WEBVTT - Mike Allen Saturday Mid-Day -- 12/13/25

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday midday on what's going to be a very very

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<v Speaker 1>nasty day. Cold weather advisory and effect from seven o'clock

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<v Speaker 1>tonight to eleven o'clock tomorrow morning. Snow expected, some times

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<v Speaker 1>heavy total accumulation between four and six inches. Did I

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<v Speaker 1>tell you I hate this weather?

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<v Speaker 2>Hate it? Anyway?

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<v Speaker 1>This week you probably saw it. Australia, we'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what took some guts. They banned social media for kids

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen and under. They become the first country to do

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<v Speaker 1>that and tell you, I don't know about you. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope we follow that pretty soon, but at any rate,

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<v Speaker 1>Australia has implemented a world first law that effectively bans

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<v Speaker 1>children under sixteen from social media. It places the responsibility

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<v Speaker 1>for enforcement on the social media companies. That's where be,

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<v Speaker 1>not the children or their parents. Just some details of

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<v Speaker 1>the band. The affected platforms the ones you'd expect, Facebook, Instagram, threads, Snapchat,

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok x, YouTube, Reddit, Twitch, and kick Now. There are

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<v Speaker 1>some platforms that are exempt WhatsApp, discord, roboox. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about any of these, Pinterest, YouTube kits and Google

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<v Speaker 1>classroom they're exempt. Okay, enforcement and penalties social media companies

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<v Speaker 1>must take reasonable steps to prevent underage users from creating

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<v Speaker 1>or accessing accounts. Failure to do so could result in

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<v Speaker 1>fines of up to thirty three million bucks American for

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<v Speaker 1>serious or repeated breaches. They want to age verification on

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<v Speaker 1>these platforms before you can even get on. And again

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<v Speaker 1>no penalties for the teens or the parents. And the goal,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the Australian government, they introduce this band to

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<v Speaker 1>protect young people from the negative impacts of social media

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<v Speaker 1>such as harmful content, misogynistic material, content promoting eating disorders

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<v Speaker 1>or suicide. And boy, we're gonna talk about this a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit later, cyberbullying, huge, addictive decision, addictive design features.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Nation of Australia putting the foot down on

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<v Speaker 1>social media. So you know, I tell you what I say.

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations to Austria for doing that and having the guts

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. And from everything that I've read about

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<v Speaker 1>this week, there was a massive push from lobbyists and

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<v Speaker 1>others not to do this. There will be litigation, I'm certain,

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<v Speaker 1>but at least it's the first step. The social media

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<v Speaker 1>companies again from what I've read, they poured millions of

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<v Speaker 1>bucks into lobbying and everything else. To try to stop

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<v Speaker 1>this from happening, but it did. You know, I've said

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<v Speaker 1>this before, or make no mistake, I would not want

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<v Speaker 1>to be a teenager growing up in this environment today.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wouldn't. And you know you can say, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're an old fuddy dady blah blah blah, but I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel sorry for these kids today, and I

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<v Speaker 1>also would not want to be a parent raising teenagers

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<v Speaker 1>in this environment. Let me ask you a question, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've asked this before, when was the last time you

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<v Speaker 1>drove by an athletic field or you know, even like

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<v Speaker 1>a vacant lot and saw kids playing baseball, football, basketball, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mean, you know, formal team sports. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>just a group of boys or girls doing that. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't tell you the last time I've seen that, And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not kidding you. You just don't see it at

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<v Speaker 1>all anymore because they're all indoors, you know, doing the

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<v Speaker 1>scrolling things on their phone. You know, I tell you

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<v Speaker 1>those kind of things that I talked about before, scrub

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<v Speaker 1>football games, baseball games at nighttime, kick the can. We

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<v Speaker 1>did that every day when the weather was permitting in

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<v Speaker 1>the summer, fall and even the winter. And again, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want people saying, well, you know, he's just

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<v Speaker 1>an old fuddy duddy, always talking about how it was

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<v Speaker 1>when he grew up.

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<v Speaker 2>But boy, I tell you what it was different.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>The biggest worry that we had was breaking a window

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<v Speaker 1>at the Hay Memorial Stadium on Lucina Drive, where we

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<v Speaker 1>paid played. And if you busted a window, that was

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal. But you know what, it would almost

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<v Speaker 1>be worth it now just to see that there are

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<v Speaker 1>some kids out there doing what kids are supposed to do,

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<v Speaker 1>playing games, working, shoveling snow, cutting grass, and not thumbing

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<v Speaker 1>through your cell phone. You know, you never see that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff anymore. You just don't. Kids just don't do that anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'd shoveling snow. I'll tell you what. As

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<v Speaker 1>early as we possibly could. When I'm getting yelled at

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<v Speaker 1>by people, we were out there making good money, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean really good money shoveling snow. I can tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>In all the places I've lived, I've never had a

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<v Speaker 1>kid bang on my door and say, hey, mister, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>can I shovel your snow?

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<v Speaker 2>It just doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Another example too of kids not socializing anymore. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>dating ritual. At least when I was coming up, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a ritual. You had to first of all fight

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<v Speaker 1>your brothers and sisters for the phone. But before that

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<v Speaker 1>you had to screw up the courage to call the

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<v Speaker 1>girl to ask her out, then pick her up the

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<v Speaker 1>door and meet the parents. Apparently that doesn't happen anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, people just show up at a mall or

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<v Speaker 1>a restaurant or whatever. I mean, this is really serious stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>it is, according to AI, and I think AI hit

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<v Speaker 1>the name on the head with this one. Research and

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<v Speaker 1>official health advisors indicate that social media presents a meaningful

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<v Speaker 1>risk of harm to youth, contributing to a national youth

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<v Speaker 1>mental health crisis. Studies show a strong correlation between excessive

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<v Speaker 1>social media use and increased rates of depression, anxiety, poor

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<v Speaker 1>body image, sleep deprivation, and children and adolescents as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's just some of the key concerns that had been

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<v Speaker 1>outlined with this use of social media by kids, mental

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<v Speaker 1>health issues. That's got to be the biggest one. Studies

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<v Speaker 1>indicate that teams who spend more than three hours a

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<v Speaker 1>day on social media double their risk of experiencing negative

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<v Speaker 1>mental health outcomes. The constant viewing of curated highlight reels

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<v Speaker 1>of others' lives can lead to feelings of inadequacy, low

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<v Speaker 1>self esteem, social comparison, often exacerbating existing mental health struggles.

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<v Speaker 1>Brain development basically says that you're on this social media

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<v Speaker 1>all day, your brain's not going to get developed as

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<v Speaker 1>it should, and I think that kind of speaks for itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Sleep deprivation.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess there's a lot of kids laying up in

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<v Speaker 1>bed when they're supposed to be asleep, playing around on

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<v Speaker 1>their phones, which of course results in sleep deprivation. This

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<v Speaker 1>one is a big one, and I've had this in

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<v Speaker 1>my law practice a number of times. Cyber bowling and

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<v Speaker 1>inappropriate content social media platforms can be then used for

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<v Speaker 1>cyber bullying and online harassment, which, unlike traditional bowling bullying,

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<v Speaker 1>can be constant. Additionally, algorithms may feed children harmful content,

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<v Speaker 1>such as that promoting self harm, eating disorders, or risky challenges.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen examples of that just over the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of months. Social skills development, time spent on screens can

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<v Speaker 1>replace face to face interactions, hindering the development of crucial

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<v Speaker 1>in person social skills like reading, nonverbal cues and empathy.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't really get much worse than that, does it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the case is stated pretty well, and social

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<v Speaker 1>media is also affecting these teenagers'.

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<v Speaker 2>Ability to work.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lady, her name is Emily Jackis Jaksh. She's

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<v Speaker 1>an author and she's an HR consultant. She writes extensively

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<v Speaker 1>on this issue, and she's also the.

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<v Speaker 2>Mother of an eleven year old boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what she writes, pretty basic and to the point,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to quote her here.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's be blunt.

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<v Speaker 1>Social media is destroying our young people. Close quote. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you hard to argue with that. Pretty strong, but

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<v Speaker 1>hard to argue with it. She goes on to say,

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<v Speaker 1>we've handed had smartphones and unfettered internet access, and in return,

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<v Speaker 1>we're watching their mental health crumble, anxiety, depression, addiction to scrolling,

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<v Speaker 1>a complete lack of resilience. It goes on quite a bit,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. She talks about her eleven year old son.

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<v Speaker 1>She says, last year, my then eleven year old son

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<v Speaker 1>was like every other kid. He had to have one

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<v Speaker 1>of my old iPhones, and I thought I could handle.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a handle on what he was up to,

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<v Speaker 2>she says, but boy, I was wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>He was begging me for TikTok Snapchat because all of

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<v Speaker 1>his friends had it. I said no, I'd already made

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<v Speaker 1>the decision that he wouldn't have access to social media

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<v Speaker 1>like in Australia until he was at least sixteen. She

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<v Speaker 1>makes this point, She's right, kids are more tech savty

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<v Speaker 1>than savvy than we give them credit. For. Her son,

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<v Speaker 1>she says, set up a TikTok account behind her back

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<v Speaker 1>and when she found that, she was horrified. Says that

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<v Speaker 1>that was her wake up call. Now. Ms Jacks suggests

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<v Speaker 1>four things that we need to do, in her words,

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<v Speaker 1>to fix this mess. Number one, no smartphones before high school.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to disagree with that. No social media until

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<v Speaker 1>age sixteen. Again, that's what Australia's doing. We need to

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<v Speaker 1>and this is kind of a movement that I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>some action on.

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<v Speaker 2>Phone free schools.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how teachers put up with it, the

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<v Speaker 1>constant interruptions, but you don't need these things in school.

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<v Speaker 1>And her last point is interesting and I think accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>She says, give kids more independence in the real world.

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<v Speaker 1>Let them walk to school, ride their bikes, make mistakes,

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<v Speaker 1>solve problems, talk to people, let them actually be kids again.

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<v Speaker 1>Good advice, I'm certain. Okay, Fortunately, you're not gonna believe this.

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<v Speaker 1>There is some bipartisan action in Congress to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>this issue. And you might have just heard me say

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<v Speaker 1>bipartisan action, which we never see anymore. This issue is

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor made for bipartisan action on this. There's no liberal

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<v Speaker 1>way of looking at this, no conservative way. The only

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<v Speaker 1>way to look at it is is the damage and

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<v Speaker 1>in my humble opinion, the real damage that this is

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<v Speaker 1>doing the kids. Okay, here's a couple things cooking in Congress.

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<v Speaker 1>The Kids Online Safety Act KOSA. This bill, sponsored by

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<v Speaker 1>Senator Richard Blumenthal, a Democrat from Connecticut, and Marshall Blackburn,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, Republican from Tennessee, has strong bipartisan support, with

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<v Speaker 1>over half the Senate backing it.

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<v Speaker 2>COSA.

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<v Speaker 1>KOSA focuses on providing miners and parents with safeguards such

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<v Speaker 1>as option to disable addictive features and opt out of

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<v Speaker 1>personalized algorithmic recommendations.

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<v Speaker 2>Say that five times fis.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know obviously that could help, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think a total ban like Australia is what we need.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, there's another one, bipartisan.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called the Kids Off Social Media Act COSMA, that

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<v Speaker 1>was introduced by Senator Brian Schultz, Democrat of Hawaii and

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<v Speaker 1>our own Ted Cruz. This by bartisan bill was reintroduced

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<v Speaker 1>May twenty twenty four, ordered reported out by the Senate

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<v Speaker 1>Committee Commerce Committee in June of nineteen twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes a.

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<v Speaker 1>More direct approach by prohibiting children under thirteen from creating

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<v Speaker 1>or maintaining social media accounts. I like that beginning algorithmic

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<v Speaker 1>recommendation systems for users under seventeen, requiring schools to block

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<v Speaker 1>social media access on federally funded networks. So there is

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<v Speaker 1>some action on this, as there should be. Again, it's

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<v Speaker 1>good to see that it's by partisan. Here's what I

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<v Speaker 1>think we need to do, and I think we need

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<v Speaker 1>to do it now. Watch Australia. Keep an eye on Australia,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to to see how this is working

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<v Speaker 1>over there. There will be bookoo challenges to it, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt about it. Probably already has been. But I

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<v Speaker 1>love the Aussies. My daughter's living over there now, but

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<v Speaker 1>let them be the guinea pig.

