atmosphere. Like you mention
Speaker 3: in the raucous crowd, I mean they were they were
Speaker 3: in full throat and they were off the charts.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: Their support for the Buffalo Bills is second to none.
Speaker 3: I mean, their psycho that fan base.
Speaker 2: It's a good work they were doing yesterday.
Speaker 3: Exactly exactly. Yeah, he was. He was kind of scratching
Speaker 3: his head over that one a little bit. But you know,
Speaker 3: those are the kind of games you have to win
Speaker 3: to make the playoffs, and the Bengals came up just short.
Speaker 2: Let's uh, let's pick up a reaction immediately after the game.
Speaker 2: Here is Dave with the coach, Zach Taylor.
Speaker 3: Tough football game against the uh, the Buffalo Bills. Here
Speaker 3: in Buffalo, Coach, it was well played, high scoring football game.
Speaker 3: Your offense took advantage just about every position they had
Speaker 3: other than a couple and uncharacteristically, Joe Borrow gets intercepted
Speaker 3: on back to back possessions that obviously were a big
Speaker 3: factor in the outcome. What did you think about your
Speaker 3: offense overall?
Speaker 5: Yeah, we did a great job moving the ball and
Speaker 5: found some success in the run game and got what
Speaker 5: we needed guys we need in the run game, found
Speaker 5: all success in the pass game. They made two great
Speaker 5: plays on those turnovers in the fourth quarter and gave
Speaker 5: them some momentum.
Speaker 3: The run game. I thought that U, samaj p Ron
Speaker 3: and Chase Brown gave you a nice one two punch.
Speaker 3: Thought that, Uh Samaji in particular, really I thought showed
Speaker 3: some some power. He's got good foot speed to set
Speaker 3: the speed, but man, he was he was thumping people
Speaker 3: pretty well. He's an all around guy. I mean he
Speaker 3: can run the football with power and speed, catch football
Speaker 3: out of the backfield, tuck it away and keep the
Speaker 3: football safe and gain yards after catch. And also he's
Speaker 3: a hell of a blocker. I mean he'll stick his
Speaker 3: nose right in there and blitz to pick up on.
Speaker 5: He Yeah, he's a great player. That's that's obviously where
Speaker 5: we thought to get him back. And he and Chase
Speaker 5: in combination with each other, I think are a great
Speaker 5: danam of backs. They came from each other really well.
Speaker 5: They understand what we're trying to get out of out
Speaker 5: of each play that they're in there, and they both
Speaker 5: are are huge value for us.
Speaker 3: You completed a high percentage your passes for significant yards
Speaker 3: and four touchdown passes to hell, all of a hell
Speaker 3: of a deal. You don't you don't get four touchdown
Speaker 3: passes every week. In the National Football League. What about
Speaker 3: your passing attack utilized the tight ends. I thought Gasiki
Speaker 3: in particularly had a very strong game for you today,
Speaker 3: didn't he.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he did, and and I thought our offensive line
Speaker 5: did a great job. Joe understood the coverages and where
Speaker 5: they're trying to do. They do a good job disguising.
Speaker 5: They tried to do a great job of taking away Jamar,
Speaker 5: so we still want to try to get Jamar and
Speaker 5: the ball, which we did in some different ways. But
Speaker 5: it opens it up for a lot of other guys.
Speaker 5: That's why you saw t you have the game he had.
Speaker 5: I guess like he had the game he had. Andre
Speaker 5: made some big plays for us, So we're okay doing that.
Speaker 5: That's how they want to play a game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were playing a lot of combination coverage on
Speaker 3: on both Jamar and Tegue and changing it up a
Speaker 3: little bit. That's when Gasiki obviously stepped up and took
Speaker 3: advantage of his opportunities and and made plays. Is T.
Speaker 3: Higgins he got stung a little bit there. He was
Speaker 3: out for their snappers. So he had a pretty good
Speaker 3: football game today. See Okay, Yeah he did.
Speaker 5: He responded well, and I think they just evaluated him
Speaker 5: and he was good to go.
Speaker 3: So let's talk about your your defensive football team. Obviously,
Speaker 3: a lot of points were scored, but honestly, I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm not saying they played a great game, but I
Speaker 3: thought that there were stretches where they were making plays.
Speaker 3: I mean, Josh Allen is a tough guy to deal with.
Speaker 3: He can he can throw the football and he's got
Speaker 3: good accuracy. Maybe not as good this year as in
Speaker 3: past years, but man, he's a big, strong guy that
Speaker 3: can run. Big boy. He's uh, he's he's he's a load.
Speaker 3: What about Josh Allen? How do you think the defense
Speaker 3: did today defending him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a tough player obviously, and they got a
Speaker 5: great running back, great offensive line in front of him.
Speaker 5: I think, you know, it comes down to those those
Speaker 5: fourth down plays. There was there was four of them
Speaker 5: to my eye, and they converted on three of them.
Speaker 5: We got a huge stop on one at the end
Speaker 5: of the second half, and ultimately it's it's like you said,
Speaker 5: the guys, there was opportunities there where they did a
Speaker 5: great job and first three downs and those fourth downs,
Speaker 5: Allen did a great job extent of the play and
Speaker 5: find a way to make one.
Speaker 3: Speaking of a fourth down, you didn't really have to
Speaker 3: do too many because your third down percentage was unbelievable.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it was like what eight over
Speaker 3: eighty percent in the National Football League. To convert like
Speaker 3: that on third down, that's that's extraordinary. It doesn't happen
Speaker 3: every single week. What was the key to the success
Speaker 3: converting on third down?
Speaker 5: I thought we had a great point, you know, agree
Speaker 5: and players understood it, executed it, did their jobs, did
Speaker 5: a great job protecting up front. Joe did a great
Speaker 5: job with any checks he had to make and delivered a.
Speaker 2: Balls Zach Taylor after the game. Plenty more to dissect,
Speaker 2: breakdown and analyze as we navigate three hours tonight, we'll
Speaker 2: hear from QB one Joe Burrow ahead, He's Dave Lapham,
Speaker 2: I glance, but Catleister, thanks for being with us tonight.
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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow Yesterday twenty five of thirty six passing two
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty four yards. He was sacked just one
Speaker 2: time through four touchdowns. The two picks final quarterback rating
Speaker 2: of one six point seven. Here's QB one after the game.
Speaker 6: Can we get your vantage.
Speaker 7: Point on on what happened on those you interception?
Speaker 8: Yeah, great play, great plays by them. Uh, corner blitz
Speaker 8: and you know, tryna throw a hot reaction and the
Speaker 8: guy jumps up and catches it. Great play. Next one
Speaker 8: tip ball lands in the right that guy's hands.
Speaker 3: So wow.
Speaker 8: Yeah, good plays by Now did.
Speaker 9: You feel like you guys were kind of playing the
Speaker 9: exact type of game you wanted to play before.
Speaker 10: Those two, like exactly how you would have scripted.
Speaker 8: It out to build in. Yeah, we were playing pretty good.
Speaker 8: We were playing pretty good. You know, we gotta we
Speaker 8: gotta turn over in the red zone.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 8: We spout it on a couple drives, but for the
Speaker 8: most part, we were moving it pretty good. Uh, we
Speaker 8: were in a good spot, a top child.
Speaker 11: Then was that first half especially and let them down perspective?
Speaker 12: And how did you walk out to the field in
Speaker 12: the second.
Speaker 7: Half of when you was going through your mind?
Speaker 8: Yeah, we we were executing, We were executing, lamas protecting,
Speaker 8: we were making plays. Uh, you know, we d we
Speaker 8: were doing a good.
Speaker 7: Job, right, You put on differently on that? Then group.
Speaker 8: Could have thrown it higher, I guess, but the linebacker
Speaker 8: was running out there underneath of it, so if I
Speaker 8: threw it higher, he might've gotten involved too. Not really,
Speaker 8: that was our reaction to that.
Speaker 7: Is this just one of those games?
Speaker 3: Did you like the playoff game with the team.
Speaker 7: That just was able to make a couple of those plays?
Speaker 7: We was gonna wait, did doel like that? And Don
Speaker 7: went outstretch.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know it was playoff, a playoff atmosphere. We
Speaker 8: know what kind of game it was for us? Did
Speaker 8: them too? And then? Uh yeah, it was just it
Speaker 8: was intense out there. Guys are fighting their butts off.
Speaker 13: Those show me anything different uh than on than what
Speaker 13: you saw a film this week.
Speaker 8: They always do do things a little different against us,
Speaker 8: but that's what we expected. They were mixing a lot
Speaker 8: of things up. They started pressure more in the second half.
Speaker 8: I thought we handled it well. Wow, oh yeah, we
Speaker 8: we kind of we knew what to expect. We knew
Speaker 8: how they liked to play us from from past meetings.
Speaker 8: And uh we had the answers when.
Speaker 14: You blobby hard for the team to sign the tachagainst
Speaker 14: the admission to dur this off season, y'all just say,
Speaker 14: didn't get much opportunity to see how it all looked.
Speaker 14: Is this like what you would envisioned, the type of
Speaker 14: office that you guys could be and the type of
Speaker 14: outfit that you would be to an opponent when you
Speaker 14: guys are.
Speaker 8: All being like you did today, Yeah, we know, we
Speaker 8: know what we can be. We know what we can
Speaker 8: do and when we execute. Uh, and we were able
Speaker 8: to execute today for the most part. And uh, it's
Speaker 8: gotta do more.
Speaker 3: School was at.
Speaker 15: Forward, throwing forward your last four games, your mental al
Speaker 15: how'd you approach the last four names?
Speaker 8: Just go and play well? Uh, go and have fun
Speaker 8: play football. That's what I love to do. So so
Speaker 8: I'm gonna keep doing I'm gonna keep doing it at
Speaker 8: a high level.
Speaker 11: Is a differ to have.
Speaker 7: Well, have played atmosphere today, but no one that you
Speaker 7: know just might be the only try to get at
Speaker 7: that deal of the season. Everyone got to do that
Speaker 7: for the last couple of years, and now a frustrating
Speaker 7: thing does that.
Speaker 4: All of us?
Speaker 8: Yeah, obviously we're not where where we wanna be, as
Speaker 8: you know a team or an organization. Four nine is
Speaker 8: not not good. Uh, but you know we got four
Speaker 8: games to go and show high level execution, high level
Speaker 8: play play making. Uh. I'm gonna realize the the opportunity
Speaker 8: to to go out and play play with these guys
Speaker 8: and continue to try to put on a show for
Speaker 8: for everybody watching. I hope that, uh that comes across
Speaker 8: and I hope that, Uh. I know, I'm gonna continue
Speaker 8: to to work hard to put myself in a good
Speaker 8: position to make plays.
Speaker 10: Is the word thing, Joe that you see most like help?
Speaker 13: The whole offense is help.
Speaker 11: You can help that you guys that you just might be.
Speaker 10: Out of time now with what out the business.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that's uh, that's how the cookie crumbled
Speaker 8: this year.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 8: You know, obviously I would've loved to have been out
Speaker 8: there more and and be able to to make an
Speaker 8: impact by that wasn't the case. And you know, I
Speaker 8: found my found my bet off to to get back
Speaker 8: to this spot and to be able to be out
Speaker 8: there with everybody and for our organization in the city.
Speaker 8: So that's what we'm gonna continue to do. I Uh,
Speaker 8: I take it very seriously. I I love what I
Speaker 8: do and I'm gonna continue to do it.
Speaker 13: A play with a game, right, some of the catchers
Speaker 13: that Higgins made today, what what do your so many
Speaker 13: descriptions as to your relationship with him and how would
Speaker 13: you do what to this make spectacular place like that?
Speaker 8: Yeah, teas great. Tea's great. Uh and both of those
Speaker 8: guys that Jamorrow Tea know that teams are gonna have
Speaker 8: different plans to take one of them away. And you
Speaker 8: know they did not want Number one to beat them today,
Speaker 8: and so when that happens, then he's got to step
Speaker 8: up and make big plays, which he did and something
Speaker 8: we would have liked to have back too. Mike g
Speaker 8: made a ton of players today. We had guys making
Speaker 8: plays all over the field, and you know, unfortunately we
Speaker 8: just weren't able to pull it out.
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow after the game and Dave I mentioned the
Speaker 2: opening drive and it couldn't have started any better. They
Speaker 2: win the toss, they decided to take the ball. They
Speaker 2: go fourteen plays, sixty seven yards, click eight point fifteen
Speaker 2: off the clock. They run seven times, they passed seven times,
Speaker 2: They convert four third downs, t had three catches coming
Speaker 2: back from the concussion, and everything was rolling right out
Speaker 2: of the shoot.
Speaker 3: It really was. I mean, to go on a long
Speaker 3: sustained drive like that, you know, out of the box,
Speaker 3: the crowd is going nuts. You know, the best way
Speaker 3: to silence them is do exactly what they did. And
Speaker 3: you know, the crowd really really couldn't believe it. But
Speaker 3: T Higgins, man, did he have a you know, I guess,
Speaker 3: for lack of a better term of coming out party
Speaker 3: after that, after that concussion. I mean, he was he
Speaker 3: was phenomenal. Targeted eleven times, Joe Burrow was going to
Speaker 3: him because Jamar was getting a lot of attention. Man,
Speaker 3: he really was. And Higgins six catches ninety two yards
Speaker 3: of twenty five yard touchdown another touchdown catch to tow
Speaker 3: of Joe Burrow's four touchdown passes went to T Higgins,
Speaker 3: and that one handed catch he made for the touchdown
Speaker 3: was just, I mean, the thing of beauty. You talk
Speaker 3: about eye hand coordination, athleticism and such a big body
Speaker 3: guy to be able to do things like that. You know,
Speaker 3: you'd expect, you know, a small, little you know, athlete
Speaker 3: to be able to do those kind of things, but
Speaker 3: to have the range and the size and the strength
Speaker 3: that t. Higgins has and to be able to do
Speaker 3: what he does in those situations separate him. I mean,
Speaker 3: he's a very unique, rare talent.
