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Speaker 1: three o'clock, Greenwich Mean Time. Welcome back to the afternoon Ardvark,

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Speaker 1: the Bumper to Bumper program on a ball me Friday

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Speaker 1: afternoon here in the Twin Cities of Minneapolis and Saint

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Speaker 1: Paul Guards. He produces the program, and I am the

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Speaker 1: host of the show. My name is Dan Barrero, former

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Speaker 1: Instein Retch newspaper of the Twin Cities. And just remember

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Speaker 1: Magic Johnson was my guy before he was your guy.

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Speaker 1: We're delighted here along for today's bumpy, right. I say

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Speaker 1: bumpy because it's it's virtually a talker Tuesday on a Friday.

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Speaker 1: No picks with gerby Man, No Ben gesling Man. He's

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Speaker 1: busy finding I think he's trying to find a good

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Speaker 1: often discussed yesterdays, people who are involved in distance events

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Speaker 1: but a lot of people, including some the Nordic skiers

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Speaker 1: Lavelle is our only scheduled guest right now. He is

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Speaker 1: set for five point thirty tonight. We will keep one

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Speaker 1: the women's hockey team play right now. That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: don't know Hermantown. Well, I hope you make that work

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Speaker 1: societal reasoning. Gen Z officially the first generation to be

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Speaker 1: This is the first time that everybody would be vindicated

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Speaker 1: a Winter Olympian or in the Winter Olympics, I should say,

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Speaker 1: and as I said, he's one of us. Do you

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Speaker 1: want to guess the sport? Well, actually I already told

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Speaker 1: you this Via Enough said this is curling. Right, you're

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Speaker 1: paying attention curling. His name is rich and I'm probably

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Speaker 1: going to mispronounce it ruo Honan. It's r u o

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Speaker 1: h o n e n and he becomes he was

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00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: an alternate, right, but he had briefly an opportunity to

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00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: participate in a actually a US loss in the event,

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Speaker 1: or in a curling event. But he has indeed participated.

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Speaker 1: And this isn't like, what are you doing fifty four?

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Speaker 1: You know what are you trying to be gimmicky here?

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00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: He's actually been. He's a two time US champion. He

436
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: competed in two World Championships in two thousand and eight

437
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 1: and eighteen, though he had never made an Olympics before

438
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: this year, served as a mentor to this team full

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Speaker 1: of twenty somethings. Is the way they put it in

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00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: a Wall Street Journal story as it made its rise

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Speaker 1: in the American curling ranks. It beat the team skipped

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Speaker 1: by John Schuster. Of course, another one of US guys,

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00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: the longtime face of US curling, who competed in five

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Speaker 1: consecutive Olympics from six to twenty twenty two. We were

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Speaker 1: not doing him a favor by putting him in. He

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Speaker 1: deserves it. So here's my question to the audience at large,

447
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: Because of course we love the local angle, we love achievement.

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00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: Is your average cranky anti Winter Olympics person like you,

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00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to have difficulty acknowledging this historic feat because

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Speaker 1: it comes in this sport, in the sport of curling,

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Speaker 1: not the downhill, not the loge, not the skill Elton,

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00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,959
Speaker 1: not ice hockey, et cetera, et cetera. No, I respect curling,

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Speaker 1: and even though I've never done it, people that have

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Speaker 1: tried it because of John Schuster and his team that

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00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: won the gold what eight twelve years ago? Whenever it was.

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Speaker 1: They've told me how hard it is and how difficult

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Speaker 1: it is, so I respect it. I will not look

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00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: down upon it like you are trying to get me to.

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Speaker 1: I think the name is pronounced Ruining. I'm told Ruining. Okay,

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00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: Ruining is his last name. And now, fortunately or unfortunately

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Speaker 1: for him, depending on how you want to look at it,

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00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: he has taken a stand on Metro the ice operation.