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<v Speaker 2>For this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we need to enact the cosma we just

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<v Speaker 1>talked about, or I think probably better. No, Kosa is

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<v Speaker 1>the better one. Cosma, I'm sorry, kids off social media

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<v Speaker 1>act Cosma is the better one. That's the one sponsored

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<v Speaker 1>by Ted Cruz and Brian Shatz. So it's a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're sticking our head in the sand if

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<v Speaker 1>we don't realize that it's a pro It breaks my

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<v Speaker 1>heart to see these kids, and I saw something not

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<v Speaker 1>too long ago. The average time per day online is

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<v Speaker 1>like three to four and in some cases five hours.

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<v Speaker 1>That ain't good. These kids ought to be outside playing

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<v Speaker 1>shoveling snow mow and grass, playing football, playing baseball. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mean team sports. I mean just a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of boys or girls of the neighborhood getting out and

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<v Speaker 1>doing something. We absolutely have to have some action on this,

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully we will.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, that's what I think. I want to know what

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<v Speaker 2>you think.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven four nine, seven thousand, one, eight hundred, the big

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<v Speaker 1>one are the numbers? Call on Saturday midday? Well, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what a lot of people want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this topic. So let's get to it. How's about Steve.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk to Steve.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, good morning, Steve morning, How are you. I'm good?

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<v Speaker 2>What you got for me?

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<v Speaker 5>I just had wanted to get your thoughts on the

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the social media band. What impact do you

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<v Speaker 5>think that would have on you know, getting a political

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<v Speaker 5>message out from you know, either side really, but since

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<v Speaker 5>there's a you know, a recent surge in the Republican

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<v Speaker 5>side of getting that message out, do you think that

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<v Speaker 5>would have a big impact?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Not, And I'm talking about a band for those sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>and under. Actually Australia's is under sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, you know at sixteen obviously you can't vote. There's

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<v Speaker 1>some people that want to make at sixteen. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it would affect what adults do politically online

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<v Speaker 1>at all. This is all about kids, and it's all

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<v Speaker 1>about tearing the kids away from their damn cell phones.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. I just thought since there was like a big,

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<v Speaker 5>you know emphasis on indoctrinating kids one way or the other,

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<v Speaker 5>you get a head start, you know with the messaging

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<v Speaker 5>ads and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>They might and I unders contact with.

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<v Speaker 1>I do understand that, but I don't know. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>my thought is, let's kind of see what happens in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're the guinea pigs. But boy, there are

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<v Speaker 1>experts everywhere that will tell you that social media is

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<v Speaker 1>really harming our kids. I don't think it takes too

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<v Speaker 1>much to figure that out, but you know, we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens.

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<v Speaker 4>By I agree.

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<v Speaker 5>I have the same issue with my kids as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that's like I say, you know, Steve, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad I'm not raising the teenager now. I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 1>so much pressure on him, especially young women too. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're compared to people that are on social media, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's just a lot, I think, but

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll have to see.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I appreciate sure feedback. That just popped in my

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<v Speaker 5>mind when I was listening to your topic this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Steve, call anytime, all right, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's talk too. How's about Barry up in Miamisburg. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>good morning, Barry, Hey, good morning.

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<v Speaker 6>What'd you got when you and I were in college

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<v Speaker 6>and in high school? If we wanted to, we could

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<v Speaker 6>bring in a tape recorder and record the lecture. Do

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<v Speaker 6>you remember that?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't do it, but I do kind of remember

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<v Speaker 1>some people doing it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, some of us who had really poor not taking skills,

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<v Speaker 6>did it right. I was one of them. Since then,

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<v Speaker 6>they have banned tape recorders. They're trying to ban phones

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<v Speaker 6>that are being used to record. My question is not

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<v Speaker 6>so much phones are disturbance. Who cares that the kid

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<v Speaker 6>next to you is playing Candy Crush. It's not a thing.

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<v Speaker 6>My question is what are the schools and the government

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<v Speaker 6>trying to hide. What don't they want the parents to

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<v Speaker 6>know their teaching.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good point, it's a very good point. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me address it.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, there have been proposals we talked about them a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago on this show, whereby somebody put

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<v Speaker 1>this idea forward.

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<v Speaker 2>In a classroom, you have a PA system.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's ancient terminology, but you know it ought

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<v Speaker 1>to be set up in a classroom. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>the teachers are their videotape in the classes, videotape that

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<v Speaker 1>and it can be watched by only by parents or

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<v Speaker 1>guardians of these kids. That lets teachers know, hey, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, you're gonna have to answer to somebody if

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<v Speaker 1>you start spewing all the garbage in the indoctrination. That

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<v Speaker 1>would take care of that. Of course, the teachers' unions

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to have anything to do.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll never allow that because they don't want you to know.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 6>That's what's all about. The government doesn't want you to

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<v Speaker 6>know what they're teaching their kids, and they're you candy

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<v Speaker 6>crust or another game as an excuse boo boo.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you know what, and I guess I understand what

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying, Barry, But I mean a huge problem.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you look at it, I think you'd agree

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<v Speaker 2>with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this whole social media for these teenagers and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to do something, I think and I guess

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have to watch Australia to see how it works there.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you've heard my few things.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. Thank you, Barry. All right, let's see.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me just say something first. I see where Barry's

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<v Speaker 1>going with it. You know, he wants to have kids

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<v Speaker 1>be able to record teachers. And I'll tell you I

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<v Speaker 1>can see the benefit in that, I really can. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>his teachers got to know that somebody's watching them. I

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<v Speaker 1>like my idea better. You know, either audio tape or

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<v Speaker 1>videotape them. Well, you know when they got to hide,

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<v Speaker 1>really and you could make that where the only people

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<v Speaker 1>that have access to that are the parents, that's it,

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<v Speaker 1>and the teacher obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess we have to see how that goes.

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<v Speaker 1>U two problems there, the whole social media problem and

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<v Speaker 1>then obviously the indoctrination problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, let's talk to Keith. Hey, good morning, Keith.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Mike, how are you. I'm good, big fan of yours.

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<v Speaker 4>The prosecutors officuely needs more people like you in it

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<v Speaker 4>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 4>But my thing with the social media ban for kids is,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, one, I agree with the problem. Social media

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<v Speaker 4>is a problem for kids, but that's a parents' job

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<v Speaker 4>to do. And the last thing we need to do

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<v Speaker 4>is hand over power to these companies to regulate us,

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<v Speaker 4>and you get Democrats a weapon to use against Republicans. Like, honestly,

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<v Speaker 4>Republicans stand for free speech right now and they need

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<v Speaker 4>to stick with that message otherwise they're gonna be a

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<v Speaker 4>blood bath in the next election. Well, so I think,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you look at like what's going on in Europe,

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<v Speaker 4>what's going on in Australia. You know, in Australia, they're

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<v Speaker 4>not banning Blue Sky, which is the most liberal platform

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<v Speaker 4>out there. And so I think your idea is great.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, one, get rid of cell phones in school.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm down with that, and I think too with that,

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<v Speaker 4>say that, you know, we're going to videotape these classrooms

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<v Speaker 4>so that the kids can have access to the information

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<v Speaker 4>if they want to record it, that may be able

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<v Speaker 4>to get around for the for the teachers. I think,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, right now, Republicans are seen as the free

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<v Speaker 4>speech party, and I think they need to focus on that,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'll you know, honestly, they need to pass some

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<v Speaker 4>of these regulations that Trump is put in place, get

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<v Speaker 4>some of the executive orders made into law, and stop

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<v Speaker 4>blocking the judicial nominations, because that's right now, the Republicans

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<v Speaker 4>are not doing anything to differentiate themselves from what's going

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<v Speaker 4>on in Europe or from even the Democrats at home.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they're going crazy in Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I saw something this week where the UK

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<v Speaker 1>they're actually locking people up for putting stuff on social

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<v Speaker 1>media that the government doesn't like.

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<v Speaker 2>That is frightening. I mean, in a lot of look

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<v Speaker 2>at it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, Mike, look at the numbers. It's insane, and honestly,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, if the lawn must think about it, what

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<v Speaker 4>you will if he wouldn't have bought Twitter and made

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<v Speaker 4>it free, like a lot of this wouldn't be out there.

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<v Speaker 2>In the public sphere.

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<v Speaker 4>And look at look at the numbers of people who

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<v Speaker 4>have been incarcerated in UK for online posts and harassment

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<v Speaker 4>and that type of thing. And it's through the roof,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's only gonna get worse, you know. And now

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<v Speaker 4>they want to start a war with Russia, and that's

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I'm not a fan of Russia by any means,

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<v Speaker 4>But do you think that the immigrants are gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>the ones that go fight that war? No, it's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be the you know, the native population. And the

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<v Speaker 4>governments in Europe right now are out of control and

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<v Speaker 4>they have an agenda.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going down to crapper and the President is not

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<v Speaker 1>shy about pointing that out. And he's right, He's absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 1>I see your point, Keith, and I appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me know it.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, thank you, Mike big fan, Okay, thank you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, And Keith, he makes a point.

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<v Speaker 1>If Republicans hancho this thing, and it looks like, honestly

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<v Speaker 1>from what I've read this week, that it is truly bipartisan.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably about the only thing I don't know that I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with US Republicans losing credibility on free speech if

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<v Speaker 1>it's limited to kids under sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just something that if you look.

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<v Speaker 1>At it, and I don't have kids any I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I have kids, but not young kids anymore. This is

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<v Speaker 1>really this problem is at a crisis point where I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're gonna lose a whole generation of kids if

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<v Speaker 1>something isn't done about it. I mean, it's just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know every generation says, well, this generation coming

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<v Speaker 1>up is nothing like us, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>I get that this is different. I mean, it just is.

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<v Speaker 1>Kids are not socializing. They're not outside playing football, baseball,

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<v Speaker 1>basketball with their buddies. You know, they're not going on

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<v Speaker 1>bike hikes some locations. I didn't want to let my

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<v Speaker 1>parents know where I went, but at least I was

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<v Speaker 1>doing something outside. I don't know, I just I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a really big problem. We got a perfect setup

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<v Speaker 1>with Australia. Let them do it. Maybe take a year

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<v Speaker 1>or so and take a look at how it's working

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<v Speaker 1>out for them. Hey, let's talk to Patty. Hey, good morning, Patty,

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<v Speaker 1>Morning Mike.

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<v Speaker 7>I haven't heard anyone touch on the subject of why

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<v Speaker 7>aren't these parents taking control of these kids? When my

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<v Speaker 7>mom said no or my dad said no, you didn't

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<v Speaker 7>go against them. You did what they told you to do,

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<v Speaker 7>and if you didn't there was a consequence. There's no

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<v Speaker 7>consequences for these kids today.

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<v Speaker 2>I got it.

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<v Speaker 8>They do what.

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<v Speaker 7>Girlever they want and there's no consequences because you might

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<v Speaker 7>hurt their feelings.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I got that. I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 1>That wasn't the case in my house and wasn't the

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<v Speaker 1>case in my neighborhood at all.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do understand that. And the.

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<v Speaker 1>Person that I quoted, I'm trying to find her here.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, she had an eleven year old kid and

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<v Speaker 1>the kid had her old iPhone. She took it away

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<v Speaker 1>from him and gave him a flip phone. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>does have to start with the parents, and I get that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know. There are many that think, and obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever the legislator is in Australia thought that, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is such a bad problem. Yes, parents, obviously we

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<v Speaker 1>need your help, but we got to do something.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's the thought. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, you know, this this all broke down, Mike when

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<v Speaker 7>it came to the family unit breaking down.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 7>You know how many kids today have a mom and

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<v Speaker 7>a dad that sit and have dinner every night. If

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<v Speaker 7>I'm in a restaurant, now I'm a senior citizen. If

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<v Speaker 7>I'm in a restaurant and a family sits down, the

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<v Speaker 7>first thing you see is all four of them take

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<v Speaker 7>out the cellphone. Ye I have no problem going to

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<v Speaker 7>that table and say, listen, Before you know it, these

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<v Speaker 7>kids are going to be out of your house and

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<v Speaker 7>you don't even know what color their eyes are.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a really good did you speak up though?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh yes, I always do.

