Speaker 1: Saturday midday on what's going to be a very very
Speaker 1: nasty day. Cold weather advisory and effect from seven o'clock
Speaker 1: tonight to eleven o'clock tomorrow morning. Snow expected, some times
Speaker 1: heavy total accumulation between four and six inches. Did I
Speaker 1: tell you I hate this weather?
Speaker 2: Hate it? Anyway?
Speaker 1: This week you probably saw it. Australia, we'll tell you
Speaker 1: what took some guts. They banned social media for kids
Speaker 1: sixteen and under. They become the first country to do
Speaker 1: that and tell you, I don't know about you. I
Speaker 1: hope we follow that pretty soon, but at any rate,
Speaker 1: Australia has implemented a world first law that effectively bans
Speaker 1: children under sixteen from social media. It places the responsibility
Speaker 1: for enforcement on the social media companies. That's where be,
Speaker 1: not the children or their parents. Just some details of
Speaker 1: the band. The affected platforms the ones you'd expect, Facebook, Instagram, threads, Snapchat,
Speaker 1: TikTok x, YouTube, Reddit, Twitch, and kick Now. There are
Speaker 1: some platforms that are exempt WhatsApp, discord, roboox. I don't
Speaker 1: know about any of these, Pinterest, YouTube kits and Google
Speaker 1: classroom they're exempt. Okay, enforcement and penalties social media companies
Speaker 1: must take reasonable steps to prevent underage users from creating
Speaker 1: or accessing accounts. Failure to do so could result in
Speaker 1: fines of up to thirty three million bucks American for
Speaker 1: serious or repeated breaches. They want to age verification on
Speaker 1: these platforms before you can even get on. And again
Speaker 1: no penalties for the teens or the parents. And the goal,
Speaker 1: according to the Australian government, they introduce this band to
Speaker 1: protect young people from the negative impacts of social media
Speaker 1: such as harmful content, misogynistic material, content promoting eating disorders
Speaker 1: or suicide. And boy, we're gonna talk about this a
Speaker 1: little bit later, cyberbullying, huge, addictive decision, addictive design features.
Speaker 1: So the Nation of Australia putting the foot down on
Speaker 1: social media. So you know, I tell you what I say.
Speaker 1: Congratulations to Austria for doing that and having the guts
Speaker 1: to do it. And from everything that I've read about
Speaker 1: this week, there was a massive push from lobbyists and
Speaker 1: others not to do this. There will be litigation, I'm certain,
Speaker 1: but at least it's the first step. The social media
Speaker 1: companies again from what I've read, they poured millions of
Speaker 1: bucks into lobbying and everything else. To try to stop
Speaker 1: this from happening, but it did. You know, I've said
Speaker 1: this before, or make no mistake, I would not want
Speaker 1: to be a teenager growing up in this environment today.
Speaker 1: I just wouldn't. And you know you can say, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're an old fuddy dady blah blah blah, but I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: And I feel sorry for these kids today, and I
Speaker 1: also would not want to be a parent raising teenagers
Speaker 1: in this environment. Let me ask you a question, and
Speaker 1: I've asked this before, when was the last time you
Speaker 1: drove by an athletic field or you know, even like
Speaker 1: a vacant lot and saw kids playing baseball, football, basketball, whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't mean, you know, formal team sports. I mean
Speaker 1: just a group of boys or girls doing that. I
Speaker 1: can't tell you the last time I've seen that, And
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding you. You just don't see it at
Speaker 1: all anymore because they're all indoors, you know, doing the
Speaker 1: scrolling things on their phone. You know, I tell you
Speaker 1: those kind of things that I talked about before, scrub
Speaker 1: football games, baseball games at nighttime, kick the can. We
Speaker 1: did that every day when the weather was permitting in
Speaker 1: the summer, fall and even the winter. And again, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want people saying, well, you know, he's just
Speaker 1: an old fuddy duddy, always talking about how it was
Speaker 1: when he grew up.
Speaker 2: But boy, I tell you what it was different.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: The biggest worry that we had was breaking a window
Speaker 1: at the Hay Memorial Stadium on Lucina Drive, where we
Speaker 1: paid played. And if you busted a window, that was
Speaker 1: a big deal. But you know what, it would almost
Speaker 1: be worth it now just to see that there are
Speaker 1: some kids out there doing what kids are supposed to do,
Speaker 1: playing games, working, shoveling snow, cutting grass, and not thumbing
Speaker 1: through your cell phone. You know, you never see that
Speaker 1: stuff anymore. You just don't. Kids just don't do that anymore.
Speaker 1: You know, I'd shoveling snow. I'll tell you what. As
Speaker 1: early as we possibly could. When I'm getting yelled at
Speaker 1: by people, we were out there making good money, I
Speaker 1: mean really good money shoveling snow. I can tell you,
Speaker 1: In all the places I've lived, I've never had a
Speaker 1: kid bang on my door and say, hey, mister, you know,
Speaker 1: can I shovel your snow?
Speaker 2: It just doesn't happen.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Another example too of kids not socializing anymore. It's the
Speaker 1: dating ritual. At least when I was coming up, it
Speaker 1: was a ritual. You had to first of all fight
Speaker 1: your brothers and sisters for the phone. But before that
Speaker 1: you had to screw up the courage to call the
Speaker 1: girl to ask her out, then pick her up the
Speaker 1: door and meet the parents. Apparently that doesn't happen anymore.
Speaker 1: You know, people just show up at a mall or
Speaker 1: a restaurant or whatever. I mean, this is really serious stuff,
Speaker 1: it is, according to AI, and I think AI hit
Speaker 1: the name on the head with this one. Research and
Speaker 1: official health advisors indicate that social media presents a meaningful
Speaker 1: risk of harm to youth, contributing to a national youth
Speaker 1: mental health crisis. Studies show a strong correlation between excessive
Speaker 1: social media use and increased rates of depression, anxiety, poor
Speaker 1: body image, sleep deprivation, and children and adolescents as well.
Speaker 1: Here's just some of the key concerns that had been
Speaker 1: outlined with this use of social media by kids, mental
Speaker 1: health issues. That's got to be the biggest one. Studies
Speaker 1: indicate that teams who spend more than three hours a
Speaker 1: day on social media double their risk of experiencing negative
Speaker 1: mental health outcomes. The constant viewing of curated highlight reels
Speaker 1: of others' lives can lead to feelings of inadequacy, low
Speaker 1: self esteem, social comparison, often exacerbating existing mental health struggles.
Speaker 1: Brain development basically says that you're on this social media
Speaker 1: all day, your brain's not going to get developed as
Speaker 1: it should, and I think that kind of speaks for itself.
Speaker 2: Sleep deprivation.
Speaker 1: I guess there's a lot of kids laying up in
Speaker 1: bed when they're supposed to be asleep, playing around on
Speaker 1: their phones, which of course results in sleep deprivation. This
Speaker 1: one is a big one, and I've had this in
Speaker 1: my law practice a number of times. Cyber bowling and
Speaker 1: inappropriate content social media platforms can be then used for
Speaker 1: cyber bullying and online harassment, which, unlike traditional bowling bullying,
Speaker 1: can be constant. Additionally, algorithms may feed children harmful content,
Speaker 1: such as that promoting self harm, eating disorders, or risky challenges.
Speaker 1: We've seen examples of that just over the last couple
Speaker 1: of months. Social skills development, time spent on screens can
Speaker 1: replace face to face interactions, hindering the development of crucial
Speaker 1: in person social skills like reading, nonverbal cues and empathy.
Speaker 1: It doesn't really get much worse than that, does it.
Speaker 1: I think the case is stated pretty well, and social
Speaker 1: media is also affecting these teenagers'.
Speaker 2: Ability to work.
Speaker 1: There's a lady, her name is Emily Jackis Jaksh. She's
Speaker 1: an author and she's an HR consultant. She writes extensively
Speaker 1: on this issue, and she's also the.
Speaker 2: Mother of an eleven year old boy.
Speaker 1: Here's what she writes, pretty basic and to the point,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to quote her here.
Speaker 2: Let's be blunt.
Speaker 1: Social media is destroying our young people. Close quote. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you hard to argue with that. Pretty strong, but
Speaker 1: hard to argue with it. She goes on to say,
Speaker 1: we've handed had smartphones and unfettered internet access, and in return,
Speaker 1: we're watching their mental health crumble, anxiety, depression, addiction to scrolling,
Speaker 1: a complete lack of resilience. It goes on quite a bit,
Speaker 1: you know. She talks about her eleven year old son.
Speaker 1: She says, last year, my then eleven year old son
Speaker 1: was like every other kid. He had to have one
Speaker 1: of my old iPhones, and I thought I could handle.
