WEBVTT - 10-24-25 Scott Sloan Show 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:02.440 Do you want to be an American idiot? 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:06.120 Only seven hundred WLW the weekend. It's here. You can 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:08.560 smell it, you can taste it, you can hear it coming. 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:11.720 And thank God because we have football, football, and football 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:13.600 and more football. As the Bengals try to get to 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:16.959 five hundred and the Bearcats go for seven straight on that, 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:19.280 the voice of both Dan Horr jumps in this morning 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:22.239 on the Big One. Danny, It's been a interesting week, 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:25.119 to say the least, sports wise. I let me begin 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:26.960 real quick. I'm going to put you on the spot 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:30.200 as I usually do. Your take on this NBA scandal. 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:36.760 Well, obviously surprised by some of the people that are involved, 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:40.559 most notably Portland's head coach Shauncey Billups. But when you 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:44.159 embrace gambling to the extent that professional sports leagues have, 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:48.000 it seemed inevitable to me that at some point something 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:50.320 like this was going to happen. So in that sense, 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:52.040 I can't say that I'm shocked. 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:55.360 What strikes me is the stupidity of the bets that 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:57.360 were being placed, because we know, you know, if you're 0:00:57.360 --> 0:00:59.840 a professional giving, you know, they monitor all these algorithms, 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:02.560 watching social media, doing all this stuff is. Remember the 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:05.600 scandal that sort of involved that. You see Bearcat baseball 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:07.920 team of the guy from was It Alabama was betting 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:10.040 on Alabama and put like one hundred thousand dollars down 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:12.920 to sports book ATPA. You know they're gonna flag that. 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:15.759 They're going to see that instantly. Now, the X ray 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:17.960 poker tables, that's a different story. I got to go 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:20.160 to Watson's to give me an X ray poker table. 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:22.919 That's pretty cool. That was incredible. 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:27.120 Yeah, so basically face down cards can be seen. Wow 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:30.160 with an X ray table. I remember the X ray 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:32.760 glasses in the back of comic book. When I was 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:35.600 a kid, I never sprung for a pair. They always 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:36.320 looked intriguing. 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:38.280 If I were sitting at a table, my concern would 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:39.640 be cut in the game and it'd be like, wait 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:41.760 a minute, you had an X ray device on where 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:45.160 I'm sitting near my crotch for how many hours? That's 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:48.600 a real problem. That's a different problem anyway. Uh, that's 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:50.720 the stuff I worry about. Let's pivot to. Let's start 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:52.600 with you see this morning break it up simply because 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:54.640 you've got to give them love there on a heater, 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:56.840 like we haven't seen in a long time. Good for 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.320 Sadderfield because he's been in a hot seat. Let's face it, 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.120 looking a rip off. A seventh straight win. They dismantled 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.840 the Cowboys in front of shirtless students was arguably it 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:07.000 was one of the coolest college football things I've seen 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:09.200 because they were getting pounded and these students were still 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.960 going nuts with their shirt off, shirts off. Bearcat said 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:15.600 at number twenty one in the AP their bowl eligible 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:17.760 now early on in this thing, and they got homecoming 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:20.640 against Baylor at four o'clock and you on the call. 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:26.880 Great opportunity for Cincinnati to keep moving toward possibly playing 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:28.799 in the Big twelve Championship game at the end of 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:30.840 the year. In Dallas, they've got five games left in 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.080 the regular season. Three of the five are at home, 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:37.560 which is good, including tomorrow's four o'clock homecoming game. If 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:42.280 you go into the brand new palatial UC indoor practice facility, 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:46.919 there are TV monitors on the wall that list their 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:50.520 fourteen goals and the fourth and final thing listed is 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:54.440 simply one word, Dallas. That's what they've been focused on, 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:57.240 trying to get to the Big twelve Championship game in Dallas. 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:01.519 It seems far fetched to many the beginning of the year. Cincinnati, 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:04.880 certainly outside of this area, is not expected to compete 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:07.600 for the Big twelve title. But they're legit. This is 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.640 not fluky. They've got a great offense, they've got an 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.960 opportunistic defense. It'd be nice to see the defense get 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:15.880 off the field a little bit more frequently on third 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:19.120 and fourth down. But having said that, it's a legitimately 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:22.040 good team and it should be a great game tomorrow 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:24.079 because Baylor scores a ton of points, so it couldn't 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:24.520 shoot out. 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:26.320 Yeah, they average like over thirty six points per game. 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:28.480 That could be a challenge for the for the SINCD. 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:29.920 No doubt. 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:33.760 Baylor's quarterback Sawyer Robertson leads the nation in passing yards. 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:37.760 He's tied for first and touchdown passes. Now, their defense 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:41.640 has really struggled. They're giving up more than thirty points 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:44.120 a game. So I would expect Cincinnati's offense to be 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:46.280 able to go up and down the field, but defense 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.360 is going to have to get some stops for the 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:49.360 Bearcat to pull it up. 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:51.640 Yeah, and with Brandon Soarsby, of course, it just feels 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:53.880 like he's going to be a you know, fifty two 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:56.520 to forty two shootouts. This guy, it has a feel 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:56.880 all over. 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:01.440 Maybe not quite the high I'm going that high. 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:03.600 I love the score. I'm a freak for the touchdowns. 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:05.720 Yeah, you know, they've had a couple of games this 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:08.160 year where both teams scored in the thirties. They beat 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:11.160 Kansas thirty seven thirty four. They beat Iowa State thirty 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:13.680 eight to thirty. I wouldn't be surprised if it's something 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:14.080 like that. 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.960 Yeah, all right, So that is tomorrow homecoming at the 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:20.240 Universe Cincinnati. Tony Pike getting entered in the Hall of Fame, 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:21.800 which is pretty cool to see pikeer doing that. 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:26.279 Yeah, it's a tremendous weekend for my broadcast partners. 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:28.640 Tony Pike goes into the UC Hall of Fame tonight. 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:30.920 That ceremony is tonight, and of course Laugh goes into 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.479 the Bengals Ring of Honor on Sunday at halftime with 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:38.040 Leap and Lamar Parish. So I'm a crier, sloany, I 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:41.240 get about these things. So if you hear me get 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:43.320 choked up on either broadcast, you'll know. 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:45.159 What that's awesome. Yeah, Well, you're a good guy and 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:48.520 you deserve now and and your day is I think 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:50.680 at some point, I mean, you're ready the UC You're 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:52.360 gonna be the Ring you honor next year. I'm voting 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:54.320 Dan Horde Ring of Honor twenty twenty six. 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:58.200 I am not eligible and I do not belong that 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:02.880 should be reserved or former players, coaches or the guy 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:06.520 who started the franchise, Paul Brown. Aside from that, I 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:08.480 don't think any other name should be up on the ring. 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:08.760 Bock. 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:11.479 Let's jump to that game on Sunday, on Dave Lapham Day. 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.360 Let's talk about the three and four Bengals six and 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:16.240 a half point favorites over the hapless Jets are oh 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:18.200 and seven. But a coach will tell you, we look, 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:20.040 there's any no more dangerous team than an OH to 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:22.960 seven club. That said, Dan, it's just what the injuries 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:26.039 I have. I don't know how the Jets pull this off. 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:26.640 I really don't. 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:31.560 Yeah, less the injuries for me than it is the quarterbacks. 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:34.800 So Justin Fields and Tyrod Taylor are not about to 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:38.800 be confused with Montana Marino and Uniteds or Flaco. Justin 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:41.920 Fields has been or Flack or Justin Fields has been dreadful. 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.440 They switched to Tyrod Taylor at halftime of their lost 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:49.000 last week. Neither quarterback led the team to a touchdown. 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:53.599 Their owner, Woody Johnson, blasted Justin Fields earlier this week, 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:57.520 basically defending his coach by saying how lousy his quarterback is. 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:01.760 So that's atypical FORFL owner to do that. So the 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.279 quarterback play has been bad. I do think their defense 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:06.960 is good. They've only given up thirteen points in each 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:09.400 of the last two games, so it might be difficult 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:11.359 for the Bengals to put a big offensive number. 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:11.760 On the board. 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:15.760 But I wouldn't expect either of those quarterbacks to lead 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:17.000 the Jets to a bunch of points. 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:17.240 Yeah. 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:19.440 I mentioned the injuries, and we're kind of, you know, 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:22.200 a homecoming if you will, on homecoming weekend for Sauce 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:25.120 Gardner doesn't look like he's going. He's got a concussion 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:27.680 and you may recall I think that it was twenty 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:30.599 twenty two, I believe, and he single handedly shut down 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:32.160 the Chase in Higgins. 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:35.880 He's one of the best corners in the NFL. He's 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.200 being paid like he got a huge extension prior to 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.280 this season, and we all know what he's capable of 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:43.000 from his tremendous career at UC so, Yes, that is 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:45.760 a gigantic loss for the Jets as they try to 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:47.960 contend with Plac o' higgins, Chase, etc. 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:49.960 Yeah, that's a problem. And then on the other side 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:51.479 of the ball for them, I mentioned the injuries. Garrett 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:54.599 Wilson has the knee. More than one in four completions 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:57.000 have gone his way. He's twenty fifth in receivers in 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:59.479 the league right now as a first rounder out of 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:02.200 the Ohio State. But is he going to be interrupted? 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:04.920 We know yet, I think out. 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:09.200 According to a Rich Samini, who covers the Jets for ESPN, 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:12.680 my former college classmate at Tyracuse University, he says he 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.720 expects Garrett Wilson to be out partly because of any injury, 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:18.440 partly because they have a bye next week, so this 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:20.200 would give him a couple of weeks. And he missed 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:21.880 last week's game, so it would give him three weeks 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:24.480 to recover from that injury. And if you look at 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:28.520 the Jets receiving corps beyond Garrett Wilson, there's no doubt 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.880 it's the worst in the NFL. I mean, Alan Lazard, 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:34.080 the former Green Bay Packer, is on that roster. 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:35.960 But he's on the back nine. 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:40.040 Josh Reynolds is probably their second best wide receiver and 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:43.120 he's not very good. So this is a very poor 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.880 receiving group once you remove Garrett Wilson. 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:49.520 Yeah, plus you have Tyrod Taylor in there too, and 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:52.080 you just look at it and you think the Bengals 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:55.360 can feast the area concerned. Of course, Preece Hall, running 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:58.120 back top twenty yards per carry, got stopped to run 0:07:58.240 --> 0:07:58.760 on Sunday. 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.000 All is the best player on the offense, especially with 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:06.440 Garrett Wilson out, and you know, he's a great player. 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:11.040 Replaced David Montgomery at Iowa State as the running back, 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:14.280 and much like David Montgomery, he's proven to be an 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:17.400 excellent NFL player. So yeah, there's no doubt about it. 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:20.000 Looking at that offense, that's the person that you put 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:23.200 a gigantic circle around as the number one priority to 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:25.240 shut down or at least, you know, hold them to 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:28.240 reasonable numbers. And if the Bengals do that, I think 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:29.760 the Jets are really struggle to score. 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.800 Yeah, and I think you look at that the pass 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.520 protection Jets have getten up thirty one sacks through seven games, 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:37.559 of the worst of the NFL. The old line is terrible. 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:41.040 You've got a less mobile Tyrod Taylor in there. You 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:42.839 would expect it to be a really, really good day 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:43.800 for that Bengals. 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:49.400 Dealon offensive line, well, let me backtrack. Stacks are not 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:53.040 just an offensive line that. It's a quarterback stat too, 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:54.880 and I do think one of the reasons why they've 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:58.080 given up so many sacks is justin fields. As mobile 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:00.520 as he is, holds on to the ball for ever. Yeah, 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.600 he doesn't see it like the elite quarterbacks do. So 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:06.760 I would expect Tyrod Taylor to get rid of it 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.680 quicker and that'll make it more difficult to get to him. 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.439 But your point is right, it's not a great offensive line. 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:15.880 They haven't invested first round picks in both tackles, and 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.280 I think both of those guys will eventually be good, 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:19.520 but they're not there yet. 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:22.360 Dan Horde, voice of the Bengals and the Bearcats. Big 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:24.720 weekend for both teams of the Jets in town. We're 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:27.000 pivoting on that right now. We're talking about that right now. 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:30.520 I also look at the quarterback matchup too, and we'll 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.120 rewind of the Steeler game. To me, and I'm sure 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:35.640 you're the same. The best thing about last week's was 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:39.440 how angry What was going through Mike Tomlin's head walking 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:42.000 from the locker room to the bus and thinking how 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:45.400 Cleveland probably should have got I don't know, like a 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:47.840 half a win with that one for trading him to us, 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:50.599 and right before the Steelers it was fantastic. 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:54.679 I would buy a ticket for the Mike Tomlin Andrew 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:55.480 Berry fight. 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:57.199 Can we just put up a. 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.240 Boxing ring in the middle of an NFL stadium and 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:02.560 that a Steelers coach square off against the Cleveland Browns 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:06.000 GM That would be very entertaining. Mike Common definitely wanted 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:08.200 a piece of him after that game last Thursday night. 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:11.640 And yes, thank you Cleveland for trading Joe Flacker to 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:14.840 the Bengals. Bengals fans are chanting that, yep. After the 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:18.520 game when Joe Flacco was interviewed by the Amazon Prime crew, 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:21.599 thank you Cleveland. So it turned out to be a 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:24.400 great trade, at least so far. He's been spectacular in 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:27.079 his last six quarters and you're hoping he keeps it 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:28.319 up On a Sunday afternoon. 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.400 Yeah, the ghost of Paul Brown rising up and beating 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:33.559 the Steelers. I absolutely love it. What was that most 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:36.320 surprising aspect of that game last week with the Steeler 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:37.080 went for you, Dan. 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:43.240 Really just how easy it looks for Flacco right now. 