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Speaker 1: This week you probably saw it. Australia, we'll tell you

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Speaker 1: what took some guts. They banned social media for kids

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Speaker 1: Australia has implemented a world first law that effectively bans

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Speaker 1: not the children or their parents. Just some details of

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Speaker 1: serious or repeated breaches. They want to age verification on

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Speaker 1: no penalties for the teens or the parents. And the goal,

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Speaker 1: such as harmful content, misogynistic material, content promoting eating disorders

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Speaker 1: little bit later, cyberbullying, huge, addictive decision, addictive design features.

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Speaker 1: So the Nation of Australia putting the foot down on

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Speaker 1: Congratulations to Austria for doing that and having the guts

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Speaker 1: I just wouldn't. And you know you can say, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I feel sorry for these kids today, and I

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Speaker 1: Here's just some of the key concerns that had been

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Speaker 1: Brain development basically says that you're on this social media

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Speaker 1: It doesn't really get much worse than that, does it.

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Speaker 1: There's a lady, her name is Emily Jackis Jaksh. She's

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Speaker 2: Mother of an eleven year old boy.

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Speaker 1: Here's what she writes, pretty basic and to the point,

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Speaker 1: Social media is destroying our young people. Close quote. I'll

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Speaker 1: a complete lack of resilience. It goes on quite a bit,

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Speaker 1: you know. She talks about her eleven year old son.

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Speaker 1: She says, last year, my then eleven year old son

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Speaker 1: He was begging me for TikTok Snapchat because all of

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Speaker 1: that was her wake up call. Now. Ms Jacks suggests

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Speaker 1: It's hard to disagree with that. No social media until

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Speaker 1: I don't know how teachers put up with it, the

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Speaker 1: And her last point is interesting and I think accurate.

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Speaker 1: She says, give kids more independence in the real world.

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Speaker 1: Good advice, I'm certain. Okay, Fortunately, you're not gonna believe this.

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Speaker 1: There is some bipartisan action in Congress to deal with

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Speaker 1: bipartisan action, which we never see anymore. This issue is

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Speaker 1: Taylor made for bipartisan action on this. There's no liberal

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Speaker 1: in my humble opinion, the real damage that this is

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Speaker 1: doing the kids. Okay, here's a couple things cooking in Congress.

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Speaker 1: The Kids Online Safety Act KOSA. This bill, sponsored by

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Speaker 1: KOSA focuses on providing miners and parents with safeguards such

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Speaker 1: as option to disable addictive features and opt out of

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Speaker 2: Say that five times fis.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know obviously that could help, but

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Speaker 1: I think a total ban like Australia is what we need.

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Speaker 1: It's called the Kids Off Social Media Act COSMA, that

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Speaker 1: our own Ted Cruz. This by bartisan bill was reintroduced

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Speaker 1: More direct approach by prohibiting children under thirteen from creating

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Speaker 1: or maintaining social media accounts. I like that beginning algorithmic

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Speaker 1: recommendation systems for users under seventeen, requiring schools to block

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Speaker 1: some action on this, as there should be. Again, it's

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Speaker 1: good to see that it's by partisan. Here's what I

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Speaker 1: to do it now. Watch Australia. Keep an eye on Australia,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to to see how this is working

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Speaker 1: over there. There will be bookoo challenges to it, there's

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Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Probably already has been. But I

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Speaker 1: love the Aussies. My daughter's living over there now, but

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Speaker 1: let them be the guinea pig.

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Speaker 2: For this thing.

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Speaker 1: I think we need to enact the cosma we just

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Speaker 1: act Cosma is the better one. That's the one sponsored

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Speaker 2: Hey, good morning, Steve morning, How are you. I'm good?

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Speaker 5: I just had wanted to get your thoughts on the

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Speaker 1: Not, And I'm talking about a band for those sixteen

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you know at sixteen obviously you can't vote. There's

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I just thought since there was like a big,

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Speaker 2: They might and I unders contact with.

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Speaker 1: I do understand that, but I don't know. I mean

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Speaker 1: really harming our kids. I don't think it takes too

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Speaker 4: By I agree.

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Speaker 5: I have the same issue with my kids as well.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I appreciate sure feedback. That just popped in my

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Steve, call anytime, all right, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk too. How's about Barry up in Miamisburg. Hey,

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Speaker 1: good morning, Barry, Hey, good morning.

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Speaker 6: What'd you got when you and I were in college

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Speaker 2: You know what?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, some of us who had really poor not taking skills,

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Speaker 6: they have banned tape recorders. They're trying to ban phones

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Speaker 6: My question is what are the schools and the government

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Speaker 1: Uh, there have been proposals we talked about them a

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Speaker 6: I'll never allow that because they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 6: That's what's all about. The government doesn't want you to

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Speaker 1: Well you know what, and I guess I understand what

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Speaker 1: Is this whole social media for these teenagers and you know,

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Speaker 2: But I guess we have to see how that goes.

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Speaker 2: Hey, let's talk to Keith. Hey, good morning, Keith.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Mike, how are you. I'm good, big fan of yours.

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Speaker 4: The prosecutors officuely needs more people like you in it

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Speaker 2: Thanks.

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Speaker 4: But my thing with the social media ban for kids is,

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Speaker 4: and you get Democrats a weapon to use against Republicans. Like, honestly,

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Speaker 4: Republicans stand for free speech right now and they need

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Speaker 4: You know, one, get rid of cell phones in school.

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Speaker 4: say that, you know, we're going to videotape these classrooms

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Speaker 2: You know, they're going crazy in Europe.

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Speaker 2: That is frightening. I mean, in a lot of look

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Speaker 4: And look at look at the numbers of people who

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Speaker 1: They're going down to crapper and the President is not

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Speaker 1: I see your point, Keith, and I appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Let me know it.

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Speaker 4: Hey, thank you, Mike big fan, Okay, thank you?

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Speaker 1: If Republicans hancho this thing, and it looks like, honestly

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Speaker 7: I haven't heard anyone touch on the subject of why

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Speaker 7: and if you didn't there was a consequence. There's no

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Speaker 2: I got it.

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Speaker 8: They do what.

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Speaker 7: Girlever they want and there's no consequences because you might

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Speaker 2: No, I got that. I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't the case in my house and wasn't the

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Speaker 1: from him and gave him a flip phone. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: does have to start with the parents, and I get that,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know. There are many that think, and obviously,

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Speaker 1: you know, whatever the legislator is in Australia thought that, hey,

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Speaker 1: this is such a bad problem. Yes, parents, obviously we

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Speaker 1: need your help, but we got to do something.

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Speaker 2: I guess that's the thought. I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, this this all broke down, Mike when

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Speaker 7: it came to the family unit breaking down.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 7: You know how many kids today have a mom and

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Speaker 7: a dad that sit and have dinner every night. If

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Speaker 7: I'm in a restaurant, now I'm a senior citizen. If

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Speaker 7: I'm in a restaurant and a family sits down, the

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Speaker 7: first thing you see is all four of them take

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Speaker 7: out the cellphone. Ye I have no problem going to

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Speaker 7: that table and say, listen, Before you know it, these

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Speaker 7: kids are going to be out of your house and

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Speaker 7: you don't even know what color their eyes are.

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Speaker 2: That's a really good did you speak up though?

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Speaker 8: Oh yes, I always do.

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Speaker 1: What what?

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Speaker 2: What's the response that you get from some of the parents.

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Speaker 7: Some of them just look at me and smile, and

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Speaker 7: some of them say thank you.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 7: And if there's a family in a restaurant where their

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Speaker 7: children are well behaved, I always compliment them because I

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Speaker 7: didn't go out to dinner to put up with your

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Speaker 7: brat running around my table.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love Joe my mom, God rest

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Speaker 1: her soul. She wouldn't have tolerated any of that crap.

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Speaker 3: I mean, no way, no, I don't.

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Speaker 7: I don't tolerate.

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Speaker 6: I love children.