Speaker 2: I had a handle on what he was up to,
Speaker 2: she says, but boy, I was wrong.
Speaker 1: He was begging me for TikTok Snapchat because all of
Speaker 1: his friends had it. I said no, I'd already made
Speaker 1: the decision that he wouldn't have access to social media
Speaker 1: like in Australia until he was at least sixteen. She
Speaker 1: makes this point, She's right, kids are more tech savty
Speaker 1: than savvy than we give them credit. For. Her son,
Speaker 1: she says, set up a TikTok account behind her back
Speaker 1: and when she found that, she was horrified. Says that
Speaker 1: that was her wake up call. Now. Ms Jacks suggests
Speaker 1: four things that we need to do, in her words,
Speaker 1: to fix this mess. Number one, no smartphones before high school.
Speaker 1: It's hard to disagree with that. No social media until
Speaker 1: age sixteen. Again, that's what Australia's doing. We need to
Speaker 1: and this is kind of a movement that I've seen
Speaker 1: some action on.
Speaker 2: Phone free schools.
Speaker 1: I don't know how teachers put up with it, the
Speaker 1: constant interruptions, but you don't need these things in school.
Speaker 1: And her last point is interesting and I think accurate.
Speaker 1: She says, give kids more independence in the real world.
Speaker 1: Let them walk to school, ride their bikes, make mistakes,
Speaker 1: solve problems, talk to people, let them actually be kids again.
Speaker 1: Good advice, I'm certain. Okay, Fortunately, you're not gonna believe this.
Speaker 1: There is some bipartisan action in Congress to deal with
Speaker 1: this issue. And you might have just heard me say
Speaker 1: bipartisan action, which we never see anymore. This issue is
Speaker 1: Taylor made for bipartisan action on this. There's no liberal
Speaker 1: way of looking at this, no conservative way. The only
Speaker 1: way to look at it is is the damage and
Speaker 1: in my humble opinion, the real damage that this is
Speaker 1: doing the kids. Okay, here's a couple things cooking in Congress.
Speaker 1: The Kids Online Safety Act KOSA. This bill, sponsored by
Speaker 1: Senator Richard Blumenthal, a Democrat from Connecticut, and Marshall Blackburn,
Speaker 1: of course, Republican from Tennessee, has strong bipartisan support, with
Speaker 1: over half the Senate backing it.
Speaker 2: COSA.
Speaker 1: KOSA focuses on providing miners and parents with safeguards such
Speaker 1: as option to disable addictive features and opt out of
Speaker 1: personalized algorithmic recommendations.
Speaker 2: Say that five times fis.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know obviously that could help, but
Speaker 1: I think a total ban like Australia is what we need.
Speaker 2: Okay, there's another one, bipartisan.
Speaker 1: It's called the Kids Off Social Media Act COSMA, that
Speaker 1: was introduced by Senator Brian Schultz, Democrat of Hawaii and
Speaker 1: our own Ted Cruz. This by bartisan bill was reintroduced
Speaker 1: May twenty twenty four, ordered reported out by the Senate
Speaker 1: Committee Commerce Committee in June of nineteen twenty five.
Speaker 2: It takes a.
Speaker 1: More direct approach by prohibiting children under thirteen from creating
Speaker 1: or maintaining social media accounts. I like that beginning algorithmic
Speaker 1: recommendation systems for users under seventeen, requiring schools to block
Speaker 1: social media access on federally funded networks. So there is
Speaker 1: some action on this, as there should be. Again, it's
Speaker 1: good to see that it's by partisan. Here's what I
Speaker 1: think we need to do, and I think we need
Speaker 1: to do it now. Watch Australia. Keep an eye on Australia,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to to see how this is working
Speaker 1: over there. There will be bookoo challenges to it, there's
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Probably already has been. But I
Speaker 1: love the Aussies. My daughter's living over there now, but
Speaker 1: let them be the guinea pig.
Speaker 2: For this thing.
Speaker 1: I think we need to enact the cosma we just
Speaker 1: talked about, or I think probably better. No, Kosa is
Speaker 1: the better one. Cosma, I'm sorry, kids off social media
Speaker 1: act Cosma is the better one. That's the one sponsored
Speaker 1: by Ted Cruz and Brian Shatz. So it's a problem.
Speaker 1: I think we're sticking our head in the sand if
Speaker 1: we don't realize that it's a pro It breaks my
Speaker 1: heart to see these kids, and I saw something not
Speaker 1: too long ago. The average time per day online is
Speaker 1: like three to four and in some cases five hours.
Speaker 1: That ain't good. These kids ought to be outside playing
Speaker 1: shoveling snow mow and grass, playing football, playing baseball. And
Speaker 1: I don't mean team sports. I mean just a bunch
Speaker 1: of boys or girls of the neighborhood getting out and
Speaker 1: doing something. We absolutely have to have some action on this,
Speaker 1: and hopefully we will.
Speaker 2: Anyway, that's what I think. I want to know what
Speaker 2: you think.
Speaker 1: Seven four nine, seven thousand, one, eight hundred, the big
Speaker 1: one are the numbers? Call on Saturday midday? Well, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what a lot of people want to talk
Speaker 1: about this topic. So let's get to it. How's about Steve.
Speaker 1: Let's talk to Steve.
Speaker 2: Hey, good morning, Steve morning, How are you. I'm good?
Speaker 2: What you got for me?
Speaker 5: I just had wanted to get your thoughts on the
Speaker 5: you know, the social media band. What impact do you
Speaker 5: think that would have on you know, getting a political
Speaker 5: message out from you know, either side really, but since
Speaker 5: there's a you know, a recent surge in the Republican
Speaker 5: side of getting that message out, do you think that
Speaker 5: would have a big impact?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 1: Not, And I'm talking about a band for those sixteen
Speaker 1: and under. Actually Australia's is under sixteen.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: Uh, you know at sixteen obviously you can't vote. There's
Speaker 1: some people that want to make at sixteen. But I
Speaker 1: don't think it would affect what adults do politically online
Speaker 1: at all. This is all about kids, and it's all
Speaker 1: about tearing the kids away from their damn cell phones.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I just thought since there was like a big,
Speaker 5: you know emphasis on indoctrinating kids one way or the other,
Speaker 5: you get a head start, you know with the messaging
Speaker 5: ads and stuff.
Speaker 2: They might and I unders contact with.
Speaker 1: I do understand that, but I don't know. I mean
Speaker 1: my thought is, let's kind of see what happens in Australia.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're the guinea pigs. But boy, there are
Speaker 1: experts everywhere that will tell you that social media is
Speaker 1: really harming our kids. I don't think it takes too
Speaker 1: much to figure that out, but you know, we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens.
Speaker 4: By I agree.
Speaker 5: I have the same issue with my kids as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's like I say, you know, Steve, I'm
Speaker 1: glad I'm not raising the teenager now. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: so much pressure on him, especially young women too. You know,
Speaker 1: they're compared to people that are on social media, and
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just a lot, I think, but
Speaker 1: I guess we'll have to see.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I appreciate sure feedback. That just popped in my
Speaker 5: mind when I was listening to your topic this morning.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Steve, call anytime, all right, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk too. How's about Barry up in Miamisburg. Hey,
Speaker 1: good morning, Barry, Hey, good morning.
Speaker 6: What'd you got when you and I were in college
Speaker 6: and in high school? If we wanted to, we could
Speaker 6: bring in a tape recorder and record the lecture. Do
Speaker 6: you remember that?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 1: I didn't do it, but I do kind of remember
Speaker 1: some people doing it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, some of us who had really poor not taking skills,
Speaker 6: did it right. I was one of them. Since then,
Speaker 6: they have banned tape recorders. They're trying to ban phones
Speaker 6: that are being used to record. My question is not
Speaker 6: so much phones are disturbance. Who cares that the kid
Speaker 6: next to you is playing Candy Crush. It's not a thing.
Speaker 6: My question is what are the schools and the government
Speaker 6: trying to hide. What don't they want the parents to
Speaker 6: know their teaching.
Speaker 2: That's a good point, it's a very good point. Let
Speaker 2: me address it.
Speaker 1: Uh, there have been proposals we talked about them a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago on this show, whereby somebody put
Speaker 1: this idea forward.
Speaker 2: In a classroom, you have a PA system.
Speaker 1: I guess that's ancient terminology, but you know it ought
Speaker 1: to be set up in a classroom. I think that
Speaker 1: the teachers are their videotape in the classes, videotape that
Speaker 1: and it can be watched by only by parents or
Speaker 1: guardians of these kids. That lets teachers know, hey, you
Speaker 1: know what, you're gonna have to answer to somebody if
Speaker 1: you start spewing all the garbage in the indoctrination. That
Speaker 1: would take care of that. Of course, the teachers' unions
Speaker 1: don't want to have anything to do.
