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Speaker 4: So last night, the story comes out that MLB has

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Speaker 4: approved Phil Castellini having all of the the controlled ownership

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Speaker 4: essentially replacing his dad, Bob Castellini. So Phil Castellini now

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Speaker 4: controls the owner the the main ownership shares, the controlling shares.

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Speaker 4: That's what I was looking for. Phil Astealini owns the

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Speaker 4: More on that Mike Decursi at four thirty three. Some

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Speaker 4: in and above that the Bob Castellini, Phil Castellini thing

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Speaker 4: I'm asking here legitimately. Now, I'm not here to tell

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Speaker 4: I think all of us have our own issues with

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Speaker 4: That's the ownership group that controls the team now has

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Speaker 4: necessarily because Bob Castellini is no longer the main owner

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Speaker 4: but I've wanted this to change now for a while.

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Speaker 4: the MAC Tournament title game, maybe it's a different story.

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Speaker 4: If they lose earlier, the Committee is not going to

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Speaker 4: keep them out. There's my I'll say guarantee. Now, now

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Speaker 4: this may be unprovable because they win all their games

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Speaker 4: and they win the Mac Tournament, or maybe they lose

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Speaker 4: three regular season games between now in early March and

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Speaker 4: still win the MAC Tournament and they get in as

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Speaker 4: an automatic qualifier if they go undefeated. I have a

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Speaker 4: really hard time believing that the Committee is going to

440
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Speaker 4: look at them and say no, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

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Speaker 4: It's happened before, It'll happen many many times in the future. Now,

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Speaker 4: obviously the pushback is going to be, yeah, but what

443
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Speaker 4: about the schedule? Like and Mike writes about this at

444
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Speaker 4: his piece for The Sporting News Number one, I think

445
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Speaker 4: the committee will recognize the difficulty in going through any

446
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Speaker 4: season unbeaten.

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Speaker 2: Mind you, they're not going to be a one seed.

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Speaker 4: They're not going to be two thousand and four Saint Joe's,

449
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Speaker 4: which finished the regular season undefeated and lost to Xavier

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Speaker 4: in the A ten Tournament. They may get in as

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Speaker 4: a thirteen or a fourteen, or you know, something in

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Speaker 4: that range. But I do believe the human beings on

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Speaker 4: the committee will recognize the difficulty in getting through the

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Speaker 4: season unbeaten. Getting through the MAC and Miami's non conference

455
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Speaker 4: schedule without a loss is different than had Arizona gotten

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Speaker 4: through the Big twelve schedule and their non league slate

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Speaker 4: without a loss, they would have been a one seed.

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Speaker 4: Miami is not going to be a one seed. But

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Speaker 4: I do believe Ken could be dead wrong about this,

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Speaker 4: but I do believe that the committee will look at

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Speaker 4: the difficulty in getting through an entire regular season, which

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Speaker 4: I do not care what your schedule is. It's irrelevant,

463
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Speaker 4: it's not irrelevant, but I don't care what your schedule is.

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Speaker 4: To go from early November through the rest of the

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Speaker 4: calendar year, through the first two months of the year

466
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Speaker 4: into March without a loss is extraordinarily difficult to do.

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Speaker 4: I say this about college basketball all the time. We

468
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Speaker 4: undervalue college basketball regular season conference championships, which I believe

469
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Speaker 4: are the true tests of who the really good teams

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Speaker 4: are because you have to get through the dog days,

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Speaker 4: you got to play on the road. Don't have to

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Speaker 4: do that in the NCAA tournament. You got to deal

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Speaker 4: with just all the different variables that come your way

474
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Speaker 4: when you play in conference play a ten eleven twelve

475
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Speaker 4: week regular season that doesn't include you know, November and

476
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Speaker 4: early December when you're playing non league games. I refuse

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Speaker 4: to believe that the committee will look at Miami and

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Speaker 4: go all that was for naught and by the way,

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Speaker 4: and this is also a point Mike makes in his piece,

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Speaker 4: and we'll ask him to perhaps elaborate on when he

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Speaker 4: joins US at five at four thirty five. If it

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Speaker 4: is so easy to get through Miami schedule and they

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Speaker 4: haven't done it yet, so hell, they could lose the

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Speaker 4: night and it's maybe a moot point. But if it's

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Speaker 4: so easy to win every game with a schedule that

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Speaker 4: it's rated I think right now three hundred and forty

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Speaker 4: eighth on Ken Palm in difficulty, why then, hasn't the

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Speaker 4: team with the three hundred and forty ninth schedule gotten

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Speaker 4: through the the season to this point without a loss.

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Speaker 4: Why hasn't the team with the strength of schedule of

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Speaker 4: three thirty nine gotten through its schedule so far without

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Speaker 4: a loss. Like, if it's that easy, all the teams

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Speaker 4: with those schedules would be unbeaten at this point.

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Speaker 2: They're not.

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Speaker 4: So like, all right, the schedule is comparatively weak. That

496
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Speaker 4: is going to drag them down. It is not going

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Speaker 4: to keep them out of the tournament.

