1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: And like them or not, the number one seed this 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: year in the AFC is the Denver Broncos. Knicks takes 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: a snap, they shake hands with a bunch of Charger 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: players because, as I said, you never know, two weeks 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: from today, the same two teams might be doing battle 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: in the same venue. Final score from a power field 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: at Male High, Denver, nineteen, Los Angeles three. 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: That's right, It is a victory Monday here as the 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 2: Broncos have secured the one seed in the AFC. 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 3: They are on by this. 11 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: Week and we will wait to see who the Broncos 12 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: are going to play coming up in two weeks. Welcome 13 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: to the show, Dave Logan, Ryan evers Day, Ferguson in studio, Dave, 14 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 2: good to see what. 15 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 4: Happy new year, my friend. 16 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 2: Good to see you guys too. Yeah, want a win? 17 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: What what a season? Fourteen wins? I mean, before we 18 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: kind of dive into it, just for a second, macro 19 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: view fourteen wins. Dave, My goodness, is that a Yes, 20 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: that's a needy period. 21 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 4: That's a period. 22 00:00:58,320 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 3: I didn't know if you were I mean, I really 23 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: didn't know you're gonna pall it for all right? 24 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: No, I think this, I think I mean, honestly, I 25 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: think Bronco fans, as I roll over my head said, 26 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: I think Broncos fans ought to push back a little bit, 27 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: even those that you know have and I understand it 28 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: in terms of you know, looking stuff and saying, well, 29 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: they're not good enough in this area. 30 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 3: Why are they doing this? 31 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: How come the offense hasn't shown more signs on a 32 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: consistent bat. I get all of that, and and some 33 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: of that I think is valid. I do, but I 34 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: think ultimately, before these playoffs start, you got to push back. 35 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: And as you said, say, okay, this team is fourteen 36 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: and three, and I think they have just started to 37 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: scratch the surface of who they can be in the 38 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: next two or three years, because the nucleus of this 39 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: team is young, and some of your key spots are 40 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: are manned by really good players who, even by NFL standards, 41 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: are young. So I think the Broncos are going to 42 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: get even better now. To me, this is the even 43 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: though the Broncos have two home games if they win 44 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: the first. This is a difficult road in the AFC 45 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: because I think all seven teams legitimately in their locker 46 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: rooms can sit and have a head coach, stand up 47 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: and present a scenario and a realistic one that says, Fellas, 48 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: here's how we're going to get to Santa Clara and 49 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: play in the Super Bowl. 50 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: I think it's that bunched up. 51 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: I like Denver's chances because they're playing at home, but 52 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: I think the road is going to be a tough one. 53 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: I have the best odds in the AFC via most 54 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: sporting books. 55 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 4: What's going on? Nick Ferguss, c you what to do? 56 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 5: Ryan Evers, Dave Logan, you know what, Fellas? I look 57 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 5: at this as a macro micro situation. Macro looking at it, Hey, 58 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 5: they are the record is what they are. They've won 59 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 5: fourteen games, they have the number one seed, and they're 60 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 5: hosting throughout the playoffs. 61 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 3: And all they have to do is win two games. 62 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 5: Now, the micro part of it that there's certain subtle 63 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 5: things about this team that they definitely need to correct 64 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 5: on this little short by to make sure that they're 65 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 5: able to win these games, these two games moving forward, 66 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 5: not knowing who their opponents are. Now, if they don't 67 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 5: correct some of these micro situations, then we're going to 68 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 5: have a macro problem. 69 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: How about that. I think you're right. I think I 70 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: would look at a little bit differently. I think all 71 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: seven teams you could make you could make a case 72 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: for any of them in the path they. 73 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 3: Have to take to get to Santa Clara. 74 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: I think all seven of those teams have warts, and 75 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: the Broncos are one of those seven. 76 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 3: I mean, all. 77 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: Seven of them are really good football teams that have 78 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: two or three issues that if their respective coaching staffs 79 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: don't figure out how to limit some of the problems 80 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: within those issues, then they're staying in the playoffs. They're 81 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: going to be pretty short, right, and we've got three 82 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: hours to break down really everything. You know, people talking about, 83 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: well Houston Houston's going to go to Pittsburgh and beat 84 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: the Steelers. Maybe maybe I think I think I would 85 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: lean that way. 86 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 4: But that was a hell of a game last night. 87 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 3: But Houston, Houston has some problems on offense. 