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Speaker 1: What was it, Metro Surge. Yeah, he has taken a

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00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: public position on that, ripping it. So my guess is

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Speaker 1: he becomes then one of those athletes that you either

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Speaker 1: love or you despise, when ordinarily you might not have

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Speaker 1: given him much thought other than all that's interesting. He

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Speaker 1: made history, you know what I'm saying. I do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So that's where we're at. There, tensions flaring, by the way,

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Speaker 1: between the US and Italy. What tempers flaring? I should say,

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Speaker 1: we're up, so you can't fight in Olympic hockey or

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Speaker 1: you get you get thrown out. And I'm trying. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I should text Parker to try to

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Speaker 1: figure out what's going on or russo. So, so what's

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Speaker 1: the score. We're up six to zero second dominating now Okay,

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Speaker 1: Taylor Heisey, I think finds Abby Murphy right at the

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Speaker 1: right on the doorsteps. Yes, for a beautiful, beautiful goal

478
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Speaker 1: the Italian defenseman. I think the US thought kind of

479
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: took a shot. I think it was at Murphy whoever scored,

480
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: because that Heisi was in her grill. A couple other

481
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: Americans were in the grill. They started like pushing and

482
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Speaker 1: fighting and shoving. Coaches were yelling at each other, back

483
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Speaker 1: and forth on the benches. It was some drama there

484
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: for a minute. And again I had the sound down

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00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: because I was listening to you. Is it settling down now?

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00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: Now it's intermission, so they it's all passed. But it

487
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: got a little tense there for a minute. Coaches were

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Speaker 1: screaming at each other. It was crazy. Well, nothing wrong

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00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: with that, right, That always makes it more into the Olympics. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: who are he destroying? Did you say? Italy? Yeah? Not

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00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: very good, as you said. I'm trying to figure out

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Speaker 1: if we overreacted, if the Americans overreacted to the whole situation,

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Speaker 1: Oh to what took place. That's kind of what it

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00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: looked like to me. I think they took why we bother,

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00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: Like you said, exactly. It's like, what are we doing?

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00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: We got bigger aspirations than this, don't we You should?

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Speaker 1: By the way, Ruin and Rich Ruinin is from Brooklyn Park, Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I established in Pokland Park. He is,

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Speaker 1: I said, Minnesota, Brooklyn Park. He's a well think of

500
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: it this way. It's like I mentioned him earlier in

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Speaker 1: the show. It's like having Mike Bryant participate in the

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Speaker 1: Winter Olympics. He's a fifty four year old personal injury lawyer.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. It's amazing, isn't it? And to boot he

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Speaker 1: is the sixth time winner of Minnesota Attorney of the Year. Really,

505
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,479
Speaker 1: and that's that's quite a resume. But I'm gonna guess

506
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Speaker 1: he's going to put this experience at the top ahead

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Speaker 1: of the sixth time Minnesota Attorney of the Year banners,

508
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: don't you think Unless he'll use this, he'll say something like,

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Speaker 1: unless I'm representing you, and then it's the most important

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Speaker 1: thing I've ever done. That is what he'll say in

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00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: his commercials. That's probably true. Good for him. His quote,

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Speaker 1: I would rather have done it when we were up

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00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: eight two instead of down a two. But I really

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00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: appreciate the guys giving me a chance. So there, there

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00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: you have it. He's kind of like he's the elder statesman.

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00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: He's he's kind of they look at him as kind

517
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: of like uncle guy. You know. I love that, which

518
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: is kind of cool as well. So mentor he does

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00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: make some history there. Bratch On Brian Kfein. Text line

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00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: is open at six four six eight six. Did I

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Speaker 1: have another Olympic item that I wanted to? Uh, we

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00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: got to the sound if you're doing Olympic Yeah, you're right.

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00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: Well so your gun play. It should have asked you earlier.

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00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: So US women's hockey now men's hockey. Their second game

525
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: is tomorrow. I believe we double check that. I think

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Speaker 1: it's Saturday. I'm not mistaken. And there was another what

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Speaker 1: do you feel? What's the what do they call the

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Speaker 1: two person loge event? Is there a name for it?

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Speaker 1: I thought that was the skeleton No, I thought skeleton

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Speaker 1: was the single. Okay, I thought the bob sled was four.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that right? Yeah? You might be right. Actually yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought someone can correct us. Bob sled that was

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Speaker 1: the herschel Walker event, right? Yeah? Those are the days, man,

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00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: Those are the salad days, that's for sure. I don't

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Speaker 1: think the Bob sled. I don't remember seeing any Bob

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Speaker 1: sled yet, but we'll keep an eye on that if

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Speaker 1: indeed that is the case. We played Denmark tomorrow at

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Speaker 1: two ten the amazing yep and who won? Did Finland

539
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 1: beat Sweden? I don't know. I'll look up the double

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00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: check that I think was that or I thought that

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00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: was earlier today, or maybe it was last I saw

542
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: I saw part of it, or I thought I saw a headline.