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Speaker 2: If they win.

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Speaker 4: And again, man, maybe it's a mood point because they

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Speaker 4: take four losses and then they have to win the

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Speaker 4: MAC Tournament, or maybe they win both, maybe they don't,

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Speaker 4: Maybe they don't lose a game between now in selection Sunday.

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Speaker 4: I hope to hell that's the case. But if the if,

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Speaker 4: the first thing that someone's going to bring up is, yeah,

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Speaker 4: but the schedule, Joel cool, show me another team with

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Speaker 4: a comparable schedule three fifty three fifty two, three thirty

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Speaker 4: six that also has an undefeated record. I believe as

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Speaker 4: interesting of a story as this is, and it will

509
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Speaker 4: be like again, if if they lose on Saturday night

510
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Speaker 4: in the MAC Tournament and that is their first loss Sunday,

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Speaker 4: that's all we're going to talk about. What is the

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Speaker 4: committee going to do with Miami, What's what's gonna happen

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Speaker 4: with the RedHawks. I'm gonna go ahead and guarantee that

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Speaker 4: they will not be on the outside looking in. Seventeen

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Speaker 4: away from four o'clock, we have folks waiting patiently. Five

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Speaker 4: point three seven four nine, fifteen thirty. We'll get to

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Speaker 4: you folks here in just a bit. I will share

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Speaker 4: with you the blurby read today that raise my eyebrows,

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Speaker 4: so to speak. That is next on ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 4: good read today Theathletic Dot Com by see Trent Rosecrans

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Speaker 4: on Hunter Green, who was not traded, And I think

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Speaker 4: the overall crux is the of the piece is the

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Speaker 4: fact that Hunter was not traded, and everybody says really

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Speaker 4: nice things about Hunter Green, even though a lot of

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Speaker 4: folks behind his back last year were exasperated with the

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Speaker 4: slow place so to speak, of his injury return. He's

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Speaker 4: got one more box to check. Like I know him,

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Speaker 4: the Hunter Green guy's got one more box to check.

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Speaker 2: It's a big one.

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Speaker 4: If he can get through a full big league season,

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Speaker 4: he checks that box. If he can get through a

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Speaker 4: full big league season, there is every reason to expect

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Speaker 4: a Hunter Green has an awesome season. I don't know

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Speaker 4: why anybody would bet on anyone who's not Paul Skeens

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Speaker 4: to be nlcayon, So I'm not gonna do that. But like,

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Speaker 4: go back to late late September last year, you could

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Speaker 4: find like smart people who are like you know, what

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Speaker 4: they should do is trade Hunter Green, which would have

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Speaker 4: been an absolutely insane thing to do. Fortunately they did

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Speaker 4: not do it, and they still got their power hitter

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Speaker 4: is reading today. Speaking of stuff to read, ESPN dot

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Speaker 4: Com has their latest This will not be their last,

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Speaker 4: but their latest projections for the season MLB twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 4: Team didn't do what you wanted? This winner and it

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Speaker 4: looks at every team in terms of win average. This

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Speaker 4: is their stockwatch, right, So win average based on the

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Speaker 4: number of simulations they conduct of the entire season, the

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Speaker 4: percentage of time each team makes the postseason, and the

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Speaker 4: percentage of time that each team wins the championship. It

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Speaker 4: will not surprise you that the La Dodgers are at

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Speaker 4: the top of the list with a win average of

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Speaker 4: over one hundred and two, wins in the playoffs close

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Speaker 4: to ninety eight percent of the time, and winning the

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Speaker 4: whole thing twenty nine percent of the time. To illustrate

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Speaker 4: how far ahead of the pack everybody the Dodgers are

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Speaker 4: from everybody else, just in these projections. Team number two,

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Speaker 4: the Atlanta Braves, win average ninety one point two in

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Speaker 4: the playoffs seventy seven and a half percent of the

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Speaker 4: time and champions just over seven and a half percent

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Speaker 4: of the time. So these simulations really really, really, really

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Speaker 4: really really and understandably so like the Dodgers' chance of

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Speaker 4: three peating, and by the way, like I don't subscribe

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Speaker 4: to the whole, like the Dodgers are ruining baseball. The

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Speaker 4: Dodgers are doing what the rules allow. A lot of

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Speaker 4: teams are allowed to do what the Dodgers are doing.

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Speaker 4: I don't hold it against them. But with a labor

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Speaker 4: war looming and it's coming, and a lot of fans

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Speaker 4: feeling hopeless because they don't think their team has any

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Speaker 4: chance of winning, can you imagine what a free peat

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Speaker 4: for the Dodgers will do for that sentiment. For the

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Speaker 4: Reds win average eighty in the playoffs twenty six point

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Speaker 4: nine percent of the time, so a little bit over

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Speaker 4: a quarter of the time. Champions zero point six percent

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Speaker 4: of the time. Hum hmmm, I said, they ask why

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Speaker 4: the heads the Reds? Why the heck didn't the Reds

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Speaker 4: get a new right fielder? And uh, it's it's a

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Speaker 4: fair question. There's also another blurb that looks at this

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Speaker 4: from an over under perspective. Twenty twenty six win total

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Speaker 4: for the Reds eighty two and a half, and with

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Speaker 4: each team, ESPN's writers go over or under. For the Reds,

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Speaker 4: ESPN goes under What raised my eyebrows was the explanation,

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Speaker 4: By the way, going under eighty two and a half

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Speaker 4: wins isn't far fetched. They won eighty three last year.

