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Speaker 1: a three year deal for forty five million dollars, and

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you can't work with Pete Carroll, that's

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Speaker 3: It makes you want to about Mark Davis as an owner,

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Speaker 3: and and Tom Brady, well, and Tom Brady, I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know what Mark Davis has done with this franchise.

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Speaker 3: It's been consistently terrible.

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Speaker 3: I think at this point, if i'm Mark Davis as

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Speaker 3: much as you don't want to relinquish control. You got

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Speaker 3: to know that it's not working. And you've got Tom

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Speaker 3: aren't many players I would give that kind of responsibility to,

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Speaker 3: had concent instantly good quarterbacking sense Derek Carr if that

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Speaker 2: So that's dead.

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Speaker 4: I have something on the Raiders, but I want to

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Speaker 4: hit on Geno for a second. I was reading he

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Speaker 4: And so you know when you think about franchises in

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Speaker 4: you know we're not Geno. We're happy for you, but

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Speaker 4: forty million dollars a year, We're gonna flip you for

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Speaker 4: a pick. A year later, they have Sam Darnold, like

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Speaker 4: John Schneider. I hope he's getting Covenant claps in Seattle

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Speaker 4: for the decision that he made, right.

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Speaker 2: Gotta be. I mean, they were all the dice on Sam.

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Speaker 3: now now they're the number one seed. Sam has become

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so that front office, Trent Kirchner, John Schneider,

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Speaker 3: He hit out that, I mean they yeah, they hammered

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Speaker 3: That would worry me a bit. It should. It almost

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Speaker 3: never works. Dan Marino was brought in as a consultant

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Speaker 2: It rarely works. Sometimes it does.

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Speaker 4: That's a good example of a guy that did everything

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Speaker 3: Here is why Brady will be different and better than

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Speaker 4: Well, he did get you know, speaking of investments, didn't

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel, the now fired head coach of the San

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Speaker 1: He's widely considered one of the best run game coordinators

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Speaker 3: I don't think Viking fans want that. I don't I

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Speaker 3: This is the Vikings are set offensively with Kevin O'Connell.

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Speaker 4: You know, part of my you know, and McDaniel absolutely

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Speaker 2: That name Frank Ragnow.

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Speaker 3: Look, Taylor Decker is going to retire, really and Elephantine

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Speaker 1: That's the voice of Paul Charchi here for a marathon

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Friday Football Feast on KFA.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, do you have big opinions for the

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Speaker 1: I mean the common threat has been it seems to

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Speaker 4: I just don't look at one of those situations one

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Speaker 4: don't see that in the AFC. An easy one would say, well,

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Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, so the Bills would be

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Speaker 4: the one team that replicates what you're talking about with

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Speaker 1: See if I were playing this game. I don't know

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Speaker 2: It's forty four and a half right now, it's that

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Speaker 1: things to happen for the Bears to get it to overtime.

437
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Speaker 1: So I don't know, I kind of like green Bay

438
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Speaker 1: in this game. What about you, guys?

439
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Speaker 2: I like green Bay as well.

440
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Speaker 4: Now, I think this game with the sneat and with

441
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Speaker 4: the wind, I'd bet over. Would you put you'd bet

442
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Speaker 4: over on the point?

443
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Speaker 1: And I'm the worst total prognosticator ever?

444
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Speaker 2: Why I am?

445
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Speaker 4: So I'm curious you're talking about kind of game flow

446
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 4: of their games. They had two hundred and fifty five

447
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 4: yards combined rushing in their first one. They had two hundred,

448
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 4: three hundred and forty two yards rushing in their second matchup.

449
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Speaker 2: Geez, I mean where that plays into the under?

450
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Speaker 4: Would we put a rushing total of two ninety nine

451
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Speaker 4: and a half and just call it?

452
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Speaker 2: Just call good?

453
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 4: Or two seventy five is somewhere, whether it's Manungai and

454
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Speaker 4: swift it's Jacobs.

455
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Speaker 2: Of course, to belcow.

