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Speaker 2: Happy Friday, four day weekend.

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Speaker 3: Vacation.

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Speaker 1: There it is Sean got the memo. Sean McMahon coming

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Speaker 1: for Joe's Strecker, who late day yesterday realized, well Thomas

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Speaker 1: he declared a vacation day for himself today. So good

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Speaker 1: have you in, Sean McMahon, sharp for the late notice.

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Speaker 1: Don't blame anybody, but I'm glad you're able to change

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Speaker 1: the Joe's Direcker production. Boo, good having you there, Sean McMahon.

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Speaker 1: Always good hearing from you. Five three, seven, four nine

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Speaker 1: Got alarming stuff on here this morning. Uh we got

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Speaker 1: many as I can. It's almost like news dump Friday

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Speaker 1: that I wanted to talk about today and invite you

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Speaker 1: to discuss anyway. Coming up, it is Friday Tech Friday

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Speaker 1: with Dave Hatter. We'll be talking about a local family

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Speaker 1: warning about Venmo scams, this after their personal tragedy. Avoid

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Speaker 1: artificial intelligence toys. Don't give your kids AI toys, says

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Speaker 1: Dave Hatter all the time. He's gonna say it again today.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he's got more illustrations of why it's a

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Speaker 1: bad thing to give your kids AI toys. And finally,

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Speaker 1: iPhone users just don't take these calls. No, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what these calls are. That's why we have Dave

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Speaker 1: interest I sponsoring the segment. I enjoy it. It's informative,

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Speaker 1: it's important if you follow his advice, he'll keep you

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Speaker 1: out of trouble. Peter Bronson the incomparable Peter Bronson. He's

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Speaker 1: obviously a renowned author, formerly with the Cincinni Choir. He's brilliant,

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Speaker 1: he's fun to talk to, and he writes one hell

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Speaker 1: of a great book. We've got a new one to

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Speaker 1: talk about. A nice Christmas present. Put it in your

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Speaker 1: stocking or maybe hand it over to a friend. The

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Speaker 1: Magical History Tour Murder Mystery, Buried History. That's the name

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Speaker 1: of the book. Collection of five stories about some wild

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Speaker 1: forgotten history here in southwest Ohio and the greater Cincinnati area,

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Speaker 1: plus what is described as a bonus mystery tour of

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Speaker 1: ten places to discover. So we'll read about a Wilmington

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Speaker 1: guy who survived a duel in gold rush California, named

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Speaker 1: a city in state, and tamed Bleeding Kansas, first serial

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Speaker 1: killer in Cincinnati, who became the first woman executed an

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Speaker 1: electric chair, among the stories in Peter Bronson's book. He's

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Speaker 1: going to be in studio at seven o five. I

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Speaker 1: love when he comes in the studio just a. I

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Speaker 1: can't say enough positive about Peter Bronson. And if you're

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Speaker 1: looking for a publisher, Chilidogpress dot com check that out.

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Speaker 1: That is his publishing company. You know you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: published when you own your unpublishing company. I just got

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Speaker 1: to point that out. Looking forward to having Peter around.

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Speaker 1: Sebastian Younger, Uh, he is doing an empower You seminar

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Speaker 1: on the ninth It's gonna be pretty wild. In my

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Speaker 1: time of dying, Sebastian Younger's reflection on death and what

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Speaker 1: might follow. That is the name of the of the

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Speaker 1: empower you seminar. He had a near death experience, near

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Speaker 1: fatal health emergency. Anyway, I've met, actually, I've talked to

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Speaker 1: folks who have had these sort of post death you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm always one of the inclined to not kind of

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Speaker 1: it's haunting and weird and make might make you reflect

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Speaker 1: a wild conversation. Sebastian eight oh five for that. So

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Speaker 1: day week and using the vacation days. Garrett Jeff Walker

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Speaker 1: covering for me on Monday. I got Dan Carroll covering

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday, and I'll be back on Wednesday up until

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Speaker 1: the twenty third, and Rob Ryder mister Cincinnati himself with

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Speaker 1: Christmas radio show on the twenty third, last day of

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Speaker 1: the year. For me, here we go. I really don't

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Speaker 1: know where I want to start, but I've been complaining

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Speaker 1: lot more when all these fraud bilking the federal taxpayer,

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Speaker 1: the fraud COVID nineteen fraud, fraud of the medicare, We've

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Speaker 1: one looking out for fraud, nobody, And it is with

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Speaker 1: a great concern I saw that there are now a

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Speaker 1: extension of the Obamacare subsidies, the ones that brought us

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Speaker 1: we're going to see real time what the actual cost

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Speaker 1: of Obamacare is, even for people making a thousand percent

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Speaker 1: above poverty level still getting a tax subsidy, those are

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Speaker 1: supposed to go away. Letter titled Common Ground twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 1: a bipartisan health care framework talks about extending the health

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Speaker 1: insurance premiums, Dear majority of fun. Here's the letter proposal

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Speaker 1: can outlining an extension of health insurance premium savings for

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Speaker 1: American families. Quote. It includes one year of enhanced premium

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Speaker 1: tax credits with targeted modifications and a second year of

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Speaker 1: continued health insurance premium savings for American families. Urges leadership

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Speaker 1: of both chambers to vote on legislation reducing the cost

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Speaker 1: of insurance by December eighteenth of this year. Now does

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Speaker 1: anybody think that there's an idea on Capitol Hill anywhere

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Speaker 1: that will reduce the actual cost of insurance by December

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Speaker 1: eighteenth of this year? It urges leadership to vote on it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe there is something floating around. I haven't seen it.

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Speaker 1: But reducing the cost of healthcare is different and is

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Speaker 1: a worthy goal, and I would like to see them

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Speaker 1: be able to do that. But is different than masking

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Speaker 1: the cost of this program, which is exactly what these

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Speaker 1: subsidies do. People are getting ready to defecate themselves over

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Speaker 1: the cost of Obamacare because the subsidies are going away

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Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, that's reality setting in. It's

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Speaker 1: a reflection of the failure of the program. Remember that

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Speaker 1: premium you're paying is well going to be paid every month,

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Speaker 1: insurance under it. It's a failed, stupid program. The letter

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Speaker 1: Premium Tax Credits eptc's, extension of the EPTC for enrollees

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Speaker 1: does not guarantee, a more guardrails to prevent fraud by

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Speaker 1: implementing something called the Insurance Fraud Accountability Act. So maybe

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Speaker 1: now here's the reality setting in. I've talked to Matt

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Speaker 1: Boyle quite a few times from Bright Bart and the

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Speaker 1: Inside Scoop. On Tuesday and they're at Washington. Beuer chief

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Speaker 1: Matt Boyle. Actually I talked to him recently. So the

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Speaker 1: Republicans would be surrendering mid terms if the premiums were

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Speaker 1: to increase. Here's the real problem politically. Let's be frank

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Speaker 1: go up. It's going to cause chaos. The poll numbers

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Speaker 1: are going to go down. That's surrender for the midterms.

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Speaker 1: The smart move for Republicans to do is take the

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Speaker 1: in the same way. The continuing Resolution the Republicans passed

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Speaker 1: which led to the shutdown, remember, maintained Biden era spending levels.

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Speaker 1: That was the thorn and massy side. You guys are

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Speaker 1: supposed to be whittling down the size of government, not

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Speaker 1: the arguments that the Democrats had because any cut in

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Speaker 1: They're gonna cut that we can't vote for this. Barber

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Speaker 1: They ultimately capitulated so that the tax credits are disappearing.

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Speaker 1: And now the disappearance of the tax credit has landed

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Speaker 1: expense or the increase in tax premiums. It's gonna cost

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Speaker 1: millions of people who otherwise wouldn't have been eligible and

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Speaker 1: the Democrats, the Democrats who will indeed promise to extend

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Speaker 1: these tax credit, expand them or make them forever tax credits.

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Speaker 1: What does that do? Does it fix healthcare? Does it

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Speaker 1: reduce the cost of health insurance? No, it just covers

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Speaker 1: that up and it puts the burden on the American taxpayer. Remember,

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Speaker 1: all this money is flowing into the coffers of the

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Speaker 1: insurance companies. I thought we all hated them. And then

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Speaker 1: there's the fraud. Oh really, yeah, I started talking about fraud, right,

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Speaker 1: that's the problem one of the problems here. So not

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Speaker 1: only do you have a wrecked system where the premiums

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Speaker 1: are going through the roof, people are ripping it off

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Speaker 1: left and right. Government Accountability Office issued this report over

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Speaker 1: the vulnerability of the Affordable Care Act exchanges, identifying significant

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Speaker 1: Government Accountability Office, preliminary results note preliminary because once they

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Speaker 1: Preliminary results from jo's ongoing covert testing covert they were

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Speaker 1: doing this on the downlow, suggests fraud risks in the

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Speaker 1: advanced Premium tax credits persist the ones that they want

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Speaker 1: to extend the federal marketplace to prove coverage for nearly

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Speaker 1: all of the GAO's fictitious applicants in playing years twenty

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Speaker 1: They set this up. They were testing the system years ago.

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Speaker 1: What was done since then to change the program to

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Speaker 1: prevent this from happening? Absolutely nothing. GORDLERPORTJO conducted undercover tests.

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Speaker 1: They created fictitious applicants with fake identities and fraudulent or

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Speaker 1: never used social Security numbers to see how the federal

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Speaker 1: marketplace would respond. Over the past couple of years, ninety nine,

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Speaker 1: zero ninety percent of the fake applicants were approved for

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Speaker 1: subsidized coverage despite lacking required documentation. They submitted four of

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Speaker 1: these fake applicants in twenty twenty four. They created fabricated applicants.

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Speaker 1: They were approved. They got ABT twenty three hundred and

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Speaker 1: the test for this year. They turned it into twenty

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Speaker 1: fake applicants, eighteen of them still enrolled as of September

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Speaker 1: Just a little test of the system and it failed miserably.

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Speaker 1: And there's more details to this, but the overall number

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Speaker 1: of dollars this equates to is astronomical, and the idea

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Speaker 1: that they're out there using socias security. Get a load

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Speaker 1: of this one. They looked at federal marketplace data found

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Speaker 1: more than twenty nine thousand SOCIS security numbers that showed

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Speaker 1: over a full year of subsidized coverage. This is justin

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Speaker 1: counter year twenty twenty three. Quote from the article describing

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Speaker 1: many times that had totaled more than twenty six thousand

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Speaker 1: five different insurance plans. That's the equivalent of seventy one

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Speaker 5: It's an invasion, in the Invasion of the Man Bones,

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Speaker 5: Hey, beautiful place to shop. And I tell you what

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Speaker 1: Yeah real quick here Tom is online one moment, Tom,

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Speaker 6: Well, she's certainly not going to hear anything negative on

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Speaker 6: Fren listen, don't forget about, don't forget about listener lunch

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Speaker 6: Yeah, right, help make his car payment. We don't we

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Speaker 6: I mean last time it was Speedway that but that

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Speaker 6: was it blinked blunt something like that. Blank, yeah, blink. So, uh,

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Speaker 6: we'll see how that goes. But the the prices north

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Speaker 6: of town are at least at that exit are really good.

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Speaker 6: They're yours for the taking your your your story about

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Speaker 6: the uh, the fraud, waste and abuse. It's just another

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Speaker 6: example of people have the mindset that as soon as

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Speaker 6: government gets involved, there's a bottomless pit of money. That

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Speaker 6: that is the the assumption made, and that goes into construction, uh,

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Speaker 6: welfare programs, pretty much anything that the government gets involved in.

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Speaker 6: Oh government, okay, we can jack the price up. Contractors

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Speaker 6: charge more when they're doing a government job, and and

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Speaker 6: so forth and so on, and we we have got

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Speaker 6: to do something about getting getting rid of that mindset.

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Speaker 6: Republicans aren't doing anything to help that either. They It

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Speaker 6: may not be as bad as Democrats, but it's still

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Speaker 6: I mean, there's Republicans out there that are that are

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Speaker 6: spending all kinds of money, you know, dropping it like

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Speaker 6: it's hot, whatever phrase you want to use, and and

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Speaker 6: and and you know at some point, all this is

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Speaker 6: gonna come back and bite us. It does every now

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Speaker 6: and then. And so the political expediency is, let's keep

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Speaker 6: kicking the can down the road so that this next

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Speaker 6: election won't hurt us, and then the next election won't

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Speaker 6: hurt us. And it's it's ridiculous. And you got people

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Speaker 6: like like Thomas Maskiy and Rampaul that are pulling their

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Speaker 6: hair out whatever's left of it, and like, guys, you don't,

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Speaker 6: I mean, don't you get what's going on here? And

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Speaker 6: and a lot of them probably do. They just they

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Speaker 6: just want to win that next election. And so, uh,

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Speaker 6: it's it's very frustrating. Uh we can sit here and

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Speaker 6: talk about all we want, but until we get people

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Speaker 6: in there who are willing to feel the pain politically

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Speaker 6: so that we can get deal with this correctly. Uh,

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Speaker 6: it's not nothing's gonna change. People are gonna keep trying

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Speaker 6: kick can down the road. So and you got to

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Speaker 6: really watch those people who are who are considerably wealthier

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Speaker 6: after they've been in office than they were before they

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Speaker 6: were in Uh. Yeah, that usually is a good sign.

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Speaker 6: That's something nefarious is going on. But everybody wants to

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Speaker 6: put their hand in that cookie jar. Everybody wants to

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Speaker 6: taste and oh, it's just government money. There's all kinds

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Speaker 6: of money. Just print more. Yeah, right, people, that's that's

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Speaker 6: an insane way of doing things. And because we just

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Speaker 6: keep running that get up and throwing money at it,

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Speaker 6: everybody thinks it's fine or enough people think it's fine.

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Speaker 1: Solutions not fine.

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Speaker 6: It has to stop. We got to fix it. There's

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Speaker 6: lots of solutions, but one of the solutions that we

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Speaker 6: definitely have to do is make sure don't vote Democrat.

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Speaker 6: Have a great weekend in time off rank.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Tom, appreciate it, look forward to it hopefully here

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Speaker 1: from you on Wednesday. You can feel free to call

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Speaker 1: five on three seven, four nine fifty five two three

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Speaker 1: going on at night seven pm. Gate of Heaven Cemetery's

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Speaker 1: Tidings of Comfort and Joy special evening featuring an Advent

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Speaker 1: is what it's all about. So get in the mood.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna hear from the here Advent Christmas music throughout

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Speaker 1: get every red in the car. Guests are encourage RSVP,

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Speaker 1: but it's too late to RSVP, so just show up.

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Speaker 1: I listened to the the RSVP day was a while back.

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Speaker 1: But that's okay. I know they can accommodate you. To

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Speaker 1: just go to Gateofeaven dot Org. Gateof Heaven dot Org tonight,

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Speaker 1: seven pm.

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Speaker 1: he is. I think Tom is right. He's staring at

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Speaker 1: the back of his eyelids right now, and good for him.

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Speaker 1: It's the day off. Throwing caution and his clothes into

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Speaker 1: the wind. A sixty six year old Minnesota man spotted

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Speaker 5: Naked party over here.

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Speaker 1: Police said the suspect has frequently been spotted naked by

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Speaker 1: his neighbors. PAULS. Severson charged with disorder the conduct and

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Speaker 1: connection with the new display outside of his residence in

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Speaker 1: the city of Lake Crystal. After reviewing multiple interviewing multiple witnesses,

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Speaker 1: sheriff debut he's observed a nude Severson appear from beside

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Speaker 1: a shed. Cop advised him that he could not be

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Speaker 1: naked outside with children around and people driving by. Neighbors

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Speaker 1: reported that Severson did yard work while nude, with one

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Speaker 1: eyewitness saying the suspect was chainsawing again while but as naked.

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Speaker 1: Named in a misdemeanor complained. A couple weeks after, the

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Speaker 1: witnesses told police that one of their children saw him

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Speaker 1: naked for the first time as the child rode the

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Speaker 1: bus to school that morning. What the hell is with

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Speaker 1: some people? Let's go to Florida for a drunk guy.

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Speaker 1: Southwest Florida, Florida man moment Corn of the Golf Coast

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Speaker 1: news Port, Charlotte location. Neighbor heard a bang on an

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Speaker 1: empty house next door, stepped outside, thinking maybe a raccoon

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Speaker 1: was involved with this antic instead found a mostly undressed man,

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Speaker 1: no shirts, no shoes, just loose shorts hanging on barely,

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Speaker 1: and he was allegedly trying to break into the empty house.

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Speaker 1: Not only that, but he apparently believed it was his

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Speaker 1: own house, even though his girlfriend and mother in law

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Speaker 1: were inside. Guess they were not there because he did

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Speaker 1: not live there. He actually lived a block and a

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Speaker 1: half away in a completely different neighborhood. Totally drunk GPS

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Speaker 1: malfunction of the brain, according to the reporters, tore the

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Speaker 1: trying to remember what planet he was on. He didn't

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Speaker 1: actually lived just around the corner of the only hope

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Speaker 1: that he stayed in his own home from that point forward. Arrested,

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Speaker 1: taking a gentle misdemeanor charge for loitering and prowling. So

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Speaker 1: Five fifty one fifty about KRCDCAUK station check part of

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Speaker 1: a man who had a death experience. I don't know

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Speaker 1: is stupid. We got a Kouli la on pour Our

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Speaker 1: Kalua Lampour where police found what is described as a

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Speaker 1: man only sex dan after a raid on a health

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Speaker 1: center Okay where they found two hundred and one naked

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Speaker 1: men who are alleged to have engaged in what they

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Speaker 1: described in the police report as unnatural acts. They also

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Speaker 1: arrested some employees there operating is a health center. And

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Speaker 1: again in Kuala Lamport, Malaysia, officers reportedly monitoring what is

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Speaker 1: called the Chow Kit establishment before ultimately rating the place

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Speaker 1: and finding the naked guys there. Cord to the reporting,

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Speaker 1: the men range in terms of their professions a teacher,

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Speaker 1: a prosecutor, a surgeon, a fifty three year old doctor

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Speaker 1: who told police he only came in there to, in

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Speaker 1: his words, heal and avoid the after work traffic jam.