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<v Speaker 1>What what?

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<v Speaker 2>What's the response that you get from some of the parents.

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<v Speaker 7>Some of them just look at me and smile, and

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<v Speaker 7>some of them say thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:00.640
<v Speaker 7>And if there's a family in a restaurant where their

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<v Speaker 7>children are well behaved, I always compliment them because I

0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:06.200
<v Speaker 7>didn't go out to dinner to put up with your

0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:07.719
<v Speaker 7>brat running around my table.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. I love Joe my mom, God rest

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 1>her soul. She wouldn't have tolerated any of that crap.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, no way, no, I don't.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't tolerate.

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<v Speaker 6>I love children.

0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 7>I've got five grandsons. My youngest grandson is fourteen, and

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<v Speaker 7>he is so smart on that cell phone, but he

0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:33.399
<v Speaker 7>also has a life outside that cell phone. We have

0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:36.840
<v Speaker 7>a date every Saturday night. We go out. That cell

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<v Speaker 7>phone is put away.

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<v Speaker 2>Good, good parents, not to do that.

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<v Speaker 7>It's gonna start. It's gonna start the home and we

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<v Speaker 7>got to quit putting all this crap on the government.

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<v Speaker 7>Take responsibility for your children. You had them, they didn't

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<v Speaker 7>ask to be born.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it, I get it. Thank you for the call, Patty.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm bumping up against the news.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Yeah, I hear what she's saying, But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that the problem has become so acute

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe it is appropriate for the government to step

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:13.959
<v Speaker 1>in and give parents a hand. I guess because the

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<v Speaker 1>Emily Jackis was her name, the HR consultant that I

0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:20.399
<v Speaker 1>was quoting. She makes the point that, man, these kids

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:21.680
<v Speaker 1>are tech savvy.

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:22.440
<v Speaker 2>They can get.

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Around all this stuff. So, you know, I don't know,

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have to wait and see. I just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wanted to open the discussion on this. I do

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:34.680
<v Speaker 1>want to watch closely how it works in Australia because

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I just think something's got to happen because we're losing

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 1>a generation. Hey, we got to take a break. But

0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:42.199
<v Speaker 1>I do want to tell those people that are on

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:45.240
<v Speaker 1>hold and somebody that might want to be a part

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 1>of the show. I have open lines from ten thirty

0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 1>to eleven o'clock, So seven four nine, seven thousand, one,

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:54.639
<v Speaker 1>eight hundred, the big one are the numbers if you

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 1>want to be a part. Mike Allen, Saturday Midday. But

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<v Speaker 1>before we go, I want to let you know Jayannis

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Heisel up next. I believe she was on the ground

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:06.680
<v Speaker 1>in Minnesota this week with all that craziness. We'll talk

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 1>to Janis when we get back from the news. Mike Allen,

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Saturday Midday.

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:14.159
<v Speaker 9>It's the season for connecting to our community, our traditions,

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:14.880
<v Speaker 9>and each other.

0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 2>That's why Alta Fiber is here giving you peace of mind.

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:18.960
<v Speaker 2>With internet you can.

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Do news radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:28.679
<v Speaker 1>Midday second hour of saying Well, I'll tell you what

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 1>we've got. Increased investigatory action relative the unbelievably massive fraud,

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:42.960
<v Speaker 1>multi billion dollar fraud many think the Somali situation in Minnesota. Also,

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>the Minneapolis City Council and their infinite wisdom acted this

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 1>week to actually strengthen the ordinance to help illegal aliens

0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 1>at the expense of regular Americans. Here to talk about

0:28:56.800 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 1>that as someone who's reporting on it, she's been on

0:28:59.160 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 1>the ground there, I belie leave this week. Our friend

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<v Speaker 1>from the Epoch Times, Janis Heiseel Janis, thanks so much

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:05.760
<v Speaker 1>for calling in.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, thank you. Yeah, if you can call it the ground,

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:11.640
<v Speaker 8>it was the snow covered ground. It was pretty dark

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 8>and snow and cold there. We think we haven't met

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 8>here all Minnesota. Winner is not for.

0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 1>The faint of heart, really, But you're home now. Are

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 1>you going back next week?

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 8>Or actually probably not because there are some things I

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 8>can do online, Like there's a medium I'm gonna watch online.

0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 8>But I was on the ground talking to people going

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:35.560
<v Speaker 8>to the council meeting. You just reference where they ended

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 8>up passing UH a revised version of the ordnance that

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:43.720
<v Speaker 8>makes them a quote unquote sanctuary city, which the Trump

0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 8>administration has sued Minneapolis as well as the state of

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 8>Minnesota over these sanctuary policies where they're protecting illegal immigrants

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 8>from UH, the enforcement action they're not allowed. It's it's interesting,

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.080
<v Speaker 8>it's like a fine line. They're they're not allowed to

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 8>imped the federal agents, but they're not cooperating with them either,

0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:06.600
<v Speaker 8>So that's that's the fine line there.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's nothing about impeding them or interfering in inter rest.

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 2>They just kind of walk that up to the line.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, yeah.

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 8>They do not they're not allowed because then, you know,

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 8>Pam Bondi has threatened that they would be prosecuted.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you know, and I saw too in the research

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:27.560
<v Speaker 1>they already had a twenty two year old ordinance that

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 1>explicitly reflects the city's values, I guess, values of preferring

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:37.520
<v Speaker 1>illegals over regular Americans. But hey, that's my editorial comment,

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 1>I suppose. But they've actually had something on the books

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:42.720
<v Speaker 1>for twenty two years. They must have been one of

0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 1>the first in the country.

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Actually, a number of the people who spoke at the

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 8>meeting that I covered on Tuesday use the term a

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:57.760
<v Speaker 8>progressive beacon to describe the city of Minneapolis. And I

0:30:57.840 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 8>actually was talking to a number of people who were

0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 8>not at the meeting, including a senator state senator, and like,

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 8>you know, every single person who spoke at this meeting,

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 8>they were like I think thirty six people spoke at

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 8>this meeting, all of them in favor of beating up

0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 8>this ordnance. And I said, just everybody in town supports this.

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 8>Do you know if anybody's against me? Because if they

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 8>are against it, they won't say so publicly. Because there

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 8>is a culture there, according to him, of people who

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:31.960
<v Speaker 8>express an alternative viewpoint that isn't progressive are going to

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:35.479
<v Speaker 8>be docks, you know, threatened their family, threatened, their jobs,

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 8>threatened or quote unquote worst as he.

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 2>Says, nice, nice, Well that's typical the left.

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, they know everything, their position is right,

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 1>never listen to anybody else.

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:50.520
<v Speaker 2>But it still haunts you off. Though they did.

0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:54.160
<v Speaker 1>They also talk to about the mask issue of because

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 1>I've read something that they thought that wearing masks which

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 1>protect the police officer, the ICE our contrary to the

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 1>quote values close quote of the city anything on that

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 1>janus that you can recall, a.

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 8>Number of people who spoke at the meeting did say

0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 8>they they didn't think it was right that the ICE

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 8>ations were allowed to be masked. They said that the

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 8>ICE agents should be arrested by the local police, which

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 8>I think is kind of interesting because the last time

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 8>I checked the US Constitution has a supremacy clause that

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 8>outlines that the federal government outranks the states and or

0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 8>the city. So I thought that was kind of an

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 8>interesting cake, especially because the number of the people who

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 8>spoke at the meeting were wearing masks, ostensively COVID masks,

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 8>like those health masks. But so they're saying it's o

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 8>key for them to wear masks, but they don't think

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 8>that the police should be able to wear masks. So

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 8>that's that's literally the type of thing I was encountering.

0:32:56.760 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I thought I read somewhere too that there

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 1>were in urging people to where is I wrote it

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:06.760
<v Speaker 1>down going out in the streets and blowing whistles during

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 1>these ice investigations and stops. Do you recall that being

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:13.360
<v Speaker 1>a part of this too, Janis?

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:15.560
<v Speaker 8>Oh, yes, One guy said that he doesn't leave his

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 8>home without a whistle. The whistles are supposed to a

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 8>I guess annoy the police that the alert other immigrants

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 8>that ices in the area stay away.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotcha.

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's really great, you know, really a help to

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 1>law enforcement. I say that tongue in cheek puts them

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 1>on a harm's way even more than they already are

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:42.040
<v Speaker 1>also you mentioned and you wrote an article about it,

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 1>the increased investigatory action relative to the multi billion dollar

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:52.720
<v Speaker 1>according to some scam going on there with the Somalian community.

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 2>What's the latest on that, Janus, Well.

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<v Speaker 8>Just yesterday Scott des sent the Treasury Secretary issue the

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:07.160
<v Speaker 8>statement saying that they're about to announce some new regulations

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 8>where the money transfers going from the United States to

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 8>Somalia are going to have additional reporting requirements and that

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:19.400
<v Speaker 8>the I r S is involved. There are certain businesses,

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:23.439
<v Speaker 8>money transfer businesses who are going to be alerted that

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 8>they are getting un notice that they're under investigation for

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 8>transfers that may not be on the up and up.

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:34.400
<v Speaker 8>Now outlined, and it's a little hard to explain verbally,

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 8>there's this money transfer system that is it dates back

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:41.440
<v Speaker 8>in years and years years. It's an informal way.

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:46.799
<v Speaker 2>To Yeah, what is that, Javis, As best as you

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:47.480
<v Speaker 2>can tell.

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 8>Us, Well, the way it works is that say that

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 8>I want to send money to another country, I contact

0:34:56.560 --> 0:35:00.800
<v Speaker 8>this intermediary and he has a second intermediary in the

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:03.279
<v Speaker 8>country where I went to send money. I give the

0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 8>money to my guy and then he just contacts the

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 8>other guy and goes, hey, I promise I'll settle up

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 8>with you later if you give will you give money

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 8>to the second person the person that I'm seeking to

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:17.600
<v Speaker 8>give the money to give the money to a person

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:19.800
<v Speaker 8>as long as they give a correct password, give them the money,

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 8>and we'll settle up later between the two of us,

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:26.359
<v Speaker 8>so the money doesn't actually go overseas. The person who

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:30.400
<v Speaker 8>is in the foreign country provides money to the second

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:33.719
<v Speaker 8>person recip intended recipient as long as that person has

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 8>a correct password. And apparently this has gone on for years,

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 8>and there are legitimate uses for this. However, it is

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:43.319
<v Speaker 8>a way to avoid detection. Some people say there have

0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:47.920
<v Speaker 8>been enhanced requirements for reporting any kind of money transfer

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:51.279
<v Speaker 8>businesses ever since the Patriot Act, which was passed right

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 8>after nine to eleven to try to clamp down on

0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:58.839
<v Speaker 8>terrorist networks because of the September eleventh terror attacks. So

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:01.360
<v Speaker 8>that's kind of in the nutshell.

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:04.200
<v Speaker 1>How it works, gotcha. Yeah, I'll tell you what. This

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 1>thing just keeps getting bigger and bigger this week. And

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:08.799
<v Speaker 1>I know we just talked to you last week, but

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:12.680
<v Speaker 1>are you hearing anything more about the investigation that I

0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:16.080
<v Speaker 1>guess specifically where they're at now. As far as the

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 1>dollar amount, I know it was estimated one billion, possibly

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:24.280
<v Speaker 1>more than that. Because of the whistleblowers, I guess the question,

0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:26.799
<v Speaker 1>what have you learned new this week that we didn't

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:27.879
<v Speaker 1>already know last week?