Speaker 6: I'll never allow that because they don't want you to know.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 6: That's what's all about. The government doesn't want you to
Speaker 6: know what they're teaching their kids, and they're you candy
Speaker 6: crust or another game as an excuse boo boo.
Speaker 1: Well you know what, and I guess I understand what
Speaker 1: you're saying, Barry, But I mean a huge problem.
Speaker 2: And if you look at it, I think you'd agree
Speaker 2: with me.
Speaker 1: Is this whole social media for these teenagers and you know,
Speaker 1: we got to do something, I think and I guess
Speaker 1: we'll have to watch Australia to see how it works there.
Speaker 2: Well, you've heard my few things.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thank you, Barry. All right, let's see.
Speaker 1: Let me just say something first. I see where Barry's
Speaker 1: going with it. You know, he wants to have kids
Speaker 1: be able to record teachers. And I'll tell you I
Speaker 1: can see the benefit in that, I really can. You know,
Speaker 1: his teachers got to know that somebody's watching them. I
Speaker 1: like my idea better. You know, either audio tape or
Speaker 1: videotape them. Well, you know when they got to hide,
Speaker 1: really and you could make that where the only people
Speaker 1: that have access to that are the parents, that's it,
Speaker 1: and the teacher obviously.
Speaker 2: But I guess we have to see how that goes.
Speaker 1: U two problems there, the whole social media problem and
Speaker 1: then obviously the indoctrination problem.
Speaker 2: Hey, let's talk to Keith. Hey, good morning, Keith.
Speaker 4: Hey, Mike, how are you. I'm good, big fan of yours.
Speaker 4: The prosecutors officuely needs more people like you in it
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 2: Thanks.
Speaker 4: But my thing with the social media ban for kids is,
Speaker 4: you know, one, I agree with the problem. Social media
Speaker 4: is a problem for kids, but that's a parents' job
Speaker 4: to do. And the last thing we need to do
Speaker 4: is hand over power to these companies to regulate us,
Speaker 4: and you get Democrats a weapon to use against Republicans. Like, honestly,
Speaker 4: Republicans stand for free speech right now and they need
Speaker 4: to stick with that message otherwise they're gonna be a
Speaker 4: blood bath in the next election. Well, so I think,
Speaker 4: you know, you look at like what's going on in Europe,
Speaker 4: what's going on in Australia. You know, in Australia, they're
Speaker 4: not banning Blue Sky, which is the most liberal platform
Speaker 4: out there. And so I think your idea is great.
Speaker 4: You know, one, get rid of cell phones in school.
Speaker 4: I'm down with that, and I think too with that,
Speaker 4: say that, you know, we're going to videotape these classrooms
Speaker 4: so that the kids can have access to the information
Speaker 4: if they want to record it, that may be able
Speaker 4: to get around for the for the teachers. I think,
Speaker 4: you know, right now, Republicans are seen as the free
Speaker 4: speech party, and I think they need to focus on that,
Speaker 4: and I'll you know, honestly, they need to pass some
Speaker 4: of these regulations that Trump is put in place, get
Speaker 4: some of the executive orders made into law, and stop
Speaker 4: blocking the judicial nominations, because that's right now, the Republicans
Speaker 4: are not doing anything to differentiate themselves from what's going
Speaker 4: on in Europe or from even the Democrats at home.
Speaker 2: You know, they're going crazy in Europe.
Speaker 1: I thought I saw something this week where the UK
Speaker 1: they're actually locking people up for putting stuff on social
Speaker 1: media that the government doesn't like.
Speaker 2: That is frightening. I mean, in a lot of look
Speaker 2: at it.
Speaker 4: I mean, Mike, look at the numbers. It's insane, and honestly,
Speaker 4: you know, if the lawn must think about it, what
Speaker 4: you will if he wouldn't have bought Twitter and made
Speaker 4: it free, like a lot of this wouldn't be out there.
Speaker 2: In the public sphere.
Speaker 4: And look at look at the numbers of people who
Speaker 4: have been incarcerated in UK for online posts and harassment
Speaker 4: and that type of thing. And it's through the roof,
Speaker 4: and it's only gonna get worse, you know. And now
Speaker 4: they want to start a war with Russia, and that's
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not a fan of Russia by any means,
Speaker 4: But do you think that the immigrants are gonna be
Speaker 4: the ones that go fight that war? No, it's going
Speaker 4: to be the you know, the native population. And the
Speaker 4: governments in Europe right now are out of control and
Speaker 4: they have an agenda.
Speaker 1: They're going down to crapper and the President is not
Speaker 1: shy about pointing that out. And he's right, He's absolutely right.
Speaker 1: I see your point, Keith, and I appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Let me know it.
Speaker 4: Hey, thank you, Mike big fan, Okay, thank you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, And Keith, he makes a point.
Speaker 1: If Republicans hancho this thing, and it looks like, honestly
Speaker 1: from what I've read this week, that it is truly bipartisan.
Speaker 1: Probably about the only thing I don't know that I
Speaker 1: agree with US Republicans losing credibility on free speech if
Speaker 1: it's limited to kids under sixteen.
Speaker 2: It's just something that if you look.
Speaker 1: At it, and I don't have kids any I mean
Speaker 1: I have kids, but not young kids anymore. This is
Speaker 1: really this problem is at a crisis point where I
Speaker 1: think we're gonna lose a whole generation of kids if
Speaker 1: something isn't done about it. I mean, it's just you know,
Speaker 1: and I know every generation says, well, this generation coming
Speaker 1: up is nothing like us, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: I get that this is different. I mean, it just is.
Speaker 1: Kids are not socializing. They're not outside playing football, baseball,
Speaker 1: basketball with their buddies. You know, they're not going on
Speaker 1: bike hikes some locations. I didn't want to let my
Speaker 1: parents know where I went, but at least I was
Speaker 1: doing something outside. I don't know, I just I think
Speaker 1: it's a really big problem. We got a perfect setup
Speaker 1: with Australia. Let them do it. Maybe take a year
Speaker 1: or so and take a look at how it's working
Speaker 1: out for them. Hey, let's talk to Patty. Hey, good morning, Patty,
Speaker 1: Morning Mike.
Speaker 7: I haven't heard anyone touch on the subject of why
Speaker 7: aren't these parents taking control of these kids? When my
Speaker 7: mom said no or my dad said no, you didn't
Speaker 7: go against them. You did what they told you to do,
Speaker 7: and if you didn't there was a consequence. There's no
Speaker 7: consequences for these kids today.
Speaker 2: I got it.
Speaker 8: They do what.
Speaker 7: Girlever they want and there's no consequences because you might
Speaker 7: hurt their feelings.
Speaker 2: No, I got that. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: That wasn't the case in my house and wasn't the
Speaker 1: case in my neighborhood at all.
Speaker 2: But I do understand that. And the.
Speaker 1: Person that I quoted, I'm trying to find her here.
Speaker 1: You know, she had an eleven year old kid and
Speaker 1: the kid had her old iPhone. She took it away
Speaker 1: from him and gave him a flip phone. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: does have to start with the parents, and I get that,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. There are many that think, and obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever the legislator is in Australia thought that, hey,
Speaker 1: this is such a bad problem. Yes, parents, obviously we
Speaker 1: need your help, but we got to do something.
Speaker 2: I guess that's the thought. I don't know.
Speaker 7: Well, you know, this this all broke down, Mike when
Speaker 7: it came to the family unit breaking down.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 7: You know how many kids today have a mom and
Speaker 7: a dad that sit and have dinner every night. If
Speaker 7: I'm in a restaurant, now I'm a senior citizen. If
Speaker 7: I'm in a restaurant and a family sits down, the
Speaker 7: first thing you see is all four of them take
Speaker 7: out the cellphone. Ye I have no problem going to
Speaker 7: that table and say, listen, Before you know it, these
Speaker 7: kids are going to be out of your house and
Speaker 7: you don't even know what color their eyes are.
Speaker 2: That's a really good did you speak up though?
Speaker 8: Oh yes, I always do.
Speaker 1: What what?
Speaker 2: What's the response that you get from some of the parents.
Speaker 7: Some of them just look at me and smile, and
Speaker 7: some of them say thank you.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 7: And if there's a family in a restaurant where their
Speaker 7: children are well behaved, I always compliment them because I
Speaker 7: didn't go out to dinner to put up with your
Speaker 7: brat running around my table.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love Joe my mom, God rest
Speaker 1: her soul. She wouldn't have tolerated any of that crap.
Speaker 3: I mean, no way, no, I don't.