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Speaker 1: That married doctor with kids said, I usually come here

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Speaker 1: to avoid the traffic after work. I can relax in

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Speaker 1: the sauna and jacuzzi for a while. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to comment on what I did, but yes, such activities

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Speaker 1: do take place here. I suppose that was a reference

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Speaker 1: to the unnatural acts that the police discovered. Also, they

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Speaker 1: discovered during the raid dozens of condoms and lubricant. The

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Speaker 1: men aged and range age range from nineteen years old

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Speaker 1: to sixty years old, with twenty four men being confirmed

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Speaker 1: as foreigners. Don't know what that means, but that's according

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Speaker 1: to Mothership Are, Singapore based publication, the quote unquote health

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Speaker 1: center did have equipment and facilities that would be used

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Speaker 1: in what they proceed to be a traditional health center,

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Speaker 1: which this obviously was not. Saunas Jacuzzi's Jim spat and

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Speaker 1: swimming pool guests were charged thirty five Malaysian ring it

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Speaker 1: that's their currency, plus some additional charges. Kuala Lamport, Deputy

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Speaker 1: Chief of Police to reporters the center attracts many local

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Speaker 1: and foreign customers, including men from s South Korea, Indonesia,

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Speaker 1: Germany and China. Eighty musslimen were investigated by the religious

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Speaker 1: authorities Undersection twenty nine of the Federal Territories Religious Act

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Speaker 1: were engaging in indecent activities at the center. Oh, they

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Speaker 1: got their own formul like Shuria law. That's where the

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Speaker 1: unnatural determination was made according to section twenty nine. I

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Speaker 1: guess this is an unnatural act. What is this? Use

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Speaker 1: your imagination? Got another naked burglary? You guy, We get

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Speaker 1: an naked pass or or with naked pass Grand's Pass, Oregon,

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Speaker 1: where there's a naked guy involved. Grand Pass Police Department

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Speaker 1: arrested naked burglary suspect in the morning of November twentieth,

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Speaker 1: two point thirty roughly got a call from a victim

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Speaker 1: in the on West Park Street stating an unknown man

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Speaker 1: in his forties had broken a window was crawling into

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Speaker 1: the residence. The man described as being naked with tattoos

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Speaker 1: and saying things like saving them from Hermes and the goddesses.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. John Well placed. Officers respond to the scene

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Speaker 1: found the suspect had already fled the residents by the

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Speaker 1: time they got there with a stolen blanket. Thankfully, the

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Speaker 1: adult victim and the two children were un harm suspect

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Speaker 1: reportedly had been injured by the broken glass that when

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Speaker 1: he broke into the residence. Canine partner Morrow Gotta Love

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Speaker 1: Dogs located the suspect in a hedge of a neighboring yard.

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Speaker 1: before being transported to the Three Rivers Medical Center to

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Speaker 1: deal with his wounds. Then he was taken off to

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Speaker 1: jail Justine County Jail, specifically identified as Patrick Hermes. So

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Speaker 1: I guess he was saving them from himself and goddesses,

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Speaker 1: I think drugs were involved again, taking a Justphine County

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about Hugo Carvel Hall Barrios and what he said.

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Speaker 1: He was the Venezuela in general, three star Venezuela and

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Speaker 1: General Director of Military Intelligence. Mmm. And it involves, among

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Speaker 1: other things, our voting system. Don't go away, be right back, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Just want to thank in advanced Garay Jeff Walker for

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Speaker 1: covering for me this coming Monday and Dan Carol covering

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Speaker 1: for me on Tuesday. Just using up the vacation days

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Speaker 1: like Joe Strecker's doing today. Sean McMahon's at the board.

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Speaker 1: So things are very well in hand, well covered to

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Speaker 1: Mari after purval. Yeah, he had his car repossessed last

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Speaker 1: year there since the any question about that. It may

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Speaker 1: evidence on that one signal ninety nine. Again props to you.

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Speaker 1: She'll probably let us all know and she will have

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Speaker 1: evidence if we have a photograph of his second car

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Speaker 1: being repossessed she'll actually give you a gift card worth

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Speaker 1: nice reward anyhow, question out loud, moving aside from the

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Speaker 1: fact that he did have his car repossessed for not payment,

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Speaker 1: how many payments do you have to miss before they

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Speaker 1: repossess your car? Isn't it a lot? I mean, it

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Speaker 1: just doesn't pull over after you miss one payment and

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Speaker 1: haul your car away, do they. That's got to go

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Speaker 1: on for a while. Anyway, Just asking out loud for

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Speaker 1: a friend, and I don't know if Moreen's listening. My

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Speaker 1: favorite pattern observer formerly conspiracy theorists, and I've heard many,

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Speaker 1: many people say that the smartmatic election voting system, compliments

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Speaker 1: of Venezuela is rigged and it can be altered, and

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Speaker 1: it is a big problem insofar as maybe elections being rigged.

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Speaker 1: If you can't count, don't have any confidence in your vote,

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Speaker 1: and your vote actually can be altered, then you have

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Speaker 1: a massive failure in the system, and one that can

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Speaker 1: lead to people, perhaps I don't know, questioning the integrity

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Speaker 1: of literally everything. So does with that, I turned to

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Speaker 1: this and it's been widely reported. This isn't just from

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Speaker 1: some fringe media outlet. Miami Harold and Post and other

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Speaker 1: sort of accepted generally accepted outlets have been reporting on

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Speaker 1: this describes as an explosive development. Hugo Carva Hall Barrios,

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Speaker 1: formerly a three star Venezuela in general and director of

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Speaker 1: Military Intelligence, issued a confession from prison which seems to

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Speaker 1: validate a lot of what Donald Trump is trying to

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Speaker 1: do in Venezuela and the surrounding areas, blowing up drug votes.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a moment. We know every route,

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Speaker 1: we know every house, Trump said on Wednesday, talking about

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Speaker 1: a narco terrorist, and I believe that's right. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: his statement says the Venezuelan regime operates as what the

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Speaker 1: General calls the Cartel of the Suns, described as a

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Speaker 1: state sponsored criminal enterprise designed to weaponize drugs and other

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Speaker 1: tools against America. Former Michigan Senator Patrick Colbeck characterized the

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Speaker 1: general statement as turning state's evidence. He said, I absolutely

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Speaker 1: support President Trump's policy towards Venezuela because it is in

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Speaker 1: self defense and he is acting based on the truth

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Speaker 1: the regime. I Hugo Carve Hall Barrios served is not

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Speaker 1: merely hostile. It is at war with you, using drugs, gangs, espionage,

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Speaker 1: and your own democratic processes as a weapon. He says,

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Speaker 1: Trump's policies against maduro criminal regime are not just justified,

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Speaker 1: but necessary and proportionate to the threat. Now, I will

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Speaker 1: acknowledge the guy's locked up in prison on charges, okay,

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Speaker 1: And he seems to admit to the charges he's been

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Speaker 1: accused of. Maybe he's using this as a vehicle to

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Speaker 1: try to get some leniency. I don't know, but I'm

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Speaker 1: willing to acknowledge that potential exists. But here's what he

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Speaker 1: has to say. Since twenty twenty one, over quarter of

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Speaker 1: a million Americans have died from Ovidos's Yes ventnyl is.

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Speaker 1: The reason is the result of a deliberate policy coordinated

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Speaker 1: between Venezuela Cuba farc ELN and his Balla farc and

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Speaker 1: ELN far left Marxist Leninist Girla groups founded in Colombia.

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Speaker 1: His Balla of course, from Lebanon. She had Muslim political party,

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Speaker 1: militant group as well as a social movement. Says here

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Speaker 1: the most alarming, perhaps the most alarming point that this

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Speaker 1: carvel hauled guy made. He directly addresses the election security,

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Speaker 1: stating unequivocally that Smartmatic, the company whose technology is incorporated

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Speaker 1: into Dominion ESNs and Heart inter Civic voting Systems, was

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Speaker 1: created as an electoral tool for the Venezuelan regimes. All

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Speaker 1: three tabular systems are used in Michigan elections and nationwide. Here,

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Speaker 1: he says, quote I Carba hall I placed the head

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Speaker 1: of it of the National Electoral Council in his position,

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Speaker 1: and he reported directly to me the Smartmatic system can

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Speaker 1: be altered. This is a fact. Now, he does not

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Speaker 1: claim that every election is stolen. He doesn't even point

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Speaker 1: any specific election that has been stolen. He only points

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Speaker 1: to what he says is a fact that the system

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Speaker 1: can be altered, presumably the software, the tabulation. He warned

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Speaker 1: that the software has been used to rig elections, saying

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Speaker 1: the Massouro regime operates operators maintain current relationships with American

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Speaker 1: election officials as well as voting machine companies current operators

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Speaker 1: with Maduro. His confession also exposes the trendy Aragua gang

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Speaker 1: you've heard of them right, says it's a deliberate export

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Speaker 1: of Venezuelan state violence. Says he witnessed first hand, Hamaduro

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Speaker 1: exploited the open border policies to flood America with gang

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Speaker 1: operators who continue operating under regime orders. The regime I

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Speaker 1: served is not merely hostile, It is at war with you.

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Speaker 1: Hum So obviously I mean the voting system allegations, you know,

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Speaker 1: supportive of what a lot of people have been saying

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Speaker 1: for a long time, which I have always pivoted over

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Speaker 1: and said, well, you know what, I hear the claims

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Speaker 1: that they can be rigged. But every time I talked

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Speaker 1: to maybe our Secretary of State or other people reporting

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Speaker 1: on this, no, no, no, they're not connected anything. They

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Speaker 1: can't be modered or modified or altered. But if there's

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Speaker 1: a potential, why would we use them. This is why

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Speaker 1: many people like myself clamor for a paper ballot that

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Speaker 1: will be and can be kept. You got that here

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Speaker 1: in Ohio. They collect the ballots. It is artificial or

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Speaker 1: rather artificial intelligence, or electronically tabulated, but they got the

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Speaker 1: paper ballots piled high in case something goes wrong with

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Speaker 1: the system. Now it seems to me you should do

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Speaker 1: a statistical sampling of all of the ballots, just to

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Speaker 1: make sure that aligns with the actual tabulation in the system.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's being done, but if this

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Speaker 1: guy is saying it can be manipulated, the possibility of

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Speaker 1: that is enough for me to get freaked out. Recognizing

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00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: full well on a tear on fraud, waste, and abuse,

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00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: and government more and more gets revealed each and every day,

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00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,919
Speaker 1: nobody in elected capacity seems to give a crap about

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Speaker 1: the potential for fraud, waste and abuse, or in this

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Speaker 1: particular case, whether the election can be modified or altered.

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Speaker 1: Why would you use a system that can be give me,

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Speaker 1: please my elected officials those responsible assurances that this is

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Speaker 1: an impossibility, And I don't know that I've ever heard

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Speaker 1: that before. So Popcorn definitely out on this one. And

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Speaker 1: again I will acknowledge you maybe using this for self

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Speaker 1: serving benefits, but he's gonna have to back up his

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Speaker 1: words with some facts. And I like to think someone

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Speaker 1: is looking into this. Someone three seven eight hundred eight

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Speaker 1: Get a load of this one related to that, not

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Speaker 1: at all. Now they found the alleged pipe bomber. Right,

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Speaker 1: We've been looking for this guy forever, While apparently the

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Speaker 1: Biden administration was not looking for him. According to Panmbondi's

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Speaker 1: announcement Jesse yesterday, no new information was gathered to finally

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Speaker 1: How many five years ago? They had this video since then,

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Speaker 1: and apparently if you just follow the paper trail, on

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Speaker 1: the video trail, on the electronic evidence trail, you could

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Speaker 1: don't know much at all about this guy than he

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Speaker 1: I presume that by now you've heard about the Minneapolis

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Speaker 1: scam again, going back to fraud, waste and abuse and government. Uh,

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Speaker 1: if you have the opportunity, the entire op ed piece

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Speaker 1: from the editorial board at the Wall Street Journal is

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Speaker 1: a good thing to read. It's the Great Entitlement State

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Speaker 1: grift subheading the Giant Minnesota fraud shows the GOP reformers

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Speaker 1: are right. And so they recount all of these eighty

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Speaker 1: six individuals who've been charged with defrauding Medicaid and the

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Speaker 1: federal child Upristian program in Minnesota, stealing lunch money from children.

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Speaker 1: Even one of the defendinsone attorneys said no one was

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Speaker 1: doing anything about the red flags. It was like someone

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Speaker 1: was stealing money from the cookie jar and they kept

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Speaker 1: refilling it. Yes, that is one of the defendant's attorneys

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Speaker 1: saying that. So after the recount all of this unbelievable

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Speaker 1: fraud that was going on, and everything was going on,

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Speaker 1: some illustrations and details about some of the individuals, they

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Speaker 1: I said, we reported, we have. The Journal reported on

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Speaker 1: the Biden administration's Medicaid waivers that let states use federal

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Speaker 1: funds to pay for housing, food, transportation, sports fees, and

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Speaker 1: even Native American herbal remedies and exorcisms. There's your federal

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Speaker 1: tax dollars at work. The Biden team wanted to give

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Speaker 1: states more federal dollars to spend on social services without

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Speaker 1: having Congress appropriate the money. Welcome to COVID. Nineteen trillions

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Speaker 1: of dollars thrown out into this system without any oversight.

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Speaker 1: Now here's where the problem runs. And I think we

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Speaker 1: probably had this problem going on the state of Ohio.

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Speaker 1: Medicaid spending runs on autopilot, like Medicare and Social Security.

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Speaker 1: Most states get between one and nine federal dollars for

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Speaker 1: every one dollar they spend on the program. Now, what

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Speaker 1: do you think that's going to lead to this large

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Speaker 1: federal match? Is a disincentive to police fraud? Yes, of

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Speaker 1: course it is. How much more hasn't been uncovered because

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Speaker 1: nobody looked, great question in how many different programs? Democrats

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Speaker 1: flaying the mess in Minnesota on the rush to distribute

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Speaker 1: COVID relief, they say, you know, that's doubtful. Federal and

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Speaker 1: state prosecutors in New York this year have charged dozens

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Speaker 1: of companies for fraudulently building medicaid, for driving beneficiaries to

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Speaker 1: appointments never occurred, or for it inflate mileage of the trips.

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Speaker 1: Trump's been highlighting the alleged Minnesota scammers and the fact

907
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Speaker 1: that they're ethnic Somalis, and it is true the Journal

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Speaker 1: points out that Minnesota's generous welfare state has become a

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Speaker 1: magnet for Somali immigrants. But good point they're making. The

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Speaker 1: main problem here isn't ethnicity or migration. Its incentives for

911
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Speaker 1: indolence and fraud at the heart of the welfare state.

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Speaker 1: All that free money with few guard rails is an

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Speaker 1: invitation to theft. They point out that the GOP tax bill

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Speaker 1: made modest reforms to reduce fraud, like requiring states to

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Speaker 1: verify Medicaid eligibility twice a year, putting states on the

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Speaker 1: hook for a share of the improper food stamp payments. Democrats,

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Speaker 1: of course, opposed both of those and called them cruel

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Speaker 1: efforts to faredout fraud, waste, and abuse. Describe as cruel

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Speaker 1: and here's the point and props to the Journal for

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Speaker 1: saying it out Loudocrats won't acknowledge fraud because they want

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Speaker 1: more Americans on the dole welfare central to their political

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Speaker 1: business model. Republicans who make this scandal about immigration or

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Speaker 1: missing the point and missing an opportunity to educate Americans

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Speaker 1: about the entitlement state grift. So I brought it up

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Speaker 1: in the context of those Obamacare supplements that Republicans are

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Speaker 1: now considering extending because they're fearful they might lose the

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Speaker 1: because they're taking people getting a subsidy that make one

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Speaker 1: my friend, Happy for.

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Speaker 3: Right, Happy Friday, Brian, Always good to.

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Speaker 1: Be here, always good to talk to you. Let's start

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Speaker 1: with this local fan. You get a local story on

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Speaker 1: a Venmo scam. I don't do Venmo, so I guess

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Speaker 1: I'm in a probably a good place for staying the

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Speaker 1: hell away from those types of software apps.

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Speaker 3: You know, Brian that's a I think that's a good

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Speaker 3: place to be. I don't use for any of these

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Speaker 3: things either. And I want to start out and just

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Speaker 3: tell people when you use any of these sort of apps, right,

989
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Speaker 3: especially if you don't understand the terms of service, and

990
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Speaker 3: you know, those are usually difficult to understand, kind of

991
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Speaker 3: it confused opoly and that sort of thing, you are

992
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Speaker 3: putting yourself at substantial risk because in most cases you

993
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 3: have little and or no protection whatsoever. You know, when

994
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 3: you use a credit card, there's some consumer protections around that.

995
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Speaker 3: That's why, you know, people that understand finance will usually

996
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Speaker 3: tell you even though you have to be concerned about

997
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Speaker 3: the debt component, you know, don't overspace, and it's better

998
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Speaker 3: to shop with a credit card because you have some

999
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Speaker 3: consumer protection versus.

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Speaker 1: A debit card.

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00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:10,280
Speaker 3: With these digital payment apps, you off zero consumer protection whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: And you know, many many people have lost enormous amounts

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Speaker 3: of money. So my advice is always to folks, and

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Speaker 3: I get you know, my kids love this stuff. I

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Speaker 3: try to talk them out of using it. I had

1006
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Speaker 3: very little luck there, Brian, And I'm I'm sure you

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Speaker 3: might might know when when you talk to your kids

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Speaker 3: about these things. Although I know your son is fairly technical.

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Speaker 1: He can handle it. Yeah, I just have to interject

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Speaker 1: because she is listening, and good luck mom. Mom will

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Speaker 1: be taking her first Uber ride today that she arranged

1012
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Speaker 1: for to her lunch appointment, so or she will be right. Yep,

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Speaker 1: she's not nervous about the ride itself. She's not worried

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Speaker 1: for her safety. But this is her very first foray

1015
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Speaker 1: into the into Uber. But that involves an app, which

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Speaker 1: she of course had to put on her phone. I

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Speaker 1: think my son put the app on her phone for her.

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 3: And you know, the thing is, Brian, if you don't

1020
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Speaker 3: understand how to configure these things. And there was some

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Speaker 3: issue with NMO years ago where like every transaction you

1022
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Speaker 3: made was public by default, so if someone knew what

1023
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Speaker 3: they were looking for, you know, they could find pretty

1024
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Speaker 3: much all the money you spent. I'm not saying that's

1025
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Speaker 3: necessarily bad, but do you really want that information out there?

1026
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Speaker 3: And you know, could that be valuable to bad guys

1027
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Speaker 3: in some way to say, okay, you regularly do this thing,

1028
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Speaker 3: We're going to send you an email, carefully crafted phishing

1029
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Speaker 3: email or text that's designed to look like it came

1030
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Speaker 3: from this place that you know, interact with on a

1031
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Speaker 3: regular basis. Oh there's a problem with your account. You know,

1032
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Speaker 3: it's so important for people to remember the bad actors

1033
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Speaker 3: in almost all of these cases are really just professional

1034
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Speaker 3: con artists who are now reaching you through technology. They'll

1035
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Speaker 3: tell you any lie, they'll say whatever they have to say.