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Speaker 4: If they win eighty two this year, they go under,

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Speaker 4: that's not that far fetched. But I think what would

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Speaker 4: surprise you would be the explanation the writer here and

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Speaker 4: I did not jot down his name.

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Speaker 6: Rights.

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Speaker 4: My projections are not sold on the Reds being an

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Speaker 4: average MLB team, mostly due to question marks in the rotation.

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Speaker 4: Now that that's got to raise your eyebrows just a

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Speaker 4: little bit, right, because if you're thinking, well, the Reds

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Speaker 4: aren't going to be good enough to win more than

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Speaker 4: eighty two games, it's the offense, the rotations mostly set,

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of high end talent there. It continues,

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Speaker 4: Andrew Abbott has been one of the luckiest pitchers in baseball.

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Speaker 4: Nickoladolo's stuff declined after returning from injury last year, and

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Speaker 4: Chase Burns represents a significant injury risk throw in a

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Speaker 4: weak bullpen, and this pitching staff nearly cracks the bottom

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Speaker 4: five of projected staffs in baseball. Their models project seventy

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Speaker 4: nine point four wins for Cincinnati, so just under seventy

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Speaker 4: nine and a half, even after the addition of a

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Speaker 4: Juhanio Suarez. Now again, if the Reds win fewer than

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Speaker 4: they did last year, it would obviously be extraordinarily disappointing.

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Speaker 2: Heads may roll, so to speak.

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Speaker 4: There's going to be an extreme level of angst and

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Speaker 4: disappointment because the only way last season is a success

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Speaker 4: is if they build upon it this year and do

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Speaker 4: even better. But it wouldn't be surprising because it does

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Speaker 4: feel like there's a relatively low floor offensively. But what

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Speaker 4: would be stunning to me is if you could look

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Speaker 4: at the Reds pitching staff from a metrics perspective and

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Speaker 4: see them among the bottom five staffs in baseball. And

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Speaker 4: there's lots of different ways to measure a pitching staff, right,

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Speaker 4: so you might go well based on era, or based

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Speaker 4: on you know, ops against, or some some may view

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Speaker 4: batting at whatever it is. I certainly understand that for

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Speaker 4: the Reds to be really good this year, every single

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Speaker 4: one of those starting pitchers has to exceed expectation. And

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Speaker 4: maybe that's not maybe that's not the likely outcome, but

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Speaker 4: I still feel like it would be beyond beyond surprising

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Speaker 4: if this pitching staff was such a weakness that you

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Speaker 4: can find a metric that ranks it among the worst

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Speaker 4: five in the sport. So that that's I read this

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Speaker 4: about two twenty this afternoon, and I'm sitting at my

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Speaker 4: desk and I literally was like, WHOA that really that

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Speaker 4: down on the starting staff. I gotta think that's not

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Speaker 4: a majority opinion. Your thoughts are welcome at five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 4: fifteen thirty. I guess at four thirty five, Mike de

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Speaker 4: Corsi your calls between now and then, Thanks to those

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Speaker 4: who have been waiting patiently, We will do that next.

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Speaker 4: I'm Owegor. Thanks for spending part of your Friday with us.

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Speaker 4: All right, three after four, ESPN fifteen thirty, mon Egger,

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Speaker 4: thanks for listening. You're gonna hear You're gonna hear some

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Speaker 4: Phillies experts on Nick Castianos, who the Reds are probably

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00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 4: not gonna sign.

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Speaker 2: And then we're gonna compare him and what's being said

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Speaker 2: about him to what is being said.

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Speaker 4: About a guy who also used to play for the Reds.

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Speaker 4: We'll do that here in just about fifteen minutes. Mike

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Speaker 4: de Corsi from the Sporting News, among other places, on

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Speaker 4: college basketball. He's actually written a column on the Miami RedHawks.

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Speaker 4: That conversation coming up at about thirty minutes, plus the

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Speaker 4: fifteen years that everybody forgets, and something we touched on

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Speaker 4: a little bit yesterday begging the Bengals to play nice

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Speaker 4: with Trey Hendrickson. I don't want to make people wait

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Speaker 4: any longer, so I won't. In fact already saw somebody

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Speaker 4: drop off, which I hate. Mister Ace. You're on ESPN

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Speaker 4: fifteen thirty, mister Ace, how are you?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 7: What ill with you today? Mon? I gotta say early

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Speaker 7: Happy Valentine's Bank.

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Speaker 4: To you and the missus man likewise, likewise, thanks very much.

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Speaker 4: What's on your mind?