Speaker 2: On the Benford picked six and by the way he
Speaker 2: I read this morning, he becomes the first Buffalo Bill
Speaker 2: to score a defensive touchdown and back to back games
Speaker 2: in their franchise is history.
Speaker 16: Wow.
Speaker 2: What did you see as that play unfolded? And what
Speaker 2: a play he made?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think Joe basically was shocked that
Speaker 3: he jumped so high, you know, I mean, it's the guy.
Speaker 3: The guy had uh he had coverage on on that,
Speaker 3: but he was kind of in between should I pressure?
Speaker 3: Should I cover? You know, and and he was kind
Speaker 3: of between the rocking and rocking a hard place. And
Speaker 3: then Joe kind of was I guess a little bit too.
Speaker 3: But and he thought he put enough loft on the ball.
Speaker 3: You know, he tried to feather it in there, but uh, man,
Speaker 3: ben for just he showed some athletics and man, I
Speaker 3: mean he he skied for that thing, and then it
Speaker 3: was it was an easy pick six. There was nobody
Speaker 3: that was going to stop him. There's nobody in his way.
Speaker 3: Nobody was going to deter him from uh running into
Speaker 3: the end zone. But man, that was I'm sure. I'm
Speaker 3: sure after right after Joe let that ball go out
Speaker 3: of his head and was like, oh no, please no,
Speaker 3: and it good football. Guds didn't no doubt, no doubt,
Speaker 3: still ahead. Mike Kasicki had quite a day. We'll talk
Speaker 3: about that here from him as we continue. It's Bengals
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Speaker 2: We continue on on this Monday night at Bengals Line,
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Speaker 2: Dave Lap I'm talking about yesterday's defeat at Buffalo thirty
Speaker 2: nine thirty four of the final score. Let's stick on
Speaker 2: the offensive side of things for a bit in this hour,
Speaker 2: and Mike Kasicki six catches yesterday, six targets, six catches,
Speaker 2: eighty six yards and a touchdown. He talks with Dave
Speaker 2: after the game.
Speaker 3: Mike, what was the what was the reason for your
Speaker 3: what was the reason for your success? Did you expect
Speaker 3: it during the course of the week when the game
Speaker 3: plan was put together? Was it just something that took
Speaker 3: place today? The way they covered you the way you
Speaker 3: knew you could beat people. What took place today?
Speaker 17: Do you think there's always opportunity in the game plan.
Speaker 17: It just depends on what comes up and how the
Speaker 17: defenses are playing and the flow of the game. So
Speaker 17: you know, you always anticipate, you know, going out there
Speaker 17: and making plays.
Speaker 4: And today, you know, the.
Speaker 8: Ball came away a couple of times and I.
Speaker 3: Was able to make some plays. This was your This
Speaker 3: is a big game for you, man, biggest game of
Speaker 3: the year. You are a talented individual in terms of
Speaker 3: you got great size. Uh what six 's five? Anyway,
Speaker 3: aren't you? And U two hundred and twenty five and
Speaker 3: thirty pounds? But can run and you're in the slot
Speaker 3: today you were doing a lot of receiver work in
Speaker 3: getting matchups mismatches on safeties and corner Is that a
Speaker 3: big part of your game?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 17: I mean they just allow me to be me and
Speaker 17: go out there and you know, maybe don't always run
Speaker 17: their routes the you know, conventional way and how you
Speaker 17: draw it up, but uh, you know, Joe allows me
Speaker 17: to go out there and make plays, and he trusts
Speaker 17: me to be where I'm supposed to be when I'm
Speaker 17: spposed to be there, and uh you saw that today.
Speaker 3: Mike, I know. Uh, the goal was to win the
Speaker 3: last five games of the season, make a run and
Speaker 3: go nine and eight. Didn't happen today, you know. So
Speaker 3: now you're looking at at uh at what you're looking
Speaker 3: at four and eight. So there are five games, four
Speaker 3: games left, so you can go eight and nine. I'm
Speaker 3: not saying that that's a lock for the playoffs, but
Speaker 3: still a possibility, isn't it.
Speaker 17: Yeah, that's that's gonna be our best that's gonna be
Speaker 17: our only chance. So it starts with Baltimore next week
Speaker 17: and that's a big one, Divisional one and at home.
Speaker 17: So uh, you know, you go out there and get
Speaker 17: that win.
Speaker 3: I know that. Uh the locker room is disappointed, obviously,
Speaker 3: but there there's not any quitting any of these guys.
Speaker 3: I mean, you guys gave it everything you had out
Speaker 3: there today, every single snap. You anticipate that for the
Speaker 3: rest of the season, don't you.
Speaker 17: Yeah, you know it starts with Zach and you know
Speaker 17: the the way that he coaches us, and he does
Speaker 17: a phenomenal job, you know, just getting us all ready
Speaker 17: to play, and we have great guys on this in
Speaker 17: this team, in this locker room that are gonna, you know,
Speaker 17: get get out there and be ready to work starting tomorrow.
Speaker 3: I know the tight ends had a huge game today.
Speaker 3: I know the Cincinnati tight end room is something that
Speaker 3: you're proud of. You got a bunch of great teammates
Speaker 3: in that in that tight end room. You have a
Speaker 3: hell of a coach. To talk about your coach a
Speaker 3: little bit.
Speaker 17: James is an unbelievable tight end coach has played seven
Speaker 17: years in the league, has seen a lot, knows how
Speaker 17: to coach, knows how to get the best out of
Speaker 17: the guys, uses us all to our strengths and helps
Speaker 17: us in you.
Speaker 3: Know, every aspect of the game and in life.
Speaker 17: Can't say enough good things about James Casey, and you
Speaker 17: know the impact that he's had on me in my career.
Speaker 2: Mike is sicky on a heck of a day. Was
Speaker 2: easily his best day of the year. He had his
Speaker 2: high was four catches for thirty five yards in a
Speaker 2: game going into yesterday six catches eighty six yards, and
Speaker 2: it was a really good day for a guy who
Speaker 2: They've got tight ends who all do something, but Mike
Speaker 2: is the best of the group and he showed yesterday
Speaker 2: the impact he can have on this offense.
Speaker 3: Right, I agree with you, Lance, You know you got
Speaker 3: tight end that that can block that sample, and he blocks,
Speaker 3: probably a little more proficiently than he is his a
Speaker 3: weapon in the passing game, although he can get it done.
Speaker 3: I mean he can run routes and catch the football
Speaker 3: and do all the things the tight end needs to do. GASICKI,
Speaker 3: you know, is a guy that can do it all
Speaker 3: really and he blocks, well, he's not a devastating blocker.
Speaker 3: That's not his trademark, that's not his mo. But boy
Speaker 3: is he a great receiver of the football. A lot
Speaker 3: of his plays that he made yesterday from the slot,
Speaker 3: you know, he ended up almost a member of the
Speaker 3: wide receiver corps, like a big six foot five inch,
Speaker 3: you know, two hundred and twenty five pound wide receiver
Speaker 3: running really good routes. And Buffalo was paying a lot
Speaker 3: of attention to Higgins eventually, and paid a lot of
Speaker 3: attention from Jump Street With Jamar and once t I
Speaker 3: think showed them that not only is he back, but
Speaker 3: he's performing an high level, they started paying attention to
Speaker 3: him as well. And uh, you know, he did have
Speaker 3: five throws to him. Five targets that weren't weren't executed,
Speaker 3: weren't finished, so they they did probably you know, have
Speaker 3: more success in coverage on t Higgins and Gasiki stepped up,
Speaker 3: you know what, when when needed. This guy is uh
Speaker 3: is somebody that Joe Burrow can count on. Joe Burrow
Speaker 3: loves to throw the football to Mikeasicki. He trusts them,
Speaker 3: and that's that's a big thing with Joe Burrow. Trust
Speaker 3: means that you're always where you're supposed to be when
Speaker 3: you're supposed to be there, and no surprises. And that's
Speaker 3: that's Mikeasicki. He is reliable, dependable, and the hell of
Speaker 3: a talent.
Speaker 2: And you used to I think a keyword when needed,
Speaker 2: because when you have somebody like Tea and you have
Speaker 2: somebody like Jamar, they're going to command attention if you
Speaker 2: don't have somebody else to make a defense pay and
Speaker 2: that's Mike. And I think early in the season when
Speaker 2: they went through that stretch without Mike he had that
Speaker 2: I think it was the peck issue and he wasn't available.
Speaker 2: But without him, it's a different look and it allows
Speaker 2: teams to do things differently. In Mike when he's there.
Speaker 2: He can make defenses.
Speaker 3: Pay absolutely, and you know, and the tight end package
Speaker 3: that the Bengals can use, the third tight ends Tanner Hudson, yep,
Speaker 3: and that package that they can use. He's kind of like,
Speaker 3: you know, he's a good, good receiver. The football runs good.
Speaker 3: Rouse smart on the same page as Joe Borrow. Joe
Speaker 3: Burrow trusts him implicitly as well, and he blocks decently.
Speaker 3: I mean, they can use these guys as full backs,
Speaker 3: they can use them as wing backs, they can use
Speaker 3: them as slot receivers, tight ends at the end of
Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage. They can go two and three
Speaker 3: tight end packages. It gives a lot of versatility to
Speaker 3: the Bengals offense and gives Dan Pitcher and Zach Taylor,
Speaker 3: you know, tools to work with and weapons to employ
Speaker 3: and keep the defense on their toes.
Speaker 2: Boy and the Gasiki touchdown, I want to say that
Speaker 2: capped off a twelve play drive. Buffalo had pulled within three.
Speaker 2: Joe fires to strike down. He's sicky in the end zone.
Speaker 2: It's now a ten point lead with eight forty four
Speaker 2: to go, and you know, I'm writing down Gasiki play.
Speaker 2: They touchdown decides the game and from there. I mean
Speaker 2: that was twenty eight eighteen, and so much happened after
Speaker 2: that in the final eight minutes.
Speaker 3: It's incredible the number of points that went up on
Speaker 3: the board in the last eight minutes. It really is
Speaker 3: was a track meet. And that five yard touchdown past
Speaker 3: you right, Joe Borrow hum that bad boy.
Speaker 2: He put some RPM yes on that one. Did put
Speaker 2: a jugs gun on it.
Speaker 3: He did the Kaski you know, soutam boring plucks it.
Speaker 2: I mean, he is.
Speaker 3: Kasiki is a talent, there's no, uh, no question about it.
Speaker 3: And he he is somebody that Joe really looks to
Speaker 3: in the in the red zone, the low red zone.
Speaker 3: That's uh, you know, that's Kasiki's where he makes his
Speaker 3: bread and butter.
Speaker 2: Let's talk some defense when we come back. He's Dave
Speaker 2: Lapham my glance. But callister, we appreciate you hanging out
Speaker 2: with us tonight. Talk a little Bengals football and Bengals Line,
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Speaker 2: the dock at early thirty nine thirty four, the final
Speaker 2: numbers from Buffalo. Sorting through that, we'll look ahead of
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens as well. We've got fun facts with
Speaker 2: Dan Horde and Joe Flacco later out of our third
Speaker 2: hour as well. But let's jump into the defensive side
Speaker 2: of things. Yesterday, Oron Burks, the veteran linebacker recovered a
Speaker 2: fumble on a big play by DJ Turner. Here's oron
Speaker 2: Burks with Dan.
Speaker 18: Horde, Aaron Burks, you recovered a fumble in the end zone.
Speaker 18: At the moment, it looked like that might be the
Speaker 18: play that ultimately helped Cincinnati win the game. Unfortunately that's
Speaker 18: not the way it played out. But go back to
Speaker 18: that play and how youphorick it must have felt at
Speaker 18: the moment to get a stop inside the five.
Speaker 12: Yeah, obviously, you know, go on stand is a big deal.
Speaker 12: Taking points off the board for them, and just good
Speaker 12: things happen when you running the ball just all pop
Speaker 12: out and hopped on it right away, so give them
Speaker 12: us a chance. And then you know, office turn around
Speaker 12: and got a great drive right after that. So we
Speaker 12: just diden making enough plays to win the game. So
Speaker 12: that's what it comes down to.
Speaker 16: But back to work.
Speaker 4: Back to work this.
Speaker 18: Week, Josh Allen to Unicorn, the way that he can
Speaker 18: extend plays, the forty yard touchdown run that he had.
Speaker 18: I mean sometimes you have to just say a great
Speaker 18: player made plays.
Speaker 12: Yeah, he's a great player, you know, see it all
Speaker 12: over the tape and just being out there with him,
Speaker 12: he's able to improvise and you know, he's just a
Speaker 12: great mind. He's been lead for a while, so he's
Speaker 12: seeing every look, you know. But again, we just got
Speaker 12: to find a way to make more poison. They did
Speaker 12: and then and we weren't able to do that today.
Speaker 18: I think in the last two weeks, you guys have
Speaker 18: showed with Joe Burroyd quarterback, you can go toe to
Speaker 18: toe with anybody. Unfortunately, with the playoff math, it's you
Speaker 18: face long odds to get in. How frustrating is it
Speaker 18: to know that this team's pretty good. Unfortunately we might
Speaker 18: not have a chance to extend our season.
Speaker 12: Yeah, we're just going to control what we can and
Speaker 12: that's weekend a week out, just giving it our best
Speaker 12: and getting out there to put something that we can
Speaker 12: be proud of. So next week we're back on to
Speaker 12: the Ravens and that's that's what we're focused on now.
Speaker 18: Up by ten fourth quarter, were you thinking, you know,
Speaker 18: this one's going to be in the win column.
Speaker 12: I mean we think that the whole game. There's there's
Speaker 12: no quit in this team. And I feel like that
Speaker 12: was the mindset on the sideline. Everybody believe that, you know,
Speaker 12: even at the end, we can find a way to
Speaker 12: get that stopped and often scored to go down score,
Speaker 12: but I just didn't didn't pan out that way. And
Speaker 12: again just expect to work.