88 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely, they got some problems on that side of the ball. 89 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: As good as their defense is and their defense is 90 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: really good, that that's not again they're without Wartz. The Chargers, 91 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: I think, are really good on defense and have a 92 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: great quarterback with their offensive line, big problems there. 93 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 3: Both tackles out for the year. 94 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: Can you keep Herbert upright and protect him long enough 95 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: to win three road playoff games, because that's what all 96 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: of these teams except New England and Jacksonville would have 97 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: to do. 98 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: Right on the text line here, Kawi common spirital text line, 99 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: thank you guys for clarifying that we got the number 100 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: one seed in home field advantage. If you read anything 101 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: by Denver media today, it sounds like we should just 102 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: forfeit the rest of the season. Fourteen wins aren't a fluke. Hey, Broncos, 103 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: shut them up. 104 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 3: It's good. 105 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 5: I don't think anyone is suggesting that where the team 106 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 5: is right now is a fluke. What I think would 107 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 5: be a wrong evaluation or assessment of this team. Like 108 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 5: Dave said, there's not a single team in this tournament 109 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 5: that doesn't have flaws. Is can you overcome those flaws? 110 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 5: And how often does these flaws often turn up? 111 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 3: And I was there at the stadium, and Dave, you 112 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 3: call the game. 113 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 5: There were moments at the game where the Broncos had 114 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 5: stall drives and they kicked field goals. The fans in 115 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 5: the seats, they were a little frustrated because there's booze 116 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 5: that came out and I haven't heard a lot of 117 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 5: booze this season, right, So there's a lot of fans 118 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 5: that are frustrated because it's just like, okay, well we 119 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 5: still know that you can go out and you can 120 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 5: execute no matter who the opponent is, inferior, inferior. 121 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 3: But that wasn't the case. 122 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 5: And they've seen several games starting with Jacksonville twenty points, 123 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 5: achieved some Thursday Night twenty points, nineteen points on Sunday, 124 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 5: no touchdowns. So understand this is why they're saying what 125 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 5: they're saying. That's why I gave the macro micro assessment. 126 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,679 Speaker 3: You're you're not giving your defense credit or the touchdown. 127 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 3: Oh we didn't get to them yet. Yeah. Yeah, we 128 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: just talked about a Knicks point. 129 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: The Broncos did not have a rushing touchdown nor a 130 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: passing touchdown in franchise history, which dates back the nineteen 131 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: sixty What do you think the record is how many 132 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: games in which the offense of the Broncos did not 133 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: score a rushing touchdown nor a passing touchdown? 134 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: My goodness, I would think that now nineteen sixty Yeah. 135 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: A lot of games. How many years is that? Like 136 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 3: sixty six? 137 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's that's well over a thousand games. 138 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: You probably a losing record, but I probably think you'd 139 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: get one thirty wins or something like that. 140 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 4: You probably get a lot of wins. 141 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: There's some bad weather games that you know, you convert 142 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: five field. 143 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 4: Goals that ends up being enough. I don't know what's 144 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 4: what's the record of that, the record. 145 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: In franchise history not scoring a rushing touchdown or a 146 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: pass pasting touchdown on offense. The Broncos, including yesterday's game, 147 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: have had seventy two of games like that and they 148 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: are now twelve and sixty. Oh wow, wow, So what 149 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: you witnessed yesterday in terms of the Broncos winning the 150 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: game without scoring a rushing touchdown or passing touchdown, the 151 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: Broncos have only been able to, including yesterday, win a 152 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: game like that twelve times ever. 153 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: And yet it didn't feel for a moment to me 154 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 2: like they weren't going to win that game. 155 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely, it was never in doubt, which I would submit. 156 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: I don't know this to be factual, but my gut 157 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: tells me. You know, as a play caller in the NFL, 158 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 1: and you've you've you've set up how you want to 159 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: attack an opponent. But as a head coach. You're looking 160 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: to see. Also, you're you're looking to see the flow 161 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: of the game. Okay, how's their offense working against my defense? 162 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: Right and after about the second series, I think Sean 163 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: looked and said, they have no there's no threat here. 164 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 3: They're not going to score. 165 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: So therefore does it alter how you attack from an 166 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: offensive standpoint? I believe it absolutely does, and I think 167 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: it did yesterday. 