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Speaker 7: I've got five grandsons. My youngest grandson is fourteen, and

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Speaker 7: he is so smart on that cell phone, but he

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Speaker 7: also has a life outside that cell phone. We have

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Speaker 7: a date every Saturday night. We go out. That cell

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Speaker 7: phone is put away.

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Speaker 2: Good, good parents, not to do that.

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Speaker 7: It's gonna start. It's gonna start the home and we

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Speaker 7: got to quit putting all this crap on the government.

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Speaker 7: Take responsibility for your children. You had them, they didn't

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Speaker 7: ask to be born.

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Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. Thank you for the call, Patty.

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Speaker 1: I'm bumping up against the news.

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Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, I hear what she's saying, But I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I guess.

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Speaker 1: I just think that the problem has become so acute

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Speaker 1: that maybe it is appropriate for the government to step

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Speaker 1: in and give parents a hand. I guess because the

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Speaker 1: Emily Jackis was her name, the HR consultant that I

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Speaker 1: was quoting. She makes the point that, man, these kids

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Speaker 1: are tech savvy.

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Speaker 2: They can get.

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Speaker 1: Around all this stuff. So, you know, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have to wait and see. I just kind

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Speaker 1: of wanted to open the discussion on this. I do

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Speaker 1: want to watch closely how it works in Australia because

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Speaker 1: I just think something's got to happen because we're losing

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Speaker 1: a generation. Hey, we got to take a break. But

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Speaker 1: I do want to tell those people that are on

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Speaker 1: hold and somebody that might want to be a part

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Speaker 1: of the show. I have open lines from ten thirty

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Speaker 1: to eleven o'clock, So seven four nine, seven thousand, one,

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Speaker 1: eight hundred, the big one are the numbers if you

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Speaker 1: want to be a part. Mike Allen, Saturday Midday. But

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Speaker 1: before we go, I want to let you know Jayannis

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Speaker 1: Heisel up next. I believe she was on the ground

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota this week with all that craziness. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: to Janis when we get back from the news. Mike Allen,

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Speaker 1: Saturday Midday.

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Speaker 9: It's the season for connecting to our community, our traditions,

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Speaker 9: and each other.

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Speaker 2: That's why Alta Fiber is here giving you peace of mind.

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Speaker 2: With internet you can.

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Speaker 1: Do news radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday

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Speaker 1: Midday second hour of saying Well, I'll tell you what

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Speaker 1: we've got. Increased investigatory action relative the unbelievably massive fraud,

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Speaker 1: multi billion dollar fraud many think the Somali situation in Minnesota. Also,

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Speaker 1: the Minneapolis City Council and their infinite wisdom acted this

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Speaker 1: week to actually strengthen the ordinance to help illegal aliens

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Speaker 1: at the expense of regular Americans. Here to talk about

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Speaker 1: that as someone who's reporting on it, she's been on

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Speaker 1: the ground there, I belie leave this week. Our friend

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Speaker 1: from the Epoch Times, Janis Heiseel Janis, thanks so much

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Speaker 1: for calling in.

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Speaker 8: Well, thank you. Yeah, if you can call it the ground,

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Speaker 8: it was the snow covered ground. It was pretty dark

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Speaker 8: and snow and cold there. We think we haven't met

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Speaker 8: here all Minnesota. Winner is not for.

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Speaker 1: The faint of heart, really, But you're home now. Are

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Speaker 1: you going back next week?

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Speaker 8: Or actually probably not because there are some things I

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Speaker 8: can do online, Like there's a medium I'm gonna watch online.

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Speaker 8: But I was on the ground talking to people going

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Speaker 8: to the council meeting. You just reference where they ended

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Speaker 8: up passing UH a revised version of the ordnance that

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Speaker 8: makes them a quote unquote sanctuary city, which the Trump

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Speaker 8: administration has sued Minneapolis as well as the state of

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Speaker 8: Minnesota over these sanctuary policies where they're protecting illegal immigrants

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Speaker 8: from UH, the enforcement action they're not allowed. It's it's interesting,

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Speaker 8: it's like a fine line. They're they're not allowed to

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Speaker 8: imped the federal agents, but they're not cooperating with them either,

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Speaker 8: So that's that's the fine line there.

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Speaker 1: But there's nothing about impeding them or interfering in inter rest.

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Speaker 2: They just kind of walk that up to the line.

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Speaker 2: I guess, yeah.

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Speaker 8: They do not they're not allowed because then, you know,

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Speaker 8: Pam Bondi has threatened that they would be prosecuted.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know, and I saw too in the research

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Speaker 1: they already had a twenty two year old ordinance that

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Speaker 1: explicitly reflects the city's values, I guess, values of preferring

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Speaker 1: illegals over regular Americans. But hey, that's my editorial comment,

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Speaker 1: I suppose. But they've actually had something on the books

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Speaker 1: for twenty two years. They must have been one of

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Speaker 1: the first in the country.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Actually, a number of the people who spoke at the

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Speaker 8: meeting that I covered on Tuesday use the term a

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Speaker 8: progressive beacon to describe the city of Minneapolis. And I

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Speaker 8: actually was talking to a number of people who were

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Speaker 8: not at the meeting, including a senator state senator, and like,

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Speaker 8: you know, every single person who spoke at this meeting,

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Speaker 8: they were like I think thirty six people spoke at

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Speaker 8: this meeting, all of them in favor of beating up

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Speaker 8: this ordnance. And I said, just everybody in town supports this.

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Speaker 8: Do you know if anybody's against me? Because if they

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Speaker 8: are against it, they won't say so publicly. Because there

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Speaker 8: is a culture there, according to him, of people who

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Speaker 8: express an alternative viewpoint that isn't progressive are going to

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Speaker 8: be docks, you know, threatened their family, threatened, their jobs,

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Speaker 8: threatened or quote unquote worst as he.

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Speaker 2: Says, nice, nice, Well that's typical the left.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they know everything, their position is right,

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Speaker 1: never listen to anybody else.

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Speaker 2: But it still haunts you off. Though they did.

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Speaker 1: They also talk to about the mask issue of because

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Speaker 1: I've read something that they thought that wearing masks which

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Speaker 1: protect the police officer, the ICE our contrary to the

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Speaker 1: quote values close quote of the city anything on that

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Speaker 1: janus that you can recall, a.

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Speaker 8: Number of people who spoke at the meeting did say

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Speaker 8: they they didn't think it was right that the ICE

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Speaker 8: ations were allowed to be masked. They said that the

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Speaker 8: ICE agents should be arrested by the local police, which

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Speaker 8: I think is kind of interesting because the last time

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Speaker 8: I checked the US Constitution has a supremacy clause that

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Speaker 8: outlines that the federal government outranks the states and or

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Speaker 8: the city. So I thought that was kind of an

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Speaker 8: interesting cake, especially because the number of the people who

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Speaker 8: spoke at the meeting were wearing masks, ostensively COVID masks,

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Speaker 8: like those health masks. But so they're saying it's o

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Speaker 8: key for them to wear masks, but they don't think

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Speaker 8: that the police should be able to wear masks. So

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Speaker 8: that's that's literally the type of thing I was encountering.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I thought I read somewhere too that there

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Speaker 1: were in urging people to where is I wrote it

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Speaker 1: down going out in the streets and blowing whistles during

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Speaker 1: these ice investigations and stops. Do you recall that being

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Speaker 1: a part of this too, Janis?

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Speaker 8: Oh, yes, One guy said that he doesn't leave his

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Speaker 8: home without a whistle. The whistles are supposed to a

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Speaker 8: I guess annoy the police that the alert other immigrants

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Speaker 8: that ices in the area stay away.

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Speaker 2: Gotcha.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really great, you know, really a help to

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Speaker 1: law enforcement. I say that tongue in cheek puts them

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Speaker 1: on a harm's way even more than they already are

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Speaker 1: also you mentioned and you wrote an article about it,

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Speaker 1: the increased investigatory action relative to the multi billion dollar

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Speaker 1: according to some scam going on there with the Somalian community.