Speaker 18: What is kind of the mindset right now for the
Speaker 18: team for where things stand after this lost.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's frustrating. You know you can give draw every
Speaker 12: week and just come up short, you know, one too
Speaker 12: many times. And again I just keep saying, its back
Speaker 12: to work. It's it's only so much you can control.
Speaker 12: That's in the past now and controlling the what we
Speaker 12: can do moving forward.
Speaker 18: Appreciate your time.
Speaker 2: Oran burks with Dan Horde and that could have been
Speaker 2: one of those moments you circle that's the play of
Speaker 2: the game. They stop a touchdown at the lot it was.
Speaker 2: It was just what you want from your defense. It's
Speaker 2: a scoring opportunity for the Bills. DJ makes the instinctive
Speaker 2: play and strips it away and oron falls on it,
Speaker 2: and you're thinking, all right, this defense has stepped up
Speaker 2: and they and they've saved the football game.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean that's the only turnover the Buffalo Bills had.
Speaker 3: The Bengals had to the Bills had one of the
Speaker 3: Bills go plus one in this kind of a game,
Speaker 3: finishing plus in the turnover department. I think it is
Speaker 3: and was a big deal. But yeah, the defense, I mean,
Speaker 3: they made plays, you know, things would jump out like,
Speaker 3: oh my God, like you were saying, oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: this is it, this is gonna clinch the game. This
Speaker 3: is the play of the game. Then yeah, then I
Speaker 3: got a little surprise for you. Al Golden had to
Speaker 3: be tearing his hair out by the roots, you know,
Speaker 3: because it's on more than half the plays. I thought
Speaker 3: the defense played winning football, you know, and I thought
Speaker 3: they showed signs of improvement. I think they are starting
Speaker 3: to gradually, you know, improve Now. Are they there yet? No,
Speaker 3: they're not there yet. They have miles to go before
Speaker 3: they rest. But I think they're gonna they can be.
Speaker 3: They can be all They're never I don't think they're
Speaker 3: gonna be this group right now. Until they get some
Speaker 3: more snaps and years under their belt. Is not gonna
Speaker 3: be a top three, top five group, but they can
Speaker 3: be a top twelve, top fifty defense and you know,
Speaker 3: get in the top half of the league statistically. And
Speaker 3: if they if they do that with the way this is,
Speaker 3: Bengals offense can score points. I mean thirty nine to
Speaker 3: thirty five. You scored thirty five points in the NFL.
Speaker 3: You stamp it, man, it's a dub, you know, but
Speaker 3: not so fast.
Speaker 2: In fact, along those lines are our friend Paul Dayner
Speaker 2: Junior of the Athletic had this stat going back to
Speaker 2: last season, and boy, oh boy, since the first week
Speaker 2: of last season, teams around the NFL that score at
Speaker 2: least thirty three points have gone one thirty six, ten
Speaker 2: and two. The Bengals in that span, when scoring at
Speaker 2: least thirty three points have gone four and seven.
Speaker 3: So they're responsible for seven of the ten losses to
Speaker 3: the league.
Speaker 2: I think the league separated. I think that's everybody else.
Speaker 2: But either way, I mean, think about that one thirty
Speaker 2: six and that's a winning percentage of a like ninety
Speaker 2: five and the Bengals are four and seven.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, and Bengals have a losing record. The Bengals
Speaker 3: are sub five hundred.
Speaker 2: I mean, and here's speaking of friends. Joel Goodberry or
Speaker 2: our friend Joe Goodberry had a stat on and it's
Speaker 2: impossible to talk linebackers without talking to tight end. How
Speaker 2: about this day. This season, the Bengals defense versus tight
Speaker 2: ends has allowed ninety seven catches for twelve hundred yards
Speaker 2: and fifteen touchdowns to opposing tight ends. Think about that,
Speaker 2: guys just rolled back at his hand. Crazy thirteen games
Speaker 2: in ninety seven catches for twelve hundred yards and fifteen touchdowns.
Speaker 2: They are averaging. Teams are averaging at the tight end
Speaker 2: position against the Bengals ten and a half targets per game,
Speaker 2: seven and a half catches per game, and ninety seven
Speaker 2: yards per game.
Speaker 3: That's amazing. I mean, they're converting over at seventy percent
Speaker 3: of the time in almost one hundred yards to the
Speaker 3: tight ends every single game. And we were talking about
Speaker 3: it at the end of night during the game. It's like, man,
Speaker 3: I mean, the Bengals have struggled to stop the tight
Speaker 3: end forever. It seems like tight ends have hurt the
Speaker 3: Bengals franchise ever since the franchise has been has been formed.
Speaker 3: I mean it is. It's unbelievable and it doesn't have
Speaker 3: to be. You know, a Pro Bowl tight end either.
Speaker 3: You know, if you're capable and you play the tight
Speaker 3: end position, man, you're looking your chops hoping you get
Speaker 3: the Bengals on your schedule. Yeah.
Speaker 2: For the pace of a seventeen game season, that's a
Speaker 2: pace out of the tight ends against the Bengals of
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty eight catch season for sixteen hundred
Speaker 2: yards and twenty touchdowns. And man, I got to think
Speaker 2: if you're an opposing offensive coordinator, you're sitting down to
Speaker 2: look at the tape each week and go on, we
Speaker 2: are targeting their linebackers.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, And you know that Lamar Jackson is doing that.
Speaker 3: He plays against the Bengals twice a year every year.
Speaker 3: He knows what the Bengals are struggling with at the
Speaker 3: tight end position, and he's got a Pro bowler at
Speaker 3: that spot. So I mean he's going to utilize that. Dude.
Speaker 3: And the pair of tight ends that hit the field
Speaker 3: for the Buffalo Bills yesterday, Dalton Kincaid and Dawson Knox,
Speaker 3: the two DK man, they did a job. They did
Speaker 3: a job on the Bengals. They really did, and and
Speaker 3: uh man over and over again when they needed a
Speaker 3: big play. Yep, when when when things were on the line,
Speaker 3: the tight end position got first look. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was talking to a big fantasy football friend of mine.
Speaker 2: He says, one of the easiest calls in fantasy football
Speaker 2: each week is to start the tight end. Who goes
Speaker 2: against the Bengals? Right, we just and if you don't
Speaker 2: have them, pick them up on the waiver wire. Well,
Speaker 2: head down the stretch on our first hour. Here from
Speaker 2: DJ Turner who made the strip and more. It's Bengals
Speaker 2: on in the Bengals Radio network and seven hundred w
Speaker 2: l W. They hit down the stretch in our first
Speaker 2: hour to out of Bengals on of the Bengals Radio
Speaker 2: network and seven hundred wl you.
Speaker 3: At Lance's time for the cattering health injury report, and
Speaker 3: there really wasn't anything significant. T Higgins got dinged up again,
Speaker 3: hit his head on the turf. I went into the
Speaker 3: into the the blue tent to get to get looked at,
Speaker 3: and he was right back out in the football field.
Speaker 3: Gotta have that blue tent quickly. And you know some
Speaker 3: some minor you know bumps and bruises. I'm trying to
Speaker 3: think of the raven that was rolling his shoulder, you know,
Speaker 3: trying to get that arm loose and keep his shoulder loose.
Speaker 3: But he it was a linebacker. I'm thinking he only
Speaker 3: made me missed a snap or two. So overall, for
Speaker 3: as physical as that game was, as hard as they played,
Speaker 3: they did avoid injury. And that's that's always good news.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and for a moment, I thought we'll talk about
Speaker 2: tea later. Out of the hour, he came out of
Speaker 2: the out of the tent. Okay, Joseph o' side left
Speaker 2: briefly with the shin.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he got right, So that was a good thing.
Speaker 2: So yeah, all all things considered, not bad on a
Speaker 2: day like that. Let's pick it up with DJ Turner,
Speaker 2: who turned in a big play in the game, got
Speaker 2: the strip of the goal line yesterday. Here from our
Speaker 2: friend Joe D Joe Danim at Fox nineteen, part of
Speaker 2: its conversation with DJ Turner.
Speaker 11: Okay, hard one to swallow. How much respect do you
Speaker 11: have for a guy like Josh Allen. Look, you guys
Speaker 11: have one of the best quarterbacks in the league. So
Speaker 11: today when you have a game against Josh Allen, how
Speaker 11: difficult of a matchup is it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely a difficult one.
Speaker 19: Two top quarterbacks going at it, you know, but we
Speaker 19: got to find a way to get that up.
Speaker 11: Okay, the big play at the goal line when the
Speaker 11: fumble was forced, Can you take us through that play
Speaker 11: and how the play was made?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean it was just on a like what
Speaker 19: two or three yard line? Best options getting the ball out?
Speaker 19: It's snowing cold, so you know, it's really what I
Speaker 19: was going for.
Speaker 11: Is that something that is taught for you guys in
Speaker 11: that situation to go for the ball?
Speaker 19: Yeah, for sure, we always try to go for the ball.
Speaker 11: It felt like momentum was on your side in the
Speaker 11: second half. We've seen this team put away these games
Speaker 11: so many different times. When a team makes a play
Speaker 11: like Buffalo did with the pick six, how hard does
Speaker 11: it take that kind of a punch and finish a game.
Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean it's hard, but we just have found
Speaker 19: a way. That's really the biggest thing. Like two good
Speaker 19: teams going you know, stuff gonna happen. We've got to
Speaker 19: find a way, and just find a way.
Speaker 4: He does, just get a dupe.
Speaker 11: A lot of people in this room said this felt
Speaker 11: like a playoff atmosphere today. Did it feel like that
Speaker 11: to you?
Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean I would think so. I haven't played
Speaker 19: in playoff yet, but I would think so.
Speaker 11: Okay, when this team looks at the rest of the
Speaker 11: schedule now and you have four games left and the
Speaker 11: four and nine, there was so much excitement DJ that
Speaker 11: after you beat Baltimore and see if you guys could
Speaker 11: run the table, what do you play for now?
Speaker 3: Wait? Is that want to know? Every week?
Speaker 4: That's the only option.
Speaker 19: We was playing for the same thing we was this week,
Speaker 19: you know. I mean, it's your film, our team. You know,
Speaker 19: I do want to know every week, they don't matter
Speaker 19: circumstance of anything.
Speaker 4: That's what we need to do every.
Speaker 2: Week, DJ Turner. After the game, coming up hour two,
Speaker 2: you'll hear from T Higgins, Jamar Chase, Geno Stone, and
Speaker 2: a whole lot more to sort through from yesterday and
Speaker 2: a thirty nine thirty four loss to those Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 2: It's Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network and seven
Speaker 2: hundred WLW. Hey, welcome back again on Bengals on this
Speaker 2: Monday night, about to unpack our number two of our
Speaker 2: journey through Bengals conversation. Bengals fall to the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 2: yesterday thirty nine thirty four, the final score. We've got
Speaker 2: plenty to work through in this hour. Let's get into
Speaker 2: the performance by t Higgins. We talked about the toughness
Speaker 2: he showed yesterday, the return from the concussion. He's targeted
Speaker 2: eleven times. He has six catches ninety two yards, an
Speaker 2: average of fifteen point three a catch a long of
Speaker 2: twenty five at touchdown two touchdowns on the day. Here
Speaker 2: is Tea after the game on the performance and the loss.
Speaker 3: That catch you made that touchdown catch, It didn't even
Speaker 3: not brace the Frida.
Speaker 20: Uh, I mean, man, just try to make a play
Speaker 20: on the ball.
Speaker 4: And was able to.
Speaker 3: See how frustrating is given the fact that he guys
Speaker 3: played pretty much the game you wanted to play for.
Speaker 3: I had to say, yeah, Ages, it's a flipfles sweatch. Yeah.
Speaker 21: Man, it's very frustrating obviously like he wants to lose,
Speaker 21: especially when he was up mostly the whole game.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 20: Those last two turnovers.
Speaker 4: You know it cost us.
Speaker 20: You can't hand those, but you gotta get it fixed.
Speaker 20: It can be better next week.
Speaker 18: The way you guys started touchdown drives on your first
Speaker 18: three possessions, did it feel like that playoff game all
Speaker 18: over again, the way that you came out and really
Speaker 18: dominated early.
Speaker 20: Yeah, man, it felt good.
Speaker 21: You know, we just gotta keep putting the pressure on
Speaker 21: you know, you know obviously, like I just said to him, Uh,
Speaker 21: those two turnovers at the end cost us. Uh, we
Speaker 21: can't hand those and just keep putting pressure on 'em
Speaker 21: and you know, try to find a win.
Speaker 18: Wasn't that case really where those turnovers were Bengals mistakes?
Speaker 18: I mean, Christian Benford, that was a great play, right.
Speaker 21: Uh, God made a hell of a play. Uh No,
Speaker 21: So you know, I get gotta get pros where where
Speaker 21: when it's due. Uh he made a hell of a
Speaker 21: play and made a good ball. They good play on
Speaker 21: the ball, so you know, and then you know the
Speaker 21: second one, you know, got tipped. You know, tips and overthrows.
Speaker 21: You know, it's it's tough, so it's gotta be better.
Speaker 11: How tough as a tea when you see what the
Speaker 11: offense looks like when you have everybody and you guys
Speaker 11: who out to score thirty plus points, that it might
Speaker 11: be too late in the season to get to where
Speaker 11: you wanna go.
Speaker 21: Uh it's tough, you know. You know, we definitely wanted
Speaker 21: this win today. Uh, but it didn't happen.
Speaker 11: So for you, we we know you came back from
Speaker 11: the concussion or to missing last week. You took some
Speaker 11: hard falls, landing on the ground awkwardly. How difficult was
Speaker 11: it for you to make it all the way through
Speaker 11: this game?
Speaker 20: You know, I'm a I'm a soldier, you know what
Speaker 20: I mean. So soldiers take hits.
Speaker 21: You know, it happens. It's football, It's the name of
Speaker 21: the game. Uh, you gotta get up next play. Mentally,
Speaker 21: did you try.
Speaker 22: To invent somebody to stay in the game?