456
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Speaker 1: Depends on the wind because the the need both teams

457
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: are having significant problems rushing the quarterback. And when the

458
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: game turned the second game, the one at Soldier Field,

459
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams got over the top of this Packer secondary

460
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: with deep shot after deep shot after deep shot.

461
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Speaker 2: And I and you know, before.

462
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Speaker 1: Before I looked at this weather report here, I kind

463
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Speaker 1: of thought that was a harbinger maybe a little bit

464
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Speaker 1: into this game, because I do believe the Bears can

465
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Speaker 1: get over the top on the Packers defense with the

466
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Speaker 1: passing game. But I also think arrested Packers team has

467
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Speaker 1: an opportunity to unfurl some things in the passing game

468
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Speaker 1: that maybe haven't been seen in the first two games. However,

469
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Speaker 1: from a weather standpoint, that may that may inhibit the

470
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Speaker 1: passing activities in this game. But nevertheless, Yeah, it's it's

471
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Speaker 1: kind of a fifty to fifty game.

472
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Speaker 3: Here, monumental game for Jordan Love. I mean, you know,

473
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Speaker 3: he's so far into his career. These are absolutely the

474
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Speaker 3: kinds of games you are paid to go win on

475
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Speaker 3: the road in the division against by the way, a

476
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 3: secondary that has been bad this year. If Love doesn't

477
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Speaker 3: step up here, Yep, it's there's going to be a

478
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Speaker 3: long offseason of questions around Green Bay, and especially with

479
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 3: Malik Willis looking fantastic and he's going to go, He's

480
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 3: going to go get paid by somebody as a starter.

481
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 3: It's there's going to be a ton of questions about

482
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Speaker 3: Jordan Love and whether or not he really is the

483
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Speaker 3: franchise quarterback they've paid him to be. These are big

484
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Speaker 3: moments for him and why I believe you're both wrong

485
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Speaker 3: on the outcome of this game.

486
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Speaker 2: You think the Bears got it.

487
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 3: Bears are going to run the ball so effectively They've

488
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 3: got in a phenomenal run blocking well great offensive line period.

489
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Speaker 3: There were number one in pass block win rate, number

490
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Speaker 3: six in run block win rate.

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Speaker 2: If the conditions are.

492
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Speaker 3: As bad as you're describing, this is gonna be DeAndre Swift,

493
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Speaker 3: Kyle mcnunguy doing these stretch read runs that they are

494
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Speaker 3: so good at. As Ben Johnson has basically got his

495
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Speaker 3: Chicago version of what he had with the Lions in

496
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 3: a poor man's version of Jamier, Gibbs and Montgomery. Now

497
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Speaker 3: with mnung guy and Swift, and it's gonna take those conditions,

498
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 3: he is going to power run the ball. He's gonna

499
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Speaker 3: find Colston Lovelin in the middle of the field, Luther

500
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Speaker 3: Burden streaking down the field. It's and he's got Roma

501
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Speaker 3: Dunes back for the first time in a month. I think,

502
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Speaker 3: Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 2: What's playoff fantasy lineup? Look like I just.

504
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 3: Described it in Paine's taking detail. Chicago is going to

505
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Speaker 3: win this game on the ground.

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Speaker 1: Anybody like Green Bay, Chicago, the Rams or Carolina to

507
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Speaker 1: get to the Super Bowl? The Rams, Yeah, I do not.

508
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Speaker 1: You're you are you picking Seattle to get to the

509
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I'm I'm I like the Rams out of

510
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Speaker 1: the NFC. Okay, yeah, I'm I do too. Rams are

511
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Speaker 1: Seattle one of those two. But it's I'm having trouble

512
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Speaker 1: because I've when we get to Philadelphia that we can

513
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Speaker 1: do them.

514
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Speaker 2: Now. Niners at Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia favored by five and a half, open to three

516
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: and a half, went up to five and a half.

517
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Speaker 1: The left tackle for the forty nine ers very very

518
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: very very much in question in this game. If he

519
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Speaker 1: doesn't play, I mean, holy cow, that changes the whole thing.

520
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: But but Philadelphia arrested everybody in its final game and

521
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 1: acted like a team that we're good.

522
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Speaker 2: Everybody stopped worrying about us. We're fine.