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Speaker 8: Man?

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Speaker 7: I am passing out Valentine's Tips sports tips as well

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Speaker 7: as to the listening audience.

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Speaker 2: Let's go, what do you got?

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Speaker 7: Let me see Valentine's Tips Number one for the Cincinnati Rids.

681
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 7: Do right by your fans, Do right by your fan,

682
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 7: Open up your little Penny Wilder or something like that,

683
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 7: Bob kick yourself like a nickel or whatever you gotta do.

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00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 4: I don't know if there's a ticket price increase, I

685
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 4: don't know that it's gonna go and buy a nickel.

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Speaker 2: But yes, do right by your fans. We've waited long enough.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, if you do that, I think you will not

688
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 7: only get a couple of more fans. And plus I

689
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Speaker 7: even got riding in the ride today because we scoop

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Speaker 7: up the young along the next doing Nabors cousin's best friend.

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Speaker 2: Okay, uncle d Okay, Hey, what's.

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Speaker 9: Going what's going on?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 7: Hey, I got one thing.

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Speaker 10: To say about the rid Okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 9: I'm a long time, life, lifelong fan. Yeah, they need

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Speaker 9: to make it more about the team than about Opening Day.

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Speaker 9: People missing work coming down there for Opening Day, and

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Speaker 9: they should make it more about the team.

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Speaker 4: Well, you could do both, right, I mean you you

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Speaker 4: ought to be able to do You ought to be

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Speaker 4: able to like have Opening Day be this big, huge party,

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Speaker 4: but also you know, but also like have a have

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Speaker 4: a team that competes for a championship. It doesn't have

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Speaker 4: to be one of the other. Yeah, the hockey goal

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Speaker 4: we just scored in women's hockey. It's it's too nothing.

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Speaker 4: We just scored again. I'm not sure how good Italy's

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Speaker 4: defense women are, but it's too nothing us second period,

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Speaker 4: the gentlemen, go ahead and finish your points.

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Speaker 9: Right, yeah, nah, he gets I think that you could

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Speaker 9: probably do both. But I think after so many years,

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Speaker 9: and I mean, come on, man, we haven't won a

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Speaker 9: division titles since twenty ten.

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Speaker 2: Come on, man, twenty twelve. But yes, you are correct. Okay,

715
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Speaker 2: there's been way too long.

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Speaker 4: Right now, right now the owners of the longest streak

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Speaker 4: and professional sports without postseason advancement. The Bengals used to

718
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Speaker 4: be a punchline for that, and the Reds are quickly

719
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Speaker 4: becoming one, not just here but around the country for

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Speaker 4: the exact same reason.

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Speaker 2: Right, okay, yeah, how many how many folks? How many

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Speaker 2: folks do you have in the car with you? It's

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Speaker 2: just so okay, gotcha?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but the little kids to be happening for trying

725
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Speaker 7: to call and see who we were picking up?

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Speaker 2: I got you what, man?

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Speaker 7: Also dropping these eximi tips, man, fellers, ladies, spend some money,

728
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Speaker 7: don't wait for the last minute.

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Speaker 2: That don't get you.

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Speaker 7: Some flowers, man, Some money, and definitely even do some

731
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Speaker 7: stuff for the kiddos, leave for the little kids. I mean,

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Speaker 7: we do want to love something song. I can't say

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Speaker 7: like I may shoot. You need to make sure like

734
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Speaker 7: your daughters still appreciate it so she doesn't have somebody

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Speaker 7: do her the wrong way.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 4: Yes, uh, you know, my wife and I do not

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Speaker 4: buy each other anything for Valentine's Day, but we we

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Speaker 4: buy our daughter, not anything huge, but we we sort

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Speaker 4: of lavish her with Valentines instead of each other.

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Speaker 7: Oh yes, no, that's nice and wonderful. A matter of fact,

742
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Speaker 7: missus does not listen to this show. But our school

743
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Speaker 7: person flowers yesterday, I'll clip them today. And I always

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Speaker 7: get like flowers, and I buy like a unique vase

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Speaker 7: because the vase that you buy at the store is

746
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Speaker 7: gonna be garbage. So go to a good will, go

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Speaker 7: to the secondhand store.

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Speaker 10: Find you a.

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Speaker 7: Cool vase and a color she likes. Or you can

750
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Speaker 7: always be false to red. And I mean she not

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Speaker 7: hook that mug up. Make sure you clip the so

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Speaker 7: you would some flower food, so you would penny in

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Speaker 7: that mug. Hey, they will last clip them every two days.

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Speaker 7: They will last for a long time.

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Speaker 2: These are very helpful to talk.

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Speaker 7: Oh hey, I tell you out to some free nugas today. Man,

757
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Speaker 7: if you get you multiple bases, you could split them

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Speaker 7: up and have some up next to her side of

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Speaker 7: the bed as well as in other places in the house.

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Speaker 7: And it makes the house smell really good.

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Speaker 2: It does. The smell of fresh flowers is uh is

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Speaker 2: hard to beat.