Speaker 2: Off?
Speaker 22: It looked like they kind of valua val what evaluated
Speaker 22: you a couple of times? I mean, what was kind
Speaker 22: of the conversations you have with the traders.
Speaker 21: Regular Uh, you know, going through the concussion testing things.
Speaker 21: But you know, past those so I was able to
Speaker 21: go back and keep playing.
Speaker 7: Was there aught?
Speaker 22: You know, given the history of you saying, hey, you know,
Speaker 22: maybe wanna not playing this given what happened. I mean,
Speaker 22: how much did you think about maybe sitting out the rest.
Speaker 18: Of the game.
Speaker 20: I didn't think about that at all.
Speaker 21: Why cause I'm a I'm a I'm a team for
Speaker 21: you know what I mean. Uh, my team needed me,
Speaker 21: you know, I feel like they did. So I went
Speaker 21: out there and played, try to dog this out with
Speaker 21: my team.
Speaker 11: Was it getting frustrated that you seem to keep landing
Speaker 11: so hard? I mean, you know, football players, I get it,
Speaker 11: but sometimes you can brace your fall. It felt like
Speaker 11: you had a lot of falls today that you really
Speaker 11: could even brace yourself.
Speaker 3: It's well, man, it's ball.
Speaker 18: I heard Jamar say to you before the game. Hey,
Speaker 18: the weather's not bad? What was it like out there
Speaker 18: for you guys?
Speaker 20: Snow cold?
Speaker 18: To me, I don't like the snow, which Javari trying
Speaker 18: to convince you. Do you think that it's not so bad?
Speaker 2: Nah?
Speaker 21: Uh, I just think the thing was saying that cause
Speaker 21: it was a little colder in Baltimore. So uh that's
Speaker 21: probably while.
Speaker 11: What one had a touchdown catches that just team needs
Speaker 11: to play gotta make it.
Speaker 21: I mean, yeah, you know we knew when I when
Speaker 21: it when it was when it was called I knew
Speaker 21: somebody was gonna have to make a play, So whether
Speaker 21: it came to me or somebody else, play would have
Speaker 21: to be made.
Speaker 7: So what's your talking part about losing this one?
Speaker 20: We needed to win, you know what I mean to
Speaker 20: you know, have better chances of you know, making it. Uh,
Speaker 20: we just need to win.
Speaker 22: So I know how welly y'all played last week, how
Speaker 22: wey y'all played for most of this game, and now
Speaker 22: giving where you're out with the record, how much harder
Speaker 22: does that make call what happened today?
Speaker 20: I mean it makes it hard.
Speaker 21: I mean we got to come back, you know, watch
Speaker 21: your film, correct what we did wrong, and just try
Speaker 21: to be better next week.
Speaker 6: Is starting to feel like the season is slipping away.
Speaker 3: Oh that's exact question.
Speaker 2: T after the game and David thought it was big
Speaker 2: coming off the concussion. They got him involved immediately. He
Speaker 2: had three catches on the opening drive and kind of
Speaker 2: announced that tea was ready and let's go, and it
Speaker 2: was the start of a big day for him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really was. The Uh. The Bills had a
Speaker 3: tough time matching up with t and he is He's
Speaker 3: a tough match up. The very few defensive backs have
Speaker 3: big corners the size that can you know, handle and
Speaker 3: battle T Higgins on a snap by snap basis. So
Speaker 3: he is an automatic mismatch. I mean, he is a unique,
Speaker 3: unique guy. He's one of the biggest receivers in the
Speaker 3: National Football League really overall, and he very athletic for
Speaker 3: his size, as we talked about, and he's a weapon.
Speaker 3: He's a guy that loves the game of football too.
Speaker 3: I mean he works. He takes nothing for granted. He
Speaker 3: always wants to get better. He is works hard. He's
Speaker 3: one of the first guys on the field every day,
Speaker 3: one of the last guys to leave. He puts an
Speaker 3: extra time with Joe Burrow. Football is important to this kid.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 2: It was a scary moment when he made the leaping
Speaker 2: attempt and fell and you could see his head smacked
Speaker 2: the guy on the turf like the concussion and bounced
Speaker 2: early and he sat up and on the TV replay
Speaker 2: you saw him point his finger to his helmet indicating
Speaker 2: my head and went to the blue ten. And you're thinking, man,
Speaker 2: that you get one concussion and you worry about things
Speaker 2: piling up from there. But he was able to return.
Speaker 2: It made that beauty of a one handed catch and
Speaker 2: just a really strong perform. It's a on a brutally
Speaker 2: cold day with a hard field, and he got through
Speaker 2: all of it yesterday.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean concussions when you when you bang your
Speaker 3: head on the turf, your your eyes they don't they
Speaker 3: don't roll up in the back of your head literally,
Speaker 3: but you lose focus. I mean, you're you're just you're, you're,
Speaker 3: you're out of whack. I mean, you can't sleep, clearly,
Speaker 3: it's you never pass an eye vision test, and it's
Speaker 3: it's like those little swimmers that you know, you go
Speaker 3: through your eyes. You have a little bit of that.
Speaker 3: So you're trying to shake it off and see how
Speaker 3: bad it is. If you have a serious concussion, you're
Speaker 3: going to be, you know, trying to trying to get
Speaker 3: your eyes straight for a while. Fortunately for the Bengals
Speaker 3: and for t Higgins, he was able to shake that
Speaker 3: one off.
Speaker 2: We're gonna hear from Jamar in our next segment. But
Speaker 2: let's uh, while we're talking about the offense. Uh. The
Speaker 2: one thing that I think was surprising was especially considering
Speaker 2: Buffalo's struggles to defend the run. I think going into
Speaker 2: the game they were thirtieth I think they were giving
Speaker 2: up five or five point two yards per caring Bengals
Speaker 2: just never really got the run game untracked. Yesterday Somaj
Speaker 2: p Ryan had some really hard, tough runs. But Chase Brown,
Speaker 2: for his streak of six straight games over one hundred
Speaker 2: yards total yards from scrimmage, he just didn't get it
Speaker 2: going really at all yesterday.
Speaker 3: No, he really didn't, and numbers back it up. I mean,
Speaker 3: the average less than two yards of carry. Twelve carries
Speaker 3: twenty three yards one point nine A long carry of
Speaker 3: five was a touchdown, so he did put a touchdown
Speaker 3: up on the board. But you're right, p Ryan, five
Speaker 3: point two yards per but he only carried it six times,
Speaker 3: six times for thirty one yards. So maybe in hindsight think, okay,
Speaker 3: maybe maybe we should have worked that big horse a
Speaker 3: little bit more and let him beat on the Buffalo
Speaker 3: Bills and wear them down a little bit, and maybe
Speaker 3: that has slowed their pass rush down. If they have
Speaker 3: to concern themselves so much with you know, a big
Speaker 3: guy between the tackles, a big horse like p Rand
Speaker 3: that they can do some damage.
Speaker 2: Boy, and he on the on the opening drive, p
Speaker 2: Ride had that third and six catch and the fight,
Speaker 2: the extra effort to keep that drive alive, which was big.
Speaker 2: He at a third and one conversion, he had a
Speaker 2: nine yard run. And the one thing that appear different
Speaker 2: about Chase Chase Brown, and I don't know if it
Speaker 2: was weather in traction, he just didn't seem to run
Speaker 2: with as much I don't know purpose. There was a
Speaker 2: little more tentative of of like the tap tail, like
Speaker 2: which way am I going? Where am I going? He's
Speaker 2: been decisive in that run where he's been really good
Speaker 2: the previous six weeks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know what you mean. It looked like he
Speaker 3: running on eggshells a little bit, you know, And and uh,
Speaker 3: you know, not not quite sure exactly of his footing.
Speaker 2: And Samaj is not that way. He'll just batter you.
Speaker 2: You know, you may hit him, but he's gonna hit you.
Speaker 3: He's going to hit you. And the thing I like
Speaker 3: about Samaj watching him always has a forward body lean,
Speaker 3: never runs upright, always has a body lean. He's going
Speaker 3: to smack you, and and uh, and he's going to
Speaker 3: give you little hitting surface because when you're on a
Speaker 3: forty five degree incline light to rape boy, it's like
Speaker 3: it's hard to get you know, a big hit on him.
Speaker 3: So for his big a bu he is, his running
Speaker 3: style is uh is pretty dynamic. I mean it's a
Speaker 3: one two punch. He's got a tough running style to
Speaker 3: tackle and he's a big old horse behind it.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They always say low man wins we get you know
Speaker 2: how you're like leaning like I can't get under you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if and if you do try to lower everything,
Speaker 3: he'll run you over.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: So it's like, damn, I'm the damnified doing damnified don't
Speaker 3: here with this guy.
Speaker 2: He's got like a built in He's the type of
Speaker 2: running back there's always like a built in extra yard
Speaker 2: because he's always falling forward. So when you get him,
Speaker 2: he's he's, you know, tackle on one more yard gain.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it is. I mean when he when he
Speaker 3: gets tackled for no gain, you don't really see him
Speaker 3: get tackled for lost. Well, when you see him get
Speaker 3: tackled for no gain, it's like, man, as an offensive line,
Speaker 3: you go back to him and say, man, we sucked
Speaker 3: on that play because I exactly if if p Ryan
Speaker 3: can't get in the yards off and and nobody is yeah.
Speaker 2: No doubt, no doubt. All right, still ahead. We heard
Speaker 2: from t in this segment. Let's hear from Jamar on
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Speaker 2: sorting through yesterday. Let's talk Jamar Chase targeted eight times,
Speaker 2: five catches forty four yards along of sixteen. Here's Jamar
Speaker 2: after the game.
Speaker 11: Pick six was one of the bigger plays of the game.
Speaker 11: Is that just a risk on that play that if
Speaker 11: a guy makes a great play like that, there's just
Speaker 11: you tip your cap and you say great play and
Speaker 11: move on.
Speaker 9: Yeah, pretty much great play called by him first time
Speaker 9: doing a safety blitz on from my side the whole
Speaker 9: game pretty much just show cloud the whole game.
Speaker 4: Whinside love it.
Speaker 11: So how difficult is it because then they come back
Speaker 11: with another interception to take that kind of a body
Speaker 11: blow and still try to finish.
Speaker 3: A game of the win.
Speaker 4: Just not a good play about dlining their hands out'
Speaker 4: make an ampag on the play.
Speaker 18: I feel like in the last two weeks, you guys
Speaker 18: showed what this team can be.
Speaker 4: Nah, I feel like we did it a whole Yeah,
Speaker 4: not just last two weeks.
Speaker 11: But when you have the whole offense healthy the way
Speaker 11: you've had now and you've see the the amount of
Speaker 11: points you're putting up, is it harder to swallow Jamar
Speaker 11: knowing that if you had Joe and the whole offense
Speaker 11: the whole year, maybe you wouldn't be in this position.
Speaker 4: Uh. Hard to say at the end of the day.
Speaker 9: Uh, we can't really look at him and put all
Speaker 9: the pressure on him for making plays and trying to
Speaker 9: be perfect play the game.
Speaker 4: But uh, we gotta look at ourselves.
Speaker 9: We gotta look at the uh the other quarterbacks, the defense,
Speaker 9: the backups, everybody else that has to play.
Speaker 4: They rolling and step into the game when they when
Speaker 4: they number called.
Speaker 18: How much you matt a Uh admiration do you have
Speaker 18: for Tea coming back from his concussion and playing the
Speaker 18: way he did and well the hard hits that uh
Speaker 18: he felt today?
Speaker 9: Uh, nothing less. I expect nothing less from him, you
Speaker 9: know what I'm saying. He's one of the best in
Speaker 9: the nation, and I expected a lot.
Speaker 11: Of guys in here said that today felt like a
Speaker 11: playoff game. You've played in playoff games, you played these
Speaker 11: guys in playoff games.
Speaker 8: Did it feel like that kind of atmosphere?
Speaker 1: Nah?
Speaker 4: Nah, I just not really.
Speaker 10: Did go show you anything different from than what you
Speaker 10: saw film this week? Did they show you anything different?
Speaker 3: No, but you saw the film during that week.
Speaker 8: No.
Speaker 9: The exactly what they did all week on film played
Speaker 9: six strong, six quarters two, So they did.
Speaker 18: They did the usual people will take you out though, right,
Speaker 18: I mean that was there game.
Speaker 4: I mean I guess it was just cloud nothing. I
Speaker 4: don't normally see.
Speaker 11: Four nine Jamar. What now do you guys look forward
Speaker 11: to and play for?
Speaker 4: Just keep playing man, finishtone. That's the best we could do.
Speaker 10: I'm sorry I was late, but we'll pubs review of the.
Speaker 4: Of the pick six good play by then. I guess
Speaker 4: he was Woodson right, Caplitz.
Speaker 2: Jamar after the game and Dave they we talked a
Speaker 2: little bit earlier, alluded to the fact that they put
Speaker 2: up a lot of tension towards Uh Jamar. I think
Speaker 2: he had one catch going into the fourth quarter, then
Speaker 2: got hot for a little bit of a stretch and
Speaker 2: looking at the numbers. Christian Benford who had the big
Speaker 2: pick six saw from Next Gen. Christian Benford had sixteen
Speaker 2: matchups against Jamar Chase yesterday. Jamar was thrown at just
Speaker 2: twice in those sixteen matchups, no receptions and the pick six.
Speaker 2: So Benford had a big day against a big time receiver.
Speaker 2: He really did.
Speaker 3: And that's what teams are starting to do, not just
Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills, but everybody, particularly division opponents. They're putting
Speaker 3: a shadow on Chase, a guy like Benford who is
Speaker 3: their best cover corner, and then they'll compliment and supplement
Speaker 3: it with okay, a safety rolling over the top or
Speaker 3: a nickel corner who's you know, backing off from the
Speaker 3: nickel corner position and taking the deep part of the
Speaker 3: football field as well. So they're doing some combination coverages
Speaker 3: to combat Jamar Chase's greatness. But man, he you know,
Speaker 3: you figure if he's one on one the snaps that
Speaker 3: he is one on one, somebody else has to win. Yes,
Speaker 3: But what they're doing is they're saying, Okay, well we're
Speaker 3: not We're not taking another guy and putting him on Jamar.
