WEBVTT - 3-16-26 Sloan with seth Walsh 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:01.840 Do you want to be an American? 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:05.200 On the weekend in the books, and we're back at 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:07.880 here Scott's fold thanks for jumping in the show on 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:11.000 seven hundred ww. You know, even without the mass shooting, 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:15.200 Cincinnati's crime numbers are up sixty two percent, I believe 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:17.320 to the first ten weeks ten eleven weeks of twenty 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:20.239 twenty six, and in one western neighborhood, of course, two 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:22.560 eleven year old's now killed at the same playground. Since 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:25.520 twenty twenty three, we had a dangerous street takeover on 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:28.920 Saturday night early Sunday morning, resulting in arrests and great 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:29.760 work by CPD. 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:31.360 By the way, So here's the thing. 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:37.440 We're halfway through March and it's snowing. What happens this 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:41.400 summer when the city actually is out in full force 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:45.080 and what's the city actually doing to maybe prevent or 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:46.760 tamp down a lot of this crime? Joined the show 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:48.960 is council member Seth Walsh. Seth, how you been? How's 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:49.600 life you good? 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:52.960 I'm doing great, Scott getting ready for the snow today? 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:58.000 Yeah, yeah, you thought it was over, It's just beginning. 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:01.840 I'm that's way. 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:06.280 What the damn plowd tracker doesn't work. It's a seventy yesterday, 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:07.240 so you gotta. 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:09.680 Day. 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:12.240 Even the software says I'm out. Software tapped out. 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:15.960 But seriously, Saturday night, and this could have been much 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:18.199 worse than it was. You have to give one hundred 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:20.760 percent of the credit to CPD because they did a 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:24.440 fantastic job. I think thirty nine people arrested, sixty five 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:27.440 cars tow during a mass street takeover, and it happened 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:30.399 in several different areas. They picked up a couple I 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:33.840 think stolen guns as well. One of the places where 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:36.880 they congregated was Riverfront Live parking lot, and that's the 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:38.960 same venue, of course, where nine people were shot just 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:39.839 a couple of weeks ago. 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:41.960 The bigger picture, though, is we've. 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.280 Seen bar and dining in public transportation, a bunch of 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:48.240 other numbers indicating that that is down in the city. Now. 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:50.880 Some of that may be the weather, another part of 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:53.080 that may be the economy, But how much is crime 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:53.920 impacting all that? 0:01:56.560 --> 0:02:01.160 I mean, the issue was crime conversation You and I 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:04.200 have professional stingy be having right and unfortunately the city 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:07.000 this conversation we're going to continue to have. I think 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:09.560 it's important to take a step back and really appreciate, 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:12.040 as you said, what CPD was able to do, able 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:14.280 to get ahead of this, you know, you know, road 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:17.240 take over and arrest all these bad actors. They were 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:20.040 coming out participate in that, and that's really you know, 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:21.960 it's an interest point. It's just the ground that we're 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:23.760 seeing around the city because you know, the people that 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:26.840 were coming from that weren't Offinnatians. I don't. I've actually 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.440 gets many work even the Stadius they're coming across. The 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:32.239 problems in the city. It was kind of wild the 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:36.520 reports I'm getting who they were even finding there, and 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:38.480 people bringing their kids to this for example. I mean, 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:40.760 it's a dangerous something was being pulled off. And so 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:43.919 first off, I just think the polices are a big 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:47.480 accolades for that. The staffs, though, are the stacts. And 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:49.600 so I think there's some good questions that you're going 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:51.560 to be asking me about. You know, why are these 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:54.080 crime up and anytime you have crime to problems and 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:56.400 we got to do more to fix that. But you know, 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:57.880 this is the priority that I've had since I got 0:02:57.919 --> 0:02:59.880 a city council. Continue to point to the fact that 0:02:59.919 --> 0:03:03.799 we are dramatically understaffed in the police Department. While they're 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:06.480 able to have these great moments like this weekend, we 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:08.880 are still dropping the ball city leaders in terms of 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.040 making sure they're fully funded to be able to do 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:12.959 the action plans. And they say they need to be 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:14.560 able to be successful on our streets. 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:18.080 Do they need more tools and more bullets in the belt, 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:20.320 so to speak? Because if you go back to twenty 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:23.080 twenty three, the state of Ohio moved to increase the 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:27.280 penalties for street racing and you and Vice Mayor Jana 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:30.680 Sheloman Kearney opposed it. Does this change your mind? Should 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:32.200 it be more than a misdemeanor? What I mean that's 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:32.880 a payout ticket. 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.760 Yeah. So Jeff Cramond and I actually were talking about 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:38.400 this last night, talked fume to Jeff Cramandy and I 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:41.280 were talking about this, and we're going to be customer mark. 