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:46.760 I mean the simple fact that he was able to 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:49.560 come in here on a Tuesday, hould his first practice 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.600 on a Wednesday, and play well in the second half 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:54.719 against Green Bay in Week one, and then have a 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:56.840 short week in Week two and it looks like he's 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:00.199 been here for five years instead of you know, at 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.040 that point nine days. So the fact that he's playing 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:06.640 at such a high level with so little time invested 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:08.800 with the Bengals, that's what's most remarkable to me. 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:11.760 He had a called him the goat for two reasons, 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.600 you know, the grismelter, but also the fact that you know, 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:17.400 like like in in the horse racing, you is, they 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:19.160 have like a goat that hangs out in the stables 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:20.560 to kind of keep be a but kind of calmed 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:22.240 down the horse a little. He had that effect on 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:24.400 the place because early on, you know, people are jumping 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.040 off size. There's Chase Brown wrapped that easy ball and 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:28.679 I was like, oh man, here we go. And then 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:30.640 he just had this like I got this, it's calm, calm, 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:33.040 this hole is this own the zen thing he had 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:35.400 going down, and the team like bought in and he 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:37.800 just calmly, let drives up and down the field all night. 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:40.120 It was to me that was at presence. He's just like, 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:43.280 it's okay, I've seen worse. We got this. He settled 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:43.880 everybody down. 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:44.439 I think. 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:49.960 Joe Burrow is Joe cool, Joe Flacco is Joe calm. 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:52.760 That's the effect that he's had on the team. He 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:56.480 is unflackable. And if you prefer that as you're a 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:59.680 lion about you know, just the presence that he's provided. 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:02.480 But I think that's absolutely true, and they needed it. 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:07.160 Jake Browning's confidence was shot. The coaches and players had 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:10.280 lost confidence in him, partly because of his play, or 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:12.400 largely because of his play, but also just because you 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:15.559 could hear it in his voice. He had completely lost confidence. 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:20.080 So Joe Flacco has come in and instantly changed that vibe. 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:22.600 And of course he's offset and for the second week 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.480 in Row an older quarterback, certainly not to the age 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:28.240 of the previous week, or is it, but by tyro 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:29.719 Tap has been on a week for a long time 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:32.600 as well. When we heard that the Jets are going 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:35.199 with him instead, how does that change things relative to 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:36.320 the game plan for Sunday. 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.240 It doesn't really change much because the Jets offense doesn't 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:42.840 change much. But I do think it makes the Jets 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:46.360 more of a threat, only because that's how lousy Justin 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:52.359 Fields had been playing. You know, the Jets are struggling 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:56.200 in every way offensively, the one that matters is points 0:12:56.640 --> 0:13:00.480 and they haven't scored a touchdown in two weeks. So Field, 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:03.040 you look at his NFL career, he's been good as 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:06.120 a running quarterback, but he's never really been good as 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:09.360 a passing quarterback. I think if you look it's the 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:13.239 last five years. If you look at the three teams 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:16.160 in the last five years that had averaged the fewest 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.440 passing yards to this point of the year, I know 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:21.000 it's kind of a wordy stat but in any case, 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:24.320 those three teams were all quarterback by Justin Field. So 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:27.240 if this year's Jets and two of the teams where 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:30.439 he was the starting quarterback with the Bears, those three 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:34.360 teams had the lowest passing yards per game at this 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:37.040 point of the season in the last five years. So 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:40.120 that tells you that Justin Fields is just not a 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:42.680 good passing quarterback period. 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.040 As bad as this team is, and we just discussed 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:47.480 all the Jets injuries as well. The Bengals are not 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:49.680 nearly as bang up. Obviously two be one being down. 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.720 But Trey Hendrickson on that hip has been limited all 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:54.600 week is does it just make more sense to rest 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:57.080 him and then give Shamar Stewart more reps? Now? Granted, 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:58.960 Shamar Stewart is not where he needs to be at 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:01.000 this point in his young career, but it feels like 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:01.880 a gamer, you should do that. 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:07.360 It all depends on how serious the injury is. You know, 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:12.640 Trey reportedly wanted to play last week, so he continues 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:16.240 to be limited practice. They're going to evaluate that based 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:19.240 on just how serious this hip injury is. But if 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.920 they determine that he's had no risk to make it 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:25.240 worse and feels like he can play, you can't afford 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:28.760 to lose at this point to a team that's winless 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:31.000 at home. So if Trade thinks he can play and 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:33.520 the medical staff says, you know what, it's ready at 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:34.520 this point, I'd play him. 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:36.560 We didn't talk at all about Chase Brown, who lit 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:38.160 up the Steelers last game. All of a sudden, it 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.280 was like a light switch got flipped to expect more 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:40.920 of that this week. 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:44.840 No, I don't know if the Bengals are going to 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:46.840 rush for more than one hundred and forty yards again, 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:48.560 but I do think that they're going to have a 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:50.880 lot more than they had prior to last week's game. 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:53.600 I don't think they had top sixty if I'm not mistaken, 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:57.160 in the previous games, So let's get that number into 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:59.920 triple digits at least. I think they found something that 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:02.560 the offensive line in the Pittsburgh game, and hopefully it 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:05.800 continues because they need to have some sort of a 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.040 running threat. That's one of the reasons why Flacco is 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:11.760 so effective. Against the Steelers, they finally had a running threat. 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:14.640 Chase Brown average nearly ten yards to carry. He's not 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:16.520 going to do that again, but you know, for much 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:19.600 of this year it was under three. So I thought 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:22.400 the running game actually showed some signs of life against 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:25.120 the Packers. I think they averaged more than four yards 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:28.400 to carry in that game, and then they got to 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:30.000 a point where they had to throw it in the 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:33.960 second half. But it's showing signs of life. It was 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:37.120 really good last week, and hopefully it'll at least be 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:38.120 solid on Sunday. 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:41.000 Yeah, you would think so. In better blocking helps. They 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:43.240 blocked a lot better against Pittsburgh than they have in 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.160 a couple of games. Also, it's this time of year, 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:47.400 the trade deadline coming up. The Logan Wilson thing is 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:48.960 I don't guess. I think it's just noise. I mean, 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.440 it seems like every team or most teams have something 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:54.120 like that going on. Logan Wilson gets bench, he requests 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:57.720 the trade in pretty clearly. You know, Bear Carter, Demetrius 0:15:57.760 --> 0:15:59.560 Knight being rookies and all that. But that's the future. 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:02.400 And of course he was bench before the Green Bay game, 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:05.880 so we'll see. I'm sure there's some teams where he 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:08.280 makes a fit. There's a fit, But I know that 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:10.560 was a big storyline this week, and I just thought 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:12.720 I just point that out, and there's no observation he 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.600 needed there. Dan, It's that time of year, we're going 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:16.200 to the trade though. 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:19.120 The one thing I'd say about Logan Wilson is that 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.880 I don't expect him to be a problem, even though 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:24.800 he has requested a trade. You know, I can't blame him. 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.680 He wants to start, He's lost his starting job. He's 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.760 only twenty nine years old, but he's not the type 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:34.320 of guy that is going to tank or be a headache. 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:37.800 You know, we remember Carlos dunlap Burn bridges on his 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:40.080 way out the door. That's not going to happen with 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:43.400 Logan Wilson. Maybe they make a deal if the right 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:45.840 offer is out there, but I don't know. It kind 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:49.120 of feels to me like it's more likely that, you know, 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:50.960 he's part of this team for the rest of this year, 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:52.280 and then maybe at the end of the year, with 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:54.240 one year left on a deal, they see if they 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:56.280 can make a trade, then all right. 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.000 He is a busy man this weekend and his partner's 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:02.000 getting inducted in the respective well the Ring of Honor 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:04.240 for Dave Lapham and the UC Hall of Fame for 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:07.679 our own Tony Pike. And he is the constant between both. 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:10.800 He is the conduit between excellence. That would be Dan Cord. 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:13.320 It all goes through your fingers, Dan, all through all 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:15.639 goes through your vocal cords. Congratulations. 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:20.320 Don't congratulate me, but congratulate them because it's well deserved. 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:23.840 Looking forward to being them for Tony's event tonight onlo 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:26.520 with the five other former Bearcats that will go into 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:29.040 the Cincinnati Sports Hall of Fame and then obviously Lap 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:31.520 and Lamar Parrish on Sunday. That's going to be awesome. 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:32.800 All right, Well you enjoy it. I know you will. 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:33.960 Danny all the best, Thanks. 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:36.240 Buddy, Thanks Tony, thanks for having me on you, sir. 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:38.399 We'll do News on the Way in just minutes on 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:41.440 the home of the best Bengals coverage and the Bearcats 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:43.399 seven hundred WLWD, Cincinnati. 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:48.440 Now. 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:52.560 A man who has entertainment reporting of coursing through his veins, 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.400 which makes them a medical offity. 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:59.000 He is ABC Will Gangs from New York. 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.399 He has a few things. What's going on movie and 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:05.160 music wise? Anyway? And Will Ganson's back from his ABC 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:08.000 Good Morning America three world tour. Well, how you doing, buddy. 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:10.639 I'm exhausted. 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:13.119 The life of a celebrity has really caught up to me, 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:13.399 you know. 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:16.000 Pretty impressive though. He's talking to me and now he's 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:19.439 doing Good Morning America and stuff, and now he's back 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:22.040 and trying to balance both. I get it because you know, 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:24.960 in this day in media umpires, we have to wear 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:27.600 a lot of hats and keep a lot of balls 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:29.920 in the air juggling. Why so I appreciate you. Let's 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:32.240 jump in with this one because I saw the trailer. 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:35.359 I like Bruce Springsteen a lot. I don't think I'm 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:38.520 a fangirl, but I love Bruce Springsteen and Jeremy Allen 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:41.240 White of Bear Fame is starring as him in the 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:43.720 new movie called Deliverabently from Nowhere. I saw the trailer 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:45.720 and when I learned he's singing, because sort of thing 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:47.439 you want to find out is does he do the 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:49.720 singing in here too? Now all these sings, he also 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:51.359 plays guitar too, doesn't he? 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:56.720 Yeah, so he you know, as he pointed out, we 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:58.520 know him from the Bear so we know he does 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:02.680 that sort of torque artists thing very very well, and 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:05.000 he is bringing that in, you. 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:06.760 Know, full forth to this movie. 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:10.840 Yes, so he is singing, He is playing instruments and stuff. 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:12.080 They do mix in a little bit. 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.840 Of Bruce's original vocals, which I think, you know, for 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:18.360 fans of Bruce Springsteen that will you know, that goes 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:21.920 a long way also. But the thing with this movie 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.160 is like I was sort of anticipating, you know, a big, 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:26.680 like bold, like feels like. 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:28.800 You're front row and a concert sort. 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:31.720 Of movie, and it's a lot more. 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:35.719 Introspective, and you know, it's Bruce working on the Nebraska album, 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:38.159 so it's after his first tour and he's sort of 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:40.639 on the brink of becoming the superstar that we know 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:43.520 he'll become, but he's dealing with a lot. 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:45.400 Of his own like ener demons and stuff as well. 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:48.480 So you know, there is great stuff for fans of 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:50.960 Bruce Springsteen, little easter eggs and stuff where you're like, oh, 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:52.880 this is where he got the inspiration for that song 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:55.720 that he'll write, you know, twenty years later or whatever. 0:19:55.840 --> 0:20:01.160 So it's in movie theaters this weekend. It's and it's 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:03.400 getting a lot of Oscar buzz already for Jeremy Allen 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:06.520 White for playing Bruce Springsteen, so you know, if you're 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:09.359 looking to see something in theaters this week, and I 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:10.800 think it's a pretty solid choice. 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:11.680 I had a good time watching. 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:14.680 The sound is amazing. I mean, he his vocals are 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:16.440 really really strong. I couldn't believe it. 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:19.480 I know, and I guess you know, he was sort 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:22.760 of worked with and hand selected by Bruce Springsteen to 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:26.120 some extent, So you know, I think when when you're 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:29.240 sort of taken in the fold in that way, you 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:31.960 better sound pretty great, right, and I think he nailed it. 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:35.439 Yeah, yeah, that's pretty cool. And you know, just kind 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:38.080 of known about Nebraska. The album itself, he like really 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:39.760 wasn't supposed to be think it was a demo. Basically 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:42.720 he's recording and just recording stuff on a on a 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:45.399 simple recorder, wasn't even a studio, and he said, now 0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:47.000 we're gonna we're going to release elect That a huge 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:48.960 gamble for the record company. And if you if you 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:51.000 know it was coming with the next album, of course 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:53.080 in eighty four would be born in the USA, and 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:54.880 a number of the songs that he wrote that would 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:57.720 have been he left off and then turned out, you know, 0:20:57.720 --> 0:21:00.600 like Glory Days, for example, is on the ultimately one 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:02.639 of the biggest albums of the eighties, if if not 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:04.439 all the time, and that's born in the USA, So 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:08.280 you see the seeds of that that thinking, and it's 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:09.400 all coming out in Nebraska. 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:12.440 Really neat exactly exactly. 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:12.760 Yeah. 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:14.840 So it's it's a really you know, it's a good, 0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:17.439 great movie for fans of Bruce and a and a 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:19.000 really great movie for people who. 0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:21.399 Don't maybe know that that much about him. 0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:23.439 How much in the is the East Street Band featured 0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:23.720 in that. 0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:29.320 It's I would say, it's more about Bruce and his 0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:34.560 like early relationships with like women and his mom and stuff, 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:38.040 and his manager is in it as well. But the band, 0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:41.040 you know, not not so much. It's really more of 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:44.800 like a yeah, more I would say, like personal and 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:48.280 interpersonal like relationship. 