1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: The works the company in Loveland without further ado subbing 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: in for Donovan and Neil for Americans for Prosperity and Hey, 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: no problem with that. Adam Miller with Concerned Veterans for 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Ohio to talk about military actions in Iran. Adam, it's 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: a pleasure to have you on the program. Let me 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: start by thanking for you, thanking you for your service 7 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: to our country. 8 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: Good morning, and thank you for having me. 9 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 1: Got a busy day to day. I see you start now, 10 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: you're going to be a Jack Underwood show. Later you're 11 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: gonna be on the Windsor Report. I got the Windsor 12 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: Report on a weekly basis here on Fridays. So I'm 13 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: glad you're getting the word out real quick. Here an 14 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: opportunity for you to explain to my listeners about your organization, 15 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: Concerned Veterans for America High Chapter, and what you do 16 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: basically on a day to day basis before we dive 17 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: on into the Iranian situation. 18 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. So, Concern Veterans for America were a policy advocacy 19 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: organization that focuses on issues that they not only impact 20 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: veterans but all Americans. You know that for America part 21 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: of our name is kind of that guiding So the 22 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 2: important work that we do from from a legislative perspective, 23 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 2: it impacts every American in a positive way. So we 24 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 2: are a nonprofit, nonpartisan advocacy organization. 25 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: Fair enough, and that's good news for my veteran friends 26 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: and a listening audience. All right, pivoting over been talking about, 27 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: of course, since Saturday, the unleashing of fury on the Iranians. 28 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: We've been, I guess rather successful. I mean, most notably 29 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: that we blew all of the leading command and control 30 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,559 Speaker 1: structure up in one fell swoop. I guess they didn't 31 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: get the message that there's a thing called a zoom 32 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:32,279 Speaker 1: call my friend. 33 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm first and foremost, you know, Conserve Veterans 34 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: for America, where we're certainly praying for the safety and 35 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: security of American service members that are deployed in harm's way, 36 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: and we mourn the loss and injury of multiple members 37 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: of the armed forces. And you know, the Iranian regime, 38 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: it's a brutal regime, and the Iranian people they deserve 39 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: the right to chart their own path. But you know, 40 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 2: we do believe at the end of the day that 41 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: that Congress and the President should should debate these actions 42 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: and you know, possibly hold a vote to authorize or 43 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: oppose it. You know, the Constitution it does put the 44 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 2: war war power making in the hands of Congress. While 45 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: while we know that Congress hasn't declared war since nineteen 46 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 2: forty two, we do think that the American people, I'm 47 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: sure should have a seat at the table. 48 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'm glad to hear that. Although as 49 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: I stare at you know, the War Powers Act and 50 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: the ticking clock of sixty days, you know, you need 51 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: Congressional action. They need to do this. They need to 52 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: do an authorization to use the military force. They need 53 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: a declaration of war. Otherwise, after sixty days, with maybe 54 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: a thirty day extension, you have to end the military actions. 55 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: You know, someone who served Adam, I guess I wonder 56 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: I don't personally. Here's my view of what's going to 57 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: happen this week Thursday. There's going to be a vote 58 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: and it probably won't pass. If it does pass by 59 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: more than fifty percent, then of course Donald Trump has 60 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: a veto, right, There's no way they got the votes 61 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: to override the veto, which means status quo. The clock 62 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: remains ticking and the sixty day win will soon be closing, 63 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: resulting in the withdrawal of the American troops. Whether or 64 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: not it's the right time to do it, I mean, 65 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: is that you're understanding, Adam, And where do we go 66 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: from there if that happens. 67 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think anybody is expecting President Trump to 68 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: sign a war powers resolution if it were to pass, 69 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 2: but you know, to make to make it crystal clear, 70 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: the President has every right to take action when there 71 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 2: is a clear and imminent threat. But you know, we've 72 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: had a long period of build up on this front, 73 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: and both the President and Congress, you know, we believe 74 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: that they've missed some opportunities to speak candidly with the 75 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: American people about is what is actually going on in 76 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: the region and the risks that are involved. And as 77 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: you as you said, I'm a post nine eleven global 78 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: war on terrorism. Better in myself served two deployments to 79 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: the region, and you know, during my time, you know 80 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: that we would consider the operational record freedom and endless war. 81 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: There wasn't clear congressional oversight, and there was a lack 82 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: of clear party in duration, and you know, a lack 83 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: of a clear end state. So, you know, with our 84 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: men and women on the ground, we definitely think that 85 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: there needs to be a clear mission, a clear end 86 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: state communicated to the American people. 87 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: So in when you were serving in combat and in 88 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: your time in the service, were these types you mentioned 89 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 1: the lack of clarity while you were dealing with that, 90 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: Is that something that was regularly discussed among the frontline troops, 91 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,679 Speaker 1: you know, one of your friends who were also serving 92 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: at the time. 93 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: Most definitely, because because the mission and our operations had 94 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: changed on so many different fronts throughout the Middle East. 95 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: Whether you know, I was deployed to to southern Lebanon, 96 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: I was deployed to to to the Horn of Africa, 97 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: I was deployed to western Iraq. So so there was 98 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: a lot of questions around, you know, what what our 99 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: deployments actually looked like, but also the impact of those 100 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: deployments on our nation service members. I mean, the last 101 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 2: time I was on your show, well we had talked 102 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 2: at length about veterans healthcare and the issues of you know, 103 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,559 Speaker 2: two decades of sustained combat has on veterans mental health 104 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: and just their overall healthcare. So there's a lot of 105 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: variables that play here when we get engaged in these 106 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: very serious conflicts. 