168 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 5: Okay, I can see your point. As though Ryan pointed 169 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 5: this out and there were several fans who were looking 170 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 5: at it. 171 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 3: In the same way. I have a different way. 172 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 5: Of looking at it because I went back and I 173 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 5: watched the game, and I watched plays, and you can 174 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 5: determine and I know Sean said it after the game 175 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 5: he looked across kind of like triggeredly speaking to see 176 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 5: what they were doing on the defensive side of the ball. Yeah, 177 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 5: a lot of that dictated because you look at Trey 178 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 5: Lance and say, well, he can't really score a lot 179 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 5: of points, so we can just kind. 180 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 3: Of float this thing. 181 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 5: And I go back and look this morning, there were 182 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 5: certain plays that the Broncos ran or attempted to run, 183 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 5: but they were stifled by jesse Mentor in the defense. 184 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 5: So I know the idea was that, well, the play 185 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 5: calling was vanilla offensively, and I say, well, to say that, 186 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 5: what not to give those players, those who played and 187 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 5: Jesse Menzer credit for their level of execution, right, So 188 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 5: give them. My thing is giving them credit because whatever. 189 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 3: The Broncos toss out there, they stopped it. The Broncos 190 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: couldn't really move the ball. 191 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 5: As far as running the ball outside of that first 192 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 5: drive when they moved down and I was like, yeah, 193 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 5: I was excited to see that, but I fell off 194 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 5: after that. 195 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you give Jesse Minner and the Chargers 196 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: defense credit, but they've done that all year long, right, 197 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: And Ryan, you and I talked in the pregame about, 198 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: you know, the idea that the Chargers quote aren't playing anybody. 199 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: You can't do that in the NFL. They set I 200 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: think six two three. I think they set six starters, 201 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: which means they played sixteen starters. This team has been 202 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: really good on defense the entire year. Absolutely Ever, one 203 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: time thought yesterday's game before the game was going to 204 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: be the Broncos going up and down the field and 205 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: final score from Empower Field of male high number forty 206 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: one Los Angeles thirteen. I never one time, because nobody 207 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: has done it. I mean, they played Houston last week 208 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. First two drives, Houston had two big, explosive, 209 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: explosive plays where they got behind the secondary of the 210 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: rams and I'm thinking of the rams of the Chargers 211 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, holy cow, I mean, this never happens. 212 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 3: You know what. 213 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: That was the end of the Houston offense for the 214 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: entire game. So the defense the Broncos played yesterday minus Derwin, 215 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: James Khalil Mack and minus. 216 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 3: Two to two, yep, probably screwed his name up. 217 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: But he's he's he's been a very good player, very 218 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: good player minus those three guys. 219 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 3: That defense. 220 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: I've got news for anybody thinking New England's going to 221 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: boat race the Chargers. Now, they may get after that 222 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: offensive line of the Chargers and they may make it 223 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: miserable on Herbert. And Herbert has shown the proclivity to 224 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 1: turn the ball over in the playoffs. If he does that, 225 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: then the Patriots can get out and win big. But 226 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: I don't see anything but a tight, competitive game because 227 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: of how much respect I give the Chargers defense. 228 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 5: But because of that, that's why for me, the whole 229 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 5: narrative that the Broncos went with someone of vanella offense 230 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 5: and know one as though you were still facing sixteen stars. 231 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 5: For everyone else can kind of see it the way 232 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 5: they see it, Well, I don't see it that way, 233 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 5: because why would you run a vanilla offense against that 234 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 5: defense knowing they're going to play the way they did because. 235 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 3: You're gonna see him in two weeks. Maybe even with. 236 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 5: That being said, well, one, you don't know that, but 237 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 5: I can see how the mentality can be there for that. 238 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 3: I know that if they beat the Patriots automatically they 239 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 3: come back. 240 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 5: Here, okay, then my thing is you run your planes, 241 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 5: you do what you do right, and you. 242 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 3: Do what you do well. 243 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 5: Because going back and looking at some of the plays 244 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 5: that the Broncos ran, they were not a lot of 245 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 5: vanilla plays, right. 246 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 3: You had They ran a play where when. 247 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 5: The Broncos inside the ridzone, they ran the empty formation 248 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 5: three by one and they tried to use Troy Franklin 249 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 5: and Evan Ingram to free up pat Brian coming from 250 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 5: left to right. 251 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 3: It was it was great defensive stock both didn't make 252 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 3: the make the throw. 253 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 5: So for me, I'm like, well that wasn't one of 254 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 5: those play calls where it was, well, you know what, 255 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 5: that was a vanilla play called. 