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Speaker 2: What's the latest on that, Janus, Well.

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Speaker 8: Just yesterday Scott des sent the Treasury Secretary issue the

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Speaker 8: statement saying that they're about to announce some new regulations

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Speaker 8: where the money transfers going from the United States to

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Speaker 8: Somalia are going to have additional reporting requirements and that

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Speaker 8: the I r S is involved. There are certain businesses,

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Speaker 8: money transfer businesses who are going to be alerted that

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Speaker 8: they are getting un notice that they're under investigation for

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Speaker 8: transfers that may not be on the up and up.

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Speaker 8: Now outlined, and it's a little hard to explain verbally,

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Speaker 8: there's this money transfer system that is it dates back

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Speaker 8: in years and years years. It's an informal way.

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Speaker 2: To Yeah, what is that, Javis, As best as you

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Speaker 2: can tell.

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Speaker 8: Us, Well, the way it works is that say that

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Speaker 8: I want to send money to another country, I contact

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Speaker 8: this intermediary and he has a second intermediary in the

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Speaker 8: country where I went to send money. I give the

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Speaker 8: money to my guy and then he just contacts the

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Speaker 8: other guy and goes, hey, I promise I'll settle up

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Speaker 8: with you later if you give will you give money

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Speaker 8: to the second person the person that I'm seeking to

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Speaker 8: give the money to give the money to a person

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Speaker 8: as long as they give a correct password, give them the money,

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Speaker 8: and we'll settle up later between the two of us,

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Speaker 8: so the money doesn't actually go overseas. The person who

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Speaker 8: is in the foreign country provides money to the second

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Speaker 8: person recip intended recipient as long as that person has

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Speaker 8: a correct password. And apparently this has gone on for years,

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Speaker 8: and there are legitimate uses for this. However, it is

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Speaker 8: a way to avoid detection. Some people say there have

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Speaker 8: been enhanced requirements for reporting any kind of money transfer

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Speaker 8: businesses ever since the Patriot Act, which was passed right

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Speaker 8: after nine to eleven to try to clamp down on

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Speaker 8: terrorist networks because of the September eleventh terror attacks. So

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Speaker 8: that's kind of in the nutshell.

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Speaker 1: How it works, gotcha. Yeah, I'll tell you what. This

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Speaker 1: thing just keeps getting bigger and bigger this week. And

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Speaker 1: I know we just talked to you last week, but

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Speaker 1: are you hearing anything more about the investigation that I

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Speaker 1: guess specifically where they're at now. As far as the

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Speaker 1: dollar amount, I know it was estimated one billion, possibly

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Speaker 1: more than that. Because of the whistleblowers, I guess the question,

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Speaker 1: what have you learned new this week that we didn't

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Speaker 1: already know last week?

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Speaker 8: Well, the whustle blowers actually have estimated that it could

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Speaker 8: be up to eight billions.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 8: And the new additional information that I'm working on currently

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Speaker 8: is that it's not just Somalians, though though it does

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Speaker 8: seem that there are a high percentage of the cases

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Speaker 8: are Somalian suspects. However, I found out that guess what,

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Speaker 8: the second largest population of Somali's, the second only to Minnesota,

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Speaker 8: is right here in Ohio.

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Speaker 6: Oh.

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Speaker 8: Really, we have the second highest number of Somalis. And

666
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Speaker 8: there was there is an attorney whistle blower who has

667
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Speaker 8: come forward saying that there is some significant fraud here.

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Speaker 8: I haven't had a chance to interview that attorney yet.

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Speaker 8: I just found out about this last night, and so

670
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Speaker 8: I'm going to be looking into this. I'm going to

671
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Speaker 8: be doing a story that talks about it's not just Minnesota,

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Speaker 8: although it does appear to be that Minnesota is leading

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Speaker 8: the way, so to speak. I've been speaking to lawmakers

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Speaker 8: in Minnesota. I've talked for four or five.

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Speaker 9: Of them now.

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Speaker 8: One of them told me that they're trying to get

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Speaker 8: some of the money recovered by like, for example, some

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Speaker 8: of these people bought property in Kenya with these allegedly

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Speaker 8: ill gotten games from the welfare fraud and even own

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Speaker 8: a bakery here in Ohio. The taxpayers of Minnesota now

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Speaker 8: own a bakery in Ohio as a result of fraud,

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Speaker 8: according to this one legislator. So I haven't looked into

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Speaker 8: that deeply yet. I literally just found out this information yesterday.

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Speaker 8: So I literally have five six different stories I am

685
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Speaker 8: trying to pull together. I mean, I could probably write

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Speaker 8: stories for the rest of this year and probably next

687
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Speaker 8: year about all of this, and especially because there are

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Speaker 8: other states now involved but that we just haven't heard about,

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Speaker 8: like Ohio. I don't know the extent of it here

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Speaker 8: in Ohio, but apparently there is some. And given that

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Speaker 8: it's the second largest population of Somalies. I mean, I

692
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Speaker 8: have nothing against Themali. They don't know Somali people. In fact,

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Speaker 8: I talked to a few in uh who actually spoke English.

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Speaker 2: It was hard to.

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Speaker 8: Find those who did, but they were, you know, they

696
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Speaker 8: were nice to me, they spoke to me. But when

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Speaker 8: you come from a country that is viewed as the

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Speaker 8: world's second most corrupt, it does kind of affect what

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Speaker 8: you think is acceptable. Perhaps, sure that that's the theory

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Speaker 8: about what's driving this is they come from a country

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Speaker 8: where corruption is kind of an everyday thing and and

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Speaker 8: it's a struggle to get by and you do which

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Speaker 8: can whatever.

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Speaker 2: That might be, I get that, I do.

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Speaker 1: If you heard anything more about what Tim Wallas is

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Speaker 1: up to. I know he made some statements and it

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Speaker 1: looks like people are lining up to run against him

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Speaker 1: for governor. There was one Republican and from what I

709
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: was hearing, it looks like he may have a primary

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Speaker 1: challenge by a Democrat. What are you hearing if anything

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Speaker 1: about that? Janus, I mean, that guy's got to be

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Speaker 1: on the run somewhere.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Well, yesterday he did hold a press conference where

714
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Speaker 8: he revealed that there was going to be like an

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Speaker 8: integrity zar, so to speak, who would oversee, you know,

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Speaker 8: fraud investigations and kind of try to come up with

717
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Speaker 8: different ways to prevent fraud. But from what I saw

718
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Speaker 8: a lot of comments online from people saying, you know,

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Speaker 8: where were you years ago? When the whistleblowers were trying

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Speaker 8: to tell you about this. There was also as attorney

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Speaker 8: was quoted, excuse me, it's saying that that the people

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Speaker 8: would quote, the highest echelons of state government had turned

723
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Speaker 8: a blind eye to what was going on for years.

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Speaker 8: This stuff. This didn't pop up overnight. I did one

725
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Speaker 8: story that indicated that I found concerns about this and

726
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Speaker 8: investigations about some of this dating back like ten years.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, there have been what I think about seventy

728
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Speaker 1: something indicted and either pled guilty or had been found

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Speaker 1: guilty by a trial.

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Speaker 2: Is that accurate? Correct?

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Speaker 8: And so there's there's just so much going on. It's

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Speaker 8: it's really hard to keep up with. There are multiple

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Speaker 8: federal investigations, not just the Treasury and the I r S,

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Speaker 8: but also doctor Oz's Medicaid Department for lack of a

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Speaker 8: better term, and the Small Business Administration is part of

736
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Speaker 8: this as well. And that's so there is it sounds

737
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Speaker 8: like to me a full court press going on from

738
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Speaker 8: the Trump administration and walls. The governor is pushing back

739
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Speaker 8: against that. He's you know, saying that you know, it's

740
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Speaker 8: because Trump is racist, that Trump is pushing this because

741
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Speaker 8: he's racist and that that was his response yesterday during

742
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Speaker 8: his news conference, which lasted for.