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:32.879
<v Speaker 8>Well, the whustle blowers actually have estimated that it could

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 8>be up to eight billions.

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:38.800
<v Speaker 8>And the new additional information that I'm working on currently

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:42.839
<v Speaker 8>is that it's not just Somalians, though though it does

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 8>seem that there are a high percentage of the cases

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:51.080
<v Speaker 8>are Somalian suspects. However, I found out that guess what,

0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:58.719
<v Speaker 8>the second largest population of Somali's, the second only to Minnesota,

0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:00.760
<v Speaker 8>is right here in Ohio.

0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:01.480
<v Speaker 6>Oh.

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 8>Really, we have the second highest number of Somalis. And

0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:09.319
<v Speaker 8>there was there is an attorney whistle blower who has

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:13.120
<v Speaker 8>come forward saying that there is some significant fraud here.

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:15.719
<v Speaker 8>I haven't had a chance to interview that attorney yet.

0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:18.279
<v Speaker 8>I just found out about this last night, and so

0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:20.279
<v Speaker 8>I'm going to be looking into this. I'm going to

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 8>be doing a story that talks about it's not just Minnesota,

0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 8>although it does appear to be that Minnesota is leading

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:30.799
<v Speaker 8>the way, so to speak. I've been speaking to lawmakers

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:33.200
<v Speaker 8>in Minnesota. I've talked for four or five.

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 9>Of them now.

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 8>One of them told me that they're trying to get

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:39.880
<v Speaker 8>some of the money recovered by like, for example, some

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:43.799
<v Speaker 8>of these people bought property in Kenya with these allegedly

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:47.640
<v Speaker 8>ill gotten games from the welfare fraud and even own

0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:50.680
<v Speaker 8>a bakery here in Ohio. The taxpayers of Minnesota now

0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:52.680
<v Speaker 8>own a bakery in Ohio as a result of fraud,

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:55.480
<v Speaker 8>according to this one legislator. So I haven't looked into

0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:58.600
<v Speaker 8>that deeply yet. I literally just found out this information yesterday.

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 8>So I literally have five six different stories I am

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:05.600
<v Speaker 8>trying to pull together. I mean, I could probably write

0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 8>stories for the rest of this year and probably next

0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:12.920
<v Speaker 8>year about all of this, and especially because there are

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 8>other states now involved but that we just haven't heard about,

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:19.759
<v Speaker 8>like Ohio. I don't know the extent of it here

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:23.360
<v Speaker 8>in Ohio, but apparently there is some. And given that

0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 8>it's the second largest population of Somalies. I mean, I

0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 8>have nothing against Themali. They don't know Somali people. In fact,

0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:32.280
<v Speaker 8>I talked to a few in uh who actually spoke English.

0:38:32.280 --> 0:38:32.879
<v Speaker 2>It was hard to.

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:35.399
<v Speaker 8>Find those who did, but they were, you know, they

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:39.279
<v Speaker 8>were nice to me, they spoke to me. But when

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:41.160
<v Speaker 8>you come from a country that is viewed as the

0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 8>world's second most corrupt, it does kind of affect what

0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:49.880
<v Speaker 8>you think is acceptable. Perhaps, sure that that's the theory

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:52.560
<v Speaker 8>about what's driving this is they come from a country

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:56.319
<v Speaker 8>where corruption is kind of an everyday thing and and

0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:58.839
<v Speaker 8>it's a struggle to get by and you do which

0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:01.279
<v Speaker 8>can whatever.

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:03.560
<v Speaker 2>That might be, I get that, I do.

0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 1>If you heard anything more about what Tim Wallas is

0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:11.239
<v Speaker 1>up to. I know he made some statements and it

0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:13.919
<v Speaker 1>looks like people are lining up to run against him

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:18.399
<v Speaker 1>for governor. There was one Republican and from what I

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:21.239
<v Speaker 1>was hearing, it looks like he may have a primary

0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:24.400
<v Speaker 1>challenge by a Democrat. What are you hearing if anything

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:26.600
<v Speaker 1>about that? Janus, I mean, that guy's got to be

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:27.840
<v Speaker 1>on the run somewhere.

0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:32.200
<v Speaker 8>Yes, Well, yesterday he did hold a press conference where

0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:36.360
<v Speaker 8>he revealed that there was going to be like an

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:42.359
<v Speaker 8>integrity zar, so to speak, who would oversee, you know,

0:39:42.680 --> 0:39:45.480
<v Speaker 8>fraud investigations and kind of try to come up with

0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:49.040
<v Speaker 8>different ways to prevent fraud. But from what I saw

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:52.200
<v Speaker 8>a lot of comments online from people saying, you know,

0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:55.439
<v Speaker 8>where were you years ago? When the whistleblowers were trying

0:39:55.480 --> 0:40:00.400
<v Speaker 8>to tell you about this. There was also as attorney

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 8>was quoted, excuse me, it's saying that that the people

0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:11.240
<v Speaker 8>would quote, the highest echelons of state government had turned

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:13.960
<v Speaker 8>a blind eye to what was going on for years.

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:17.040
<v Speaker 8>This stuff. This didn't pop up overnight. I did one

0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:21.719
<v Speaker 8>story that indicated that I found concerns about this and

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:25.719
<v Speaker 8>investigations about some of this dating back like ten years.

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Wow. Yeah, there have been what I think about seventy

0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:34.800
<v Speaker 1>something indicted and either pled guilty or had been found

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:35.960
<v Speaker 1>guilty by a trial.

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Is that accurate? Correct?

0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:43.000
<v Speaker 8>And so there's there's just so much going on. It's

0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:44.840
<v Speaker 8>it's really hard to keep up with. There are multiple

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:47.800
<v Speaker 8>federal investigations, not just the Treasury and the I r S,

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:54.279
<v Speaker 8>but also doctor Oz's Medicaid Department for lack of a

0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:58.880
<v Speaker 8>better term, and the Small Business Administration is part of

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:03.280
<v Speaker 8>this as well. And that's so there is it sounds

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:05.879
<v Speaker 8>like to me a full court press going on from

0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 8>the Trump administration and walls. The governor is pushing back

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:12.879
<v Speaker 8>against that. He's you know, saying that you know, it's

0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:15.319
<v Speaker 8>because Trump is racist, that Trump is pushing this because

0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:18.960
<v Speaker 8>he's racist and that that was his response yesterday during

0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:20.759
<v Speaker 8>his news conference, which lasted for.

0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Like an hour.

0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, racism, charges of racism, the last refuge of a scoundrel.

0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:31.080
<v Speaker 1>It figures that he would say something like that, I mean,

0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:34.920
<v Speaker 1>are you hearing anything that potentially he's vulnerable? I mean

0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:37.239
<v Speaker 1>you would think, I guess in any other state he

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:41.320
<v Speaker 1>would be. But who knows about Minnesota. Are you hearing

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:42.239
<v Speaker 1>anything on that?

0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:48.920
<v Speaker 8>Well, the people who are saying yes are a Republican, right,

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:53.120
<v Speaker 8>so we you know they they have, you know, a

0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:57.040
<v Speaker 8>a biased perspective for sure. However, you know, it does

0:41:57.120 --> 0:42:01.960
<v Speaker 8>seem like that there is this simmering sense of people

0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:05.960
<v Speaker 8>are not happy, you know that their taxes are going up. Yep,

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:11.400
<v Speaker 8>because it's not just the Somali fraud that's part of that.

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:13.680
<v Speaker 8>It's that they have a lot of unfunded mandates for

0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:17.839
<v Speaker 8>social programs and they put all these requirements out there,

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:21.320
<v Speaker 8>and then the local governments have to increase property taxes

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:24.760
<v Speaker 8>and other types of taxes for the citizens. For example,

0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:28.359
<v Speaker 8>while I was at the Minneapolis City council meeting, they

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:30.800
<v Speaker 8>came up with some new legislation where if a homeless

0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 8>encampment has more than twenty people they will be providing.

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 8>The city will be required to put in Portajohns sanitation stations,

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 8>get medical care for people, et cetera, et cetera. And

0:42:44.400 --> 0:42:45.640
<v Speaker 8>where does that money come from?

0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Yep, well, I think they think it grows on trees.

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:51.680
<v Speaker 1>But hey, we're out of time. Janis as always, really

0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:54.960
<v Speaker 1>appreciates you filling us in, and we're lucky to have you.

0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:56.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're on the ground there.

0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:58.960
<v Speaker 1>And you got the whole thing tied down, so I

0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:00.320
<v Speaker 1>hope we can call on you again.

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:03.799
<v Speaker 8>Of course, I love talking to the local audiences. This

0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 8>is home for me.

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay, good, thank you.

0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:10.759
<v Speaker 1>Janis all right, Janis Heisel Epoch Times man, she is

0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:13.759
<v Speaker 1>all over it. I will remind you that she was

0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:17.840
<v Speaker 1>singled out by none other than Newt Gingrids praising her

0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:21.480
<v Speaker 1>reporting on this particular story. And I guess it doesn't

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:23.279
<v Speaker 1>get any better than that. Hey, we got to take

0:43:23.280 --> 0:43:25.560
<v Speaker 1>a break, but we're gonna flip things a little bit

0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:27.960
<v Speaker 1>here when we come back. We're going to talk to

0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Evan Andrews of SINCEY favorites a lot of great, great

0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 1>gift ideas. I have used the service before. My sister

0:43:35.160 --> 0:43:39.279
<v Speaker 1>lives in Sedona and she wants some Cincinnati stuff. So

0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:41.839
<v Speaker 1>we will talk to Evan when we get back, and

0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:45.719
<v Speaker 1>from eleven o'clock to eleven thirty that will be the

0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 1>open line. So again, if you're on the line now

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:50.399
<v Speaker 1>and you want to hold, I promise I.

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Will get to you at eleven. Mike Allen, Saturday Midday,

0:43:55.560 --> 0:44:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Progressive Commercial Nose Trickers Connect Mike Allen Saturday Midday. Hey,

0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 2>I tell you what.

0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:03.600
<v Speaker 1>It's that time of year again. You all know what

0:44:03.640 --> 0:44:06.959
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about Christmas and if you have some out

0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:10.520
<v Speaker 1>of town relatives, as I do, a good way to

0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:13.640
<v Speaker 1>tell them Merry Christmas and that you love them is

0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:17.000
<v Speaker 1>to get them some Cincinnati food. Here to talk about

0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:21.239
<v Speaker 1>it is Evan Andrews. Evan is with Sincyfavorites dot com.

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:23.880
<v Speaker 1>They got about everything under the sun there, Evan, thanks

0:44:23.880 --> 0:44:26.120
<v Speaker 1>for coming up today. Oh thanks for having me tell

0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:29.640
<v Speaker 1>us a little bit about sincey favorites, what you guys offer,

0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:32.960
<v Speaker 1>how people can take advantage of it if they would

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:33.239
<v Speaker 1>like to.

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:35.880
<v Speaker 9>Well, you got a call soon, yeah, or get on

0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:39.080
<v Speaker 9>the computer and go on to Sincyfavorites dot com and

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:42.440
<v Speaker 9>order right away. Okay, of course, Montgomery and you know

0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:45.200
<v Speaker 9>our family, my in law start to Montgomery in back

0:44:45.239 --> 0:44:47.920
<v Speaker 9>in nineteen fifty one. And this is kind of evolved

0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:50.880
<v Speaker 9>from us packing and shipping our ribs and barbecue sauce

0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 9>to shipping Skyline Chili Creators, ice Cream, Glear's, Getta, Lorosa's Pizzas,

0:44:56.760 --> 0:45:02.200
<v Speaker 9>Saints Francis Pizza's, Pine Club, you name it, we've got it,

0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:03.960
<v Speaker 9>and we can pack it all.

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:04.960
<v Speaker 2>We do everything to order.