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Speaker 7: And I got another tip for the single fellers.

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Speaker 6: Okay, if you're.

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Speaker 9: Managing more than one, don't buy them, and don't buy

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Speaker 9: them on the same credit cards.

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Speaker 4: That's probably that's probably good advice. Yes, although buying the

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Speaker 4: same gift would mean that it's easy to keep track

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Speaker 4: of what you bought because what you don't want to do.

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Speaker 4: And again, I've never been in this set of circumstances

771
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Speaker 4: is you buy one one thing and then you buy

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Speaker 4: the other another thing, but you kind of confuse and

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Speaker 4: then it comes up later in conversation. It's like, hey,

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Speaker 4: remember when I bought you that necklace. You never bought

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Speaker 4: me a necklace, and it's like your caught. So maybe

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Speaker 4: it does make sense to buy the same thing.

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Speaker 11: Make sense?

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Speaker 2: Ye see, I'm I'm thinking, all well.

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Speaker 4: I hope you guys get everything you want. And deserve

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Speaker 4: on Valentine's Day. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Thank you all right there, I like I like that

782
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Speaker 2: should be a larger staple of our show.

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Speaker 4: The group phone call, which you know you think about

784
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 4: it with how like you know car play and stuff works.

785
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 4: Now you plug the phone in, everybody can talk. I

786
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 4: think we need more phone calls like that, where the

787
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Speaker 4: phone is on, we put the call through and then

788
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Speaker 4: everybody in the car can chime in.

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Speaker 6: Everybody should talk. Yeah, if you're calling a radio show

790
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Speaker 6: with more and you know it's just more than you

791
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 6: and a car, everyone has to talk.

792
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Speaker 4: Everybody has to talk. Yeah, everybody. Everybody's allowed to say something.

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Speaker 4: I that should be a new We're gonna start encourage.

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Speaker 4: So don't let the fact that somebody's in the car

795
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Speaker 4: with you prevent you from calling the show. Just you know,

796
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 4: it's on Bluetooth or it's car play or whatever. And

797
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Speaker 4: Android Auto, I don't know, I don't know Android anymore.

798
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Speaker 4: But you put the phone in, put the call through,

799
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Speaker 4: and then everybody gets a chance to talk, and it

800
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Speaker 4: works out that way. I told somebody in the office

801
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Speaker 4: today that my wife and I really don't do anything

802
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Speaker 4: for Valentine's Day. And he looked at me like I

803
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Speaker 4: had four heads. We my wife and I, Oh, I

804
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Speaker 4: have sound the horn, terarn, sound the horn. We scored again.

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Speaker 2: Three nothing.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry your TV stases of mine sor right?

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Speaker 2: Three nothing?

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Speaker 4: The United States has scored again fifteen oh nine to go.

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Speaker 4: In the second period, when my wife and I first

810
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Speaker 4: started dating, we didn't believe in like ground rules. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know, the basic stuff, right, you know, like, hey,

812
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 4: once we're dating, it's like just you and I like

813
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 4: but like it was not.

814
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Speaker 2: A lot of ground rules.

815
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Speaker 4: But I remember we had a conversation early on and

816
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Speaker 4: it was like, look, we don't really prioritize gifts, like

817
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Speaker 4: and we don't we don't know, I mean just I've

818
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Speaker 4: never been a you know, big into like here are

819
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 4: the gifts I want. But we we laid down, like,

820
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Speaker 4: you know, we're we're not going to do sweet when

821
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Speaker 4: I've never done Sweetest Day. I don't know anybody above

822
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Speaker 4: the age of thirteen or taran who does Sweetest Day.

823
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Speaker 4: And we're not really going to do Valentine's Day. We're

824
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Speaker 4: not really that's just not going to be a big

825
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 4: part of our life. Well, we buy each other, you know, gifts,

826
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Speaker 4: you know, try to be thoughtful. If there's something, hey,

827
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Speaker 4: I think she would like and I see it, we

828
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 4: do it. Try to surprise each other. A surprise gift

829
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 4: is awesome.

830
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Speaker 2: We do that.

831
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Speaker 4: We don't do Valentine's Day gifts. Our Valentine's Day Tomorrow.

832
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 4: My daughter's got a basketball game and then there's going

833
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 4: to be like the three of us going to have

834
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Speaker 4: dinner somewhere. So I told somebody that today and they

835
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 4: looked at me like I had three heads. And then

836
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Speaker 4: he proceeded to tell me like how much money he

837
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Speaker 4: had spent on Valentine's Day. And it's like and whatever works,

838
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 4: whatever works for each couple, for us just not a

839
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 4: big priority. Uh let's see here, Mike, go ahead. You're

840
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 4: on the air, but you're on probation, and I'll tell

841
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 4: you why. Okay, Oh, well, you called Tony's show before

842
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 4: and uh he tried to put you on, and uh,

843
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 4: you weren't there, so he moved on. And then you

844
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 4: send him a nasty email, and uh, you know you can't.

845
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 4: We we love having you on the show, but when

846
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 4: when we don't get to put you on, you don't

847
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 4: have to send us a nasty email.