743
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Speaker 2: Like an hour.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, racism, charges of racism, the last refuge of a scoundrel.

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Speaker 1: It figures that he would say something like that, I mean,

746
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Speaker 1: are you hearing anything that potentially he's vulnerable? I mean

747
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Speaker 1: you would think, I guess in any other state he

748
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Speaker 1: would be. But who knows about Minnesota. Are you hearing

749
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Speaker 1: anything on that?

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Speaker 8: Well, the people who are saying yes are a Republican, right,

751
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Speaker 8: so we you know they they have, you know, a

752
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 8: a biased perspective for sure. However, you know, it does

753
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 8: seem like that there is this simmering sense of people

754
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 8: are not happy, you know that their taxes are going up. Yep,

755
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Speaker 8: because it's not just the Somali fraud that's part of that.

756
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Speaker 8: It's that they have a lot of unfunded mandates for

757
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Speaker 8: social programs and they put all these requirements out there,

758
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Speaker 8: and then the local governments have to increase property taxes

759
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Speaker 8: and other types of taxes for the citizens. For example,

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Speaker 8: while I was at the Minneapolis City council meeting, they

761
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Speaker 8: came up with some new legislation where if a homeless

762
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Speaker 8: encampment has more than twenty people they will be providing.

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Speaker 8: The city will be required to put in Portajohns sanitation stations,

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Speaker 8: get medical care for people, et cetera, et cetera. And

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Speaker 8: where does that money come from?

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Speaker 1: Yep, well, I think they think it grows on trees.

767
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Speaker 1: But hey, we're out of time. Janis as always, really

768
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Speaker 1: appreciates you filling us in, and we're lucky to have you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're on the ground there.

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Speaker 1: And you got the whole thing tied down, so I

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Speaker 1: hope we can call on you again.

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Speaker 8: Of course, I love talking to the local audiences. This

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Speaker 8: is home for me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Janis all right, Janis Heisel Epoch Times man, she is

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Speaker 1: all over it. I will remind you that she was

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Speaker 1: singled out by none other than Newt Gingrids praising her

778
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Speaker 1: reporting on this particular story. And I guess it doesn't

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Speaker 1: get any better than that. Hey, we got to take

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Speaker 1: a break, but we're gonna flip things a little bit

781
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Speaker 1: here when we come back. We're going to talk to

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Speaker 1: Evan Andrews of SINCEY favorites a lot of great, great

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Speaker 1: gift ideas. I have used the service before. My sister

784
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Speaker 1: lives in Sedona and she wants some Cincinnati stuff. So

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Speaker 1: we will talk to Evan when we get back, and

786
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Speaker 1: from eleven o'clock to eleven thirty that will be the

787
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Speaker 1: open line. So again, if you're on the line now

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Speaker 1: and you want to hold, I promise I.

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Speaker 2: Will get to you at eleven. Mike Allen, Saturday Midday,

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Speaker 2: Progressive Commercial Nose Trickers Connect Mike Allen Saturday Midday. Hey,

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Speaker 2: I tell you what.

792
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Speaker 1: It's that time of year again. You all know what

793
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about Christmas and if you have some out

794
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Speaker 1: of town relatives, as I do, a good way to

795
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Speaker 1: tell them Merry Christmas and that you love them is

796
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Speaker 1: to get them some Cincinnati food. Here to talk about

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Speaker 1: it is Evan Andrews. Evan is with Sincyfavorites dot com.

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Speaker 1: They got about everything under the sun there, Evan, thanks

799
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Speaker 1: for coming up today. Oh thanks for having me tell

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Speaker 1: us a little bit about sincey favorites, what you guys offer,

801
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Speaker 1: how people can take advantage of it if they would

802
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Speaker 1: like to.

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Speaker 9: Well, you got a call soon, yeah, or get on

804
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Speaker 9: the computer and go on to Sincyfavorites dot com and

805
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Speaker 9: order right away. Okay, of course, Montgomery and you know

806
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Speaker 9: our family, my in law start to Montgomery in back

807
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 9: in nineteen fifty one. And this is kind of evolved

808
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Speaker 9: from us packing and shipping our ribs and barbecue sauce

809
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Speaker 9: to shipping Skyline Chili Creators, ice Cream, Glear's, Getta, Lorosa's Pizzas,

810
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Speaker 9: Saints Francis Pizza's, Pine Club, you name it, we've got it,

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Speaker 9: and we can pack it all.

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Speaker 2: We do everything to order.

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Speaker 9: We don't do like some other companies or they have

814
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Speaker 9: these little set kits they pack six months prior and

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Speaker 9: they have them in the freezer. We pull everything to order,

816
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 9: so when you order, you can pick and choose whatever

817
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Speaker 9: you want, or get one of our standard sets and

818
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Speaker 9: go from there.

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Speaker 2: We do it all to order. It sounds like you

820
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Speaker 2: got just about everything.

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Speaker 1: Mentioning talking about off the air about Pine Club, I

822
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: haven't been up there in a long long time, but man.

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Speaker 9: It's a lot of good steaks, great steaks. You know,

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Speaker 9: we're blessed in this city. We've got some great, great

825
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 9: unique food items. Yes, sir, and I would say this

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Speaker 9: town is pretty loyal. No matter where you live now,

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Speaker 9: you always want that taste to home. No, it's a

828
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 9: great question. No question about my sister. I had mentioned

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Speaker 9: to you.

830
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Speaker 1: Lives in Sedona, and I've used your service quite a

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Speaker 1: bit over the years.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna hit it again this year because

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, her and her husband both from Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: They want some Cincinnati food.

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Speaker 9: It's funny people say, you ship Glear's Getta, how much

837
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Speaker 9: do you? How much do you sell? I said, We're

838
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 9: going to have close to fifteen thousand one pound rolls

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Speaker 9: of Getta going out just in December.

840
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Speaker 2: It's a lot. You had mentioned that people better act quickly.

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Speaker 1: Is that I mean, is this something that if you're

842
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Speaker 1: like me, you can do the day before Christmas a

843
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: couple of days before, or is it a deal where

844
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Speaker 1: you better get it in now?

845
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Speaker 2: You better.

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Speaker 9: We like to have it in the queue for now

847
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Speaker 9: to plant it out. But the last day that we

848
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Speaker 9: will ship will be December twenty third, for the twenty fourth,

849
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 9: but you're at the mercy of FedEx making sure they

850
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Speaker 9: get it there, and I'd hate for a Christmas present

851
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Speaker 9: not to arrive on time. So we were telling everybody

852
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Speaker 9: we want to make the December twenty second, or really

853
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Speaker 9: our last push that's on a Monday.

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Speaker 2: That gives people plenty of time we've we've got a

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Speaker 2: week and a half. We're good.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you, what would you say is

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Speaker 1: your most popular item that people want? And I know

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Speaker 1: you have different combinations and things, but you can also

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Speaker 1: kind of do it uh on a basis where you

860
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Speaker 1: just pick it out yourself. But what do besides Montgomery

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Speaker 1: and ribs? Of course, what do people really want?

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Speaker 9: I will tell you the number one, of course, is

863
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 9: will be our the Montgomery and Ribs combined with Greaters

864
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Speaker 9: ice cream. You'll get four slabs of ribs and two

865
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Speaker 9: pints of Greaters ice cream. And then people will add

866
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 9: our baked beans to it, our mac and cheese to it.

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Speaker 9: Then they'll start adding Skyline chili. We've got canned, We've

868
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Speaker 9: got the frozen, We've got the new Chicken chili. Then

869
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Speaker 9: you've got on the other side, people love Lo Rosa's pizzas.

870
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 9: They love they love that it is too, so you

871
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 9: can start picking and choosing and matching up what you

872
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 9: know what makes your family happy. So that's those are

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Speaker 9: our number one sellers. And then then you've got the

874
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 9: people on the dessert side. They love schnecking. Remember the

875
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 9: old Virginia bake.