523
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Speaker 1: We're going to get a game at home and to

524
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Speaker 1: start things, and we know what this whole thing and

525
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Speaker 1: all the pressure associated with it's like, as.

526
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Speaker 2: Do the Rams, a lot of these rams. But we're fine.

527
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Speaker 1: So I like, I like Philadelphia to beat the forty

528
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Speaker 1: nine ers by six points or more.

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Speaker 4: What about you, guys, I'm I'm on, I'm on Philadelphia. Well, now,

530
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 4: Philadelphia in terms of their ability to push button and go,

531
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 4: that's just too problematic this year. But I do like

532
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 4: them for one game and Lincoln Financial. Everybody's fresh, everybody

533
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 4: has that renewed team goal moving forward. Hey we are

534
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 4: the defending champs. Hey we are hosting the Niners this way.

535
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Speaker 4: I think they'll be up for this game. I do

536
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 4: like them winning this thing. But again, just the weird

537
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 4: thing about Jalen Hurts and his offense and a new

538
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 4: coordinator every year, and we spend so much time talking

539
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 4: about how they get the best out of him, and

540
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 4: we saw it, I mean, as good as it gets.

541
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Speaker 4: I think in that game that they played a US

542
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Speaker 4: Bank stadium, but the lack of Saquon's explosion over the

543
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 4: course of entire games. That has to change and a

544
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 4: problem in this season. But how does it change.

545
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Speaker 2: Throwing the two him more?

546
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Speaker 1: And I don't know why they didn't as much this

547
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: year as they did last year. And his numbers were

548
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: precipitously down, no doubt about it. But so were several

549
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: of the Eagles numbers offensive cross the board and defensively.

550
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Speaker 1: So there's there's probably something more to this that would

551
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Speaker 1: prohibit you know, me and or others from taking them

552
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Speaker 1: to get to the Super Bowl.

553
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Speaker 4: Are they dealing with similar olne issues? Maybe different personnel

554
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 4: as the Lions are, Well, they're right tackle Lane Johnson,

555
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 4: and I'm not sure if he's playing this weekend, but

556
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 4: he's missed. He's missed a fair amount of time. But

557
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 4: replacing McKai Beckton now Makai Becton not hof But what

558
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 4: he did when he moved inside to resurrect his career

559
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 4: as part of the two thousand yard campaign.

560
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Speaker 2: Very much could be part of it.

561
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Speaker 4: He was an earth mover, and I just maybe maybe

562
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Speaker 4: they're having some of those issues which would lend to

563
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Speaker 4: the idea, Yeah, let's get Saquan out there, throw him

564
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Speaker 4: the ball and find find some space himself.

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Speaker 1: It's it's too touchy feely or too it's too conspira

566
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Speaker 1: conspiratorial to think, did you guys really hold up on

567
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: the Saquon passing game?

568
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Speaker 2: The entire season is seven up for the postseason.

569
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Speaker 1: But if Saquon starts catching five to eight a game,

570
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, if nobody can run on

571
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Speaker 1: Carter or David and Cooper de Jean's jumping routes, quen

572
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: Yon Mitchell is locking somebody down and Zach Bawn is

573
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: stealing the show against the run and against the pass,

574
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Speaker 1: who's going to be surprised?

575
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Speaker 2: I'm not so I you know, I h.

576
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Speaker 1: If Philadelphia gets to the super Bowl, you know, I

577
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,479
Speaker 1: know I'm probably in the minority here with people listening.

578
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't either.

579
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Speaker 3: They just have to flip the switch and be a

580
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 3: better team, especially offensively than they have been all year.

581
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Speaker 3: The other running back for I spent a lot of

582
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Speaker 3: time on Saquon Barkley. The other running back, Christian McCaffrey,

583
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 3: averaging three point nine yards per carry this year. His

584
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 3: receiving has been elite as always, but the running hasn't

585
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 3: been the same, and Jordan Davis is having the best

586
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Speaker 3: year of his career. The Elephantine interior lineman for the

587
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 3: Eagles has been phenomenal, that's right. And I think when

588
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey can't run now Rock Party has to come

589
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 3: up with the biggest game of his life, right, and

590
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Speaker 3: I don't know that he can do that against Cooper

591
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Speaker 3: dejen and Quinnyon Mitchell and a Vic Fangio defense.