256 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 3: The Broncos have used that play before. 257 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: But to say it's a vanilla I don't know that 258 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: I'd say it's a vanilla attack. But I think there 259 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: were plenty of things that Sean and I think it 260 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: happened after the game that started where he said I'm 261 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: not going to get to you. I mean when I 262 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: when I say it's an attack that didn't really have 263 00:13:54,640 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: much rhythm to it or intention. I look at if 264 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: I'm trying to come up with ways to attack the Chargers, 265 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: the guys that I want to throw the ball to, 266 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: primarily first and foremost would be Courtland, would be Franklin 267 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: to a certain extent, would be the backs out of 268 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: the backfield. How many targets did Courtland have? How many 269 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: targets did Franklin have? Well, one catch? 270 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, he had targets, two. 271 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: Targets, how many How many targets did Franklin have one? 272 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: So he had one target? How many targets did Ingram have? 273 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: Ingram had a toll of four and three catches. Okay, 274 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: so I just think this, if the Chargers beat the 275 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: Patriots and come back here, I think, and again it's 276 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: not when you play them, it's going to be a 277 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: low scoring game, and it just is what it is, 278 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: and you're not going to have a lot of gash plays. 279 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: The play that the Ravens ran last night against the Steelers, 280 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: Flowers to Day Flowers, that's the same play that the 281 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: Broncos ran in Los Angeles against the Chargers. Where they 282 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: lined up, they quickly broke the huddle, they sprinted the 283 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, they lined up quads to the right, 284 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: they faked the toss into the short. 285 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 3: Side of the field right. 286 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: One of those guys is ineligible because I believe you 287 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: had four guys over there, and it was Courtland if 288 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: you remember, it might be the longest I'm thinking would 289 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: be the long still the longest scoring play pass of 290 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: the year. 291 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 3: If not, it's one of them. 292 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: And Courtland was all by himself late in the second quarter. 293 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: That's the same play the Ravens used. So but you 294 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: have to have stuff like that to beat the Chargers defense. 295 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 4: I think I think both of you actually are making 296 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 4: great points. 297 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 2: And one of the things we were talking about a 298 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 2: lot like on Broncos React last night, is how you 299 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 2: can have that approach vanilla or whatever you want to 300 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: call it, and then ultimately execute better. 301 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 4: Like you could still have. You could have and should 302 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 4: have had both of those things. 303 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 2: And it felt like based on what they saw, it 304 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 2: was an interesting answer from Bow yesterday kind of along 305 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: those lines, and we had talked about it coming up 306 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 2: to the game, saying, well, you don't exactly know who 307 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: you're gonna be facing out there with offense or defense. 308 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: You knew that the Trey Lance was gonna play, you 309 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 2: knew Omrion Hampton was out, and that's about it. 310 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 4: Jamari sawier that that's it. 311 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: So there was a moment where Bo's yelling at the 312 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: sideline and Dave you actually pointed it out because he 313 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 2: got sacked and he got up and started screaming at 314 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: the sideline, and so he was asked about that and 315 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: then that he gave kind of some insight. 316 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,119 Speaker 4: Onto maybe why the offense had some of their struggles. 317 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 6: Well, I should have done a better job today, having 318 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 6: more urgency in the huddle, getting this, you know, going, 319 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 6: and you know, I felt like I failed us on that, 320 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 6: and you know, overall, I thought, you know, we didn't 321 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 6: play with the tempo and and the passion we normally 322 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 6: play with. 323 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 3: Now, there's a lot that goes into that. 324 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 4: Tweek eighteen, the last game of the year. 325 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 6: You know, you're getting kind of tending nothing weird early, 326 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 6: and it's it's just a strange football game. You know, 327 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 6: you prepare for one thing all week and then get 328 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 6: something different. 329 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 3: You don't know who's gonna show up. 330 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 6: So you know, I got to do next time we 331 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 6: get in that spot. I got to have better urgency, 332 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 6: you know, be a little bit of a spark myself, 333 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 6: and then yeah, the guys, the rest of the guys 334 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 6: would do the same. 335 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, So he talked about having better urgency, but he said, 336 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: you know, you're preparing one way all week, then you 337 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: get out there, you're seeing something different out there. And 338 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 2: I sort of wondered in that moment, if the Broncos 339 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: had to prepare for the Chargers straight up, would they 340 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 2: have played a different kind of game? 341 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Well, you mean you hope. 342 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 2: So, yeah, they played better in week but was a 343 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 2: week two three when they faced them, like it was 344 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: a better performance overall from the team. 345 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 4: They were more consistent. 