876
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: I heard you talking about that. So I've never had it,

877
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 2: but I've heard about it.

878
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 9: People used to line up at the Virginia Bake in

879
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 9: Clifton and they would line up well. When they decided

880
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 9: to stop doing business, the Buskin family, Dan and Brian

881
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 9: Buskin talked to the owner. They got the recipe and

882
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 9: they're making the original Virginia Bakery schneck and we'll send

883
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 9: out a couple thousand schneckins this month. People load up

884
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 9: their freezer and they keep them. They keep them for

885
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 9: a couple of months. They're they're fabulous. I can't believe

886
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 9: I haven't had that yet. I'm gonna have to give it.

887
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 9: It's decadent. We have another little company we're helping out

888
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 9: called the North College Hill Cakery. It's a mother and

889
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 9: a daughter. They've got the most wonderful they call them.

890
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 9: Ooey gooey buttercakes you can't go wrong. And Bonbindery Opera

891
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 9: cream cakes. Of course we have them. We've got the cervads,

892
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 9: carrot cake, and apple pies and cherry pies and pumpkin pies.

893
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 2: So got everything. You got it covered. You mentioned Skyline chili,

894
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: the chicken chili.

895
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 9: I've not had that yet, have you I have, and

896
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 9: I will tell you they did a really really great

897
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 9: job of matching the flavor profile. It does taste a

898
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 9: little different, it's chicken versus beef. But they really did

899
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 9: a great job. They spend a lot of time effort

900
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 9: to make sure they got it right.

901
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 2: It is great.

902
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 9: I gotta try it. But you know how people are,

903
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 9: I know they want to stay with the original.

904
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 2: I wonder what the thought was.

905
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: I'm sure obviously there's a demander they wouldn't have done it,

906
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: but I don't know. Maybe chickens are supposed to be

907
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: a little more healthy.

908
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 9: Well, I think it's the higher protein level and I've

909
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 9: seen people are looking for that, and it's a little

910
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 9: bit different, just slightly different flavor profile. But it's still great.

911
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 9: I had about two weeks ago. It was terrific.

912
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 2: Ah.

913
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: Great, Well, I have to try that too. What else

914
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: do you want to tell everybody about it? How can

915
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: they take advantage of this website? How they would get

916
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: in touch with not you personally, but just just go

917
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: to Sincyfavorites dot com. Okay, and that's the easiest way

918
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: to do it. Just go online. You can place a

919
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: corporate order.

920
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 9: We've got a special corporate tab where you can download

921
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 9: from an Excel file or right from your context, goes

922
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 9: right into our database, into our system. It's very, very

923
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 9: very seamless real. It really is terrific. It's so some

924
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 9: We have a good friend Willie talks about him all

925
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 9: the time, Wayne Carucci. And if Wayne Cruse he can

926
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 9: figure out how to make an order, anybody can figure

927
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 9: out how to make it.

928
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 2: He hasn't met me yet. I'll tell you what. It's easy.

929
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 2: I struggle.

930
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 1: So if I go home this afternoon, which I very

931
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: well may do, and bang out an order for my

932
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: sister in Sedona, uh, she will get it.

933
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 9: By Chris, there's no doubt he'll probably. I think Monday's

934
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 9: locked out. We've got over a thousand shipments going out

935
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 9: on Monday. So Tuesday, Tuesday or Wednesday, and Sedona will

936
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 9: be a next day air delivery service, so she'll get

937
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 9: it one day. We'll pack it up on Wednesday and

938
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 9: it'll be there Thursday.

939
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 2: Sounds good.

940
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 9: Anything else you want to say, no, no, just we're

941
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 9: blessed to be in a great city of Cincinnati, where

942
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 9: we've got wonderful, wonderful homemade products absolutely and people that

943
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 9: move out of town want them and you're there.

944
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: You're there to give them that service. Appreciate you coming

945
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: up and letting us know, and good luck with everything.

946
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: Thanks Mike, appreciate it, Thank you, thank you. Hey, we

947
00:50:58,480 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 1: got to take a break, but we'll be back.

948
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 2: Mike Allen. Saturday, midday.

949
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 5: Apparently mother nature is deciding to press the snow button.

950
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 2: When will it arrive?

951
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,720
Speaker 5: Need to keep it here for the latest from yours

952
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 5: Severe weather Station seven hundred w l W.

953
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 2: Your ticket to.

954
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 10: Big savings is that big blue envelope in your mailbox

955
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 10: val pack.

956
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 2: It's printing with deals.

957
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: From midday, we moved things around a little bit. I

958
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: had Evan on at ten thirty. Well, I'll tell you

959
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: what after listening to him and since he favorites, I'm hungry,

960
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: you know. And like I said, I've used the service

961
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: before and I'm going to use it again. I have

962
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: a sister out in Sedona and it's really great. And

963
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: you know what, Cincinnati people, when they move away, they

964
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: still want Cincinnati food.

965
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 2: Great gift.

966
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: I think you ought to check it out anyway, As promised,

967
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 1: I'm going back to the phones here.

968
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 2: Thank everybody for hanging on too.

969
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: Again, we do have open lines from eleven o'clock to

970
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 1: eleven thirty. At eleven thirty and talk to our friend

971
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: Peter Bronson. He's got a new book out just in

972
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: time for Christmas. I'm about three fourths of the way

973
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: through it. It's really good. We'll talk to Peter at

974
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,919
Speaker 1: eleven thirty. Hey, let's talk to Louise in Marie Mont.

975
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 1: She's been hanging on forever.

976
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 2: Hey, thank you.

977
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:22,439
Speaker 11: I'm Mike.

978
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 2: Hi, Louise. Thanks for having me Mike.

979
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 11: That's a hard act to follow after that food for

980
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 11: you guys. Way, I want to switch geared to Mike

981
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 11: and address this unfortunate incident with this coach of the

982
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 11: Michigan team.

983
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

984
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 11: I want to start out by saying I am certainly

985
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 11: non attorney, but the company for which I work for

986
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 11: close to four decades provided me so much sexual harassment training.

987
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 11: I feel it like I have a PhD in this tackey.

988
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 11: So that's what I want to address. And if we

989
00:52:55,840 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 11: look back, this whole sexual harassment started with Clarence Thomas

990
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 11: and Anita Hill. Remember that that's when it started. That's

991
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 11: when they started training us every year. The attorneys came

992
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 11: from out of town. This that and the other, and

993
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 11: then we get to proceed up to the Bill Clinton

994
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 11: Monica Lewinsky. Well, all of a sudden, that didn't you know,

995
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 11: sexual harassment never came up. And as you know as

996
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 11: an attorney, Mike, sexual harassment is whenever it's a superior

997
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 11: subordinate relationship. There's no distinction. Once that situation is there,

998
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 11: it's considered harassment. Now, I have a great deal of

999
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 11: pity for this coach and his family, and I've been

1000
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 11: really troubled by this and praying for this family that

1001
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 11: he could get this family back intact. I mean, his

1002
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 11: life has turned upside down. But let's look at the

1003
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 11: female in this situation, which they're now calling a victim.

1004
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, I don't know any of the facts.

1005
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: So if you could enlighten us on that.

1006
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,720
Speaker 11: Okay, Well, it's a coach of the mission, she can team,

1007
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 11: very well respected coach and found out that there was

1008
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 11: a two year relationship with one of his subordinates. Now,

1009
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 11: this woman her salary increased between twenty and thirty thousand

1010
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 11: dollars since she began this affair. Now, being in the workplace, Mike,

1011
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 11: we all know these situations are toxic, they're unfair, they

1012
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 11: make everyone else suffer as this woman progresses up in

1013
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 11: the organization, makes more money than them. It's just a

1014
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 11: toxic situation. And I don't know. I just feel that

1015
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 11: the world has to be aware of these types of

1016
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 11: things and stop acting like the female is the victim.