0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:50.119 If you expect to be like the Queen or the 0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:51.639 Elton John one, that's not the case. 0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:55.080 That's exactly correct. That's exactly correct. 0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:57.720 Yeah, gotcha. So I don't prepare to be disappointed. Is 0:21:57.720 --> 0:21:58.359 that what you're saying. 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:01.760 No, No, it's just it's a different type of movie. 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:04.440 It's you know, it's it's yeah, well it's a. 0:22:04.359 --> 0:22:06.280 Worth of twenty bucks or whatever it's going to cost 0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:07.000 me to go see. 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:09.400 This thing, I would say, yes, definitely. 0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:11.240 Is it an IMAX too? 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:15.400 I actually I don't have the answer for you there. 0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:17.320 I yeah, yeah, good question. 0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:18.879 Yeah, it's just have to see. I mean, you want 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:20.480 to see it. It's like if you like the music, 0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:22.119 you want to see in the big screen because it's 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:25.160 it's show so immersive. Well, gance in New York this morning, 0:22:25.160 --> 0:22:28.000 So deliver me from nowhere is a go I know that. 0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:31.560 Adam Brody of course that Oscar. But Kristen Bell, nobody 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:33.639 wants this. That's on Netflix right now. What's that about? 0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:36.400 Yeah, so this is season two. 0:22:36.480 --> 0:22:40.480 So season one came out back in November December, and 0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:41.560 we're already at season two. 0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:42.520 But this show sort. 0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:44.120 Of blew up in a way that nobody thought it would. 0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:46.320 It was nominated for a ton of Emmys this year, 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:49.480 Kristen Bell and Adam Brody and the show itself was 0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:52.480 nominated for Best Comedy. So this is the one that's 0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:55.240 based on a true story. She played a podcaster who's 0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:57.560 not really religious at all and ends up meeting a 0:22:57.640 --> 0:23:01.080 rabbi at a party and they end up falling for 0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:05.359 each other. So season one ended basically with them saying, 0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:07.320 you know what, let's try and make this happen. You know, 0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:12.199 despite not really fitting into each other's you know, personal lives, families, 0:23:12.480 --> 0:23:14.800 you know, work relationships are all sort of thrown into 0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:17.560 the air because of this relationship. And season two picks 0:23:17.640 --> 0:23:20.120 up with them trying to make it work, and each 0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:22.080 episode is only about half an hour. 0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:24.240 It's really sweet, really funny. 0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:27.920 The soundtrack is actually like a ton of fun as well. 0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:30.600 So this, you know, for anyone who wants to stay 0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:32.520 in and only has a little bit of time and 0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:34.920 can catch an episode here or there. It's a lot 0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:37.120 of fun this show. Nobody wants to Yeah, I know. 0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:39.359 Because when I fell in was in love with my rabbi, 0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:41.520 it was a lot more dramatic and it didn't work 0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:42.560 out right, right. 0:23:43.240 --> 0:23:45.480 Everyone can relate to falling in love with their rabbi. 0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:47.360 Yeah, it's the tale as old as time. 0:23:47.480 --> 0:23:48.040 Absolutely. 0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:48.359 Yeah. 0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:50.359 Yeah, I'm a gentle I'm not even close to Jewish, 0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:53.520 but you know, I understand what else you got. 0:23:55.000 --> 0:23:57.920 So they announced yesterday that the last episode of Stranger 0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:00.679 Things of the entire series, is going to theaters the 0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:04.480 same day that the episode starts streaming on Netflix. So 0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:07.959 for anyone who maybe forgot what happened, you know, season 0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:11.360 four of Stranger Things came out over to like. 0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:12.359 About two years ago. 0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:17.720 So I am recommending rewatching. I have been rewatching from 0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:21.879 season one all of Stranger Things, because the final season 0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:25.919 will drop about a month from now. And you know, 0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:29.240 some estimates say that there they spent sixty million dollars 0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:33.480 per episode of this last season making the show, Yeah, yeah, 0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:36.320 come to life, and so it's gonna be huge. 0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:37.400 It's gonna be epic. 0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:40.320 And it's gonna be a movie theaters, So you know, 0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:43.080 it's I have I've had such a fun time rewatching 0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:45.119 the show and reminding myself you know, why I loved it, 0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:47.640 why it's really been boundary breaking, and why Netflix has 0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:51.199 invested so much into it. So yeah, if if you 0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:53.879 have some time to kill, uh, you know, the final 0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:58.280 season will drop right before Thanksgiving, the first part of 0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:01.239 that season, so you know, have about a month if 0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:02.960 you want to rewatch the first four seasons. 0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:05.960 Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's I think the reason 0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:08.080 why and we can talk about why it's so iconic. 0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:11.160 I think just because it really captured the whole eighties 0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:14.320 aesthetic really well. It wasn't like campy or anything like that. 0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:15.679 It was it's really well. 0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:18.920 Done exactly, and even the way they fold in some 0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:22.040 sort of eighties familiar faces. Of course, Winona Ryder plays 0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:26.000 the mom, and then they have guest appearances from you know, Sean. 0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:28.320 Aston who was in the Goonies and you. 0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:30.640 Know, things like that, and then in the last season. 0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:35.120 The there will be some guest appearances as well from 0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:36.159 other eighties icons. 0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:39.120 So you know, I think it's it is it. 0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:41.040 Really does a good job with that eighties you know 0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:43.960 aesthetic and vibe and even the music you know, pays 0:25:43.960 --> 0:25:45.040 homage to that time as well. 0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:47.480 Plus it's so weird, right, you got horror and sci 0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:50.200 fi and mystery and it's a coming of age drama. 0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:52.280 You get like it's it's hitting all and normally it's 0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:55.160 way too that'd be way too confusing, but they make 0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:55.760 it work. 0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:59.960 Exactly, and parts are very funny too, and and you know, heartwarming. 0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:02.600 So yeah, it is like it blends those. 0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:05.520 Genres really really well, and it's well acted also. 0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:07.320 Yeah, and if you think about it too, I mean, 0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:09.600 this was the first season. I want to say, was 0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:13.520 it twenty fourteen, twenty somewhere in there, but it really 0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:17.199 felt like this is the one. Like the Sopranos made Hbo. 0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:19.120 This felt like this is what made Netflix. 0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:22.440 To me, I think you're right on the money with that, exactly. 0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:24.600 This was when I was like, oh, okay, like I 0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:26.760 should be paying a subscription to watch this show. 0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:30.159 Yep, right exactly. He is will Gans, ABC News multi 0:26:30.160 --> 0:26:32.280 platform guy in New York. He does it all. Go 0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:34.879 see him on GMA three at will Gans with two 0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:38.440 Wes's and deliver from Nowhere looks like the hit that 0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:40.520 people are pretty I think it's gonna do pretty well 0:26:40.520 --> 0:26:42.359 the box office. And then you got options on the 0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:44.720 small screen as well. Appreciate it. Well, we'll talk next week. 0:26:44.760 --> 0:26:47.000 Man, all right, have a great weekend. 0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:49.080 You as well. You as well, you as well. So 0:26:49.240 --> 0:26:51.359 there you go. Stranger things got that. Nobody wants this, 0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:55.840 and it's kind of like the Jets. Nobody wants us. 0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:59.200 We got that on Sunday and you see football tomorrow. 0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:01.480 So hey man, he got sports, he got stuff to do. 0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:03.359 I think I'm gonna go to the theater. It's some 0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:04.960 I don't know, maybe not this weekend. At some point 0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:06.760 I'm gonna go see Delivered Me from Nowhere. I haven't 0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:08.320 been in the theater in a long time. Like that 0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:11.120 seems to me like the one to go see because 0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:14.440 it's gonna sound great. And who isn't a Jeremy Allen 0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:19.399 White fan. I mean, if you saw Shameless, that was 0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:22.120 what he made him. Let's put it that way. He's like, woh, 0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:24.800 this guy's a great actor. And then he does the Bear, 0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:28.080 which is as good in a different way. I thought 0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:30.120 the last season wasn't as good as the previous ones. 0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:32.800 But it was still pretty good. And now he's Springsteen, 0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:34.320 So those are the things you're like, I kind of 0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:36.639 got to go see him because he is a hell 0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:38.680 of an actor. And if he's doing the singing and 0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:41.720 the guitar, and if you've seen some of the clips 0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:46.560 on social the vocals are it's incredible. It's like you 0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:48.680 think you're watching Bruce Springsteen and a lot of the 0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:51.719 facial features and gestures, he really has him down, did 0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:55.480 a really really job with it. The storyline, I'm just curious, 0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:58.280 is it two inside Baseball? Like Nebraska is not the 0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:01.840 biggest reason why they're doing I guess it's story behind it. 0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:03.919 But anyway, if you're a fan of music, he got that, 0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:06.159 we got football this weekend, we got movies, got it 0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:08.400 all going on. Let's get a time out in It's 0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:11.080 the Scott Sloane Show. In about four minutes here on 0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:15.000 seven hundred WLW will get into the NBA scandal and 0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:20.760 some observations about that, and particularly the day after the 0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:23.879 NBA season starts right by this is when the FBI 0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:28.879 decides that they're going to overshadow all of that with 0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:31.640 this scandal. I think it's an interesting timing and why 0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:33.919 we'll get into and just minutes here slowly back and 0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:39.160 forth on seven hundred WLW, seven minutes away from news 0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:41.720 on this Friday morning, seven hundred WLW is so far 0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:44.160 nice and quiet, like we like it, like we like it. 0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:48.400 Steve Gooden, who is a consul CANDI, former councole person 0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:51.280 and attorney, a little analysis on what the city just 0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:54.400 did relative to Terry Fiji, because it really leaves a 0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:57.000 lot of folks myself included scratching our heads going. I 0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:00.320 just I've never seen anything like this before where you 0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:03.960 fire someone and then decide to find the reasons why 0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:06.520 you fired her in the first place. That just ahead 0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:09.520 Bengals trying to get into even five hundred Bearcats going 0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:12.959 for seven straight. We've got lots of football this weekend. 0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:17.840 Also also also we have the scandal that just broke yesterday. 0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:21.840 So why does the FBI do this massive press conference 0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:27.400 slash purp walk yesterday afternoon, the day after the well, 0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:30.000 the as I say, at the start of the NBAC, 0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:33.440 they had twelve games on Wednesday, and of course you 0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:35.120 had the you know, a night kickoff, couple games, a 0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:36.480 couple of games and then big with a big slide 0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:38.640 full slighting. Why would they do that like opening week 0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:41.680 because it totally took away from opening tonight at the 0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:43.720 NBA basically is what it was Opening day. I guess 0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:45.840 I should say with a full slight of night games. 0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:50.440 Everyone's so excited about that, and I think it. You know, 0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:54.440 looking at you can kind of tell why. So Travis Coach, 0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:57.800 the Hall of Famer, Chauncey Billups and Miami gar Terry 0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:01.200 Rose here thirty people among thirty people, thirty four then 0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:04.840 total arrested yesterday, And this investigation has been going on 0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:09.120 for a long time in the FBI. It's Wirefrog conspiracies, 0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:14.000 money laundering. So Rosier arrested and accused of leaking confidential 0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:17.920 information about his health to people associates who used that 0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:20.640 to bet that he would underperform. So he's in a game, 0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:23.360 he said, hey, here's again, and you know he winds 0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:26.880 up leaving early, faking an injury, and they bet the 0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:30.240 underund how many points each court basically, and Chauncey Phillips, 0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:33.640 it's a whole different thing. That's Tony Soprano and the 0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:38.360 Italian mob of coosonostro, which surprises of Italian they still 0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:40.520 are still that strong, but al though, they have private 0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:43.280 table games backed by the New York Mob, and there's 0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:45.360 X ray poker tables, so I can see what the 0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:49.080 cards are, and it's that that's a whole different thing 0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:51.720 right there. And of course John D. Porter, a former 0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:55.320 NBA bench player, also accused of disclosing confidential information about 0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:57.120 his health to a better So those are three of 0:30:57.120 --> 0:31:01.160 the big ones. But I look at this and go, okay, 0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:03.240 why would you do this on that It's because the 0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:09.760 NBA already cleared Rose here essentially did their own internal investigation. 0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:13.000 I guess and said, okay, yeah, nothing to see here, 0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:15.400 and the FBI said, well, hold on just a second. 0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:17.880 So they start looking at it, and then I think, 0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:20.440 what's happening, especially under Trump, right doesn't like to be 0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:23.520 if you're the FBI, like wow, the NBA said, there's 0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:25.720 nothing to see here, and clearly there's a lot to 0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:28.920 see here. So we're going to we're going to rain 0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:32.000 on their parade. We're going to destroy opening week because 0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:35.120 this is now the big story. Like nobody's paying, you know, 0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:37.120 paying somewhat attention, but nobody cared. I cared about the 0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:38.960 NBA going Wow, what the hell's going to the NBA, 0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:42.800 I mean, a huge black guy for the league could 0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:46.080 have done this weeks ago, probably before the season, preseason whatever, 0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:49.160 but they decided to drop it this week. I think 0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:51.640 that's in in the message. I really really do that 0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:53.920 this is a lot bigger deal than the NBA. It's 0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:56.280 you know, hard to say that the NBA covers something 0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:59.000 up or look the other way. And I mean pretty clearly. 0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:01.560 If you say there's nothing to see here, everything's good, 0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:04.120 and the FBI says no, there isn't and you've got, 0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:06.560 you know, the mob involved for crying out loud and 0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:10.440 it's all tied together, that is clearly a shot across 0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:12.920 the bow of the National Basketball Association. I think the 0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:16.600 other thing too, is looking at this because now it's 0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:19.080 on trial, is the integrity of professional sports and the 0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.600 legal betting era. Right, it's like, oh, this is what happened. 