Speaker 7: I don't tolerate.
Speaker 6: I love children.
Speaker 7: I've got five grandsons. My youngest grandson is fourteen, and
Speaker 7: he is so smart on that cell phone, but he
Speaker 7: also has a life outside that cell phone. We have
Speaker 7: a date every Saturday night. We go out. That cell
Speaker 7: phone is put away.
Speaker 2: Good, good parents, not to do that.
Speaker 7: It's gonna start. It's gonna start the home and we
Speaker 7: got to quit putting all this crap on the government.
Speaker 7: Take responsibility for your children. You had them, they didn't
Speaker 7: ask to be born.
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. Thank you for the call, Patty.
Speaker 1: I'm bumping up against the news.
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, I hear what she's saying, But I
Speaker 2: don't know. I guess.
Speaker 1: I just think that the problem has become so acute
Speaker 1: that maybe it is appropriate for the government to step
Speaker 1: in and give parents a hand. I guess because the
Speaker 1: Emily Jackis was her name, the HR consultant that I
Speaker 1: was quoting. She makes the point that, man, these kids
Speaker 1: are tech savvy.
Speaker 2: They can get.
Speaker 1: Around all this stuff. So, you know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to wait and see. I just kind
Speaker 1: of wanted to open the discussion on this. I do
Speaker 1: want to watch closely how it works in Australia because
Speaker 1: I just think something's got to happen because we're losing
Speaker 1: a generation. Hey, we got to take a break. But
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Speaker 1: we've got. Increased investigatory action relative the unbelievably massive fraud,
Speaker 1: multi billion dollar fraud many think the Somali situation in Minnesota. Also,
Speaker 1: the Minneapolis City Council and their infinite wisdom acted this
Speaker 1: week to actually strengthen the ordinance to help illegal aliens
Speaker 1: at the expense of regular Americans. Here to talk about
Speaker 1: that as someone who's reporting on it, she's been on
Speaker 1: the ground there, I belie leave this week. Our friend
Speaker 1: from the Epoch Times, Janis Heiseel Janis, thanks so much
Speaker 1: for calling in.
Speaker 8: Well, thank you. Yeah, if you can call it the ground,
Speaker 8: it was the snow covered ground. It was pretty dark
Speaker 8: and snow and cold there. We think we haven't met
Speaker 8: here all Minnesota. Winner is not for.
Speaker 1: The faint of heart, really, But you're home now. Are
Speaker 1: you going back next week?
Speaker 8: Or actually probably not because there are some things I
Speaker 8: can do online, Like there's a medium I'm gonna watch online.
Speaker 8: But I was on the ground talking to people going
Speaker 8: to the council meeting. You just reference where they ended
Speaker 8: up passing UH a revised version of the ordnance that
Speaker 8: makes them a quote unquote sanctuary city, which the Trump
Speaker 8: administration has sued Minneapolis as well as the state of
Speaker 8: Minnesota over these sanctuary policies where they're protecting illegal immigrants
Speaker 8: from UH, the enforcement action they're not allowed. It's it's interesting,
Speaker 8: it's like a fine line. They're they're not allowed to
Speaker 8: imped the federal agents, but they're not cooperating with them either,
Speaker 8: So that's that's the fine line there.
Speaker 1: But there's nothing about impeding them or interfering in inter rest.
Speaker 2: They just kind of walk that up to the line.
Speaker 2: I guess, yeah.
Speaker 8: They do not they're not allowed because then, you know,
Speaker 8: Pam Bondi has threatened that they would be prosecuted.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know, and I saw too in the research
Speaker 1: they already had a twenty two year old ordinance that
Speaker 1: explicitly reflects the city's values, I guess, values of preferring
Speaker 1: illegals over regular Americans. But hey, that's my editorial comment,
Speaker 1: I suppose. But they've actually had something on the books
Speaker 1: for twenty two years. They must have been one of
Speaker 1: the first in the country.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Actually, a number of the people who spoke at the
Speaker 8: meeting that I covered on Tuesday use the term a
Speaker 8: progressive beacon to describe the city of Minneapolis. And I
Speaker 8: actually was talking to a number of people who were
Speaker 8: not at the meeting, including a senator state senator, and like,
Speaker 8: you know, every single person who spoke at this meeting,
Speaker 8: they were like I think thirty six people spoke at
Speaker 8: this meeting, all of them in favor of beating up
Speaker 8: this ordnance. And I said, just everybody in town supports this.
Speaker 8: Do you know if anybody's against me? Because if they
Speaker 8: are against it, they won't say so publicly. Because there
Speaker 8: is a culture there, according to him, of people who
Speaker 8: express an alternative viewpoint that isn't progressive are going to
Speaker 8: be docks, you know, threatened their family, threatened, their jobs,
Speaker 8: threatened or quote unquote worst as he.
Speaker 2: Says, nice, nice, Well that's typical the left.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they know everything, their position is right,
Speaker 1: never listen to anybody else.
Speaker 2: But it still haunts you off. Though they did.
Speaker 1: They also talk to about the mask issue of because
Speaker 1: I've read something that they thought that wearing masks which
Speaker 1: protect the police officer, the ICE our contrary to the
Speaker 1: quote values close quote of the city anything on that
Speaker 1: janus that you can recall, a.
Speaker 8: Number of people who spoke at the meeting did say
Speaker 8: they they didn't think it was right that the ICE
Speaker 8: ations were allowed to be masked. They said that the
Speaker 8: ICE agents should be arrested by the local police, which
Speaker 8: I think is kind of interesting because the last time
Speaker 8: I checked the US Constitution has a supremacy clause that
Speaker 8: outlines that the federal government outranks the states and or
Speaker 8: the city. So I thought that was kind of an
Speaker 8: interesting cake, especially because the number of the people who
Speaker 8: spoke at the meeting were wearing masks, ostensively COVID masks,
Speaker 8: like those health masks. But so they're saying it's o
Speaker 8: key for them to wear masks, but they don't think
Speaker 8: that the police should be able to wear masks. So
Speaker 8: that's that's literally the type of thing I was encountering.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I thought I read somewhere too that there
Speaker 1: were in urging people to where is I wrote it
Speaker 1: down going out in the streets and blowing whistles during
Speaker 1: these ice investigations and stops. Do you recall that being
Speaker 1: a part of this too, Janis?
Speaker 8: Oh, yes, One guy said that he doesn't leave his
Speaker 8: home without a whistle. The whistles are supposed to a
Speaker 8: I guess annoy the police that the alert other immigrants
Speaker 8: that ices in the area stay away.
Speaker 2: Gotcha.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really great, you know, really a help to
Speaker 1: law enforcement. I say that tongue in cheek puts them
Speaker 1: on a harm's way even more than they already are
Speaker 1: also you mentioned and you wrote an article about it,
Speaker 1: the increased investigatory action relative to the multi billion dollar
Speaker 1: according to some scam going on there with the Somalian community.
Speaker 2: What's the latest on that, Janus, Well.
Speaker 8: Just yesterday Scott des sent the Treasury Secretary issue the
Speaker 8: statement saying that they're about to announce some new regulations
Speaker 8: where the money transfers going from the United States to
Speaker 8: Somalia are going to have additional reporting requirements and that
Speaker 8: the I r S is involved. There are certain businesses,
Speaker 8: money transfer businesses who are going to be alerted that
Speaker 8: they are getting un notice that they're under investigation for
Speaker 8: transfers that may not be on the up and up.
Speaker 8: Now outlined, and it's a little hard to explain verbally,
Speaker 8: there's this money transfer system that is it dates back
Speaker 8: in years and years years. It's an informal way.
Speaker 2: To Yeah, what is that, Javis, As best as you
Speaker 2: can tell.
Speaker 8: Us, Well, the way it works is that say that
Speaker 8: I want to send money to another country, I contact
Speaker 8: this intermediary and he has a second intermediary in the
Speaker 8: country where I went to send money. I give the
Speaker 8: money to my guy and then he just contacts the
Speaker 8: other guy and goes, hey, I promise I'll settle up
Speaker 8: with you later if you give will you give money
Speaker 8: to the second person the person that I'm seeking to
Speaker 8: give the money to give the money to a person
Speaker 8: as long as they give a correct password, give them the money,
Speaker 8: and we'll settle up later between the two of us,
Speaker 8: so the money doesn't actually go overseas. The person who
Speaker 8: is in the foreign country provides money to the second
Speaker 8: person recip intended recipient as long as that person has
Speaker 8: a correct password. And apparently this has gone on for years,
Speaker 8: and there are legitimate uses for this. However, it is
Speaker 8: a way to avoid detection. Some people say there have
Speaker 8: been enhanced requirements for reporting any kind of money transfer
Speaker 8: businesses ever since the Patriot Act, which was passed right
Speaker 8: after nine to eleven to try to clamp down on
Speaker 8: terrorist networks because of the September eleventh terror attacks. So
Speaker 8: that's kind of in the nutshell.