1017
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 11: Don't forget this coach went to her house and threatened

1018
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 11: that he was going to take his life. Well, the

1019
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 11: first call she made was not to the nine to

1020
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 11: one one to try to save the man. Her first

1021
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 11: call is to her to her attorney. If the school

1022
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 11: is probabis. I can tell you, Mike, from my experience,

1023
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 11: the organizations never released the female in this situation. They

1024
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 11: then treat this keep that female there, treat her like

1025
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 11: a China doll. Everyone else in the organization suffers, and

1026
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 11: you know isn't treated the same way this person is.

1027
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 11: This is a really bad situation. So I think you

1028
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 11: need to study up. I thought, yeah, it was pretty recent.

1029
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 11: It just happened with the past couple of days.

1030
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and there was some uh, some undercurrent of

1031
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: something gonna happen.

1032
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 2: It did happen.

1033
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: I am gonna bone up on it, Luise, but I

1034
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: really appreciate you bringing us up to date.

1035
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 11: Right, Okay, Mike, have a good Christmas. If I don't

1036
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 11: get to call in.

1037
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: Before that, you too, please try to call though. I

1038
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: love her, She's a great caller. Yeah, you know, I

1039
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: don't know the facts of that situation. Again, I'm not

1040
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: without sympathy for the coach. Uh. I had thought, just

1041
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: listening to it that perhaps it was a situation where

1042
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: maybe she was a minor or an intern or something.

1043
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 2: But we'll have to see what comes out.

1044
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 1: You know, a college, especially like Michigan, they're not gonna

1045
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: want to, you know, put up with something like that,

1046
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 1: so they'll pull the trigger, I suppose, and they did

1047
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: pretty early on him. But I have sympathy for everyone

1048
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,439
Speaker 1: involved in that situation. Hey, we can get a quick

1049
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 1: one here. How's about r J? Hey, RJ? You got

1050
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: two minutes, buddy?

1051
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 2: How you doing good? Are you good?

1052
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 3: Call? Call you about the Abrego Garcia case. I think

1053
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 3: you've heard all that. Yes, he was released from the

1054
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:45,240
Speaker 3: tension I saw, and the media seems to be treating

1055
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 3: him like he's a free to hostage.

1056
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 2: Oh of course.

1057
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 3: Interesting. Uh, And I'm just wondering what's the status of

1058
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 3: his of his situation, because I thought he was in

1059
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 3: the process.

1060
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 4: Of being prosecuted.

1061
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 3: By uh, you know, the federal of the Feds. And

1062
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,439
Speaker 3: I just wonder that's still on, isn't it. I mean,

1063
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 3: he's he's freed temporarily, he's still uh the you know,

1064
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 3: he's still possibly going to get you know, tried and

1065
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 3: for this, for this smuggling issue.

1066
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. And that's my understanding too.

1067
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: I just I heard it break yesterday, obviously remembered the name. Uh.

1068
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: But the prosecution is not going to go away. I

1069
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: guess he might who knows what he'll do, but that

1070
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: prosecution is not going to go away at least. I

1071
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: think it would be highly unlikely that the US attorney

1072
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: would dismiss it.

1073
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 3: I think, I think what happens in these cases is

1074
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 3: it is the hope is that it takes a long

1075
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 3: time for him to get to to trial, right, and

1076
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 3: the case and a new you know, maybe a new

1077
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 3: administration comes into comes into office after the president is

1078
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 3: is the longer there isn't it? And and and the

1079
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 3: uh maybe the Democrats win. I hope that doesn't happen.

1080
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 2: Please decide to drop the case. Yep.

1081
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 3: I think that's the hope.

1082
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: It's I don't think it could be you know what,

1083
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: there are too many uh, grants of pardons clemency on

1084
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: both sides of the isle, I think, And you're right,

1085
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: a different administration would probably see it differently, but we're

1086
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: just gonna have to wait and see. Uh.

1087
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 3: But that's that's the case of all these and all

1088
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 3: these all these situations really right, And that's my concern.

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Speaker 3: Is a waste the time it takes is something they

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Speaker 3: rely on, I get it to avoid uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: having to take responsibility for these situations.

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Speaker 2: I get it. Hey, unfortunate around of time, r J.

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Speaker 1: But thanks, thanks for the call, Thanks for the subject too. Yeah,

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00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to bone up on that and see

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00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: what the deal is. Hey, we got to take a

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Speaker 1: break for the news button.

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Speaker 2: We get back. I'm going right back to the calls.

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Speaker 1: Mike Allen, seven hundred wl News Radio seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: Mike Gallon Saturday Midday closing moments of saying, well, I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what. Cincinnati's favorite author one Peter Bronson. He's

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00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: out with a new book just in time for Christmas.

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Speaker 1: His new book is entitled Magical Mystery Tour, Murder, Mystery

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00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: and Buried History. It's a collection of five short stories.

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Speaker 1: And also there's a section in back I think about

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00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: ten different historical places that Peter has found out about

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00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: that would be good places to visit. I'm definitely going

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Speaker 1: to take him up on it. Peter, thanks for coming.

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Speaker 10: In my pleasure. Mike always good to be with you

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00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 10: appreciate it. Hey, just kind of give us an I

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00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 10: outlined it a little bit. But is what the book's about? Okay,

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00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 10: well this time. In my previous books, I've done longer

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Speaker 10: form stories about the Cincinnati during the Civil War, or

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00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 10: the mob in northern Kentucky, or the first settlers in Cincinnati.

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00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 2: But you know what my favorite Peter Ronson book is

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01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 2: I think probably behind the lines the three Yeah I'm

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01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 2: one riots. I shouldn't get going on it. But is

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Speaker 2: it still for sale? Oh? It is, Yes, you can

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Speaker 2: get that on my website.

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Speaker 1: The only, the only, fair and accurate account of those riots.

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Speaker 1: And it's aftermath.

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Speaker 10: Oh, thank you so much, you know, and it's it's

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01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 10: timely now with the city of Cincinnati paying people.

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Speaker 1: To riot, yeah, to the tune of about eight million bucks. Unbelievable,

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01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: only in the city of Cincinnati, only Cincinnati.

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Speaker 10: But anyway, back to the book, so this one, I'm

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01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 10: doing a different approach. I'm doing five short stories. They're

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01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 10: all in the same kind of wheelhouse that I like,

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Speaker 10: which is very local Cincinnati, southern Southwest Ohio, stories about

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01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 10: our history. Things that that kind of are in the

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Speaker 10: category of when you read that, you go, who knew?

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01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 10: I know, who knew? I know that we had a

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01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 10: grave robbery in eighteen seventy eight when the son of

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Speaker 10: a president was taken from his grave, you know, night

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01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 10: he was buried.

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Speaker 2: I like local history, try to keep up on I

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01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 2: had no idea. I mean that great. Can you kind of.

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Speaker 1: Give the listeners just that story in particular, just a

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Speaker 1: little bit about what it's about.

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01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 10: So William Henry Harrison, our ninth president, had a son,

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Speaker 10: John Scott Harrison, who was unique in American history because

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Speaker 10: not only was he the son of a president, he

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01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 10: was the father of a president, Benjamin Harrison.

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Speaker 2: And he was a congressman.

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01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 10: Yes, yeah, yeah, So John Scott Harrison in his older years,

1146
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 10: he was very respected, beloved. Grandfatherly died suddenly in his sleep.

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01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 10: The family goes to Congress Green Cemetery, which, by the way,

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Speaker 10: is right across the road from the William Henry Harrison Monument.

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01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 10: And it's one of those places on my history tours

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01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 10: that's all that that it's a great place. It's just

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01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 10: really John Cleve Simms of the Sims Purchase is also

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01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 10: buried there. Okay, so back to the story, John Scott

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01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 10: Harrison is buried, His family mourns him, does a service

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Speaker 10: by the grave side, and the next day they come

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01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,919
Speaker 10: back very next day for another funeral of another young

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01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 10: man that they knew that was close to their family,

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01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 10: and they look at their father's grave and it's been opened,

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01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 10: it's been torn apart, and the body is gone. How

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01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 10: outrageous would that be? Absolutely? I mean, here is a

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Speaker 10: son of a president. But in those days it was

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01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 10: not uncommon for these guys. They were called body snatchers.