0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:07.880
<v Speaker 9>We don't do like some other companies or they have

0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:10.440
<v Speaker 9>these little set kits they pack six months prior and

0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:12.799
<v Speaker 9>they have them in the freezer. We pull everything to order,

0:45:12.880 --> 0:45:15.240
<v Speaker 9>so when you order, you can pick and choose whatever

0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:18.440
<v Speaker 9>you want, or get one of our standard sets and

0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:19.359
<v Speaker 9>go from there.

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:21.640
<v Speaker 2>We do it all to order. It sounds like you

0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:22.720
<v Speaker 2>got just about everything.

0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:26.279
<v Speaker 1>Mentioning talking about off the air about Pine Club, I

0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:29.359
<v Speaker 1>haven't been up there in a long long time, but man.

0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:31.880
<v Speaker 9>It's a lot of good steaks, great steaks. You know,

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:34.200
<v Speaker 9>we're blessed in this city. We've got some great, great

0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:37.200
<v Speaker 9>unique food items. Yes, sir, and I would say this

0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:40.799
<v Speaker 9>town is pretty loyal. No matter where you live now,

0:45:40.880 --> 0:45:43.400
<v Speaker 9>you always want that taste to home. No, it's a

0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:46.240
<v Speaker 9>great question. No question about my sister. I had mentioned

0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:46.440
<v Speaker 9>to you.

0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Lives in Sedona, and I've used your service quite a

0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:50.440
<v Speaker 1>bit over the years.

0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:50.839
<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:53.320
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm gonna hit it again this year because

0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:56.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, her and her husband both from Cincinnati.

0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:58.000
<v Speaker 1>They want some Cincinnati food.

0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:01.399
<v Speaker 9>It's funny people say, you ship Glear's Getta, how much

0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:02.880
<v Speaker 9>do you? How much do you sell? I said, We're

0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:05.920
<v Speaker 9>going to have close to fifteen thousand one pound rolls

0:46:05.960 --> 0:46:08.200
<v Speaker 9>of Getta going out just in December.

0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:11.560
<v Speaker 2>It's a lot. You had mentioned that people better act quickly.

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Is that I mean, is this something that if you're

0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:17.920
<v Speaker 1>like me, you can do the day before Christmas a

0:46:17.920 --> 0:46:20.600
<v Speaker 1>couple of days before, or is it a deal where

0:46:20.640 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 1>you better get it in now?

0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:22.239
<v Speaker 2>You better.

0:46:22.760 --> 0:46:25.000
<v Speaker 9>We like to have it in the queue for now

0:46:25.080 --> 0:46:27.200
<v Speaker 9>to plant it out. But the last day that we

0:46:27.280 --> 0:46:30.920
<v Speaker 9>will ship will be December twenty third, for the twenty fourth,

0:46:30.960 --> 0:46:34.040
<v Speaker 9>but you're at the mercy of FedEx making sure they

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:36.440
<v Speaker 9>get it there, and I'd hate for a Christmas present

0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:40.239
<v Speaker 9>not to arrive on time. So we were telling everybody

0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:43.040
<v Speaker 9>we want to make the December twenty second, or really

0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:44.960
<v Speaker 9>our last push that's on a Monday.

0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:47.520
<v Speaker 2>That gives people plenty of time we've we've got a

0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:48.839
<v Speaker 2>week and a half. We're good.

0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to ask you, what would you say is

0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:55.799
<v Speaker 1>your most popular item that people want? And I know

0:46:55.880 --> 0:46:58.719
<v Speaker 1>you have different combinations and things, but you can also

0:46:58.880 --> 0:47:02.759
<v Speaker 1>kind of do it uh on a basis where you

0:47:02.840 --> 0:47:05.920
<v Speaker 1>just pick it out yourself. But what do besides Montgomery

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:08.479
<v Speaker 1>and ribs? Of course, what do people really want?

0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:10.680
<v Speaker 9>I will tell you the number one, of course, is

0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:13.720
<v Speaker 9>will be our the Montgomery and Ribs combined with Greaters

0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:16.040
<v Speaker 9>ice cream. You'll get four slabs of ribs and two

0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 9>pints of Greaters ice cream. And then people will add

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:20.880
<v Speaker 9>our baked beans to it, our mac and cheese to it.

0:47:20.960 --> 0:47:24.560
<v Speaker 9>Then they'll start adding Skyline chili. We've got canned, We've

0:47:24.560 --> 0:47:27.080
<v Speaker 9>got the frozen, We've got the new Chicken chili. Then

0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:30.080
<v Speaker 9>you've got on the other side, people love Lo Rosa's pizzas.

0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:34.360
<v Speaker 9>They love they love that it is too, so you

0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:38.560
<v Speaker 9>can start picking and choosing and matching up what you

0:47:38.560 --> 0:47:41.239
<v Speaker 9>know what makes your family happy. So that's those are

0:47:41.239 --> 0:47:43.560
<v Speaker 9>our number one sellers. And then then you've got the

0:47:43.560 --> 0:47:46.560
<v Speaker 9>people on the dessert side. They love schnecking. Remember the

0:47:46.560 --> 0:47:47.279
<v Speaker 9>old Virginia bake.

0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:50.520
<v Speaker 2>I heard you talking about that. So I've never had it,

0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:51.400
<v Speaker 2>but I've heard about it.

0:47:51.719 --> 0:47:55.040
<v Speaker 9>People used to line up at the Virginia Bake in

0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:58.960
<v Speaker 9>Clifton and they would line up well. When they decided

0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:02.000
<v Speaker 9>to stop doing business, the Buskin family, Dan and Brian

0:48:02.080 --> 0:48:05.360
<v Speaker 9>Buskin talked to the owner. They got the recipe and

0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:09.200
<v Speaker 9>they're making the original Virginia Bakery schneck and we'll send

0:48:09.239 --> 0:48:12.799
<v Speaker 9>out a couple thousand schneckins this month. People load up

0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:14.640
<v Speaker 9>their freezer and they keep them. They keep them for

0:48:14.719 --> 0:48:17.560
<v Speaker 9>a couple of months. They're they're fabulous. I can't believe

0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:19.920
<v Speaker 9>I haven't had that yet. I'm gonna have to give it.

0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:22.439
<v Speaker 9>It's decadent. We have another little company we're helping out

0:48:22.800 --> 0:48:26.160
<v Speaker 9>called the North College Hill Cakery. It's a mother and

0:48:26.200 --> 0:48:28.759
<v Speaker 9>a daughter. They've got the most wonderful they call them.

0:48:28.800 --> 0:48:33.360
<v Speaker 9>Ooey gooey buttercakes you can't go wrong. And Bonbindery Opera

0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:36.360
<v Speaker 9>cream cakes. Of course we have them. We've got the cervads,

0:48:37.520 --> 0:48:40.680
<v Speaker 9>carrot cake, and apple pies and cherry pies and pumpkin pies.

0:48:40.760 --> 0:48:45.000
<v Speaker 2>So got everything. You got it covered. You mentioned Skyline chili,

0:48:45.080 --> 0:48:45.920
<v Speaker 2>the chicken chili.

0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:49.960
<v Speaker 9>I've not had that yet, have you I have, and

0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:52.160
<v Speaker 9>I will tell you they did a really really great

0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:54.880
<v Speaker 9>job of matching the flavor profile. It does taste a

0:48:54.920 --> 0:48:57.839
<v Speaker 9>little different, it's chicken versus beef. But they really did

0:48:57.880 --> 0:49:00.360
<v Speaker 9>a great job. They spend a lot of time effort

0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:01.560
<v Speaker 9>to make sure they got it right.

0:49:01.840 --> 0:49:02.480
<v Speaker 2>It is great.

0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:05.359
<v Speaker 9>I gotta try it. But you know how people are,

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:07.759
<v Speaker 9>I know they want to stay with the original.

0:49:08.120 --> 0:49:09.480
<v Speaker 2>I wonder what the thought was.

0:49:09.920 --> 0:49:12.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure obviously there's a demander they wouldn't have done it,

0:49:12.800 --> 0:49:15.719
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know. Maybe chickens are supposed to be

0:49:15.719 --> 0:49:16.600
<v Speaker 1>a little more healthy.

0:49:16.800 --> 0:49:18.920
<v Speaker 9>Well, I think it's the higher protein level and I've

0:49:18.920 --> 0:49:21.200
<v Speaker 9>seen people are looking for that, and it's a little

0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:24.560
<v Speaker 9>bit different, just slightly different flavor profile. But it's still great.

0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:27.440
<v Speaker 9>I had about two weeks ago. It was terrific.

0:49:27.600 --> 0:49:27.839
<v Speaker 2>Ah.

0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Great, Well, I have to try that too. What else

0:49:30.600 --> 0:49:32.480
<v Speaker 1>do you want to tell everybody about it? How can

0:49:32.520 --> 0:49:36.839
<v Speaker 1>they take advantage of this website? How they would get

0:49:36.840 --> 0:49:40.920
<v Speaker 1>in touch with not you personally, but just just go

0:49:41.000 --> 0:49:44.160
<v Speaker 1>to Sincyfavorites dot com. Okay, and that's the easiest way

0:49:44.200 --> 0:49:46.799
<v Speaker 1>to do it. Just go online. You can place a

0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:47.520
<v Speaker 1>corporate order.

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<v Speaker 9>We've got a special corporate tab where you can download

0:49:49.760 --> 0:49:52.560
<v Speaker 9>from an Excel file or right from your context, goes

0:49:52.640 --> 0:49:56.320
<v Speaker 9>right into our database, into our system. It's very, very

0:49:56.440 --> 0:49:59.799
<v Speaker 9>very seamless real. It really is terrific. It's so some

0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:02.239
<v Speaker 9>We have a good friend Willie talks about him all

0:50:02.239 --> 0:50:04.759
<v Speaker 9>the time, Wayne Carucci. And if Wayne Cruse he can

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<v Speaker 9>figure out how to make an order, anybody can figure

0:50:07.280 --> 0:50:08.360
<v Speaker 9>out how to make it.

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<v Speaker 2>He hasn't met me yet. I'll tell you what. It's easy.

0:50:11.080 --> 0:50:11.800
<v Speaker 2>I struggle.

0:50:12.080 --> 0:50:14.359
<v Speaker 1>So if I go home this afternoon, which I very

0:50:14.360 --> 0:50:17.239
<v Speaker 1>well may do, and bang out an order for my

0:50:17.400 --> 0:50:21.279
<v Speaker 1>sister in Sedona, uh, she will get it.

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<v Speaker 9>By Chris, there's no doubt he'll probably. I think Monday's

0:50:24.400 --> 0:50:26.560
<v Speaker 9>locked out. We've got over a thousand shipments going out

0:50:26.600 --> 0:50:30.279
<v Speaker 9>on Monday. So Tuesday, Tuesday or Wednesday, and Sedona will

0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:32.960
<v Speaker 9>be a next day air delivery service, so she'll get

0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:34.719
<v Speaker 9>it one day. We'll pack it up on Wednesday and

0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:35.680
<v Speaker 9>it'll be there Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds good.

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<v Speaker 9>Anything else you want to say, no, no, just we're

0:50:39.719 --> 0:50:42.399
<v Speaker 9>blessed to be in a great city of Cincinnati, where

0:50:42.400 --> 0:50:47.680
<v Speaker 9>we've got wonderful, wonderful homemade products absolutely and people that

0:50:47.840 --> 0:50:50.160
<v Speaker 9>move out of town want them and you're there.

0:50:50.200 --> 0:50:53.640
<v Speaker 1>You're there to give them that service. Appreciate you coming

0:50:53.719 --> 0:50:56.040
<v Speaker 1>up and letting us know, and good luck with everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Mike, appreciate it, Thank you, thank you. Hey, we

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<v Speaker 1>got to take a break, but we'll be back.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Allen. Saturday, midday.

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<v Speaker 5>Apparently mother nature is deciding to press the snow button.

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<v Speaker 2>When will it arrive?

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<v Speaker 5>Need to keep it here for the latest from yours

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<v Speaker 5>Severe weather Station seven hundred w l W.

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<v Speaker 2>Your ticket to.

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<v Speaker 10>Big savings is that big blue envelope in your mailbox

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<v Speaker 10>val pack.