848
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 10: Well, okay, there's reasons for that, but I won't get

849
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 10: into it now because it involves serious health issues.

850
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 4: So every okay, But I mean I understand, I know

851
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 4: you're dealing with a lot, but like you know, like

852
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 4: just the we we we put your call on and

853
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 4: we we like we appreciate your loyalty, and you're an

854
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 4: awesome listener and a wonderful guy, and you know, we

855
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 4: we we have a lot of folks who ask about

856
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 4: you and stuff, but like you know, well, on the

857
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 4: days we don't get to you, that's a fire off

858
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 4: of me.

859
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 6: Email.

860
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 10: No, I just had a scary situation with medicine that

861
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 10: almost put me out, So that's why I couldn't answer.

862
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 2: So anyway, but you don't have to send a nasty email.

863
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, okay, and I get it. I get it. Thank

864
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 10: you for correcting me, Dad. Okay, the uh, I think

865
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Speaker 10: the smell of fresh flowers. I prefer the smell of

866
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 10: fresh money than the smell of fresh flowers.

867
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but do you just have fresh money hanging around

868
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 2: the house?

869
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 10: Try to right, So, No, I'm very blessed. Actually, there's

870
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 10: a lady in San Diego that once a week sends

871
00:48:54,719 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 10: me beautiful bouquets of flowers. Uh. And it makes me day,

872
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 10: but not just my day, but the guys around me.

873
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 10: So it's a beautiful thing and are very grateful for that,

874
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 10: very nice.

875
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 7: I got one quick.

876
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,919
Speaker 10: Thing about sorry Tom a minute.

877
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 2: We got to sound the goal.

878
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 4: We scored again. We are we are destroying Italy. It's

879
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 4: now for nothing under fourteen minutes ago in the second period.

880
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 2: Mike, go ahead and continue.

881
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 10: I think it's a good idea. You should do that

882
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 10: whenever I make my full pause.

883
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 2: You should do sound a horn.

884
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 4: Every time you send one of us a nasty email,

885
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 4: will blow a horn and that's all you'll hear on

886
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 4: the show.

887
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 7: I don't think it's that bad. I hope not.

888
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 10: If it is, and I should say.

889
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: Well, Tony's really mad, he's hurt.

890
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 4: I mean I talked to him at the end of

891
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 4: his show and he's he's deeply he's deeply, deeply hurt.

892
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 10: Well, I sending the text and apologize anyway. I was

893
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 10: interested in your comments earlier about UH. I think it

894
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 10: involved with it was involved with revenue team revenue in

895
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 10: the in the MLB. But here's what I here's what

896
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 10: I did a little research on MLB. You know, everybody,

897
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 10: you know, You've been great at defending the Dodgers was

898
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 10: playing within the rules. Toronto spent more money on free

899
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 10: agency last year and this year than the Dodgers did.

900
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 10: They gave Vladimir Guerrero five hundred million dollars and he

901
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 10: ain't show hao time. Okay, okay, so back off, folks,

902
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 10: And I'm looking at total revenue and it's and it

903
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 10: the Reds right now.

904
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 4: I think I think the I think the Vladimir Guerrero

905
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 4: thing has looked at a little bit differently because he

906
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 4: didn't switch teams. He stayed with the Blue Jays, So

907
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 4: I think it's still a team spending money. But I

908
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 4: think it's looked at a little bit differently because Vladimir

909
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 4: Guerrero didn't join the Blue Jays as a free agent.

910
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, but I mean, Gush Shohey was with the Angels

911
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 10: for about seven years. It wasn't like he was just

912
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 10: running around like that.

913
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 4: No, but he I think I think the way I

914
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 4: think the reason it gets talked about differently is sho

915
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 4: Heeyo Tani signed with the Dodgers as a free agent.

916
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 4: Vladimir Guerrero did not sign with the Blue Jays as

917
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 4: a free agent.

918
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I get to that does make sense, thank you.

919
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 10: I was looking at total revenue and percentage wise with

920
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 10: player salary, and like the Yankees, the Yankees and the

921
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 10: Dodgers pretty much had the same total revenue last year

922
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 10: about seven hundred and fifty minion. But the difference between

923
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 10: the Yankees and the Dodgers was the Yankees spent forty

924
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 10: five percent on player money and the Dodgers spent seventy

925
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 10: five percent on player money.

926
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 2: Did you do this did you do this research yourself?

927
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 7: Yeah?

928
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 10: Plus I heard heard a guy talking about it too,

929
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 10: and then I looked it up.

930
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 7: You can google it.

931
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 10: And the Mets, the Mets. This is how screwed up

932
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 10: the Mets are. They spent ninety percent of total revenue

933
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 10: on players last year and still came up as a

934
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 10: doug Yeah.