346 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, wire if you go back and look at that. 347 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm trying to remember, you know, some of 348 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: the exact moments there. They they moved the ball, they 349 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: had the big play to Courtland, they had the big 350 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: play starting the second half on the catch and run 351 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: by JK. Dobbins down the sideline, But really after that, 352 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how how much success they had. My 353 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: point would be, when you play the Chargers, you play 354 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: Jesse Minner. 355 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 3: He wants to keep everything in front. He's not He's not. 356 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: A coach that historically is giving up a lot of 357 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: He doesn't. 358 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 3: He doesn't. He's not a high risk, high reward guy. 359 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,959 Speaker 1: You may get some pressures and certain downs, but there 360 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: are a lot of zone pressures. 361 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 3: So you're gonna have to execute. You're gonna have to. 362 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: Be precise with your calls and accurate with the throws, 363 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to live with sort of if 364 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: you're going to score, it's going to take you ten 365 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: or twelve plays, and they they're banking on you making 366 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: a mistake or them creating a turnover before you. 367 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 2: Can got our first wet blanket. Ferguson Text of the day, 368 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: Not from me, Not from me. 369 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: I saw you texting on the keyboard right there always. 370 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 3: I'll tell you I don't care. 371 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 2: Well, it's one of many. I'm sure We're off and early. 372 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 2: Here on a victory Monday victory for most of us. 373 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 2: We will wat chat with Ian Rockport. Coming up next, 374 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 2: we're gonna head out to the kawe Comment Spirit Health 375 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,479 Speaker 2: high Line and bring on Ian Rappaport, our NFL Network 376 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: insider powered by Chevron. Chevron the human energy company committed 377 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 2: to our local communities and safely delivering affordable, reliable, ever 378 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: cleaner energy. 379 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 4: Ian, good to have you on as always. Good afternoon. 380 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 3: How are you what's going on? 381 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 7: How are you guys? 382 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 3: We're doing We're doing well. Let me jump right in 383 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 3: and look at the AFC. 384 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: The Broncos obviously have the number one seed in a 385 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: bye but of the games that will take place this weekend, 386 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: including Monday Night, which game do you find most interesting 387 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: leading up to the game? 388 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 7: Oh, leading up to the game. 389 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, like like this week as you're looking at the 390 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,959 Speaker 1: AFC matchups, wish one of those three do you like most? 391 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 3: And why? 392 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 7: Kind of the Monday Night? I think you know, I 393 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 7: mean you, I think you guys probably know like the 394 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 7: I love the Texans defense you know, and I actually 395 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 7: think that that team has a lot of similarities to 396 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 7: the Broncos team. A just nasty defense that will beat 397 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 7: you up, that's unbelievably discipline that it can make any 398 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 7: other quarterback look bad. And the quarterback who makes the 399 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 7: plays at the right time can be great, but really 400 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 7: just makes plays to manage the offense. And I think 401 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 7: that's kind of similar. It's just the Broncos got out 402 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 7: to a little bit of a better start. Texans have 403 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 7: won a ton in a row, whatever it is, ten 404 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 7: or something like that. Yep, eight. Yeah, So I would 405 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 7: say they're, you know, similar to the Broncos, and they 406 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 7: face a dealers team that could be maybe overmatched, but 407 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 7: might not be because they got Aaron Rodgers and like 408 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 7: if he's stilling the ball like he did the other 409 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 7: night or what was that last night, like look out, 410 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 7: I'm just I think that's really fun because I just 411 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 7: like watching them play. So that's kind of what I 412 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 7: have my eyes on. The other weird one is the 413 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 7: Jaguars because like I mean, we all had fun with 414 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 7: the small market comment, but like everyone sort of overlooks them, 415 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 7: and I think it's very easy to They are really 416 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 7: good as you guys saw in person, they're really good. 417 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 7: So I mean this is like I have no idea. 418 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 7: I mean, it's great for the Bronco. You know, It's 419 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 7: like there's a lot of reasons you want to have 420 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 7: a buy one for Rest, but I think the real 421 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 7: reason is because you get through the weekend without having 422 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 7: to win or loose. You know. I think there's a 423 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 7: lot to light there. 