592
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Speaker 2: I at the end of the day, I just and

593
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Speaker 2: I like Party.

594
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Speaker 3: I think Perty's dramatically underappreciated quarterback overall, but I feel

595
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 3: like this is a really hard spot and Party will

596
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 3: have to play almost perfectly to make up for a

597
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Speaker 3: ground game.

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Speaker 2: That's not going to get going. Now.

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Speaker 1: Buffalo's at Jacksonville and Buffalo's favored by one and a half.

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Speaker 1: I did not put a lot of time into the

601
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars this year, not on the Viking schedule.

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Speaker 2: I just kind of followed them from afar.

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Speaker 1: What Trevor Lawrence has done on the last month and

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Speaker 1: a half, I mean, nineteen touchdowns against one interception is

605
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Speaker 1: what he's generating. I had no idea how good their

606
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Speaker 1: defense was and this tight end Brenton Strange. You know,

607
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: I followed him from Afar. But Brian Thomas the deep threat,

608
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: and and ettn has become a legitimate running back again

609
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Speaker 1: where they can count on him. They have a one

610
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Speaker 1: to two punch there. But with Trevor Lawrence, I have

611
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Speaker 1: no idea what clicked with him middle of the season on.

612
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Speaker 1: But I mean, he's og right now. He is He's

613
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Speaker 1: got to be the hottest quarterback in the National Football

614
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Speaker 1: League right now. Yes, so after putting some time into

615
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Speaker 1: this game yesterday and absolutely not trusting Buffalo's run defense.

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Speaker 1: I mean, even as far as I can throw either

617
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Speaker 1: one of you, if I were in the seven oh two,

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Speaker 1: my largest wager would be on Jacksonville plus one and

619
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Speaker 1: a half.

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Speaker 3: What about you, guys, Trevor Lawrence, you mentioned hottest quarterback

621
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Speaker 3: in the NFL last six games, those nineteen touchdowns, Paul

622
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 3: in six games. Liam Cohen should was sick, not eight

623
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Speaker 3: now last six games, nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Touchdowns, Trevor Lawrence.

625
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Speaker 3: What Liam Cohen has done should absolutely have it in

626
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 3: the conversation for Coach of the Year along with Mike Rabels.

627
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 3: Should be there, McDonald should be there. Cohen as well,

628
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Speaker 3: I mean Trevor Lawrence. Nobody thought Trevor Lawrence had it

629
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Speaker 3: in him to make the Jaguars. What are they a

630
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Speaker 3: two seed? I think in the FC, I think they're

631
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Speaker 3: the two seed for Raree Seed. Nobody talking about that. Yeah,

632
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 3: And everybody going into the season thought Trevor Lawrence was

633
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: a middling at best NFL passer.

634
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Speaker 2: And all Liam Cohen did.

635
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 3: Was do the same thing for Trevor Lawrence that he

636
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 3: had done for Baker Mayfield before that and turned this

637
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 3: kid into a reliable, explosive player. Jacksonville got a huge

638
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 3: boost a few weeks ago when they went to Denver

639
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 3: and smoked Denver. And I think that's when you start

640
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: to believe in this team. And on the Bills side,

641
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 3: you just say do they have do they have enough

642
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 3: receiving weapons? James Cooks has been great, he led the

643
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 3: NFL in rushing yards, But can you win with Tyrrell

644
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 3: Shavers and Josh Palmer and Khalil Shakir And yeah, I

645
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 3: like Khalilik, but they're starting game Davis.

646
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Speaker 2: You know, I it feels it's weird to say this.

647
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 3: It feels like just the better team, better roster is

648
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 3: the Jacksonville Jaguars, and if if that's if you're taking

649
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: brand equity off the table and you just looked at

650
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 3: how these teams have played this.