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:44.640 Jefferies already has the motion he's putting forward SASS for 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:46.840 a report we'd like to take a little bit further, 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:49.800 and actually kind of moved to just amend our ornments 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:53.680 is to go further than that misdemeanor. At the time 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.720 we were voting on a resolution, I just had some 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.200 personal issues at the resolution, but I do think that 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:01.080 it's time that we step bother would make sure that 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.000 we are actually, you know, clacking down on these and 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:04.800 making sure that it's not happening in the city, because 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:07.280 you know, it isn't a true point for where we're 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.040 seeing crime happening, and we need to make sure that 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:11.000 we are not allowing it and not going too easy 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:14.280 on it. Because thirty nine people being arrested as an 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.040 indicator of some problems that are going on. 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.160 Yeah, well, what made you change your mind on there 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:19.520 or say, hey, we do need to get harder? 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:19.720 Is it? 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:21.599 Is it the size of this one? I mean, thirty 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:25.000 nine arrests, sixty five cars and it's March. As I said, 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:26.680 you know this is going to happen more and then 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:28.120 maybe bigger ones over the summer. 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:28.640 God knows. 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:30.920 Is it a couple of years ago, maybe it wasn't 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:32.680 a bigger deal as it is now, or what was 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:33.200 a catalyst? 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:36.720 No, I would say that you know, one thing I 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:39.479 think you appreciate about me, Scott when complay learning and 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:41.800 growing and at the time, I think this was my 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.680 first year for several months on city council, and I've 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.200 spent a lot of time since then you know, integrating 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:49.520 myself from the police department to learn how they operate, 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:52.120 what's going on, And it was really an opening experience 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:54.280 when you go on a violent crime squad ride along 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:56.640 and you're an non marched police vehicle and you're seeing 0:04:56.680 --> 0:05:00.760 what's happening and the offices are telling you that tells 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:02.839 you can't even tell are happy because you're not. You know, 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:05.200 you're not used to this, I mean, really changes your 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:07.440 perspective on when the police come in and they say 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:09.640 these are the tools that they need, what does that 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:12.080 mean and how does that actually matter? And so I 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.440 think for me, it's a matter of continuing to learn 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:16.479 and grow. And you know, at the time, I wasn't 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:19.839 yearly informed or educated on some of the policing issues 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:22.440 and how they are trying to solve bigger issues in 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:26.000 the city. So I think that's that's the good time 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:27.640 for people to just take the time to continue to 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:29.840 educate yourself and not get yourself locked in on a position, 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:31.720 because that's how we get bigger problems here. 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:33.839 Yeah, So, as I respect, I think most people listening 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:35.880 to it's like, yeah, you're learning. You're young man, you 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:37.479 learn on the job and go Okay, well, we do 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:39.800 need tougher laws. I think that's a I think that's 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.240 a great answer. Council members Sess Walshawan with Sloani here 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:44.880 seven hundred W WELLW crime numbers are up sixty two 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:47.159 percent through the first ten weeks of twenty twenty six. 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:49.960 And of course we just had this three takeover. No 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:53.240 injuries or accidents, so thank God for that. But you're 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:55.680 talking thirty nine arrests, a couple of guns off the streets, 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:58.520 and sixty five cars towed in all credits to CPD 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:01.720 because they did a fantastic job and and and shutting 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:04.200 this down. I don't think it's going to cause people 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.360 to maybe think twice about it because the laws, it's 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.400 only a misdemeter one that's as low as you can go. 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:11.960 It's a ticket, that's about it. I know in northern 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:14.839 Kentucky this this is an eye opener. 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:15.320 Uh. 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:18.200 There's a lawmaker there who I had on that said, listen, 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:20.960 this is happening in Sinsey. It's happening all over the 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:24.839 place in Louisville and UH and Lexington and other cities. 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:28.000 The three takeovers. We want to make it a felony. 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:30.200 What we want to do is after the second strike, 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:32.760 second time you're caught, we're going to take your car 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:33.719 and put in a crusher. 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:36.000 Is that too extreme? Is that going too far? 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:40.520 I think the bigger the bigger issue. I don't know 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.200 that I have an opinion on, you know, first second 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.600 sight to put your car and pressure you. There's a 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:47.520 lot of people that can use out there, so I 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.760 think there's probably more better ways that we can redistribute here. 