Speaker 1: How it works, gotcha. Yeah, I'll tell you what. This
Speaker 1: thing just keeps getting bigger and bigger this week. And
Speaker 1: I know we just talked to you last week, but
Speaker 1: are you hearing anything more about the investigation that I
Speaker 1: guess specifically where they're at now. As far as the
Speaker 1: dollar amount, I know it was estimated one billion, possibly
Speaker 1: more than that. Because of the whistleblowers, I guess the question,
Speaker 1: what have you learned new this week that we didn't
Speaker 1: already know last week?
Speaker 8: Well, the whustle blowers actually have estimated that it could
Speaker 8: be up to eight billions.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 8: And the new additional information that I'm working on currently
Speaker 8: is that it's not just Somalians, though though it does
Speaker 8: seem that there are a high percentage of the cases
Speaker 8: are Somalian suspects. However, I found out that guess what,
Speaker 8: the second largest population of Somali's, the second only to Minnesota,
Speaker 8: is right here in Ohio.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 8: Really, we have the second highest number of Somalis. And
Speaker 8: there was there is an attorney whistle blower who has
Speaker 8: come forward saying that there is some significant fraud here.
Speaker 8: I haven't had a chance to interview that attorney yet.
Speaker 8: I just found out about this last night, and so
Speaker 8: I'm going to be looking into this. I'm going to
Speaker 8: be doing a story that talks about it's not just Minnesota,
Speaker 8: although it does appear to be that Minnesota is leading
Speaker 8: the way, so to speak. I've been speaking to lawmakers
Speaker 8: in Minnesota. I've talked for four or five.
Speaker 9: Of them now.
Speaker 8: One of them told me that they're trying to get
Speaker 8: some of the money recovered by like, for example, some
Speaker 8: of these people bought property in Kenya with these allegedly
Speaker 8: ill gotten games from the welfare fraud and even own
Speaker 8: a bakery here in Ohio. The taxpayers of Minnesota now
Speaker 8: own a bakery in Ohio as a result of fraud,
Speaker 8: according to this one legislator. So I haven't looked into
Speaker 8: that deeply yet. I literally just found out this information yesterday.
Speaker 8: So I literally have five six different stories I am
Speaker 8: trying to pull together. I mean, I could probably write
Speaker 8: stories for the rest of this year and probably next
Speaker 8: year about all of this, and especially because there are
Speaker 8: other states now involved but that we just haven't heard about,
Speaker 8: like Ohio. I don't know the extent of it here
Speaker 8: in Ohio, but apparently there is some. And given that
Speaker 8: it's the second largest population of Somalies. I mean, I
Speaker 8: have nothing against Themali. They don't know Somali people. In fact,
Speaker 8: I talked to a few in uh who actually spoke English.
Speaker 2: It was hard to.
Speaker 8: Find those who did, but they were, you know, they
Speaker 8: were nice to me, they spoke to me. But when
Speaker 8: you come from a country that is viewed as the
Speaker 8: world's second most corrupt, it does kind of affect what
Speaker 8: you think is acceptable. Perhaps, sure that that's the theory
Speaker 8: about what's driving this is they come from a country
Speaker 8: where corruption is kind of an everyday thing and and
Speaker 8: it's a struggle to get by and you do which
Speaker 8: can whatever.
Speaker 2: That might be, I get that, I do.
Speaker 1: If you heard anything more about what Tim Wallas is
Speaker 1: up to. I know he made some statements and it
Speaker 1: looks like people are lining up to run against him
Speaker 1: for governor. There was one Republican and from what I
Speaker 1: was hearing, it looks like he may have a primary
Speaker 1: challenge by a Democrat. What are you hearing if anything
Speaker 1: about that? Janus, I mean, that guy's got to be
Speaker 1: on the run somewhere.
Speaker 8: Yes, Well, yesterday he did hold a press conference where
Speaker 8: he revealed that there was going to be like an
Speaker 8: integrity zar, so to speak, who would oversee, you know,
Speaker 8: fraud investigations and kind of try to come up with
Speaker 8: different ways to prevent fraud. But from what I saw
Speaker 8: a lot of comments online from people saying, you know,
Speaker 8: where were you years ago? When the whistleblowers were trying
Speaker 8: to tell you about this. There was also as attorney
Speaker 8: was quoted, excuse me, it's saying that that the people
Speaker 8: would quote, the highest echelons of state government had turned
Speaker 8: a blind eye to what was going on for years.
Speaker 8: This stuff. This didn't pop up overnight. I did one
Speaker 8: story that indicated that I found concerns about this and
Speaker 8: investigations about some of this dating back like ten years.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, there have been what I think about seventy
Speaker 1: something indicted and either pled guilty or had been found
Speaker 1: guilty by a trial.
Speaker 2: Is that accurate? Correct?
Speaker 8: And so there's there's just so much going on. It's
Speaker 8: it's really hard to keep up with. There are multiple
Speaker 8: federal investigations, not just the Treasury and the I r S,
Speaker 8: but also doctor Oz's Medicaid Department for lack of a
Speaker 8: better term, and the Small Business Administration is part of
Speaker 8: this as well. And that's so there is it sounds
Speaker 8: like to me a full court press going on from
Speaker 8: the Trump administration and walls. The governor is pushing back
Speaker 8: against that. He's you know, saying that you know, it's
Speaker 8: because Trump is racist, that Trump is pushing this because
Speaker 8: he's racist and that that was his response yesterday during
Speaker 8: his news conference, which lasted for.
Speaker 2: Like an hour.
Speaker 1: Yeah, racism, charges of racism, the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Speaker 1: It figures that he would say something like that, I mean,
Speaker 1: are you hearing anything that potentially he's vulnerable? I mean
Speaker 1: you would think, I guess in any other state he
Speaker 1: would be. But who knows about Minnesota. Are you hearing
Speaker 1: anything on that?
Speaker 8: Well, the people who are saying yes are a Republican, right,
Speaker 8: so we you know they they have, you know, a
Speaker 8: a biased perspective for sure. However, you know, it does
Speaker 8: seem like that there is this simmering sense of people
Speaker 8: are not happy, you know that their taxes are going up. Yep,
Speaker 8: because it's not just the Somali fraud that's part of that.
Speaker 8: It's that they have a lot of unfunded mandates for
Speaker 8: social programs and they put all these requirements out there,
Speaker 8: and then the local governments have to increase property taxes
Speaker 8: and other types of taxes for the citizens. For example,
Speaker 8: while I was at the Minneapolis City council meeting, they
Speaker 8: came up with some new legislation where if a homeless
Speaker 8: encampment has more than twenty people they will be providing.
Speaker 8: The city will be required to put in Portajohns sanitation stations,
Speaker 8: get medical care for people, et cetera, et cetera. And
Speaker 8: where does that money come from?
Speaker 1: Yep, well, I think they think it grows on trees.
Speaker 1: But hey, we're out of time. Janis as always, really
Speaker 1: appreciates you filling us in, and we're lucky to have you.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're on the ground there.
Speaker 1: And you got the whole thing tied down, so I
Speaker 1: hope we can call on you again.
Speaker 8: Of course, I love talking to the local audiences. This
Speaker 8: is home for me.
Speaker 2: Okay, good, thank you.
Speaker 1: Janis all right, Janis Heisel Epoch Times man, she is
Speaker 1: all over it. I will remind you that she was
Speaker 1: singled out by none other than Newt Gingrids praising her
Speaker 1: reporting on this particular story. And I guess it doesn't
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Speaker 1: You're there to give them that service. Appreciate you coming
Speaker 1: up and letting us know, and good luck with everything.
Speaker 1: Thanks Mike, appreciate it, Thank you, thank you. Hey, we
Speaker 1: got to take a break, but we'll be back.
Speaker 2: Mike Allen. Saturday, midday.
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Speaker 1: From midday, we moved things around a little bit. I
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Speaker 1: what after listening to him and since he favorites, I'm hungry,
Speaker 1: you know. And like I said, I've used the service
Speaker 1: before and I'm going to use it again. I have
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Speaker 1: you know what, Cincinnati people, when they move away, they
Speaker 1: still want Cincinnati food.
Speaker 2: Great gift.
Speaker 1: I think you ought to check it out anyway, As promised,
Speaker 1: I'm going back to the phones here.
Speaker 2: Thank everybody for hanging on too.