Speaker 3: So we can put him on Higgins, we can put
Speaker 3: him on against sticky. We can do it with the
Speaker 3: Yoci vosh if we so desire. Uh, he's got to
Speaker 3: prove himself a little bit more, I think before he
Speaker 3: falls into that category. But you know, the defensive coordinators
Speaker 3: there are no dummies, man. They're always saying I thinking
Speaker 3: a step ahead. There's no question about that. But bottom
Speaker 3: line is Benford played the game of his life.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: He played his ass off.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You a quick thought on Yoshi. And it's as
Speaker 2: he continues to develop, it would seem the the gap
Speaker 2: that he has to close is he'll make a nice play,
Speaker 2: but he'll have a drop. Yeah, he'll making a just
Speaker 2: closing that gap of inconsistency to make it more consent.
Speaker 2: That seems like the only thing he's lacking right now,
Speaker 2: because he'll do some things he say wow, look at
Speaker 2: that and look at the body, the way he angled
Speaker 2: his body and the strength he showed.
Speaker 3: Then he'll have a drop and you say, how do
Speaker 3: you do that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's he is. He's a rare I mean, he
Speaker 3: can do a lot of things. He might be as
Speaker 3: gifted an athlete. He's probably the guy on the football
Speaker 3: team that could do the pentathlon and heptathlon and all
Speaker 3: that sort of thing. I mean, the guy can do anything.
Speaker 3: You can high jump, he can pull vault, he can
Speaker 3: run sprints, you can run distance. I mean he is
Speaker 3: and honestly and truly he is gifted in that regard.
Speaker 3: But you're right, consistency making the catch and making the
Speaker 3: catch at clutch times, you know, being more clutch. Joe
Speaker 3: Burrow is human, and Joe Burrow, if you drop one,
Speaker 3: Joe is going to be like, you know, I was
Speaker 3: kind of counting on that one. I don't think I
Speaker 3: could throw the ball any better. Man. I hit you
Speaker 3: right in the numbers, right and right in the chest,
Speaker 3: and he didn't finish it for me, So I might
Speaker 3: be going in another direction the next time.
Speaker 2: Final thought on Chase. He becomes the fourth player all
Speaker 2: time with at least one thousand receiving yards and five
Speaker 2: touchdowns in each of his first five seasons. The company
Speaker 2: he's in, aj Green, Justin Jefferson, and Randy Moss bad
Speaker 2: company for guys with at least a thousand yards and
Speaker 2: five touchdowns in each of their first five seasons.
Speaker 3: Man, that's a that's a heck of a roll call
Speaker 3: right there, and it is Hall of Famers future Hall
Speaker 3: of Famers, each and every one. There's no doubt about that. So, boy,
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase season some high cotton there, man, that's a
Speaker 3: that's a hell of a start to a season.
Speaker 2: He's sitting on four now, four hundred and eighty six
Speaker 2: catches in his fifth season, not even done. Still four
Speaker 2: games left, four hundred and eighty six catches for jam.
Speaker 3: Chase, four games left. If he catches fourteen balls and
Speaker 3: four games, which you think is honest a foregone conclusion,
Speaker 3: that'll be five hundred catches, one hundred a year. What
Speaker 3: one hundred catches a year? Just plug them in, man, unbelievable, amazing.
Speaker 2: Stuck some more defense on the other side as we
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Speaker 2: Let's flip it back on the other side of the script.
Speaker 2: Let's talk defense and Geno Stone Bengals safety on their
Speaker 2: performance yesterday. Here's Gino after the game.
Speaker 11: How difficult is it when momentum shifts the way it
Speaker 11: did in the fourth quarter, a couple of picks all
Speaker 11: of a sudden, you guys were in control and then
Speaker 11: you're not in control. How hard is that as a
Speaker 11: football player with momentum on the road shifts like that.
Speaker 23: Yeah, No, definitely difficult, But us things you try to
Speaker 23: overcome if you want to really good team. So you know,
Speaker 23: I think we still handle that situation. Well, I think
Speaker 23: we would have held him three points instead of let
Speaker 23: him score.
Speaker 2: Things like that.
Speaker 8: We've been a different situation. But yeah, it's definitely difficult though.
Speaker 11: You play with one of the best quarterbacks in the league,
Speaker 11: but Buffalo has one as well. How difficult of a
Speaker 11: matchup is Josh Allen for a defensive player.
Speaker 23: No, he's definitely difficult. I mean he I think he
Speaker 23: works best at you extending the players and things like that.
Speaker 23: He's a really smart guy and really athletics. So once
Speaker 23: he gets out the pocket he can make things happen
Speaker 23: in the show today. So you know, that's there's things
Speaker 23: we have to limit. We still do as good a
Speaker 23: job of Dan.
Speaker 11: I think at the beginning we did, but not that
Speaker 11: that final third down. You know, the threat is he
Speaker 11: could run it, he could throw it. How difficult is
Speaker 11: that when he has both of those options.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it means definitely difficult. But I play.
Speaker 8: You know, you just got to execute. I think we
Speaker 8: had a good plan for it, and uh.
Speaker 3: It was a good call.
Speaker 8: And he's got to execute everyone.
Speaker 3: Everyone got to do those jobs.
Speaker 11: There was a lot of excitement in this room. You
Speaker 11: guys winning Baltimore. There's the thought that you guys can
Speaker 11: run the table and maybe make the playoffs. But now
Speaker 11: with four and nine, what's the feeling inside this room?
Speaker 11: But what you guys can still accomplish.
Speaker 4: This's gout.
Speaker 8: He's gotta finish.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's all it is.
Speaker 23: I mean, we's got you know, don't don't think about
Speaker 23: anything ahead of the next week or whoever it is.
Speaker 23: Just got worry about each day, just getting better as
Speaker 23: a pro each day. So that's the only thing we
Speaker 23: can go look forward to right now, and like everything
Speaker 23: else saying to you know, playoff from there.
Speaker 2: Geno Stone after the game, and uh man, Josh Allen
Speaker 2: is such a such a problem from so many different aspects.
Speaker 2: I mean, you watch him and you see what he
Speaker 2: did to roll out and buy time, to extend to
Speaker 2: play and throw a fourth down the touchdown. You watch
Speaker 2: him take off on the on the the back breaking
Speaker 2: forty yard run, and you look at him and he's
Speaker 2: what he's listened at six five, two thirty seven. And
Speaker 2: I keep thinking of trying to think of a cop
Speaker 2: of a quarterback who can run like he does. They're
Speaker 2: saying he's not like blazing fast, but he gets gone
Speaker 2: and he's big enough and strong enough to shed tackles.
Speaker 2: But I just watch him and I say, I don't
Speaker 2: even know who to compare him to. He's just so
Speaker 2: dang impressive.
Speaker 3: He is, he really is. I mean, he is a
Speaker 3: He's a specimen and he can do anything you want
Speaker 3: at the quarterback position. He can throw deep, he can
Speaker 3: throw intermediate short, he's got accuracy. He struggled a little
Speaker 3: bit with his accuracy yesterday and he's had a little
Speaker 3: bit of an off year in that regard. But he
Speaker 3: can when he's on man, he's pinpoint. He can roll
Speaker 3: to the right, like you said, and you know, tucket
Speaker 3: and run or hurt you. The thing with him that
Speaker 3: defensive players hate is when you're in no man's land,
Speaker 3: you know, and it's like he's approaching the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 3: and do I drop coverage and come up and smack
Speaker 3: this guy because I don't want him to get ahead
Speaker 3: of steam, or do I stay in coverage and you know,
Speaker 3: pay the price when I try to come up there
Speaker 3: and hit this dude. So he is, he's a weapon man.
Speaker 3: He's a two way guy, and he can roll to
Speaker 3: his right, rolls to his left equally effectively. And a
Speaker 3: lot of times quarterbacks that are right handed rolling the left,
Speaker 3: they can't get back across their body properly with the
Speaker 3: good mechanics in the arm swing to complete passes down
Speaker 3: the football field. But he does man. He throws the
Speaker 3: ball very very well, rolling to his left. So there's
Speaker 3: not much that Josh Allen, if anything, that this guy
Speaker 3: can't do.
Speaker 2: He's completing seventy percent of his passes. He's rushed for
Speaker 2: four hundred and eighty seven yards. In that rushing total,
Speaker 2: he's rushed for thirty seven first downs. Yeah, he's rushed
Speaker 2: for twelve touchdowns. And you add all that up, and
Speaker 2: you would think that would leave him susceptible to getting
Speaker 2: beaten up and banged up and bruised and maybe missing
Speaker 2: some games.
Speaker 3: Dave.
Speaker 2: The only time he's missed games he missed four games
Speaker 2: his rookie season, had a UCL strain in his elbow.
Speaker 2: But he's now in his eighth season. He hasn't missed
Speaker 2: a game since his rookie season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean those numbers.
Speaker 2: I mean that is thirty seven first downs rushing for
Speaker 2: your quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: And twelve touchdowns. I mean that's uh. Well, he's won
Speaker 3: an MVP. He's tracking for another one, A legitimate candidate,
Speaker 3: there's no question. Usually the MVP does go to somebody
Speaker 3: that either wins the suit Ball or gets to the
Speaker 3: Super Bowl or at least the AFC Championship.
Speaker 8: Game.
Speaker 3: So you know, time will tell. With respect to Josh Allen,
Speaker 3: there are other candidates you know that are a vying
Speaker 3: for that opportunity. But man, you know, a two time MVP,
Speaker 3: now you're talking to some high cotton. There's you know,
Speaker 3: if you win an MVP, it's a hell of an accomplishment.
Speaker 3: I mean, you think of all the guys that play
Speaker 3: football in the world, and you're the guy that was
Speaker 3: the best at that sport in the world and to
Speaker 3: do it two times, man, that's that's a hell of
Speaker 3: an accomplishment.
Speaker 2: Boy, late, when the Bengals got the sack and pushed
Speaker 2: him to third and fifteen, and I'm thinking, oh, right,
Speaker 2: they're going to get a stop here, and I'll be damn,
Speaker 2: they're gonna get Joe the ball back and Joe's going
Speaker 2: to win this game. And then Josh Allen goes forty
Speaker 2: yards of one of those plays that just it slows
Speaker 2: down into slow motion as you say no, no, and
Speaker 2: just watch him run and I don't know, I have
Speaker 2: to look at the all twenty two.
Speaker 3: What did you see?
Speaker 2: What broke down? Everybody wants to know if there was
Speaker 2: a spy? Why not a spy? If there wasn't. What
Speaker 2: did you see on a play that breaks down to
Speaker 2: the point that Josh Allen goes forty yards to just
Speaker 2: break their back?
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think there was a spy on the play.
Speaker 3: If there was, the guy should be cut and they
Speaker 3: shouldn't have let him get on the bus and go
Speaker 3: to the airport or let him fly home, because man,
Speaker 3: when he took off, there was nobody within five yards
Speaker 3: of him anywhere. I mean, it was unbelievable. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: they a broken coverage is all I can think of.
Speaker 3: Somebody just went and attack a route that they shouldn't
Speaker 3: had no business going and getting nosy about man, Yeah,
Speaker 3: third and fifteen, forty yard touchdown? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: He also had another third and fifteen, scrambled for seventeen
Speaker 3: yards and moved the chains. You convert third and fifteen
Speaker 3: twice running the football as a quarterback in the National
Speaker 3: Football League. That is a unique weapon, to say the least.
Speaker 2: You know, and it goes back to what we've said
Speaker 2: about the defense. They will show flashes and they'll make
Speaker 2: a strip of the goal line like DJ Turner. You say,
Speaker 2: all right, they're starting to get it, and they'll just
Speaker 2: make a play that just makes you want to pull
Speaker 2: your hair out. They'll take a bad angle, Miles Murphy
Speaker 2: rushes inside and leaves Josh Allen to the outside. Uh
Speaker 2: DJ had a pass interference. DA's had hands to the face.
Speaker 2: They just there's that most inopportune moment. There'll be a breakdown,
Speaker 2: either trying too hard or being in the wrong spot
Speaker 2: or taking a bad angle, and it just makes you
Speaker 2: want to throw things.
Speaker 3: You know, I think you made a great call. There
Speaker 3: a great point trying too hard because this group they're
Speaker 3: not folding their tent. They're not quitting on the football team.
Speaker 3: They're not quitting on Al Golden. And that's that's the
Speaker 3: that's the tough thing to watch them, because I mean,
Speaker 3: watch them bust their ass in practice and they work
Speaker 3: at it. Man, Al Golden works them hard, and you know,
Speaker 3: you think, okay, this is the week. You know they're
Speaker 3: gonna really put it together this week. They maybe a shutout, Hey,
Speaker 3: pitch a shut out. When's the last time that happened?
Speaker 3: He Hey, pitch a shut out. Hold them to a
Speaker 3: you know, a touchdown or touchdown, a field goal, seven,
Speaker 3: ten points, whatever, and it just it just never materializes.
Speaker 3: It's got to be unbelievably frustrating that you know, what's
Speaker 3: it going to take to break that stretch.
Speaker 2: It's a great question. Sixty four thousand dollars question. Yep,
Speaker 2: Still ahead. Let's go offensive line here from Orlando Brown
Speaker 2: and talk about the day that was for that O
Speaker 2: line that allowed just one sack. More as we continue
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Speaker 2: Stick it up front, talk about the Bengals offensive line.
Speaker 2: Here's Orlando Brown after the game.
Speaker 11: It's for thirty plus points. And it felt like there
Speaker 11: were times, or Landa where you had the game in
Speaker 11: control of the second half. Did you feel like you
Speaker 11: guys were imposing your well offensively.