0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:23.720 This is what happened. You have all these sports book 0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:26.600 and gaming sports book. See you could see this coming. Look, 0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:30.320 it's not like cheating and point shaving. All this stuff 0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:30.840 is new. 0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:32.520 It just used to. 0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:36.960 We'd still be doing this. It's not all like sports 0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:39.320 gambling would go away. You know, when you're back in college, 0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:41.840 back in the day, buddy, that what you had someone 0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:45.880 who's a bookie, you knew someone who knew somebody, Okay, 0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:48.040 and you know, if there's enough money, if it's not, 0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:51.840 Like we haven't had a long history of people trying 0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:56.000 to fix games and matches since sports began in the 0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:58.160 United States, which in the early days, right, I'm pretty 0:32:58.160 --> 0:32:59.960 sure like when they're playing that weird game where they're 0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:02.360 got a leather ox and ball and they're throwing it 0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:05.440 through the hoop on horseback with Indians, like, I'm sure 0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:09.480 somebody was betting on that, and then somebody was like 0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:11.320 fixing game, you know, boxing and all that stuff back 0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:13.360 in the day. So yeah, I don't know if I'm 0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:15.880 it's it's certainly more complextions a lot more money in it, 0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:19.720 because you're talking about one hundred and fifty billion dollars 0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:23.880 in legal bets just last year alone, huge amount of money, 0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:25.800 and somebody's going to skim some of that. I totally 0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:28.000 get it. But let's look at how they got caught 0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:31.560 for a second, So you had a better professional better 0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:34.840 I think, placed thirty wagers in less than an hour 0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:39.960 and all involving Terry Rozier. Do you remember a few 0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:43.040 years ago, and the UCEE baseball team I think You 0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:45.080 See Baseball is called No one from You See Baseball 0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:46.560 I think was charged or got in trouble for it. 0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:49.959 But there's a guy who was a great American ballpark 0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:52.200 at the sportsbook there and it was putting, as I recall, 0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:54.240 you may remember this better than I do, but I 0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:56.960 think it was spending like one hundred thousand dollars on 0:33:57.080 --> 0:34:01.320 an Alabama baseball game. And I was like Alabama, Clemson 0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:03.840 or wherever it was, and he had inside information that 0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:07.640 the pitcher would be benched. So he's betting one hundred 0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:13.280 grand on that on college baseball. So in this case, 0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:17.680 you've got a guy betting a lot of money on 0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:22.400 Terry Rozier and that's just going to set the algorithms 0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:24.480 go nuts. And it's not like they don't have people 0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:27.600 at all the sports books that are monitoring that behind 0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:30.680 the scenes and so obviously all electronics, but they're they're 0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:33.960 social media. Who's betting on what the prop bets? And 0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:35.359 do you look at this, you go, WHOA that jumps 0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:37.080 off the I mean, it's terror's here, right, So it 0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:40.920 jumps off the page. And that's where they start the investigation, 0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:42.759 like the NBA couldn't figure that we working with the 0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:47.160 sports books. That's what tells me this is why they 0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:48.919 did it when they did it. That could be wrong 0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:50.680 about that, but this is gonna be a black guy 0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:52.480 for the NBA for a long time. So as far 0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:54.560 as the integrity of professional sports go, I think you're 0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:57.120 this is going to be commonplace. I think maybe not 0:34:57.160 --> 0:34:59.040 happening all the time, but it's going to take an 0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:02.680 idiot like that, you know, like the the that Alabama 0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:07.320 guy with uc and at Great American Ballpark or this case, 0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:09.279 and every three years you're gonna have a knuckle aeat 0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:10.759 doing this or somebody trying to do this. And I'm 0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:13.680 gonna get cads can be a big story because they're 0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:17.560 so good at catching this stuff. Because again, this is 0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:19.799 not good, not good for the sports books. It makes 0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:22.080 them look really really bad. So there's a more incentive 0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:25.280 them to to make sure they're moditoring this at all times. 0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:27.399 I think it goes away. I think it's just something 0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:28.880 we're gonna live with. I don't think it's the end 0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:30.480 of sports or anything like that, like some people are 0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:32.120 making it out to be. Oh, this is what happens. Yeah, 0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:35.200 they downfall, non buying it. I really am not. We'll 0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:38.040 get a news update Steve Gooden. Next. You fire the 0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:41.520 chief and then you look for the reasons to fire hers. 0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:44.040 It's making sense to you, that makes sense to him either, 0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:46.880 and he's an attorney's ready to go. We'll talk to 0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:48.759 him next after news on the Home of the Best 0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:54.680 Bengals coverage seven hundred WLWD, Cincnat. It's a Scott's flowan 0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:57.680 show on seven hundred WLW and free everwhere you go 0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:00.560 with the iHeartRadio app. Take it's with you, asked after 0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:04.080 the show streaming. We got you covered. We got you 0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:07.560 covered on all those platforms. A mind up boggling example 0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:12.920 of ready fire aim chief Teresa Thiji placed on administrative leave, 0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:15.600 paid administrator to leave at that and an interim chief. 0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:19.759 And Adam Henny named this before the investigation into the 0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:22.719 effectiveness of our leadership as a city calls it that 0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:24.839 any of this happens. It's the city is looking for 0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:28.720 a reason to fire the chief. After they fire the chief, 0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:33.920 it just goes from bad to worse. Too ridiculous at 0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:37.080 this point with the City of Cincinnati, and it's a 0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:39.680 leader apt to ad Pierre Valscher along the city manager 0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:43.160 in just more confusion and chaos when we don't need it. 0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:45.720 Steve Goodness, here is a council candidate from a council member, 0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:50.399 attorney and charter right, and with his analysis here this morning, Steve, 0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:59.000 how are you, Steve? You there, Steve Gooden? Well wait wait, 0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:01.560 hold on, hold on, say them by let's go there 0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:03.720 we go. We got you asked you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:05.799 first day on the new job, first day on the 0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:10.480 new job. For me, there's an irony here because it's 0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:13.200 the executive branch's law enforcement. The irony is, of course, 0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:16.279 there's no due process for the chief of police. This 0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:20.160 is conviction before being charged. And on that they even' 0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:23.440 even hired a law firm. Yet, how does this make 0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:24.320 any sense legally? 0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:29.319 Well it doesn't. I mean, look, you know, I've had employees, 0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:33.320 you know, for most of my career. And look, I 0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:36.280 rule number one is if you've got the goods on somebody, 0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:39.520 you just go ahead and fire them, you know. And 0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:42.759 so the idea that here they said, well we want 0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:47.000 you to resign. The charter clearly says that once the 0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:49.600 chief has served more than six months, she can only 0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:53.279 be fired for cause. So presumably if they had any 0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:56.160 kind of cause or bad behavior on her part that 0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:58.520 had been documented, they were just going ahead and fired her, 0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:01.520 and we wouldn't have this. So now they're trying to 0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:05.920 create a ground, obviously, create grounds to fire her after 0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:08.480 the fact, after they've already sort of gone to her 0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:11.400 and asked her to resign. It is a morale killer. 0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:14.799 It's more politics that the rank and file see this. 0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:18.839 I talked to some officers yesterday who are just disgusted 0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:21.160 by how this is playing out. I mean, they're already 0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:24.400 short staff, morale was already bad. And I got to 0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:26.600 hand it to mayor and the council. They have done 0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:30.120 the impossible. They have taken a horrible situation and made 0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:32.440 it yet worse. I always thinking like, there's really no 0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:35.120 way it gets any worse. We have rampant gun violence, 0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:38.840 business is downtown, are scared in town. We literally have 0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:41.880 slats standing on Fountain Square. My offices right there was 0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:44.640 there yesterday. We don't really have a police chef. How 0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:47.799 could we make it worse? And also, you know, I've 0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:50.160 never seen a situation we're bringing a bunch of lawyers 0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:53.160 in billing by the hour, makes anything better not say that. 0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:55.640 As a lawyer who bills by the hour. It never 0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:56.560 makes things better. 0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:00.880 Here's a great example. It's terrible seem NBA scandal, the 0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:04.040 betting of the gambling scandal. Chauncey Billups. Okay, how it 0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:07.000 works all always is always I is. All of a sudden, 0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:08.719 there's a bombshell, Hey, we're having a press count. Here's 0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:11.040 what's gonna happen. It's like, we caught all these players 0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:13.440 in the gambling scheme and at the mobs involved, and 0:39:13.480 --> 0:39:15.319 you have a press conference, you lay the charges out. 0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:17.400 On the other side says, oh, we deny, we deny, 0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:22.000 we deny. Uh. That's how you don't go, Hey, by 0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:26.600 the way, uh, Chauncey, we're going to we're gonna we're 0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:28.800 gonna do this, uh, and then go and find that 0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:30.360 we're not sure we believe they did this, and now 0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:33.040 we're gonna go and investigate it. It's it's completely backwards. 0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:35.040 You don't do that. You have the charges that they 0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:38.520 make the presentation. You don't present and say we're gonna 0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:41.160 let we're Chauncey Billups, We're we're gonna suspend you. We're 0:39:41.160 --> 0:39:43.279 gonna come after, we're gonna charge you, but we're not 0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:44.560 going to tell you what it is. We've got to 0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:46.600 hire a team to do that. But we know you're 0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:49.360 guilty of something. It just it doesn't even pass the 0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:51.600 stiff test for most people. It's insane, right right. 0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:55.560 It's a fundamental, you know, violation, but just even the 0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:58.080 most basic due process on her part. She can't answer 0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:01.160 the charges because she doesn't know what they are. Now, 0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:03.680 we know from the mayor's comments that they're hanging all 0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:07.240 this on her quote and effectiveness. But what she's already 0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:12.680 telegraph very strongly is I think she acknowledges she was uneffective, okay, 0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:17.120 because of the policy she was given an instructed to do. 0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:20.560 I mean, we know that city Hall and the mayor 0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:23.360 helped elect a set of judges over in the courthouse 0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:25.799 that really didn't believe in cash bail, so they were 0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:30.200 putting gun offenders back on the streets rapidly, and that 0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:33.080 that contributed to the frustration in the police department, And 0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:35.480 that she has clearly said that she went to the 0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:38.160 mayor to try to correct the situation and he refused. 0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:43.080 We also know that this whole bizarre compliance versus enforcement 0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:46.400 thing on lower level offenses came right from the city 0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:49.520 manager and the mayor. Now I fault the chief candidly 0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:52.600 for not pushing back more on that. So they stopped writing, 0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:56.640 you know, wead tickets, stopped pursuing graffiti issues, stopped dealing 0:40:56.640 --> 0:41:00.000 with the homeless situation downtown, and over time, the failure 0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:02.880 year to prosecute or deal with these low level offenses 0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:06.479 created a sense of lawlessness that brought the real bad 0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:10.200 actors with guns downtown. So we've seen that. But calling 0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:14.359 her ineffective for because your policies were ineffective, I mean, 0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:17.839 that's ridiculous and this just isn't the way you do things. So, ok, 0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:20.040 I used to run a big law firm and there 0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:21.839 were a couple of different instances where we had young 0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:25.160 lawyers who had who had done bad things, and we 0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:27.200 did an investigation and then we went to them then 0:41:27.239 --> 0:41:29.600 laid it out and so either resign or get fired, 0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:31.680 and here are your options, and here's what we found. 0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:34.680 Unless you have some answer, that's how it works. This 0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:36.920 is they're trying to make up a reason to fire. 0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:40.160 After that takes yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And now we 0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:42.600 have a pattern of behavior, Steve Gooden, and when it's 0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:46.320 abuse of due process. Let's go back to the July 0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:49.040 street brawl where you had an individual white guy right 0:41:49.080 --> 0:41:51.080 who has started this whole thing allegedly, and then the 0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:53.840 city comes out and says, well, well, you know what, 0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:57.400 actually a minute forty six prior, they were the victim 0:41:57.440 --> 0:42:00.680 of some very extreme racial attacks and a text and 0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:03.160 this was him bass So and you know, he had 0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:05.440 the ministers crying for Whitey to be charged all this stuff, 0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:07.719 and they do that and it's actually Adam Henny, now 0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:10.719 the interim chief oddly enough, so you see there's some 0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:13.399 quid pro quote at least. And I'm not demeaning Chief 0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:15.560 Henny here. I understand it's a great cops cops cop, 0:42:16.200 --> 0:42:19.399 but again, playing the game is that now you cast 0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:22.040 dispersions on the integrity of the office, because like, if 0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:23.879 you're willing to write a ticket for something you didn't 0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:26.759 witness yourself, and the officers didn't want to get jammed up, 0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:28.440 and he said, I'll take the bullet from my officer, 0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:30.279 so to speak, and write the citation that led to 0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:34.680 the charges. It's cut from the same cloth, like okay, 0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:37.439 we're going to wait a month to charge someone, and 0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:40.000 pretty clearly it's someone who shouldn't be charged, but we're 0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:44.200 doing it because of political correctness and political expediency, just 0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:45.840 like we're doing now. We have a trend now. 0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:50.279 Right Well yeah, I mean it's just what we've done 0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:53.680 here is just they're going to just undermines the sense 0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:56.319 of fairness and of law and order in the town. 0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:57.600 It really does. 0:42:57.480 --> 0:42:59.640 Look like the mayor and the city manager can say 0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:02.040 I want this guy charged, so they go back and 0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:04.400 charge him. Whether there's evidence or not, I don't know, 0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:07.400 but certainly you had a guy who an officer who 0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:09.759 signed the charge, who was not involved in the investigation, 0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:13.000 wasn't there and hadn't interviewed the guy even apparently. And 0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:15.600 now you also have the scenario where they're saying, on 0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:18.280 these low level offenses, we don't want people charge. 0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:20.960 And how do you have a city that way? 0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:23.719 We have a charter that says our police chief and 0:43:23.760 --> 0:43:27.160 city manager is supposed to be independent above politics. They're 0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:29.720 supposed to be out there policing and do it, you know, working, 0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:32.640 going where the crime is, looking at real metrics and 0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:35.560 trying to figure out what to do. And that's what 0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:38.080 the neighborhoods are you crying about, because. 0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:38.960 I mean, I mean, we don't. 0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:42.120 Even trust I don't trust the data coming out of 0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:44.439 the police department in City Hall anymore. I think it's 0:43:44.480 --> 0:43:47.959 clearly been manipulated to make the gun violence look less. 0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:50.720 You know, from shots Boer, we're on track for twenty 0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:53.279 three thousand shots fire, but that isn't reflected in the 0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:53.919 other data. 0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:55.799 It's clear from the top, right, I mean, the two 0:43:55.840 --> 0:43:57.719 examples that game what you sided here too. It's like 0:43:57.960 --> 0:44:01.160 the mayor is deciding what justice looks like. And I'm sorry, 0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:04.680 but I wonder about those people who would support AFTAB 0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:06.880 Pericle and a Heartbeat, who are down marching at the 0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:10.360 No Kings rally. Isn't this what you're allegedly fighting against? 