Speaker 1: Again, we do have open lines from eleven o'clock to
Speaker 1: eleven thirty. At eleven thirty and talk to our friend
Speaker 1: Peter Bronson. He's got a new book out just in
Speaker 1: time for Christmas. I'm about three fourths of the way
Speaker 1: through it. It's really good. We'll talk to Peter at
Speaker 1: eleven thirty. Hey, let's talk to Louise in Marie Mont.
Speaker 1: She's been hanging on forever.
Speaker 2: Hey, thank you.
Speaker 11: I'm Mike.
Speaker 2: Hi, Louise. Thanks for having me Mike.
Speaker 11: That's a hard act to follow after that food for
Speaker 11: you guys. Way, I want to switch geared to Mike
Speaker 11: and address this unfortunate incident with this coach of the
Speaker 11: Michigan team.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 11: I want to start out by saying I am certainly
Speaker 11: non attorney, but the company for which I work for
Speaker 11: close to four decades provided me so much sexual harassment training.
Speaker 11: I feel it like I have a PhD in this tackey.
Speaker 11: So that's what I want to address. And if we
Speaker 11: look back, this whole sexual harassment started with Clarence Thomas
Speaker 11: and Anita Hill. Remember that that's when it started. That's
Speaker 11: when they started training us every year. The attorneys came
Speaker 11: from out of town. This that and the other, and
Speaker 11: then we get to proceed up to the Bill Clinton
Speaker 11: Monica Lewinsky. Well, all of a sudden, that didn't you know,
Speaker 11: sexual harassment never came up. And as you know as
Speaker 11: an attorney, Mike, sexual harassment is whenever it's a superior
Speaker 11: subordinate relationship. There's no distinction. Once that situation is there,
Speaker 11: it's considered harassment. Now, I have a great deal of
Speaker 11: pity for this coach and his family, and I've been
Speaker 11: really troubled by this and praying for this family that
Speaker 11: he could get this family back intact. I mean, his
Speaker 11: life has turned upside down. But let's look at the
Speaker 11: female in this situation, which they're now calling a victim.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, I don't know any of the facts.
Speaker 1: So if you could enlighten us on that.
Speaker 11: Okay, Well, it's a coach of the mission, she can team,
Speaker 11: very well respected coach and found out that there was
Speaker 11: a two year relationship with one of his subordinates. Now,
Speaker 11: this woman her salary increased between twenty and thirty thousand
Speaker 11: dollars since she began this affair. Now, being in the workplace, Mike,
Speaker 11: we all know these situations are toxic, they're unfair, they
Speaker 11: make everyone else suffer as this woman progresses up in
Speaker 11: the organization, makes more money than them. It's just a
Speaker 11: toxic situation. And I don't know. I just feel that
Speaker 11: the world has to be aware of these types of
Speaker 11: things and stop acting like the female is the victim.
Speaker 11: Don't forget this coach went to her house and threatened
Speaker 11: that he was going to take his life. Well, the
Speaker 11: first call she made was not to the nine to
Speaker 11: one one to try to save the man. Her first
Speaker 11: call is to her to her attorney. If the school
Speaker 11: is probabis. I can tell you, Mike, from my experience,
Speaker 11: the organizations never released the female in this situation. They
Speaker 11: then treat this keep that female there, treat her like
Speaker 11: a China doll. Everyone else in the organization suffers, and
Speaker 11: you know isn't treated the same way this person is.
Speaker 11: This is a really bad situation. So I think you
Speaker 11: need to study up. I thought, yeah, it was pretty recent.
Speaker 11: It just happened with the past couple of days.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and there was some uh, some undercurrent of
Speaker 1: something gonna happen.
Speaker 2: It did happen.
Speaker 1: I am gonna bone up on it, Luise, but I
Speaker 1: really appreciate you bringing us up to date.
Speaker 11: Right, Okay, Mike, have a good Christmas. If I don't
Speaker 11: get to call in.
Speaker 1: Before that, you too, please try to call though. I
Speaker 1: love her, She's a great caller. Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know the facts of that situation. Again, I'm not
Speaker 1: without sympathy for the coach. Uh. I had thought, just
Speaker 1: listening to it that perhaps it was a situation where
Speaker 1: maybe she was a minor or an intern or something.
Speaker 2: But we'll have to see what comes out.
Speaker 1: You know, a college, especially like Michigan, they're not gonna
Speaker 1: want to, you know, put up with something like that,
Speaker 1: so they'll pull the trigger, I suppose, and they did
Speaker 1: pretty early on him. But I have sympathy for everyone
Speaker 1: involved in that situation. Hey, we can get a quick
Speaker 1: one here. How's about r J? Hey, RJ? You got
Speaker 1: two minutes, buddy?
Speaker 2: How you doing good? Are you good?
Speaker 3: Call? Call you about the Abrego Garcia case. I think
Speaker 3: you've heard all that. Yes, he was released from the
Speaker 3: tension I saw, and the media seems to be treating
Speaker 3: him like he's a free to hostage.
Speaker 2: Oh of course.
Speaker 3: Interesting. Uh, And I'm just wondering what's the status of
Speaker 3: his of his situation, because I thought he was in
Speaker 3: the process.
Speaker 4: Of being prosecuted.
Speaker 3: By uh, you know, the federal of the Feds. And
Speaker 3: I just wonder that's still on, isn't it. I mean,
Speaker 3: he's he's freed temporarily, he's still uh the you know,
Speaker 3: he's still possibly going to get you know, tried and
Speaker 3: for this, for this smuggling issue.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And that's my understanding too.
Speaker 1: I just I heard it break yesterday, obviously remembered the name. Uh.
Speaker 1: But the prosecution is not going to go away. I
Speaker 1: guess he might who knows what he'll do, but that
Speaker 1: prosecution is not going to go away at least. I
Speaker 1: think it would be highly unlikely that the US attorney
Speaker 1: would dismiss it.
Speaker 3: I think, I think what happens in these cases is
Speaker 3: it is the hope is that it takes a long
Speaker 3: time for him to get to to trial, right, and
Speaker 3: the case and a new you know, maybe a new
Speaker 3: administration comes into comes into office after the president is
Speaker 3: is the longer there isn't it? And and and the
Speaker 3: uh maybe the Democrats win. I hope that doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: Please decide to drop the case. Yep.
Speaker 3: I think that's the hope.
Speaker 1: It's I don't think it could be you know what,
Speaker 1: there are too many uh, grants of pardons clemency on
Speaker 1: both sides of the isle, I think, And you're right,
Speaker 1: a different administration would probably see it differently, but we're
Speaker 1: just gonna have to wait and see. Uh.
Speaker 3: But that's that's the case of all these and all
Speaker 3: these all these situations really right, And that's my concern.
Speaker 3: Is a waste the time it takes is something they
Speaker 3: rely on, I get it to avoid uh, you know,
Speaker 3: having to take responsibility for these situations.
Speaker 2: I get it. Hey, unfortunate around of time, r J.
Speaker 1: But thanks, thanks for the call, Thanks for the subject too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to bone up on that and see
Speaker 1: what the deal is. Hey, we got to take a
Speaker 1: break for the news button.
Speaker 2: We get back. I'm going right back to the calls.
Speaker 1: Mike Allen, seven hundred wl News Radio seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: Mike Gallon Saturday Midday closing moments of saying, well, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what. Cincinnati's favorite author one Peter Bronson. He's
Speaker 1: out with a new book just in time for Christmas.
Speaker 1: His new book is entitled Magical Mystery Tour, Murder, Mystery
Speaker 1: and Buried History. It's a collection of five short stories.
Speaker 1: And also there's a section in back I think about
Speaker 1: ten different historical places that Peter has found out about
Speaker 1: that would be good places to visit. I'm definitely going
Speaker 1: to take him up on it. Peter, thanks for coming.
Speaker 10: In my pleasure. Mike always good to be with you
Speaker 10: appreciate it. Hey, just kind of give us an I
Speaker 10: outlined it a little bit. But is what the book's about? Okay,
Speaker 10: well this time. In my previous books, I've done longer
Speaker 10: form stories about the Cincinnati during the Civil War, or
Speaker 10: the mob in northern Kentucky, or the first settlers in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: But you know what my favorite Peter Ronson book is
Speaker 2: I think probably behind the lines the three Yeah I'm
Speaker 2: one riots. I shouldn't get going on it. But is
Speaker 2: it still for sale? Oh? It is, Yes, you can
Speaker 2: get that on my website.
Speaker 1: The only, the only, fair and accurate account of those riots.
Speaker 1: And it's aftermath.
Speaker 10: Oh, thank you so much, you know, and it's it's
Speaker 10: timely now with the city of Cincinnati paying people.