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00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: I think Finland dominated, if I'm not mistaken. That's on

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00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: the men's side. I'm asking. Skeleton is where you go

545
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: face first on your stomach. I'm told, okay, which sounds dangerous?

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00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: It does, isn't it? It does? It sounds like water slides.

547
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: I mean it's like you're doing a water slide a

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00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: great old flat sea. I hope I didn't offend the

549
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 1: skeleton community. There. Am I gonna hear from the skeleton County.

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00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: You have a badgering, badger guy. I'm a thirty one

551
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: year old beer league goalie and also an attorney. I'm

552
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: impressed with my ability to get off the ice some days.

553
00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: So he finds himself very impressed that a fifty four

554
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Speaker 1: year old personal injury lawyer has made history on behalf

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Speaker 1: of the United States of America Finland. It looks like

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00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: dominate Sweden four to one one. Okay, that's what I thought.

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00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: I saw the Vakia beat Italy three to two. Yeah,

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00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: Chechia six, France three. In Canada and Switzerland are in progress. No,

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00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: they're in progress right now. Sure, should be right. I'll

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00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: take you. Yeah, I'll take you at your word. All right,

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00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: we don't have a sounder. I don't think for this

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00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: and this is Twins related. My guess is you're going

563
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: to fall for this or that you already are. But

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00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: I'll just read it and then is it the happy Hour? Yeah?

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00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: Oh I'm in No, I'm not actually, but go ahead.

566
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: Well here this was a national tweet from a ball

567
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: guy who I've I've retweeted before. I think is on

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00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: either the MLB network or one of them. I don't

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00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: have the name in front of me, and he's laying

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00:35:54,920 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: out Twins. Press releases indicating two dollars pregame beers Friday

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00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 1: and Saturday's Friday pregame happy are for drinks and food

572
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: free ice cream for kids on Sunday, and his response is,

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00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: this is honestly awesome stuff from the Twins. More and

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00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: more teams are doing stuff like this, and on one level,

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00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: I get it. I guess, I just I just does

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00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 1: that guy know what's going on here? I know he doesn't.

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00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: It's my guess is he might because he's he's plugged in,

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00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: but maybe he doesn't pay spend that much time on him.

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00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 1: It's like, wouldn't. Here's what I would argue, the Twins,

580
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: perhaps as much as any team in baseball, more than most,

581
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: have no choice but to take these kinds of steps.

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00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: It's not innovative, it's a necessity given the condition they

583
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: are in, given their their their their public relations nightmare

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00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: that they now face, given that we keep they keep

585
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: moving the payroll down another thirty million dollars or whatever

586
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: it is now, I would say, I mean, it's so

587
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: to me, it's patronizing to pat them on the back,

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00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: or it's giving them too much credit. They're doing what

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00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: they are obligated to do. They have no they literally

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00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: have no choice but to do this if they're going

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00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: to operate in the short run. So even if it's

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Speaker 1: considered innovative in a larger sense when you're talking about

593
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball teams and trying to make things, trying

594
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 1: to be more affordable and make your sport more approachable

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00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: in that regard. In this case, I just I just

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00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: shake my head and say, do you know what's going

597
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,479
Speaker 1: on here? I mean, yeah, they're they're this. I would

598
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: argue that this is the least they can do, And

599
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: I don't want it to be enough for people to

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00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: start celebrating what's happened, like, are we we can Are

601
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: we gonna get bought off that easily on the basis

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00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: of oh, yeah, that two dollars for this, three dollars

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00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: for that, or beer, whatever the case may be. I

604
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,959
Speaker 1: just it worries me when I see and they're getting

605
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: a lot of plaudits across the country, and they're getting

606
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: the plaus in the larger sense that well, in general,

607
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: prices are always going up, right, teams seem to not

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00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: have any they've seen to be tone deaf about all

609
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 1: of that. But I think you got to look at

610
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: the the specific conditions here, and for me, then it's

611
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: a lot less laudatory than a lot less laudable than

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00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: it would be. You know, like if the Dodgers didn't

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00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: for example, And I have no idea for sure kinds