1036
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Speaker 3: You know, they'll in some cases these search you so

1037
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Speaker 3: they know what to say, they know how to say it.

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Speaker 3: They'll pivot to any topic as soon as you try

1039
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Speaker 3: to start to question what they're telling you. So, you know,

1040
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Speaker 3: I understand the convenience of something like menmo, I really do. However,

1041
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 3: I just there's so much risk because people don't understand

1042
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Speaker 3: how to configure these things correctly. They don't understand what

1043
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Speaker 3: they're up against in terms of the todd artists that

1044
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 3: are out there constantly scamming people for this stuff. And again,

1045
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 3: you have little to no consumer protection. So if you

1046
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Speaker 3: somehow make a mistake and your money is gone, I

1047
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Speaker 3: can almost guarantee you when you call your bank are

1048
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Speaker 3: going to say, so let me get let me see

1049
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Speaker 3: if I understand this correctly, you authorize this transaction.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, you're out of luck, period. And the story yes, yeah.

1051
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Speaker 3: It's really, you know, until this stuff gets a lot

1052
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Speaker 3: more mature, and until people are much more knowledgeable about

1053
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Speaker 3: the scams that are out there and how these things work,

1054
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Speaker 3: and or until there are more consumer protections when you

1055
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Speaker 3: use these types of payments. I would strongly encourage you

1056
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Speaker 3: to stay away from these things.

1057
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Speaker 1: Well real quick here, Yeah, stay away from them, to

1058
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Speaker 1: avoid the scams that can go along with them. Briefly,

1059
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Speaker 1: because in the interest of time, how exactly were people

1060
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Speaker 1: scammed on this? Uh?

1061
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Speaker 3: In this in this particular case, Uh, somebody's house burned down,

1062
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Speaker 3: and then scammers set up take profiles and sent out

1063
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Speaker 3: you know, hey, help this family, and you know, the

1064
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Speaker 3: money went somewhere else.

1065
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Speaker 1: Oh, using a venmo mechanism to make the donation.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so I wanted the tips here. You know, donate

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Speaker 3: to Venmo Charity Council, which have been em vetted and

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Speaker 3: Anyone can claim to be a charity. You know, anyone

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Speaker 1: Brian, especially this time of the year tech scams and

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Speaker 1: you know, as well as just simple porch pirate scams.

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Speaker 1: This has gone through the roof as well. I don't

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Speaker 1: And that's probably in the end of that too. Can

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Speaker 1: keep your eyes. Don't have the resources to go after

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Speaker 1: I doubt they're going after the guy who's the porch

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Speaker 1: pirate for your Amazon delivery. Tech Friday's Dave Hatter is

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Speaker 1: It's a forty fifty five krosceed via talk station. By

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Speaker 1: the time it's with Dave Hatter, interest it dot COM's

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Speaker 1: Dave Hatter. Appreciate the sponsoring segment. Appreciate the sage, wisdom

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Speaker 1: and information and your encouragement for people to well save

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Speaker 1: themselves and from themselves by avoiding a lot of things,

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Speaker 1: including let us repeat for the umpteenth time, Dave Hatter says,

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Speaker 1: don't give your kids AI toys. But now you've got

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Speaker 1: some really high level support here, including a coalition of

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Speaker 1: leading child development specialists which are saying the same thing,

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Speaker 1: Dave Hatter.

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Speaker 3: Haha, Yeah, I'm sure this is a shocker. And you know, Brian,

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Speaker 3: I would go a step further than just the AI toys.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's in the headlines now, and I know we've

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Speaker 3: talked about this recently, but the whole idea of internet

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Speaker 3: connected toys are not new, and I mean digital flash

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Speaker 3: electronic toys have been around for a long time. You know,

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Speaker 3: as a kid from the late seventies and early eighties,

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Speaker 3: I can remember like Teddy Ruckspin and the Little Professor

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Speaker 3: and all these, you know, toys that were digital. But

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Speaker 3: obviously there was no practical Internet for the average person

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Speaker 3: at that time, so you didn't have to worry about

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Speaker 3: is your kid in their room talking to some stranger

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Speaker 3: halfway across the world.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, pul our age. Remember the g I. Joe's

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Speaker 1: and the six million dollar Man figures. You had to

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Speaker 1: pull a chord. You pull a cord and it had

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Speaker 1: a recording inside it that would play. Yeah, okay, like

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Speaker 1: to reveal my age, go ahead, Dave, I'm sorry, quite.

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Speaker 3: The advanced tech back then, but you know when your

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Speaker 3: kid was using one of these, like I had this thing,

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Speaker 3: you may remember this. It looked like a little Robtons.

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Speaker 3: I think it was called XL eight or something, and

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Speaker 3: it played educational eight tracks where it would it had

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Speaker 3: like four buttons and it would ask you a question

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Speaker 3: you would pick from one of these buttons, but it

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Speaker 3: would also play regular eight tracks. I could remember playing

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Speaker 3: the teen Simmons solo album on it. But anyhow, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean it was it was very advanced for its time,

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Speaker 3: especially for like an educational toy. But again it couldn't

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Speaker 3: connect to anything else. The content that you could access

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Speaker 3: to it was limited to whatever content was on these tapes.

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Speaker 3: And you didn't have strangers halfway across the world watching

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Speaker 3: your kid at night through the camera and listening to

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Speaker 3: your kids through the microphone. So you know, these IoT

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Speaker 3: Internet of things, so called smart devices have been embedded

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Speaker 3: in toys now for probably a good decade. There was

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Speaker 3: a big kerfluffle over like an internet connected Barbie at

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Speaker 3: one point, and you know, there had been numerous examples.

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Speaker 3: If you go out and looks of all kinds of toys,

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Speaker 3: some fairly one of the manufacturers that were Internet capable

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Speaker 3: that have had issues. But whether it has AI in

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Speaker 3: or not, I would just rely Folks, if you give

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Speaker 3: your kids some kind of toy like this, a your

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Speaker 3: ability to control what they do through it versus let's

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Speaker 3: say a phone or a tablet or a computer is

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Speaker 3: probably little to none. The ability to understand what they

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01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 3: have done on it previously probably little to none. Do

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Speaker 3: you know how to set it up? Do you know

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Speaker 3: how to make sure it's getting software updates so that

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Speaker 3: in the future, bad guys can't exploit of some sort

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Speaker 3: of utterability that either affects your kid or potentially affects you,

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Speaker 3: because let's say you might be working from home and

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Speaker 3: these devices are connected to the same network, and they

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Speaker 3: could perhaps be exploited to get to your devices. So

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Speaker 3: that all of that stuff is not new right now,

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Speaker 3: you're throw in the angle that some of these toys.

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Speaker 3: You know, it might look like a Teddy bear or something.

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Speaker 3: It's the modern version of the Teddy ruckspin, And now

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Speaker 3: it connects to some AI chatbot or something, and your

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Speaker 3: kid can interact with this thing, talk to it, you

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Speaker 3: know whatever. Do you really want the conversations your kid

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Speaker 3: is having with this thing permanently recorded? If you are

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Speaker 3: a neighbor, do you want your kid going to the

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Speaker 3: neighbor's house and having a conversation with the kid. Now

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Speaker 3: your kid's conversation is recorded. The parents' conversations are recorded,

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Speaker 3: you know, and when I see recorded, I'm not saying

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Speaker 3: the audio necessarily, although that might be, but certainly the

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Speaker 3: interaction is going into the LLM model somewhere. And then

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Speaker 3: there's the whole as these consumer advocates put it out,

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Speaker 3: issue of Okay, you know, the kids starts asking about

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Speaker 3: things you'd rather than not ask about. Again, you're not

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Speaker 3: going to have any visibility into this over time like

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Speaker 3: you might if they were on a computer. Maybe, And

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Speaker 3: you know, as researchers have seen now, many of them

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Speaker 3: have tried to push the limits to see what these

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Speaker 3: things would say. But you know, they talk about sex.

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Speaker 3: In one case, I think we talked about this last week.

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Speaker 3: The guy was purposely trying to see what it would

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Speaker 3: tell him, and they started asking about dies. And the

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Speaker 3: thing is telling what he the AI thinks. It's talking

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Speaker 3: to the extended things. It's talking to a kid and

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Speaker 3: telling them, you know where to get knives in their house.

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Speaker 3: So you know, the idea that you're going to buy

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Speaker 3: these things and give them to children, to me just

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Speaker 3: seems completely insane.

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Speaker 1: Job abuse.

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Speaker 3: It's all of the other smart smart device, Internet of

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Speaker 3: things risks that come along with it, and now you're

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Speaker 3: going to add in the potential airis on top of it.

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Speaker 3: I think it's just it's crazy. There is no chance,

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't have kids or grandkids that would

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Speaker 3: be in an age range where I would buy something

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Speaker 3: like this, But there's I would not even consider it,

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Speaker 3: and I would as again we are today. I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to talk to people out of or at least you

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Speaker 3: should vet something like this incredibly carefully right by it,

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Speaker 3: but I would tell you no chance, do not buy something.

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Speaker 1: Well, and given the knowledge you passed along all of

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Speaker 1: it very factually based and well documented, with incident after

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Speaker 1: incident after incident, and of perverts out there telling your

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Speaker 1: children to cut themselves or film themselves naked or whatever,

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Speaker 1: I would think it's it is, you know, undeniably an

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Speaker 1: act of negligence to give your children access to one

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Speaker 1: of these types of devices. Yeah, it's the.

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Speaker 3: Less so called smart devices you have in your environment

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01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 3: for people in any age, the better because the incentives

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01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 3: to the consumer are completely backwards. These things are made

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01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 3: to be easy to use, you know, the manufacturers want

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Speaker 3: speed to market, they want market share, they want revenue.

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01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 3: They're not focused on your privacy and security. And in

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Speaker 3: many cases, you know, your privacy is being violated, at

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01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 3: least in a general sense, because they want to collect

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01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 3: as much data from you to monetize it because that

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01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,719
Speaker 3: helps offset the cost of the product and creates ongoing revenue,

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Speaker 3: you know, above and beyond whatever you paid for the device.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, collateral damage to your children, be damned. We want

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Speaker 1: our data. We don't care about you know, perverts out there,

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01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 1: getting in touch with them. Moving Dave back. Apparently Apple

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Speaker 1: is warning its iPhone users about some well calls that

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Speaker 1: you shouldn't be taking. So we'll bring that back next.

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Speaker 1: need to have in this segment about Apple, which is

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Speaker 1: normally a high, higher level security thing. But I just

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Speaker 1: wish these criminals would put as much effort toward legitimate

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Speaker 1: enterprise as they do to ripping us all off, but

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Speaker 1: apparently ripping us off as far more lucrative. What's this

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Speaker 1: is a pretty complicated one from my perspective there, Dave,

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Speaker 1: so explain this to us, this targeted attack thing.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so Forbes recently reported on this, and they're not

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Speaker 8: the only ones. Again, Apple has put out warnings and

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Speaker 8: it's it's so important because this is a recurring theme.

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Speaker 8: I mean, as far back as I can remember, these

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Speaker 8: kind of scams have been rampant, but apparently now they're targeted.

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Speaker 3: Towards Apple users. Saw let's read real quick from the

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Speaker 3: Forbes article, a new alerts an issue to attackers unleas

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Speaker 3: quote and genius Apple service hos unquote convincing users that

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Speaker 3: account is under attacked. It came to light via Apple

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Speaker 3: Insider and the guy who reported on it there, who

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Speaker 3: said he quote almost lost everything for this email, entire

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Speaker 3: digital life to the most sophisticated fishing attack he'd ever seen.

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Speaker 3: So basically what happened is he got a text that

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Speaker 3: appears to be from an Apple. Now I've said this

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Speaker 3: a million times to you and anyone that will listen, Brian,

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Speaker 3: it is incredibly simple to create a spoofed text. When

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Speaker 3: you hear the term spoofing in this context, it means

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Speaker 3: creating something could be an email, could be a website,

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Speaker 3: could be a text message, could be a call from

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Speaker 3: a phone number. It looks legitimate to the naked eye,

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Speaker 3: but it's fake. So he gets a text that looks

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Speaker 3: like an MSA code, Then he gets another text, and

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Speaker 3: then he gets a phone call claiming to be from Apple.

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Speaker 3: So these look like someone's trying to log into his account.

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Speaker 3: So that's the first angle, right, the spoofing. Now the

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Speaker 3: second angle, social engineering. Hey, it looks like someone might

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Speaker 3: be trying to log into your account because you're getting

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Speaker 3: these multi factor authentication codes you did not initiate. So

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Speaker 3: they setting you up to say, well, yeah, I saw

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Speaker 3: these codes. Well this is Apple Support. Looks like someone's

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Speaker 3: trying to hack your account. We want to help you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well pause, pause, pause, okay, real quick. First off,

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Speaker 1: if I got that the code that I didn't ask for,

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Speaker 1: I got the code, which meaning the bad guys didn't

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Speaker 1: get it, it's on my phone. I would just delete

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Speaker 1: that and move on with my day. Second, to your point,

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Speaker 1: you get a call from Apple, Dave, how many people

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Speaker 1: do you think have an Apple device in the world? Ah,

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Speaker 1: and do you think they have a support staff, whether

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Speaker 1: it's in pun Job or Quiland, poor or anyplace else

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Speaker 1: in the world, that can handle calling each individual Apple

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Speaker 1: phone user to let them know that there's a problem.

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Speaker 3: No, no, they don't.

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Speaker 1: Are they monitoring it real time? On our behalf? Would

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Speaker 1: they ever make a phone call.

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Speaker 9: To you or I? Right?

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Speaker 3: You know, Brian, you asked the question, are they monitoring

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Speaker 3: at real time? Maybe?

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Speaker 1: Are they?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not? And you know Apple has said, as has

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Speaker 3: Google and Microsoft and others. You know so from an

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Speaker 3: Apple press release, Apple says, don't answer suspicious calls or

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Speaker 3: messages claiming to be from Apple. Instead contact Apples directly

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Speaker 3: through our official support channel. Google has said the same thing.

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Speaker 3: Microsoft has said the same thing. You know, the FBI

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Speaker 3: will tell you the same thing. Attacked again, this is

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Speaker 3: from the Forbes article. The FBI is very clear on

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Speaker 3: this as well. Quote know, the legitimate companies will never

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Speaker 3: call you and offer you text support out of the blue.

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Speaker 3: If you get a call like this, hang up. No,

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Speaker 3: they don't have the resources to do this. They're not

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Speaker 3: You're not going to get a call out of the blue. Now. Again,

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Speaker 3: this has this extra twist. It's not just a phone

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Speaker 3: call telling you there's a problem with your computer, your

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01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 3: phone or whatever. They have sent text be legitimate messages

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01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 3: with security codes from Apple or Google fill in the

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01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 3: blank right in this case to catch you off guard.

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01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 3: So when you get that call from the continent artist

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01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 3: somewhere in a third world country who wants to get

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Speaker 3: into your Apple account, knowing that that will probably eventually

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Speaker 3: lead to your bank account and your entire digital life.

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Speaker 3: That that guy says, because you know, if I can

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Speaker 3: get your Apple ID and I can take over your

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01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 3: Apple account, I can lock you out of it, and

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Speaker 3: then I essentially have unlimited time to try to get

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Speaker 3: into all your own accounts. Now I'm in there, We'll

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Speaker 3: send the reset code for email all that stuff, right,

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Speaker 3: because people will. I don't think they often connect the

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Speaker 3: dots that if I get an account like your Apple

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Speaker 3: account or your email account, once I'm in your email

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Speaker 3: account and lock you out, I can just go through it. Hey, look,

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Speaker 3: you've got a password reset from Amazon, you got a

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01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 3: password reset from Fifth Third Bank. I'm going to ask

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Speaker 3: for a password reset. It's now coming to me because

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Speaker 3: I'm in control of your email account. Once I reset

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Speaker 3: the password on your bank account, guess what, I just

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01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 3: stole all your money. So again, I don't think people

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Speaker 3: often think far enough ahead to connect the dots of

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Speaker 3: what it would mean to have their email compromise. In

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Speaker 3: today's world, where everything is connected to that. It's one

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Speaker 3: of the reasons why it's better to have more than

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Speaker 3: one email account, so that maybe the stammy stuff, the

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Speaker 3: less important stuff, is going to a different account than

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Speaker 3: the really critical one so that you can protect it

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Speaker 3: very carefully. But again they're setting you up here with

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01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 3: these fake texts. I can write a program that will

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Speaker 3: just generate fake messages like this all day long, billions

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Speaker 3: of people day law yes.

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Speaker 1: Hoping that day you've convinced me. I'm just praying to

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01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 1: God that at least one person today got enlightenment from

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Speaker 1: you and saves themselves from themselves and doesn't fall prey

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Speaker 1: to these kind of crazy hoaxes because there is a

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Speaker 1: there are a multitude of them. Thank you for bringing

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Speaker 1: them to our attention every Friday on Tech Friday, Dave Patter,

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Speaker 1: thank you to intrust I, your company for sponsoring the

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Speaker 1: segment interest it dot Com. To each Dave, Dave, I'll

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Speaker 1: look forward to having you back on the show next Friday,

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Speaker 1: and I hope you have a fantastic weekend. My friend,

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Speaker 1: always my.

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Speaker 3: Pleasure, Brian, send to you and all your listeners, and

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Speaker 3: I'll look forward to next week.

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Speaker 1: Care brother in studio, I'm staring at him. The return

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Speaker 1: of Peter Bronson, Magical History Tour, Murder Mystery, Buried History.

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Speaker 1: He's got a brand new book out. We're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about an excellent stocking stuff for for my listener friends.

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Speaker 1: Full Hour with Peter Bronson. You're gonna love it.

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Speaker 10: I know.

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Speaker 1: I will stick around Today's top headlines coming up at

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Speaker 1: very happy variety to you, even extra special as I

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Speaker 1: look across the board here and see my dear friend,

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Speaker 1: brilliant man. He is Peter Bronson. He was with The

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Speaker 1: Inquirer and he has written a million books. He's got

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Speaker 1: his own publishing company, Chili Dog Press dot Com, which

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Speaker 1: if you're if you want to published a book, if

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Speaker 1: you have your own publishing company, he makes it really easy.

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Speaker 1: But Peter bron said, great to see you man. Good

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Speaker 1: to see you, Brian. It's always good to be with you.

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Speaker 1: I love talking with you. I love your books, and

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Speaker 1: I encourage my listeners. If you want to see all

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Speaker 1: the books he's written, get a synopsis of them. Just

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Speaker 1: buy them. You're gonna love each and every one of them.