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:53.680 But I think the bigger issue is you're look at 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:56.000 how many people had illegal guns that were arrested in 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:57.800 that and then we talked by gun violence and as 0:06:57.839 --> 0:06:59.800 you point them out, it's happened right in front of 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:01.800 them place. We just had a mass shooting in the city. 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:06.279 Scadding the issue with these takeovers. You know, it's started 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:08.560 a seemingly it's a cute TikTok trend. I don't have 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:11.960 to keep the right word for you know, but you 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.560 know it started as a TikTok trend, and it is 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:18.880 driving from reality, if you will, and it is driving 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:22.560 people with shady so on margin and in some cases 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:26.920 illegally and illegally owned guns that leads to these visitors. 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.840 And I feel like we're constantly hadn't to have conversations 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:32.840 about which is then we're shooting people and that's the 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.440 problem that's fundementally it. So what we have to do 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:38.080 proactively is we talk about crime numbers, is to bring 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:39.720 them down. We have to stop the things that are 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:43.160 bringing people with illegal guns that are going to create 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:47.480 the environment for potential shootings, for potential violence, fo potential 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:49.640 print and so yes, I think we have to step 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:51.680 up our enforcemate, we have to step up how we 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:53.880 can do this. We have to give us police department 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:56.960 more tools to make this something that people stop doing 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:02.400 and because we just can't tolerate what we know leads 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:03.360 to worse action. 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.000 And then this summer you're going to have the you know, 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:07.920 the people in the dirt bikes and the quads out 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.400 there too. That's a whole another set of problems when 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:12.920 it comes to traffic enforcement. Seth Walsh, the city's on 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:15.560 crime report showed fifty two people shot in Cincy in 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:17.520 the first ten weeks at twenty twenty six, and that 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.400 does not include the mass shooting at Riverfront Live, so 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:22.440 it's up sixty two percent of the same time period 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:25.960 year over year. We've talked a lot about with you 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:28.200 and other members of Council here on the show. With 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:31.400 all the anti violence measures Council approved last September, the 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:34.800 five million dollars spent, what why are crime numbers going 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:37.160 the wrong way? 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:39.079 Man? If some may have the answer to that was Scott, 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.319 they would be a very rich person. Right now. It's 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:45.280 it's troubling, it's frustrating, it's dispartening. It makes you feel 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:48.800 like anything you do is succeeding. You know. I wish 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:52.000 I had the answer for why our choice seems to 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:55.360 be violent. As opposed to just solving these problems through conversations, 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:58.520 we're just walking away and dealing with it the next day. Yeah, 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:01.920 I think we've just viety to come to them, to 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:04.720 the you know, what violence actually is and what those 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:08.040 long term impacting consequences become. And I think we, you know, 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:11.319 continue to try to chase and put these measures and 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:12.880 the effect that are going to take long time to 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:15.680 solve it. And then the next week or the next 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:18.439 day there's another tragedy, and then we have to pivot again, 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:20.480 and we try to ramp up again, and and some 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:23.120 of this is just a long term societal adjustment we 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:24.760 have to make. I think We dealt with a lot 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.280 of youth problems last year. I suspect we have some 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:29.280 more on the way this year, because you know, there 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:32.280 is trauma that our uth are dealing with from COVID 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:34.080 that I think is only just now starting to have 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:35.960 the conversations about it. But I still think we're so 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:39.800 far behind on what that conversation means. But that's going 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:42.760 to take time to fix and solve, and and so 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:44.120 that means we have to figure out what short term 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.320 solutions are and how we manage those long term solutions 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:49.680 at the same time. That's complicated and unfortunately right now 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:52.079 that's not working to the best that we could possibly 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:53.720 make it happen. And I think we have to be 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:54.439 honest about that. 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:56.160 How much of the problem, though, is outside of your 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:59.360 control sets? And that would be judges who are on 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:02.400 this this own recognizant kick zero bond. We've seen people, 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:05.400 you know, the shooting it in between the guy had 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:08.000 an ankle monitor on. He didn't even bother cutting it off. 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:10.680 They cut it off. There's no repercussions for it whatsoever. 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:14.040 And so it just emboldens the this this extreme one 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.920 percent or less than one percent of the population to 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:20.760 commit more heinous and more violent and more deliberate crimes. 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:23.400 There's not much you can do. You can pass all 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:25.160 laws and roles. You're not going to tell judges what 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:27.400 to do. But how much of the problem lies defeat 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:29.720 of We've got too touchy feeling when it comes to 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:30.839 dealing with criminals. 