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00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: of deals that the Dodgers might have. Yeah, a lot

615
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: of teams have like the family friendly areas or sections

616
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: like the Suns have done that. I know the Twins

617
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: actually did that a lot a couple of years ago

618
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: as well. Where you've got kind of the ballpark staples

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Speaker 1: that aren't going to be the crazy twenty four dollars nachos,

620
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 1: you know by celebrity chef David Fema. You're right, Can

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00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: you separate? Can you? Because I always separate it a

622
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: little bit? Well, first of all, you're you're right that

623
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Speaker 1: this is what they have to do. This is what

624
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 1: the Wolves had to do eight nine, ten. But you've

625
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: just gotten them in trouble now because people got used

626
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: to it. That's always that's the trade off. That's the

627
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: risk that you run. But in the interim, you need

628
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: to get people there. You need to make it value.

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00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,479
Speaker 1: And I'm guessing a lot of these perks are going

630
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: I don't think any new people are going to go, hey,

631
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: let's head down to Target Field for a happy hour

632
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Speaker 1: before the game on a Friday. I think this is

633
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: to reward people that are buying their tickets more than

634
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: like trying to get new people, you know what I mean?

635
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: I absolutely agree with that. So I just don't want

636
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: I don't want to commemory to print for this, that's all, No,

637
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: because this is what they need to do. This is

638
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: this is the minimum that they need to do. I

639
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: also separate ownership from the people that have to work

640
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: for them, and actually I probably do like working for

641
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: them and go all right, Bob, we got to come

642
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: up with some good ideas here. We got to do something. Yeah,

643
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: like it's different, you know what I mean. The people

644
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: that came up with the idea is that, hey, we

645
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: got we gotta do this. Problems has something to do,

646
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: Like they deserve the credit, the ownership, you know, you

647
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: can keep where they are twins are clueless. Would much

648
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: rather play pay full price for my ice cream in

649
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: a helmet if it meant watching a professional operation. Well

650
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: that's not an option right now. Well I know, but

651
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: he's saying, yeah, I know, he's he's trying to speak

652
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: to that why this shouldn't be lauded like some kind

653
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: of you know, uh dramatically wonderful measure uh by by

654
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: a team acknowledging that we've priced people out of things,

655
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: because we might have, but I think even the average

656
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: group might well be willing to pay a little bit

657
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: more for that concession piece if he feels like he's

658
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: getting some return on the investment overall of making the

659
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: effort to go to the ballpark. Now, baseball is different,

660
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: and that you can always say I'm not going for

661
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: the team, I'm going because it's a nice summer day

662
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: or night and it's an outing for us. You know,

663
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: That's that's always been the case. No one is going

664
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: to go to watch the Twins pay forty dollars to

665
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 1: park and have one dollar beers even local bars, better

666
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: company and still cheaper. That's from Papa Taco. Well, that

667
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,959
Speaker 1: it's the trade off exactly. I don't know what park

668
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: is parking. I assume parking is probably still pretty expensive

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00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: for a Twins game. Twins, I would imagine like Vikings,

670
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: no for Wolve's games. They've it's gone up though over

671
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: the last time has gone on. I think it's either

672
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: twenty or twenty five now. In the in the ABC rams,

673
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: which a lot of people at Target Field use for

674
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: obvious reasons, they're right there. I don't know what they

675
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: are for twins games. Skelton his head first one rider

676
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: LUSA has a single and a double okay, and it

677
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: is feet first. There's a two and four person bob slid.

678
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: That's that's badgering, but badger guy back again. By the way,

679
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: I think quad God's up now, okay? And is that him? Yeah?

680
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: And as as I said, he he was in a

681
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: driver's seat after the short program. By the way, this

682
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: is a situation. Didn't he give himself the nickname? I

683
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: think really he gave himself the nickname. How do we

684
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: feel about that? Oh? I don't like that as a

685
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: general rule, love it, but I would at least say, well,

686
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: he's already accomplished a decent amount. I think double check it.

687
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: I think I think he named himself the quad Gun.