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Speaker 1: Just go over to Amazon and type in Peter Bronson.

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Speaker 1: We've got a new one to talk about today. Magical History, Tour, Murder, Mystery,

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Speaker 1: Buried History. It sounds like a hell of a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun. I'm sure he had a great time writing

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Speaker 1: about it. So we're going to talk about that in

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Speaker 1: a second. But first, and I know we've always been impacted.

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Speaker 1: Everybody has been impacted by at least one person in

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Speaker 1: a life, profoundly so. And in terms of my education,

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Speaker 1: and I've given this guy lots of props over the years.

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01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,679
Speaker 1: Chuck Berkolts, who's my government professor back in high school.

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Speaker 1: He really motivated you to think and engage. Socratic method

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Speaker 1: was a lot of what he used in class. He's

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons, well less than my father, but

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons I really took a keen interest

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Speaker 1: in politics. And he asked me to make this announcement

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01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 1: because he lives over in Cleeves. It's the Village of Cleves.

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Speaker 1: Christmas Walk it's this Saturday, starts at eleven am on

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Speaker 1: South Miami Avenue. Okay, Cleaves Christmas Walk. There's gonna be

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Speaker 1: live music all day. Mike Davis, who graduated high school

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01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 1: with me at the same class. He does Elvis, So

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Speaker 1: you have Elvis and perposonator Mike Davis. You got unique

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01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 1: treasures and craft shows. You can take a ride in

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Speaker 1: the festive horse drawn carriage. Lots of food there and

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01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 1: a chance to get a photo with cincinnta red mascot,

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01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 1: Rosie and Gopper. Five point thirty PM. That'll happen. So

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Speaker 1: Cleaves is the place to be again, beginning at eleven am.

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01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 1: Jock Barkolts love you man, hope you have a very

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01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 1: successful event. Now over the Magical History Tour. I saw

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01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 1: the synopsis on this the first time I've even seen

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01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 1: the book. It's in my hand right now. Thank you

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01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 1: Peter for signing my copy. This is five short stories.

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01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 1: Now you've done other books, and you elaborate and you

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01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 1: go on at length about some period in history, the

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01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 1: early days in Ohio, northern Kentucky. Oh Man, did we

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01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 1: learn a lot about the Civil War. It was amazing book.

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01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 1: I loved it.

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Speaker 10: Man who saved Cincinnati?

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Speaker 1: This and when I call a book a bathroom book,

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01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 1: I use that as a compliment because you can kind

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01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 1: of pick it up. Yeah, through part of it. You're

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Speaker 1: not making an entire novel, and you're done with that segment,

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Speaker 1: so we can kind of call it this. Maybe the

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Speaker 1: stories are a little longer than your traditional bathroom book,

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Speaker 1: but five different stories. So how did you like whittle

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Speaker 1: it down or how'd you come up with these stories?

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01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 1: Because the details I have are really fascinating and kind

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Speaker 1: of strange too, Like the first serial killer in Cincinnati?

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Speaker 11: You know, yeah, who knew upon that one? That's kind

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Speaker 11: of the theme or the niche I have is who knew?

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01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 11: Who knew that Cincinnati was attacked by Confederates?

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Speaker 10: Who knew?

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Speaker 11: The first serial killer in Cincinnati was a woman and

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Speaker 11: in nineteen thirty eight, and she probably killed more than

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Speaker 11: a dozen people before they caught her.

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Speaker 10: And the story of her trial is fascinating.

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Speaker 11: One of the things that's a good highlight of how

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Speaker 11: these stories work and how one leads to another. While

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Speaker 11: I'm researching her, I looked at the prosecutor or handled

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Speaker 11: her case. I thought this guy sounds kind of interesting,

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01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 11: so I dive in and look at him. His name

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01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:11,599
Speaker 11: was Dudley out Cult. The out Cults were a long time,

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Speaker 11: very well known group of lawyers. They were active in

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Speaker 11: the party and the politics and as prosecutors and judges. Well,

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Speaker 11: this guy, it turns out, flew with Eddie Rickenbacker and

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Speaker 11: World War One. Yes, and then he was a member

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Speaker 11: of Rickenbacker's pit crew at Indianapolis five hundred races. I mean,

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Speaker 11: in this you just find one person in Cincinnati history

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Speaker 11: and I'm going, wow, that could almost be another's. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: and then I find out not only that but his father.

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Speaker 11: One day, he dropped his father off at his office

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01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 11: where he had a law office, never saw him again.

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Speaker 11: He vanished from the streets of Cincinnati. This is a

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Speaker 11: highly respected, well known leader of the Republican Party in

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Speaker 11: Cincinnati who just kind of gone in an instant, And

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Speaker 11: for months they had people that thought they saw him

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01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:08,719
Speaker 11: and so forth. It's just another mystery, and that's packed

1495
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Speaker 11: in there. But the main story there is, of course,

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Speaker 11: the serial killer. And this is before the term serial

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01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 11: killer existed, right, Yes, yes, it was never used in

1498
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 11: relation to her. She was known as the black Widow.

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Speaker 11: I'm told that people who work in the Handling County

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Speaker 11: Prosecutor's office or the police department many are familiar with

1501
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 11: this case because it's one that they point to as

1502
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 11: one of the more sensational interesting cases, and it was

1503
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 11: really also one of the first cases in America that

1504
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 11: was solved with the aid of medical forensics. Cincinnati was

1505
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 11: at the forefront the cutting edge of pairing up with

1506
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 11: the University of Cincinnati had a division there, a group

1507
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 11: that was interested in medical forensics and trying to solve

1508
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 11: cold cases and crimes using medicine, and they did in

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01:22:58,000 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 11: this case.

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Speaker 10: It's really a fascinating story.

1511
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 1: Now did that develop into I know, we have medical

1512
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 1: forensic teams for the police now, but that was this

1513
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 1: case instrumental in establishing that as a regular thing. Yes,

1514
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 1: it was.

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01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 11: It was the first time that they really applied this

1517
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 11: kind of science to a murder investigation, and it was

1518
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 11: so successful that that continued. So Cincinnati was really paving

1519
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 11: the way for what we know today as CSI.

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01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 1: Well, Harmonica Black would kind of suggest, I imagine what

1521
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 1: her modus operandi was, but what she married guys and

1522
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 1: then killed them, is that what this is?

1523
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:32,599
Speaker 3: Yea?

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01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 11: Or she would flirt with them, and her victims were

1525
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 11: almost always elderly German men, lonely widows or men who

1526
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 11: never married who were lonesome, and they would tell their friends, Oh,

1527
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 11: I got this new girlfriend.

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01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 10: She's really something.

1529
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 11: Before you know it, they've signed over their house, their

1530
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 11: savings account, just so sad, and then she would go

1531
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 11: cook for them.

1532
01:23:58,439 --> 01:23:59,799
Speaker 10: Real is their big mistake.

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01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 1: Wanh wah wah wah. Poison was big, killing people way

1534
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 1: in the back of the day.

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Speaker 11: Absolutely, and you can in her case, she used arsenic,

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01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 11: which is undetectable. You can't smell it, you can't taste

1537
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 11: it in food. And uh so what would happen is

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01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 11: these guys would suddenly get terribly, terribly ill. Oh the

1539
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 11: worst way to die, just excruciating and horrible, and then

1540
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:26,879
Speaker 11: she'd move on to another victim. She would have sometimes

1541
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:29,679
Speaker 11: two victims going at once, no kidding.

1542
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know you say that, it's almost as

1543
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 1: if I just you know, I'm talking to Dave had

1544
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 1: it with a modern scam, because that kind of stuff

1545
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 1: goes on today. They just use artificial intelligence and in

1546
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:42,640
Speaker 1: computer programs and you know, dating apps to to do

1547
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 1: this type of thing.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and she would have been undetected had she not

1549
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 11: poisoned a man who was a shoe repairman a shoe

1550
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 11: salesman downtown and Cincinnati. He owned his own business, another

1551
01:24:56,479 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 11: elderly German man, and she got talked him into going Denver,

1552
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 11: Colorado with her, and on the way out on the train, she.

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Speaker 10: Poisoned him as well.

1554
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 11: And the people in Denver noticed when he got off

1555
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 11: the train that she was taking care of him, and

1556
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:11,680
Speaker 11: then she later claims she never knew him, so.

1557
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,720
Speaker 10: They got interested. Well, I'm not going to give away more.

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01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:17,560
Speaker 11: No, no, no, it's really a fascinating story of the

1559
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 11: detective work and the trial.

1560
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Speaker 10: So it's a little bit of a courtroom procedural.

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Speaker 1: Too, all right, And that would be the fourth story

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Speaker 1: in the book, Big Tom and the Black Widow. Big

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Speaker 1: Tom that the lawyer you're referring to.

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Speaker 11: No, Big Tom was the detective and he was one

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Speaker 11: of Cincinnati's most famous detectives. There's probably nobody can touch

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Speaker 11: him for the number of cases he handled and solved.

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Speaker 11: Okay, Well, before I do that, just point out if

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Speaker 11: One of the things that's fun about short stories is

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Speaker 11: I got to explore a bunch of different styles. So

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Speaker 11: I have a core room, procedural, I have a murder mystery.

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Speaker 11: I have an adventure in out west on the Oregon Trail.

1619
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 11: I have and then this one would be described more

1620
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 11: like a horror story like Tales from the Crypt, literally

1621
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 11: tales from the Crypt, because back in the eighteen fifties

1622
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 11: and seventies, grave robbery was a really big problem. People

1623
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 11: would plunder graves and in this case, they robbed the

1624
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 11: grave of John Scott Harrison, who was the son of

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01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 11: William Henry Harrison, our ninth president.

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01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:36,560
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is a huha, this is someone of significance,

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01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 1: and they yes, they took was this for medical research?

1628
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 1: I know, to do studies. It was impossible to get kidaverage,

1629
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 1: so they would rob the graves and provide them to

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01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 1: the medical students.

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01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 9: Got it.

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01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 11: And usually they would rob the graves of the what

1633
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 11: they called the colored cemetery, or they would go to

1634
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:56,600
Speaker 11: the poor people's cemetery and the Potter's Field, and they

1635
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 11: would take those because most people were too They didn't

1636
01:28:59,320 --> 01:28:59,959
Speaker 11: have influence.

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01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 10: There's significance enough to complain and make it stick, or

1638
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 10: in the.

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01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 1: Case of potters Field, no money, but also maybe no

1640
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 1: living or available relatives to even make a claim over

1641
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 1: the body. So no wrinkles that are going to follow up.

1642
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, so they would actually rob these bodies.

1643
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:15,640
Speaker 11: In this case, this was not only the son of

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01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 11: a president, but he was the father of another president,

1645
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:21,639
Speaker 11: Benjamin Harrison. So he is the son and the father

1646
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 11: of US presidents. And they robbed his grave on the

1647
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:25,719
Speaker 11: very night he was buried.

1648
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 1: Well, didn't you have to get him close in time

1649
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 1: to death otherwise you're just bringing in a rotting exact.

1650
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 11: You're right, they tried to get him fresh, as they

1651
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 11: would put it in this case. You know, a little

1652
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 11: side note of this was it answered a question I've

1653
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 11: often had when I went through cemeteries or drove by

1654
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 11: him about those little mausoleums that looked like little banks.

1655
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, you had the bars on the windows and everything.

1656
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 10: Well that was because a grave robbery.

1657
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 11: Oh wow, you know, so you would you would fortify

1658
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 11: when you put somebody to rest, you would try as

1659
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:01,639
Speaker 11: much as to your ability to fortify that and make

1660
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 11: it impossible to steal the corpse. In this case, they

1661
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 11: hired the Pinkerton Agency out of Chicago to try and

1662
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 11: find out what happened to John Scott Harrison, and they

1663
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 11: traced it to a report that came in in the

1664
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:21,559
Speaker 11: newspaper that that very night, around three am, a wagon

1665
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 11: pulled up in front of the Ohio Medical School and

1666
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 11: unloaded a long sheet wrapped object. So, the son of

1667
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:36,720
Speaker 11: John Scott Harrison goes to the Ohio Medical School. They

1668
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:40,839
Speaker 11: finally find his body and it's hanging in this shaft

1669
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 11: with a winch where they would bring it up from

1670
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 11: the ground floor seven stories up, and it's hanging there

1671
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:48,679
Speaker 11: on a rope hidden in the shaft.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, he'll be out of this. They did that

1673
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 1: and hung him in a shaft for the purpose of

1674
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 1: hiding the presence of the body. Yes, there's no other

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01:30:57,520 --> 01:30:59,839
Speaker 1: reason for the seven storage.

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Speaker 11: So when you go up these stories in the Ohio

1677
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 11: Medical College, which is would have been right about next

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01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:10,559
Speaker 11: to the Cincinnatian Hotel is today and in fact, well anyway,

1679
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 11: I don't want to get distracted here. But okay, so

1680
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 11: they find this body hanging in the shaft and his

1681
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 11: own son discovered it, and it was so grizzly. He

1682
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:22,679
Speaker 11: had been stripped of his clothes, he had been bled out,

1683
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 11: so they had cut his neck and so forth, and

1684
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:28,640
Speaker 11: just hanging there. And when they get up to the

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Speaker 11: seventh floor, I mean, the scene was just appalling because

1686
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:35,840
Speaker 11: they would keep thats of these body parts around and

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01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 11: corpses much longer then really was hygienic or safe. And

1688
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 11: the stench, oh my gosh, it would it would knock

1689
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Speaker 11: you right over. And they described that when they when

1690
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 11: they got up there to find the body, and those

1691
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:54,040
Speaker 11: are the conditions.

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01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 9: That the.

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01:31:55,880 --> 01:32:00,879
Speaker 1: Decompositioning doctors and doctors would work in or surrounded that stension.

1694
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:02,120
Speaker 10: Uh horrible.

1695
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:07,240
Speaker 11: Oh, they had lost any kind of respect for the dead, right,

1696
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 11: They just abused these corpses and just treated them horribly.

1697
01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:12,640
Speaker 10: And that was exposed.

1698
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Speaker 11: And you know, during these periods in the eighteen hundreds,

1699
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Speaker 11: they were not unusual to see riots in big cities

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Speaker 11: when people would find out that their loved one was

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Speaker 11: in the medical college without permission. And it happened in

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Speaker 11: New York City where a man was walking down the

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Speaker 11: street and they were actually doing a dissection in the

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01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:32,560
Speaker 11: window of the medical college there, and it was his

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01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 11: wife who had just died. Oh my lord, and he

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01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 11: found that and they had a riot and they burned

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Speaker 11: that medical college. So this was this was outrageous and

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01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:44,080
Speaker 11: it was a huge scandal in Cincinnati. But it's also

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01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 11: a story of this vast network of grave robbery that

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01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 11: was going on in Cincinnati, and they were supplying bodies

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01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:55,760
Speaker 11: all over Ohio, but also up in Michigan to ann Arbor.

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Speaker 11: The University of Michigan was getting its corpses for their

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Speaker 11: medical school from Sinati.

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Speaker 1: So it was a regional organized crime unit designed to

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Speaker 1: get medical students dead bodies exactly.

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Speaker 11: And not only that, the grave robbers would also strip

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Speaker 11: the bodies, and this is really kind of icky. They

1718
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:14,840
Speaker 11: would sell the clothes, so if you went to go

1719
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:19,719
Speaker 11: buy bargain clothes, you might be walking around in something

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Speaker 11: that was only hours before worn by a corpse.

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Speaker 1: I read all about it the name of the book

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Speaker 1: Magical History Tour. We got more with Peter Bronson in

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Speaker 1: they have Peter Bronson here in the Greater Cincinnati. Aian

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Speaker 1: Bleuss for his books, they are absolutely wonderful. Re to

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Speaker 1: every one of them. I've read them all. Magical history

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Speaker 1: tours what we're talking about this morning, Murder Mystery, Buried History,

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Speaker 1: plus a little bonus segment at the end. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about that it's like some well places where you can

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Speaker 1: Tours at the tail end of the book Ten Places

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Speaker 1: to Discover Cincinnati History. Get a glimpse at that toward

1763
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Speaker 1: the end of this discussion. But let's talk about a

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01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:25,559
Speaker 1: sneak in the garden. Peter, Oh, that was a lot

1765
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:28,880
Speaker 1: of fun too. So a long time ago I visited

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Speaker 1: because I was working at the Inquiry at the time,

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Speaker 1: I think, And I visited the Whitewater Shaker village because

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01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 1: they were just then beginning the restoration of it, and

1769
01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 1: it was fascinating to see how these people lived. For example,

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01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 1: when you go to their cemetery, which is right down

1771
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 1: the road from the village where they lived. The Shakers,

1772
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:51,840
Speaker 1: they had the cemetery and it's probably I don't know,

1773
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:54,760
Speaker 1: three acres two acres. It's a pretty big cemetery, but

1774
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:57,080
Speaker 1: there's only a dozen graves there, and.

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01:35:57,160 --> 01:36:00,880
Speaker 11: You're like, what is going on here? Well, they believed

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01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 11: in celibacy, and they really didn't.

1777
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 1: Think ahead that you don't populate a cemetery if you

1778
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 1: don't populate the children in the you know, in the village.

1779
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 1: I was Communists believe in celibacy. O, Hey, this is

1780
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:17,040
Speaker 1: this is an amazing thing. Funny.

1781
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Speaker 11: You should bring that up because in the middle of

1782
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 11: this cemetery it says the Whitewater Shaker Cemetery is dedicated

1783
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 11: to a community of celibate Christian Communists in no way, yes.

1784
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 1: And this was put up in nineteen I had the

1785
01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:33,840
Speaker 1: god folks, I did not know that you really said that.

1786
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:37,679
Speaker 1: Oh you nailed it back then. See what happens.

1787
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:40,960
Speaker 11: Yeah, communism kind of meant something else then, because Marx

1788
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 11: and Engels were just kind of contract.

1789
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 10: This was a communal living.

1790
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 11: Like they thought that there would be utopias if everybody

1791
01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 11: shared everything. So in the Shaker village they really practiced

1792
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:56,280
Speaker 11: that along with celibacy. So here's a funny little thing.

1793
01:36:57,120 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 11: In their dormitory. They had the women's sleeping arrangements at

1794
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 11: the west end or the east end, and the men

1795
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:08,760
Speaker 11: at the west end, and just a hallway between them. Well,

1796
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:11,880
Speaker 11: you know, you'd think for the trials of celibacy, you'd

1797
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 11: at least put them on separate floors, But no.

1798
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 1: It sounds like it invites a panty raid. You're gonna

1799
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:19,040
Speaker 1: go raid the women's storm tonight.

