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Speaker 1: Jackson Trumpy. I can say this welcome for the first

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Speaker 1: all me I say that those of us who knew him,

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Jackson. I spoke to him a few

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Speaker 1: And he created sports talk. He did Olympics, he did

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Speaker 1: The problem is large daily congregations of persons around Saint Francis. Sarah,

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean where the site is located in the

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Speaker 1: Your email says to me, Jackson Trumpy, you emailed have

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Speaker 1: But when you contact the city officials as the grandson

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Speaker 2: I mean, they basically just acknowledged my concern. They told

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Speaker 2: Well, I have a decent amount of friends that live downtown.

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Speaker 1: A friend of mine who works with Saint Francis, Serah

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Speaker 1: That's their direct responsibility. Saint Francis does not control Republic Street,

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Speaker 1: What difference They go back to Republic Street and keep

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree with what you said. There's a

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Speaker 1: I bet have you thought about Jackson Trumpy? Have you

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Speaker 2: No, I'm I'm not considering leaving. I'm not to that

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Speaker 1: All right, Jackson Trumpy, once again, your father, your grandfather,

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Speaker 1: is held in high esteem, and may his memory bring

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Speaker 1: you comfort. And Jackson Trump, I'm glad you got a

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Speaker 1: maybe not pay criminals eight point two million dollars. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's better to use that money to reinstitute a in

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Speaker 1: of people. Jackson Trumpy, once again, thanks for coming on

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Speaker 1: the Bill Cunningham Show, and Merry Christmas to you and yours.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Jackson, thank you, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: God bless America. Let's continue with more of it. The

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Speaker 1: city will spend eight point two million dollars paying criminal,

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Speaker 1: serious money, but they won't solve the problems that their

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Speaker 1: policies have created. Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred ww