424 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 5: And we saw a great climactic ending between two division 425 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 5: riders in the Baltimore Raves and Pittsburgh still was an 426 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 5: all season along. We've heard fans on both sides called 427 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 5: for both of their coaches to be fired. Obviously, Mike 428 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 5: Tomlin moves on with Anon Rodgers. But what have you 429 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 5: heard about the fate of John Harborough moving forward? 430 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I would say there's conversations that go 431 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 8: on in buildings and I would say they're going through 432 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,479 Speaker 8: that right now, Like what staff changes are they going 433 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 8: to make? 434 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 7: Where are they going to look? How do they, you know, 435 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 7: put their best foot forward for next season? The only 436 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 7: time when you have someone who is like long tenured 437 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 7: like that and it's respected and as a good person, 438 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 7: I mean they they you know, they had a pretty 439 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 7: good season. I mean, it wasn't perfect perfect, but like 440 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 7: they started off horrendously and closed pretty well. You know, 441 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 7: I would expect harboll back if they can get on 442 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 7: the same page with the changes that need to be made, 443 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 7: Like maybe there'sn't some changes on offense. I think that 444 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 7: would make some sense, you know, stuff like that. I mean, 445 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,959 Speaker 7: the only real time you get a full disconnect and 446 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 7: reset is when it's like one side like we want 447 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 7: to make changes, and the other side is like, no, 448 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 7: absolutely not. So I don't know that. I don't think 449 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 7: that'll be the case. It's certainly still something we're watching. 450 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 4: Ian. How do you think the Broncos stack up in 451 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 4: the AFC? 452 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 7: I mean I think really good. I mean, you know, 453 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 7: as good as good a chance to go the Super 454 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 7: Bowl as any really. Now, I don't know that. It's 455 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 7: like they got the number one seed, do you know that. 456 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know what the actually have no 457 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 7: idea what the who's the favorite? Is it the Broncos? Yeah? 458 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 4: The Broncos right now? 459 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 7: All right? If if it is, then I don't think 460 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 7: it should be by a lot. I mean, now, the 461 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 7: home field events is good, den Air is good, crowd 462 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 7: is really good, So you know, you got that going 463 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 7: for you. And obviously again you're not going to lose 464 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 7: this week, so that's good too. But I don't know 465 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 7: that it's like overwhelming, and that's what I think is 466 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 7: going to be really fun. Like there's no Zomar, there's 467 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 7: no ma Homes, there's no sort of institutional knowledge, so 468 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 7: it's literally just anyone. But like Sean Payton's really good coach. 469 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 7: Defense is awesome, Both sides are well coached. It's a 470 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 7: team that you know, he's really sort of embraced the 471 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 7: expectations of the team and made it clear how good 472 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 7: they can be. So like, I don't know why win 473 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 7: pe the Broncos, you know, like I mean, I think 474 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 7: they are in a really good position. 475 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: As we were talking about the AFC, let's look at 476 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: the NFC in Seattle as that. 477 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 3: Number one seed. 478 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: To watch the game in Santa Clara against the Niners 479 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: with the Seahawks, Yeah, find a. 480 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 3: Way to win that. 481 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: I mean, that was an impressive win when you look 482 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: at the Seahawks from a defensive standpoint, and then you 483 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: think you've got to go beat them in Seattle. You know, 484 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: as good as the NFC is and maybe it can happen, 485 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: but somebody's gonna have to play really really well on 486 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: the road to beat them. 487 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 7: Well, there's gonna be two things. I'm gonna have to 488 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 7: play really really well to beat them, or they're going 489 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 7: to turn the ball over a lot. And I think 490 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 7: that's sort of the thing that like you watch out for. 491 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 7: It's like, I think Sam Donald is awesome. I think 492 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 7: he's done a great job this year. I think it 493 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 7: was exactly what they wanted and probably a pretty good 494 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 7: price and sort of bargain for it. You do wonder 495 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 7: about big games and like is something going to happen? 496 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 7: And that's the only thing that I would say that 497 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 7: gives me maybe like a little bit of pause, is 498 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 7: like does he like all frantic and turn the ball over? 499 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 7: If not, then they are a major problem. Then you 500 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 7: are really gonna have to earn it. But that's you know, 501 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 7: I think that'll be the focus for everyone is confusing 502 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 7: them a little bit, getting them to throw the ball 503 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 7: for grabs and see what happens. 504 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 5: And this season has been very different than we've seen 505 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 5: in years past because there hasn't really been one dominant 506 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 5: team on ither conference. What do you think that we 507 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 5: can kind of say that credit that too, is that 508 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 5: because defensive units across the league have just gotten better 509 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 5: or we just seen this play call in execution just 510 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:37,959 Speaker 5: falling off offensively. 