651
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Speaker 1: Year, the Jaguars have been the better team. When I

652
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: look at things, it's like, Okay, what's going to surprise me? If,

653
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Speaker 1: like if Buffalo jumps up and wins this game handling

654
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: Buffalo's favorite, Buffalo's favorite on the road. So I mean

655
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Speaker 1: I respect that Josh Allen best in show, completely respect him.

656
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 2: Likewise for James.

657
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: Cook, I just when when I got into the defense

658
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills in certain situations against certain teams

659
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: who play the way Jacksonville plays, they have balanced to them.

660
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: And Jacksonville Cohen is running a power running, vertical passing game.

661
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: I mean they're throwing over the top all the time

662
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: and not necessarily complete them all, but they have things

663
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: designed where you have to pay attention to this deep

664
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: passing game that that's helped at ten exponentially this year.

665
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: Likewise for that tight end strange, So like, hey, if

666
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: Josh Allen scores four touchdowns, how surprised am I going

667
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: to be? He's unbelievably good. Right outside of that, I

668
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: just like you said, I think the better roster is

669
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: with the Jaguars.

670
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,919
Speaker 3: One last thing on this game. Jaguars have the best

671
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 3: run defense in the NFL. They allowed the fewest rushing yard.

672
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 2: I had no idea about it.

673
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 3: So you take if James Cook is sitting on a

674
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Speaker 3: forty five yard game, and he might be, Now, Josh

675
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 3: Allen has to go get that four touchdown game. He's

676
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,959
Speaker 3: got to be a superhero with the receivers he's got.

677
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Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know that that's going to

678
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 3: happen here. I would take the Jaguars and take the points. Yeah,

679
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 3: that's the That's why I would.

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Speaker 4: I would absolutely this is a zero percent chance I

681
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 4: would even bet on this game. Because if Allen's foot

682
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 4: is going to allow him to run again, which has

683
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 4: been a huge mid gator for him over the last

684
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 4: few games, Wow, that can be a game changer where

685
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 4: Josh Allen absolutely can just go and run for a

686
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 4: forty yard touchdown. Yeah, and he's he's and he's shown

687
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 4: that on multiple occasions.

688
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: And I see what Vegas is doing here with this line,

689
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 1: because go ahead and make Josh Allen an underdog, right,

690
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: I mean you're gonna make because Vegas is not in

691
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 1: the predicting business.

692
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: That's in the balancing the ledger business.

693
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: Right to collect the ten percent big so Ian Nordo

694
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 1: bets a million charge bets a million.

695
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: There's one hundred thousand.

696
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: Dollars on each side that that goes to the house.

697
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: So go ahead and make Josh Allen an underdog. I

698
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: mean you'll you'll have odd wagering there, you know.

699
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, their ability to shut down James cook is probably

700
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 4: the story of this game, in combination with the who

701
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 4: that they have cooking out there at at wide receiver.

702
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 4: Keon Coleman has been really nothing short of a disaster

703
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 4: for them.

704
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 2: And Marvin Harrison Junior the same human.

705
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, just where are they and where is and he's

706
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 4: getting healthy scratched because he can't get his head screwed

707
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 4: on straight and practices and off the field and such

708
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 4: and uh and Khalil Shakir cool bit player. So how

709
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 4: do they stretch it? They're stretching it with the Thayer

710
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 4: bits and these guys. I just but I could never

711
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 4: bet on this game because Alan can just go to

712
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 4: Jacksonville and say, no, big deal, guys, my foot's fine,

713
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna run it. Fifteen times and best of luck

714
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 4: to you. But you see him get dragged down on

715
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 4: in road games, whether it's specifically you look at that

716
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 4: Texans game, another AFC South game. Texas defense on another

717
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 4: level than everybody basically this year. But when Alan has it,

718
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 4: when when Alan doesn't have it, he doesn't have it

719
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Speaker 4: in a massive way this season?

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Speaker 2: Right? And uh?

721
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 4: And if if Lawrence can do what he's been doing

722
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 4: with that TN and and just that receiving corps, what

723
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 4: is his name, Ji Cory Myers coming in just that?

724
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: I mean, so Kobe Jacoby Myers. Excuse me? Oh yeah,

725
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,479
Speaker 2: Myers too. He's good in that mix, right.