0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:13.439 Well, I mean, I mean. 0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:16.600 It could not be more perfect of an analogy between 0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:20.239 Donald Trump and AFTAB. I mean, it's exactly the same thing. 0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:21.960 It's just, you know, they're on different sides of the 0:44:21.960 --> 0:44:25.719 aisle politically, you know, but there is this sense on 0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:29.200 both sides that they are like busting through some of 0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:31.360 the norms you know that we have out. This is 0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:35.799 the critique people make of Donald Trump is exactly the 0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:37.960 same critique that could be made of AFTAB, which is 0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:40.279 somebody who really just doesn't plan with the rules, and 0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:42.279 I would go a step further. I mean, the thing 0:44:42.320 --> 0:44:44.600 that makes me the sickest is we've had mayors in 0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:47.000 the past who have kind of lost their way, but 0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:50.880 we've always had some diversity of thought on city Council 0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:53.640 and some people with backbone that we're willing to push back. 0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:56.759 These guys have been with maybe one exception in the 0:44:56.800 --> 0:45:00.800 last twenty four hours, no one's done anything. The old days, 0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:03.520 you know, Chris Smeatherman or a Steve Gooden or even 0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:05.879 maybe AlSi somewhe you know, or can you call someone 0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:07.799 like that would have called for a hearing right a 0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:10.959 public here and say like what happened here? They bring 0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:12.960 the chief, and they bring the city manager in and 0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:15.279 say like, hey, look, you know, with the cameras on, 0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:17.879 tell us what the hell is going on here where? 0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:18.120 You know? 0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:22.200 And they wouldn't have just accepted this nonsense day in 0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:24.359 and day out. So there's a lack of oversight from 0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:27.239 council that really really makes this even worse, because I mean, 0:45:27.320 --> 0:45:30.160 they have a role in this process. They can you know, 0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:32.520 they have the ability to shine a flashlight here and 0:45:32.560 --> 0:45:33.960 they are hiding under their desk. 0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:36.080 But I would point out that we're being told to 0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:38.600 add at nauseam from a to a peer of all 0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:41.880 on others. This is not political. She's not a political scapegoat. 0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:44.279 The election has nothing to do with the decision. The 0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:47.920 decisions we take public safeties are number one priorities. We're 0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:50.600 taking it seriously. This is not political all. As a 0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:52.600 matter of fact, she's not even fired. She's on paid 0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:56.000 administrative leave. And there's another part of the of the 0:45:56.040 --> 0:45:59.000 s absurdity Steve Gooden, is that, all right, Thigi's on 0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:02.120 paid administrator of not fired. She's had administrative leaders. She's 0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:04.480 stick in a paycheck while we investigate her over the 0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:06.440 next one. It's going to take months, apparently to solved this. 0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:12.640 Then why name a interim chief instead of an acting chief. 0:46:12.719 --> 0:46:16.600 If you're suspended, it's an acting chief, like if someone's hurt. 0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:19.640 You know, Joe Flacco is the acting starting quarterback, he 0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:23.040 is not the interim starting There's a difference in a nuance. 0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:28.359 There is interim chief not acting. They essentially have given 0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:30.440 it like, well we're done with the old chief. This 0:46:30.520 --> 0:46:32.400 is the innermundile. We find a new one. They've already 0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:34.360 stated that, and then they go back and go, well, no, 0:46:34.520 --> 0:46:35.359 she just doesn't leave. 0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:39.520 Well, you know what's so funny is he actually slipped 0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:42.120 up at one of his you know, he was sort 0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:46.759 of ambushed coming out of council chambers yesterday and I 0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:48.200 think it was Channel twelve or one of the other 0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:51.839 reporters asked him, you know some pretty tough questions. He said, well, 0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:55.120 whenever we move on and change leadership, it's a tough time. 0:46:55.160 --> 0:46:57.160 And I said, okay, so you're firing her. Oh no, 0:46:57.200 --> 0:47:00.160 I'm not saying that. You just said we're changing leadership, know, 0:47:00.640 --> 0:47:03.000 And it was like, you know, you're like you can't even. 0:47:02.880 --> 0:47:07.440 Keep your your Live Street interim in acting, so you 0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:09.319 don't even know what the adjective you need at this point. 0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:12.359 It's so comically bad in the and the sad part 0:47:12.400 --> 0:47:14.239 about this is all right, it's going to go on 0:47:14.320 --> 0:47:16.879 in for a month, okay, so put your political hat 0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:19.920 on here a second, good and from the legal one. Okay, 0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:21.600 after the election, what happens. 0:47:23.480 --> 0:47:27.040 Well, you know after the election, I mean, lou well, first, unfortunately, 0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:29.279 I see this dragging into the next year. 0:47:29.680 --> 0:47:29.919 Uh. 0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:31.640 And I mean I think number one, what the first 0:47:31.640 --> 0:47:33.439 time we got to watch for is what law firm 0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:35.799 they choose. So if they choose one of the go 0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:39.640 to law firms that have represented AFTAB and council in 0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:41.319 the past and they've gotten in trouble, we're going to 0:47:41.360 --> 0:47:45.239 know the fixes in. You know, I we're hoping to 0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:47.239 go with someone outside the area, if you have some 0:47:47.280 --> 0:47:50.920 integrity here, who might actually push back. But I wouldn't 0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:53.120 hold my breath for that. So Number one is we 0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:56.000 got to watch which law firm. If it's one of 0:47:56.000 --> 0:47:59.839 these like hyper connected democratic law firms, you know, then 0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:03.799 all bets are off as to what happens there. But 0:48:03.880 --> 0:48:06.040 I would expect us to drag on at least through 0:48:06.080 --> 0:48:09.239 the end of the year with us having a suspended 0:48:09.320 --> 0:48:11.560 chief and an interim chief and then some sort of 0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:14.239 a search. If there was any integrity here, they'd wait 0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:16.040 and see what the new council is going to look 0:48:16.120 --> 0:48:18.640 like so that they could have some input. But my 0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:20.720 guess is that there's going to be like a hurry 0:48:20.800 --> 0:48:23.120 up to try to resolve all this in December before 0:48:23.120 --> 0:48:24.880 anybody can come in and shine a light on it. 0:48:25.320 --> 0:48:27.239 How much longer is she under contract? How much as 0:48:27.280 --> 0:48:28.480 you do? How long does that last? 0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:32.040 My understanding is and I haven't read it, but my 0:48:32.120 --> 0:48:35.120 recollection is that they renew it every two years. And 0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:38.120 that is where this gets funny from a legal standpoint, 0:48:38.280 --> 0:48:40.680 is that if you recall, we have this thing called 0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:43.959 Issue five that was passed back from two thousand and five, 0:48:44.040 --> 0:48:47.080 which is deeply unpopular with the FOP and probably is 0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:50.280 ripe to be revisited. That kind of takes the chief 0:48:50.440 --> 0:48:52.920 out of some of for or most of the civil 0:48:52.960 --> 0:48:56.160 service protections. So the idea is that the Sydney Manager, 0:48:56.200 --> 0:48:58.480 with input from the mayor, actually could just fire the 0:48:58.560 --> 0:49:02.960 chief for cause. And that's in the charter, and it 0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:05.279 spells it out pretty clearly that once you're in the 0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:07.960 job six months, it's kind of a probationary period. Could 0:49:07.960 --> 0:49:10.040 be fired for any reason. After six months, they have 0:49:10.120 --> 0:49:12.880 to actually prove that you've screwed something up for cause. 0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:16.600 But they are, on top of that, have apparently been 0:49:16.640 --> 0:49:19.479 issuing these two year contracts that somehow, you know, deal 0:49:19.520 --> 0:49:22.080 with compensation and so forth, and apparently there's language in 0:49:22.120 --> 0:49:25.600 there that contradicts the Charter. So that's why she's lawyered up, 0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:27.239 and there's going to be some sort of a court 0:49:27.280 --> 0:49:30.040 battle about what her rights really are and even this 0:49:30.080 --> 0:49:31.600 is a mess. I don't know how the law department 0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:33.880 allowed this to happen where you have something in the 0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:37.080 contract that I guess the contract doesn't mention her being 0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:39.359 fired for cause, but yet the charter says she is. 0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:41.600 They're in conflict, and it's the classic sort of thing 0:49:41.600 --> 0:49:43.560 that you end up I hate to say it, having 0:49:43.640 --> 0:49:46.879 lawyers fight out in court in the fact that we're 0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:49.000 here and that we've been kind of doing business this 0:49:49.080 --> 0:49:52.279 way for years, you know, is just terrible. And again 0:49:52.320 --> 0:49:54.800 the taxpayers lose. I mean, this is going to cost 0:49:54.920 --> 0:49:57.600 every bit of a million dollars or about the salary 0:49:57.680 --> 0:50:01.160 and benefits of five to six police officers the time 0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:01.960 this is all said and. 0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:05.680 Don Yeah, he is a Steve Gooden counsel condidate, former 0:50:05.960 --> 0:50:09.040 councilman and a charter right Steve Gooden on the Ready 0:50:09.120 --> 0:50:12.960 Fire aim approach with Fiji. She is on paid administrative leave. 0:50:13.000 --> 0:50:16.319 They name an interim chief not acting interim, so there's 0:50:16.360 --> 0:50:18.359 confusion there. And now they're going to hire a law 0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:20.319 firm that could take months of them to investigate why 0:50:20.320 --> 0:50:23.720 they fired her in the first place. Yeah, that's that's 0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:26.120 real life. That's really happening in the city right now 0:50:26.120 --> 0:50:27.840 with an election happening, by the way, in just a 0:50:27.880 --> 0:50:30.440 couple of weeks, and of course everyone is saying, I 0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:32.920 have to have on down. This is not political. Is 0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:34.879 it time for us to blow everything up? The way 0:50:34.920 --> 0:50:37.400 it works because we have a very inefficient If you 0:50:37.400 --> 0:50:39.400 live in Cincinnati, been here long til you kind of 0:50:39.400 --> 0:50:42.680 pay attention to it, but our government is so inefficient. 0:50:43.000 --> 0:50:45.520 And it starts the fact there's so much overlap between 0:50:45.560 --> 0:50:49.400 Hamlin County and the City of Cincinnati in fighting for 0:50:49.480 --> 0:50:51.960 their turf. Of course you see stadium issues and such, 0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:55.440 but even within the design itself. You know, you mentioned 0:50:55.480 --> 0:50:59.120 the contentious issue five, but also how council works, how 0:50:59.120 --> 0:51:01.720 the city manager integrates and all this stuff. Because there's 0:51:01.960 --> 0:51:04.520 cover for everyone involved. Her council can go, well, we 0:51:04.600 --> 0:51:06.200 have a strong mayor in the mayor goes, well, we've 0:51:06.200 --> 0:51:08.560 got a city manager, and the city manager says, well, 0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:10.319 we've got a mayor and a council. It's like no one, 0:51:10.440 --> 0:51:12.920 there's no one. The way we've got it wired. Right now, 0:51:13.160 --> 0:51:15.920 it strikes the average person like myself, Steve Gooden, that 0:51:16.640 --> 0:51:18.400 it's wired so there's no one accountable. 0:51:20.320 --> 0:51:22.480 Well, it's wired so that you end up with an 0:51:22.480 --> 0:51:26.040 absurd result, and you know, and it would work. The 0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:29.480 current system would work. It's not perfect, but would work 0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:32.440 better if council would just step up, if we didn't 0:51:32.480 --> 0:51:34.760 have like a you know, an all a nine member 0:51:36.040 --> 0:51:39.120 politically ambitious Democratic city council who would actually step up 0:51:39.120 --> 0:51:41.480 and provide some of the oversight that they are allowed 0:51:41.520 --> 0:51:44.000 to do. But I mean, to your larger point, I 0:51:44.040 --> 0:51:46.880 have always been somebody who has been pushing for at 0:51:46.960 --> 0:51:49.600 least some form of metro government so that we might 0:51:49.640 --> 0:51:53.680 actually find some of these efficiencies. I mean, even Yahoga County, 0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:57.480 even Cleveland has gone to a limited form of metro government, 0:51:57.560 --> 0:52:02.600 Indianapolis has, Louisville has. I mean, it's it's ridiculous that 0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:05.120 we have all these turf battles. It's ridiculous that our 0:52:05.160 --> 0:52:08.080 departments don't work well together. And I mean back when 0:52:08.120 --> 0:52:10.680 I was in the prosecutors obviously as a young assistant prosecutor, 0:52:10.680 --> 0:52:14.279 back in two thousand and one, post the Timothy Thomas 0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:17.719 shooting and the riots that happened, we absolutely had a 0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:21.440 level of cooperation between the city and the county then 0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:23.200 that will be unheard of now, you know, we had 0:52:23.239 --> 0:52:26.840 Operation Vortex. Now they were doing gun and drug sweeps 0:52:26.880 --> 0:52:32.239 with CPD and sheriff's patrols and Ohio State patrol and 0:52:32.280 --> 0:52:34.960 it was wonderful and it really made a difference. But 0:52:35.120 --> 0:52:37.520 now everyone is just in their silos and they don't 0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:40.800 cooperate at all, and it's really silly. And that's something 0:52:40.840 --> 0:52:43.560 that just desperately needs some fresh thought. And I can 0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:46.520 tell you this current crew or that's not where their 0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:48.560 head is. They're just all about protecting what they have 0:52:48.760 --> 0:52:50.719 rather than trying to look at what would actually serve 0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:51.359 the public best. 0:52:51.560 --> 0:52:53.880 This is the maybe this is a catalyst for Steve. 0:52:53.920 --> 0:52:56.040 I don't know. I'm trying to be optimistic here. 0:52:56.080 --> 0:52:59.080 Well, well, I'm trying to be optimistic too, and I 0:52:59.080 --> 0:53:01.360 think another part it is and I'm hoping this is 0:53:01.400 --> 0:53:04.279 the year and the timeframe where some folks in the 0:53:04.280 --> 0:53:07.279 business community who I know have been talking for some 0:53:07.440 --> 0:53:10.400 time about metro government and substance of reforms. I know 0:53:10.440 --> 0:53:13.080 there's a working group down at the Chamber. It's very 0:53:13.120 --> 0:53:16.280 quiet that they've been looking at and studying and pushing 0:53:16.320 --> 0:53:18.600 these issues. And there's just got to come a time 0:53:18.719 --> 0:53:22.080 where we're not not just you know, the citizens, but 0:53:22.160 --> 0:53:25.200 the business community and all these other groups that kind 0:53:25.200 --> 0:53:26.960 of feed in, they have to speak up on this 0:53:27.000 --> 0:53:29.520 stuff too, I mean, because they have a right or wrong, 0:53:29.600 --> 0:53:32.560 a louder voice, and it's been very easy for them 0:53:32.600 --> 0:53:34.799 to kind of go along cynically and say, well, look, 0:53:34.800 --> 0:53:36.160 you know, I have to have very you know, he's 0:53:36.200 --> 0:53:38.720 going to win, it's a blue city, et cetera, et cetera, 0:53:39.200 --> 0:53:42.440 and just to go along to get along, and some 0:53:42.480 --> 0:53:44.239 people are going to have to stand up. I mean, 0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:47.120 you know, we've been our little group has been pretty 0:53:47.120 --> 0:53:49.839 fearless about speaking out on these issues this year. We've 0:53:49.960 --> 0:53:52.520 we've paid a price for it in terms of some 0:53:52.640 --> 0:53:57.399 lost friendships and broken business relationships. But that's fine. I mean, 0:53:57.440 --> 0:54:00.600 that's what it takes. We need more people to speak 0:54:00.680 --> 0:54:04.319 up and say this isn't working, we're not happy, We're 0:54:04.320 --> 0:54:07.040 not going to go along to get along. We need 0:54:07.160 --> 0:54:10.359 real substance of change, just at every step of the way. 0:54:10.560 --> 0:54:13.279 And it's just going to take some political courage and 0:54:13.360 --> 0:54:16.760 some personal courage, rankly, because you know, in this world 0:54:16.880 --> 0:54:20.480 of lobbyists and nonprofits and the people that really have 0:54:20.560 --> 0:54:22.439 a lot of voices at city hall, there's a lot 0:54:22.480 --> 0:54:25.279 of personal relationships and you have to be willing to 0:54:26.080 --> 0:54:27.520 just step on those at times if you're going to 0:54:27.520 --> 0:54:28.000 do the right thing. 0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:30.319 Gotch all right, he's a consul kendidate, Steve Gooden. We'll 0:54:30.360 --> 0:54:32.840 see if this enacts any change. Probably not with the mayor, 0:54:33.000 --> 0:54:35.600 but I, you know, ask others about the trickle down here, 0:54:35.600 --> 0:54:37.200 and I think it's I would think it's going to 0:54:37.200 --> 0:54:39.680 be substantial that somebody's going to pay for all this 0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:42.560 ineptitude that's happening at the hand of Aftab and cheer 0:54:42.600 --> 0:54:45.200 along and forts. It's probably going to be some decent 0:54:45.200 --> 0:54:46.960 people on console for that matter. We'll see how it 0:54:46.960 --> 0:54:50.000 shakes out. Steve, all the best, and maybe you're part 0:54:50.000 --> 0:54:52.279 of that change hopefully and can bring some of these 0:54:52.280 --> 0:54:55.200 ideas to fruition. All the best, man, have a great weekend. 0:54:55.239 --> 0:54:58.120 Thanks you two, take care, take care. We got to 0:54:58.120 --> 0:55:00.319 get the news and we're in return we have fun 0:55:00.320 --> 0:55:02.440 because it's Friday. A little heavy for a Friday. I apologize. 0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:06.600 But the insanity what's happening in the city is it's unprecedented. 0:55:06.600 --> 0:55:09.520 It really really is. Austin Elmore from ESPN fifteen thirty 0:55:09.560 --> 0:55:12.160 jumps in. Next. We'll talk football, football, and more football, 0:55:12.160 --> 0:55:15.480 plus the NBA scandal the latest on that next seven 0:55:15.560 --> 0:55:21.120 hundred w W Scott Fund show. The music means one thing, 0:55:23.400 --> 0:55:26.200 orange synthesizers in Austin, olmore. That's what I think about 0:55:26.200 --> 0:55:29.080 when I hear this seas Austin lo from ESPN fifteen thirty. Yeah, 0:55:29.480 --> 0:55:32.920 since he three sixty is the show Tony Pike not anymore. 0:55:32.960 --> 0:55:35.440 It's not since he three sixty anymore. Wait, because he 0:55:35.560 --> 0:55:38.080 was fired for a week. Now we it's Tony Pikes 0:55:38.120 --> 0:55:40.480 since he three sixty. Oh, Tony, that's the name of 0:55:40.480 --> 0:55:43.480 the show. How do you feel about being now relegated 0:55:43.520 --> 0:55:45.120 the fifth wheel and still the second. 0:55:45.200 --> 0:55:49.160 My exact words to management were, I'm pissed about this. Yeah, 0:55:49.200 --> 0:55:53.120 and they said life's not fair. That's what they told you. Yeah, 0:55:53.200 --> 0:55:59.000 Oh okay, good, Well guess what. They're not wrong. You're 0:55:59.120 --> 0:56:01.760 you're on You're right now, You're on this show on LW. 0:56:04.600 --> 0:56:06.839 And Tony's not about that. 0:56:08.600 --> 0:56:10.719 On the other hand, he's going to be inducted into 0:56:10.680 --> 0:56:12.800 the UC Hall of Fame later today. 0:56:12.960 --> 0:56:13.239 I know. 0:56:13.320 --> 0:56:15.239 I am looking forward to that. It's going to before it. 0:56:15.280 --> 0:56:17.399 I'll have later out of the show to talk. It's 0:56:17.400 --> 0:56:19.440 a great weekend though, because like the Pike's doing that 0:56:19.520 --> 0:56:21.680 and you've got lap going in it's it's awesome. 0:56:22.000 --> 0:56:23.759 And the weather it looks like it's going to be 0:56:23.760 --> 0:56:26.120 pretty good. I love a four o'clock start at Nippert. 0:56:26.160 --> 0:56:29.319 That's going to be beautiful home come up against Baylor. Yeah, 0:56:29.360 --> 0:56:31.520 it's it's gonna be a fun weekend. I have a 0:56:31.560 --> 0:56:34.479 hankering to go to the Bengals game. I don't know why, 0:56:34.560 --> 0:56:36.279 but like, I really just want to go to it. 0:56:36.320 --> 0:56:38.320 You know, I know why. You just expect it to 0:56:38.360 --> 0:56:40.719 be a beatdown. No, I don't, No, I don't. I 0:56:40.760 --> 0:56:42.919 don't expect that. Well, let's jump into that. Let's start 0:56:42.920 --> 0:56:44.720 before we get into all that stuff. First of all, 0:56:45.040 --> 0:56:48.680 reaction to the NBA scandal yesterday. I'll give you my 0:56:48.840 --> 0:56:51.600 take whatever that might be on it. But I'm curious 0:56:51.680 --> 0:56:54.160 this thing holds it the and I've just talked about 0:56:54.160 --> 0:56:56.680 this to me, it's not that it broke, it's when. 0:56:56.480 --> 0:57:00.440 It broke, Yeah, right after the start of the season, correct, 0:57:00.520 --> 0:57:03.560 like the day after it overshadowed Opening Day basically. 