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<v Speaker 2>It's printing with deals.

0:51:26.400 --> 0:51:29.880
<v Speaker 1>From midday, we moved things around a little bit. I

0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:34.200
<v Speaker 1>had Evan on at ten thirty. Well, I'll tell you

0:51:34.239 --> 0:51:37.600
<v Speaker 1>what after listening to him and since he favorites, I'm hungry,

0:51:38.040 --> 0:51:40.360
<v Speaker 1>you know. And like I said, I've used the service

0:51:40.400 --> 0:51:43.239
<v Speaker 1>before and I'm going to use it again. I have

0:51:43.320 --> 0:51:46.719
<v Speaker 1>a sister out in Sedona and it's really great. And

0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:51.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what, Cincinnati people, when they move away, they

0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:52.640
<v Speaker 1>still want Cincinnati food.

0:51:53.360 --> 0:51:54.080
<v Speaker 2>Great gift.

0:51:54.760 --> 0:51:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I think you ought to check it out anyway, As promised,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going back to the phones here.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank everybody for hanging on too.

0:52:01.719 --> 0:52:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Again, we do have open lines from eleven o'clock to

0:52:06.040 --> 0:52:08.919
<v Speaker 1>eleven thirty. At eleven thirty and talk to our friend

0:52:09.000 --> 0:52:11.319
<v Speaker 1>Peter Bronson. He's got a new book out just in

0:52:11.400 --> 0:52:13.799
<v Speaker 1>time for Christmas. I'm about three fourths of the way

0:52:13.840 --> 0:52:16.120
<v Speaker 1>through it. It's really good. We'll talk to Peter at

0:52:16.160 --> 0:52:19.919
<v Speaker 1>eleven thirty. Hey, let's talk to Louise in Marie Mont.

0:52:19.960 --> 0:52:21.240
<v Speaker 1>She's been hanging on forever.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, thank you.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm Mike.

0:52:22.880 --> 0:52:24.799
<v Speaker 2>Hi, Louise. Thanks for having me Mike.

0:52:25.520 --> 0:52:29.279
<v Speaker 11>That's a hard act to follow after that food for

0:52:29.520 --> 0:52:31.879
<v Speaker 11>you guys. Way, I want to switch geared to Mike

0:52:32.040 --> 0:52:37.280
<v Speaker 11>and address this unfortunate incident with this coach of the

0:52:37.320 --> 0:52:38.400
<v Speaker 11>Michigan team.

0:52:38.600 --> 0:52:38.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>I want to start out by saying I am certainly

0:52:41.040 --> 0:52:45.360
<v Speaker 11>non attorney, but the company for which I work for

0:52:46.120 --> 0:52:50.840
<v Speaker 11>close to four decades provided me so much sexual harassment training.

0:52:50.960 --> 0:52:53.560
<v Speaker 11>I feel it like I have a PhD in this tackey.

0:52:54.040 --> 0:52:55.799
<v Speaker 11>So that's what I want to address. And if we

0:52:55.840 --> 0:53:01.000
<v Speaker 11>look back, this whole sexual harassment started with Clarence Thomas

0:53:01.040 --> 0:53:05.759
<v Speaker 11>and Anita Hill. Remember that that's when it started. That's

0:53:05.760 --> 0:53:08.919
<v Speaker 11>when they started training us every year. The attorneys came

0:53:08.960 --> 0:53:11.799
<v Speaker 11>from out of town. This that and the other, and

0:53:11.840 --> 0:53:15.000
<v Speaker 11>then we get to proceed up to the Bill Clinton

0:53:15.000 --> 0:53:18.480
<v Speaker 11>Monica Lewinsky. Well, all of a sudden, that didn't you know,

0:53:18.960 --> 0:53:21.359
<v Speaker 11>sexual harassment never came up. And as you know as

0:53:21.400 --> 0:53:26.320
<v Speaker 11>an attorney, Mike, sexual harassment is whenever it's a superior

0:53:26.360 --> 0:53:32.320
<v Speaker 11>subordinate relationship. There's no distinction. Once that situation is there,

0:53:32.760 --> 0:53:35.920
<v Speaker 11>it's considered harassment. Now, I have a great deal of

0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:38.359
<v Speaker 11>pity for this coach and his family, and I've been

0:53:38.400 --> 0:53:41.560
<v Speaker 11>really troubled by this and praying for this family that

0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:44.680
<v Speaker 11>he could get this family back intact. I mean, his

0:53:44.760 --> 0:53:48.200
<v Speaker 11>life has turned upside down. But let's look at the

0:53:48.239 --> 0:53:51.480
<v Speaker 11>female in this situation, which they're now calling a victim.

0:53:51.680 --> 0:53:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what, I don't know any of the facts.

0:53:54.640 --> 0:53:56.719
<v Speaker 1>So if you could enlighten us on that.

0:53:57.200 --> 0:54:00.720
<v Speaker 11>Okay, Well, it's a coach of the mission, she can team,

0:54:01.440 --> 0:54:05.200
<v Speaker 11>very well respected coach and found out that there was

0:54:05.200 --> 0:54:10.080
<v Speaker 11>a two year relationship with one of his subordinates. Now,

0:54:10.120 --> 0:54:15.160
<v Speaker 11>this woman her salary increased between twenty and thirty thousand

0:54:15.280 --> 0:54:19.799
<v Speaker 11>dollars since she began this affair. Now, being in the workplace, Mike,

0:54:19.880 --> 0:54:24.680
<v Speaker 11>we all know these situations are toxic, they're unfair, they

0:54:24.719 --> 0:54:29.880
<v Speaker 11>make everyone else suffer as this woman progresses up in

0:54:29.960 --> 0:54:32.839
<v Speaker 11>the organization, makes more money than them. It's just a

0:54:32.880 --> 0:54:38.560
<v Speaker 11>toxic situation. And I don't know. I just feel that

0:54:38.640 --> 0:54:40.960
<v Speaker 11>the world has to be aware of these types of

0:54:41.000 --> 0:54:45.760
<v Speaker 11>things and stop acting like the female is the victim.

0:54:46.160 --> 0:54:50.520
<v Speaker 11>Don't forget this coach went to her house and threatened

0:54:50.520 --> 0:54:52.719
<v Speaker 11>that he was going to take his life. Well, the

0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:55.680
<v Speaker 11>first call she made was not to the nine to

0:54:55.760 --> 0:54:58.640
<v Speaker 11>one one to try to save the man. Her first

0:54:58.680 --> 0:55:02.840
<v Speaker 11>call is to her to her attorney. If the school

0:55:02.920 --> 0:55:05.840
<v Speaker 11>is probabis. I can tell you, Mike, from my experience,

0:55:06.200 --> 0:55:11.319
<v Speaker 11>the organizations never released the female in this situation. They

0:55:11.400 --> 0:55:14.400
<v Speaker 11>then treat this keep that female there, treat her like

0:55:14.440 --> 0:55:18.759
<v Speaker 11>a China doll. Everyone else in the organization suffers, and

0:55:19.000 --> 0:55:21.799
<v Speaker 11>you know isn't treated the same way this person is.

0:55:21.920 --> 0:55:24.759
<v Speaker 11>This is a really bad situation. So I think you

0:55:24.840 --> 0:55:27.440
<v Speaker 11>need to study up. I thought, yeah, it was pretty recent.

0:55:27.560 --> 0:55:29.760
<v Speaker 11>It just happened with the past couple of days.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, and there was some uh, some undercurrent of

0:55:32.920 --> 0:55:33.840
<v Speaker 1>something gonna happen.

0:55:34.000 --> 0:55:34.800
<v Speaker 2>It did happen.

0:55:35.120 --> 0:55:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I am gonna bone up on it, Luise, but I

0:55:37.000 --> 0:55:39.200
<v Speaker 1>really appreciate you bringing us up to date.

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<v Speaker 11>Right, Okay, Mike, have a good Christmas. If I don't

0:55:42.760 --> 0:55:43.680
<v Speaker 11>get to call in.

0:55:43.760 --> 0:55:47.799
<v Speaker 1>Before that, you too, please try to call though. I

0:55:47.880 --> 0:55:50.279
<v Speaker 1>love her, She's a great caller. Yeah, you know, I

0:55:50.320 --> 0:55:55.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know the facts of that situation. Again, I'm not

0:55:55.120 --> 0:55:59.920
<v Speaker 1>without sympathy for the coach. Uh. I had thought, just

0:56:00.120 --> 0:56:03.560
<v Speaker 1>listening to it that perhaps it was a situation where

0:56:03.560 --> 0:56:06.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe she was a minor or an intern or something.

0:56:06.600 --> 0:56:08.680
<v Speaker 2>But we'll have to see what comes out.

0:56:08.800 --> 0:56:13.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, a college, especially like Michigan, they're not gonna

0:56:13.360 --> 0:56:15.759
<v Speaker 1>want to, you know, put up with something like that,

0:56:15.840 --> 0:56:18.240
<v Speaker 1>so they'll pull the trigger, I suppose, and they did

0:56:18.800 --> 0:56:23.200
<v Speaker 1>pretty early on him. But I have sympathy for everyone

0:56:23.440 --> 0:56:26.439
<v Speaker 1>involved in that situation. Hey, we can get a quick

0:56:26.440 --> 0:56:30.799
<v Speaker 1>one here. How's about r J? Hey, RJ? You got

0:56:30.800 --> 0:56:31.640
<v Speaker 1>two minutes, buddy?

0:56:31.640 --> 0:56:34.640
<v Speaker 2>How you doing good? Are you good?

0:56:35.080 --> 0:56:38.640
<v Speaker 3>Call? Call you about the Abrego Garcia case. I think

0:56:38.640 --> 0:56:41.000
<v Speaker 3>you've heard all that. Yes, he was released from the

0:56:41.160 --> 0:56:45.240
<v Speaker 3>tension I saw, and the media seems to be treating

0:56:45.320 --> 0:56:47.120
<v Speaker 3>him like he's a free to hostage.

0:56:47.239 --> 0:56:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh of course.

0:56:48.520 --> 0:56:52.719
<v Speaker 3>Interesting. Uh, And I'm just wondering what's the status of

0:56:52.800 --> 0:56:55.120
<v Speaker 3>his of his situation, because I thought he was in

0:56:55.160 --> 0:56:56.040
<v Speaker 3>the process.

0:56:55.680 --> 0:56:57.680
<v Speaker 4>Of being prosecuted.

0:56:58.120 --> 0:57:01.719
<v Speaker 3>By uh, you know, the federal of the Feds. And

0:57:02.320 --> 0:57:05.439
<v Speaker 3>I just wonder that's still on, isn't it. I mean,

0:57:05.600 --> 0:57:10.920
<v Speaker 3>he's he's freed temporarily, he's still uh the you know,

0:57:10.960 --> 0:57:14.279
<v Speaker 3>he's still possibly going to get you know, tried and

0:57:14.320 --> 0:57:17.120
<v Speaker 3>for this, for this smuggling issue.

0:57:17.360 --> 0:57:19.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And that's my understanding too.

0:57:19.440 --> 0:57:24.320
<v Speaker 1>I just I heard it break yesterday, obviously remembered the name. Uh.

0:57:25.400 --> 0:57:29.080
<v Speaker 1>But the prosecution is not going to go away. I

0:57:29.080 --> 0:57:32.280
<v Speaker 1>guess he might who knows what he'll do, but that

0:57:32.400 --> 0:57:35.440
<v Speaker 1>prosecution is not going to go away at least. I

0:57:35.640 --> 0:57:38.600
<v Speaker 1>think it would be highly unlikely that the US attorney

0:57:38.600 --> 0:57:39.440
<v Speaker 1>would dismiss it.