726
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean and yeah, and no one's talking about

727
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 4: him like Jamar Chase. But their ability to make those

728
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 4: guys as productive as they have been in Rise Above,

729
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 4: Brian Thomas's kind of decension productivity wise, has really been

730
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 4: nothing short remarkable. So I couldn't bet on it. But

731
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 4: but Jagg's great opportunity for them to beat Josh Allen

732
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Speaker 4: and the Bills at home on Sunday, I will be.

733
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Speaker 2: Betting on it. I will be in Las Vegas.

734
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 3: I will be betting on the Jaguars, and I will

735
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 3: be having no fun because rooting against against Josh Allen

736
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 3: is a the black hole of fun and I'm gonna

737
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 3: be sitting there like, oh, just.

738
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 2: Sweating that whole game, having no fun.

739
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, buff Buffalo has this, Parker Washington, I mean Jacksonville

740
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: does right, Yeah? This this downfield fast thing. Ye put hippy, Yeah,

741
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: put him in the mix too, Holy cavu. And finally

742
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 1: on this one is I love these situations. Trevor Lawrence

743
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: acid tested for class.

744
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: Here. Look what you've done the last month and a half.

745
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 2: You're bally hoot.

746
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: Everybody in the league's talking about you from from from

747
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: Cape Coral to the cornfields of Minnesota. And now it's

748
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: a pressure moment. You're at home crowd against Josh Allen.

749
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 1: That's a fantastic scenario. Chargers at New England Patriots favored

750
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Speaker 1: by three and a half. Is the two seed Patriots

751
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: favored by three and a half at home as the

752
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: two seed?

753
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 2: What y'all think about that they're gonna kill him?

754
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 3: I understand the consensus thinking is that New England's soft

755
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 3: schedule invalidates their wins, and I just don't see it

756
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 3: that way. You know, you play the schedule, you were

757
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 3: given and they're absolutely smoking these other teams. Last two games,

758
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 3: they've scored ninety points and they've given up twenty. This

759
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 3: just this team, the Patriots are completely legit, and they

760
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 3: get massively important. This was the NFL's best run defense

761
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 3: for most of the season until early December. They had

762
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 3: a couple of key injuries, including their defensive tackle Milton Williams.

763
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Speaker 3: He comes back for the Patriots and they go right

764
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 3: back to being an elite run defense. And now you

765
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 3: can't get Omar and Hampton going, Kamani v Dell going.

766
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 3: Now you're putting Justin Herbert behind the league's worst pass

767
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 3: blocking line, missing both left tackles. Joe aalt Is out.

768
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 3: That was a big qui Joe Slater out. I mean

769
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Speaker 3: those are It's incredible. It's just Herbert is sitting on

770
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 3: a long, painful day. They're not going to be able

771
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Speaker 3: to run, and the Patriots are going to crush in

772
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,959
Speaker 3: this game. But con I don't really have anything to add.

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Speaker 4: I think Herbert spent mediocre to bad in his two

774
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 4: playoff appearances, and last year just getting absolutely hammered on.

775
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 4: He threw three or four picks. I think it was

776
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 4: against the Texans Herbert having to rise to this moment

777
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 4: in this spot.

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Speaker 2: I don't see it. I don't see it happening at all.

779
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 4: And as I mentioned earlier, I think it's either the

780
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 4: Broncos or the Patriots in the Super Bowl, and step

781
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 4: one for them is truly just dropping the hammer on

782
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Speaker 4: the Chargers this week. I think it'll be lopsided. They're

783
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 4: running game. By the way, it's gone berserk New England. Yeah,

784
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 4: it's a nice one too. Oh man, Stevenson bangs on

785
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 4: you and bangs on you and then.

786
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: Henderson runs around you. You got it?

787
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 4: Well, Henderson straight up, he's kind of just like home

788
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 4: run or five.

789
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Speaker 2: Yep. He really is just right, I mean right now.

790
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: And he's got a lot of room to grow.

791
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 4: But the way that they've and they stuck with Stevenson

792
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 4: through his fumbling issues earlier in the season and he

793
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 4: got nicked up a little bit.

