WEBVTT - 12-11-25 Willie with Jackson Trumpy

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<v Speaker 1>Bill cunning in the Great American. Of course, I get

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred, sometimes thousands of emails a day from various sources.

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<v Speaker 1>That one stood out like a sore thumb. When I

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<v Speaker 1>hear the name of Trumpy and an email, it perks

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<v Speaker 1>me up and I pay attention. So a few days ago,

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<v Speaker 1>a young man named Jackson Trumpy sent me an email

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<v Speaker 1>about living in OTR and what happens in OTR and

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't get a whole bunch of concern from the

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<v Speaker 1>city of Cincinnati because of what's happening in and around

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Francis Seraph Ministries on the Republic Street right off

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<v Speaker 1>Liberty in the north end of OTR. And as you

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<v Speaker 1>know as a listener, I've driven by that area frequently,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've pointed out on the air and off the

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<v Speaker 1>air that things don't look good there. That is not

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<v Speaker 1>kind to have homeless individuals living on the streets, is

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<v Speaker 1>not kind. To have people that are hungry in sias

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<v Speaker 1>doing things in garbage cans, is not right. To have

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<v Speaker 1>the mentally ill living on the streets. And so when

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<v Speaker 1>this email was sent to me by a young man,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six year old Jackson Trumpy, I read it and

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<v Speaker 1>it goes on to say, I've been a resident of

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<v Speaker 1>Northern OTR, north of Finley Market for eight months now.

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<v Speaker 1>I chose to move downtown because I believe in the

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<v Speaker 1>fun urban atmosphere revitalization happening in OTR. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be part of the future. However, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>bring a serious and ongoing public safety threat, in public

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<v Speaker 1>decency and quality of life to Cincinnatians in general, and

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson Trumpy. I can say this welcome for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time to the Bill Cunningham Show and Jackson. First of

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<v Speaker 1>all me I say that those of us who knew him,

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<v Speaker 1>those of us who worked with your grandpa Bob Trumpy,

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<v Speaker 1>have his memories with us often because he taught us

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<v Speaker 1>so much about radio. And as I said to you

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<v Speaker 1>off the air, that when he left this earth a

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<v Speaker 1>few months ago, he left a hole in broadcasting, also

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<v Speaker 1>a hole in your family. I would ask you, first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, what was your relationship with your grandpa Bob Trumpy,

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<v Speaker 1>the Great Number eighty four? And how much do you

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<v Speaker 1>miss him?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thanks for having me on the show. It's an

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<v Speaker 2>honor to be here. Yeah, our whole family misses him

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<v Speaker 2>a whole lot. We were very close with him. We

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<v Speaker 2>lived not far away. He lived in Glendale, Ohio, so

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<v Speaker 2>we visited him quite frequently growing up. He used to

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<v Speaker 2>come to all my games. He would never miss a

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<v Speaker 2>sports game for myself or my sisters. And I really

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate the kind words that you and your colleague said

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<v Speaker 2>on seven hundred. We were all listening.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you, Jackson. I spoke to him a few

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<v Speaker 1>months before his death. It was about a collateral matter.

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<v Speaker 1>And his exterior was hard as Chinese calculus, but inside

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<v Speaker 1>you the heart the size of the state of Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>And he created sports talk. He did Olympics, he did

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<v Speaker 1>the Masters, he did the Major League Baseball, football, basket boxing.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a great broadcaster, recognized he's in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>It got the Peter Roselle Award, for God's sakes, and

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<v Speaker 1>I followed him for something like ten to fifteen years

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<v Speaker 1>on this radio station. I learned radio more from him

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<v Speaker 1>than from anyone else. So whatever success I've had for

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<v Speaker 1>the past gosh forty three years, the foundation of that

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<v Speaker 1>success was listening and watching your grandpa, Bob Trumpy. Now

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<v Speaker 1>let's get onto your column. You talk about the core.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is large daily congregations of persons around Saint Francis. Sarah,

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<v Speaker 1>explain why you sent me this and explain what you

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<v Speaker 1>have observed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, before I start, I just want to say

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<v Speaker 2>that I do think Saint Francis Sarah, mynasteries is doing

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<v Speaker 2>a really good deed and helping those who are in

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<v Speaker 2>need and cheating hundreds of meals today approximately three point

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<v Speaker 2>fifty from what I was been told, to those who

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<v Speaker 2>are struggling with homelessness. It helps create a small measure