935
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I don't Yeah, I don't believe in criticizing

936
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 4: owners who try to win. I think Baseball's biggest issue

937
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 4: when it comes to owners are the ones that don't

938
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 4: try to win. And I think one of the craziest

939
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 4: things that has happened in my lifetime, and I've talked

940
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 4: about this before, is there are there are there's a

941
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 4: chunk of big league owners, and some of them are

942
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 4: in big markets who have almost convinced their fans that

943
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 4: they should root for the owner of their favorite team

944
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 4: to save money and make more money, more so than

945
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 4: rooting for the on field product. That has happened in

946
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 4: my lifetime. But at the end of the day, Mike,

947
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 4: like this, this entire labor discussion, which I will admit

948
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 4: bores most people, but I think is the most part

949
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 4: kind of interesting. At the end of the day, the

950
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 4: biggest problem the sport has is fan perception fan belief,

951
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 4: because right or wrong, you still have way too many

952
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 4: people who believe they love the sport. They love the game,

953
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 4: but they believe their team has little to no chance

954
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 4: to win. And I don't know that under the current

955
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 4: system that Major League Baseball teams or Major League Baseball

956
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 4: as an institution, is going to dissuade people from feeling

957
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 4: that way. Yeah, and by the way, like you know,

958
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 4: I think about the Dodgers a lot because I hear

959
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 4: all the criticisms aimed at him, and this is something

960
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 4: you and I have talked about. They have an enormous

961
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 4: financial advantage over most teams that goes without saying, but

962
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 4: they've also been great at a very long time at

963
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 4: player development, at having a farm system that just continually

964
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 4: cranks out really good homegrown players. They're really good at

965
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 4: filling out the bottom end of their roster, and a

966
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 4: number of those players at the bottom end of the

967
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 4: roster during their postseason runs have have had big contributions.

968
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 4: They have first rate facilities. Like there's more than just

969
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 4: spending a bunch of money, and all of those things

970
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 4: will probably still continue if Baseball decides to equal things

971
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 4: up when it comes to what teams can spend on

972
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 4: player payroll. But like, this is an inescapable thing that

973
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 4: baseball players and owners are going to have to figure

974
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 4: out a way to confront. And I say this as

975
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 4: somebody who philosophically, and I know I've told you this before.

976
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,240
Speaker 4: I don't believe in salary caps. I think the idea

977
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 4: behind a salary cap is to control employee cost, and

978
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 4: I think it's it's really to control, you know what,

979
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 4: or better enhance team valuations, which lag behind NBA and

980
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 4: NFL teams. But the reality is, you have a lot

981
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 4: of fans who believe my team has no chance to win,

982
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 4: and so I would ask, either with a salary cap

983
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 4: or in the absence of a salary cap, how is

984
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 4: an institution baseball going to rectify that? There are other

985
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 4: sports that have perception issues. Right now, the NBA has

986
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 4: a major tanking problem. Tanking is not new. Tanking has

987
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 4: been happening in the NBA for decades. But you have

988
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 4: teams in early February, even before we get to the

989
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,919
Speaker 4: All Star break, who are actively not trying to win,

990
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 4: and so you have fans saying, like, all right, why

991
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 4: invest in this sport emotionally? If the stars are going

992
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 4: to sit on a regular basis, and if you have

993
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 4: a large chunk of teams that aren't even trying to

994
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 4: execute the basics of winning basketball games, how is the

995
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 4: NBA going to fix that. It's got to rectify something

996
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 4: that has been proven to work. By the way, there's

997
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 4: dozens of examples in that sport of tanking working. But

998
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 4: it's not good for the health. Yes, it's not good

999
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 4: for the health of the league. It's not good for

1000
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 4: the health of the relationship that fans have with the

1001
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 4: league Baseball. It's not tanking, although that has been a

1002
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,720
Speaker 4: problem in this sport, but it's how people feel about

1003
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 4: their team's chances of winning. So at the end of

1004
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 4: the day, as much as we're going to be bored

1005
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 4: by the exchange of salary cap versus non salary cap

1006
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 4: and what to do with all the league revenue and

1007
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 4: the ins and outs of the CBA, what I want

1008
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 4: to know at the end of whatever they do, whether

1009
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 4: it's a protracted lockout, whether it's a CBA that has

1010
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 4: a salary cap, whether it's no salary cap, what is

1011
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 4: baseball done as an institution to get people to believe,

1012
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 4: you know what, my team's got a shot. Because right now, Mike,

1013
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 4: right or wrong, you have millions of people who believe

1014
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 4: their team has no chance of winning. That's a problem.

1015
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 10: That is a problem. Well quick, let me do this. Yeah,

1016
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 10: and I heard, you know, Richard Patino, what a great

1017
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 10: postgame interview he had last night land or whatever the

1018
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 10: interview was, land down has four vocal points, whatever you

1019
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,280
Speaker 10: call it. I thought that was just outstanding. But tonight

1020
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 10: tomorrow with Florida and Kentucky. This Florida team, now, I

1021
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 10: think when they get to march Man is going to

1022
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 10: be really dangerous again because their first and offensive rebound,

1023
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 10: they their second and defensive reboundy. They're playing intense defense now.