688
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: He also there's flips he does that are unprecedented, but

689
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: you don't get points for it. You don't get deducted

690
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: for it. But my understanding is there's no other than

691
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: the aesthetic value of you know, I can do it,

692
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: I want to do it, I'm gonna do it. I

693
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: don't think it actually adds to your point total. Is

694
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: the way it's been explained to me. And if you're

695
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: the French judger is you are deducted. You you're deducted

696
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: several points for doing it, is what I've what I've

697
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: been told. Yeah, he changed his own Instagram handle squad God.

698
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 1: What's his real name? Uh Ilia malanin right, Yeah, exactly,

699
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,919
Speaker 1: So he changed his because he's young. I mean, he's

700
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: very young, isn't he. Yeah, yeah, like I remember, he

701
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: looks like he's about twelve. Yeah, he's young. I remember

702
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: comment talking about when baby brother Peter, when when Pete

703
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: named himself swagtag kids do dumb things. So he must

704
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: have done that a while ago, a couple of years ago. Well,

705
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: people love the rhyme so much. It's great that they

706
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: use it. You know. They don't. They don't, they're not.

707
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: They don't even seem bothered by uh oh, he just fell,

708
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: quad God just fell. Is that going to be enough?

709
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: Probably not. I think his degree of difficulty is very high. Yeah,

710
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: And as I said, he had a huge lead I

711
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: believe going into uh you know what I noticed by

712
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: the way I'm looking up into the crowd, they were

713
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: showing highlights of who did they in nineteen eighty? The

714
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: miracle team? Who did they tie? They got a late goal.

715
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: They a much needed tie, is that Sweden and as

716
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: a goal within I think the last fifteen seconds of

717
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: the game that ended in a tie, which they needed.

718
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: What's interesting about it is I saw several shots of

719
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: the crowd and the upper deck was almost empty. Now, again,

720
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: that wasn't the gold medal game. I understand all that,

721
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: but it is a reminder that at the time, I

722
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: don't think it was viewed as I got to get

723
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: a seat to that. I got it plastic, Yeah, I

724
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: gotta go. In our mind's eye, we think that must

725
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: have been impossible to get a ticket to that. Maybe

726
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: by the end of it that's true. It was, but

727
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: it wasn't true earlier because at that point no one

728
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: had any idea what they were cabled. They've been they'd

729
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: gotten murdered by the Kammis. It's exactly right. It was

730
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: it ten to one, whatever it was, it was ridiculous,

731
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: and so there were seats everywhere. It looked like it

732
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,919
Speaker 1: was an exhibition game based on the number of people

733
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: I saw on the second deck of the of in

734
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: Lake Plaster. Your eyes did not deceive you. In fact,

735
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: it was discussed in the new Netflix documentary Al Michaels

736
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: talks about that bit about it. He said, we're in

737
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: this arena. There's nobody there. There's no buzz, there's no vibe.

738
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: I think players talked about being able to hear conversations

739
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: that were going on in the crowd during warmups. You're

740
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: one hundred percent right. It did not. The nineteen eighty

741
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: team did not capture the imaginations of everybody until they did. No,

742
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 1: until they did until they ended up doing it. Quad

743
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: God looks devastated. Man, have you are you looking at him? No,

744
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: I've got practically in tears. Oh, yeah, he is. He

745
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: looks well. I wonder if he cost himself something. I

746
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: don't know. We'll see it's it's it's difficult to say.

747
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: We'll get the judging here quick. I don't even think

748
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: we can break right now. I think we got to.

749
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: We've got to find out where he is in the

750
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,479
Speaker 1: scorecard or is this just his way? He's so good

751
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: and has such high expectations. It could be that too,

752
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: that he's showing off a little bit. But he's competing

753
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 1: against himself more than an exactly it. Yeah, he's continuing

754
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: to shake his head as if he just had the

755
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 1: worst performance of his career. He's being consoled, I'm assuming

756
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 1: by his coach. Now he's putting on his US Olympic

757
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: warm up jacket. Oh yeah, another hug, Another hug. Have

758
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: you noticed, by the way, how they're I don't know

759
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: how long they've done this on figure skating, how they're

760
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: kind of live tallying the scores. Have you noticed that?

761
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: I have noticed that. Yeah, I think that's pretty cool. Like, yeah,

762
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: it probably is because you kind of know what there

763
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: used to be. And I don't know how accurate they are,

764
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: but people are basically giving the score as they go,

765
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: as they do different things. I'd asked you to text

766
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: Christine Brennan, who was in Italy and has covered the

767
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: figure skating stuff forever, and yeah, probably is exactly right.