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<v Speaker 2>of stability in some of these people's lives who pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much face constant uncertainty. And I don't really think that

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<v Speaker 2>this is of fault of Saint Francis, but the whole

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<v Speaker 2>issue I think kind of stems around where this is

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<v Speaker 2>where their site is located here since living in OTR

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<v Speaker 2>and as you said, when you pass this area on

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<v Speaker 2>Republic Street, you can look north up Republic Street and

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<v Speaker 2>there are anywhere from fifty to one hundred people that

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<v Speaker 2>are just in that alley kind of set up. There

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<v Speaker 2>is just trash everywhere, and there's been a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>crime within this one block area. And I just think

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<v Speaker 2>with the amount of growth and economic development that the

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<v Speaker 2>city is trying to put in the Northern I believe

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<v Speaker 2>the location of this dude pantry is directly hindering the

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<v Speaker 2>progress of.

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<v Speaker 1>That So Jackson Trumpet, you'd almost call it a failure

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<v Speaker 1>of compassion. And we need drug treatment facilities, we need

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<v Speaker 1>alcohol treatment facilities, we need insanity assistance people with mental

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<v Speaker 1>health problems. And it's not kind, it's not understanding. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not helpful to have people living on the streets, that

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<v Speaker 1>have people fornicating on the streets, to have people using

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<v Speaker 1>drugs on the streets, to have the negative impact on

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<v Speaker 1>residents like you and workers and visitors, and Northern OTR

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<v Speaker 1>is directly affected by the location of this homeless and

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<v Speaker 1>food kitchen. So your idea is to provide those services,

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<v Speaker 1>but not necessarily in an area in which there are

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<v Speaker 1>many businesses and people living, correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I mean where the site is located in the

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<v Speaker 2>heart of revitalization zone that the city and like three

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<v Speaker 2>CDC are working to bring back to life. However, the

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<v Speaker 2>crime that goes on around this food pantry is uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's pretty shocking to say the least. I can

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<v Speaker 2>recall at least three homicides this year, the latest being

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<v Speaker 2>on August sixth, twenty twenty five, when a woman was

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<v Speaker 2>struck in the head by bullet. I went onto the

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<v Speaker 2>city's website and I actually looked at the crime that's

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<v Speaker 2>for this singular block some of the things that I've seen.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't show you all the crimes, but they do list. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>there's been six shootings, three of them have been fatal.

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<v Speaker 2>The other three people were hit and no one, no

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<v Speaker 2>one died. There's been a total of thirty five different

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<v Speaker 2>theft reports and for total offenses reported within that area

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<v Speaker 2>is over eighty and that's just within the singular block

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<v Speaker 2>of Republic Street and Liberty Street. So as you can

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<v Speaker 2>look up for yourself on the city website, there is

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<v Speaker 2>a ton of crime and law enforcement assets being sent

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<v Speaker 2>there all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would assume Jackson Trumpy that the police have

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<v Speaker 1>told me they're told not to interfere when crimes are

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<v Speaker 1>being committed because the city doesn't want it to be

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<v Speaker 1>in They went the statistics to prove one thing. If

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<v Speaker 1>you seen in uniform scout patrol cars, police in uniform

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<v Speaker 1>driving by and ignoring this while it's going.

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<v Speaker 2>On, Yeah, I mean, I definitely have. I'm sure that

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<v Speaker 2>they're aware of what's going on down there.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Really think it's St. Francis's fault that this is going on,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think what they're doing is really good, and

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<v Speaker 2>as human beings, we have a moral responsibility to help

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<v Speaker 2>those in need and help them get back on their

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<v Speaker 2>feet to live a more positive life. But I just

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to bring this kind of whole thing and shed

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<v Speaker 2>some light on it because I think myself and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of other people that are living in the area

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<v Speaker 2>notice kind of what's going on there on a daily basis,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know that people do not feel comfortable walking

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<v Speaker 2>around that area just because of all the crime. There's

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<v Speaker 2>just widespread trash, people sleeping in doorways, it's I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>aggressive panhandling, open drug use. If you drive by there

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<v Speaker 2>and kind of look down that alley, it's not uncommon

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<v Speaker 2>that you'll see someone doing the typical zombie lean where

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<v Speaker 2>they're kind of just blumped over like they just did

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<v Speaker 2>something and it's not a good look. And for the

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<v Speaker 2>whole growth of the city and the whole initiative for

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<v Speaker 2>them to get economic growth into Northern OTR, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>directly hindering that process. Since I moved in in April.