1162
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 10: They were called grave robbers, one of my favorite terms.

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01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 10: They called them resurrection men. And they would come and

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01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 10: steal a body and they would strip the clothes and

1165
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 10: jewelry off and take away the gold, teeth, whatever they

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01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 10: could harvest from his body and sell the clothes. So

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01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 10: if you're looking for a bargain, beware of bargain. Hopefully

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01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 10: they wash them. Well, I don't think so. Yeah, I

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01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 10: think they probably reaped.

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Speaker 1: But these people that are stealing the bodies, correct me

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Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. They were students the predecessor, I guess

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01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: of you see medical school.

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01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 2: Yes, well, so these guys were.

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Speaker 10: It was a regular profession to be a grave robber

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Speaker 10: and their main client, of their only client in most cases,

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01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 10: was the Ohio Medical College. But the ring that was

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Speaker 10: stealing bodies in Cincinnati had such a reach. They were

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01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 10: stealing bodies all over central Ohio and servicing Columbus Cleveland

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01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 10: all the way to ann Arbor, and that's where they

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01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 10: found one of the bodies that was taken from Congress

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Speaker 10: Green Cemetery in ann Arbor.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was unbelievable.

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01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 10: And these guys would sell these bodies to the medical

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01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 10: students because in those days, nobody donated their body to science,

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01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 10: so they needed fresh corpses to practice on. Practicing on

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01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 10: people that were under anesthesia was frowned.

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01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 2: Upon, but they did it nonetheless.

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Speaker 10: I mean there were just the ethics and the morals

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Speaker 10: of the medical profession in those days is appalling.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I had no idea. I had no idea that

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Speaker 1: it was going on locally here.

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01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, tell us, I know how but tell the

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01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 2: listeners how that ended up.

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Speaker 10: Well, John Scott, Harrison's son took on the responsibility of

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Speaker 10: finding the body snatchers who took his father. He hired

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Speaker 10: the Pinkertons from Chicago to come assist and detectives from

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Speaker 10: Cincinnati police, and they found a report that was in

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01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 10: the Inquirer, one of those little gospy items, that said

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Speaker 10: that a strange, long sheet wrapped body shaped object was

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01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 10: unloaded in front of the Medical College in the wee

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Speaker 10: hours of the morning. And so they went to the

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Speaker 10: Medical College. They searched all of the floors. When they

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01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 10: got to the top floor, they find a pit that

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01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 10: is a shaft that goes all the way down to

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01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 10: the first floor, five floors, and there's a rope in

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01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 10: a winch. Yes, yeah, And they start turning the winch.

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01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 10: It up comes the son of the president. He is

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01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 10: completely stripped of his clothing. He's been cut open so

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01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 10: that the body could drain. It just horrified. Yeah, And

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01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 10: at first they didn't know if this body was their father.

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01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 10: And then they took it off the rope and laid

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Speaker 10: it down and the son.

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Speaker 2: Just lost it.

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01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 10: There's his father, yep, And he was about to be

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01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 10: dissected and yeah, cut into parts.

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Speaker 2: They would. It's just a horrifying nobody.

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Speaker 1: And like I said, I follow a local history to

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01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: the extent I can't. I don't think anybody knew about

1219
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,919
Speaker 1: that at all, you know, until you've started to write

1220
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 1: about it. Also, probably my favorite and there the Black

1221
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 1: Widow serial killer. Yeah.

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01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 2: I actually recognized some names in there. Oh did you good? Yeah?

1223
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Speaker 2: One of them Walter Hart.

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01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, Walter famous case Harness detective.

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01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 1: Heart Pharmacy is and has been forever at the corner

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01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 1: of Glen Way and Cleeswarsaw, that right, independent Pharmacy. I'n't

1227
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 1: been in there in years, but when I did go

1228
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 1: in there, they had a bust of Walter Hart. I

1229
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: don't know what his obviously the Heart family, but exactly

1230
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: what the relationship was. And then when I was in

1231
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 1: the police academy, they told us about he was killed

1232
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 1: in the line of dude.

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01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 2: Yes, what a sad story. I know he was. He

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01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 2: had been working with Detective Tom Ferrager. He must have

1235
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 2: been something.

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01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 10: Oh he still holds the record for the most cases

1237
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 10: cleared and solved murder cases. And those two probably saw

1238
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 10: stuff that we just would never want to see and

1239
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 10: would never recover from. Heart finally had enough and took

1240
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 10: a desk job, and unfortunately he stopped at a bar

1241
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 10: on his way home from work one night after he'd

1242
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 10: taken this desk job to get out of the line

1243
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 10: of this this holorifying stuff, and arm robbers came in

1244
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 10: and herded all the clients, the customers into a restroom. Well,

1245
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 10: Heart was carrying a weapon concealed and he came out

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01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 10: of the restroom and started shooting, and that's how they

1247
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 10: killed him. Yeah, I mean that what a crazy courageous

1248
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 10: thing to do, you know, as a cop, I know.

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01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 1: But but there's a little West Side connection there. Yeah.

1250
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 1: Also out called Dudley Alcohol. Yes, that's a name that

1251
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: is pretty prominent in Cincinnati judicial circles. And of course

1252
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: he was the prosecutor and he was a judge. Yes,

1253
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 1: Pete out Cault was a long time magistrate here. And

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01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: the reason I mentioned it is out in Sharonville on

1255
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 1: Mostella Road is the Reserve Center. Oh yeah, yeah, I

1256
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 1: was in the National Guard, right, that's well in Army

1257
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: two Army was in the one thirty fifth jag Detach

1258
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: named after out call yep and they got.

1259
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 2: A big plaque to him and everything. So that was

1260
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 2: kind of cool to do well.

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01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 10: And you know, that was one of those little things

1262
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 10: that is so fun about researching history. Because I was

1263
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 10: doing this thing about the serial killer and big Tom

1264
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 10: Feriger and I look in and I'm thinking that prosecutor,

1265
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 10: let's take a look at him. So I started digging

1266
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 10: into and I find out this guy Dudley Outcault.

1267
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 1: He was.

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01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 10: He flew in World War One with Eddie Rickenbacker's hat

1269
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 10: and the ring squadron, which had the most celebrated aces

1270
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 10: in the entire war. He came home, he served in

1271
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 10: Rickenbacker's pit crew at the Indy five hundred and even

1272
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 10: drove some laps at the end.

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01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:22,560
Speaker 2: This is our county prosecutor. Unbelievable.

1274
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 10: And he was such a cool guy.

1275
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 2: And how he.

1276
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 10: Died, Oh, and how he died so sad. He was

1277
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 10: a great pilot. He went back in World War Two

1278
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 10: enlisted again. He had to overcome a health problem. In

1279
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 10: the day that he was cleared healthwise, he signed up

1280
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 10: to become part of the Army Air Corps and he

1281
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 10: was ferrying B twenty four I think, and he was

1282
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 10: right near Washington, d C. Almost to the airport when

1283
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 10: the whole thing exploded and he was never found. He

1284
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 10: just was vaporized.

1285
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 1: And they don't explain that in the thing that I

1286
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 1: haven't been at the reserve center in years. They didn't

1287
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 1: explain how he passed away. I told Peter alcohol and

1288
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: I maybe he's a grandson, great grant. He's retired now

1289
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: and he kind of the family knew about it. I

1290
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 1: knew about the plaque and everything like that. But it's

1291
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 1: just kind of fun when you're reading something like your

1292
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 1: history books and you see something that, hey, I.

1293
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 2: Know where that is. Yeah, yeah, but can.

1294
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,639
Speaker 1: We I'm gonna make sure I give you enough time, dude,

1295
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 1: say where we can get your book? Wanted to ask

1296
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 1: you if you could finish the story about ms Hahn and.