Speaker 1: To riot, yeah, to the tune of about eight million bucks. Unbelievable,
Speaker 1: only in the city of Cincinnati, only Cincinnati.
Speaker 10: But anyway, back to the book, so this one, I'm
Speaker 10: doing a different approach. I'm doing five short stories. They're
Speaker 10: all in the same kind of wheelhouse that I like,
Speaker 10: which is very local Cincinnati, southern Southwest Ohio, stories about
Speaker 10: our history. Things that that kind of are in the
Speaker 10: category of when you read that, you go, who knew?
Speaker 10: I know, who knew? I know that we had a
Speaker 10: grave robbery in eighteen seventy eight when the son of
Speaker 10: a president was taken from his grave, you know, night
Speaker 10: he was buried.
Speaker 2: I like local history, try to keep up on I
Speaker 2: had no idea. I mean that great. Can you kind of.
Speaker 1: Give the listeners just that story in particular, just a
Speaker 1: little bit about what it's about.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 10: So William Henry Harrison, our ninth president, had a son,
Speaker 10: John Scott Harrison, who was unique in American history because
Speaker 10: not only was he the son of a president, he
Speaker 10: was the father of a president, Benjamin Harrison.
Speaker 2: And he was a congressman.
Speaker 10: Yes, yeah, yeah, So John Scott Harrison in his older years,
Speaker 10: he was very respected, beloved. Grandfatherly died suddenly in his sleep.
Speaker 10: The family goes to Congress Green Cemetery, which, by the way,
Speaker 10: is right across the road from the William Henry Harrison Monument.
Speaker 10: And it's one of those places on my history tours
Speaker 10: that's all that that it's a great place. It's just
Speaker 10: really John Cleve Simms of the Sims Purchase is also
Speaker 10: buried there. Okay, so back to the story, John Scott
Speaker 10: Harrison is buried, His family mourns him, does a service
Speaker 10: by the grave side, and the next day they come
Speaker 10: back very next day for another funeral of another young
Speaker 10: man that they knew that was close to their family,
Speaker 10: and they look at their father's grave and it's been opened,
Speaker 10: it's been torn apart, and the body is gone. How
Speaker 10: outrageous would that be? Absolutely? I mean, here is a
Speaker 10: son of a president. But in those days it was
Speaker 10: not uncommon for these guys. They were called body snatchers.
Speaker 10: They were called grave robbers, one of my favorite terms.
Speaker 10: They called them resurrection men. And they would come and
Speaker 10: steal a body and they would strip the clothes and
Speaker 10: jewelry off and take away the gold, teeth, whatever they
Speaker 10: could harvest from his body and sell the clothes. So
Speaker 10: if you're looking for a bargain, beware of bargain. Hopefully
Speaker 10: they wash them. Well, I don't think so. Yeah, I
Speaker 10: think they probably reaped.
Speaker 1: But these people that are stealing the bodies, correct me
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. They were students the predecessor, I guess
Speaker 1: of you see medical school.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, so these guys were.
Speaker 10: It was a regular profession to be a grave robber
Speaker 10: and their main client, of their only client in most cases,
Speaker 10: was the Ohio Medical College. But the ring that was
Speaker 10: stealing bodies in Cincinnati had such a reach. They were
Speaker 10: stealing bodies all over central Ohio and servicing Columbus Cleveland
Speaker 10: all the way to ann Arbor, and that's where they
Speaker 10: found one of the bodies that was taken from Congress
Speaker 10: Green Cemetery in ann Arbor.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was unbelievable.
Speaker 10: And these guys would sell these bodies to the medical
Speaker 10: students because in those days, nobody donated their body to science,
Speaker 10: so they needed fresh corpses to practice on. Practicing on
Speaker 10: people that were under anesthesia was frowned.
Speaker 2: Upon, but they did it nonetheless.
Speaker 10: I mean there were just the ethics and the morals
Speaker 10: of the medical profession in those days is appalling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had no idea. I had no idea that
Speaker 1: it was going on locally here.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, tell us, I know how but tell the
Speaker 2: listeners how that ended up.
Speaker 10: Well, John Scott, Harrison's son took on the responsibility of
Speaker 10: finding the body snatchers who took his father. He hired
Speaker 10: the Pinkertons from Chicago to come assist and detectives from
Speaker 10: Cincinnati police, and they found a report that was in
Speaker 10: the Inquirer, one of those little gospy items, that said
Speaker 10: that a strange, long sheet wrapped body shaped object was
Speaker 10: unloaded in front of the Medical College in the wee
Speaker 10: hours of the morning. And so they went to the
Speaker 10: Medical College. They searched all of the floors. When they
Speaker 10: got to the top floor, they find a pit that
Speaker 10: is a shaft that goes all the way down to
Speaker 10: the first floor, five floors, and there's a rope in
Speaker 10: a winch. Yes, yeah, And they start turning the winch.
Speaker 10: It up comes the son of the president. He is
Speaker 10: completely stripped of his clothing. He's been cut open so
Speaker 10: that the body could drain. It just horrified. Yeah, And
Speaker 10: at first they didn't know if this body was their father.
Speaker 10: And then they took it off the rope and laid
Speaker 10: it down and the son.
Speaker 2: Just lost it.
Speaker 10: There's his father, yep, And he was about to be
Speaker 10: dissected and yeah, cut into parts.
Speaker 2: They would. It's just a horrifying nobody.
Speaker 1: And like I said, I follow a local history to
Speaker 1: the extent I can't. I don't think anybody knew about
Speaker 1: that at all, you know, until you've started to write
Speaker 1: about it. Also, probably my favorite and there the Black
Speaker 1: Widow serial killer. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I actually recognized some names in there. Oh did you good? Yeah?
Speaker 2: One of them Walter Hart.
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, Walter famous case Harness detective.
Speaker 1: Heart Pharmacy is and has been forever at the corner
Speaker 1: of Glen Way and Cleeswarsaw, that right, independent Pharmacy. I'n't
Speaker 1: been in there in years, but when I did go
Speaker 1: in there, they had a bust of Walter Hart. I
Speaker 1: don't know what his obviously the Heart family, but exactly
Speaker 1: what the relationship was. And then when I was in
Speaker 1: the police academy, they told us about he was killed
Speaker 1: in the line of dude.
Speaker 2: Yes, what a sad story. I know he was. He
Speaker 2: had been working with Detective Tom Ferrager. He must have
Speaker 2: been something.
Speaker 10: Oh he still holds the record for the most cases
Speaker 10: cleared and solved murder cases. And those two probably saw
Speaker 10: stuff that we just would never want to see and
Speaker 10: would never recover from. Heart finally had enough and took
Speaker 10: a desk job, and unfortunately he stopped at a bar
Speaker 10: on his way home from work one night after he'd
Speaker 10: taken this desk job to get out of the line
Speaker 10: of this this holorifying stuff, and arm robbers came in
Speaker 10: and herded all the clients, the customers into a restroom. Well,
Speaker 10: Heart was carrying a weapon concealed and he came out
Speaker 10: of the restroom and started shooting, and that's how they
Speaker 10: killed him. Yeah, I mean that what a crazy courageous
Speaker 10: thing to do, you know, as a cop, I know.
Speaker 1: But but there's a little West Side connection there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also out called Dudley Alcohol. Yes, that's a name that
Speaker 1: is pretty prominent in Cincinnati judicial circles. And of course
Speaker 1: he was the prosecutor and he was a judge. Yes,
Speaker 1: Pete out Cault was a long time magistrate here. And
Speaker 1: the reason I mentioned it is out in Sharonville on
Speaker 1: Mostella Road is the Reserve Center. Oh yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: was in the National Guard, right, that's well in Army
Speaker 1: two Army was in the one thirty fifth jag Detach
Speaker 1: named after out call yep and they got.
Speaker 2: A big plaque to him and everything. So that was
Speaker 2: kind of cool to do well.
Speaker 10: And you know, that was one of those little things
Speaker 10: that is so fun about researching history. Because I was
Speaker 10: doing this thing about the serial killer and big Tom
Speaker 10: Feriger and I look in and I'm thinking that prosecutor,
Speaker 10: let's take a look at him. So I started digging
Speaker 10: into and I find out this guy Dudley Outcault.
Speaker 1: He was.
Speaker 10: He flew in World War One with Eddie Rickenbacker's hat
Speaker 10: and the ring squadron, which had the most celebrated aces
Speaker 10: in the entire war. He came home, he served in
Speaker 10: Rickenbacker's pit crew at the Indy five hundred and even
Speaker 10: drove some laps at the end.
Speaker 2: This is our county prosecutor. Unbelievable.
Speaker 10: And he was such a cool guy.
Speaker 2: And how he.