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Speaker 11: Well, it's interesting that one of the rooms in the

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01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 11: women's Storm had locks on both sides of the door.

1802
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 1: Oh all right, yeah, they anticipated that might happen.

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Speaker 11: And there's also a story I found that they used

1804
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:34,640
Speaker 11: to spread flower on the floor in the hallway, so

1805
01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:38,000
Speaker 11: if anybody walked from one dorm to the other, they

1806
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:41,320
Speaker 11: would leave tracks, and the next morning you'd see which

1807
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:43,719
Speaker 11: they went to, Well.

1808
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Speaker 1: No wonder, they aren't around anymore. Not only you had

1809
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:48,360
Speaker 1: the whole celibacy they're working against them. That's not exactly

1810
01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:50,720
Speaker 1: a marketing scheme that's going to, you know, bring in

1811
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:52,640
Speaker 1: the fellow travelers as it were.

1812
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Speaker 11: No, but if you take a look at the Shakers,

1813
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:57,080
Speaker 11: they were really in a lot of ways during that

1814
01:37:57,160 --> 01:37:59,840
Speaker 11: period and especially around the Civil War, they were this

1815
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:02,720
Speaker 11: the only safety net or social safety net we had

1816
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:06,880
Speaker 11: because there was no homes for widows and orphans, there

1817
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:10,240
Speaker 11: were no places that no social security. But the Shakers

1818
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:14,040
Speaker 11: for widows and orphans and women who had gotten in

1819
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:17,360
Speaker 11: trouble or what we'd called today back then they would.

1820
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:19,880
Speaker 1: Call l violated the celibacy rule.

1821
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:23,799
Speaker 11: Yeah, so they would be taken in by the Shakers.

1822
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:29,080
Speaker 11: So whole families were taken in. And there's another fascinating

1823
01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 11: story about the Millerites, which is a diversion, but it's

1824
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:35,680
Speaker 11: in the book. And this was a cult in the

1825
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:39,559
Speaker 11: eighteen hundreds that followed a man named Miller who believed

1826
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Speaker 11: that he knew the exact day and date of Christ's return,

1827
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Speaker 11: and they sold all of their property, gave away everything,

1828
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:50,680
Speaker 11: their farms, their clothes, everything, and they all went out

1829
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:52,640
Speaker 11: to a hill, and this happened in Cincinnati.

1830
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Speaker 1: They all went out to a hill and waited for

1831
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Speaker 1: the second coming, and waited and waited, and nothing happened. Really,

1832
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:03,080
Speaker 1: and so I would have read about it if they had. Yeah,

1833
01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:06,559
Speaker 1: so now they are destitute and homeless.

1834
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Speaker 10: So where did they go?

1835
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 1: They tried the Shaker village suckers. So what's the snake

1836
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:16,760
Speaker 1: in the garden part? Well, I don't want you to

1837
01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:19,679
Speaker 1: be too revealing. No, obviously came up with this chapter

1838
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Speaker 1: title for a reason.

1839
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Speaker 11: Yes, there's a fascinating mystery about two women who were

1840
01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 11: banished from the Shaker village because of failure to observe

1841
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:30,639
Speaker 11: the celibacy rule.

1842
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:33,439
Speaker 1: And they had two together.

1843
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:37,120
Speaker 11: The two women, it was a mother and daughter both

1844
01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:40,000
Speaker 11: In all the news stories and so forth, the accounts

1845
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:43,879
Speaker 11: at the time remarked that they were both strikingly beautiful,

1846
01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:48,320
Speaker 11: and they had come to Cincinnati after they were banished

1847
01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 11: from Whitewater Village. And after about a week they were

1848
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:56,400
Speaker 11: found dead in a hotel room in downtown Cincinnati. Uh huh,

1849
01:39:56,960 --> 01:39:59,599
Speaker 11: So the mystery around that is, Okay, what happened?

1850
01:39:59,640 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 3: Wow?

1851
01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:03,479
Speaker 10: Well, there was a man who was taken in.

1852
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:07,200
Speaker 11: By the Shaker village, who was a drunk, a total

1853
01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:10,120
Speaker 11: wast stroll, a scoundrel. But he came from a very

1854
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:14,920
Speaker 11: wealthy Cincinnata family. And there's your snake in the garden.

1855
01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:17,479
Speaker 1: All about that, I was gonna charge you try to

1856
01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:20,479
Speaker 1: draw a Bernie Sanders parallel, because apparently he lived in

1857
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:22,639
Speaker 1: an ashram or a commune, and he was the lazy

1858
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:24,760
Speaker 1: guy that never did anything. They kicked him out.

1859
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:26,559
Speaker 10: Well, that he describes this guy too.

1860
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 1: He preaches the gospel of this communal lifestyle, but then

1861
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:32,639
Speaker 1: like all communes, it all fails because no one wants

1862
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:34,479
Speaker 1: to step up to the plate and pull their weight, and.

1863
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:38,599
Speaker 11: There's always communism, and there's always some leech that's just parasite,

1864
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Speaker 11: that's just riding along. Bernie Sanders, Yeah, well that describes

1865
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:45,680
Speaker 11: this guy too, except I don't think we could give

1866
01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:47,840
Speaker 11: him credit for murdering anybody, at least not that I

1867
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:51,360
Speaker 11: know about. More with Peter Burnston, I like scratching the

1868
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Speaker 11: surface of this because this obviously if heeds the curiosity element,

1869
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Speaker 11: which will get books sold, but it's well worth the

1870
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Speaker 11: small amount of money going to pay get Peter's book

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Speaker 11: and begin the excellent Christmas gift seven thirty five. Right now,

1872
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Speaker 11: we'll be right back more with Peter Bronch.

1873
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Speaker 1: it has been a riot talking about the various stories,

1910
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Speaker 1: five different stories, all based upon local folks or local connections.

1911
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Speaker 3: Uh.

1912
01:42:55,280 --> 01:42:57,040
Speaker 1: And then we find out that some of them extend

1913
01:42:57,120 --> 01:42:59,559
Speaker 1: out west. You had mentioned that earlier when we were

1914
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:02,240
Speaker 1: talking about which which chapter is that one?

1915
01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:03,360
Speaker 10: That's the one.

1916
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:06,559
Speaker 1: It's called Rifles at forty paced.

1917
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:08,400
Speaker 10: Rifles at forty paces. Good, thank you.

1918
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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's the story of a man from Wilmington, Ohio

1919
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:16,720
Speaker 11: who hopped on the Oregon Trail, which was an incredible

1920
01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:26,599
Speaker 11: life threatening adventure in itself period Indians, disease, deserts parched, starving,

1921
01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:28,840
Speaker 11: everything you can think of.

1922
01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:32,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm sure it was so comfortable right in

1923
01:43:32,120 --> 01:43:33,160
Speaker 1: a kind of stoga wagon.

1924
01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:36,360
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah.

1925
01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:40,040
Speaker 11: And he led the wagon train to northern California for

1926
01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:43,040
Speaker 11: the gold Rush in eighteen fifty. So he went out

1927
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:46,479
Speaker 11: for the gold Rush. He fought an amazing duel against

1928
01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 11: a newspaper editor, which kind of I thought that was

1929
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:53,560
Speaker 11: a special a former editor myself. And this editor just

1930
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:56,680
Speaker 11: didn't know when to quit. He kept insulting this guy

1931
01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:58,720
Speaker 11: in his editorials, and he just kept doing it and

1932
01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:03,800
Speaker 11: doing it. It's a political thing, and so this guy

1933
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:10,320
Speaker 11: becomes such a heroic figure that he actually the city

1934
01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:14,840
Speaker 11: of Denver, Colorado, is named after him, and he named

1935
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:16,160
Speaker 11: the state of Montana.

1936
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Speaker 1: Really.

1937
01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:20,720
Speaker 11: Yes, he was governor of the Kansas Territory in the

1938
01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:24,200
Speaker 11: eighteen late eighteen fifties, during the time they call Bleeding

1939
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:27,439
Speaker 11: Kansas now as a run up to the Civil War.

1940
01:44:27,680 --> 01:44:31,080
Speaker 11: Bleeding Kansas was like a dress rehearsal. It was all

1941
01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 11: about abolition.

1942
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:36,040
Speaker 1: Oh, old brother, I never heard that term.

1943
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:41,000
Speaker 11: Unbelievable, terrible, terrible violence. Okay, here's the Outlaw Josie Wales

1944
01:44:41,080 --> 01:44:41,439
Speaker 11: the movie.

1945
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:42,240
Speaker 1: Yes, I've seen that.

1946
01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:45,880
Speaker 11: That is about this period, and Josie Wales was in

1947
01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:49,080
Speaker 11: the Battle of Bleeding Kansas that went on for years.

1948
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:52,120
Speaker 11: So if we look at Bleeding Kansas and we draw

1949
01:44:52,240 --> 01:44:54,599
Speaker 11: some parallels. I didn't necessarily do this in the story,

1950
01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:57,080
Speaker 11: but if you wanted to, you can draw parallels to

1951
01:44:57,240 --> 01:45:01,719
Speaker 11: see what's going on in our country today. You might say, well, Portland,

1952
01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:04,560
Speaker 11: Oregon kind of looks like what Bleeding Kansas looked like.

1953
01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 11: People were burning each other's farms, they were raiding, they

1954
01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:11,000
Speaker 11: were killing each other. They were just completely out of

1955
01:45:11,120 --> 01:45:14,760
Speaker 11: control all over the issue of slavery, because Kansas was

1956
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:17,800
Speaker 11: going to be a new state, and the abolitionists wanted

1957
01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:20,720
Speaker 11: it to be a free state, of course, and the

1958
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:24,679
Speaker 11: people from Missouri who had already gotten statehood and wanted

1959
01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:27,600
Speaker 11: it to be a slave state like them. So the

1960
01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:30,559
Speaker 11: Missourians came up and they fought the abolitionists, and most

1961
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:34,760
Speaker 11: of the abolitionists were from northeastern states. And one of

1962
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 11: those abolitionists was a man everybody knows about, John Brown,

1963
01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:44,000
Speaker 11: oh sure. And he was a cold blooded psychopath. He

1964
01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:49,200
Speaker 11: was unbelievable. He committed massacres and murders like you wouldn't believe,

1965
01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:53,639
Speaker 11: and people glorified and made him a hero, not unlike

1966
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:56,000
Speaker 11: what we've done in our own culture today, with people

1967
01:45:56,040 --> 01:46:00,720
Speaker 11: who are really in many ways despicable, live horrible life,

1968
01:46:00,760 --> 01:46:03,320
Speaker 11: and yet because the way they die and the politics

1969
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:05,640
Speaker 11: around it, we lift them up as some kind of

1970
01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 11: mythical hero.

1971
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:09,360
Speaker 10: And that's what happened with John Brown.

1972
01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:14,519
Speaker 1: No kidding. Yeah, you know, I guess on some level

1973
01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:17,200
Speaker 1: I can understand. But you know, the idea of murdering

1974
01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:21,320
Speaker 1: your neighbors over it is a human rights, of course issue,

1975
01:46:21,320 --> 01:46:25,280
Speaker 1: a profound one, and I you know, understanding and embracing humanity,

1976
01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:28,160
Speaker 1: but that you would go out and murder someone over this,

1977
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:30,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, set farms on fire.

1978
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:33,160
Speaker 11: It's just well, and you know, we kind of tend

1979
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:35,599
Speaker 11: to look back and people like this version of history

1980
01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:39,240
Speaker 11: that's popular and in schools and colleges. Now, which is

1981
01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:43,160
Speaker 11: that you know, abolitions are good guys, Confederates bad guys,

1982
01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:44,000
Speaker 11: and this and that.

1983
01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:47,880
Speaker 10: You know, it's all very black and white. No, it wasn't.

1984
01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:54,400
Speaker 11: Some of the abolitionists were the scariest, most brutal people, terrorists,

1985
01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:56,120
Speaker 11: They were psychopaths.

1986
01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:59,800
Speaker 1: Well, okay, let me pose this to you. Fine, they

1987
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:02,720
Speaker 1: leave and abolishing slavery. There's a multitude of reasons why

1988
01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:06,840
Speaker 1: someone might embrace that. Would someone, let's say John Brown,

1989
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:12,360
Speaker 1: embrace that as a philosophy and as a primary motivating

1990
01:47:13,360 --> 01:47:15,800
Speaker 1: force and factor in their life for the purpose of

1991
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:20,200
Speaker 1: an excuse to commit violence, that he's a psychopath?

1992
01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:21,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think he was.

1993
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:23,479
Speaker 1: Like I believe you out there in the world, somebody

1994
01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 1: decided to go through maybe being becoming a priest because

1995
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:29,120
Speaker 1: they could be around little children. If somebody wants to

1996
01:47:29,160 --> 01:47:31,639
Speaker 1: be a teacher because they can be around little children.

1997
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:34,800
Speaker 1: It isn't because they're really truly motivated by the you know,

1998
01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:39,120
Speaker 1: the Christian doctrine, or because they're motivated to be educators.

1999
01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:41,960
Speaker 1: They want to access the kids. Absolutely, So if they

2000
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:43,920
Speaker 1: want to kill, if this guy wants to has passion

2001
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:47,280
Speaker 1: for killing people, I'm an anti slavery guy, I'm an abolitionist. Okay,

2002
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:47,800
Speaker 1: go ahead and.

2003
01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:50,200
Speaker 11: Do it well in this story. The hero of this

2004
01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:53,960
Speaker 11: story is James W. Denver from Wilmington, Ohio. City of

2005
01:47:54,040 --> 01:47:57,479
Speaker 11: Denver's named after him. His archrival enemy is a guy

2006
01:47:57,520 --> 01:48:01,280
Speaker 11: who was exactly what you described became. He kind of

2007
01:48:01,320 --> 01:48:04,679
Speaker 11: played both sides, but mainly he was just a bloodthirsty raider.

2008
01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:07,120
Speaker 11: He would raid and burn farms so that he could

2009
01:48:07,120 --> 01:48:08,840
Speaker 11: take him for his own property and add him to

2010
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:12,320
Speaker 11: his political power. Oh, like the Crusades, yes, and so,

2011
01:48:12,920 --> 01:48:15,360
Speaker 11: but there were other people. I think John Brown was

2012
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:18,719
Speaker 11: just nuts. I think he was crazy. He went around

2013
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:19,559
Speaker 11: killing people.

2014
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:20,200
Speaker 10: In the name of God.

2015
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:22,960
Speaker 1: That is just part they struggle with.

2016
01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:24,120
Speaker 10: That is nuts.

2017
01:48:24,760 --> 01:48:27,280
Speaker 11: And they thought that God was on their side, so

2018
01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:31,839
Speaker 11: they could do anything they please. And both sides were unbelievably.

2019
01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:32,160
Speaker 10: Cruel and brutal.

2020
01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:33,760
Speaker 1: So it was kind of like the Crusades.

2021
01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:37,519
Speaker 11: Yeah, Bleeding Kansas was an unbelievable chapter in our history.

2022
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:42,000
Speaker 11: And it's all like this mini little set piece dress

2023
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:43,320
Speaker 11: rehearsal for the Civil War.

2024
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2025
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2062
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2063
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2064
01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:36,400
Speaker 1: Happy Friday to you. Who are we looking for?

2065
01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:41,360
Speaker 12: The Cincinnati Police Homicide Unit is looking for Emory Green.

2066
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:42,720
Speaker 13: Mister Green has.

2067
01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:46,479
Speaker 12: Wanted for fellow murder. On September twenty seventh of twenty

2068
01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:49,639
Speaker 12: twenty four, mister Green was involved in a physical altercation

2069
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:53,240
Speaker 12: with John Nichols as a result of the physical education

2070
01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:56,479
Speaker 12: John Nichols sustain life striving injuries is to come to

2071
01:50:56,640 --> 01:50:59,719
Speaker 12: those injuries. Emmy Green is a mel Black. He's twenty

2072
01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:02,640
Speaker 12: four years old. He's five seven and one hundred and

2073
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:06,120
Speaker 12: sixty pounds. Every Green has a history of colonious assault

2074
01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:09,080
Speaker 12: at aggravator robbery and was last known to live on

2075
01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:13,919
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2076
01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:17,280
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2077
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2078
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2079
01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:27,200
Speaker 1: Got to get this guy off the street. You have

2080
01:51:27,200 --> 01:51:29,840
Speaker 1: any information, Yeah, your tip. Lison rast eligible for a

2081
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:32,720
Speaker 1: cash reward, to be doing society a favor and all

2082
01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:36,080
Speaker 1: that activity, criminal activity packed into twenty four short years.

2083
01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:38,360
Speaker 1: That's a sad thing. Officer Green, thank you very much

2084
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:40,439
Speaker 1: for what you do in and out all the day long,

2085
01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:43,280
Speaker 1: and thanks to this insane police department for their great work.

2086
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:45,599
Speaker 1: We'll be looking for him. Officer Green, thanks for much

2087
01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:49,040
Speaker 1: have a wonderful weekend. It's back to Peter Bronson Magical

2088
01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:52,080
Speaker 1: History Tour, Murder mystery and buried history, you know before

2089
01:51:52,720 --> 01:51:55,519
Speaker 1: rather than maybe go back into one more of the

2090
01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:59,400
Speaker 1: snippets about these various stories in here, just elaborating on it.

2091
01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:00,840
Speaker 1: You and I were talking going off the break because

2092
01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:03,360
Speaker 1: you lose sight when you're talking about the wild West,

2093
01:52:03,439 --> 01:52:06,200
Speaker 1: and you mentioned that, you know, the duels. That was

2094
01:52:06,280 --> 01:52:10,479
Speaker 1: all mic on. Is this Mike On?

2095
01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:12,000
Speaker 3: It is?

2096
01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:14,040
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go, all right, I didn't hear it

2097
01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:16,040
Speaker 1: just the second ago. Yeah, so it was very common.

2098
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:19,439
Speaker 1: But the background on that is there wasn't law enforcement.

2099
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:22,640
Speaker 1: You know, they weren't sheriffs necessarily around, and if they were,

2100
01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:24,320
Speaker 1: they weren't going to stop a duel from happening.

2101
01:52:24,439 --> 01:52:27,280
Speaker 11: And this actually came from Europe. There was something called

2102
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:31,360
Speaker 11: the Irish Code Duello and that was a lengthy thing.

2103
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:34,960
Speaker 11: It's like thirty different rules and regulations to set up

2104
01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:38,439
Speaker 11: a duel, all about the the courtesy and manners that

2105
01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:40,479
Speaker 11: surround how you established it.