511 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 7: I mean, I think what sort of happened is, like, 512 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 7: first of all, some of the really good quarterbacks have 513 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 7: not played great, like Mahomes you know, obviously went fish 514 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 7: a little bit of a tougher year. But like it 515 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 7: just seems to be that for years and years and years, 516 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 7: all the best offensive coordinator candidates were hired, and I 517 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 7: think some of them have head coach jobs and not 518 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 7: all of them whole plays And then you know, you 519 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 7: have a bunch of defensive coordinators that are just getting 520 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 7: better and getting better and getting better, but not being 521 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 7: head coaches. And like that's what this year is about. 522 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 7: Like all the good head coach candidates except Matt Nagg, 523 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 7: you're defensive guys. That's just where the strength including Vans 524 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 7: by the way, That's just where the strength of this 525 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 7: coaching cycle is. 526 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 9: And you know, it's funny because like it doesn't always 527 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 9: lead to like the most you know, beautiful product on 528 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 9: the field, Like you're talking about the Seahawks game, like 529 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 9: that was like a beautiful game. 530 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 7: That was like a tough, hard nosed kind of ugly game. 531 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 7: But that's what great defense sometimes looks like. You know, 532 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 7: the last one. 533 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,479 Speaker 4: I have for Ian always appreciate it. 534 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 2: So we have six head coach openings now with two 535 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 2: GM openings. Are you a little surprised several of these 536 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 2: teams besides obviously the Falcons going with we're going to 537 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 2: retain our GM and let that GM lead the. 538 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 4: Charge for our head coaching search. 539 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 7: Uh well, Falcons remember moved on from Terry Faunt. 540 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 541 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 2: With the exception of the Falcons, everybody, everybody else except 542 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 2: start right. 543 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 7: You know, I think the the Raiders make sense. It 544 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 7: was only one year. You know, I think Giants and 545 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 7: Titans makes sense. It was only one year. I think 546 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 7: Joe Shane is probably the one that gets the most traction, 547 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 7: but like you know, he kind of came in with 548 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 7: day Ball but didn't hire him. So usually GMS get 549 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 7: the higher head coach. He'll get the opportunity to do that. 550 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 7: Monte Austen, for with the Cardinals, only had three years 551 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 7: and didn't even get to pick his own quarterbacks. So 552 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 7: you know, each of them are sort of unique. You know, 553 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 7: I would say Andrew Berry with the Cleveland Browns maybe 554 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 7: the most debated, but you know, they just had an 555 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 7: unbelievable draft class, and the whole draft class is good 556 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 7: and starting for them, so you know, it's a it's 557 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 7: a tough call. I think a lot of times, if 558 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 7: you could have one person who has experience and knows 559 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 7: what they're doing to start, that helps. If they could 560 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 7: be on the same page, You're just you know, hoping 561 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 7: that they're on the same page. 562 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 4: Always Gradian, appreciate you man. We'll check you me the 563 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 4: next week. 564 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 7: Okay, look forward to it. 565 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 9: Take care of guys, Danks. 566 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 4: I appreciate Ian the text line. 567 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 2: I've noticed Ian sounds like a bou doubter every time 568 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 2: you talk to him. The national media perspective on him 569 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 2: seems unfair to me. He is learning and has to improve. 570 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 2: But I would rather have him than Shroud any day. Well, 571 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 2: some of what Bo is now and what we hope 572 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,719 Speaker 2: Vo will one day become like because CJ has been 573 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 2: in the league longer, I think we have a better 574 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 2: idea of what CJ is, some of his strengths and 575 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: some of his weaknesses. If you if you'd have taken 576 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 2: just the encapsulation of his rookie year and then projected 577 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 2: that out. Oh, we thought he was gonna be a 578 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer, like almost immediately. Some of you did, well, 579 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: what do you mean, you people? Some of you did. 580 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: I liked what I saw in his rookie year. I think, yeah, 581 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 2: anybody with ice, there was plenty to like. And I 582 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 2: liked what I saw from his rookie year as well. 583 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: I was, however, not ready to coordinate him as a 584 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: sure fire Hall of Fame player. You and there's a 585 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 2: large humans sitting in the seat that Nick It's in now, 586 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 2: that I believe, and if he's listening, if he's listening, yes, 587 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 2: I am talking about you, big fellow. Uh, you don't 588 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 2: forget anything, No, because I was a proponent of in 589 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 2: that draft, CJ went second right, and CJ had by 590 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 2: far a better rookie year. But I think and there 591 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 2: were people that we're ready to say Bryce Young can't 592 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 2: play at this in this league. There any guys I 593 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 2: can't remember. 