0:57:03.800 --> 0:57:06.240 Well, and I think what we've learned so far already 0:57:06.320 --> 0:57:08.759 is that the NBA knew about this and swept it 0:57:08.840 --> 0:57:09.399 under the rug. 0:57:09.480 --> 0:57:11.759 And that tells me the Trump administration said watch this, 0:57:12.000 --> 0:57:14.560 we're going to ruin opening week. Maybe because it's been 0:57:14.600 --> 0:57:17.000 going on for years, why do it that day? Well, 0:57:17.440 --> 0:57:18.000 I don't know. 0:57:18.640 --> 0:57:21.920 And obviously there's this belief that Gilbert Arenas, who was 0:57:22.400 --> 0:57:26.320 the first arrest in this, snitched on everybody back in July. 0:57:27.040 --> 0:57:29.200 And so you could say that, Okay, well, over the 0:57:29.280 --> 0:57:31.800 last couple of months, they've been getting their p's and 0:57:31.880 --> 0:57:34.200 q's in order and getting this case strong so that 0:57:34.240 --> 0:57:36.800 they can go and you know, do this whole thing. Ye, 0:57:37.240 --> 0:57:39.720 Or you can say they knew this whole time what 0:57:39.840 --> 0:57:41.200 was going to happen, and so we're going to do 0:57:41.240 --> 0:57:42.120 it to ruin the NBA. 0:57:42.640 --> 0:57:43.000 Maybe. 0:57:43.040 --> 0:57:45.360 So I don't know that it matters that much as 0:57:45.440 --> 0:57:47.920 much as the truth matters here, and the truth is 0:57:47.960 --> 0:57:51.320 that the NBA has a gambling problem. This is not 0:57:51.440 --> 0:57:54.960 the first time that this has happened. And you know, 0:57:55.400 --> 0:57:58.400 you don't see this issue in the NFL. Nope, you've 0:57:58.440 --> 0:58:00.720 started to see it a little bit and Made League Baseball. 0:58:00.840 --> 0:58:03.360 You don't see it in hockey. You haven't seen it 0:58:03.400 --> 0:58:06.520 at the college level to this point. The NBA has 0:58:06.560 --> 0:58:09.000 an issue specifically with this, and I think part of 0:58:09.040 --> 0:58:11.919 it is you play eighty two games. There's so many 0:58:11.960 --> 0:58:15.280 singular prop bets, there's so many different ways to manipulate it. 0:58:15.320 --> 0:58:18.160 But the sports books know, and the sports books knew 0:58:18.160 --> 0:58:22.160 about Terry Rozier right away, and the NBA came up 0:58:22.200 --> 0:58:25.040 with this fake injury and he stopped playing, and they 0:58:25.120 --> 0:58:26.880 knew about it and swept it under the rug. Come 0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:29.080 to find out, it goes deeper with ties to a 0:58:29.120 --> 0:58:33.120 crime family and high stakes poker games and these elite 0:58:33.200 --> 0:58:38.160 level boards and sunglasses in a car table X ray table. 0:58:39.680 --> 0:58:45.800 I'm going to Watson's like, it goes so deep, and 0:58:46.480 --> 0:58:49.360 it's just it's not a good thing for the NBA. 0:58:49.640 --> 0:58:52.560 It's not. And here's that. And that's why I think 0:58:52.680 --> 0:58:55.960 is like the NBA did investigation on Rogier, right, It's like, oh, 0:58:56.000 --> 0:58:57.600 it had nothing to see here, And then in the 0:58:57.640 --> 0:59:00.520 FBI's probably saying they're like, yeah, no, the FBI is 0:59:00.560 --> 0:59:03.120 like did they were they incompetent an investigation or did 0:59:03.120 --> 0:59:05.160 they just simply go, hey, man, the money's rolling in. 0:59:05.280 --> 0:59:07.560 We don't want to we don't need controversy. And I 0:59:07.600 --> 0:59:10.560 think that's why they did this the day after in 0:59:10.560 --> 0:59:13.720 an overshadowed opening week. It took all the steam out 0:59:13.760 --> 0:59:15.200 of that engine. That the big build up for the 0:59:15.280 --> 0:59:18.120 NBA season, and I think that was to send a message. 0:59:17.720 --> 0:59:20.240 And politics aside, I have no problem with that because 0:59:20.240 --> 0:59:22.840 there is no place I love the NBA. I watched 0:59:22.880 --> 0:59:25.800 the NBA. There's no place for that. And you've got 0:59:25.840 --> 0:59:27.240 to get it buttoned up. This is one of the 0:59:27.240 --> 0:59:30.200 concerns that people had from the very beginning. So the 0:59:30.320 --> 0:59:32.920 NBA is I'm sure feeling the pressure from the sports 0:59:32.920 --> 0:59:35.200 books in and of itself, and they're probably like, Hey, 0:59:35.440 --> 0:59:37.240 aren't you gonna do anything about this? And they're like, no, 0:59:37.360 --> 0:59:40.800 we're good. Well it's like, hello, you're messing with our business. 0:59:40.920 --> 0:59:42.720 So then you get the FBI involved. I'm sure the 0:59:42.760 --> 0:59:45.440 other leagues are not happy with the NBA two no, 0:59:45.600 --> 0:59:48.439 because now doubt starts to creep into everything that had Yeah. 0:59:48.480 --> 0:59:50.280 Well, and I think the other element is people are 0:59:50.280 --> 0:59:52.760 making this is the in the integrity of sports with 0:59:52.880 --> 0:59:55.680 gambling and college like you've always had that, you're still 0:59:55.680 --> 0:59:58.160 gonna have it. And look at how he got caught right, 0:59:58.200 --> 1:00:00.760 it was it was a professional gambler that's putting all 1:00:00.760 --> 1:00:04.360 this money in Rogier, that basically betting the under knowing 1:00:04.360 --> 1:00:06.400 that he was going to leave the game, and it 1:00:06.520 --> 1:00:08.800 set off all these signals are off of the sports 1:00:08.800 --> 1:00:11.400 books and kind of like remember the UC scandal, what 1:00:11.520 --> 1:00:14.280 you see was named in it with the Alabama baseball coach. 1:00:14.360 --> 1:00:16.360 Sure that happened the summer at GABP, I was just 1:00:16.400 --> 1:00:18.080 talking about that going it's the same thing. Well, like 1:00:18.240 --> 1:00:21.360 this guy put one hundred thousand dollars on an Alabama 1:00:21.400 --> 1:00:23.919 baseball game for the picture for them to know because 1:00:23.920 --> 1:00:25.960 they knew the starting pitcher was gonna get bench. It's like, 1:00:26.240 --> 1:00:28.160 it's what else is new? 1:00:28.280 --> 1:00:28.520 Right? 1:00:28.600 --> 1:00:31.440 So anyway, let's move on to football. You see Tony 1:00:31.440 --> 1:00:34.880 Pike Day at at Nipperts Stadium. It's home coming And 1:00:34.960 --> 1:00:36.840 of course normally we talk about Baylor, we think about 1:00:36.840 --> 1:00:40.000 the NCAA tournament and basketball, not so much with football. 1:00:40.320 --> 1:00:42.360 I will say though, that you look at their record 1:00:42.400 --> 1:00:43.960 and you look it up. They're still putting up with 1:00:44.000 --> 1:00:47.280 thirty six points, so you know, and UC's defense is 1:00:47.440 --> 1:00:50.640 certainly not the best it's ever been. High scoring game. 1:00:50.680 --> 1:00:53.400 You think on something, I think you see defenses a 1:00:53.480 --> 1:00:57.200 work in progress, and they're an entirely different defense without 1:00:57.240 --> 1:01:00.160 Dante Corleone on the field, and they have to do 1:01:00.160 --> 1:01:03.280 a better job of adjusting because teams are taking advantage 1:01:03.280 --> 1:01:05.360 of that defense when he's not on the field. And 1:01:05.680 --> 1:01:08.400 Baylor specifically as one of the best passing offenses in 1:01:08.440 --> 1:01:11.720 the NFL or in the in the country in college football. 1:01:11.760 --> 1:01:14.680 So they are going to try to air it out. 1:01:14.720 --> 1:01:16.880 They're gonna try to use play action, They're gonna try 1:01:16.920 --> 1:01:19.800 to get those linebackers out of position, and it's not 1:01:19.920 --> 1:01:25.160 it's gonna be a challenge for you. Sid Brendan Sowersby 1:01:25.240 --> 1:01:27.280 is playing like one of the best quarterbacks in the 1:01:27.280 --> 1:01:30.400 country eighteen to one touchdown to interception ratio. He's been 1:01:30.440 --> 1:01:33.520 able to move the ball with his feet outside the pocket. 1:01:33.560 --> 1:01:35.439 He's finally got weapons that he can get the ball 1:01:35.480 --> 1:01:38.600 to on the outside. They're they're playing as good as 1:01:38.640 --> 1:01:41.240 they have under Scott's Saderfield all together. I think their 1:01:41.240 --> 1:01:44.360 special teams has been pretty solid as well. So Bearcats 1:01:44.400 --> 1:01:48.400 are favored. I expect them to win. And yeah, it's 1:01:48.400 --> 1:01:50.240 gonna be a fun weekend with Tony going into the 1:01:50.240 --> 1:01:52.560 Hall of Fame tonight and a few others and they're 1:01:52.560 --> 1:01:55.760 all being honored and there's a big parade tomorrow before 1:01:55.800 --> 1:01:57.480 the game as well. That Tony's gonna be the Grand 1:01:57.520 --> 1:02:02.120 Marshall there taking trying three day, right, it's in front 1:02:02.120 --> 1:02:08.560 of the giant inflatable, real size Tony Pike head. Well, 1:02:08.720 --> 1:02:09.960 I don't know if they make them that big. 1:02:11.160 --> 1:02:11.280 Uh. 1:02:11.400 --> 1:02:14.320 And speaking of honoring people, are Tony Pike and our 1:02:14.400 --> 1:02:16.480 Dave Lapham gets it on Sunday a ring of honor 1:02:17.920 --> 1:02:19.680 and the three and four Bengals trying to get to 1:02:19.680 --> 1:02:22.640 an even five hundred six and a half point favorites 1:02:23.000 --> 1:02:25.240 the dog of the league, the New York Football Jets 1:02:25.320 --> 1:02:28.160 are in with their oh to seven record, and you know, 1:02:28.240 --> 1:02:29.720 you look at it on page it's a it's a 1:02:29.760 --> 1:02:33.040 total mismatch, especially considering the injuries that a bad Jets 1:02:33.080 --> 1:02:34.040 team has on top of this. 1:02:34.640 --> 1:02:34.760 Uh. 1:02:34.840 --> 1:02:37.640 But nonetheless it's still an seven team. It's cornering an 1:02:37.760 --> 1:02:40.400 injured dog, so to speak. You got to watch out. 1:02:40.880 --> 1:02:41.080 Yeah. 1:02:41.200 --> 1:02:44.000 And historically the Bengals, coming off of the quote unquote 1:02:44.040 --> 1:02:46.600 many bye, are not very good. I believe they've lost 1:02:46.720 --> 1:02:50.560 nine straight games following a Thursday game over the last 1:02:50.600 --> 1:02:53.520 ten seasons. Now, in their last ten Thursday games, they're 1:02:53.520 --> 1:02:55.160 six and four, So they've been good at that, but 1:02:55.240 --> 1:02:57.240 they've almost always followed it up with the loss. They 1:02:57.320 --> 1:03:00.200 have to avoid that against the Jets on Sunday. My 1:03:00.240 --> 1:03:02.680 biggest issue with the Bengals right now is, even if 1:03:02.720 --> 1:03:04.720 the Jets are hurt, and even if they're zero to seven, 1:03:04.760 --> 1:03:06.520 and even if you don't know who their quarterback is, 1:03:07.160 --> 1:03:11.200 if you don't tackle, you will get beat. Like their 1:03:11.280 --> 1:03:13.160 defense is good enough to keep them in the game 1:03:13.520 --> 1:03:16.480 even with the injuries, but you have got to get 1:03:16.720 --> 1:03:20.640 your defense off the field. If you're the Bengals. What 1:03:20.760 --> 1:03:22.560 are the three biggest issues with the Bengals. They have 1:03:22.640 --> 1:03:25.200 a bad offensive line, they have a bad defensive line, 1:03:25.960 --> 1:03:28.960 and they can't tackle. It doesn't matter who you play 1:03:29.040 --> 1:03:31.920 in the National Football League. Those three things will get 1:03:32.000 --> 1:03:32.400 you beat. 1:03:32.520 --> 1:03:32.760 Got it? 1:03:32.960 --> 1:03:35.800 So the offensive line trending in the right direction. Defensive 1:03:35.840 --> 1:03:38.080 line you think will be better with Trey hendrickson coming back. 1:03:38.400 --> 1:03:40.680 You have got to tackle or you will lose. You 1:03:40.800 --> 1:03:43.760 can't overlook this game. You can't start looking ahead into Chicago. 1:03:44.240 --> 1:03:46.480 You can't have a hangover after you beat the Steelers 1:03:46.480 --> 1:03:49.200 on a Thursday night. Hopefully a normal week with the 1:03:49.240 --> 1:03:51.760 Bengals offense and with Joe Flacco and maybe a little 1:03:51.760 --> 1:03:53.840 bit of clarity on what this defense wants to do, 1:03:53.960 --> 1:03:56.080 and if they're a little healthier, can mean that the 1:03:56.120 --> 1:03:58.440 Bengals start to turn it in the right direction. But 1:03:59.080 --> 1:04:02.480 those things, especially the tackling the last two weeks nineteen 1:04:02.600 --> 1:04:05.800 misstackles against the Green Bay Packers, double digits again against 1:04:05.800 --> 1:04:10.200 the Pittsburgh Steelers. That cannot happen. That is a red 1:04:10.240 --> 1:04:11.080 flag for the Bengals. 1:04:11.160 --> 1:04:13.560 Cray is limited with the hip, does it make sense 1:04:13.640 --> 1:04:17.000 that you could still win this game with Samara and there? 1:04:17.000 --> 1:04:19.160 I mean, granted, now he's not played up to where 1:04:19.200 --> 1:04:21.160 he should be or expected being even by those admission 1:04:21.200 --> 1:04:23.360 he hasn't either, But it feels to me, with the 1:04:23.480 --> 1:04:26.040 limited weapons that they have, and now Tyrod Taylor, who's 1:04:26.040 --> 1:04:27.600 going to be a pocket, it seems to me like 1:04:27.960 --> 1:04:29.880 you can win without Trey being in there. Yeah, you 1:04:29.880 --> 1:04:32.280 would think so, or if this makes sense to rest 1:04:32.360 --> 1:04:34.640 him again, I don't know that I would do that. 1:04:35.200 --> 1:04:37.920 Trey will want to play and part of his contract 1:04:38.640 --> 1:04:42.440 involves playtime, so him missing one game, he's not going 1:04:42.520 --> 1:04:45.560 to want to do that. But at the bare minimum, 1:04:45.680 --> 1:04:47.800 I would like to see him in at pass rushing downs, 1:04:47.920 --> 1:04:50.200 you know, much like the Packers at the beginning of 1:04:50.240 --> 1:04:52.880 the season with Michael Parsons he had that back injury. 1:04:52.960 --> 1:04:55.160 He only really came out on the field on third downs, 1:04:55.200 --> 1:04:57.720 third and five or longer. And so maybe we'll see 1:04:57.760 --> 1:05:00.880 that type of thing from Trey Hendrickson. Do that workload 1:05:00.920 --> 1:05:04.520 a little bit, because Shamar needs more reps and I 1:05:04.640 --> 1:05:06.200 give him a little bit of grace coming off the 1:05:06.200 --> 1:05:09.560 ankle injury against the Steelers last week, but he's got 1:05:09.640 --> 1:05:10.680 to start making some noise. 1:05:10.960 --> 1:05:12.040 Nobody else really is now. 1:05:12.080 --> 1:05:15.320 I will say this, Joseph Osai has really ticked up 1:05:15.360 --> 1:05:17.360 over the last couple of games. He's starting to trend 1:05:17.360 --> 1:05:19.520 in the right direction. One of the league leaders in 1:05:19.600 --> 1:05:22.840 pressures right now. So if Osai can stay consistent much 1:05:22.920 --> 1:05:24.960 like he was the final five games of last year 1:05:25.480 --> 1:05:27.920 with Trey, with Shamar, you might start to have something. 1:05:27.960 --> 1:05:29.760 You're gonna have to run game. I have a run game. Mean, 1:05:29.840 --> 1:05:32.400 Chase Brown put up ridiculous numbers last week. Didn't No 1:05:32.440 --> 1:05:34.120 one saw that comings They've been so bad all year 1:05:34.400 --> 1:05:37.200 and then just absolutely flashes. You probably don't have to 1:05:37.240 --> 1:05:40.040 put that kind of performance in simply because mentioned the 1:05:40.120 --> 1:05:42.160 injury bug. I was kind of looking forward to seeing 1:05:42.240 --> 1:05:45.720 Sauce against our number ones, right Chase On twenty twenty two. 1:05:45.720 --> 1:05:47.120 When he came in the league. It's like, here, do 1:05:47.200 --> 1:05:49.680 you see guy homecoming weekend? It'd be a great story. 1:05:50.040 --> 1:05:52.320 He comes in, he shut Chase down last time, while 1:05:52.360 --> 1:05:54.400 he do it again this week, so he is out. 1:05:56.400 --> 1:05:59.360 You look at their secondary, the guy I will forget 1:05:59.400 --> 1:06:04.360 it was name other corner he's got to I think 1:06:04.400 --> 1:06:06.640 he's gonna play. They're so banged up. But the point 1:06:06.720 --> 1:06:08.000 is you're just gonna air the ball out. I mean, 1:06:08.000 --> 1:06:09.960 you can need a little run game to balance with Flacco, 1:06:10.040 --> 1:06:12.120 but yeah, he's just gonna pass them, cut them up. 1:06:12.240 --> 1:06:14.240 I would expect the Bengals to try to keep it 1:06:14.400 --> 1:06:17.320 going with that that run game that they found against Pittsburgh. 1:06:17.360 --> 1:06:19.040 I think they want to really double down on that 1:06:19.200 --> 1:06:21.800 and establish that because you can see how that opens 1:06:21.880 --> 1:06:24.200 up the rest of the offense. And the Bengals had 1:06:24.200 --> 1:06:27.200 a big tendency breaker against the Steelers, which is when 1:06:27.240 --> 1:06:29.400 they went under center, they did a couple I think 1:06:29.560 --> 1:06:33.919 four straight drop back passes, which means when they're under center, 1:06:34.280 --> 1:06:36.400 previously it was either they run the ball or they 1:06:36.440 --> 1:06:39.960 play action. Now two step, three step drop ball out 1:06:40.000 --> 1:06:41.920 of the hands of Joe Flacco, defenses had to be 1:06:42.000 --> 1:06:44.680 prepared for that. That opens up parts of the offense 1:06:44.720 --> 1:06:47.280 as well, and it especially opens up parts of that 1:06:47.400 --> 1:06:50.120 run game. I saw some creativity in that run game. 1:06:50.200 --> 1:06:53.080 I saw some execution. Dalton Reisner at left guard. Don't 1:06:53.080 --> 1:06:54.800 know if he's going to start. Zach Taylor hasn't said 1:06:56.160 --> 1:06:59.160 guards are going to be but Dalton Reisner over the 1:06:59.200 --> 1:07:02.200 course of his career has played left guard more and 1:07:02.360 --> 1:07:04.520 he looked a lot more comfortable there against the Pittsburgh 1:07:06.280 --> 1:07:09.480 correct So I could see Zach Taylor saying, Okay, I'm 1:07:09.520 --> 1:07:11.800 gonna stick with what's working here. If we're able to 1:07:11.880 --> 1:07:15.200 run the ball effectively with this grouping, let's stick with 1:07:15.320 --> 1:07:16.200 that and see. 1:07:16.040 --> 1:07:16.520 How it goes. 1:07:16.600 --> 1:07:18.280 Now, are they do they have a short leash like 1:07:18.400 --> 1:07:21.760 Jalen Rivers who is struggling in pass protection, maybe especially 1:07:21.800 --> 1:07:23.680 if there's a situation where the Bengals have to throw 1:07:23.720 --> 1:07:27.040 the ball. But I think Zach will lean into that 1:07:27.200 --> 1:07:30.400 run game to try to really get some confidence and 1:07:30.480 --> 1:07:33.919 some consistency in that unit going, and then that will 1:07:33.960 --> 1:07:36.440 open up the pass game, much like you saw against. 1:07:36.240 --> 1:07:39.440 Yea and Dylan Fairschaud and always hurt coming back off 1:07:39.520 --> 1:07:41.960 that and what what pieces he puts together for for 1:07:42.160 --> 1:07:43.960 this Jets game, but he has options there as they 1:07:44.000 --> 1:07:45.920 start to hopefully it looks like they're turning the corner. 1:07:46.600 --> 1:07:48.280 But the Jets, you know, as a bad team to 1:07:48.320 --> 1:07:50.480 begin with, you got you got Tyrod Taylor in and 1:07:50.560 --> 1:07:52.680 there you don't have to worry about Justin Field's running 1:07:52.680 --> 1:07:54.560 all over you. Tyrod's gonna be a pocket guy at 1:07:54.560 --> 1:07:56.600 this state of the game. Joe Flacco gets to play 1:07:56.600 --> 1:08:01.560 another old quarterback. They were teammates. It's fourteen years ago. 1:08:01.560 --> 1:08:04.560 It's insane in twenty eleven to Rod Taylor and Joe 1:08:04.600 --> 1:08:07.880 Flacco were teammates with the Baltimore Ravens. Isn't that crazy 1:08:08.000 --> 1:08:10.760 that they're still doing it? Yeah, they really are. Yeah, 1:08:10.960 --> 1:08:12.160 but you don't want to look past it. They're ow 1:08:12.200 --> 1:08:14.520 and seven like you should die. I think the message 1:08:14.560 --> 1:08:17.880 from from Zach Taylor should be this week, Hey, all 1:08:17.960 --> 1:08:20.240 the crap that we've went to went through, and we're 1:08:20.240 --> 1:08:22.040 going to get a forty year old quarterback and Joe 1:08:22.080 --> 1:08:24.400 Burrow is still hurt. We still have a chance to 1:08:24.479 --> 1:08:26.960 be five hundred and two and zero in our division 1:08:27.600 --> 1:08:29.800 at home over the next couple of weeks, and we 1:08:29.880 --> 1:08:31.840 can get the five hundred before the bye. That should 1:08:31.880 --> 1:08:34.120 be the message. Everything you want is still right in 1:08:34.200 --> 1:08:36.800 front of you. And I think the confidence of going 1:08:36.880 --> 1:08:39.840 and beating the Pittsburgh Steelers, the way that they played 1:08:39.880 --> 1:08:42.240 in that second half against Green Bay, I think this 1:08:42.400 --> 1:08:44.720 team has more confidence now than they've had at any 1:08:44.800 --> 1:08:47.800 point since Burrow got hurt, and that I think is 1:08:47.880 --> 1:08:49.880 a good thing. But you just want to avoid that 1:08:50.040 --> 1:08:52.320 hangover and say, okay, listen, you got to get to 1:08:52.439 --> 1:08:54.040 four and four so that you have a chance to 1:08:54.080 --> 1:08:56.080 get to five and four before the bid. Chicago is 1:08:56.080 --> 1:08:57.600 a good team. We'll talk about that next week. That 1:08:57.640 --> 1:09:01.080 could but that's the thing is you're gonna play a 1:09:01.080 --> 1:09:02.560 lot of good teams between now and the end of 1:09:02.560 --> 1:09:05.080 the season. There's a stretch there with Buffalo and Baltimore 1:09:05.160 --> 1:09:08.240 twice and New England is really coming on strong. So 1:09:08.640 --> 1:09:11.759 these games are very, very very important if you're continuing 1:09:11.800 --> 1:09:13.479 to try to buy some time for Joe Burrow. 1:09:13.520 --> 1:09:15.680 We're also heading close to the trade deadline, and I 1:09:15.760 --> 1:09:17.519 you know, bring up the Logan Wilson thing and every 1:09:17.600 --> 1:09:20.040 year you have teams at and I get it, man, 1:09:20.080 --> 1:09:22.400 you know, here's a guy, he's what is late twenties 1:09:22.439 --> 1:09:25.120 twenty nine, I think, and he wants to play, and 1:09:25.520 --> 1:09:27.200 they got rookies in there, he's not playing, and so 1:09:27.360 --> 1:09:29.400 he had played. They sat him at Green Bay last week, 1:09:29.479 --> 1:09:32.000 and you're looking for a new home, So you know, 1:09:32.400 --> 1:09:34.000 I know a lot has been made. I don't think 1:09:34.040 --> 1:09:36.320 that's controversial. I think that's just the NFL and he'll 1:09:36.400 --> 1:09:37.080 end up somewhere else. 1:09:37.360 --> 1:09:38.720 Yeah, there's a lot of guys that have asked for 1:09:38.800 --> 1:09:42.080 trades over the last couple of years with the Bengals, 1:09:42.120 --> 1:09:44.080 and none of them have gotten traded. So I don't 1:09:44.120 --> 1:09:46.599 know that it means all that much. It's a smart 1:09:46.680 --> 1:09:48.800 move for him because you're two weeks out of the 1:09:48.800 --> 1:09:51.840 trade deadline and they clearly don't plan on playing you 1:09:51.960 --> 1:09:55.240 a significant amount. And there are some linebacker needy teams 1:09:55.280 --> 1:09:57.960 out there, the Dallas Cowboys, the forty nine ers. You 1:09:58.040 --> 1:09:59.640 obviously think of the fit of him and Lou in 1:09:59.680 --> 1:10:03.040 a room in Indianapolis. There are some other teams out 1:10:03.080 --> 1:10:05.280 there that, Okay, they might pick up the phone and 1:10:05.360 --> 1:10:08.000 call for Logan Wilson, But the Bengals, as far as 1:10:08.040 --> 1:10:10.479 I'm concerned, the depth at that position is still a 1:10:10.600 --> 1:10:13.519 major issue. You know, outside of Logan Wilson. It's Shaka 1:10:13.600 --> 1:10:16.600 Hayward and Orrin Burks, and you don't really want to 1:10:16.640 --> 1:10:18.360 have to turn to those guys in the biggest moments. 1:10:18.439 --> 1:10:22.639 Austin Elmore today ESPN fifteenth thirty, Tony Pike, since three 1:10:22.880 --> 1:10:24.840 Tony Pikes, since he three to sixty. Now I'm just 1:10:24.840 --> 1:10:26.479 going to call it since e three six. Thanks man, 1:10:26.560 --> 1:10:29.479 you got it starring Austin Elmore. Yeah, today at noon, 1:10:29.560 --> 1:10:32.160 my guy, the home of the best Bengals coverage seven 1:10:32.240 --> 1:10:36.639 hundred WW Cincinnati, It's got a flum show on seven 1:10:36.720 --> 1:10:41.360 hundred W ALWDY. The National Football League it is a monster, 1:10:41.520 --> 1:10:44.920 and that I think really diminishes what it is. I 1:10:45.000 --> 1:10:47.120 wish I could come up with a better adjective because 1:10:47.960 --> 1:10:49.559 I think about it. You know, yeah, how big soccer 1:10:49.680 --> 1:10:52.960 is in racing and tennis, and the NFL generates more 1:10:53.040 --> 1:10:55.320 revenue than any other league in the world, and it's 1:10:55.520 --> 1:10:58.479 nearly all domestic if you think about it. As far 1:10:58.560 --> 1:11:01.680 as TV shows go, NFL counted for seventy the top 1:11:01.720 --> 1:11:04.160 one hundred broadcasts in the United States last year, twenty 1:11:04.200 --> 1:11:07.479 three billion in revenue. The Bengals and all the other 1:11:07.600 --> 1:11:10.080 thirty one teams get over four hundred and thirty million 1:11:10.120 --> 1:11:12.479 dollars a year back from the NFL, from TV revenue 1:11:12.560 --> 1:11:16.599 and all everything involved there. And there are three powerful 1:11:16.680 --> 1:11:20.000 figures that got us to where we are today. Is 1:11:20.080 --> 1:11:22.879 one of them Paul Brown. Let me ask Ken ken Belson. 1:11:23.120 --> 1:11:25.880 He's a veteran NFL business reporter with the New York Times, 1:11:25.920 --> 1:11:29.479 has the book out every day is Sunday, and Ken, welcome, 1:11:29.479 --> 1:11:29.800 how are you. 1:11:31.280 --> 1:11:31.599 Very good? 1:11:31.640 --> 1:11:32.320 Thanks for having me on. 1:11:33.040 --> 1:11:36.360 Yeah, we live in Cincinnati where Paul Brown still casts 1:11:36.400 --> 1:11:38.720 a shadow. I think you know the person who is 1:11:38.800 --> 1:11:41.200 essentially one of the cornerstones in the Mount rushmore over 1:11:41.240 --> 1:11:43.559 the early NFL. But we're not talking about that. We're 1:11:43.600 --> 1:11:45.680 talking over the last couple of decades and how it 1:11:45.760 --> 1:11:48.320 became such a revenue monster. And the three people responsible 1:11:49.080 --> 1:11:49.679 are whom. 1:11:51.280 --> 1:11:56.120 Jerry Jones and I started the book in the early nineties. 