2106
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:42,680
Speaker 1: Do how you murder someone again, you'd properly do it

2107
01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:44,920
Speaker 1: like the Marcus of Queensbury rules. Yeah, thing right, Well,

2108
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:47,080
Speaker 1: you know that's funny you'd bring that up once again.

2109
01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:47,680
Speaker 1: You nailed it.

2110
01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:52,040
Speaker 11: The Marcus of Queensbury rules and boxing was actually introduced

2111
01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:55,760
Speaker 11: in Europe as a way to settle these disputes without firearms.

2112
01:52:55,960 --> 01:52:56,160
Speaker 4: Ah.

2113
01:52:56,560 --> 01:52:58,720
Speaker 11: So there was so much dueling going on and so

2114
01:52:58,840 --> 01:53:02,240
Speaker 11: many young men being killed that they finally got this idea, well,

2115
01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:04,880
Speaker 11: let's just resort to fisticuffs and settle it that way.

2116
01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:08,280
Speaker 1: Apparently a duel could be justified and you just called

2117
01:53:08,320 --> 01:53:09,000
Speaker 1: somebody a name.

2118
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:13,840
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, especially if you you said something that shed

2119
01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:16,840
Speaker 11: poor light on his girlfriend, or his mother or his sister.

2120
01:53:17,320 --> 01:53:21,240
Speaker 11: Women were especially held sacer sank. Now, think about this

2121
01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:23,840
Speaker 11: in compare it to today's society. First of all, they

2122
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:27,439
Speaker 11: had honor. People were polite because if you shot off

2123
01:53:27,479 --> 01:53:30,720
Speaker 11: your mouth about somebody kill, you could be challenged and

2124
01:53:30,840 --> 01:53:33,360
Speaker 11: dragged into the street into a duel. And if you

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Speaker 11: if you were uh, you know, the kind of person

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Speaker 11: who says, nah, I don't want to do that. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 11: If you back down after somebody had challenged you, then

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Speaker 11: you were disgraced. You were just kind of an outcast

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Speaker 11: from society. So the the amount of honor that people

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Speaker 11: held it in high regard at that time It is

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Speaker 11: just something that probably most of us really can't relate

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Speaker 11: to anymore, because we see what happens in our society today.

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Speaker 11: People do the most incredibly dishonorable things and then they

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Speaker 11: just say let's move on, and nobody challenges them. They

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Speaker 11: are not held accountable. I mean, I don't want to

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Speaker 11: go back to dueling.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna say, bailed suggestion from Peter Bronx, and we

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Speaker 1: bring back dueling. Well, the Irish Code Duello is still there.

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Speaker 1: I cite most of some of the rules of dueling

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Speaker 1: in my book Learn All about It. Get a copy

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Speaker 1: of Magical History to a murder Mystery, Buried History, and

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Speaker 1: let us talk very briefly. Hear Peter Brons and you

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Speaker 1: got a little extra fun and games going on at

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Speaker 1: the tail end of the book. With ten places to

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Speaker 1: discover in Cincinnti history, I suppose these relate to the

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Speaker 1: individuals and points you made factually in the five stories

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Speaker 1: you provide.

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Speaker 11: Also in my other books, so things like the Man

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Speaker 11: who Saved Cincinnati. The lu Wallace Study and Museum is

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Speaker 11: one of those spots. The Pioneer Cemetery is one of

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Speaker 11: those spots. I didn't even know about that until I

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01:54:58,120 --> 01:55:01,480
Speaker 11: found it down by Lunkin Airport. It's a fascinating little

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Speaker 11: cemetery where you can find the grave of Major Benjamin Stites,

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Speaker 11: who was one of the first settlers of Cincinnati in

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Speaker 11: the seventeen eighties and nineties. And then there's another one

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Speaker 11: called Congress Green Cemetery, and that's the one where Benjamin

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Speaker 11: Scott or John Scott Harrison's body was robbed from the grave,

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Speaker 11: and also the burial place of John Cleves Simms, who

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Speaker 11: is sims purchase was all of the land that we

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Speaker 11: stand on today in Cincinnati, how about that? And these

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Speaker 11: are not of course, the Museum Center is fantastic, The

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Speaker 11: Art Museum is fantastic, all of these things. I just

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01:55:39,800 --> 01:55:43,120
Speaker 11: wanted to find the little places that are kind of

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Speaker 11: out of the way. Who knew that these were there?

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Speaker 11: And that you can find out so much about our

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Speaker 11: history from this.

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Speaker 1: Week your book, Man who Knew? Yeah, Peter Bronson's the

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Speaker 1: man we can thank for now knowing. If you get

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Speaker 1: a copy of the book and find out for yourself.

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Speaker 1: It's available at fifty five cares dot com, a podcast page,

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Speaker 1: or you can just go right now at Chilidogpress dot

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Speaker 1: com and Peter will be happy to ship one out

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Speaker 1: with free shipping. Peter can't thank you enough for the

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Speaker 1: Iron Studio. I love our conversations, man. I may to

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Speaker 1: wish we could done all the time. Great interview. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: This will be done. I swear I'll have this book

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Speaker 1: done in probably twenty four hours or forty hours, because

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Speaker 1: I got a four day week and I'm going to

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Speaker 1: start with this when I get home. Fantastic folks. Stick

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Speaker 1: around after Is there an afterlife? Sebastian Junger reflection on

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Speaker 1: death and what might follow? He is the keynote speaker

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Speaker 1: and empower you Sumon are coming up on the ninth

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Speaker 1: in my time of dying, so this should be a

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Speaker 1: rather interesting conversation after the top of the air news.

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Speaker 1: I hope you can stick around. You right back, Bock Sexton,

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Speaker 1: Of course to start time seven pm Tuesday. Mark it

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Speaker 1: down for my guest, Sebastian Younger and I hope I

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Speaker 1: pronounced in your last name right, Sebastian, you may very

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Speaker 1: well be aware of I'm an author of a whole

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Speaker 1: bunch of very highly praised books. He's an award winning journalist,

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Speaker 1: contributing editor to Vanity Fair, special correspondent to ABC News.

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Speaker 1: He's been a war correspondent, covered major international news stories

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Speaker 1: around the world, received both a National Magazine Award and

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Speaker 1: a Peabody Award. And get a load of this. He

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Speaker 1: did a documentary Restrepo, nominated for an Academy Award and

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Speaker 1: won a Grand Jury Prize at Sundance. Also written for magazines.

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Speaker 1: You've heard about The New York Times magazine, National Geographic Adventure.

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Speaker 1: You've read his stuff. Welcome to the program, Sebastian. It's

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Speaker 1: a real pleasure to have you. I'm to talk about

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Speaker 1: this rather fascinating. I guess I just sort of life

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Speaker 1: change that you went through in my time of dying,

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Speaker 1: how I came face to face with the idea of

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Speaker 1: an afterlife, which is the name of your book, hugely

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Speaker 1: successful book. Sebastian, Welcome to the fifty five KRSE Morning Show.

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Speaker 9: Hey, thank you very much for having me.

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Speaker 1: You know your I gotta you died. I'm gonna let

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Speaker 1: you summarize what occurred to you and how life transformational

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Speaker 1: this death experience was. But I got to tell you,

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Speaker 1: I had a friend of my father's, or one of

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Speaker 1: my fathers, my late father's friends, went through almost word

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Speaker 1: for word exactly what you experienced when you ended up

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Speaker 1: in the hospital. I mean he in his case, he

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Speaker 1: died and met his mom and ended up being revived.

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Speaker 1: In your case, it was your father. So let's walk

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Speaker 1: through this. And I think it's really important for my

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Speaker 1: listening audience to know that going into this experience, you

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Speaker 1: were an atheist, a confirmed atheist.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and I still am. And my father was an

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Speaker 9: atheist and a physicist, which is like atheist square. So

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Speaker 9: that's where yeah, my family and iron covered from. So

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Speaker 9: I had a you know, I was a war reporter

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Speaker 9: for a long time and I've come close to getting

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Speaker 9: killed a number of times, and I'd made my sort

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Speaker 9: of peace with that, and then I stopped war reporting.

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Speaker 1: I had a family.

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Speaker 9: I felt like I sort of slid into home base.

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Speaker 9: And I'm in good shape. I'm not a walking heart attack.

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Speaker 9: I'm an athlete. I had no reason to have any

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Speaker 9: concern for my medical well being, and in mid sentence,

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Speaker 9: I felt that pain in my abdomen and it wasn't

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Speaker 9: I had an undiagnosed aneurism in my pacriatic artery, which

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Speaker 9: is this little artery that no one needs to think about.

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Speaker 9: And an aneurism is a sort of unnatural balloting in

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Speaker 9: the side of the artery that will eventually burst, and

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Speaker 9: when it ruptures, you start bleeding out into your own abdomen.

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Speaker 9: And the problem with that is doctors don't know where

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Speaker 9: it is. If you get stabbed in the stomach, they

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Speaker 9: know where to plug the leak, as it were, but

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Speaker 9: not if it's internal hemorrhage, which is what I had.

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Speaker 9: I lost half of my blood. It took me an

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Speaker 9: hour and a half to get to the hospital. I

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Speaker 9: lost at least half my blood more and I was

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Speaker 9: an end stage hemorrhagic shock. When when I got there

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Speaker 9: and while they were trying to get a pick line

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Speaker 9: into my into my juguler to transfuse me. I needed

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Speaker 9: ten units of blood, basically a.

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Speaker 1: Full oil change.

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Speaker 9: Right while they were doing that, I found myself getting

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Speaker 9: pulled into this black pit, this sort of infinitely black pit,

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Speaker 9: like the universe had cracked open.

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Speaker 1: I had no idea I was dying, but.

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Speaker 9: I was terrified of going into this darkness. And then

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Speaker 9: my father, my dead father, appeared above me, uh and

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Speaker 9: communicated to me, it's okay. Basically, it's okay, I'll take

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Speaker 9: care of you.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to fight it.

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Speaker 9: I'll take care of you.

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Speaker 1: And I was horrified, but I was like, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to be with you.

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Speaker 3: I want I want to stay.

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Speaker 1: Here like and I said on that point, at that point,

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Speaker 1: I hate the interrupt, But on that point, were you

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Speaker 1: I mean I don't want to be with you? Was

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Speaker 1: that a recognition that this was death? And I mean,

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Speaker 1: you knew your dad was dead and you were talking

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Speaker 1: or he was speaking with you from apparently beyond the

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Speaker 1: grave or some sort. So is that where your fears

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Speaker 1: them from?

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, when you've lost half your blood, your

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Speaker 9: brain's not working very well. I never connected those dots right.

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Speaker 9: I was very puzzled to see him hovering above me.

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Speaker 9: I mean, A, you're dead. B why are you floating right?

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Speaker 9: I mean, I just I can't tell you how puzzled

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Speaker 9: I was. And he was basically offering to take care

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Speaker 9: of me. Come with me, I'll take care of you.

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Speaker 9: I was like, why would I go You're dead? Why

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Speaker 9: would I want to go with you? The party's over here.

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Speaker 9: We'll talk later, like in a long time, A long

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Speaker 9: time later.

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Speaker 3: And I said to the.

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Speaker 9: Doctor, you have to hurry, I'm going right, And as

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Speaker 9: he was working to get the line into my neck.

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Speaker 1: Wow, well, now that is one element that differs from

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Speaker 1: the friend of my father's, because he was in my

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Speaker 1: view of it, I use the term piece of God

2295
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Speaker 1: all the time. You know, it's like the piece of

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Speaker 1: God that passes all human understanding. I think he experienced

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Speaker 1: something like one would believe the piece of God. Anxiety,

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02:02:00,800 --> 02:02:05,360
Speaker 1: full relief, joy, happiness, and no worries, no concerns. And

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Speaker 1: when he saw his mother speaking with him, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he was just totally enlightened. But he looked down and

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Speaker 1: saw himself on the operating table. He heard the doctors

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Speaker 1: talking to each other, and some may argue, though, going

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Speaker 1: back to your point about a dream state, was he

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Speaker 1: really experiencing sort of a dream at the time his

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Speaker 1: cognitive functions were still working and this was a manufactured thing,

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Speaker 1: or was he indeed experiencing an afterlife? And is that

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Speaker 1: sort of what led you on this post experience journey

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Speaker 1: that you went on that you write about in the book.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, So afterwards, I was very, very puzzled by what happened.

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Speaker 9: And they managed to save my life. They got enough

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Speaker 9: flood into me. They used a intivietual radiology at catheter

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Speaker 9: to get through my venus system, through my arterial system

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Speaker 9: to the rupture and plug it.

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Speaker 1: Amazing, amazing medical care.

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Speaker 9: And I woke up in the ICU the next morning

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Speaker 9: and I went through all this conscious because they couldn't

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Speaker 9: sedate me because my vital size was so low. So

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Speaker 9: the next after I got home from the hospital, I

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Speaker 9: started reading about NDEs near death experiences and what I

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Speaker 9: found out was that what I experienced seeing.

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Speaker 1: A dead loved one is very very common and.

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Speaker 9: Uh, and I started to so I started to explore

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Speaker 9: that and the the you know, the the ultimate question

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Speaker 9: and maybe the ultimate mystery is as you say, Are

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Speaker 9: these just the hallucinations of a dying brain? Or are

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Speaker 9: is it a glimpse into the fact that we may

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Speaker 9: not understand reality completely? We may not understand it very well.

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Speaker 9: I mean, we may not understand consciousness and life and

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Speaker 9: death in any way. And is this are these visions

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Speaker 9: death bad visions? Are Are they showing us a glimpse

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02:03:47,320 --> 02:03:49,840
Speaker 9: of an ultimate reality which would be a sort of

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Speaker 9: unity of all consciousness that that sort of idea?

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Speaker 1: Now, did this experience transforming in a sense that what

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Speaker 1: quite often what I've read? And of course there have

2335
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Speaker 1: been multiple accounts, as you point out, of this, other

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Speaker 1: people experiencing very comparable things. Did you come back with

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Speaker 1: a more profound appreciation for life? Like you know what

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Speaker 1: it's like? I always dogree. You know you could die

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Speaker 1: any day, You could go outside, a bustle hit you

2340
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Speaker 1: weren't planning for it. You know, we don't all go

2341
02:04:15,760 --> 02:04:18,720
Speaker 1: through like a long arduous battle with cancer. Sometimes bad

2342
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Speaker 1: things happen and you just check out without a moment's notice.

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Speaker 1: So knowing that you literally can check out with a

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Speaker 1: moment's notice, as you almost did, did it change you

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Speaker 1: in how you see life on a day to day basis.

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Speaker 9: Excuse me, Yes, yes it did, but you know, with

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02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:38,440
Speaker 9: a sort of caveat, with a sort of asterisk. So

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Speaker 9: if you realize you could die not only any day,

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Speaker 9: but any moment, it it shed a very very bright

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Speaker 9: light on what the experience of life is. And it

2351
02:04:49,400 --> 02:04:52,160
Speaker 9: can make you very very paranoid, right, I mean you

2352
02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:55,520
Speaker 9: literally think I could die at any moment. It's very

2353
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Speaker 9: very hard to relax, right, And that terror is the

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02:05:00,840 --> 02:05:03,520
Speaker 9: flip side of reverence. So yeah, I could die at

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Speaker 9: any moment. That's terrifying, or I could die at any moment.

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Speaker 9: I have a great reverence and thankfulness for the fact

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Speaker 9: that I exist right now, and they sort of go

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02:05:12,600 --> 02:05:16,560
Speaker 9: hand in hand and by At one point, so I

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02:05:16,600 --> 02:05:22,320
Speaker 9: went through a period of extreme anxiety. It took quite

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Speaker 9: a months a year to sort of get out of that,

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Speaker 9: and eventually where I landed was a kind of calm

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Speaker 9: appreciation of how sort of blessed we are. And I

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Speaker 9: mean blessed in a secular sense, right, I'm not religious,

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Speaker 9: but how blessed we all are to exist at all.

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Speaker 9: And it's easy to forget that when you're stuck in

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Speaker 9: a traffic jam or you know, running to doing the

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Speaker 9: groceries or whatever.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, I have a good question for you particularly,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's most appropriate for you because of

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Speaker 1: your being a about atheist. Where did your terror come from?

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Speaker 1: I know people that are afraid of death because they

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Speaker 1: remember what they did during their life, and you can't

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Speaker 1: pat yourself on the back for all the things you

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02:05:59,720 --> 02:06:02,760
Speaker 1: did life. Quite often religion will bring about that. It's

2375
02:06:02,800 --> 02:06:06,360
Speaker 1: like watching the Ebenezer screwge. You know, he looks like,

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02:06:06,440 --> 02:06:07,960
Speaker 1: oh my God, look what's gonna happen to me? If

2377
02:06:07,960 --> 02:06:09,880
Speaker 1: I don't change my ways, I will be doomed to

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02:06:10,040 --> 02:06:14,200
Speaker 1: eternal power are a peril. No, if I think that's

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02:06:14,240 --> 02:06:16,360
Speaker 1: a possibility, that's going to scare the hell out of me.

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Speaker 1: So I would have terror thinking that I might die

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Speaker 1: if I haven't changed my life or otherwise undone the

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02:06:21,160 --> 02:06:24,840
Speaker 1: bad that I've done. But how about in your case?

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Speaker 1: Because honestly, sir, regardless of my personal philosophy about life,

2384
02:06:30,360 --> 02:06:33,160
Speaker 1: death and doctrine and dogma, I've kind of come to

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02:06:33,360 --> 02:06:36,160
Speaker 1: a realization that I'm not afraid of death. I've reconciled

2386
02:06:36,200 --> 02:06:38,480
Speaker 1: myself with that. I'm prepared to meet my make or

2387
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Speaker 1: I'm prepared for whatever comes and I'm you know, if

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Speaker 1: they pull the plug of meats right now, I'm on

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Speaker 1: the morning show. I can't handle that. I at least

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Speaker 1: I think I can. I don't live in terror or

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Speaker 1: fear of death at all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, it was.

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Speaker 9: A consequence of trauma, right. I've been in a lot

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Speaker 9: of combat and was traumatized by that.

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Speaker 1: Sure, a lot of people who have made.

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Speaker 9: Their peace with dying are so traumatized by the events

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Speaker 9: that they saw on the battlefield. And I was very

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02:07:07,120 --> 02:07:10,680
Speaker 9: traumatized by this experience, you know, in mid sentence talking

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Speaker 9: to my wife, all of a sudden, I was circling

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Speaker 9: the drain, and that that could happen at any moment

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02:07:16,360 --> 02:07:20,720
Speaker 9: can make you overly self aware, right, overly conscious of

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02:07:20,880 --> 02:07:22,600
Speaker 9: your moment to moment experience.