107 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: You know, I'm actually so pleased that you brought that up, 108 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: because it was festering in the back of my mind. 109 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: I have a good friend who's a career submariner, and 110 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: I call him Cribbage. Mike's a great guy, and he 111 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: mentioned that that tension that those men and women serving 112 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: on the Navy, serving in the Navy or anyplace else 113 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: in combat sustained, you know, basically twenty four to seven attention, worry, 114 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: and concern some missile might come out of nowhere and 115 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: blow the boat up or blow the sub up, or 116 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 1: you know, a bomb might get dropped in your camp 117 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: where you're serving in one of the various bases over there. 118 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: You experienced that, I that is I guess, isn't that 119 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: the source and genesis of what we call post traumatic stress? 120 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: Living under that constant adrenaline and worry and fear, and 121 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: then once your return home from service, you can't turn 122 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: that off. 123 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 2: Sure, America's war fighters, you know, they're they're they're they're 124 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: trained well and and they're up to the challenge. But 125 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: you know, some of these experiences that that we face overseas, 126 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 2: they do have, you know, physical and mental impacts, and 127 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: we have to weigh those types of variables when when 128 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 2: we when we go and start conflicts like this. I mean, obviously, 129 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: if if we look at you know, what the the 130 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: Iranian regime is doing now, I mean they're targeting civilians. 131 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: You know, our partners in the region like UAE, they're clearly, 132 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: clearly not prepared for this conflict. And you know there's 133 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: from the latest numbers the State Department that says that 134 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: there's you know, around a million Americans that are that 135 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 2: are in the region with tens of thousands that are 136 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 2: trying to get out. So it's not just really a 137 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: military perspective, it is a civilian perspective and how the 138 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 2: Iranian regime is targeting civilians at will. 139 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: Well, I would put you on this on the spot here, 140 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: Adam Miller from Concerned Veterans for America, Ohio, where do 141 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: you see this going? I mean, you know what, what 142 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: what does Obviously Adam Miller wants a success in the region, 143 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: perhaps a building the we all can pray for that, 144 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: But where do you see this specific conflict going given 145 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: the war powers you know, vote perhaps it's happening this 146 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: week and the the disagreement among members of Congress whether 147 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: or not Donald Trump should even be there. We have 148 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: that whole Trump rangent syndrome. We got a factor into 149 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,679 Speaker 1: the equation because I think a lot of Democrats would 150 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: feel otherwise if it wasn't Donald Trump running the country. 151 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: But where do you see it going, Adam. 152 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: Well, there's still a lot of unknowns, and you know, 153 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: I would kind of go back to, you know, as 154 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: we talk about this debate, is you know President Obama, 155 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: you know he had you know, authorized operations in Libya 156 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: for for seven months yep, and operations in Syria without 157 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: congressional approval. So there is a little bit of a 158 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: history here. But I would say, you know, I don't 159 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody is crying over you know, the 160 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: regime or at least some of the heads of the 161 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 2: regime being you know, dismantled at this point. But again, 162 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: there's still a lot of information coming out and kind 163 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: of putting all the pieces together, and we and we 164 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 2: really don't have a lot of clarity yet. But I 165 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 2: guess my message to your listeners and to every one 166 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: here is, you know, there's there's a lot of issues 167 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: here in the United States and we've seen what what 168 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: happens when when these conflicts you know, happen with you know, 169 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: just looking at Opak and look at some of the 170 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: some of the oil prices, and that's again another example 171 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 2: of why we need to unleash American energy here at all. 172 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: You know, there there is an affordability crisis that many 173 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: Americans are facing, and you know, being less reliant on 174 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 2: regions like the Middle East from from an energy perspective, 175 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: I think is important and probably is top of mind 176 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 2: for a lot of Americans who are struggling financially. 177 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: Without question, that's why Donald Trump's all the above strategy 178 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: with regard to energy may save us from well the 179 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: the global warming alarmist religion that's out there that basically 180 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: was a masculating the United States ability to be independent 181 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: and have sufficient energy. Excellent point, Adam Miller, Adam Miller 182 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: from Concerned Veterans from America before we park copany Adam, 183 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: anything else you want to interject here before we separate 184 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: this morning. 185 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say, you know, so we've seen a 186 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: lot of kind of tactical wins on this front, and 187 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 2: I would say, you know, while while those are important, 188 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: they don't automatically translate into a clear strategy for the 189 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: American people. So we do depend on our representatives in 190 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 2: Congress to provide that clarity or to to make the 191 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 2: case to the American people of why, you know, our 192 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: treasure and our resources and our US troops should should 193 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: be deployed onto these forward areas. So it's a continuing conversation. 194 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: You know, we have over forty thousand US troops in 195 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: the region, and we need to make sure sure that 196 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 2: there that their safety and security is first and foremost. 197 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: And obviously we continue praying for those. 198 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: That we have lost absolutely start to finish. I won't 199 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: stop that. I will continue my prayers for them. And also, 200 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: let's face it, the casualties of war quite often involve 201 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: a bunch of innocent civilians and we all can pray 202 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: for them as well and hope they stay out of 203 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: harm's way.