Speaker 23: Yeah, you know, sometimes it's hard for me from an
Speaker 23: offensive line perspective. I'm just trying to keep Joe Clean
Speaker 23: be physical in the run game, you know, in terms
Speaker 23: of momentum.
Speaker 3: It's hard to tell you, you know what I mean.
Speaker 23: I don't have a for sure answer, but I think
Speaker 23: just in terms of what I was feeling from my
Speaker 23: perspective up front, I feel like we were handling them
Speaker 23: pretty well.
Speaker 11: Part thing is, you see what it looks like now
Speaker 11: when you have the entire offense healthy back together and
Speaker 11: it might be too late for you guys to go
Speaker 11: where you want to go. Is that the hardest part
Speaker 11: to say that, look what it looks like, but we
Speaker 11: might not have the time to do it.
Speaker 23: Yeah, no, man, I mean, you know, I think what's
Speaker 23: important is the character of our team, and especially when
Speaker 23: I look at the front of the room in terms
Speaker 23: of guys like Joe, jamar T, myself, to you know,
Speaker 23: leaders of the offense. Just a bunch of guys that
Speaker 23: love the game of football, that want to fight, you know,
Speaker 23: that love to come out here and play for the city,
Speaker 23: this organization and for each other. And to me, you know,
Speaker 23: things things will come around, you know, it's it's it's
Speaker 23: an interesting part about football.
Speaker 3: This is always important to keep perspective. You know, you
Speaker 3: never necessarily know how things.
Speaker 23: Are gonna go. You always uh got to attack. You
Speaker 23: can't necessarily fill it out. But that's the beauty of
Speaker 23: the sport.
Speaker 11: When the team has back to back interceptions like that,
Speaker 11: how hard is it to take that kind of a
Speaker 11: punch and win a game?
Speaker 23: Yeah, yeah, it's that's tough, man, that's tough. And you know,
Speaker 23: we'll we'll learn from our mistakes and and you know,
Speaker 23: be able to I guess you could.
Speaker 3: Say grow or figure that out.
Speaker 2: Orlando Brown breaking it all down, Joe Burrow through it
Speaker 2: thirty six times with sack just once, if I remember correctly,
Speaker 2: that was the was the blind side sack he took
Speaker 2: on a It was on a blitz and it took
Speaker 2: them out of field goal range. And that's the only time.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think you can make it. I don't
Speaker 2: even think there's an argument to it. The way this
Speaker 2: offensive line and I know they didn't run it great yesterday,
Speaker 2: but the way they've settled in as a group in
Speaker 2: this stretch here of late is it's been pretty solid,
Speaker 2: hasn't it.
Speaker 3: I agree, lance solid is a good word for it.
Speaker 3: Maybe a cut above solid, you know, is it? Uh,
Speaker 3: you know, pro Bowl level outstanding no, not not there yet,
Speaker 3: but go against that Buffalo Bills defensive front and literally
Speaker 3: not give up a sack other than a free runner
Speaker 3: Blitzer off the slot corner. And Joe never saw him,
Speaker 3: like he said, blindside, never got his eyes to that
Speaker 3: backside at all. And man, that was another play he made.
Speaker 3: The fact that he held on that football, to me
Speaker 3: was amazing. He took a shot man and and he
Speaker 3: you know, was able to tucket man put it, put
Speaker 3: it away and not not lose the football, put it
Speaker 3: in jeopardy that way. But I talking to the coaches,
Speaker 3: uh and and UH talking to the players after the game,
Speaker 3: they were pretty happy with their protection. And the guy
Speaker 3: that was happiest was Joe Burrow. He said, laugh, I'm
Speaker 3: telling you, man out the pass protection was outstanding them
Speaker 3: and the the the way you want it done. The
Speaker 3: tackles kept the pocket wide, the guard and two guards
Speaker 3: in center kept the pocket depth. For me, he said,
Speaker 3: I was able to really there were times where he
Speaker 3: was in the pocket, you know, pat in the football
Speaker 3: looking down the football field. And when you can do
Speaker 3: that in today's NFL, that's that's pretty good stuff. So
Speaker 3: I do think that the offensive line is getting better
Speaker 3: and better. And I do think Orlando Brown and Marius
Speaker 3: Mimms had a big game pass protecting at the tackle
Speaker 3: possession position, and it starts there. Ted Carrits did a
Speaker 3: great job of not only blocking but leading the football team,
Speaker 3: making all the calls and Buffalo runs a lot of stuff,
Speaker 3: you know, they were they were changing things up a
Speaker 3: little bit, and he did a great job of sorting
Speaker 3: it out. And Bobby Babbage has some significant pressure packages
Speaker 3: that you know, take a little bit to make sure,
Speaker 3: you know, you get the right people blocked up and
Speaker 3: and Ted did a good job.
Speaker 2: David there there was a stretch in a time where
Speaker 2: they were asking it awful lot of two rookie guards
Speaker 2: with Fairchild and Rivers. Rivers hurt his ankle and Dalton
Speaker 2: Reisner was plucked back in it. And I think people
Speaker 2: forget Dalton was signed really late in camp and on
Speaker 2: the fly joined this and like on the fly, they
Speaker 2: plugged him in and I'm sure that was a struggle
Speaker 2: for him and he got dinged up a little bit.
Speaker 2: Since he's been back in and filling in for Rivers,
Speaker 2: it seems like Dalton Reisner, is it fair to say
Speaker 2: he's been a piece that's helped settle things down.
Speaker 3: I think so Lance. And part of it is it's
Speaker 3: a real good call by you. Part of it is
Speaker 3: he's a veteran. You know, he's been around, he's been
Speaker 3: he's been to multiple wars, you know, talking talking to him,
Speaker 3: he has a very high football IQ. Ted Carriss has
Speaker 3: a very high football IQ. Fairchild is is you know,
Speaker 3: it's got a great football i Q. But he's a
Speaker 3: young buck you know, rookie try and still learning. But
Speaker 3: he played, you know Georgia man, he played high level
Speaker 3: of football. He is not overmatch physically whatsoever. So I
Speaker 3: think I think the future is bright. I really do.
Speaker 3: I think that. Uh, you know, Marius Mims is a
Speaker 3: young buck man and he is a big, strong horse.
Speaker 3: You know, Marius Mims, Dylan Fairchild. They've got some pieces.
Speaker 3: They got some young pieces that they're they're putting together
Speaker 3: and building that offensive line.
Speaker 2: All right, when we come back, could we spend a
Speaker 2: couple of minutes maybe on Jermaine Burton? Yes, O, good
Speaker 2: way to put it. That is ahead Bengals on on
Speaker 2: the Bengals Radio network and seven hundred WLW. All right
Speaker 2: down the stretch we go Bengals Line and the Bengals
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Speaker 2: put our second hour in the books, Big third hour
Speaker 2: to follow. Here more from Zach, here, more from Joe,
Speaker 2: and we'll do our fantastic fun facts with Joe Flacco
Speaker 2: as well. By the way, and I just looked at
Speaker 2: it on of my notes and I meant to bring
Speaker 2: it up. You know, the one guy yesterday who didn't
Speaker 2: break a sweat and probably got bored was the Bills
Speaker 2: punter Mitch Wishnowski. Did not punt it all yesterday, not
Speaker 2: a single punt yesterday. The Bills have used three different
Speaker 2: punters this year, including Brad Robbins of one time Bengal,
Speaker 2: but Mitch yesterday did not have to.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: I was probably forget about breaking his sweat. He was
Speaker 2: probably just freezing his tail off, just sitting there saying, guys,
Speaker 2: let me run around, put me on the field for
Speaker 2: at least a punt. But I guess he's okay, not punning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's okay, not punning for sure, And yeah, I
Speaker 3: just keep running the offense and he's the holder. So
Speaker 3: like a lot of punners, a lot of punters are holders.
Speaker 3: For their for their teammate, their place kicker. So he did.
Speaker 3: He did a phenomenal job holding and that's uh his contribution.
Speaker 3: When he called home, talked to his parents to go, yeah,
Speaker 3: did you see me?
Speaker 2: You see the see me?
Speaker 3: Hold that thing? I man, I caught it and spun
Speaker 3: that ball the laces and I spun him away from
Speaker 3: the kicker.
Speaker 2: I did a hell of a job his pro football
Speaker 2: focus great is great.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's a perfect score.
Speaker 2: All right. Uh, well you can laugh about that, and no,
Speaker 2: my head's gonna hurt. And we're going to talk about
Speaker 2: Jermaine and Burton, who unfortunately was suspended yesterday, did not
Speaker 2: travel with the team, and Dave, a third round pick
Speaker 2: last year, the eightieth overall. Who I thought about this
Speaker 2: this morning. What an opportunity to think. You come out
Speaker 2: of college, you get drafted in the third round, you
Speaker 2: go to Cincinnati, you're you're you're giving Joe Burrow to
Speaker 2: work with and and Tea and Jamar to learn from,
Speaker 2: and you talk about squandering opportunity after opportunity.
Speaker 3: Boy, when they drafted him, they thought, here's our third
Speaker 3: receiver and the three receiver package, and they were they
Speaker 3: were unbelievably excited about adding him to the mix, and
Speaker 3: good reason. I mean, he is a gifted athlete. This guy,
Speaker 3: his size, speed, ray show is as good as anybody
Speaker 3: in the National Football League. He's a physical marvel. You know,
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of guys on the team,
Speaker 3: a lot of defensive backs say that he's he's he's
Speaker 3: as good as anybody that got on the roster.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 3: But man, he's immature. Just can't get it figured out.
Speaker 3: Just uh, he's late more than he's on time.
Speaker 12: You know.
Speaker 3: It's I remember Paul Brown used to say, when you're
Speaker 3: showing me things like that, not taking notes and meetings,
Speaker 3: showing up late doing you are telling me the game's
Speaker 3: not important enough to you. And when the game's not
Speaker 3: important enough to you, I don't have time for you.
Speaker 3: So it's sad to see him. Yes, just let a career,
Speaker 3: potential career that could be really good, just go away,
Speaker 3: you know, not materialize, never get started. And what could
Speaker 3: have been, you know what could have been if there
Speaker 3: are so many guys in college football right now that
Speaker 3: if you said, hey, who what wide receiver out here
Speaker 3: wants to be the third guy to h to Jamar
Speaker 3: Chase and t Higgins with Joe Borrow throwing you in
Speaker 3: the football. Everybody had raised one hand, both hands, jump
Speaker 3: up and down or whatever. Me me, I'm I'm ready
Speaker 3: to pick on, pick me out and that that has
Speaker 3: been presented to him, and he said no thanks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And boy, when I think of him, I always
Speaker 2: go back to the draft day vision. They had the
Speaker 2: camera in the Bengals draft room at the time and
Speaker 2: and Zach you know, slapped the table and was hugging
Speaker 2: and there there was genuine exciting Yeah, that pick was
Speaker 2: made of We got him. We've got a talent that
Speaker 2: we can put to use. And it just I mean,
Speaker 2: he's played fourteen games, he has four catches, he's been
Speaker 2: inactive all this season, and it's just man, and there's
Speaker 2: been there's been a lot going on in his life
Speaker 2: at various levels, for various things that I'm not privy to,
Speaker 2: and I don't want to spect you right right, It's
Speaker 2: just whatever it is. You one hope it gets fixed
Speaker 2: in two. You just wonder if the organization can continue
Speaker 2: to wait and and just deal with everything that is
Speaker 2: piling up on his plate.
Speaker 3: It's just, yeah, I mean, how many chances will he get?
Speaker 10: You know?
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like maybe some of the things you're
Speaker 3: talking about off the football field with his life, problems
Speaker 3: with his family or friends, whatever the case may be. Okay, well,
Speaker 3: let's give him another chance. Let's see if it can
Speaker 3: work his way through this and work his way out
Speaker 3: of it and you know, focus on the game of
Speaker 3: football and do what he needs to do to be
Speaker 3: a productive football player for the Cincinnati Bank in the
Speaker 3: National Football League. But man, how many times? How many
Speaker 3: chances can you afford to give a guy? And it's
Speaker 3: a sad state of affairs, it really is. It's a
Speaker 3: tough story, no.
Speaker 2: Doubt, no doubt. We've completed two hours. Our third to follow.
Speaker 2: You'll hear a little bit more on Zach. You'll hear
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Speaker 2: We heard a little bit from QB one Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: early in the show. Let's pick up the rest of
Speaker 2: his reflections on yesterday's defeat and what is ahead of
Speaker 2: the remaining four games of the season. Here's Joe Burrow.
Speaker 10: Playing the guy in a game with a guy like Josh.
Speaker 4: I mean, do you feel like you have to.
Speaker 10: Do you feel like you got a match him?
Speaker 23: Or what was it like?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Try to keep gable?
Speaker 8: Yeah, we knew what kind of game it was gonna be. Uh,
Speaker 8: obviously he's a great player and makes plays in all
Speaker 8: kinds of situations. And you know, I think the last
Speaker 8: play was the epitome of who he is as a player.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 8: You gotta account for for everything with him, and he
Speaker 8: did a great job today.
Speaker 7: Oh oh, the next four game, you said, well, potationally
Speaker 7: not like you. What do you do you what would
Speaker 7: you hope to see over the next four game to
Speaker 7: show you that this thing games billion or constant teams pass.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 8: We're just gonna go out and try to execute and
Speaker 8: play well and win games. You know, we'll look at
Speaker 8: all the big picture stuff when it's all set and down.
Speaker 12: This year.
Speaker 7: This is like a lot of games.
Speaker 12: You guys have been in shootouts where you come when
Speaker 12: you score, like your plays and you don't get there.
Speaker 7: How do you indulem utily you being in so many
Speaker 7: of He's where thirty.
Speaker 8: Four isn't enough. Yeah, I mean, you know that might've
Speaker 8: I think I've matured this year and gain some perspective
Speaker 8: on on and everything when I was out and I'm
Speaker 8: just grateful to to be out there and be able
Speaker 8: to be a quarterback in the NFL and be one
Speaker 8: of the best. You know, I'm I don't take that
Speaker 8: for granted, and I work really hard to, like I said,
Speaker 8: put myself in a position to to do that. It's
Speaker 8: just like everybody else in there. So that's what I'm
Speaker 8: gonna do. I'm I'm a I'm a player, and I'm
Speaker 8: gonna go and try to play as good as I
Speaker 8: can and see where we're at. See where we're at.