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Speaker 1: I also had very young children.

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Speaker 9: I came to fatherhood late in my mid fifties. I

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Speaker 9: love them more than life itself, and they are life

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02:07:30,040 --> 02:07:31,880
Speaker 9: itself for me. And so the idea of being sort

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02:07:31,920 --> 02:07:35,680
Speaker 9: of plucked, plucked out of my family, leaving my family

2408
02:07:35,800 --> 02:07:38,800
Speaker 9: with the records of my death like it just I

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02:07:38,840 --> 02:07:40,080
Speaker 9: couldn't bear to think about it.

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Speaker 1: That I get that makes perfect sense to me because

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02:07:42,840 --> 02:07:44,680
Speaker 1: you know, I have a wife, I have family, I

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02:07:44,800 --> 02:07:48,240
Speaker 1: love them dearly, and yeah, the idea of missing them.

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02:07:48,560 --> 02:07:50,720
Speaker 1: But see, then that goes back to is there something

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02:07:50,840 --> 02:07:54,960
Speaker 1: afterward that will cause you to miss them? I don't

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02:07:55,000 --> 02:07:57,400
Speaker 1: know what's coming. In my philosophy, I don't believe in ghosts.

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02:07:57,440 --> 02:08:00,919
Speaker 1: For example, Sebastian, I don't want to believe in the afterlife.

2417
02:08:00,920 --> 02:08:03,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be looming around, lurking, watching what people are doing,

2418
02:08:04,040 --> 02:08:06,040
Speaker 1: or scaring the crap out of people. I think God

2419
02:08:06,280 --> 02:08:08,920
Speaker 1: or we have a greater mystery out there to contemplate

2420
02:08:09,000 --> 02:08:11,440
Speaker 1: than something like that. So I choose not to believe

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02:08:11,440 --> 02:08:12,640
Speaker 1: in them because I don't want to believe in that

2422
02:08:12,680 --> 02:08:18,160
Speaker 1: as a concept. So, but that longing and that thinking

2423
02:08:18,240 --> 02:08:23,440
Speaker 1: about your current cognitive awareness of people and interactions and

2424
02:08:23,520 --> 02:08:26,240
Speaker 1: people thinking about you, were talking about you, that that

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02:08:26,440 --> 02:08:29,000
Speaker 1: has to continue to exist after you die to have

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02:08:29,120 --> 02:08:31,200
Speaker 1: some concern about what it's going to be like. I

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02:08:31,360 --> 02:08:32,520
Speaker 1: like to think that that's over with.

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, very very well, maybe overWe that, but you know,

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02:08:37,320 --> 02:08:40,120
Speaker 9: it was it was more an understanding now as a

2430
02:08:40,160 --> 02:08:45,480
Speaker 9: person who is alive, that this could all endown, right,

2431
02:08:45,640 --> 02:08:48,200
Speaker 9: And that's that's kind of that's kind of wrenching it

2432
02:08:48,320 --> 02:08:51,400
Speaker 9: and it it and also it was more the concern

2433
02:08:51,600 --> 02:08:53,680
Speaker 9: was more what you would do to my family, more

2434
02:08:53,760 --> 02:08:56,040
Speaker 9: left behind like that was that was a very very

2435
02:08:56,080 --> 02:08:59,920
Speaker 9: painful idea very young kids. And you know, I just

2436
02:09:00,040 --> 02:09:02,080
Speaker 9: say it was to unbearable.

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Speaker 3: To think about.

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02:09:02,440 --> 02:09:04,360
Speaker 1: I get it in my time of dying, how I

2439
02:09:04,440 --> 02:09:07,320
Speaker 1: came face to face with the idea of an afterlife.

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Speaker 1: My guest today Sebastian Younger. Again, this is empower You

2441
02:09:10,960 --> 02:09:14,520
Speaker 1: America dot org website. Register for the class next Tuesday,

2442
02:09:14,560 --> 02:09:16,720
Speaker 1: beginning at seven pm. And I understand you're gonna be

2443
02:09:16,720 --> 02:09:20,320
Speaker 1: doing question and answers as well. Oh yes, of course, yeah,

2444
02:09:20,360 --> 02:09:21,880
Speaker 1: I know. I look forward to it. I love feeling

2445
02:09:21,920 --> 02:09:27,040
Speaker 1: people's questions. Great part drama, part autobiography, part scientific inquiry

2446
02:09:27,080 --> 02:09:29,400
Speaker 1: into the mystery of death. It's all there next tuesdays

2447
02:09:29,440 --> 02:09:31,200
Speaker 1: the day. I hope a lot of people tune into this,

2448
02:09:31,240 --> 02:09:32,560
Speaker 1: and I hope a lot of people buy your book.

2449
02:09:32,840 --> 02:09:35,040
Speaker 1: And here's what I'll do. I'll have Sean McMahon, my

2450
02:09:35,720 --> 02:09:38,880
Speaker 1: producer for the day, add your book and a link

2451
02:09:38,920 --> 02:09:40,920
Speaker 1: to people where people can get it, probably Amazon, on

2452
02:09:40,960 --> 02:09:42,760
Speaker 1: my blog page so they can maybe get a copy

2453
02:09:42,840 --> 02:09:45,600
Speaker 1: in advance and start reading about what you experienced, maybe

2454
02:09:45,600 --> 02:09:49,440
Speaker 1: even advance of the seminar. Oh awesome, Thank you very much.

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02:09:49,600 --> 02:09:52,120
Speaker 1: My pleasure to do with Sebastian Younger, really a pleasure

2456
02:09:52,200 --> 02:09:55,640
Speaker 1: talking with you. Fascinating concept you're dealing with here, and again,

2457
02:09:55,760 --> 02:09:58,760
Speaker 1: best of luck on the empower You Seminar Tuesday, seven pm.

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02:09:59,000 --> 02:10:02,840
Speaker 1: Happy holidays to you, Sebastian, you two, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Thanks my friend eight nineteen. Right now, if you I

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Speaker 1: have KCD talk station, shot will open up the phone lines.

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Speaker 1: We have time to talk. I got other stories we

2462
02:10:09,000 --> 02:10:10,880
Speaker 1: can talk about. Maybe there's something I talked about earlier.

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Speaker 1: You want to chime in on it, feel free to

2464
02:10:12,840 --> 02:10:15,080
Speaker 1: do so, but that'll be after I mentioned my friends

2465
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Speaker 1: at Foreign Exchange. I really do view them as friends.

2466
02:10:17,960 --> 02:10:19,600
Speaker 1: It's kind of like family. Every time I go there,

2467
02:10:19,640 --> 02:10:21,080
Speaker 1: I know them all have been going there for years,

2468
02:10:21,080 --> 02:10:22,680
Speaker 1: and there's a good reason I've been going to Foreign

2469
02:10:22,680 --> 02:10:26,000
Speaker 1: Exchange for automobile repairs for years. I save a lot

2470
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Speaker 1: of money, plus I get that family like environment. They

2471
02:10:28,640 --> 02:10:30,840
Speaker 1: have a sc certified master technicians that know how to

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Speaker 1: work on any imported or traditionally imported car you bring them,

2473
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Speaker 1: whether it's from Asia or Europe. Exotic or run of

2474
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Speaker 1: the mill. Plus they service Tesla's as well. BOSH certified

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Speaker 1: business it is you get a full warranty on parts

2476
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Speaker 1: and service, and the greatest thing about it less money

2477
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Speaker 1: than the deal or deal. We all know automobile repairs

2478
02:10:51,040 --> 02:10:52,720
Speaker 1: have gone through the roof, so you can take some

2479
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Speaker 1: of the edge off of that by going to Foreign

2480
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Speaker 1: Exchange and you will be glad you went there. The

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Speaker 1: one I go to the location Westchester. That's the Howlersville

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Speaker 1: exit right off of I seventy five. Just go east,

2483
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Speaker 1: take a ride on Kinglin. It's the second street. Really

2484
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Speaker 1: easy to get to right there at the Exchange. To

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Speaker 1: find him online, it's foreign x dot Com A plus

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Speaker 1: with the BBB, of course foreign x dot Com five

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Speaker 1: four four, twenty six, twenty.

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Speaker 4: Six, fifty five KRC at Postman Law We're not Hey,

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Speaker 4: twenty nine and fifty five KRC de Talk Station.

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Speaker 1: Very Happy Friday to Yeah. I'm another reminder. I'm off

2492
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Speaker 1: Monday Tuesday. Maybe you don't care, but Gary Jeff Walker does.

2493
02:11:30,120 --> 02:11:31,960
Speaker 1: He's gonna be coming for me on Monday. So Gary Jeff,

2494
02:11:32,000 --> 02:11:33,920
Speaker 1: if you're out there, thank you in advance for doing that.

2495
02:11:34,520 --> 02:11:37,160
Speaker 1: Dan Carroll covering for me on tuesdays, I use up

2496
02:11:37,600 --> 02:11:40,000
Speaker 1: the remaining vacation I had days I have because if

2497
02:11:40,000 --> 02:11:41,920
Speaker 1: you don't use them, smoke them. If you got him

2498
02:11:41,920 --> 02:11:43,400
Speaker 1: around here, you can't keep them. Want to see if

2499
02:11:43,440 --> 02:11:47,400
Speaker 1: we can't get a a charity donation. I've seen other

2500
02:11:47,440 --> 02:11:49,760
Speaker 1: companies have this, and I don't think I heard has it.

2501
02:11:50,080 --> 02:11:52,720
Speaker 1: You've got unused vacation days and you can't carry him over,

2502
02:11:53,880 --> 02:11:57,000
Speaker 1: why not donate him somebody else, you know, maybe having

2503
02:11:57,040 --> 02:11:58,920
Speaker 1: a problem. Maybe guy had an aneurysm and you know

2504
02:11:58,960 --> 02:12:00,400
Speaker 1: you got to take care of his family or whatever.

2505
02:12:00,480 --> 02:12:02,880
Speaker 1: You know, donate your vacation days if you're not using them.

2506
02:12:02,960 --> 02:12:05,720
Speaker 1: So anyway, just a thought, But I'm trying to burn

2507
02:12:05,800 --> 02:12:09,800
Speaker 1: through minds, and Strucker decided late yesterday afternoon he was

2508
02:12:09,840 --> 02:12:11,920
Speaker 1: burning through one of his today. That's why Sean McMahon

2509
02:12:12,520 --> 02:12:14,400
Speaker 1: is doing a great job covering for Joe today. Let's

2510
02:12:14,400 --> 02:12:15,840
Speaker 1: go to the phone. See what Jim's got, Hey, Jim,

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02:12:15,920 --> 02:12:17,720
Speaker 1: thanks for calling man, Welcome to the Morning Show.

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Speaker 7: Good morning, Brian. Following up there on Peter Bronson's Bleeding Kansas.

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02:12:25,000 --> 02:12:28,240
Speaker 7: Leading up to that in the late eighteen thirties in

2514
02:12:28,440 --> 02:12:33,480
Speaker 7: that western western Missouri, the Morlings were chased out of Missouri.

2515
02:12:35,560 --> 02:12:38,360
Speaker 7: One of the main reasons was because they were anti slavery,

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Speaker 7: and in fact there was an extermination were issued on

2517
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Speaker 7: the Mormons, which was an effect, was issued by Governor

2518
02:12:47,280 --> 02:12:49,520
Speaker 7: Boggs and was an effect until the nineteen seventies.

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Speaker 1: No kidding, well, I learned a lot this morning. I

2520
02:12:54,440 --> 02:12:57,200
Speaker 1: had forgotten, or at least wasn't familiar with bleeding Kansas

2521
02:12:57,280 --> 02:12:59,800
Speaker 1: as a concept. I didn't realize John Brown was such

2522
02:12:59,800 --> 02:13:03,400
Speaker 1: a a savage, crazy guy. I just read this morning

2523
02:13:03,440 --> 02:13:08,200
Speaker 1: after I talked with Charles Bronson about the Potawatomy massacre,

2524
02:13:08,360 --> 02:13:12,400
Speaker 1: that he was behind hacking to death five pro slavery

2525
02:13:12,440 --> 02:13:15,000
Speaker 1: civilians with broadswords in the middle of the night. Not

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02:13:15,120 --> 02:13:17,680
Speaker 1: exactly a pleasant man he was. I guess I understand

2527
02:13:17,720 --> 02:13:20,000
Speaker 1: the motivations. I just don't think acting in that way

2528
02:13:20,120 --> 02:13:23,120
Speaker 1: is an appropriate way to resolve a political conflict. But

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02:13:24,080 --> 02:13:26,600
Speaker 1: crazy times back then, Jim, I appreciate you chiming in

2530
02:13:26,720 --> 02:13:28,400
Speaker 1: on that one, and again I'll encourage everybody to get

2531
02:13:28,440 --> 02:13:31,600
Speaker 1: the copy of Peter's book. It's really cool, magical history tour,

2532
02:13:31,720 --> 02:13:35,560
Speaker 1: murder Mystery Buried History. It's five short stories, and that

2533
02:13:35,920 --> 02:13:38,520
Speaker 1: is one of the wings that was discussed within that.

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02:13:38,640 --> 02:13:41,320
Speaker 1: The other thing he mention just that rifles at forty

2535
02:13:41,400 --> 02:13:47,360
Speaker 1: paces segment that we talked about the duel. The duel

2536
02:13:47,520 --> 02:13:51,000
Speaker 1: was with rifles at forty paces. So I always thought

2537
02:13:51,080 --> 02:13:53,839
Speaker 1: duels were with pistols, you know, grab one of the pistols,

2538
02:13:53,880 --> 02:13:56,160
Speaker 1: you know, and the again, going by the rules, you know,

2539
02:13:56,600 --> 02:13:59,920
Speaker 1: step ten paces, turn around and squeezed. I suppose you're

2540
02:14:00,000 --> 02:14:01,920
Speaker 1: are more likely to hit your target if you're shooting

2541
02:14:01,920 --> 02:14:05,480
Speaker 1: at the other guy with a rifle. Anyhow, Mark's go

2542
02:14:05,520 --> 02:14:08,040
Speaker 1: ahead and take Mark's call. I know's he's angry about

2543
02:14:08,080 --> 02:14:12,160
Speaker 1: my last guest, Mark, Welcome to the Morning show him. Ryan,

2544
02:14:12,680 --> 02:14:15,880
Speaker 1: it's on your mind, Mark, just real quick.

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Speaker 13: I just wanted to say I listened to your dad

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Speaker 13: for years and loved him. Just a little side note.

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Speaker 13: I was listening in the morning that Nancy McCormick helicopter

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Speaker 13: went and that was a trip. But none of that

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Speaker 13: last guy. I'm trying to figure out how we're blessed,

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Speaker 13: but he's an atheist.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 13: I just back blew my mind. And then both you

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Speaker 13: guys talking about like the afterlife, and that it's like,

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Speaker 13: does he believe in a soul? Do you believe in

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Speaker 13: a soul? I personally handed out of body experience, and

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Speaker 13: I saw my soul, saw my flesh and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was like my dad's friend. He was

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Speaker 1: watching himself from above on the operating table, and he

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Speaker 1: was a doc. I mean the guy was a surgeon too,

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Speaker 1: if I recall correctly, So he knew exactly what was

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Speaker 1: going on exactly the same thing.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, but just again, the thing that got my

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Speaker 13: eyer up was the sam we're blessed, but he doesn't

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Speaker 13: believe in God, So where's the blessing coming from?

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Speaker 1: Well, I consider myself blessed for the information. Apparently he's

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Speaker 1: written an amazing book. He should read the reviews of it.

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Speaker 1: People were moved by it in many different ways, people

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Speaker 1: of different faiths and religions, or maybe people who are

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Speaker 1: atheists or having no particular doctrinal dogmatic connection. It's still

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Speaker 1: fascinating subject matter. He lived through it, he's documented himself

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Speaker 1: that he had this experience. One would might tend to

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Speaker 1: believe that that might lead him to a conclusion that

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Speaker 1: there is an afterlife that may turn someone toward religion.

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Speaker 1: So it is a positive thing to talk about, and

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Speaker 1: it's a great thing to look at it from different

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Speaker 1: elements and aspects. I have many friends in the listening audience, Mark,

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Speaker 1: who are not religious. They are either atheists or agnostic.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever heard me say what religion I am?

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Speaker 1: None of my arguments, none of my principles, none of

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Speaker 1: my foundational points with regard to matters political ever, spring

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Speaker 1: from a religious philosophy. It may incorporate a particular set

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Speaker 1: of religious principles, but I'm trying to be neutral because

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Speaker 1: we are We do not live in a theocracy in

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Speaker 1: this country. If our founding fathers wanted to have an

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02:16:21,160 --> 02:16:24,640
Speaker 1: established religion which they fled from, they would have incorporated it.

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Speaker 1: That's why we have a First Amendment free exercise of

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Speaker 1: religion that accounts for all people. And as I go

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Speaker 1: through life, I can learn and be interested by and

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Speaker 1: ergo be blessed by the simple blessing of education, expanded thought,

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Speaker 1: expanded thinking, by interchanging and in exchange and exchanging ideas

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Speaker 1: with people of different faiths, religions, or maybe people who

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Speaker 1: don't even have them. I think that is in and

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Speaker 1: of itself a blessing. So I guess it depends on

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Speaker 1: how you define the word blessing Mark, But I'm glad

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Speaker 1: he's around. I'm glad he's willing to talk about it,

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Speaker 1: and if you log in the seminar, he's going to

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Speaker 1: be taking questions. Didn't this have an impact on your atheism?

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Speaker 1: Didn't your experience kind of give you the sense that

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Speaker 1: there is something out there that is more mysterious that

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Speaker 1: may have a full a connection with religion or not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe one could argue that even supports his atheism. Hmm.

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Speaker 1: If there's an afterlife and he's going to see his dad,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of one of the things that heaven conceptually

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Speaker 1: is all about. But an atheist got to experience that.

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Speaker 1: Even an atheist who doesn't believe in any of that,

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Speaker 1: had an after life experience. It's kind of interesting, and

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Speaker 1: that's why I gave him sort of I wanted to

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Speaker 1: emphasize it. He emphasizes in his own materials, in his

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Speaker 1: own book and his own description of his background that

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Speaker 1: he is so I thought that was one of the

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Speaker 1: more fascinating elements of his experience because most people might

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Speaker 1: use that as an opportunity to prosthlytize see there is

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Speaker 1: an afterlife, and that supports my personal belief systems. Whatever

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Speaker 1: they want happened to be that there is an afterlife

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna see something. So yeah, I think it's

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Speaker 1: a valuable exercise. So maybe you and I just view

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Speaker 1: the term blessing differently. Five one, three, seven, four nine

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Speaker 1: Ay forty eight to fifty five KRC detalk station, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you've time. You get religions, some people get angry. I

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Speaker 1: don't think he was necessarily angry, but Ernie claims, I'm

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Speaker 1: jumping through hoops to support my policies. I don't agree

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Speaker 1: with a lot of them. That's cool, Ernie, that's what

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Speaker 1: and I have to take his call. I knew he

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Speaker 1: on AT and T phone. Feel free to give me

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Speaker 1: a shout, Ernie, Listen, I say it all the time.