1:11:56.160 --> 1:11:58.559 So just as a reference for it, if we're going 1:11:58.600 --> 1:12:01.360 to expand Mount Rush or Paul Brown would most definitely 1:12:01.400 --> 1:12:04.479 be on it. But Jerry Jones, Robert Craft and now 1:12:05.280 --> 1:12:09.360 Roger Goodell, and I'm talking dollars and sometimes common sense. 1:12:10.439 --> 1:12:12.360 Yeah, and look at that line, go well, Jerry Jones 1:12:13.240 --> 1:12:15.800 came in prior to Robert Craft, I believe, and Roger Goodell, 1:12:15.840 --> 1:12:18.120 of course the last commissioner. So let's start with the time. 1:12:18.200 --> 1:12:19.200 Let's start with Jerry Jones. 1:12:20.360 --> 1:12:23.000 Sure, Jerry came in in eighty nine. The Cowboys, which 1:12:23.120 --> 1:12:27.400 used to be America's team self proclaimed, of course, you know, 1:12:27.520 --> 1:12:29.320 were flat on their back. They were losing a million 1:12:29.320 --> 1:12:32.400 dollars a month. And he revived what was then the 1:12:32.479 --> 1:12:37.719 premieer brand of the seventies, and all those Landry Stylebach teams, 1:12:38.520 --> 1:12:41.080 he revived them. He brought money in Glmer and Glitz back, 1:12:41.120 --> 1:12:44.320 and of course won three Super Bowls. But his big contribution, 1:12:45.280 --> 1:12:47.840 at least from where I sit writing the book looking 1:12:47.880 --> 1:12:50.479 at the league overall, was he was the first to 1:12:50.560 --> 1:12:53.559 look at the TV cond of tracts, which back then 1:12:53.680 --> 1:12:57.000 with CBS, ABC, NBC, there were only three bidders. It 1:12:57.120 --> 1:12:59.519 was a cozy club art model of the Browns used 1:12:59.520 --> 1:13:03.040 to run the the broadcasting contract. And Jerry, you know, 1:13:03.120 --> 1:13:05.840 as an entrepreneur, said why don't we have a fourth bidder, 1:13:05.840 --> 1:13:08.400 Why don't we get an auction going, which is also 1:13:08.600 --> 1:13:11.439 business common sense, yep. So he invited in a fellow 1:13:11.479 --> 1:13:14.479 named Rupert Murdoch, who was desperate for sports to put 1:13:14.600 --> 1:13:17.479 Fox on the map and to get affiliates to switch 1:13:17.520 --> 1:13:21.040 over to him, and it worked. He blew a CBS 1:13:21.160 --> 1:13:24.040 out of the water. CBS learned its lesson, came back 1:13:24.120 --> 1:13:26.200 four years later and paid twice as much for the 1:13:26.320 --> 1:13:29.600 AFC package. And so Jerry really brought that kind of 1:13:29.680 --> 1:13:33.479 businessman's instinct, also a bit of a wildcatter's instinct. He 1:13:33.920 --> 1:13:38.240 started marketing the cowboys every which way and that pissed 1:13:38.280 --> 1:13:40.840 off a lot of old owners. But yeah, he as 1:13:40.960 --> 1:13:43.400 Carmen Polos. He said, he taught us how to make money. 1:13:43.800 --> 1:13:44.840 That's what Jerry goes. 1:13:45.800 --> 1:13:48.280 He really did. I mean, think how you monetized the 1:13:48.400 --> 1:13:51.240 cheerleaders too. Had said, hey, you know sex Sel Sex Dallas. 1:13:51.280 --> 1:13:53.479 Cowboy cheelers are a huge thing in the seventies, had 1:13:53.479 --> 1:13:56.800 a TV show and everything. So he was squeezing every 1:13:56.840 --> 1:14:00.800 possible nickel out and this precipitated the era that we're 1:14:00.800 --> 1:14:03.479 in right now with the flamboyants, the media presence, the 1:14:03.560 --> 1:14:06.360 monetization of everything. So how does that then lead into 1:14:06.400 --> 1:14:08.760 Robert Kraft? How did what did he add to the mix? 1:14:09.720 --> 1:14:11.920 Well, Robert came in very much like Jerry. 1:14:12.000 --> 1:14:15.439 He paid record amount for a really bad team. The 1:14:15.520 --> 1:14:18.560 Patriots were always at the bottom of the league financially 1:14:18.960 --> 1:14:22.000 and usually in the standings as well, and he, you know, 1:14:22.439 --> 1:14:24.599 again set out to revive it. He built a new 1:14:24.640 --> 1:14:27.840 stadium eventually and then built real estate around it and 1:14:28.360 --> 1:14:30.360 went to the Super Bowl, as we all know. But 1:14:30.479 --> 1:14:33.559 again he got very involved in league business and also 1:14:33.680 --> 1:14:36.800 on the media side. He had owned part owned a 1:14:36.920 --> 1:14:40.400 CBS affiliate in Boston, so he already had really good 1:14:40.479 --> 1:14:44.040 contact with Les Moonbez and Melkarmizan and these guys. And 1:14:44.479 --> 1:14:46.679 you know, he was the guy who brought CBS back 1:14:47.600 --> 1:14:49.600 in nineteen ninety six and they, as I said, they 1:14:49.680 --> 1:14:52.360 did twice as much for what was considered back then. 1:14:52.400 --> 1:14:56.679 The AFC package was considered less prestigious. So Robert also 1:14:56.800 --> 1:14:59.479 had that instinct we all need to we need to 1:14:59.520 --> 1:15:01.479 look to all oats. We can't just focus on our 1:15:01.520 --> 1:15:05.040 own teams in our own markets. And you know, Jerry 1:15:05.120 --> 1:15:09.759 in various places has picked on the Browns, the Brown family, 1:15:09.920 --> 1:15:12.719 and the Bengals because they weren't carrying or he felt 1:15:12.760 --> 1:15:13.440 they weren't. 1:15:13.200 --> 1:15:13.960 Carrying their weight. 1:15:14.840 --> 1:15:18.679 But his argument was, look, if we juice up the marketing, 1:15:18.800 --> 1:15:20.960 you know, everybody should be able to sell in their 1:15:21.000 --> 1:15:25.120 own markets and make extra money. But you know, some 1:15:25.240 --> 1:15:28.760 of the older teams are the older owners. They this 1:15:28.920 --> 1:15:30.720 wasn't how they did business. So there was a good 1:15:30.800 --> 1:15:32.640 culture clash, and it's a good one, but there was 1:15:32.680 --> 1:15:35.800 a culture class in the nineties that now is just 1:15:35.880 --> 1:15:38.320 taken for granted. Everybody's in it to make money. 1:15:38.439 --> 1:15:42.040 Yeah, and it really has. And I think Bob Kraft 1:15:42.080 --> 1:15:44.160 and he had a hand in launching NFL Network and 1:15:44.200 --> 1:15:46.599 Sunday Ticket and all those things we just take for granted. 1:15:46.600 --> 1:15:48.679 But that was largely out of the mind of Bob Craft, 1:15:48.760 --> 1:15:49.040 wasn't it. 1:15:50.000 --> 1:15:55.719 Absolutely And you know, Bob still called Robert. He still 1:15:55.800 --> 1:16:00.120 goes to the Allen and Company, you know confab in 1:16:00.200 --> 1:16:04.599 Idaho every summer. He's you know, shoulders with NBC. All 1:16:04.640 --> 1:16:08.519 the networks come to see and go through Bob Craft. 1:16:09.360 --> 1:16:13.479 The big Sunday ticket renewal with YouTube when they switched 1:16:13.520 --> 1:16:17.160 over to YouTube was over two billion dollars a year, 1:16:17.840 --> 1:16:21.200 more than double what had been paid. And again Craft 1:16:21.400 --> 1:16:24.400 was very instrumental in that in some ways. Really interestingly, 1:16:25.120 --> 1:16:28.679 Jerry and Robert compete against each other for who gets 1:16:28.760 --> 1:16:31.680 credit for all this and they so I guess their 1:16:31.760 --> 1:16:33.799 egos also put them up on the Mount Rushmore. 1:16:33.840 --> 1:16:36.960 Okay, so Paul Brown begets Jerry Jones, a big gests 1:16:37.080 --> 1:16:40.800 Robert Kraft to So where does that go then? If 1:16:40.840 --> 1:16:42.920 that lineage you can get Bob Kraft, got JR. Jones. 1:16:43.800 --> 1:16:47.479 Who's the next? I guess revolutionary If you will change agent, 1:16:47.560 --> 1:16:49.639 the NFL strights ownership goes which owner? 1:16:50.560 --> 1:16:54.080 Well, I feel like we're entering NFL three point zero here. 1:16:54.640 --> 1:16:57.799 You know where teams are even now, like lifestyle brands, 1:16:57.840 --> 1:17:02.680 they're becoming you know, real estate, they're becoming literally communities. 1:17:03.280 --> 1:17:06.440 You look at what's happening in Nashville. They're building townhouses 1:17:06.520 --> 1:17:08.519 next to NFL stadiums. It used to be I mean 1:17:08.560 --> 1:17:11.040 you know this every fan does. Stadiums used to be 1:17:11.120 --> 1:17:12.920 out in the suburbs and they were just surrounded by 1:17:13.000 --> 1:17:16.880 miles of parking lots. Kansas City still has that, and 1:17:17.000 --> 1:17:19.600 teams are realizing, Boy, our brands are so powerful. We 1:17:19.720 --> 1:17:23.040 could sell pretty much anything because fans want to be 1:17:23.200 --> 1:17:25.120 sort of close to it, and baseball has done a 1:17:25.160 --> 1:17:28.280 good job of it over the years. You know, building 1:17:28.360 --> 1:17:32.160 stadiums in city. You know, family was sort of grandfarthered 1:17:32.200 --> 1:17:35.360 in even my beloved vents. You know, they're now putting 1:17:35.720 --> 1:17:39.720 a soccer stadium across the street and apartments. But football's 1:17:39.720 --> 1:17:41.880 been slow to them, partly because of the size of 1:17:41.920 --> 1:17:44.920 the stadiums and just the infrequency of this, of the 1:17:45.000 --> 1:17:45.719 number of games. 1:17:46.080 --> 1:17:48.519 But there is a scary city with the NFL, right, 1:17:48.560 --> 1:17:50.479 And that's the thing is amazing part about this is 1:17:50.520 --> 1:17:53.840 they did this is a baseball or hockey or the NBA. 1:17:54.040 --> 1:17:57.599 This is like seventeen weeks. Eighteen weeks, you're beginning, ending, 1:17:57.640 --> 1:18:00.760 and done. And that's an incredibly small amount of time 1:18:01.000 --> 1:18:03.560 to generate this kind of revenue. You're right about the 1:18:03.560 --> 1:18:05.720 Bob mean here in Cincinnati, you know, you can get 1:18:05.760 --> 1:18:09.519 a place overlooking Great American Ballpark. So he's Ken Belson. 1:18:09.800 --> 1:18:11.639 He writes for The New York Times, veteran reporter every 1:18:11.680 --> 1:18:14.280 day a Sunday, How Jerry Jones, Robert Craft and Roger 1:18:14.360 --> 1:18:17.400 Goodell turned the NFL into a cultural and economic juggernaut. 1:18:17.439 --> 1:18:20.760 It's fascinating. So we get to Roger Goodell, now Ken 1:18:21.040 --> 1:18:24.240 and his target going in when he took office, I 1:18:24.280 --> 1:18:26.960 think in twenty oh six, he wanted to triple the 1:18:27.120 --> 1:18:30.280 NFL revenue to twenty five billion by twenty twenty seven. 1:18:30.320 --> 1:18:32.439 I said in the open last year they did twenty 1:18:32.520 --> 1:18:35.400 three billion. He's not on target, he's over target. 1:18:36.400 --> 1:18:39.120 You're absolutely right, and it was audacious when he made 1:18:39.200 --> 1:18:42.320 that prediction to the owners. He was a relatively new 1:18:42.360 --> 1:18:46.160 commissioner then, but he wanted to show the owners what 1:18:46.320 --> 1:18:48.960 he was about. He was working on behalf of them 1:18:49.040 --> 1:18:53.000 in the thirty two and you know, as he knows, 1:18:53.120 --> 1:18:55.320 he knows who pays his salary. And if you said 1:18:55.360 --> 1:18:57.960 an aggressive target, even the owners in the room that 1:18:58.080 --> 1:19:01.640 I spoke with were shaking their heads, saying, how are 1:19:01.640 --> 1:19:03.360 we going to get there? That's a billion dollars a 1:19:03.520 --> 1:19:08.120 year for fifteen some odd years. That's that's pretty audacious. 1:19:08.280 --> 1:19:10.839 The league back then was maybe ten billion dollars. 1:19:11.280 --> 1:19:12.560 So he did it. 1:19:12.760 --> 1:19:15.280 He did it through TV deals, not just Roger, of course, 1:19:15.400 --> 1:19:18.200 but he sets the tone in the building, not just 1:19:18.320 --> 1:19:21.480 for the media deals that the owners negotiate, but the sponsorships. 1:19:21.520 --> 1:19:24.200 You look now, of course you got Verizon and Pepsi, 1:19:24.640 --> 1:19:28.840 there's a new official bank EA the game company. They 1:19:28.960 --> 1:19:32.479 keep slicing, slicing it a little thinner and finding new 1:19:32.560 --> 1:19:34.840 ways to market. And you know it used to be 1:19:34.920 --> 1:19:37.080 in and have a drink. Well, now there's the official 1:19:37.200 --> 1:19:41.559 rum sponsor, the official box sponsor. So they're finding money 1:19:41.600 --> 1:19:44.320 in new places, and look, brands want to be associated 1:19:44.360 --> 1:19:46.320 with the league and many sports. 1:19:46.400 --> 1:19:51.080 Really, yeah, Ken, how has international expansion worked? Is that 1:19:51.240 --> 1:19:53.559 the future? Because it seems they're really pushing it. It's 1:19:53.600 --> 1:19:55.120 hard to tell me. You have a lot of expats 1:19:55.160 --> 1:19:57.960 attending games in London and elsewhere, and you're trying it 1:19:58.000 --> 1:20:01.560 in different countries and in different continent Is that the 1:20:01.640 --> 1:20:02.439 future of the NFL? 1:20:03.960 --> 1:20:07.040 It's one future of the NFL. I think there's something 1:20:07.080 --> 1:20:10.759 of a misconception that you know, this is like gravy 1:20:11.000 --> 1:20:14.200 on top of you know, an already robust domestic market. 1:20:14.439 --> 1:20:17.360 But the reality is they need to look overseas. The 1:20:17.439 --> 1:20:21.160 growth rate in America is population growth rate is slowing. 1:20:22.200 --> 1:20:24.960 You know, the concussion issue has turned some parents away 1:20:25.000 --> 1:20:28.759 from football, and you know, many many studies have shown 1:20:28.800 --> 1:20:31.599 that what sport you play as a kid is going 1:20:31.680 --> 1:20:33.600 to turn you into a fan later in life. So 1:20:33.680 --> 1:20:36.400 if you play grew up playing little league baseball, you're 1:20:36.400 --> 1:20:38.920 more likely to be a baseball fan. Of course, you 1:20:39.320 --> 1:20:42.280 like many sports, but your primary sport. So the NFL 1:20:42.400 --> 1:20:45.160 needs young kids playing the game, and that's where flag 1:20:45.280 --> 1:20:49.000 comes in, obviously because it's a cheap way to start 1:20:49.120 --> 1:20:51.680 kids out on football and also to reassure parents. But 1:20:51.800 --> 1:20:55.280 it's also why the NFL is looking overseas. They need 1:20:55.400 --> 1:20:59.080 new fans, new markets, new media deals, new sponsors, and 1:20:59.280 --> 1:21:04.160 so they're using flag because outside of North America probably Germany, 1:21:04.280 --> 1:21:06.600 really not many people play it, so they have to 1:21:06.840 --> 1:21:10.400 educate fans. So I see international as much as a 1:21:10.479 --> 1:21:14.240 necessity as a luxury, and that's why we're seeing all 1:21:14.280 --> 1:21:17.760 these extra games being added. Roger Goodell see apparently they 1:21:17.800 --> 1:21:20.599 want to add two more international games next year. Eventually 1:21:20.680 --> 1:21:24.400 they'll get to basically one every week by the time 1:21:24.439 --> 1:21:25.080 they're done with it. 1:21:26.560 --> 1:21:28.559 And that seems like I think, of your a football 1:21:28.560 --> 1:21:30.200 fan here, it just seems like they in no way 1:21:30.280 --> 1:21:32.479 the Europeans a British state, they don't really care about 1:21:32.479 --> 1:21:35.759 American football. That But it wasn't that long ago, mostly 1:21:35.840 --> 1:21:38.920 under Roger Goodell, we said the same thing about female fans. 1:21:39.160 --> 1:21:40.920 It's a bunch of guys watching the women go and 1:21:41.040 --> 1:21:42.880 shop and make dinner or whatever, you know, back of 1:21:42.920 --> 1:21:46.040 the seventies, just thinking and now just as many women 1:21:46.360 --> 1:21:48.519 is matter watching football. How do they pull that one off. 1:21:49.720 --> 1:21:54.040 Yeah, it's been a very deliberate long term strategy. Flag 1:21:54.200 --> 1:21:56.640 is one way to teach the game to fans who 1:21:56.720 --> 1:22:00.640 aren't interested in you know, option plays and RPOs and 1:22:00.680 --> 1:22:03.400 all this other stuff, but they want they see the basics. 1:22:03.800 --> 1:22:06.320 I think they've been very good the branding of the league. 1:22:07.560 --> 1:22:11.080 I'm not just talking about press cancer awareness, but literally 1:22:11.200 --> 1:22:13.519 the fashion items. If you go on NFL dot com, 1:22:13.880 --> 1:22:16.679 there's a lot of women's that lean into the women's 1:22:16.720 --> 1:22:19.280 fashion as well. And trying to make it sort of 1:22:19.360 --> 1:22:22.160 more fan friendly, the game day experience. I mean the 1:22:22.240 --> 1:22:25.200 days when you would tailgate, drink a six pack of 1:22:25.280 --> 1:22:27.599 beer and go with your buddies. They're trying to make 1:22:27.640 --> 1:22:29.120 it so you can bring your kids to the game 1:22:29.240 --> 1:22:33.519 and your wife, maybe your girlfriend. So softening the sport 1:22:33.560 --> 1:22:35.880 a little bit, not like the old dog Pound in 1:22:35.960 --> 1:22:38.920 the municipal stadium, you know she was was It wasn't 1:22:38.920 --> 1:22:42.280 even fan friendly, but yeah, it was kind of a 1:22:42.400 --> 1:22:46.160 rough out there. So yeah, so I think these are 1:22:46.200 --> 1:22:50.040 all very deliberate efforts to sort of broaden the audience 1:22:50.560 --> 1:22:52.599 because the older fans, I mean not one of them, 1:22:53.240 --> 1:22:56.840 we're aging out. Younger kids want an experience. This isn't 1:22:56.920 --> 1:22:59.320 just true of football, but many sports. They're looking for 1:22:59.400 --> 1:23:02.360 the experience. They're not so much looking for a season package. 1:23:03.000 --> 1:23:05.160 They're by the jersey, but you need a Joe Burrow, 1:23:05.280 --> 1:23:07.960 you know, you need some star pal. And then the 1:23:08.080 --> 1:23:09.560 NFL has picked up on that. 1:23:09.920 --> 1:23:11.519 Yeah, yeah, I think maybe still a little bit from 1:23:11.520 --> 1:23:13.760 the NBA. Speaking of that, of course, you know, we 1:23:13.840 --> 1:23:18.200 have controversies, right and navigating can suck. Concussion lawsuits and 1:23:18.280 --> 1:23:21.599 CTE and the flight Gate and all that stuff. NFL 1:23:21.760 --> 1:23:25.760 is really really good about handling criseses and flare ups 1:23:25.840 --> 1:23:26.000 like that. 1:23:27.360 --> 1:23:27.519 Yeah. 1:23:27.640 --> 1:23:30.040 One of the themes in the book is you see 1:23:30.160 --> 1:23:34.879 over and over the Ray Rice issue, the bullying scandal, 1:23:36.000 --> 1:23:38.599 the to fight, to a certain degree deflacate the social 1:23:38.800 --> 1:23:42.360 justice protests in twenty seventeen. The NFL is kind of 1:23:42.400 --> 1:23:46.200 a deck at identifying the problem, trying to minimize the risks, 1:23:46.280 --> 1:23:50.360 usually with lawyers. Concussion crisis another example of this, and 1:23:50.439 --> 1:23:53.240 then trying to turn the focus back to number one 1:23:53.439 --> 1:23:57.160 quote what they call solutions, say for helmets, neurologists on 1:23:57.240 --> 1:24:00.760 the sidelines, and then trying to pivot forward, you know, 1:24:01.040 --> 1:24:06.120 and and rebranding the game. They know like if you 1:24:06.240 --> 1:24:08.640 and I would understand anybody would understand it. It's all 1:24:08.640 --> 1:24:11.439 about the games. Once the games start, people are hooked, 1:24:11.760 --> 1:24:14.360 particularly late in the season, and so they try and 1:24:14.600 --> 1:24:17.439 address these problems so they can quickly pivot back to 1:24:18.160 --> 1:24:19.679 the football, the action on the field. 1:24:20.240 --> 1:24:23.120 Yeah, Ken, what do you see as the biggest threat 1:24:23.160 --> 1:24:25.599 to the NFL over the next decade? Is it health? 1:24:25.720 --> 1:24:27.360 Is it fan engagement? Something else? 1:24:28.479 --> 1:24:33.200 You know, the players now see gambling very differently. Many 1:24:33.280 --> 1:24:37.599 of them have grown up as adults after sports legalized 1:24:37.600 --> 1:24:42.360 sports gambling. You know, sports gambling was legalized nationally, so 1:24:42.800 --> 1:24:46.720 they don't have the same Alex taras Paul Hornig, you 1:24:46.800 --> 1:24:51.440 know Pete Rose stigma, right, And it's mean as more entertainment. 1:24:51.800 --> 1:24:54.639 And I think players are going to unwittingly walk into 1:24:54.720 --> 1:24:59.000 some of these traps and not fully grasp what's going on. 1:24:59.160 --> 1:25:02.200 The Other thing is phones. This is both good in 1:25:02.280 --> 1:25:04.200 bed you can watch your favorite highlights to get your 1:25:04.240 --> 1:25:07.679 fantasy scores, but it also distracts you from the actual product, 1:25:08.200 --> 1:25:12.040 and gambling only accelerates that, you know, the dopamine hit 1:25:12.240 --> 1:25:15.240 of seeing your favorite player score a touchdown and maybe 1:25:15.280 --> 1:25:19.160 get your six points in a fantasy league is now accelerated, 1:25:19.240 --> 1:25:21.240 you know, hyped up when money is on the line, 1:25:21.320 --> 1:25:23.600 and you know, so I think it's it's it's not 1:25:23.840 --> 1:25:25.960 just the NFL, but the NFL is the most gambled 1:25:26.000 --> 1:25:28.880 on sport, and I think they're going to grapple with 1:25:29.080 --> 1:25:32.760 sort of a changing fan attitude towards the league. And 1:25:33.160 --> 1:25:34.519 I don't know how you put the genie back in 1:25:34.560 --> 1:25:38.280 the bottle. That's not my expertise, but it's it's going 1:25:38.360 --> 1:25:39.880 to play out over a bunch of years now. 1:25:40.000 --> 1:25:41.840 Also, wonder how AI is going to change all the 1:25:42.120 --> 1:25:44.719 That's that's the unforeseen. I'm the I'm sure the NFL 1:25:44.840 --> 1:25:47.040 lean into and adapt to whatever it is. But you know, 1:25:47.320 --> 1:25:50.519 I see that from an entertainment perspective, which sports is. 1:25:50.640 --> 1:25:53.320 It's not about sports anymore, it's about entertainment. I see 1:25:53.320 --> 1:25:54.679 that as an existential threat. 1:25:56.000 --> 1:25:58.639 Yeah, absolutely. I mean, right now AI is being used 1:25:58.720 --> 1:26:04.160 mostly in in you know, analytics departments at teams, but 1:26:04.320 --> 1:26:06.479 also to figure out a way to get you to 1:26:06.560 --> 1:26:11.120 buy an extra ticket or you know, anticipate what you're 1:26:11.160 --> 1:26:12.560 going to want to drink when you get to the 1:26:12.640 --> 1:26:16.320 stadium and send you a coupon for it. So right now, 1:26:16.400 --> 1:26:19.400 it's mostly on the business side, but there could be 1:26:19.960 --> 1:26:23.600 media strategies around it. I mean, fans are using it 1:26:23.680 --> 1:26:26.479 all over the place, and you know, spoofing is a 1:26:26.520 --> 1:26:29.639 big issue too. But I just think that the trusts. 1:26:29.760 --> 1:26:33.400 It's so hard in any brand to build up trust, 1:26:33.479 --> 1:26:36.919 and it can evaporate very quickly if there's a scandal 1:26:36.960 --> 1:26:38.799 and people stop believing what they're watching. 1:26:39.000 --> 1:26:41.679 All right, veteran New York Times sports reporter Ken Belson. 1:26:41.720 --> 1:26:44.120 The book is every Day Is Sunday. How Jerry Jones, 1:26:44.200 --> 1:26:46.400 Robert Craft, Roger Goodell turn the NFL into a cultural 1:26:46.479 --> 1:26:51.160 and economic juggernauts. Fantastic read, Very very interesting, and considering 1:26:51.200 --> 1:26:53.000 we are the home of the best Bengals coverage, I 1:26:53.040 --> 1:26:55.120 think pretty relevant too to see where things have gone 1:26:55.120 --> 1:26:57.720 and where they're going. Can all the best, Good luck 1:26:57.720 --> 1:26:58.839 with the book, Thanks for jumping. 1:26:58.600 --> 1:26:59.040 On this morning. 1:26:59.760 --> 1:27:01.240 A right, and Gojo Flackham. 1:27:02.800 --> 1:27:04.960 We need we need Joe to go and the your 1:27:05.040 --> 1:27:07.840 Jets to go down. That's what we need. That's another 1:27:07.920 --> 1:27:12.800 former Jets quarterback elsewhere. Yeah, you get the Jets and 1:27:12.840 --> 1:27:15.280 the Browns together with quarterbacks. It's like a it's like 1:27:15.360 --> 1:27:18.840 an insynct grinder for God's sake, see you buddy. Yeah, okay, 1:27:18.920 --> 1:27:20.960 take care. We'll do a news update here in just 1:27:21.120 --> 1:27:24.000 minutes on the Big one seven hundred WWS afore mentioned 1:27:24.120 --> 1:27:26.519 j E. T. S Jets. Jets Jets are in town Sunday. 1:27:26.520 --> 1:27:28.720 We'll have the game for you here, of course, with 1:27:28.880 --> 1:27:32.679 Dan and the Ring of Honor reducty himself Dave Lapham 1:27:32.720 --> 1:27:34.400 here on seven hundred WLW. 1:27:37.520 --> 1:27:40.000 The weekend's coming up and you need to make the 1:27:40.120 --> 1:27:40.560 most of it. 1:27:40.920 --> 1:27:42.240 Where to go and what to do. 1:27:42.760 --> 1:27:45.080 She has the tips and inside to help you make 1:27:45.120 --> 1:27:48.040 it a super weekend, So listen up. This is the 1:27:48.240 --> 1:27:52.160 Local Loop with Ali mart on seven hundred w LW. 1:27:52.479 --> 1:27:54.400 Hey, what's going on your week? Everything good? 1:27:54.560 --> 1:27:58.160 It is great. It's chrispy, this is cold. 1:27:58.200 --> 1:28:01.599 Actually feel like it's every finances dream because it's puffer 1:28:01.680 --> 1:28:02.480 vest season. 1:28:03.960 --> 1:28:07.280 Buffer best season. You know the look I know, yeah, 1:28:07.720 --> 1:28:09.760 the quarters it yeah. And if you're thick, you look 1:28:09.840 --> 1:28:11.880 like a marshmallow. It's like you got to be tall 1:28:11.960 --> 1:28:14.200 and bony like you and you get away. You get 1:28:14.200 --> 1:28:16.080 away with that. So it's all good. Ally Martin, it's 1:28:16.080 --> 1:28:18.640 the Local Loop. Will jump right in. It feels like 1:28:18.720 --> 1:28:22.360 it's pumpkin season to be sure with Halloween on the horizon. 1:28:22.160 --> 1:28:22.680 Let's go. 1:28:23.080 --> 1:28:25.560 Yes, it is a pumpkin season and it's time for 1:28:26.120 --> 1:28:29.080 maybe a good haunted tour or if you're going, if 1:28:29.080 --> 1:28:30.479 you're going to any haunted houses. 1:28:30.720 --> 1:28:33.760 But there's one spot in particular that they're doing it right. 