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<v Speaker 2>There have been very nice renovated storefronts all around this area,

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<v Speaker 2>and I can't recall any of them being leased like

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<v Speaker 2>they are all still vacant. No, a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>apartment buildings are. They have a lot of rooms left.

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<v Speaker 2>And I believe that this problem right here is directly

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<v Speaker 2>correlated to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, your email to me talks about sexual intercourse in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of Republic. Street officers and business owners have

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<v Speaker 1>told me that women and men engage in sexual acts

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<v Speaker 1>in public on a regular basis. It's simply what occurs.

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<v Speaker 1>Shot victims and also open air drug use, aggressive harassment,

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<v Speaker 1>widespread litter, and it's been going on for years and years.

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<v Speaker 1>I had on a business owner Privy Bar is a

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<v Speaker 1>few blocks over and they had seven people shot outside

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<v Speaker 1>the Privy Bar in the month of November. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>told by the mayor, who by the way, has left

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<v Speaker 1>town at this point in others that things are better.

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<v Speaker 1>Your email says to me, Jackson Trumpy, you emailed have

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<v Speaker 1>to have purerival the city manager, Jean Michelle Kearney, Cca

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<v Speaker 1>an Albi Victoria Parks. When you get a hold of

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<v Speaker 1>them for this widespread and you talk about crimes being

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<v Speaker 1>committed every day, there's dozens and dozens or more crimes

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<v Speaker 1>being committed, but they don't go on the on the

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<v Speaker 1>on the blotder because no one's arrested. The police just

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<v Speaker 1>ignore the crime. Therefore, crime is down by some categories.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you contact the city officials as the grandson

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<v Speaker 1>of Bob Trumpy, what respond once do you get of any?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they basically just acknowledged my concern. They told

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<v Speaker 2>me that the ministry is a longstanding, privately owned nonprofit

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<v Speaker 2>that's been there since the seventies. It is privately owned

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<v Speaker 2>and they cannot legally force the organization to do anything.

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<v Speaker 2>They told me that they would reach out to Paint

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<v Speaker 2>Transis and address the illegal behavior and contacts and tell

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<v Speaker 2>them to contact poliefs when necessary. They also told me

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<v Speaker 2>that my email had been forwarded to the CPD District

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<v Speaker 2>one neighborhood Liaison sergeant and once he got that email,

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<v Speaker 2>he would respond to me with information on how they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to make the situation better and resolve it. I

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<v Speaker 2>have not heard anything, which is kind of why I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to reach out to you, because I just think

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<v Speaker 2>this issue needs to be addressed, and as a young

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<v Speaker 2>person living downtown in OTR. I feel like we need

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<v Speaker 2>our voices to be heard as well.

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<v Speaker 1>One might ask why did you agree to move? Why

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<v Speaker 1>did you go to OTR, Because I assume you know

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of time, before you moved there, about seven months ago,

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<v Speaker 1>that what you'd be facing, what was your motivation and

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<v Speaker 1>putting yourself in that environment, then complaining about it, what's

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<v Speaker 1>your motivation and going there in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I have a decent amount of friends that live downtown.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a really fun it's a really fun area. You

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<v Speaker 2>have all the action there. You have the Bangles, the Reds,

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<v Speaker 2>the FCC. There is a lot of development going on downtown.

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<v Speaker 2>I also work in Kentucky, so I had to move

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere that I could be closer to work. My previous

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<v Speaker 2>drive to work was almost an hour there and back

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<v Speaker 2>every day. But you can ride the street car to

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<v Speaker 2>get anywhere. There's a ton of really good restaurants and

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<v Speaker 2>local festivals and street fairs and many other activities to do,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just a fun environment. However, I think that

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<v Speaker 2>we have this problem just like all other cities do.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think that we need to be better out

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<v Speaker 2>of dressing it.

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<v Speaker 1>A friend of mine who works with Saint Francis, Serah

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<v Speaker 1>said they used to open the doors of the church

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<v Speaker 1>to allow people inside the church itself. The Franciscans run it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it got so bad inside the church, those who

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<v Speaker 1>run the ministry Saint Francis said, we can't do this anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a urination on floors, on pews, there were

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<v Speaker 1>sexual acts committed inside the church itself, that there were

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<v Speaker 1>drug use inside the church. It got so bad after

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<v Speaker 1>months and months and months of putting up with it,

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<v Speaker 1>they locked the doors. While it's true the city can't

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<v Speaker 1>control what happens inside of a church. It can control

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<v Speaker 1>what happens on Republic, it can't control what happens on Liberty.