0:57:40.520 --> 0:57:43.400
<v Speaker 3>I think, I think what happens in these cases is

0:57:44.040 --> 0:57:47.080
<v Speaker 3>it is the hope is that it takes a long

0:57:47.160 --> 0:57:51.280
<v Speaker 3>time for him to get to to trial, right, and

0:57:51.440 --> 0:57:54.080
<v Speaker 3>the case and a new you know, maybe a new

0:57:54.120 --> 0:57:58.160
<v Speaker 3>administration comes into comes into office after the president is

0:57:59.000 --> 0:58:01.480
<v Speaker 3>is the longer there isn't it? And and and the

0:58:01.760 --> 0:58:05.560
<v Speaker 3>uh maybe the Democrats win. I hope that doesn't happen.

0:58:05.680 --> 0:58:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Please decide to drop the case. Yep.

0:58:09.240 --> 0:58:10.320
<v Speaker 3>I think that's the hope.

0:58:10.640 --> 0:58:13.880
<v Speaker 1>It's I don't think it could be you know what,

0:58:14.000 --> 0:58:19.040
<v Speaker 1>there are too many uh, grants of pardons clemency on

0:58:19.120 --> 0:58:21.640
<v Speaker 1>both sides of the isle, I think, And you're right,

0:58:21.680 --> 0:58:24.760
<v Speaker 1>a different administration would probably see it differently, but we're

0:58:24.800 --> 0:58:26.600
<v Speaker 1>just gonna have to wait and see. Uh.

0:58:26.720 --> 0:58:29.880
<v Speaker 3>But that's that's the case of all these and all

0:58:29.920 --> 0:58:33.840
<v Speaker 3>these all these situations really right, And that's my concern.

0:58:33.920 --> 0:58:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Is a waste the time it takes is something they

0:58:36.640 --> 0:58:41.880
<v Speaker 3>rely on, I get it to avoid uh, you know,

0:58:42.080 --> 0:58:44.440
<v Speaker 3>having to take responsibility for these situations.

0:58:44.440 --> 0:58:46.800
<v Speaker 2>I get it. Hey, unfortunate around of time, r J.

0:58:47.000 --> 0:58:50.400
<v Speaker 1>But thanks, thanks for the call, Thanks for the subject too. Yeah,

0:58:50.400 --> 0:58:52.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to bone up on that and see

0:58:52.080 --> 0:58:53.560
<v Speaker 1>what the deal is. Hey, we got to take a

0:58:53.560 --> 0:58:54.560
<v Speaker 1>break for the news button.

0:58:54.600 --> 0:58:57.960
<v Speaker 2>We get back. I'm going right back to the calls.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Allen, seven hundred wl News Radio seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Gallon Saturday Midday closing moments of saying, well, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what. Cincinnati's favorite author one Peter Bronson. He's

0:59:12.400 --> 0:59:15.520
<v Speaker 1>out with a new book just in time for Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>His new book is entitled Magical Mystery Tour, Murder, Mystery

0:59:21.400 --> 0:59:25.240
<v Speaker 1>and Buried History. It's a collection of five short stories.

0:59:25.600 --> 0:59:27.960
<v Speaker 1>And also there's a section in back I think about

0:59:27.960 --> 0:59:33.440
<v Speaker 1>ten different historical places that Peter has found out about

0:59:33.520 --> 0:59:36.560
<v Speaker 1>that would be good places to visit. I'm definitely going

0:59:36.640 --> 0:59:39.400
<v Speaker 1>to take him up on it. Peter, thanks for coming.

0:59:39.080 --> 0:59:41.200
<v Speaker 10>In my pleasure. Mike always good to be with you

0:59:41.360 --> 0:59:44.240
<v Speaker 10>appreciate it. Hey, just kind of give us an I

0:59:44.320 --> 0:59:47.600
<v Speaker 10>outlined it a little bit. But is what the book's about? Okay,

0:59:47.640 --> 0:59:51.160
<v Speaker 10>well this time. In my previous books, I've done longer

0:59:51.320 --> 0:59:54.520
<v Speaker 10>form stories about the Cincinnati during the Civil War, or

0:59:54.520 --> 0:59:58.320
<v Speaker 10>the mob in northern Kentucky, or the first settlers in Cincinnati.

0:59:58.480 --> 1:00:00.800
<v Speaker 2>But you know what my favorite Peter Ronson book is

1:00:00.840 --> 1:00:04.360
<v Speaker 2>I think probably behind the lines the three Yeah I'm

1:00:04.680 --> 1:00:08.000
<v Speaker 2>one riots. I shouldn't get going on it. But is

1:00:08.000 --> 1:00:10.320
<v Speaker 2>it still for sale? Oh? It is, Yes, you can

1:00:10.320 --> 1:00:11.440
<v Speaker 2>get that on my website.

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<v Speaker 1>The only, the only, fair and accurate account of those riots.

1:00:17.080 --> 1:00:18.080
<v Speaker 1>And it's aftermath.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh, thank you so much, you know, and it's it's

1:00:20.000 --> 1:00:23.400
<v Speaker 10>timely now with the city of Cincinnati paying people.

1:00:23.120 --> 1:00:28.440
<v Speaker 1>To riot, yeah, to the tune of about eight million bucks. Unbelievable,

1:00:29.840 --> 1:00:32.160
<v Speaker 1>only in the city of Cincinnati, only Cincinnati.

1:00:32.240 --> 1:00:34.800
<v Speaker 10>But anyway, back to the book, so this one, I'm

1:00:34.840 --> 1:00:38.560
<v Speaker 10>doing a different approach. I'm doing five short stories. They're

1:00:38.600 --> 1:00:41.200
<v Speaker 10>all in the same kind of wheelhouse that I like,

1:00:41.520 --> 1:00:48.880
<v Speaker 10>which is very local Cincinnati, southern Southwest Ohio, stories about

1:00:48.880 --> 1:00:51.000
<v Speaker 10>our history. Things that that kind of are in the

1:00:51.040 --> 1:00:53.120
<v Speaker 10>category of when you read that, you go, who knew?

1:00:53.640 --> 1:00:56.920
<v Speaker 10>I know, who knew? I know that we had a

1:00:56.960 --> 1:01:00.440
<v Speaker 10>grave robbery in eighteen seventy eight when the son of

1:01:00.480 --> 1:01:03.440
<v Speaker 10>a president was taken from his grave, you know, night

1:01:03.560 --> 1:01:04.360
<v Speaker 10>he was buried.

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<v Speaker 2>I like local history, try to keep up on I

1:01:08.000 --> 1:01:10.640
<v Speaker 2>had no idea. I mean that great. Can you kind of.

1:01:10.640 --> 1:01:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Give the listeners just that story in particular, just a

1:01:14.080 --> 1:01:15.480
<v Speaker 1>little bit about what it's about.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 10>So William Henry Harrison, our ninth president, had a son,

1:01:19.480 --> 1:01:23.520
<v Speaker 10>John Scott Harrison, who was unique in American history because

1:01:23.520 --> 1:01:25.480
<v Speaker 10>not only was he the son of a president, he

1:01:25.520 --> 1:01:28.560
<v Speaker 10>was the father of a president, Benjamin Harrison.

1:01:28.120 --> 1:01:29.200
<v Speaker 2>And he was a congressman.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, yeah, yeah, So John Scott Harrison in his older years,

1:01:33.400 --> 1:01:37.720
<v Speaker 10>he was very respected, beloved. Grandfatherly died suddenly in his sleep.

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<v Speaker 10>The family goes to Congress Green Cemetery, which, by the way,

1:01:41.040 --> 1:01:44.200
<v Speaker 10>is right across the road from the William Henry Harrison Monument.

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<v Speaker 10>And it's one of those places on my history tours

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<v Speaker 10>that's all that that it's a great place. It's just

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<v Speaker 10>really John Cleve Simms of the Sims Purchase is also

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<v Speaker 10>buried there. Okay, so back to the story, John Scott

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<v Speaker 10>Harrison is buried, His family mourns him, does a service

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<v Speaker 10>by the grave side, and the next day they come

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<v Speaker 10>back very next day for another funeral of another young

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<v Speaker 10>man that they knew that was close to their family,

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<v Speaker 10>and they look at their father's grave and it's been opened,

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<v Speaker 10>it's been torn apart, and the body is gone. How

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<v Speaker 10>outrageous would that be? Absolutely? I mean, here is a

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<v Speaker 10>son of a president. But in those days it was

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<v Speaker 10>not uncommon for these guys. They were called body snatchers.

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<v Speaker 10>They were called grave robbers, one of my favorite terms.

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<v Speaker 10>They called them resurrection men. And they would come and

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<v Speaker 10>steal a body and they would strip the clothes and

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<v Speaker 10>jewelry off and take away the gold, teeth, whatever they

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<v Speaker 10>could harvest from his body and sell the clothes. So

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<v Speaker 10>if you're looking for a bargain, beware of bargain. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 10>they wash them. Well, I don't think so. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 10>think they probably reaped.

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<v Speaker 1>But these people that are stealing the bodies, correct me

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm wrong. They were students the predecessor, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>of you see medical school.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, so these guys were.

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<v Speaker 10>It was a regular profession to be a grave robber

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<v Speaker 10>and their main client, of their only client in most cases,

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<v Speaker 10>was the Ohio Medical College. But the ring that was

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<v Speaker 10>stealing bodies in Cincinnati had such a reach. They were

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<v Speaker 10>stealing bodies all over central Ohio and servicing Columbus Cleveland

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<v Speaker 10>all the way to ann Arbor, and that's where they

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<v Speaker 10>found one of the bodies that was taken from Congress

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<v Speaker 10>Green Cemetery in ann Arbor.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 10>And these guys would sell these bodies to the medical

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<v Speaker 10>students because in those days, nobody donated their body to science,

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<v Speaker 10>so they needed fresh corpses to practice on. Practicing on

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<v Speaker 10>people that were under anesthesia was frowned.

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<v Speaker 2>Upon, but they did it nonetheless.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean there were just the ethics and the morals

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<v Speaker 10>of the medical profession in those days is appalling.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I had no idea. I had no idea that

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<v Speaker 1>it was going on locally here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, tell us, I know how but tell the

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<v Speaker 2>listeners how that ended up.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, John Scott, Harrison's son took on the responsibility of

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<v Speaker 10>finding the body snatchers who took his father. He hired

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<v Speaker 10>the Pinkertons from Chicago to come assist and detectives from

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<v Speaker 10>Cincinnati police, and they found a report that was in

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<v Speaker 10>the Inquirer, one of those little gospy items, that said

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<v Speaker 10>that a strange, long sheet wrapped body shaped object was

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<v Speaker 10>unloaded in front of the Medical College in the wee

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<v Speaker 10>hours of the morning. And so they went to the

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<v Speaker 10>Medical College. They searched all of the floors. When they

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<v Speaker 10>got to the top floor, they find a pit that

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<v Speaker 10>is a shaft that goes all the way down to

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<v Speaker 10>the first floor, five floors, and there's a rope in

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<v Speaker 10>a winch. Yes, yeah, And they start turning the winch.

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<v Speaker 10>It up comes the son of the president. He is

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<v Speaker 10>completely stripped of his clothing. He's been cut open so

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<v Speaker 10>that the body could drain. It just horrified. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 10>at first they didn't know if this body was their father.

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<v Speaker 10>And then they took it off the rope and laid

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<v Speaker 10>it down and the son.

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<v Speaker 2>Just lost it.

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<v Speaker 10>There's his father, yep, And he was about to be

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<v Speaker 10>dissected and yeah, cut into parts.

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<v Speaker 2>They would. It's just a horrifying nobody.

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<v Speaker 1>And like I said, I follow a local history to

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<v Speaker 1>the extent I can't. I don't think anybody knew about

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<v Speaker 1>that at all, you know, until you've started to write

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Also, probably my favorite and there the Black

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<v Speaker 1>Widow serial killer. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually recognized some names in there. Oh did you good? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>One of them Walter Hart.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh yeah, Walter famous case Harness detective.