Speaker 10: The first touchdowns are tea that that's which.
Speaker 2: That Eve gonna make you catch.
Speaker 8: No, I've seen him make that catch a million times.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 8: You know that's one where you just put some air
Speaker 8: on and let Tea go and make a play, and
Speaker 8: that's a that's what he does.
Speaker 7: What did he say about Tea.
Speaker 22: That you know, you you really bought to you every
Speaker 22: you can go to stay in the game, really use
Speaker 22: a ad of it that you wanted.
Speaker 8: What was Yeah too, he's a tough guy. I think
Speaker 8: he's gotten tougher over the years. You know, back in
Speaker 8: the day, he would get hit and I'd hold my
Speaker 8: breath cause he would lay there for a second and
Speaker 8: then he'd pop back up. I think everybody remembers that.
Speaker 8: Now this pop up game is pretty good, and so
Speaker 8: that's good to see. Doesn't doesn't scare me quite as much.
Speaker 8: But he's as tough as they come, and he's gonna
Speaker 8: continue to make big time plays in big time spots.
Speaker 8: That's that's who he is, or or stuff like that.
Speaker 7: That kind of your mentality about then, what's that say
Speaker 7: to you?
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, it gives me a lot of confidence throwing
Speaker 8: them the ball in a lot of different situations. You know,
Speaker 8: there's I'm gonna protect him with the ball as good
Speaker 8: as much as I can, you know, over the middle
Speaker 8: and in vulnerable positions. But you know, sometimes in big
Speaker 8: spots you're gonna have to fit a ball in there
Speaker 8: where you know receiver's gonna know that he's gonna get hit.
Speaker 8: And when you have guys like Tea and the n A,
Speaker 8: all of our guys, really it gives you a lot
Speaker 8: of confidence to uh try to fit it fit that
Speaker 8: ball in those windows because they can handle it.
Speaker 14: You talked about the perspective from being out and and
Speaker 14: maybe how that's helped shape how you view this season.
Speaker 7: Is it a hard balance between you, I believe on
Speaker 7: the things two menus that you get paid a lot
Speaker 7: of money.
Speaker 6: Plate it's getting you're out there playing in the snow
Speaker 6: a game against you know from.
Speaker 7: The top quarterbacks, you're having fun. You don't come out
Speaker 7: to win.
Speaker 6: To enjoy that moment while also knowing you're out where
Speaker 6: you want to be. Is that a hard balance to
Speaker 6: make sure that you, you know, remember these moments, but
Speaker 6: it doesn't a shadow where you feel about what you
Speaker 6: guys have made you so that you're playing in the playoffs.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it, you know it had That's that's been a
Speaker 8: struggle for the last couple of years. But I've grown
Speaker 8: and and matured and understood the position that you know,
Speaker 8: we find ourselves in and certainly the last ten weeks
Speaker 8: UH has has shown me a lot.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 8: Like I said, I'm just happy to be out there.
Speaker 8: You know, we we want to win games and be
Speaker 8: in the playoffs and and do everything that you know,
Speaker 8: we say that we're capable of doing. But you know,
Speaker 8: when I came back, I knew it was gonna be
Speaker 8: an uphill battle. We were we were three and eight
Speaker 8: at that point. That's certainly not a playoff caliber position
Speaker 8: to be in. And you know, really we're we're still
Speaker 8: not out of it. We're gonna be We're gonna be
Speaker 8: three games back. I don't know who who won between
Speaker 8: the Ravens and the Steelers. Somebody have some information for
Speaker 8: me who did Steelers one. I think that makes it
Speaker 8: a little tougher that that probably lowers our our chances
Speaker 8: even more. But you know, that's how the cookie crumbles.
Speaker 8: I knew, like I said, I knew it was gonna
Speaker 8: be an uphill battle for us when when I was
Speaker 8: coming back, And that's not you know, that wasn't really
Speaker 8: in my thought process too much. And I just want
Speaker 8: to come back and put on a show and play
Speaker 8: well in front of everybody.
Speaker 7: The city Sydney guys touchdown to him and.
Speaker 10: Had came over out of practice.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was Yeah, that was a fun one.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 8: You know, we saw a look in practice and you know,
Speaker 8: talked about it after and it was just like, Mike,
Speaker 8: if you get that log, go ahead and do that.
Speaker 8: That's what he did and this is exactly how it
Speaker 8: played out in practice, you know, slightly different, but very similar,
Speaker 8: and so would be able to execute that. It was,
Speaker 8: that's fine.
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow after the game and Dave we were talking
Speaker 2: in the first segment about what's ahead and and commitment
Speaker 2: to it. And Joe was asked yesterday about, you know,
Speaker 2: four games left, playoff odds that have diminished a little bit.
Speaker 2: But Joe said, look, I I worked my butt off
Speaker 2: to come back. Some would say, now, okay, we saw
Speaker 2: you your healthy, let's not risk anything in the four
Speaker 2: Joseph the mindset, I didn't work my tail off to
Speaker 2: get back here, so I can sit the final four games.
Speaker 2: Whether we've got one percent chance of making the playoffs
Speaker 2: or ninety seven, I'm playing football. That's Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3: Love the man, Yes, I mean love everything about him.
Speaker 3: And his teammates do too. I mean, you know they're
Speaker 3: gonna go to battle, and they're gonna go go to
Speaker 3: battle with Joe Burrow, and Joe Burrow is gonna go
Speaker 3: to battle with them and they are gonna fight their
Speaker 3: tails off. So you know, make no mistake about it,
Speaker 3: Joe Burrows is here to play football. He gets paid
Speaker 3: handsomely to play football, and even if he didn't, he's
Speaker 3: just one of those guys that loves the games. He's
Speaker 3: all about football. It's it. It's part of his life.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a big part of his life. He
Speaker 3: just everything he does is geared toward becoming more proficient
Speaker 3: and better at the game.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 2: It's hard to believe, and it's part of the you know,
Speaker 2: Joe famously said the window is his career and Dave
Speaker 2: were looking at sadly and frustratingly, this could be the
Speaker 2: third straight year. With a lot of circumstances unfolding and injuries,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be the third straight year Joe Burrow is
Speaker 2: not going to be in the playoffs. And that's tough
Speaker 2: to digest when you start thinking Joe's age in twenty nineties,
Speaker 2: not old, but man, three years in a window without
Speaker 2: the playoffs.
Speaker 3: And really around the league I mean there's a bunch
Speaker 3: of head coaches and offensive coordinators and quarterback coaches saying
Speaker 3: I'll take them.
Speaker 2: Yep, you know.
Speaker 3: I'll raise my hand, I raise both my hands. I'll
Speaker 3: jump up and down. Are you kidding me? A talent
Speaker 3: like Joe Burrow? We cannot find the right quarterback. That's
Speaker 3: the only component we have missing. We've got a bunch
Speaker 3: of ingredients. But man, you gotta have that one man.
Speaker 3: You gotta have the foundational guy. And Joe Burrow's a
Speaker 3: foundational guy. He's one of the best guys to ever
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 2: We'll take them, no doubt. Still ahead on the quarterback theme,
Speaker 2: how about fantastic fun facts with Joe Flacco. You're gonna
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Speaker 2: Fantastic Fun Facts, a chance to kind of pull back
Speaker 2: the curtain and learn more about the player and about
Speaker 2: the person. This week in the spotlight is the Bengals
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Speaker 1: Fantastic Fun Facts with Dan Ord.
Speaker 18: Time for some fun facts with Joe Flacco from Audubon,
Speaker 18: New Jersey, which is basically a suburb of Philly. Just
Speaker 18: cross the Delaware River and you're there. You're from a
Speaker 18: big family. How big? And what did your folks do
Speaker 18: for a living?
Speaker 16: I'm the oldest of six, got four brothers and a sister.
Speaker 16: My mom stayed at home and was, you know, responsible
Speaker 16: for raising us and the people we are and basically
Speaker 16: running the entire family. And then my dad had his
Speaker 16: own mortgage business with a couple guys.
Speaker 18: I'm one of five, so I can identify with what
Speaker 18: your mom did for the family. You're six six. Where
Speaker 18: did you get your height?
Speaker 16: I'm not sure. We joke around, you know, old fashioned
Speaker 16: the milkman.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 16: My mom's like, you know, like five six. Maybe she's
Speaker 16: five seven. My dad's maybe five eleven, So not quite
Speaker 16: sure where it comes from.
Speaker 18: Did you have to work hard at being at sports
Speaker 18: or did it pretty much come naturally.
Speaker 16: I think you always had. I think when you have
Speaker 16: an interest in sports from an early age, you just
Speaker 16: naturally work hard at it. It's just what you like
Speaker 16: to do. So it's tough to say. I feel like
Speaker 16: I've always been good at it. I feel like it
Speaker 16: came naturally. But at the same time, I've always been
Speaker 16: interested in it, so it was something that I was
Speaker 16: always doing, always developing. So yeah, it's tough to probably say.
Speaker 18: Honestly, you started your college football career at Pitt. You
Speaker 18: red shirted your first year, and then you were a
Speaker 18: backup your second year. Is that what you expected or
Speaker 18: were you disappointed that you didn't get a faster opportunity.
Speaker 16: I don't know exactly what I expected. I probably expected
Speaker 16: to go in and start as as quickly as I can.
Speaker 16: At some point I was hoping to get an opportunity.
Speaker 16: I think I was not okay, but okay with my
Speaker 16: second year being where I was, But by that third year,
Speaker 16: I really wanted I really wanted to be playing football.
Speaker 16: And it wasn't looking like that was going to happen,
Speaker 16: and that's kind of what led to go to go
Speaker 16: to Delaware.
Speaker 18: Why did you choose Delaware?
Speaker 16: Well, really, I mean there was no portal back in
Speaker 16: the day, and I got recruited, but like, I wasn't
Speaker 16: like a huge recruit, so it was tough to really
Speaker 16: find out if anybody wanted me. And you know what,
Speaker 16: my it wasn't like I really had very many options
Speaker 16: or a decision to make. But Delaware was a team
Speaker 16: that recruited me a little bit out of high school
Speaker 16: as a smaller school that probably understood that I wasn't
Speaker 16: going to go there. But Casey Keeler was known for
Speaker 16: kind of getting some transfers and my high school coach
Speaker 16: my senior year played for him. Played for Casey at
Speaker 16: Rowan I don't know if it was rowing then or
Speaker 16: Glassboro State in South Jersey, so there was a little
Speaker 16: bit of a connection there and I kind of found
Speaker 16: out that they were interested in having me and ended
Speaker 16: up like late summer, you know, deciding to go there
Speaker 16: really because at that point it was the only option,
Speaker 16: you know, but they did have a rich tradition in football,
Speaker 16: and you know, the state of Delaware cares a lot
Speaker 16: about the Blue Hens, so it was a cool place
Speaker 16: to go.
Speaker 18: You wound up being the eighteenth pick in the draft
Speaker 18: by Baltimore, the second quarterback selected your year. What was
Speaker 18: it like to get that phone call from Ozzie Newsom?
Speaker 16: Getting that call was surreal. I mean, sitting there with
Speaker 16: your family and something that you've kind of envisioned since
Speaker 16: you can remember, and probably wasn't as really as I
Speaker 16: think it was. But from the time I can remember,
Speaker 16: you know, I wanted to be a professional athlete. You know,
Speaker 16: probably started with baseball and went to football and baseball
Speaker 16: and ended up at football. So to get that call
Speaker 16: is obviously very special. It's something you can probably take
Speaker 16: for granted at certain times just because it seemed like,
Speaker 16: I don't know, it's at different times you kind of
Speaker 16: feel like it's going to happen at some point, But
Speaker 16: looking back, it's one of those things that it's always
Speaker 16: going to be really special because it's something that you
Speaker 16: envisioned doing from the time you were seven or eight
Speaker 16: years old.
Speaker 18: We're visiting the Joe Flacco. You took the Ravens to
Speaker 18: the playoffs each of your first four years. You want
Speaker 18: a playoff game every year, and then in year five
Speaker 18: he led Baltimore to the super Bowl title. There are
Speaker 18: thirty five quarterbacks who have led their team to a
Speaker 18: super Bowl title. When I express it in those terms,
Speaker 18: what does that say to you?
Speaker 16: You know, it's one of those times where you don't
Speaker 16: as a player. I don't think you do sit back
Speaker 16: and reflect enough on how special it is to get
Speaker 16: to do what we do. I don't think you you know,
Speaker 16: I don't, and I'm not somebody that does it either.
Speaker 16: I don't think we sit back and look at what
Speaker 16: we just did or what we've done over the last
Speaker 16: five years. And the older I get, I think it's
Speaker 16: kind of important to do that, because when you don't
Speaker 16: do that, no matter what you do for a living,
Speaker 16: it can turn into a job to you know at times,
Speaker 16: and I think when you hit me with stuff like that,
Speaker 16: and when you're able to sit around some family members
Speaker 16: and friends and tell stories and kind of have those
Speaker 16: little moments where you do remind yourself of how lucky
Speaker 16: you are, it puts things back in perspective and allows
Speaker 16: you to enjoy it a lot more. I think when
Speaker 16: you don't do those things, which I don't naturally like
Speaker 16: think about those things unless I am telling stories, which
Speaker 16: I like to do.
Speaker 10: It.
Speaker 16: It's pretty damn cool. I mean, you have to go
Speaker 16: back and put yourself in the shoes of when you
Speaker 16: were a young kid slash teenager and you were hoping
Speaker 16: to be in this position one day. And you know,
Speaker 16: when you hear things like that from other people, you
Speaker 16: do turn back into that kid, and you can put
Speaker 16: it in that kind of view and that perspective and
Speaker 16: really enjoy it.