Speaker 10: Died, Oh, and how he died so sad. He was
Speaker 10: a great pilot. He went back in World War Two
Speaker 10: enlisted again. He had to overcome a health problem. In
Speaker 10: the day that he was cleared healthwise, he signed up
Speaker 10: to become part of the Army Air Corps and he
Speaker 10: was ferrying B twenty four I think, and he was
Speaker 10: right near Washington, d C. Almost to the airport when
Speaker 10: the whole thing exploded and he was never found. He
Speaker 10: just was vaporized.
Speaker 1: And they don't explain that in the thing that I
Speaker 1: haven't been at the reserve center in years. They didn't
Speaker 1: explain how he passed away. I told Peter alcohol and
Speaker 1: I maybe he's a grandson, great grant. He's retired now
Speaker 1: and he kind of the family knew about it. I
Speaker 1: knew about the plaque and everything like that. But it's
Speaker 1: just kind of fun when you're reading something like your
Speaker 1: history books and you see something that, hey, I.
Speaker 2: Know where that is. Yeah, yeah, but can.
Speaker 1: We I'm gonna make sure I give you enough time, dude,
Speaker 1: say where we can get your book? Wanted to ask
Speaker 1: you if you could finish the story about ms Hahn and.
Speaker 2: What oh that was interesting.
Speaker 10: So she was the first serial killer, although they didn't
Speaker 10: call them serial killers back then, just a sensational murder
Speaker 10: in the late thirties, yes, thirty eight, thirty seven, thirty eight.
Speaker 2: She was.
Speaker 10: She probably killed more than fourteen sixteen people. And so
Speaker 10: she would cozy up to these elderly, lonely German immigrants
Speaker 10: men almost exclusively, and pretty soon they tell their friends
Speaker 10: they had a new girlfriend and they were so excited
Speaker 10: they turned over their house and their savings and the
Speaker 10: next thing you know, she comes over and cooks for them,
Speaker 10: and what do you know, they died. Well, it might
Speaker 10: have been the arsenic that she put in exactly, she
Speaker 10: was poisoning. And that's a horrible, horrible death. It's just wow.
Speaker 10: I couldn't believe it. And so she was finally caught
Speaker 10: and it was done with probably one of the very
Speaker 10: first cases of forensic medical science. And the Cincinnati Police
Speaker 10: had one of the first in the country, that's right,
Speaker 10: collaborations with the UC Medical School and their Department of Forensics,
Speaker 10: and they teamed up to solve this case. And it's
Speaker 10: really stunning how it's like CSI. Way before CSI yep,
Speaker 10: nineteen thirty eight.
Speaker 1: There were four I think victims that were tried in
Speaker 1: Amum County and he was she was convicted of all.
Speaker 2: Of them, I believe, uh huh. And she died in
Speaker 2: the electric chair. She did.
Speaker 10: She was the first woman to be put to death
Speaker 10: in the electric chair in a while.
Speaker 1: And just it's a fascinating story. It is just the
Speaker 1: I don't know looking for the right word here, that
Speaker 1: the lack of empathy, her heartless victims.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're right. They were all old men.
Speaker 10: All lonely, sad old men who missed Germany. And one
Speaker 10: of her tricks was to come and knock on their
Speaker 10: door and say she was a long lost niece, right,
Speaker 10: who had discovered they had some kind of inheritance coming
Speaker 10: from the family in Germany, and she was here to
Speaker 10: help them get it.
Speaker 2: And so she Oh, she was just what a piece
Speaker 2: of work.
Speaker 1: I know, Wow, your favorite story out of all of them,
Speaker 1: if you cared.
Speaker 10: To weigh in on that, you know, I kind of
Speaker 10: really liked doing westerns. Yeah, I always loved westerns, and
Speaker 10: I really liked the story of James W.
Speaker 2: Denver, a Civil War general named after it.
Speaker 10: The city of Denver, Colorado, is named after a man
Speaker 10: from our own community who grew up in Wilmington, Ohio,
Speaker 10: who knew and he led a wagon train on the
Speaker 10: Oregon Trail, which would be incredibly courageous in those days,
Speaker 10: and he went out for the gold Rush.
Speaker 2: He fought a duel.
Speaker 10: In this duel, he killed a newspaper editor that come
Speaker 10: a little close to home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but this editor, this.
Speaker 10: Editor had a chance first shot missed and Denver fired
Speaker 10: in the air to let him have a second chance
Speaker 10: at life.
Speaker 2: And he said, no, I insist we continue this duel. Wow.
Speaker 10: And Denver said, okay, if that's why you want it.
Speaker 10: And Denver was a crack shot.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I mean, that's not the guy
Speaker 1: you'd want to be coming up against it.
Speaker 10: No, No, his picture is just it's compelling when you
Speaker 10: look at that picture of him, just a guy you
Speaker 10: would not want a trifle.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 10: And he also became the governor of the Kansas Territory
Speaker 10: during Bleeding Kansas, right, which, if you know your history,
Speaker 10: was the dress rehearsal for the Civil War, and he
Speaker 10: encountered all kinds of brutal massacres and raids. And one
Speaker 10: of the worst of the brutal psychopaths in Kansas at
Speaker 10: that time was John Oh Boy. John Brown, who is
Speaker 10: elevated as a hero in the abolitionist community, was a
Speaker 10: psychopathic murderer. He killed dozens of people, and he did
Speaker 10: it just in horrible ways and all in the name
Speaker 10: of God.
Speaker 2: At the time.
Speaker 10: For him, he was a diluted nuts yep, cold blooded
Speaker 10: psycho you know what.
Speaker 1: And it's just so much good history in here. Two
Speaker 1: final questions, got a couple of minutes left. What's next
Speaker 1: if you know or care to let us know? And second,
Speaker 1: how does someone.
Speaker 2: Get the book? Well, I'll answer the second one. First.
Speaker 10: I'm gonna actually I'm doing a signing today at Joseph
Speaker 10: Beth Booksellers in Rookwood, and I'm going to be there
Speaker 10: from one to three, so come on by and I
Speaker 10: can personalize your book if you want to give one
Speaker 10: to somebody for Christmas, and all of my books will
Speaker 10: be there, so there's that. I'll be there from one
Speaker 10: to three at Joseph Beth Booksellers. And then also if
Speaker 10: you want signed copies, go to my website which is
Speaker 10: Chili Dog Press, and there's still plenty of time to
Speaker 10: mail those out before Christmas.
Speaker 2: Right also available at all the other.
Speaker 10: Bookstores such as Barnes and Noble and so forth, and
Speaker 10: on Amazon.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 10: I encourage people to support the local bookstores. I like
Speaker 10: to see that. I also like to see sales come
Speaker 10: to my website because I can stay in touch and
Speaker 10: let people know right away when they have a new
Speaker 10: book coming out, and they seem to like that. And
Speaker 10: as I was telling you before we started a lot
Speaker 10: of people that are my customers on the website are
Speaker 10: mailing these books out of state to Cincinnatians who miss
Speaker 10: Cincinnati and love reading about our history.
Speaker 1: Well, and you keep them coming too. Got about thirty seconds?
Speaker 1: Do you care to say what you're working on now
Speaker 1: or well?
Speaker 10: One of the things I've found is when I do
Speaker 10: these books, I learned so much. When I go out
Speaker 10: and do speaking, so I'm available, I'll be doing a
Speaker 10: lot of this all winner for all kinds of groups,
Speaker 10: service clubs, women's clubs, book clubs, whoever gathers. I go
Speaker 10: out and do a presentation on my series of books,
Speaker 10: and I learned the most amazing stories. Raise a hand
Speaker 10: in the back and say did you know? And I'll
Speaker 10: be who knew? That's a fantastic story. Yeah, So I
Speaker 10: jump in and I write that down, and so I may.
Speaker 10: I kind of like this short story thing, right, gives
Speaker 10: me a chance to tackle a lot of topics. And
Speaker 10: I think people like reading short stories because they can kind.
Speaker 2: Of dive then and jump out.
Speaker 1: Every one of your books is an easy read. Magical
Speaker 1: history tour. I think I referred to it as magical
Speaker 1: mystery tour.
Speaker 2: A lot of people do that. I think that was
Speaker 2: the Beatles.
Speaker 10: I hear the Beatles Magical Mystery Tour song every time
Speaker 10: I say it.
Speaker 1: Great book, easy read, be a great Christmas gift. Really
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming in my pleasure, Mike. It's always good
Speaker 1: to be with you. I love the work you're doing here.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate it. Hey, listen, we're out of time,
Speaker 1: which means I'm out of here. Be back next Saturday
Speaker 1: for Saturday Midday. Mike Allen seven hundred WLW.
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