1:28:34.320 --> 1:28:36.280 Honestly, they're doing it right just to general because they 1:28:36.320 --> 1:28:38.320 have an incredible lineup events that we have two we're 1:28:38.320 --> 1:28:40.519 gonna talk about here, and that's Northern Row. 1:28:40.800 --> 1:28:44.160 You remember Northern Row. It's a brewery near in over 1:28:44.200 --> 1:28:48.080 the Rhine. Really cool, a lot of awesome history. Coming up. 1:28:48.200 --> 1:28:51.840 On Thursday, October thirtieth, they're doing this pumpkin painting party 1:28:51.840 --> 1:28:54.720 and you're like, well that kind of is that really fun? 1:28:54.840 --> 1:28:56.960 And like, yeah, it is fun because they're going to 1:28:57.000 --> 1:29:00.080 bring in live music and it's all for free and 1:29:00.160 --> 1:29:01.760 you can go and they'll give you pumpkins and you 1:29:01.840 --> 1:29:04.080 give you know, they give you all of the material 1:29:04.160 --> 1:29:06.600 and everything to use it. It's an extension of what 1:29:06.680 --> 1:29:10.880 they're doing called Craft Nights. So yes, it's a pun 1:29:10.920 --> 1:29:13.479 on words in regards to craft beer. But also they're 1:29:13.520 --> 1:29:16.559 bringing in craft artists where they're really encouraging if you're 1:29:16.600 --> 1:29:19.360 into whatever it is, maybe you like to crochet, or you. 1:29:19.439 --> 1:29:21.519 Do like to paint, or you like to tink her 1:29:21.560 --> 1:29:22.280 with some cool stuff. 1:29:22.360 --> 1:29:23.160 I just want to drink. 1:29:24.040 --> 1:29:25.519 Then come and drink the craft beer. 1:29:25.960 --> 1:29:28.400 On top of this though, because they're doing this pupkin 1:29:28.479 --> 1:29:32.360 painting party, they're collaborating with American Legacy Tours because right 1:29:32.439 --> 1:29:35.000 down the street is the Linked Tunnels in which they 1:29:35.080 --> 1:29:38.200 do their ghost tours. So you can hang out, drink 1:29:38.280 --> 1:29:42.760 some beer, and sign up and go do a tour 1:29:42.960 --> 1:29:45.360 at the same time and check out the tunnels. If 1:29:45.400 --> 1:29:47.960 you've never done it and do the full on ghost tour, 1:29:48.560 --> 1:29:49.599 it is because you've. 1:29:49.479 --> 1:29:51.080 Been out of the tunneling. 1:29:52.160 --> 1:29:52.639 Have you done? 1:29:53.040 --> 1:29:56.280 You have a ghost ghost? Let me tell you you 1:29:56.479 --> 1:29:59.400 try to get those guys out next week sometime for Halloween. 1:29:59.520 --> 1:30:03.200 You got it. Miranda, she'll have She's our favorite Australia stories. 1:30:03.479 --> 1:30:04.599 She has all of the stories. 1:30:04.640 --> 1:30:07.640 I have stories myself down there too because of just 1:30:07.960 --> 1:30:10.600 going down and having a good relationship with them, and 1:30:10.840 --> 1:30:13.320 every single time it's a little different. They give you 1:30:13.479 --> 1:30:16.760 different equipment, so ghost hunting equipment, and they turn off 1:30:16.800 --> 1:30:18.080 the lights and you're rolling down with. 1:30:18.240 --> 1:30:18.879 Just a flashlight. 1:30:19.000 --> 1:30:22.360 What they give you what's ghost setting equipment. 1:30:22.760 --> 1:30:25.200 Okay, have you ever seen those copper rods that people 1:30:25.240 --> 1:30:25.679 will hold? 1:30:25.880 --> 1:30:27.519 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, detexts. 1:30:27.960 --> 1:30:30.240 M yeah. So they have the EMF readers, they have 1:30:30.320 --> 1:30:31.160 the copper rods. 1:30:31.400 --> 1:30:33.560 And I'm not going to get too much into the 1:30:33.720 --> 1:30:36.240 history of our city, but the best way to put 1:30:36.280 --> 1:30:39.320 it is this city has a lot of trapped energy, cholera, 1:30:39.600 --> 1:30:40.879 a lot of death sure. 1:30:40.920 --> 1:30:44.120 Back in the day. And there are plenty of ghost 1:30:44.160 --> 1:30:45.559 stories to go around. But we'll save that for. 1:30:47.080 --> 1:30:47.200 Time. 1:30:47.560 --> 1:30:51.360 You will save that for Miranda. But also happening at 1:30:51.400 --> 1:30:55.240 Northern Row is a new event called Low and Slow. 1:30:55.400 --> 1:30:57.160 Write this down, put this in your calendar. 1:30:57.200 --> 1:30:59.960 It's happening on November eighth, So it's not this week, 1:31:00.160 --> 1:31:02.679 but is November eighth, and it's all it's an event 1:31:02.800 --> 1:31:06.840 honoring firefighters while also raising money and having a barbecue, 1:31:06.880 --> 1:31:09.960 a barbecue cocar. So yeah, they're launching a new beer 1:31:10.080 --> 1:31:14.120 called Roughneck Lagger. It's an American light ale. And while 1:31:14.120 --> 1:31:16.920 they're brewing this also a good portion of the proceeds 1:31:16.960 --> 1:31:19.120 are going to be going back to the Cincinnati Firefighters 1:31:19.240 --> 1:31:23.320 Union Local forty eight, which is a really great organization 1:31:23.479 --> 1:31:26.280 that it you know, firefighters protect our community. This is 1:31:26.280 --> 1:31:30.000 an organization that protects themselves, so it helps with resources. 1:31:30.040 --> 1:31:32.200 It supplies them with access to health and wellness care. 1:31:32.960 --> 1:31:33.599 You know taboo. 1:31:33.640 --> 1:31:36.840 Mental health is pretty taboo within that community. So being 1:31:36.920 --> 1:31:41.200 able to give them those types of resources is it 1:31:41.280 --> 1:31:41.920 goes a long way. 1:31:42.040 --> 1:31:43.559 So it will be going back to. 1:31:43.640 --> 1:31:44.599 The fire. 1:31:46.840 --> 1:31:47.240 And the food. 1:31:47.320 --> 1:31:49.720 Got oh, you're bringing in pickled pig. You're bringing in 1:31:49.800 --> 1:31:52.840 Celia Joe's Brothers barbecue. I got a little scoop that 1:31:52.960 --> 1:31:55.599 the pickled pig Gary over there is incredible. 1:31:55.640 --> 1:31:59.840 He's doing a smoked lamb ragou with a creamy pol 1:32:00.600 --> 1:32:01.640 That probably pretty good. 1:32:02.360 --> 1:32:04.360 That's a good cold weather food right there. That is 1:32:04.720 --> 1:32:05.360 lamb night. 1:32:05.800 --> 1:32:08.640 We're just chef's kiss run that cusp of that. So 1:32:08.720 --> 1:32:11.160 I'm sure I'll mention it again in the next couple 1:32:11.200 --> 1:32:13.800 of weeks. But November eighth, write it in low and 1:32:13.960 --> 1:32:15.599 slow and get back to your firefighter. 1:32:15.680 --> 1:32:18.240 I love it. Okay. This morning I'm driving in listening 1:32:18.240 --> 1:32:20.920 to Hawkins and for Tom Brenneman's up doing football this 1:32:20.960 --> 1:32:23.639 Weekendnational Games, and he had someone out from the cost 1:32:23.880 --> 1:32:24.679 Coffee festival. 1:32:24.960 --> 1:32:27.080 Right, you're a coffee guy, like coffee. 1:32:27.360 --> 1:32:31.320 Let's go, Yeah, coffee festival is happening this Saturday and 1:32:31.439 --> 1:32:34.080 Sunday at the Cincinnati Music Hall. What I do love 1:32:34.120 --> 1:32:37.200 about this festival is it's approachable. Where the tickets aren't, 1:32:37.240 --> 1:32:39.120 you know, fifty five bucks, it's like twenty. 1:32:38.880 --> 1:32:41.080 Why would you need to have much for coffee and wine? 1:32:41.120 --> 1:32:42.599 I could see that, but it's coffee. 1:32:42.720 --> 1:32:43.120 Yeah, I know. 1:32:43.240 --> 1:32:45.160 But you know, sometimes these festivals are like, all right, 1:32:45.200 --> 1:32:45.680 what what is. 1:32:45.680 --> 1:32:47.920 Happening as the water and beans? Let's let's not let's 1:32:48.320 --> 1:32:48.920 sixty bucks. 1:32:48.960 --> 1:32:51.320 Come on, man, and you're gonna have people who are 1:32:51.560 --> 1:32:53.200 running laps in that place and no time. 1:32:53.400 --> 1:32:54.840 Talking like this because I'm trying on the cofee. This 1:32:54.920 --> 1:32:56.479 is really good. Anything that's really good, This is really good. 1:32:57.760 --> 1:33:00.720 You think I talk fast? Now, talk to me after 1:33:00.800 --> 1:33:01.439 coffee Fest? 1:33:01.800 --> 1:33:05.360 You need a depressant after fall asleep place and. 1:33:05.360 --> 1:33:08.519 No time coffee? This is really good. Anything that's really good, 1:33:08.520 --> 1:33:11.120 it's really good. Do you think I talk fast? 1:33:11.200 --> 1:33:11.320 Now? 1:33:11.920 --> 1:33:14.680 Okay, talk to me after coffee fest? You need a 1:33:14.760 --> 1:33:20.679 depressant after I'll fall asleep on Monday at nine adhd awful. 1:33:21.160 --> 1:33:21.560 There we go. 1:33:22.120 --> 1:33:25.920 Michelle's gonna love it. Yeah, So that's happening at the 1:33:25.960 --> 1:33:27.400 Society Music Hall. 1:33:27.439 --> 1:33:30.759 There's gonna be over sixty different vendors, you know, coffee roasters, 1:33:30.840 --> 1:33:35.240 tea shops, chocolate tears, pastry, pastries, and baked goods. What 1:33:35.360 --> 1:33:38.080 I really enjoy is a really good latte art throwdown. 1:33:38.479 --> 1:33:41.000 So that's one of those things that I like coffee. 1:33:41.200 --> 1:33:43.680 I would like to learn more about coffee. I'd like 1:33:43.760 --> 1:33:46.720 to invest in a fancy espresso maker and do some 1:33:46.880 --> 1:33:49.920 of that fun latte art. Never really have gotten into it, 1:33:50.040 --> 1:33:51.840 but there is a nuance and there is an art 1:33:51.960 --> 1:33:53.040 to it which is pretty cool. 1:33:54.400 --> 1:33:57.160 And do you know what takes? What it takes to 1:33:57.200 --> 1:33:58.400 have the freshest cup of coffee? 1:33:59.479 --> 1:34:05.280 Hot water, good water, good good water, water, good filtered water, 1:34:05.400 --> 1:34:06.000 filtered water. 1:34:06.040 --> 1:34:08.559 Okay, I have that, yeah, And I learned. 1:34:08.400 --> 1:34:10.240 This the other day that in order to have like 1:34:10.400 --> 1:34:13.560 the freshest cup of coffee is just to grind the 1:34:13.640 --> 1:34:17.160 beans right on the spot, which is not always accessible 1:34:17.200 --> 1:34:19.519 and easy to do. But if you can grind the 1:34:19.560 --> 1:34:21.760 beans and then make a cup of coffee right there, 1:34:21.800 --> 1:34:23.439 that's going to be your freshest cup of coffee. And 1:34:23.520 --> 1:34:25.880 if you're going into a coffee shop, ask for the 1:34:26.040 --> 1:34:28.120 most recent because you know, usually have the they have 1:34:28.240 --> 1:34:30.439 like the big jugs that are already pre made, ask 1:34:30.479 --> 1:34:31.600 for the most recently. 1:34:32.400 --> 1:34:35.439 Or just do a power over right the pour over? Yeah, 1:34:35.600 --> 1:34:36.559 and and French press. 1:34:36.720 --> 1:34:38.719 I think if you can even again have the beans 1:34:38.760 --> 1:34:41.760 grinded there. But that's going to be your your best bet. 1:34:41.880 --> 1:34:43.439 Yeah, I'm fine with a at home. 1:34:43.600 --> 1:34:46.240 I'm good. See and you're killing and you're killing the planet. 1:34:46.520 --> 1:34:48.760 You're one of those you're too lazy. 1:34:48.560 --> 1:34:50.880 To say, says the woman who has three Starbucks a 1:34:50.920 --> 1:34:52.880 day in a giant plastic cup of a huge straw. 1:34:53.000 --> 1:34:55.679 I am offended. I am that is not me walking 1:34:55.720 --> 1:34:57.440 through these hallways in environment. 1:34:58.120 --> 1:35:00.519 I watched the thing and I I need it now. 1:35:00.720 --> 1:35:03.000 Star making a whole pot of morning on the way 1:35:03.040 --> 1:35:04.160 in every day? What's wrong with you? 1:35:04.320 --> 1:35:07.120 Hold on, there's a lot to unpack. I'm still offended. 1:35:07.160 --> 1:35:07.800 I'm holding on it. 1:35:07.880 --> 1:35:09.479 You think I'm a Starbucks screen Yeah, you seem like 1:35:10.160 --> 1:35:10.400 I'm a. 1:35:10.479 --> 1:35:13.840 Dunk and girly. I'm all about affordability and their coffee 1:35:13.880 --> 1:35:14.320 is really good. 1:35:15.160 --> 1:35:17.840 You know what I'm with you? Donkeys, thank you, thank you. 1:35:18.360 --> 1:35:20.920 Just the black dark cup and then what. 1:35:21.040 --> 1:35:22.160 Kind of cup do they serve that in? 1:35:22.920 --> 1:35:23.080 You know? 1:35:23.160 --> 1:35:25.200 That's what if I told you I bring my own cup. 1:35:25.400 --> 1:35:28.559 You don't, don't. I'm looking right through you. I see 1:35:28.680 --> 1:35:29.160 right through you. 1:35:29.320 --> 1:35:30.040 Here's the other thing. 1:35:30.280 --> 1:35:32.439 What I do you bring on shopping bag? You're not 1:35:32.479 --> 1:35:36.040 one of those people. But I can champagne. I don't 1:35:36.080 --> 1:35:38.080 have to. I'm lucky. I remember to wear pants, want 1:35:38.080 --> 1:35:39.760 to go to the grocery store. I can't remember to 1:35:39.800 --> 1:35:40.599 bring where those toes. 1:35:41.080 --> 1:35:42.720 That means this is a sign of Alzheimer's. 1:35:43.040 --> 1:35:46.560 Probably is coffee. More like I don't Carozheimer's. 1:35:47.120 --> 1:35:52.000 And how many guns you are at that age zero? 1:35:53.439 --> 1:35:56.360 Given when you were at when you were at. 1:35:56.280 --> 1:35:58.479 The grocery store, what coffee are you reaching for? If 1:35:58.520 --> 1:36:02.960 you're making it from home? Everything is carrec You've never 1:36:03.200 --> 1:36:04.519 you don't have like a coffee PI used to. 1:36:04.640 --> 1:36:06.200 But it's like you throw half of it out because 1:36:06.240 --> 1:36:07.720 you have. And like in the morning when I when 1:36:07.760 --> 1:36:09.639 I get up, okay, so I'm up at arm goes 1:36:09.720 --> 1:36:11.600 up five forty five. Yeah, I get I'm making my 1:36:11.640 --> 1:36:14.240 coffee my travel mug. Right, bring that in a couple 1:36:14.240 --> 1:36:15.960 of two pods and I'm good to go. 1:36:16.160 --> 1:36:17.600 How do you feel about the poor over Would you 1:36:17.640 --> 1:36:18.840 ever switch to the PA It's. 1:36:18.840 --> 1:36:20.400 Much better than the cureate I'll give you that, and 1:36:20.439 --> 1:36:22.080 you keep it clean and stuff like that. But I 1:36:22.320 --> 1:36:24.200 don't have that kind of time. I'm not getting up 1:36:24.200 --> 1:36:26.360 an extra forty five minutes earlier to make a perfect 1:36:26.400 --> 1:36:28.479 cup of coffee. I don't care. I need a caffeine out. 1:36:28.680 --> 1:36:30.280 I'm a poor over girl. You hear me out. 1:36:30.320 --> 1:36:32.760 You get one of those chem x for the hourglass 1:36:32.800 --> 1:36:35.719 looking thing. You just put the funnel, you wet the filter, 1:36:36.000 --> 1:36:37.320 you throw the grounds in. 1:36:37.360 --> 1:36:42.040 There too much time, one push squeezes the water left. 1:36:42.160 --> 1:36:44.120 Don't care. You're not respecting all right on the weekend 1:36:44.240 --> 1:36:46.719 five times? Sure don't show up. Sure, Sure, I'm gonna 1:36:46.760 --> 1:36:48.400 want it. You're right, you don't want to come up 1:36:48.439 --> 1:36:49.040 with my senka. 1:36:50.560 --> 1:36:52.360 You know what, you can stay up in Mason because 1:36:52.360 --> 1:36:54.800 there's a new coffee shop up there. What is it, 1:36:54.960 --> 1:36:55.920 Cameria Coffee. 1:36:55.960 --> 1:36:58.200 Okay, yeah, I didn't think you could possibly have any 1:36:58.240 --> 1:36:59.680 more coffee places, but here we go. 1:37:00.120 --> 1:37:04.040 Have to admit Cincinnati we have a killer coffee chop scene, 1:37:04.280 --> 1:37:06.160 and we got another one right in your neck of 1:37:06.200 --> 1:37:09.840 the woods. And it's a Yemony coffee house. So I 1:37:09.880 --> 1:37:13.200 guess it's going for like it's rich flavors, traditional brewing, methods. 1:37:14.400 --> 1:37:17.519 You know what, hump breaks to have another cup of coffee. 1:37:18.840 --> 1:37:21.840 Good, just a coffee, just a good cup of black coffee. 1:37:21.840 --> 1:37:22.120 I'm good. 1:37:22.560 --> 1:37:25.439 And I will say they make a really great good 1:37:25.520 --> 1:37:30.000 cup of coffee. They have awesome obviously lattes ChIL Their 1:37:30.080 --> 1:37:32.559 chi lat is really good. And they have a series 1:37:32.600 --> 1:37:35.720 of different pastries. They do this like baclava cheesecake, a 1:37:35.800 --> 1:37:38.000 Dubai cookie. Have you been hearing about how this Dubai 1:37:38.080 --> 1:37:38.960 chocolate is taking. 1:37:38.800 --> 1:37:41.040 It's a whole thing and it's expensive as hell? 1:37:41.160 --> 1:37:42.080 What is the deal with that? 1:37:42.160 --> 1:37:43.120 I guess it's really good. 1:37:43.320 --> 1:37:44.160 I guess it's really good. 1:37:44.200 --> 1:37:48.200 And they have a by the way, the buye cookiee 1:37:48.240 --> 1:37:49.280 chocolate It's chewy. 1:37:49.080 --> 1:37:50.639 Sweet and it's absolute perfection. 1:37:50.920 --> 1:37:54.080 And almond croissant, different types of breads that go back 1:37:54.120 --> 1:37:57.280 to the Amni culture. And I will say I'm a 1:37:57.320 --> 1:37:59.920 stickler of a coffee shop that has the right vibe. 1:38:00.479 --> 1:38:03.600 And this Camarera, they they pretty much nailed it. 1:38:03.640 --> 1:38:04.840 It's big, there's plenty of space. 1:38:04.920 --> 1:38:07.280 They have this big booth, a lot of outlets, which 1:38:07.320 --> 1:38:09.519 is really important if you want to work, and they 1:38:09.520 --> 1:38:13.160 have this little couch area, so maybe check that out 1:38:13.200 --> 1:38:14.360 if you're wanting to try and. 1:38:14.439 --> 1:38:16.880 If I can distinguish many coffee and one of the 1:38:16.880 --> 1:38:18.920 other coffee is it's just coffee to me. I mean 1:38:19.080 --> 1:38:20.400 unless there's like a pumpkin spice. 1:38:20.600 --> 1:38:22.320 You've had to have had a bad cup of coffee. 1:38:22.360 --> 1:38:24.000 Oh yeah, I've had bad cups of coffee. I just 1:38:24.120 --> 1:38:27.040 like I'd like a dark roast kind of you know 1:38:27.120 --> 1:38:28.360 what strong coffee. 1:38:28.120 --> 1:38:29.519 You want to Here's the other thing. 1:38:29.640 --> 1:38:32.000 If you want to save a couple of bucks, don't sleep. 1:38:32.400 --> 1:38:36.400 There's a speedway in Westchester, the Westy Chesty, and they 1:38:36.479 --> 1:38:39.280 have one of those fancy smancy coffee machines that makes 1:38:39.320 --> 1:38:42.160 the lat taste. So most people who are spending seven 1:38:42.200 --> 1:38:44.680 bucks on a lot dance Starbucks. You can go to 1:38:44.760 --> 1:38:46.320 the shout out to the speedway. 1:38:46.479 --> 1:38:49.200 I will shout out, hell yeah, because now a lot 1:38:49.200 --> 1:38:51.160 of people where they. I mean, it's a machine of 1:38:51.240 --> 1:38:53.720 grinds right there for you. It's really good. 1:38:53.960 --> 1:38:55.439 I think, you know what, I'm going to put that 1:38:55.560 --> 1:38:56.000 to the top. 1:38:56.479 --> 1:38:58.439 You may have a fancy machine and you don't need 1:38:59.200 --> 1:39:01.960 glass for shout out to the Westchester speed All right, 1:39:02.000 --> 1:39:02.880 what else do we have here? 1:39:03.120 --> 1:39:05.640 We have these scaety or she's crabby about coffee. I 1:39:05.760 --> 1:39:07.680 remember that. That's I don't have my coffee this one. 1:39:07.800 --> 1:39:09.120 Oh there it is. 1:39:09.360 --> 1:39:11.720 Yeah, I was on the run this morning. 1:39:12.760 --> 1:39:17.160 Anyway, the Society Comic expos in town, Superman Legacy, meet 1:39:17.200 --> 1:39:19.720 and greet. All Right, Am I a comic girly? Heck no, 1:39:20.120 --> 1:39:22.599 but I feel like you would be a comic guy. 1:39:22.680 --> 1:39:23.240 Why don't you talk? 1:39:23.400 --> 1:39:26.840 No, you just mentioned this. I'm surprised Jack Crumley is 1:39:26.880 --> 1:39:27.439 not kicking. 1:39:27.280 --> 1:39:29.840 The store or Ricky Chino. I feel like he's one 1:39:29.880 --> 1:39:30.680 of those Tom Key. 1:39:30.720 --> 1:39:32.960 I know he's more sports, but Jack Crumley's definitely our 1:39:33.040 --> 1:39:34.360 Jack Crumley definitely loves him. 1:39:34.400 --> 1:39:37.080 So yeah, to be honest, I put this on the list. 1:39:37.160 --> 1:39:38.519 And I really don't know a whole lot about the 1:39:38.560 --> 1:39:40.680 comic scene, but it is Friday is Sunday at the 1:39:40.760 --> 1:39:44.960 Sherfield Convention Center at Superman. I think they're really leaning 1:39:45.040 --> 1:39:48.400 into that theme. They have their normal celebrity like cud 1:39:48.600 --> 1:39:49.240 list lineup. 1:39:49.280 --> 1:39:52.639 That's just funny though, makes it even. 1:39:52.560 --> 1:39:55.000 Better because you know what people still will show up 1:39:55.280 --> 1:39:58.880 and and if they're those celebrities are accessible, which is nice, 1:39:59.640 --> 1:40:01.680 and you can gear autographs and this is where the 1:40:01.760 --> 1:40:04.760 case play really comes out. I'm always super I think 1:40:04.800 --> 1:40:09.599 this is pressed by yea by those comic people will 1:40:09.640 --> 1:40:13.400 spend an entire year to make a single outfit and 1:40:13.560 --> 1:40:17.080 it is intense and I applaud that and perfect time 1:40:17.120 --> 1:40:18.680 a year because then if you were to make a 1:40:18.800 --> 1:40:21.600 cosplay outfit, you can wear for Halloween. 1:40:21.479 --> 1:40:25.720 Right right? Perfect killed it. So yeah, scene, But I 1:40:26.080 --> 1:40:28.040 know people that do it, it's like it's yeah, is 1:40:28.120 --> 1:40:30.040 it any different than someone who put where's a Joe 1:40:30.120 --> 1:40:31.200 Burrow jersey? It's the same? 1:40:31.320 --> 1:40:34.000 Ye Did you ever collect comics? 1:40:35.000 --> 1:40:37.000 Never collected them? I mean SoC I was never really 1:40:37.080 --> 1:40:38.800 like a comics. I read them, but I wasn't like 1:40:38.880 --> 1:40:42.360 collecting into the whole storyline and the yeah, yeah, it's 1:40:42.400 --> 1:40:45.040 just a it's just a soap opera in print. Basically, 1:40:45.080 --> 1:40:46.600 it's a story so well and. 1:40:46.920 --> 1:40:52.680 Like animey anime sons in time. So I want to 1:40:52.800 --> 1:40:53.320 understand it. 1:40:53.560 --> 1:40:56.360 Yeah, I have a hard time. But you know, there's 1:40:56.400 --> 1:40:57.680 that's the thing. It's a beauty the world. There's so 1:40:57.800 --> 1:40:59.720 much things it's just not my thing. Maybe anything that's 1:40:59.720 --> 1:41:01.920 not my fine, but I think that's kind of the 1:41:01.960 --> 1:41:04.519 beauty behind it. And I always of comic art, I 1:41:04.560 --> 1:41:05.360 think that's kind of cool. 1:41:05.520 --> 1:41:09.160 Well, speaking of art, came across a pretty cool concept 1:41:09.320 --> 1:41:14.840 called art Drops Cincinnati. Just learned about this yesterday and 1:41:14.960 --> 1:41:18.320 it's this new local art engagement project project. So long 1:41:18.400 --> 1:41:22.400 story short, this community is working with local artists around 1:41:22.439 --> 1:41:25.920 town and every week they collect a different piece of art. 1:41:26.000 --> 1:41:27.799 So it could be sculpture, it could be a painting, 1:41:28.000 --> 1:41:31.960 you name it, and they're dropping it somewhere randomly in 1:41:32.080 --> 1:41:35.519 the city, all within two seventy five and they give 1:41:35.560 --> 1:41:38.680 you clues enhanced on social media and if you find it, 1:41:38.840 --> 1:41:41.120 it's yours to keep. Oh cool, I'm like, this is 1:41:41.160 --> 1:41:43.920 actually a really cool qua. There are some really great 1:41:44.040 --> 1:41:45.560 artists in town that deserve to have. 1:41:46.120 --> 1:41:48.439 Number One. It highlights the artists, It allows you to 1:41:48.520 --> 1:41:49.080 kind of explore. 1:41:49.080 --> 1:41:50.800 Its a little bit of a treasure hunt and a 1:41:50.840 --> 1:41:52.960 lot of the times it's in whether maybe it's like 1:41:53.040 --> 1:41:55.800 in a cool urban spot or in a park, and 1:41:55.880 --> 1:41:57.040 it allows you to explore the city. 1:41:57.040 --> 1:41:58.280 But then you also get to keep the art. 1:41:58.240 --> 1:42:00.400 Works like a Pokemon go monet. 1:42:00.800 --> 1:42:03.600 Yeah in real life's fine and stuff actually get to 1:42:03.680 --> 1:42:03.880 keep it. 1:42:03.960 --> 1:42:04.640 How do you get in on this? 1:42:05.000 --> 1:42:09.320 So you go to art dash drops dot com. I 1:42:09.439 --> 1:42:09.880 signed up. 1:42:10.000 --> 1:42:12.400 Also just follow them on social media. On Instagram is 1:42:12.520 --> 1:42:14.400 the best way to go about it. And that's where 1:42:14.439 --> 1:42:16.960 those clues happen every single week. So they highlight what 1:42:17.120 --> 1:42:19.639 the art is going to be, They highlight the artist, 1:42:19.760 --> 1:42:22.760 and then they show the little glimpse of where it's placed. 1:42:22.760 --> 1:42:24.400 And then it's on YouTube. 1:42:24.479 --> 1:42:26.840 Maybe you know it, maybe you don't, okay, and then 1:42:26.880 --> 1:42:28.360 if you can find it, it's yours to keep. 1:42:28.600 --> 1:42:31.400 We have go go in here. But the abvis too 1:42:31.479 --> 1:42:33.439 is we've got uc homecoming which is gonna be huge 1:42:33.439 --> 1:42:35.760 and run Clifton. And then you've got Bengals game Day 1:42:35.800 --> 1:42:38.519 on Sunday with the Jets in toown. A great weekend 1:42:38.520 --> 1:42:40.400 to be downtown. Lots of stuff going on, so you know, 1:42:40.479 --> 1:42:43.080 if you're looking to do stuff before the football game, 1:42:43.160 --> 1:42:45.720 coffee after the games, get some coffee to get your 1:42:45.800 --> 1:42:48.759 art thing. We've got football all over the place this weekend. 1:42:48.760 --> 1:42:50.479 She's Ali Martin. It's a local loop this morning on 1:42:50.520 --> 1:42:53.000 seven hundred. WA should be back next Friday. I'm sure 1:42:53.040 --> 1:42:55.439 it'll be all Halloween related on Halloween, so I can't 1:42:55.439 --> 1:42:58.080 wait for that. All right, go get some coffee, I will, 1:42:58.160 --> 1:43:00.240 and RelA, I'm gonna go to Duncan get some cafee 1:43:00.240 --> 1:43:06.000 and relaxed. I like Dunk Duncan's fine. I did the 1:43:06.040 --> 1:43:09.519 midnight Dunk in Midnight Yeah yeah, that's the dark one 1:43:09.680 --> 1:43:13.360 dark so good, so good. Yeah. And the reason I 1:43:13.439 --> 1:43:15.559 do the Starbucks because the cureing the Starbucks are all over. 1:43:15.600 --> 1:43:17.720 They don't have the Duncan little pods and sailors of 1:43:17.720 --> 1:43:21.479 the Kroger, So I'm all about the value. Have a 1:43:21.520 --> 1:43:24.479 great weekend, Ali Martin at the Local Loop that's her 1:43:24.520 --> 1:43:27.360 YouTube channel, and at Ali Martin at or social feed 1:43:27.479 --> 1:43:29.840 it's the Local Loop every Friday morning. Have a great weekend. 1:43:30.760 --> 1:43:32.880 Go Cats and who Day Home of the best Bengals 1:43:32.920 --> 1:43:34.920 coverage seven hundred w WD Cincinnati