Speaker 18: After eleven years in Baltimore, you've bounced around since, with
Speaker 18: six teams over the last seven years. I suppose on
Speaker 18: one hand, it's nice to be a guy that plays
Speaker 18: for one team his entire career. On the other hand,
Speaker 18: you've made so many friends and seeing how different teams
Speaker 18: do it. Has that been enjoyable in a certain way
Speaker 18: for sure?
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's a good way to put it, you know.
Speaker 16: I think ultimately it would have been great to play
Speaker 16: twenty years in one spot, you know, and call it
Speaker 16: a day. But that's not my life. This is my life,
Speaker 16: and you got to look at the positives in it.
Speaker 16: And I do think there are a lot of positives
Speaker 16: in going from team to team and meeting different coaches
Speaker 16: and seeing how different coaches do it, and meeting different players,
Speaker 16: and seeing different locker rooms, and just enjoying different cities,
Speaker 16: you know, getting to see different parts of the country
Speaker 16: and actually live there for a little bit of time.
Speaker 16: I think because I have played a good amount and
Speaker 16: am a little bit older now I can enjoy those things.
Speaker 16: I think if you were to tell me that, if
Speaker 16: you were to tell me there was going to be
Speaker 16: positives in that when I was twenty three, I probably
Speaker 16: wouldn't have believed you and wouldn't have wanted to do that.
Speaker 16: But there have been positives. Yeah, Listen, I wish the
Speaker 16: last seven years, you know, with all those positives, I
Speaker 16: do wish the last seven years were probably a little
Speaker 16: bit different than that. But definitely a lot of cool
Speaker 16: things about doing what I've gotten to do in the
Speaker 16: last few years.
Speaker 18: You've got five kids. They were too young or not
Speaker 18: born when you won the Super so earlier this year,
Speaker 18: when you beat the Steelers on Thursday night, when you
Speaker 18: threw for four seventy against the Bears. Now your kids
Speaker 18: are old enough to watch it and appreciate it. Is
Speaker 18: that the best part about still playing at forty.
Speaker 16: It's definitely a cool part of it, it really is.
Speaker 16: And they just want more. You know, you do one game,
Speaker 16: they want more, they want more.
Speaker 12: You know.
Speaker 16: It's very I think a couple of years ago. I
Speaker 16: think in twenty three when I got signed and went
Speaker 16: to Cleveland and that was like the first real time
Speaker 16: that they actually cared, you know, in twenty nineteen. Yeah,
Speaker 16: like by the time I left Baltimore, like they had
Speaker 16: they were, you know, six years old. I think I
Speaker 16: was at six or something like that. Like you'd think
Speaker 16: they'd be old enough to kind of get it a
Speaker 16: little bit, but they don't, not until they're nine, ten, eleven,
Speaker 16: you know. And twenty three was the first time where
Speaker 16: like even though I signed late, like when I signed there,
Speaker 16: I was the guy and I got to go win
Speaker 16: and play some good games. That was the first real
Speaker 16: time that they understand of what was going on and
Speaker 16: got to be a part of it. And that's I
Speaker 16: think that was the cool part. Is you always enjoy
Speaker 16: sharing these things and with and having the people that
Speaker 16: you really love and care about be a part of
Speaker 16: it with you. And when it's your kids, that's just
Speaker 16: a whole other level of like love and care that
Speaker 16: you have for somebody, And it definitely did make it
Speaker 16: pretty special. I think it was special for them, but
Speaker 16: you know, like whatever, they're kids, they're gonna you know,
Speaker 16: it was definitely special for me because I think, just
Speaker 16: like I said, the more people that you care about
Speaker 16: that you get to bring in on this thing and
Speaker 16: enjoy it with, it just makes it that much sweeter.
Speaker 16: If it was just me hanging out there, and yeah,
Speaker 16: it would have been fun with my teammates and all that,
Speaker 16: but then you go home to an empty house and
Speaker 16: you kind of Okay, it's over. When you have people
Speaker 16: to enjoy it with, that mean a lot to you.
Speaker 16: It definitely means something else. So that was my first
Speaker 16: taste of it, and and yeah, it was pretty cool.
Speaker 18: He went viral several weeks ago for discussing the joys
Speaker 18: of going to a restaurant alone. How did your wife
Speaker 18: take that?
Speaker 16: She laughed, just like everybody else. Yeah, she You know,
Speaker 16: we're so past that point where it's like what.
Speaker 18: Are you doing?
Speaker 8: You're doing this and I'm doing that.
Speaker 16: You know, we've gone through those stages where you may
Speaker 16: want to feel a certain way about what the other
Speaker 16: person's doing. You know, we're so past that thankfully, And
Speaker 16: I and I and I think she's at the point too,
Speaker 16: like she wants to see me have success and she's
Speaker 16: she's she's partaking in that success. I mean, she's a
Speaker 16: huge part of that. So you know, if people are
Speaker 16: getting a good laugh out of eye interviews or anything
Speaker 16: like that, I think she's kind of enjoying it.
Speaker 8: For the most part too.
Speaker 18: Final fun fact, this one's kind of deep. If you
Speaker 18: could meet anyone in history, living or deceased, who would
Speaker 18: that person be?
Speaker 16: Wow, I'm good at these questions. I don't know if
Speaker 16: I have anybody specific. You know, we were just talking
Speaker 16: about all the unknowns that are in this world, and man,
Speaker 16: what would you like answers to? And you know, what
Speaker 16: would it be cool if you knew the answers to.
Speaker 16: I mean, shoot, I'd love to go back to when
Speaker 16: those pyramids are built then talk to somebody from that time,
Speaker 16: you know, and see what was the deal with that.
Speaker 16: But it's hard for me to pick out somebody specific.
Speaker 18: I'll cut your break because you've answered every other question
Speaker 18: beautifully and it's been a real treat to see you
Speaker 18: play and to see you lead this team.
Speaker 4: Thanks so much, Joe, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I say it every time I hear Joe Flacco talk.
Speaker 2: I loved until he came here. My exposure to Joe
Speaker 2: Flacco was just like sound bites when he played on
Speaker 2: various teams. You'd hear a comment after a game. But
Speaker 2: the more he talks and the more reflective you understand
Speaker 2: he is. And you said it a couple of weeks ago, Dave,
Speaker 2: there is in your mind. I think a lot of
Speaker 2: people's minds there's a spot for Joe Flacco on this
Speaker 2: roster next season, assuming there's comfort here on both sides,
Speaker 2: and assuming there's not an opportunity to start someplace else.
Speaker 2: I think we both could see Joe Flacco on this
Speaker 2: team next year.
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, He'd be the ideal number two quarterback for
Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals. I mean, he's already made some serious friends, yeah,
Speaker 3: relationships on this football team. I mean, Joe Flacco is
Speaker 3: really a good person. I mean, married, so, a husband,
Speaker 3: father of five. He's a busy guy. And the fact
Speaker 3: is when he went in the football to play football
Speaker 3: games in the absence of Joe Borrow, he did well.
Speaker 3: He performed well, and I think that what he has
Speaker 3: done this year and how he's integrated himself with everybody,
Speaker 3: with the coaches, with the players, with the system, how
Speaker 3: they want to play football. He fits what they want
Speaker 3: in a quarterback. I'd be surprised if he doesn't have
Speaker 3: a better option, like you said, Lance, because I think
Speaker 3: he's played well off where other teams in the league
Speaker 3: are gonna be like now, he's you know, he's long
Speaker 3: in the tooth, forty years old. That's an issue, but
Speaker 3: you know, the guy can still spin it.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: He's proven he can still throw it and throw it
Speaker 3: well and did a good job for the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 3: I think the Bengal would be thrilled to have Joe
Speaker 3: Burrow Joe Flacko back in training camp next year, backing
Speaker 3: up Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the only problem. There's two Joes, and I
Speaker 2: always catch myself which I start to say one and
Speaker 2: I meet the other and we come back and change
Speaker 2: his name. Still ahead, let's talk about those Ravens. You'll
Speaker 2: hear John Harbaugh's opening thoughts from their loss yesterday to
Speaker 2: the Steelers, and we'll look ahead to the rematch against Baltimore.
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Speaker 2: Next up, Baltimore Ravens. Tough luck losers yesterday at home
Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty two to the Steelers. Ravens dropped
Speaker 2: to six and seven. Controversy late when a touchdown was
Speaker 2: overturned that the Ravens looked like they had taken the lead,
Speaker 2: but it's a rule of no catch and they fall
Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty two. Here's John Harball after the game.
Speaker 24: All right, good game, tough loss. Fought to the end
Speaker 24: four games last Season's not over. Fighting for THEFC North
Speaker 24: for the next four games. That's where we stand. What questions,
Speaker 24: Jee on.
Speaker 11: The replay, it looked like Isaiah had got in two
Speaker 11: feet down. What was the explanation that was given to
Speaker 11: you on the sideline?
Speaker 24: Yeah, the explanation was a third foot didn't get down
Speaker 24: before the ball came out.
Speaker 3: That's what they said.
Speaker 10: Do you believe it should have been touchdown?
Speaker 24: Uh, you know what, I believe a lot of things
Speaker 24: I think, I think to play with I think the
Speaker 24: Aaron Rodgers play, I mean just com of rules here.
Speaker 24: It's not an officiating issue.
Speaker 18: It comes from New York.
Speaker 24: But you know when you when you when you're making
Speaker 24: a catch, you have to you have to you have
Speaker 24: to survive the ground. You know, he he didn't survive
Speaker 24: the ground. He's no doubt, he's not down by contact.
Speaker 3: He was catching.
Speaker 24: He was catching the ball on the way down with
Speaker 24: another person. So you got to you gotta make a
Speaker 24: catch there and survive the ground. I don't know why
Speaker 24: it was ruled the way it was on that one.
Speaker 24: So all those things, I'm sure we'll they'll explain to us.
Speaker 24: But they had plenty of time to look at and
Speaker 24: they're the ones who are the experts on the rules.
Speaker 18: So that's how it works.
Speaker 3: How was the Rogers playing that?
Speaker 10: He was just down with the progression of the book?
Speaker 7: John, what did you see on the Travis Jones so.
Speaker 24: Kindly on the field goal that I didn't see heading
Speaker 24: that contact, That's what I did not see. So but
Speaker 24: you you need to have head and head in that
Speaker 24: career of contact there and it's gotta be forceful, you know, contact,
Speaker 24: not incident contact. I didn't see any contact myself.
Speaker 10: John, How do you, you know, talk to the players
Speaker 10: when you know, in a game where you feel like
Speaker 10: some calls might not go on your way? How do
Speaker 10: you how do you address and kind of take this
Speaker 10: loss in and try to explain that.
Speaker 4: To you men?
Speaker 3: Your players?
Speaker 24: Yeah, I mean the players. The players don't you know,
Speaker 24: they know they've been in the NFL. They know how
Speaker 24: this stuff works, you know, And I tell them basically,
Speaker 24: we're not We're not. We're don't make any excuses. We
Speaker 24: don't put fingers. That's not what we do here.
Speaker 18: We never have.
Speaker 24: We walk out of here with our chest out and
Speaker 24: or chin up, you know, and we look to the
Speaker 24: next game.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 24: We are fighting still for everything that we want to accomplish,
Speaker 24: you know. So it's been it's tough. It's been a tough,
Speaker 24: challenging road for sure, but that's where we're you know,
Speaker 24: and we will keep fighting and we believe we can
Speaker 24: get it done.
Speaker 2: Ravens six and seven and Davids. We look to the
Speaker 2: rematch and think about what happened to the first one.
Speaker 2: Odds are the Ravens won't turn it over five times again.
Speaker 2: Odds are the Bengals won't be as bad as one
Speaker 2: for six in the red zone like they were, And
Speaker 2: odds are probably that Baltimore is not gonna get it's
Speaker 2: gonna feed Derek Henry more than the ten times in
Speaker 2: the first matchup.
Speaker 3: That's that's the crazy thing. I mean, because this guy,
Speaker 3: you talk about it, Piecet, you talk about an animal
Speaker 3: and pushing six to three, pushing two hundred and fifty
Speaker 3: pounds and can fly. I mean, it's that God blessed
Speaker 3: him with unique talents and there's broke them mold you
Speaker 3: know when they when they uh produced Derrick Henry, that
Speaker 3: was the end no more. He is something else and
Speaker 3: he wears you out. He just grinds on you, wears
Speaker 3: you down just and not going to wear you down
Speaker 3: though with only ten carries and and and the thing
Speaker 3: about him is a big power back like him. Uh,
Speaker 3: he can make you miss you know, and run away
Speaker 3: from you. And then if you you know, if you
Speaker 3: really play softly to you know, wait for the next
Speaker 3: move to make you miss move, he'll lower the pad
Speaker 3: level and just flatten your butt. Man, He'll run your
Speaker 3: ass over and and smile while he's doing it. He
Speaker 3: loves doing it. So yeah, they're they're an interesting football team.
Speaker 3: And uh, I have a lot of respect for Harball.
Speaker 3: I think he does a phenomenal job and and he
Speaker 3: players love to play for John Harbaugh. He is a
Speaker 3: players head coach.
Speaker 2: You better keep an eye on and tackle Mark Andrews.
Speaker 15: Yes, yes, another, Oh my god, Well down the Stretch
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Speaker 2: Right down the Stretch Final Thoughts up the night day.
Speaker 2: Four games to go. The scenario is simple, I don't know. Simple.
Speaker 2: You gotta win the final four. The Steelers have to
Speaker 2: lose three of their final four and the Ravens have
Speaker 2: to lose at least two of their four, and uh
Speaker 2: then the Bengals would win tiebreakers. But let's just focus
Speaker 2: on beating the Ravens. We'll go from there. How that
Speaker 2: sounds like a plan, because winning four when you've only
Speaker 2: won four to this point is a big hurdle.
Speaker 3: So let's just work on one very good point, very strong, and.
Speaker 2: Then we'll talk next week. He is dab five of
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