1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Sixth night Side with Dan Ray on wv Z, Boston's 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: news radio. 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: So we just spent an hour talking about the tragic 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 2: loss of life of Enrique Delgado Garcia, young man who 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: wanted to become a Massachusetts State Police officer and was 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: at the in the process of going through training. Apparently 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: he was involved on successive days and a couple of 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: boxing matches. Apparently one day he suffered some concussion like 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: symptoms and yet was put back in the ring. The 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: next day he was badly injured and passed and died 11 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: the next day. Like for Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, yesterday, there 12 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: was a report released through the Attorney General's Office of 13 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: a Special Counsul David Meyer, someone who I happen to 14 00:00:55,040 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 2: know was very thorough and I read you know a 15 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: lot about what he has done, and I have all 16 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 2: the confidence in the world. As a bottom line is 17 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: that four state police members of these State Police training 18 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: staff in New Braintree have now been indicted by grand 19 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 2: jury for involuntary manslaughter. So at some point we're going 20 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: to segue to the Nancy Guthrie story, which is breaking 21 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 2: even at this hour, as someone has been detained for 22 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: questioning the authorities seem to be very careful in how 23 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 2: they're characterizing this individual. But as you know today, there 24 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: were videotapes which I'm sure have spurred a variety of 25 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: tips to the authorities out in Tucson. We still have 26 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: not heard that Nancy Guthrie has been found, so that 27 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: this story is still developing. But in the meantime we 28 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: can continue if you would like, on the this this horrific, 29 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: terrible story in which Enrique Delgado Garcia is someone who 30 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: simply wanted to serve as a state police officer, was 31 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: put into a situation which he was injured badly and 32 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: died of the injuries that he suffered in September of 33 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. 34 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 3: With us is Paul. 35 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: If you want to continue the conversation six one, seven, two, five, four, 36 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty 37 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 2: will continue it. If not, we will segue to the 38 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 2: Nancy Guthrie story and the breaking news out in Tucson. 39 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: In the meantime, we're delighted to be joined by Paul 40 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 2: from Sidwood, who has told my producer that he knew 41 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 2: at least one member of the graduating of the class 42 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 2: in which Enrique Delgado Garcia was a member. 43 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: Hey Paul, thanks for calling Nightside. How are you, sir, good? 44 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: How are you tonight? 45 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 3: Well? 46 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: Dealing with kind of a tough topic here, you don't 47 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: think that someone should likely lose their life in this way, 48 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: And now we have four state police officers who have 49 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: lost their certification. They I guess will be paid in 50 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: the short term, but I doubt if they're particularly if 51 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: they're convicted ever going to go back to work for 52 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: the state Police. What what what perspective did you want 53 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 2: to share? 54 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: So I wanted to share that one of my friend's 55 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: son was in that that same graduating class, and I 56 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: want to say, it was like, uh, off the top 57 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: of my head, the ninetieth. 58 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 3: I think you're right. 59 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: I think it is what they went by. And when 60 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: this tragedy happened, I spoke to that to that personally, 61 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: and he told me how it was a complete accident 62 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: and it was super unfortunate. And I think that I 63 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: think that the training staff being indicted on this is 64 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: it's pretty absurd because the Massachusetts State Police, in my opinion, 65 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: is definitely super professional and they train and equip all 66 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: their troopers to not only not only do they kind 67 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: of check them for their their abilities, their military service, 68 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: their their professionalism. 69 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: Yep, I tend to I tend to agree with you 70 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 2: on that point. 71 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 3: Generally. 72 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: I have a brother who is a retired State Police lieutenant, 73 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: and through him, I know a lot of State Police officers, uh, 74 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: and so I agree with you. However, the State Police 75 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 2: has had a series of incidents that over the years 76 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: have brought dishonor to the union, to the uniform. I 77 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: remember there was one State Police officer down in the 78 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 2: Cape many years ago who was convicted of drug smuggling. 