1297
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 2: What oh that was interesting.

1298
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 10: So she was the first serial killer, although they didn't

1299
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 10: call them serial killers back then, just a sensational murder

1300
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 10: in the late thirties, yes, thirty eight, thirty seven, thirty eight.

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Speaker 2: She was.

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Speaker 10: She probably killed more than fourteen sixteen people. And so

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Speaker 10: she would cozy up to these elderly, lonely German immigrants

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Speaker 10: men almost exclusively, and pretty soon they tell their friends

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01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 10: they had a new girlfriend and they were so excited

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01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 10: they turned over their house and their savings and the

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Speaker 10: next thing you know, she comes over and cooks for them,

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Speaker 10: and what do you know, they died. Well, it might

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Speaker 10: have been the arsenic that she put in exactly, she

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Speaker 10: was poisoning. And that's a horrible, horrible death. It's just wow.

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Speaker 10: I couldn't believe it. And so she was finally caught

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Speaker 10: and it was done with probably one of the very

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Speaker 10: first cases of forensic medical science. And the Cincinnati Police

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Speaker 10: had one of the first in the country, that's right,

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Speaker 10: collaborations with the UC Medical School and their Department of Forensics,

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01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 10: and they teamed up to solve this case. And it's

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Speaker 10: really stunning how it's like CSI. Way before CSI yep,

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Speaker 10: nineteen thirty eight.

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Speaker 1: There were four I think victims that were tried in

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Speaker 1: Amum County and he was she was convicted of all.

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Speaker 2: Of them, I believe, uh huh. And she died in

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Speaker 2: the electric chair. She did.

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Speaker 10: She was the first woman to be put to death

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Speaker 10: in the electric chair in a while.

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Speaker 1: And just it's a fascinating story. It is just the

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Speaker 1: I don't know looking for the right word here, that

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01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 1: the lack of empathy, her heartless victims.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're right. They were all old men.

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01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 10: All lonely, sad old men who missed Germany. And one

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01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 10: of her tricks was to come and knock on their

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01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 10: door and say she was a long lost niece, right,

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01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 10: who had discovered they had some kind of inheritance coming

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01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 10: from the family in Germany, and she was here to

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01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 10: help them get it.

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Speaker 2: And so she Oh, she was just what a piece

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01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 2: of work.

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Speaker 1: I know, Wow, your favorite story out of all of them,

1338
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 1: if you cared.

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01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 10: To weigh in on that, you know, I kind of

1340
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 10: really liked doing westerns. Yeah, I always loved westerns, and

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01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 10: I really liked the story of James W.

1342
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 2: Denver, a Civil War general named after it.

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01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 10: The city of Denver, Colorado, is named after a man

1344
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,679
Speaker 10: from our own community who grew up in Wilmington, Ohio,

1345
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 10: who knew and he led a wagon train on the

1346
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 10: Oregon Trail, which would be incredibly courageous in those days,

1347
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 10: and he went out for the gold Rush.

1348
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 2: He fought a duel.

1349
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 10: In this duel, he killed a newspaper editor that come

1350
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 10: a little close to home.

1351
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but this editor, this.

1352
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 10: Editor had a chance first shot missed and Denver fired

1353
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 10: in the air to let him have a second chance

1354
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 10: at life.

1355
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 2: And he said, no, I insist we continue this duel. Wow.

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01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 10: And Denver said, okay, if that's why you want it.

1357
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 10: And Denver was a crack shot.

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01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I mean, that's not the guy

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01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 1: you'd want to be coming up against it.

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01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 10: No, No, his picture is just it's compelling when you

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01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 10: look at that picture of him, just a guy you

1362
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:40,719
Speaker 10: would not want a trifle.

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01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 1: Well.

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01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 10: And he also became the governor of the Kansas Territory

1366
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 10: during Bleeding Kansas, right, which, if you know your history,

1367
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 10: was the dress rehearsal for the Civil War, and he

1368
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 10: encountered all kinds of brutal massacres and raids. And one

1369
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 10: of the worst of the brutal psychopaths in Kansas at

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01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:02,600
Speaker 10: that time was John Oh Boy. John Brown, who is

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01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 10: elevated as a hero in the abolitionist community, was a

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01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 10: psychopathic murderer. He killed dozens of people, and he did

1373
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 10: it just in horrible ways and all in the name

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01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:14,759
Speaker 10: of God.

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01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 2: At the time.

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01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 10: For him, he was a diluted nuts yep, cold blooded

1377
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 10: psycho you know what.

1378
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 1: And it's just so much good history in here. Two

1379
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Speaker 1: final questions, got a couple of minutes left. What's next

1380
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 1: if you know or care to let us know? And second,

1381
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 1: how does someone.

1382
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:34,639
Speaker 2: Get the book? Well, I'll answer the second one. First.

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01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 10: I'm gonna actually I'm doing a signing today at Joseph

1384
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 10: Beth Booksellers in Rookwood, and I'm going to be there

1385
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 10: from one to three, so come on by and I

1386
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 10: can personalize your book if you want to give one

1387
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 10: to somebody for Christmas, and all of my books will

1388
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 10: be there, so there's that. I'll be there from one

1389
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 10: to three at Joseph Beth Booksellers. And then also if

1390
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 10: you want signed copies, go to my website which is

1391
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 10: Chili Dog Press, and there's still plenty of time to

1392
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:03,919
Speaker 10: mail those out before Christmas.

1393
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 2: Right also available at all the other.

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01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 10: Bookstores such as Barnes and Noble and so forth, and

1395
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 10: on Amazon.

1396
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 10: I encourage people to support the local bookstores. I like

1398
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 10: to see that. I also like to see sales come

1399
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,560
Speaker 10: to my website because I can stay in touch and

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01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 10: let people know right away when they have a new

1401
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 10: book coming out, and they seem to like that. And

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01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 10: as I was telling you before we started a lot

1403
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:27,640
Speaker 10: of people that are my customers on the website are

1404
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 10: mailing these books out of state to Cincinnatians who miss

1405
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 10: Cincinnati and love reading about our history.

1406
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:38,759
Speaker 1: Well, and you keep them coming too. Got about thirty seconds?

1407
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 1: Do you care to say what you're working on now

1408
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 1: or well?

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01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 10: One of the things I've found is when I do

1410
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 10: these books, I learned so much. When I go out

1411
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 10: and do speaking, so I'm available, I'll be doing a

1412
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 10: lot of this all winner for all kinds of groups,

1413
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 10: service clubs, women's clubs, book clubs, whoever gathers. I go

1414
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 10: out and do a presentation on my series of books,

1415
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 10: and I learned the most amazing stories. Raise a hand

1416
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 10: in the back and say did you know? And I'll

1417
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 10: be who knew? That's a fantastic story. Yeah, So I

1418
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 10: jump in and I write that down, and so I may.

1419
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 10: I kind of like this short story thing, right, gives

1420
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,640
Speaker 10: me a chance to tackle a lot of topics. And

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01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 10: I think people like reading short stories because they can kind.

1422
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:18,679
Speaker 2: Of dive then and jump out.

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01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 1: Every one of your books is an easy read. Magical

1424
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:24,759
Speaker 1: history tour. I think I referred to it as magical

1425
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 1: mystery tour.

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01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 2: A lot of people do that. I think that was

1427
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 2: the Beatles.

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01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 10: I hear the Beatles Magical Mystery Tour song every time

1429
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 10: I say it.

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01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 1: Great book, easy read, be a great Christmas gift. Really

1431
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming in my pleasure, Mike. It's always good

1432
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 1: to be with you. I love the work you're doing here.

1433
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate it. Hey, listen, we're out of time,

1434
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 1: which means I'm out of here. Be back next Saturday

1435
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:49,520
Speaker 1: for Saturday Midday. Mike Allen seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 2: Do you own a small business. A seismic shift is coming.

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Speaker 2: It's time to get super short coming soon.

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