594 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: No, I can't remember who it was, but they intimated it, 595 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: because really more times than not they intimate things rather 596 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: than just come out. 597 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 3: And state how they feel. But I can't remember who 598 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 3: it was. 599 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 5: You can take a shot in the dark. Yeah, I 600 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 5: was here at the time, but that person wouldn't beat 601 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 5: him my right, would it. 602 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 4: I did not say such a thing. Now I'll say that. 603 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 4: I'll say this to my fit defend. 604 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 2: Myself here and maybe defend the big guy. We both 605 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: like CJ. Stroud the most of that draft class. So 606 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 2: it was a little bit of a confirmation, right, And 607 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 2: it was a little bit of a victory lap. I'm 608 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 2: not talking I'm not talking about the big fella. I'm 609 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,239 Speaker 2: talking about the little fella I'm looking at. 610 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: So there was a victory lap of sorts by a guy. 611 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: There's victory labs, victory lap of sorts. Who's a guy 612 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: that is at best like a thirteen minute miler. But 613 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: you did victory lap like four times around the around 614 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: the lap, around the circle. 615 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 3: So all I'm saying is, yeah, I think c J. 616 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 3: Stroud's a good player. 617 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: He's not had the same kind of production for not 618 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: all not all his fault He's not had the same 619 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: kind of protection. But he's also not had the same 620 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: kind of production in either of his second or third 621 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: seasons as he did as a role. 622 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 5: Also, what he didn't have was Joe Mixon, Right, that 623 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 5: that was a huge part of his offense, and that 624 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 5: that's a huge asset for any quarterback. Rickie, your veteran 625 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 5: having a running back that you could turn around and 626 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 5: hand the ball off to make it easy for you 627 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 5: in the passing game and you can throw it dumb 628 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 5: into him out of the backdrow and with the changing 629 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 5: of an offensive coordinator, which you know, Bobby Slog was 630 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 5: there his first year and just think about it, everyone 631 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 5: was talking about c J. Stroud as being the next whatever, 632 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 5: but also Bobby Slog was getting head coaching interviews. 633 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 3: You got like five of them based on that. 634 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 5: But also goes back to me because the whole idea 635 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 5: of what you're talking about, Dave, when you talk about 636 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 5: c J. Stroud and you talk about Bryce Young, how 637 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 5: sometimes people look quick to under and over evaluate quarterbacks. 638 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 5: Because look at what Bryce Young has done right now, 639 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 5: because he was perceived to be some of a bus 640 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 5: but he got with Dave dan Ellison right now the playoff, 641 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 5: and I'm not saying that all of a sudden, his 642 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 5: play is just the spectacular while he's kind of trying 643 00:31:54,480 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 5: to change the better. So Ryan, would you like to clarify. 644 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 2: Anything I I think I'm just still stuck on the 645 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 2: fact that you think I could run a thirteen minute mile. 646 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 3: I think you could thank you because you do you 647 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 3: not think? Seriously, do you really? Do we not think 648 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 3: you could run four times around a high school track? 649 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 3: Oh god, thirteen minutes sounds exhausting. 650 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 4: Why would anybody do that? 651 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 3: We should have put this to test. I am here 652 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 3: to put this to the test. 653 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying Ryan could do I don't know how much, 654 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: how much under, but I think he'd be under thirteen minutes. 655 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 4: I think it's very generous of you that you believed 656 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 4: that the. 657 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 3: Last time you've run a mile? Oh my god, you. 658 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 5: Should ask you should ask it the first time. What 659 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 5: was the last time you actually took a run? 660 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 3: When's the last time you actually went for a run 661 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 3: like a purpose? 662 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 7: Well, you're. 663 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 3: Running from something. When's the last time you went for 664 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 3: a run. 665 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, probably my twenties. 666 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: God, seriously, going on, how do you how do you 667 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: clear your head? 668 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 9: Well? 669 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 2: We we we fly football, but that's like different, that's 670 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 2: like not going run run. 671 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, you get like. 672 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: A good workout where you we walk police and doorphins, 673 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: we walk along. 674 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 3: Do you ever do anything by yourself. I guess the 675 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 3: answered the question, Dave, that's not I'm just saying, what's 676 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 3: the last time you worked out by yourself. That's been 677 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 3: a while that I count on you doing that. In 678 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 3: the month of January. 679 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 4: Five six six zeros are 680 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 3: Okay away.