79 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: There have been other officers who have been involved in 80 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: some of the overtime scandals on the turnpike. There have 81 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 2: been other officers who have been accused of soliciting young 82 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 2: women when they stopped them for traffic violation and suggesting 83 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: that perhaps sexual favors could eliminate the possibility of a ticket. 84 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: So there have been problems in this case. My understanding, 85 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: and I'd like you to address it for me, Paul, 86 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 2: particularly since you talked to a member of the class. 87 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: My understanding is that on September eleventh, which I think 88 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,119 Speaker 2: was a Tuesday. I could be wrong, this guy gets 89 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 2: in the ring and apparently had never been in a 90 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 2: boxing ring before, and they were told to spar with 91 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: each other, you know, to hold back and not hit 92 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 2: with any force. And he apparently from that activity was 93 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: suffering con concussion like symptoms. And then he was put 94 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: back in the ring the next day and was he'd 95 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 2: been knocked out. He'd been knocked down two or three 96 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: times the day before. I don't know why he was 97 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: back in the ring. If if you have concussion is 98 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: like symptoms at a football in an NFL football game 99 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: on a Sunday, you're not going to be practicing for 100 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: two or three days and you may not be activated 101 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: for the following Sunday. So there was lack of supervision 102 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: for this guy to be put back if he's got 103 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: concussion like symptoms. Would you not agree with that? 104 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: I would say, if that's concern, is that was in 105 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: fact the case, And I don't know because that's. 106 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 3: What the report. That's I can only go and what 107 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: what the report says. 108 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not trying to lure you into something that. 109 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: I understand that and I don't. Obviously I was not there, 110 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: so I heard this from somebody who is yep. But 111 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: it was a I think it was just a training 112 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: exercise that is has been consistent with all the prior classes. 113 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: Yes, and I think and I think you're I think 114 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: you're you're you're the son of your friend is correct 115 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: on that. But what I'm saying to you is that 116 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: in the report that David Meyer released yesterday, he said 117 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: that the day before, uh so, if it's a Tuesday 118 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: and Wednesday, the day before the young man was was injured, 119 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: knocked down and suffered again what he called concussion like 120 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: symptoms and and and that is what, in his opinion, 121 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,239 Speaker 2: led to his death. Let me let me just play 122 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: for you what I have a SoundBite here from David 123 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: Meyer yesterday. 124 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: I just want you to react to it. Again. 125 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: I wasn't there either. I know no more about it 126 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: than you do. Rob play for me one more time. 127 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: I cut number twenty one. 128 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 4: The wanton and reckless conduct resulted in Enrique Delgado Garcia 129 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 4: suffering concussion like symptoms as the result of unauthorized, unapproved 130 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 4: and unsupervised boxing related sparring exercises that occurred during academy 131 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 4: training activities on Wednesday, September eleventh, twenty twenty four. The 132 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 4: wanton and reckless conduct culminated in Enrique Delgado Garcia suffering 133 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 4: multiple blunt force injuries to the head and massive brain 134 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 4: bleeding as the result of the failure of academy staff 135 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 4: to intervene and bring a stop to a competitive boxing 136 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 4: match between mister Delgado Garcia and a fellow trainee that 137 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 4: occurred during academy training activities the following morning on Thursday, 138 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 4: September twelve, twenty twenty four. Mister Delgado Garcia died the 139 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 4: following day, September thirteen, twenty twenty four, as a result 140 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 4: of the head injuries sustained during the recruit on recruit 141 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 4: boxing match that Thursday morning. 142 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: And if I could, Paul, let me just share with 143 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 2: you a part of his report yesterday, just to emphasize 144 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: that he's a very fair special counsel. He says, in 145 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 2: so far as I have shared with you generally that 146 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: certain wanton and reckless acts and omissions compel the criminal 147 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: prosecution of certain members of the Academy's Defensive Tactics Unit, 148 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: I want to ensure that certain additional facts are made 149 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 2: abundantly clear based upon the testimony and the exhibits before 150 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 2: the grand jury. There is no evidence that Enrique Delgado 151 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 2: Garcia was quote unquote targeted in any way. There is 152 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: no evidence that anyone academy staff, fellow trainees, or any 153 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 2: others harbored any personal animosity toward Enriqui Delgado Garcia. There 154 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:03,479 Speaker 2: is no evidence that anyone acted with deliberation, premeditation, or malice. 