768
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: And one of the things I wanted to talk to

769
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: her about was that she actually alluded to in a

770
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: CNN interview she did earlier today. The question was, is

771
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: I thought maybe judging has changed once about a time,

772
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: I thought, like the lowest score and the top scores

773
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: get thrown out in order to have to sort of

774
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: get away from the possibility that one judge could dominate

775
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: too much. And I'm trying to understand. If that's the case,

776
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't the French judges score have been eliminated anyway? But

777
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I judging like I once did back

778
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: in the days when I was actually covering Winter Olympics

779
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: figure skating and enjoying pretty much every minute of it.

780
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: So we might even have some figure skating experts in

781
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: our bratchew on Brian kfan text line who can help

782
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: us in that regard. Hopefully eventually we do get to

783
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: talk to to Chris Brennan. Perhaps if we gave the

784
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: French judges two dollars Fulton Beers and free camps ice

785
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: cream fly enjoy the American Prona of the performances more

786
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: not bad, always coaches his father. Yeah, quad god, Yeah,

787
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: he looks like he knows he's done. But did I

788
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 1: not see a five point lead going into the free skate.

789
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: I'll have to take your word for that. But again,

790
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: let's see we're looking at it right now, we're waiting

791
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: for the judges. A fall is a pretty big deal. Yeah,

792
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: I guess it is. I thought maybe if you're the

793
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: rest of what you did was dramatic enough that you

794
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: could kind of it would compensate for that but you're right,

795
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: he's not even Did I see the scores? I thought

796
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: I saw it, Let me see it again. Now they're

797
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: just showing his face. Can they get any closer to

798
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: his face right now? Poor guy? Wow, it's not for

799
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 1: the fame of heart. He's out of there. Yeah, Chris

800
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: Brennan is in that building because her last tweet was

801
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: about Quad Squad faking doing a backflip as he walks

802
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: out for the Olympic long program. That was about an

803
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: hour ago. Yeah, let's see the scores. I thought they

804
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: had him up once. And if he's being sold looks

805
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: like by another skater. Perhaps he's got the USA, the

806
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: snazzy US A warm up dylon. He's now leaving the

807
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,240
Speaker 1: the area where you wait to get your judge's scores.

808
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 1: But they're not putting the scores up on the screen anymore.

809
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: They had it up there so briefly. Now they're following him,

810
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: but they're following them all all the way to the

811
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: locker room. Let him go pee, for cry out loud,

812
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: what's the deal he's still going. They're literally going to

813
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: follow him as far as they can. They're taking him. Yeah,

814
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think broadcast mixed. I think it's

815
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,919
Speaker 1: over there, right, Yeah, I think it's over I don't

816
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: even think he made the metal stand, That's what I mean. Yeah,

817
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: so he that he must have gotten it. Must not.

818
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: I gotta believe it's just more than the fall. It

819
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: must not have been the Quad God at his his

820
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: very best, because, as you say, he's there, there's a

821
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: lot of celebrating going on among severn other skaters. Now

822
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: they're doing a lot. We can't go live to the

823
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: NBC interview, can't we? No, he fell twice, Oh there

824
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: were Yeah, and he finished in eighth place. Eighth place.

825
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: People are calling him the quad dud. They're calling him

826
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 1: the fraud Wait wait to the New York Post headlines,

827
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: fraud God is tough. Yeah, that is tough. And as

828
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: I said, I read going into the uh the free skate,

829
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: the long form program, whatever you want to call it

830
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:30,479
Speaker 1: these days, he was up five, but it wasn't apparently enough,

831
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: and I think the long programs are much bigger. That's

832
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: uh the Olympics man. Yeah, he he clearly knew it.

833
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't need to wait for the judges

834
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: to know that it was probably over all. Right, let's

835
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: do top of the Hour of Break, eighth place for

836
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: the quad. God man, man, let's pause. As I said,

837
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 1: we've got we're wide open because Ben Guessing is off today.

838
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: I've got some a section done as material to get

839
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,959
Speaker 1: to got some more Olympics stuff. We got a lot

840
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: of NBA stuff to discuss as well, and then we'll

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Speaker 1: get Lavelle scheduled for five thirty, this very evening, five

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Speaker 1: thirty right here on the fan.