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.400 Look, I think we're talking about a really complicated topic. 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.200 So I think it's really easy to pass the buck 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:40.000 and blame somebody, whether you want to blame you know, 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:42.559 if you're a city of council members, to blame a judge, 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:44.520 if you're a judge, to blame the state legislature, the 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.200 state legislature, blame the city counc's members, and you know, 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:51.000 then work the system back and then blame everybody else 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:52.600 to say, well, we all have to just do better. 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:54.960 At the end of the day, we all have a 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:56.760 role in this. Every single one of us has a 0:10:56.800 --> 0:11:00.240 role in this. You know. I was at a first 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.840 service yesterday and this journalman had a public puzzle piece 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:04.760 on lapel and I asked him what it meant, and 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:07.280 he told me, you know, it's a puzzle piece because 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:08.920 we're all part of the bigger puzzle. And if we 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.000 don't all click it in. It doesn't work. So can 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:13.240 I blame the judges, Sure, you can blame me as well, 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:15.480 you can blame everybody. At the end of the day, 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:17.320 we have to all do our parts. We have to 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:19.240 lock in and say this is not acceptable. We've got 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:20.800 to do better, and that means we have to hold 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:23.439 ourselves to a higher standard. And frankly, you know, well, 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:25.800 I think the since that police department is doing fantastic job, 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:27.920 are we as the city leaders doing enough to help 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:30.360 and support them? I would argue, no. You know, they've 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.400 been clear since I got on City Council that they've 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:34.880 been asking for more resources, that asking to more offices 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.680 just to get to the minimum compliment, and we haven't 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:41.439 done that. And so before we until we solve those problems. 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:43.600 I think it's difficult to start pointing to think at others, 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:45.400 But I also think that others need to start looking 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:47.079 at themselves and saying, are we solving all of our 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:49.319 problems before we pass the baying back to city Hall, 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:51.599 because we all are part of the ecosystem and it 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.240 is a really really complicated topic and passing the blame 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:56.880 and pushing the blame on others only makes it harder 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:57.280 to solve it. 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:01.000 Okay, I'll play a little partisan Paul for a second here, 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:02.559 and I think you know me, I'm not necessarily I 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:04.640 just I want things to work. I don't care who 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:09.640 gets the credit. It's been a pillar of a progressive 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:13.160 platform to be more hands off when it comes to policing, 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:16.720 that treating criminals more like victims themselves and the root cause. 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:18.440 And we heard that a lot from Vice Mayor jan 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:21.000 Olschelam and Kearney. I'm sure the mayor feels the same way. 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:23.720 But you know, at some point we look at this 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:25.840 and go, it's not working for us. I mean, case 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.760 in point is a judges aside. We have a gun 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.440 shot This detection system called shot spot or logged nearly 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:34.839 one hundred shootings in the city in West Side and 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.480 West End since twenty twenty three. More than half the 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.080 victims were children. We had two eleven year olds killed 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:42.400 at the same playground in less than three years. Neither 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:45.040 case has been solved. They're both cold cases at this point. 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:47.600 We have a camera system that doesn't work that had 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:49.520 to be fixed after the second homicide. 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:50.560 What does that. 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.520 Say about how good a job that leadership of the 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:55.800 city and this would be the Democrats that get elected 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.840 there are doing because because clearly the idea that hey, 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:02.000 we have to police differently because of a mandate from 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.520 the public. At some point you have to go off 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:06.960 to that fraction of one percent that are recidibus that 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:09.440 are causing most of these bad crimes. I'm not talking 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:12.720 about jaywalking and things like that. I'm talking about violent, 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:16.160 predatory crimes that from this end anyway, the rest of 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:17.920 us who don't live in the city look inside and go, 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:20.400 it's a mess down there. And we just keep bringing 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:22.240 the same people, or at least the same parties back 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:24.480 to try and solve a problem that they helped create. 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:25.080 Is that fair? 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:28.600 No? No, I would not say that's fair. I would 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:30.520 say that that that gets the exact point that I 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:34.400 was just trying to make. You can certainly put all 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:36.800 that on the city sincenatic, and I think that they're 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:39.040 a fair amount of that. You know, the city deserves 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:41.559 to answer, and the city deserves to be held to 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:44.480 the standard have to answer that. But if we start 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:47.720 playing partisan politics here, we start playing the fingers. The 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.679 city has been trying to do legislation around gun control 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:52.199 that would allow us to actually go after some of 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:53.880 the ex bad date actors, and we've been stopped by 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:57.080 the Republicans to control the state. Does that do any good? 