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Speaker 1: I'm one man. Opinions are like sphincters. We all have one.

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Speaker 1: I try to support everything that I believe in with

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Speaker 1: logic and reason and my profound faith and belief in

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Speaker 1: the Constitution and the principles embodied there by our founding fathers,

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Speaker 1: who literally lived through the whole idea of a established

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Speaker 1: religion and church. They had to pay taxes to the

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Speaker 1: Church of England whether or not they belong to the

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Speaker 1: Church of England the various colonies. So that was one

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Speaker 1: of the reasons why we have free exercise. That's okay.

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Speaker 1: In my world. Free exercise allows me to go down

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Speaker 1: whatever path I choose and That's what prostlyization is all about,

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Speaker 1: isn't it. There are folks out there in the world

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Speaker 1: that disagree with your particular religious philosophy. Maybe you sit

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Speaker 1: down and have a conversation with them, Maybe through engaging

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Speaker 1: in communication, logic, perhaps in reason, you can convince them

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Speaker 1: to come over to your side of the ledger.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 1: And if you are a believer and you really truly

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Speaker 1: believe that there's go what the eternal damnation, don't you

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Speaker 1: owe it to your friends to try to convince them

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Speaker 1: that you don't want them to go through eternal damnation?

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Speaker 1: Isn't that the point of prostialization, not necessarily bring another

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Speaker 1: member of into your faith, but to save them from

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Speaker 1: the eternal damnation that you believe in. I mean seriously,

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Speaker 1: but it's always a tricky subject. Always just saying, and

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Speaker 1: I've been asking the question since this morning. And thanks

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Speaker 1: again and props to Signal ninety nine. If you remember

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Speaker 1: on Facebook, then follow Signal ninety nine. She's a hoot,

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Speaker 1: but she is really on top of all things political

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Speaker 1: and not a huge fan of Mara have to have parwall,

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Speaker 1: but she brought it to everybody's attention, including the reporters

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Speaker 1: over WCPOU, I have to have par Ball apparently has

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Speaker 1: already had one automobile repossessed, but maybe even a second.

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Speaker 1: So Tanya Roork and Taylor Waiter over at the WCPO

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Speaker 1: reached out to Mara have to have pur Ball about

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Speaker 1: these claims that he has two repossessions orders for his

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Speaker 1: vehicles over the past couple of years now. This sprung

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Speaker 1: from this post from the admittedly satire page Signal ninety nine.

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Speaker 1: Although it does include a lot of satires, She is funny,

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Speaker 1: but it also includes a lot of very factual information,

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Speaker 1: like the fact that he and did get his car

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Speaker 1: repossessed at least once. Anyway, I guess they're looking into

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Speaker 1: whether there was a number two, so she got a

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Speaker 1: lot of attention. Claimed Parvall had his car repossessed in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four and then again now suggests that maybe

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Speaker 1: there's another one out there, so we uh. Thursday, she

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Speaker 1: posted a picture of an alleged repossession of the order

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Speaker 1: for Provall's twenty twenty three Lincoln Aviator date November six,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, and redacts a bunch of other information.

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Speaker 1: Page claimed that this wasn't the first order to repossess

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Speaker 1: one of his vehicles, claims he has two, so when

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Speaker 1: they reached out to him, he confirmed his car was

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Speaker 1: in fact repossessed last year. At least one last year

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Speaker 1: due to my carelessness, my auto pay on my car

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Speaker 1: was not working, and as a result, my car was repossessed.

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Speaker 1: Since that time, I have been in possession of my car.

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Speaker 1: I'm up to date of my payments, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: aware of any other pending issues. I thought that was

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Speaker 1: kind of curious. Not aware of any other pending issues.

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Speaker 1: Now would Signal ninety nine find out there might have

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Speaker 1: been a second repossession. If he doesn't claim to have

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Speaker 1: any awareness of it, I'll let you process that one anyway.

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Speaker 1: He says, I'm up to date on my payments and

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Speaker 1: I'm not aware of any of the pending issues. I

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Speaker 1: made a mistake, and I'll make sure it doesn't happen again. Now,

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Speaker 1: the question I have burning in the back of my mind.

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Speaker 1: Has anybody been through this repossession process before? And if so,

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Speaker 1: how long or how many car payments do you have

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Speaker 1: to miss before they can come over and repossess it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know they can't shut the power and

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Speaker 1: water off in your place without a whole lot of notice.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to think at least they can't evict you

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Speaker 1: without a lot of notice. But can they just miss

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Speaker 1: Can you just miss one payment and then show up

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Speaker 1: with a tow truck just asking for a friend? Feel

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Speaker 1: be a wonderful family friendly event. So fill the car

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Speaker 1: with the kids and friends. Head on over to the

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Speaker 1: Gate of seven Heaven Cemetery. Be there at seven to

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02:24:52,800 --> 02:24:54,840
Speaker 1: learn more about the details of the event as well

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02:24:54,920 --> 02:24:57,080
Speaker 1: as all the details relating to the Gate of Heaven Cemetery.

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Speaker 1: Here's the website, gateof Heaven dot org. That's Gate of

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Speaker 1: Heaven dot org.

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Speaker 4: Fifty five KRC.

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Speaker 1: Well done, Sean. Sean McMahon doing a great job coming

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Speaker 1: for the vacation, named Joe s director and playing the

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Speaker 1: only fifty five kr CE sanctioned Christmas music. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: there's some people that disagree with that too. No Trans

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Speaker 1: Siberian Orchestra for the fifty five cars Morton Show. I

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02:25:23,879 --> 02:25:26,440
Speaker 1: do love the Vince Garlty trio. And of course you

2767
02:25:26,560 --> 02:25:29,600
Speaker 1: cannot beat in terms of Christmas viewing Charlie Brown. Christmas

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Speaker 1: every single year in my life. Came out in sixty five,

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Speaker 1: the year of my birth, and make it a point

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Speaker 1: to watch it every year back I'll go on all

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Speaker 1: the way back to the days when you had to

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Speaker 1: plan for it. Oh, it's gonna be Friday at you know,

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Speaker 1: seven pm or whatever, gather around the TV and wait

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02:25:42,879 --> 02:25:44,800
Speaker 1: for it to come on, and you can throw a

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Speaker 1: disc in. That's old school too, isn't it. Just pull

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Speaker 1: it up on your streaming audio service. But if you

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Speaker 1: forgot what Christmas is about, Ernie forgot what Christmas is about,

2778
02:25:54,480 --> 02:25:59,160
Speaker 1: watched the Charlie Brown Christmas. Merry Christmas, Charlie Brown, and

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Speaker 1: enjoy the Vince Girl trio. That was the first thing

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Speaker 1: I put on. I've been trying to get myself in

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Speaker 1: a Christmas spirit and started doing some cooking the other

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02:26:07,160 --> 02:26:10,240
Speaker 1: day in the kitchen, and I even the day after Thanksgiving,

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02:26:10,280 --> 02:26:13,320
Speaker 1: which I never put Christmas on until at least into December,

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02:26:13,920 --> 02:26:16,000
Speaker 1: I put on the Vince Garaldi trio while I was cooking,

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Speaker 1: and it really put a smile on my face. So

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Speaker 1: try to make an effort to put a smile on

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Speaker 1: your face, especially in these trying times. And speaking of

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02:26:22,400 --> 02:26:25,840
Speaker 1: trying times, Oh real quick, who was it? Let me

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02:26:25,879 --> 02:26:30,279
Speaker 1: give credit where credit is to got a message alerting

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Speaker 1: me to this. Oh shoot, Chip, I had mentioned this,

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02:26:40,040 --> 02:26:45,800
Speaker 1: this letter coming from Hugo carraval Barrios. He is in prison,

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Speaker 1: former three star Venezuela in general and director of military intelligence.

2793
02:26:51,760 --> 02:26:55,440
Speaker 1: Now he is talking about how the Venezuelans and Maduro

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02:26:55,920 --> 02:26:59,520
Speaker 1: are weaponizing drugs as tools against America. This is much

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02:26:59,560 --> 02:27:02,200
Speaker 1: in the way that Chinese Communist Party weaponizes literally everything

2796
02:27:02,520 --> 02:27:05,280
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, hacking into servers, preparing themselves for the

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02:27:05,360 --> 02:27:08,560
Speaker 1: day when they flip the switch, using social media divide us,

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02:27:08,640 --> 02:27:12,200
Speaker 1: to divide us and advance their political agenda, maybe advancing

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02:27:12,280 --> 02:27:14,840
Speaker 1: the cause of atheism. Earnie, I don't know, but they're

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02:27:14,879 --> 02:27:19,480
Speaker 1: doing the various things out there. Well. One of the

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Speaker 1: things he said was about this election system, nonsense smartmatic system.

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02:27:23,600 --> 02:27:26,480
Speaker 1: He said, I placed the head of it, of the

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Speaker 1: National Electoral Council that would be a position in Venezuela,

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Speaker 1: in his position, and he reported directly to me the

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02:27:33,520 --> 02:27:38,720
Speaker 1: smartmatic system can be altered. This is a fact. Now,

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Speaker 1: he says, it's all. It was altered in the Venezuelan elections.

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Speaker 1: And many people are saying that election was stolen by Maduro,

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02:27:44,360 --> 02:27:46,840
Speaker 1: and I tend to agree with that, you know, sort

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02:27:46,879 --> 02:27:50,360
Speaker 1: of assessment. But he doesn't claim necessarily that every election

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Speaker 1: that's related to smartmatic is stolen. He doesn't lay specific

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Speaker 1: charges with regard to elections in the United States, but

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Speaker 1: there was some connection with Smartmatic and some of the

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Speaker 1: voting systems that we use here and so Dominion for example.

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Speaker 1: And so when I mentioned Dominion, chip alerted to me,

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02:28:07,640 --> 02:28:09,640
Speaker 1: I think I may have read it, But that has

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02:28:09,760 --> 02:28:14,160
Speaker 1: been purchased and it no longer has any connection with

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02:28:14,440 --> 02:28:18,720
Speaker 1: the Smartmatic folks. A guy named Scott Weyendecker, founder and

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Speaker 1: chairman of Liberty Vote, and he's the only owner of

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02:28:21,600 --> 02:28:26,040
Speaker 1: Dominion voting systems, former GOP election reform advocate, and he

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02:28:26,120 --> 02:28:29,240
Speaker 1: acquired Dominion as the sole private owner earlier this year.

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Speaker 1: So finally we have no connection at least with the Venezuelans.

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Speaker 1: Whether or not you believe in the integrity to vote

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Speaker 1: or whether these electronic voting system should be used or

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02:28:37,040 --> 02:28:39,720
Speaker 1: not is a different thing. But I wanted to update

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Speaker 1: you on that. And then the other reality we have

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02:28:41,920 --> 02:28:46,560
Speaker 1: to deal with. It's the political reality. You remember why

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02:28:46,640 --> 02:28:51,520
Speaker 1: the government shut down recently? Remember Continuing Resolution? It passed

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02:28:52,120 --> 02:28:55,200
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the Biden level funding levels from

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Why do the Republicans do that and

2830
02:28:58,160 --> 02:29:01,360
Speaker 1: not like Thomas Massey wanted in others cut the size

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02:29:01,400 --> 02:29:03,880
Speaker 1: of government with the Continuing Resolution because they wanted to

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02:29:03,920 --> 02:29:08,279
Speaker 1: deprive the Democrats of an argument. They had no argument,

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Speaker 1: which is why they capitulated. They couldn't say, ah, those

2834
02:29:10,520 --> 02:29:12,600
Speaker 1: evil Republicans want to cut this, that, and the other thing.

2835
02:29:14,879 --> 02:29:17,720
Speaker 1: So we were left with that reality Biden level funding.

2836
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Speaker 1: But it gave them the upper hand in a political argument. Look,

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02:29:21,440 --> 02:29:23,480
Speaker 1: you're the one that put the expiration of the tax

2838
02:29:23,600 --> 02:29:26,600
Speaker 1: credits in there, Democrats, we didn't even vote for that.

2839
02:29:27,560 --> 02:29:31,240
Speaker 1: You own it. Now since that battle was won, the

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02:29:31,280 --> 02:29:33,520
Speaker 1: tax credits are expiring at the end of the month,

2841
02:29:34,040 --> 02:29:36,360
Speaker 1: and it's really being it's an eye opener because the

2842
02:29:36,440 --> 02:29:38,200
Speaker 1: notices are going out and people are coming to the

2843
02:29:38,240 --> 02:29:39,959
Speaker 1: painful reality of what they're going to be paying under

2844
02:29:40,040 --> 02:29:43,560
Speaker 1: Obamacare on a monthly basis, if, of course, they're above

2845
02:29:43,760 --> 02:29:46,000
Speaker 1: the poverty level cut off of which I think is

2846
02:29:46,080 --> 02:29:50,959
Speaker 1: like sixty two thousand dollars roughly. Now, those Obamacare tax

2847
02:29:51,080 --> 02:29:53,640
Speaker 1: credits that they wanted to extend were, you know, folks

2848
02:29:53,760 --> 02:29:56,200
Speaker 1: making more than six hundred percent of the poverty level,

2849
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Speaker 1: some making one thousand percent of the federal poverty level. Yeah,

2850
02:29:59,160 --> 02:30:00,840
Speaker 1: is there a reason to get them credit? No, it

2851
02:30:00,959 --> 02:30:05,160
Speaker 1: masks the real cost of Obamacare. But now we've got

2852
02:30:05,160 --> 02:30:07,760
Speaker 1: a dozen Republican lawmakers joining with a bunch of Democrats

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Speaker 1: in support of extending them, continue the argument that they're

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02:30:13,520 --> 02:30:15,120
Speaker 1: making no no, they end at the end of the month.

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Speaker 3: This is you.

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Speaker 1: Now they're suggesting maybe we should extend them for a year,

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02:30:18,680 --> 02:30:25,959
Speaker 1: maybe two years. Why because of November twenty six, Republicans

2858
02:30:26,000 --> 02:30:27,960
Speaker 1: at least a handful of them now are coming to

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02:30:28,000 --> 02:30:29,720
Speaker 1: the paint for reality. This is going to provide the

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02:30:29,760 --> 02:30:34,480
Speaker 1: Democrats with an argument, look at what they did. They

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Speaker 1: made your premiums go up. They didn't change anything about healthcare.

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02:30:37,720 --> 02:30:39,520
Speaker 1: You're the ones that created the system and the mess

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02:30:39,560 --> 02:30:41,480
Speaker 1: that it brought about. You're the ones that is the

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02:30:41,560 --> 02:30:43,680
Speaker 1: reason why the premiums are so high if we get

2865
02:30:43,760 --> 02:30:46,520
Speaker 1: to experience the reality of them because you're not covering

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02:30:46,560 --> 02:30:49,760
Speaker 1: them over with the taxpayer sponsored credit. But since that

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02:30:50,040 --> 02:30:53,200
Speaker 1: argument will be there, the Republicans are worried that we

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Speaker 1: go into November of twenty six, they're going to be

2869
02:30:55,400 --> 02:30:57,920
Speaker 1: screaming about us being evil and cutting off all these

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Speaker 1: supplements and they'll have and now they're worried. Let's be

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02:31:03,520 --> 02:31:05,840
Speaker 1: frank here for a minute. If they don't do it,

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Speaker 1: extend them by December thirty. First, the premiums are going

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02:31:09,000 --> 02:31:10,680
Speaker 1: to go up. It's going to cause chaos. The poll

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02:31:10,760 --> 02:31:13,560
Speaker 1: numbers are going to go down. That's surrender for the midterms.

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Speaker 1: That's a quote from Washington Bureau Chief Matt Boyle at Breitbart,

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Speaker 1: who's been on this program a bunch of times. The

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Speaker 1: smart move for the Republicans, he said, is to take

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02:31:21,360 --> 02:31:23,720
Speaker 1: the weapons away from the Democrats and push it beyond

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty eight election. Yep. Now, whether or not

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Speaker 1: I agree with Matts's, you know, the assessment overall, I

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02:31:29,640 --> 02:31:34,240
Speaker 1: think it's accurate politically, But is this not further kicking

2882
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Speaker 1: the can down the road? Is this not the same

2883
02:31:36,320 --> 02:31:39,280
Speaker 1: exercise we go through all the time, over and over

2884
02:31:39,440 --> 02:31:44,280
Speaker 1: and over and over again. And when you read about

2885
02:31:44,480 --> 02:31:50,039
Speaker 1: the amount of corruption that exists, not Minnesota like corruption

2886
02:31:50,240 --> 02:31:55,080
Speaker 1: with other programs, but corruption in connection with the Affordable

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02:31:55,200 --> 02:32:00,600
Speaker 1: Care Act and the tax credits. When you see how

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02:32:00,640 --> 02:32:03,880
Speaker 1: many numbers social security names were used over and over

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02:32:04,000 --> 02:32:09,240
Speaker 1: again by multiple people, multiple times, fake social Security numbers,

2890
02:32:09,720 --> 02:32:15,400
Speaker 1: no checking for fraud, waste, and abuse, it's like nonexistent.

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Speaker 1: The GAO did its own undercover test, our own government

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02:32:19,800 --> 02:32:23,920
Speaker 1: put out fake applicants. They were approved ninety percent of

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Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, this is what we're signing up for.

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Speaker 1: Eight fifty six fifty five cars City Talk Station. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna enjoy a long weekend. Enjoy Gary Jeff Walker on Monday,

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Speaker 1: Dan Carol on Tuesday. I appreciate you tune in the

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Speaker 1: Morning Show if you'd get a chance to listen to

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Speaker 1: Tech Friday, Dave Hatter or Peter Brownson. Get a copy

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Speaker 1: of his book Magical History Tour. He was in studio

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Speaker 1: for a full hour. Sebastian Younger. Whether you like him

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Speaker 1: or not, he's doing the Empower Youth Summoner on the

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Speaker 1: ninth at seven pm. I think it was fascinating. It's

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Speaker 1: all right there fifty five Casity dot Com. Thank you

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Speaker 1: Sean McMahon for covering four. Joe Strekker, have a great weekend, everybody.

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