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<v Speaker 1>That's their direct responsibility. Saint Francis does not control Republic Street,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have these activities from fifty to one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>people happening daily. Is a city problem that the county's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to address. But it's the city police that are

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<v Speaker 1>being told don't do anything, because the cops say, if

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<v Speaker 1>we start arresting people in and around Saint Francis, Sarah

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<v Speaker 1>and OTR, it doesn't do any good because they arrest

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<v Speaker 1>them put them in the jail. They're released immediately, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't show up for court, then a warrants issued to

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<v Speaker 1>cape Is for their arrest. Then they're arrested, sent back

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<v Speaker 1>to the jail. Then you go to judge and the

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<v Speaker 1>judges say, they've been arrested two hundred times. Nothing we

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<v Speaker 1>can do. Put them back on the street. It used

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<v Speaker 1>to be and the good old days. You might recall

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<v Speaker 1>we had Longview State Mental Hospital. In fact, when I

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<v Speaker 1>was in the Attorney General's office, i represented the state

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<v Speaker 1>to put people with profound mental difficulties or drug or

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<v Speaker 1>alcoholic use in law, you state mental hospital until they

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<v Speaker 1>dried out or until they got their lives together. There

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<v Speaker 1>was about seven hundred and fifty people a long View

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<v Speaker 1>State Mental Hospital. That's where those persons were in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen forties, fifties, sixties, and seventies. That's the solution is

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<v Speaker 1>still arresting him. The cops will tell you makes no difference.

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<v Speaker 1>What difference They go back to Republic Street and keep

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<v Speaker 1>using drugs. You've got to put them in an environment

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<v Speaker 1>where they can't leave, in which they have to get better,

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<v Speaker 1>and if they don't get better, then they don't leave.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense to you? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I totally agree with what you said. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff that I see downtown that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>probably people in other cities always see as well, but

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<v Speaker 2>when you see it in person through itself, it's pretty

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<v Speaker 2>shocking the first time. But yeah, Saint Francis, I know

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<v Speaker 2>they can't control the individuals that are outside, even I

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<v Speaker 2>know they were on many of their services and they

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<v Speaker 2>do a great deed, And I'm not suggesting that we

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<v Speaker 2>take that away in any form or kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>kick them out, But I just there's too much that

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<v Speaker 2>goes on in this area, in the center of this

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<v Speaker 2>redevelopment district, and there's a lot that the city is

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<v Speaker 2>trying to do, but they're but they're really just hindering

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<v Speaker 2>themselves with this site being in the center of Northern

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<v Speaker 2>OTR and just having this this constant like fifty to

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred plus people roaming around constantly, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just making some people feel uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet have you thought about Jackson Trumpy? Have you

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<v Speaker 1>thought about leaving and saying I can't do it anymore?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you willing to stay with it for a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit longer?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm I'm not considering leaving. I'm not to that

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<v Speaker 2>point yet, But I mean, who knows, we're all be

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<v Speaker 2>in a year, but no, I am not to that

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<v Speaker 2>point yet.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Jackson Trumpy, once again, your father, your grandfather,

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<v Speaker 1>is held in high esteem, and may his memory bring

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<v Speaker 1>you comfort. And Jackson Trump, I'm glad you got a

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<v Speaker 1>hold of me. I'm glad I think your grandpa would

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<v Speaker 1>be happy with a kind of grandson that your mom

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<v Speaker 1>and dad and he helped develop. And whenever you want

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<v Speaker 1>to have further contact with the big One, you get

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<v Speaker 1>a hold of me, and I'll do my best to

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<v Speaker 1>get the message out. And the adults have got to

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<v Speaker 1>take adult responsibilities for these kinds of things. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not pay criminals eight point two million dollars. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's better to use that money to reinstitute a in

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<v Speaker 1>house facility that you can't leave until you're better, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't get better, you can't leave. A few

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<v Speaker 1>hundred cannot kill the life of one, hundreds of thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of people. Jackson Trumpy, once again, thanks for coming on

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<v Speaker 1>the Bill Cunningham Show, and Merry Christmas to you and yours.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Jackson, thank you, I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless America. Let's continue with more of it. The

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<v Speaker 1>city will spend eight point two million dollars paying criminal,

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<v Speaker 1>serious money, but they won't solve the problems that their

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<v Speaker 1>policies have created. Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred ww