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:59.120 Point those fingers at each other right now. No, of course, 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:01.600 it doesn't do us any good to solve that. The 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:05.000 reality is we have to say that we have a 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:07.599 problem with violence in the city of Cincinnati to some 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.040 degreek but also you know, you look at the statistics 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:12.920 and it is bound in the last several decades. So 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:16.520 anytime there's any violence, anytime there's any crime, that is 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.040 an unacceptable period, full stop. Until we get to a 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:21.640 perfect year where there's a zero zero zero across the board, 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:24.920 we are failing and we have to continue to strive 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:27.880 toward that Democrat Republican. Whether you live in the suburbs 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:29.720 or do you live in the city, all of us 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.440 have a role in making this happen. And we can 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:34.400 point to fingers and say, well, you haven't solved all 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:36.240 the problems Scott, because you're a radio host and you 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:38.320 have a responsibility to be a moral adult, and blah 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:40.640 blah blah blah blah. That doesn't do us any good. 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:42.600 It just it doesn't do us any good. And we 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:44.280 can get into the partisan vickery. But at the end 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:45.680 of the day, when somebody gets shot, they don't care 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:47.440 if you're a Democrat or Republican who comes and helps 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.200 save them. And so we all have. 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:52.800 But the majority of city voters, assurers of the city voters, 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:54.320 are realities, so we don't see it. Though I'm a 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:56.680 check and balanced kind of guy. I love parties keeping 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.880 each other in check, and it's it's completely lopsided now 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.080 federally at the state level and even at the local 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.560 level for that matter. We can talk about Republicans running 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:08.880 Columbus and Washington, but of course Democrats have a stranglehold 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.200 on the city of Cincinnati. So these issues are relevant 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.120 in that regard. You know, I'll bring it back, and 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:15.280 I think you're right on a two degrees seth is 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:19.000 that you know, you talk about the gun policies in Ohio. 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:21.720 I'm a big Second Amendment guy, but I see what 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:23.560 happened here when it comes to stand your ground. We've 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:26.800 now had what three cases of people of criminals shooting 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.880 each other. People with disabilities, meaning if you're under disability, 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:33.040 you can't own a possessive even think about a gun. 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:37.480 And yet we know that felons are out there handling weapons, 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:39.160 and we've seen this where they just claim, oh, I 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:41.400 was at the Riverfront live shooting. How can both of 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:44.360 these people with a beef with each other shoot shoot 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:46.560 at one another in a crowded nightclub and both claim 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:49.200 self defense. That's part of the problem right there, one 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:51.200 hundred percent. So I agree with you there, it's just 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:55.760 at the local level where it's controlled by the Progressive Party. Here, 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:57.360 it's like the whole idea that we're going to be 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:01.760 a kindler, gentler society to these victimized people, I'm not 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:03.520 and I think most people aren't buying it at this point. 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:05.320 We just we got to get tougher on those who 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.560 are going to break the law. And the biggest victim 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:10.160 and all that are the people that allegedly Democrats are 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.800 trying to help, which would be the people of collar 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:13.320 and the poor. 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:15.880 Well. And so this is where I want to push 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:18.120 back on you because and I assure you I'm not 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:20.880 disagreeing with you that you know, there are criticisms that 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.000 are rightfully come our way. But I want to push 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:25.360 back is that you know this is that police department 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:28.200 has said repeatedly, and or I'm chief, and I said it, 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:31.360 you know, we their hands are not hied in policing 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:33.080 to go out there and do it right. Where I 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:35.160 would argue the problem is that we haven't given them 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:37.360 enough officers to be able to go out there and 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:40.320 do the job when when they're already dramatically understaff they 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:42.920 can't They can't spend the time going after the bad 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:45.560 actors that they know are out there to make sure 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:47.800 that they're getting our streets safer, and what they are 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:50.440 doing and what they're pointing off, given how understaffed they are, 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:53.160 is a herculem feet which is why every year, you know, 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.240 we get into the budget season and I raised this point, 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:58.240 which is we need to hire more officers than firefighters. 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:00.320 It is clear as day those are the most cential 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:02.840 services we provide as a city. We have to provide 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:06.199 them because then if we're still having problems, then we 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:07.720