794
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 2: Henderson goes off now.

795
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Speaker 4: I think Stevenson comes back from injury, he's got a

796
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 4: three touchdown game something like that.

797
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: Like, that's a sweet little tandem they hand.

798
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Speaker 3: They combined for five touchdowns last week, their two running

799
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 3: backs did. And I love that they unders in the

800
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Speaker 3: in the receiving game.

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00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: They line them up out.

802
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 3: Why does the receiver five six times a game? I

803
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 3: love how they use their runners into England.

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Speaker 1: Houston at Pittsburgh Monday, that's the final with super wild

805
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Speaker 1: Guard weekend. The Steelers are catching three points at home.

806
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf returns for the Steelers. Houston with that nice defense.

807
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: CJ.

808
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: Strouds represented himself pretty nicely these days. Houston at Pittsburgh

809
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: to finish wild Card weekend. Nordo, you go first here, brother, Yeah.

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00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 4: I I think that the Texans win this game. This

811
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 4: could be among maybe the lower scoring games of the weekend.

812
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 4: And DK is going to be back. I know all

813
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 4: of that. This one is just what you're bringing up

814
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 4: there to to Pittsburgh. With this Texans defense, I think

815
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 4: he's going to be the toughest and probably the most

816
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 4: grinding performance that Rogers is going to have to endure.

817
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 4: The totality of this season. I have the I have

818
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 4: the Texans. What what did you say that I got

819
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 4: to find the spread against three three? That that'll be Uh,

820
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 4: that'll be them them covering that three and winning that game?

821
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 2: What about you charge?

822
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: I also believe Houston will win. They should not be underdogs.

823
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 3: The Steelers just played their playoff game last week. Houston's favorite, Uh,

824
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 3: Houston by a field, Thank you all right? I didn't

825
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 3: I had it the wrong way.

826
00:41:58,920 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I believe Houston will win. Steel has just played their

828
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 3: playoff game in that win against Baltimore. I think they

829
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 3: might be down a little bit after that game that

830
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 3: went down to the wire. And just Houston's got the

831
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 3: best defense in the league. You know where they you

832
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 3: can beat Houston as that offensive line is Raddy. You

833
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 3: can get to and they get to Stroud. But he's

834
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 3: got all his receivers healthy. Ed Ingram though, he's got

835
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 3: all his.

836
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Speaker 1: Receiving Ingram as the starter, by the way, is forty

837
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Speaker 1: and seventeen. He's been part of teams that are forty

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Speaker 1: eight and seventeen nineteen nineteen. It's a compensation that he

839
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: probably is right there. Everybody tells me he's terrible, but

840
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: everybody keeps using him and winning games.

841
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: Houston has beaten Patrick Mahomes, They've beaten Sam Darnold, Trevor Lawrence,

842
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 3: justin Herbert Josh Allen. I mean, you know, I just

843
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 3: don't think. I don't think Aaron Rodgers is best playing well.

844
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 3: Is not so good that Houston. This Houston, awesome Houston

845
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 3: defense is going to have many struggles.

846
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: Super Bowl teams.

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00:42:54,160 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 4: Boys, As of now, I would have Rams, It's Rams

848
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 4: and either Patriots or Broncos.

849
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Rams, Broncos. I'm gonna go Rams. Jags. Oh,

850
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: I like that, Seahawks and Patriots.

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00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: Since Alex, since Church and I are leaving now you'll

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00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 1: be with Nordo for the final hour. Super Bowl team,

853
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: So what do you like and why?

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00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: Seattle and Jacksonville.

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00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: Seattle and Jacksonville right on gives you an order something

856
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: to chat about along with all these stories that you've

857
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: had of late and Brian Flores related information that Alex

858
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 1: has been all over and on top of charge. Great

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00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: seeing your brother. It's so good to be back here.

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00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: Microphone's open for you anytime you want it. Awesome Nordo.

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Speaker 1: See you next week.

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00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I have a great weekend.

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Speaker 1: Men, Alex, Lewis and Donardo take you through the next

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Speaker 1: hour on KFAM.