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Pharmacy is and has been forever at the corner

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<v Speaker 1>of Glen Way and Cleeswarsaw, that right, independent Pharmacy. I'n't

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<v Speaker 1>been in there in years, but when I did go

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<v Speaker 1>in there, they had a bust of Walter Hart. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what his obviously the Heart family, but exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what the relationship was. And then when I was in

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<v Speaker 1>the police academy, they told us about he was killed

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<v Speaker 1>in the line of dude.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, what a sad story. I know he was. He

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<v Speaker 2>had been working with Detective Tom Ferrager. He must have

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<v Speaker 2>been something.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh he still holds the record for the most cases

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<v Speaker 10>cleared and solved murder cases. And those two probably saw

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<v Speaker 10>stuff that we just would never want to see and

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<v Speaker 10>would never recover from. Heart finally had enough and took

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<v Speaker 10>a desk job, and unfortunately he stopped at a bar

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<v Speaker 10>on his way home from work one night after he'd

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<v Speaker 10>taken this desk job to get out of the line

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<v Speaker 10>of this this holorifying stuff, and arm robbers came in

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<v Speaker 10>and herded all the clients, the customers into a restroom. Well,

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<v Speaker 10>Heart was carrying a weapon concealed and he came out

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<v Speaker 10>of the restroom and started shooting, and that's how they

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<v Speaker 10>killed him. Yeah, I mean that what a crazy courageous

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<v Speaker 10>thing to do, you know, as a cop, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>But but there's a little West Side connection there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Also out called Dudley Alcohol. Yes, that's a name that

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty prominent in Cincinnati judicial circles. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>he was the prosecutor and he was a judge. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Pete out Cault was a long time magistrate here. And

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<v Speaker 1>the reason I mentioned it is out in Sharonville on

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<v Speaker 1>Mostella Road is the Reserve Center. Oh yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>was in the National Guard, right, that's well in Army

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<v Speaker 1>two Army was in the one thirty fifth jag Detach

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<v Speaker 1>named after out call yep and they got.

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<v Speaker 2>A big plaque to him and everything. So that was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of cool to do well.

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<v Speaker 10>And you know, that was one of those little things

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<v Speaker 10>that is so fun about researching history. Because I was

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<v Speaker 10>doing this thing about the serial killer and big Tom

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<v Speaker 10>Feriger and I look in and I'm thinking that prosecutor,

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<v Speaker 10>let's take a look at him. So I started digging

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<v Speaker 10>into and I find out this guy Dudley Outcault.

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<v Speaker 1>He was.

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<v Speaker 10>He flew in World War One with Eddie Rickenbacker's hat

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<v Speaker 10>and the ring squadron, which had the most celebrated aces

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<v Speaker 10>in the entire war. He came home, he served in

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<v Speaker 10>Rickenbacker's pit crew at the Indy five hundred and even

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<v Speaker 10>drove some laps at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>This is our county prosecutor. Unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 10>And he was such a cool guy.

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<v Speaker 2>And how he.

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<v Speaker 10>Died, Oh, and how he died so sad. He was

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<v Speaker 10>a great pilot. He went back in World War Two

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<v Speaker 10>enlisted again. He had to overcome a health problem. In

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<v Speaker 10>the day that he was cleared healthwise, he signed up

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<v Speaker 10>to become part of the Army Air Corps and he

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<v Speaker 10>was ferrying B twenty four I think, and he was

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<v Speaker 10>right near Washington, d C. Almost to the airport when

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<v Speaker 10>the whole thing exploded and he was never found. He

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<v Speaker 10>just was vaporized.

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<v Speaker 1>And they don't explain that in the thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been at the reserve center in years. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>explain how he passed away. I told Peter alcohol and

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<v Speaker 1>I maybe he's a grandson, great grant. He's retired now

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<v Speaker 1>and he kind of the family knew about it. I

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<v Speaker 1>knew about the plaque and everything like that. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of fun when you're reading something like your

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<v Speaker 1>history books and you see something that, hey, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know where that is. Yeah, yeah, but can.

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<v Speaker 1>We I'm gonna make sure I give you enough time, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>say where we can get your book? Wanted to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you if you could finish the story about ms Hahn and.

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<v Speaker 2>What oh that was interesting.

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<v Speaker 10>So she was the first serial killer, although they didn't

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<v Speaker 10>call them serial killers back then, just a sensational murder

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<v Speaker 10>in the late thirties, yes, thirty eight, thirty seven, thirty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>She was.

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<v Speaker 10>She probably killed more than fourteen sixteen people. And so

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<v Speaker 10>she would cozy up to these elderly, lonely German immigrants

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<v Speaker 10>men almost exclusively, and pretty soon they tell their friends

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<v Speaker 10>they had a new girlfriend and they were so excited

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<v Speaker 10>they turned over their house and their savings and the

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<v Speaker 10>next thing you know, she comes over and cooks for them,

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<v Speaker 10>and what do you know, they died. Well, it might

1:10:12.200 --> 1:10:14.920
<v Speaker 10>have been the arsenic that she put in exactly, she

1:10:15.080 --> 1:10:19.040
<v Speaker 10>was poisoning. And that's a horrible, horrible death. It's just wow.

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<v Speaker 10>I couldn't believe it. And so she was finally caught

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<v Speaker 10>and it was done with probably one of the very

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<v Speaker 10>first cases of forensic medical science. And the Cincinnati Police

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<v Speaker 10>had one of the first in the country, that's right,

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<v Speaker 10>collaborations with the UC Medical School and their Department of Forensics,

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<v Speaker 10>and they teamed up to solve this case. And it's

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<v Speaker 10>really stunning how it's like CSI. Way before CSI yep,

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<v Speaker 10>nineteen thirty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>There were four I think victims that were tried in

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<v Speaker 1>Amum County and he was she was convicted of all.

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<v Speaker 2>Of them, I believe, uh huh. And she died in

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<v Speaker 2>the electric chair. She did.

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<v Speaker 10>She was the first woman to be put to death

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<v Speaker 10>in the electric chair in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>And just it's a fascinating story. It is just the

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know looking for the right word here, that

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<v Speaker 1>the lack of empathy, her heartless victims.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you're right. They were all old men.

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<v Speaker 10>All lonely, sad old men who missed Germany. And one

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<v Speaker 10>of her tricks was to come and knock on their

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<v Speaker 10>door and say she was a long lost niece, right,

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<v Speaker 10>who had discovered they had some kind of inheritance coming

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<v Speaker 10>from the family in Germany, and she was here to

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<v Speaker 10>help them get it.

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<v Speaker 2>And so she Oh, she was just what a piece

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<v Speaker 2>of work.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, Wow, your favorite story out of all of them,

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<v Speaker 1>if you cared.

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<v Speaker 10>To weigh in on that, you know, I kind of

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<v Speaker 10>really liked doing westerns. Yeah, I always loved westerns, and

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<v Speaker 10>I really liked the story of James W.

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<v Speaker 2>Denver, a Civil War general named after it.

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<v Speaker 10>The city of Denver, Colorado, is named after a man

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<v Speaker 10>from our own community who grew up in Wilmington, Ohio,

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<v Speaker 10>who knew and he led a wagon train on the

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<v Speaker 10>Oregon Trail, which would be incredibly courageous in those days,

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<v Speaker 10>and he went out for the gold Rush.

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<v Speaker 2>He fought a duel.

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<v Speaker 10>In this duel, he killed a newspaper editor that come

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<v Speaker 10>a little close to home.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, but this editor, this.

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<v Speaker 10>Editor had a chance first shot missed and Denver fired

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<v Speaker 10>in the air to let him have a second chance

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<v Speaker 10>at life.

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<v Speaker 2>And he said, no, I insist we continue this duel. Wow.

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<v Speaker 10>And Denver said, okay, if that's why you want it.

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<v Speaker 10>And Denver was a crack shot.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, I mean, that's not the guy

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<v Speaker 1>you'd want to be coming up against it.

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<v Speaker 10>No, No, his picture is just it's compelling when you

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<v Speaker 10>look at that picture of him, just a guy you

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<v Speaker 10>would not want a trifle.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>And he also became the governor of the Kansas Territory

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<v Speaker 10>during Bleeding Kansas, right, which, if you know your history,

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<v Speaker 10>was the dress rehearsal for the Civil War, and he

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<v Speaker 10>encountered all kinds of brutal massacres and raids. And one

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<v Speaker 10>of the worst of the brutal psychopaths in Kansas at

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<v Speaker 10>that time was John Oh Boy. John Brown, who is

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<v Speaker 10>elevated as a hero in the abolitionist community, was a

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<v Speaker 10>psychopathic murderer. He killed dozens of people, and he did

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<v Speaker 10>it just in horrible ways and all in the name

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<v Speaker 10>of God.

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<v Speaker 2>At the time.

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<v Speaker 10>For him, he was a diluted nuts yep, cold blooded

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<v Speaker 10>psycho you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just so much good history in here. Two

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<v Speaker 1>final questions, got a couple of minutes left. What's next

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<v Speaker 1>if you know or care to let us know? And second,

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<v Speaker 1>how does someone.

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<v Speaker 2>Get the book? Well, I'll answer the second one. First.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm gonna actually I'm doing a signing today at Joseph

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<v Speaker 10>Beth Booksellers in Rookwood, and I'm going to be there

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<v Speaker 10>from one to three, so come on by and I

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<v Speaker 10>can personalize your book if you want to give one

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<v Speaker 10>to somebody for Christmas, and all of my books will

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<v Speaker 10>be there, so there's that. I'll be there from one

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<v Speaker 10>to three at Joseph Beth Booksellers. And then also if

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<v Speaker 10>you want signed copies, go to my website which is

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<v Speaker 10>Chili Dog Press, and there's still plenty of time to

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<v Speaker 10>mail those out before Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>Right also available at all the other.

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<v Speaker 10>Bookstores such as Barnes and Noble and so forth, and

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<v Speaker 10>on Amazon.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 10>I encourage people to support the local bookstores. I like

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<v Speaker 10>to see that. I also like to see sales come

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<v Speaker 10>to my website because I can stay in touch and

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<v Speaker 10>let people know right away when they have a new

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<v Speaker 10>book coming out, and they seem to like that. And

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<v Speaker 10>as I was telling you before we started a lot

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<v Speaker 10>of people that are my customers on the website are

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<v Speaker 10>mailing these books out of state to Cincinnatians who miss

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<v Speaker 10>Cincinnati and love reading about our history.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and you keep them coming too. Got about thirty seconds?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you care to say what you're working on now

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<v Speaker 1>or well?

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<v Speaker 10>One of the things I've found is when I do

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<v Speaker 10>these books, I learned so much. When I go out

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<v Speaker 10>and do speaking, so I'm available, I'll be doing a

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<v Speaker 10>lot of this all winner for all kinds of groups,

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<v Speaker 10>service clubs, women's clubs, book clubs, whoever gathers. I go

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<v Speaker 10>out and do a presentation on my series of books,

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<v Speaker 10>and I learned the most amazing stories. Raise a hand

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<v Speaker 10>in the back and say did you know? And I'll

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<v Speaker 10>be who knew? That's a fantastic story. Yeah, So I

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<v Speaker 10>jump in and I write that down, and so I may.

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<v Speaker 10>I kind of like this short story thing, right, gives

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<v Speaker 10>me a chance to tackle a lot of topics. And

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<v Speaker 10>I think people like reading short stories because they can kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of dive then and jump out.

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<v Speaker 1>Every one of your books is an easy read. Magical

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<v Speaker 1>history tour. I think I referred to it as magical

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<v Speaker 1>mystery tour.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people do that. I think that was

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<v Speaker 2>the Beatles.

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<v Speaker 10>I hear the Beatles Magical Mystery Tour song every time

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<v Speaker 10>I say it.

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<v Speaker 1>Great book, easy read, be a great Christmas gift. Really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you coming in my pleasure, Mike. It's always good

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<v Speaker 1>to be with you. I love the work you're doing here.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I appreciate it. Hey, listen, we're out of time,

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<v Speaker 1>which means I'm out of here. Be back next Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>for Saturday Midday. Mike Allen seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you own a small business. A seismic shift is coming.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time to get super short coming soon.

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<v Speaker 5>Texting roles are recurring to me to text marketing messages.

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<v Speaker 9>It's a frequency, various mesage dat reads me apply for

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<v Speaker 9>reply