155 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: One final comment. I take no personal satisfaction none from 156 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 2: where the facts have led. But I'm confident that the 157 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 2: investigative team and I have carried out our assignment professionally, responsively, 158 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 2: and independently, and I'm confident that we have done so 159 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: the right way and for the right reasons. 160 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: Your comment, Paul, Well, my comment is I had not 161 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: heard that report previously, and I think any reasonable person 162 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: would agree that if there were concussion like symptoms that 163 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: occurred the day before, yeah, and then he was allowed 164 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: to participate the following day, that would be an issue. 165 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 2: And there is also legally a duty of care that 166 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: exists when you're in whether you're in basic training in 167 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 2: the military, whether you're at Four Dicks or at Paris Island, 168 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 2: or you're in a training facility at the Massachusetts Place, 169 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 2: and I think that is where and any of us 170 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 2: who have been through any of that understand that, uh 171 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 2: that they're not there to to intentionally inflict any harm. 172 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: And there's no allegation that they did. But if they 173 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: were inattentive or recklessly encouraged, you know, uh, you know 174 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: more you more intensity than should have been permitted. That's 175 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 2: where you get into the area of it and you 176 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 2: have a death. That's that immediately gets you to involuntary manslaughter. 177 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: In my opinion, because I do agree that that Garcia 178 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: was absolutely well liked by the other trainees, yeah, or 179 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: cadets in this program. So there was certainly no targeting 180 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:04,239 Speaker 1: going on anything whatsoever, right, and that's what's. 181 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 3: Myers my I quoted from Myers report there. 182 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: Yep, great, yep. 183 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 3: Okay, Look, I appreciate you calling. 184 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: I verally appreciate your calling and and and giving you know, 185 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: another perspective on it, and let's see how it all 186 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: plays out. Yeah, but the one thing we can agree 187 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 2: upon that you and I can agree upon is that 188 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 2: there was a death here that never. 189 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 3: Should have occurred. 190 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: I do agree with that, all right. 191 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: Paul and SITU appreciate your call. Thank you so much 192 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 2: for joining us tonight. 193 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: Thank you You're welcome. 194 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 2: Okay, I would like to switch now to the fast 195 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 2: moving developments in Tucson. And again, when the video was 196 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 2: released today, I was in the gym and I was 197 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 2: stunned by it because I thought that after ten days, uh, 198 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 2: and apparently the video just became available today. 199 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 3: It was not held back. 200 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 2: But I looked at that video and I said, look, 201 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 2: this guy's going to be recognized bay thirty of his 202 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 2: friends and they will be able to pinpoint this guy. 203 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: I thought to myself between forty eight and seventy two hours, 204 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: I think that that I don't understand. It'll be interesting 205 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 2: to understand why why this would have happened. I mean, 206 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: this is an eighty four year old woman. I don't 207 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: care how much money Savannah Guthrie has, and I understand 208 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: that network television stars make a lot of money. Uh. 209 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 3: I want to get from you. 210 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: I want to get your perspective on this six one, seven, two, five, 211 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine, three thirty. I 212 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: was quite relieved today. And I don't know Savannah got 213 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: three or anyone in her family. I was quite relieved 214 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 2: today that that this video was somehow recovered. Some of 215 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 2: you out there probably know and can explain better than 216 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: I can, and if you, if you could, I'd appreciate 217 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 2: the help. How they were able to go and find 218 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: his video, it was not readily available, so open it up. 219 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: Six one seven two thirty six one seven, nine three 220 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: one ten thirty. This should be a lesson to a 221 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: lot of you, A lot of the criminals out there. 222 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: I almost said to you criminals. No, a lot of 223 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: the criminals other than my listeners. If you do this 224 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: stuff now, with what you gotta conveal with, you're stupid. 225 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: You're stupid. This guy, if this is the guy, or 226 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: if this is the guy that leads the authorities to 227 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 2: the guy, what a moron, What a moron. And I 228 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 2: hope that Nancy Guthrie is somehow alive in whatever captivity 229 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: she has endured. Feel free to bring it back right 230 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 2: after the break. Let's light these lines up here on 231 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: night side.