1024
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 10: Jinn Alou is a beast on the glass. The two

1025
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 10: guards Lee and Planned aren't joke. I think Yukon and

1026
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 10: Arizona and Houston better watch out for Florida.

1027
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 4: Yeah. I couldn't agree more, Mike, Thanks very much, Kentucky

1028
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 4: and Florida tomorrow is huge at the.

1029
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 2: End of the day.

1030
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 4: And by the way, send TONI a note because you

1031
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 4: said something mean about his show.

1032
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 6: Come on.

1033
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, man, and like it's

1034
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 4: going to dominate baseball discourse. That is inescapable. College basketball

1035
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 4: has an issue right now. The college basketball encore product

1036
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 4: is amazing. The college football on field product is awesome.

1037
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 4: But there are and you know it's not exclusive to

1038
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 4: one or the other. But you have folks who love

1039
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 4: their alma mater or love their favorite program who will

1040
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 4: tell you my interest in the individual program isn't what

1041
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 4: it used to be because I don't have as much

1042
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 4: of a connection to the players because they don't have

1043
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 4: as much of a connection to the school. And I

1044
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 4: think that's inescapable. So college basketball is an institution which

1045
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 4: there's no collective bargaining in college basketball. In college football.

1046
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 4: That's got to be rectified. You have a perception problem

1047
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 4: in the NBA. You've got like six to eight teams

1048
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 4: who in February are blatantly not trying. A tanking itself

1049
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 4: isn't new, but tanking this blatant, that's a problem. What's

1050
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 4: not a problem is the United States is destroying Italy.

1051
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 2: It's now five nothing, eight thirty one.

1052
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 4: The United States has thirty three shots on goal, Italy

1053
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 4: has two. Italy's coach has got a really nice suit,

1054
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 4: but he's losing his mind. A lot of hockey coaches

1055
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 4: wear suits. Baseball's issue is whether you are pro salary cap,

1056
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 4: whether you're anti salary cap, whether you believe that players

1057
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 4: are greedy or owners, whatever side you want to take,

1058
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 4: and I'm not even sure you have to take a side.

1059
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 4: Like at the end of the day, my side is

1060
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 4: I want the sport to thrive and I want more

1061
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 4: people to enjoy it the way I do. But you

1062
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 4: have a lot of folks who are like, man, I

1063
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 4: love baseball, love going to the ballpark. I want it

1064
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 4: to be a bigger part of my life. But like,

1065
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 4: why pay a close of attention, why invest emotionally if

1066
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 4: my team has no chance, and the reasons why your

1067
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 4: team might not have a chance is maybe more due

1068
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 4: to ownership than baseball's rules. But still, if you have that,

1069
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 4: you've got to rectify that. And so what I want

1070
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 4: to know at the end of the lockout which is

1071
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,439
Speaker 4: going to happen and the subsequent CBA that will come

1072
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 4: from it, what has been done to make people feel like,

1073
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 4: you know what, my team has more of a chance.

1074
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,880
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Speaker 4: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Moegar. This is his favorite

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Speaker 4: type of radio segment. Mike Deporsi from the Sporting News

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Speaker 4: he has to catch everybody up who has been too

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Speaker 4: busy watching football to watch any college basketball and what's

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Speaker 4: happening in college hoops.

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Speaker 2: So I appreciate you doing this as always, Mike, how

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Speaker 2: are you?

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Speaker 8: I'm great, mow and I always admire the people who

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Speaker 8: spend their entire weeks breaking down game film, making sure

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Speaker 8: they're at top of like what the Pagets are up

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Speaker 8: to because you can't find two hours to watch a

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Speaker 8: college hoops game, right.

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Speaker 4: Well, not when you're doing mock drafts and preparing your

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Speaker 4: free agency big board.

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Speaker 6: No, no, it happens.

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Speaker 2: You've been kind enough to join me.

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Speaker 4: For years, we've never started our conversations by talking about

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Speaker 4: the Miami RedHawks, but here we are. You've written about them.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's funny we do this. We did this

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Speaker 4: with UC football in twenty twenty one, where there's like

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Speaker 4: preemptive anger. What's going to happen if they win every

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Speaker 4: game and don't get into the College football Playoff?

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Speaker 2: We're doing that with Miami.

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Speaker 4: But I can't help but ask if they run the

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Speaker 4: table in the regular season and then stub their toe

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Speaker 4: in Cleveland in the MAC Tournament, how are they going

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Speaker 4: to be viewed by the committee?

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Speaker 2: Well, if that.

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Speaker 8: Happens, First of all, it depends on when they stub

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Speaker 8: their toe. It depends a little, at least a little.

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Speaker 8: You wouldn't want to do that in the quarters. And

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Speaker 8: given the fact that it'll probably work out that Kenton

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Speaker 8: Ackern would be in the opposite semi so you couldn't

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Speaker 8: face either of them. If I'm if it turns out

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Speaker 8: the way one would expect, you couldn't face either of

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Speaker 8: them until the final. Then even a semi loss wouldn't

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Speaker 8: look great because there are only three really good teams

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Speaker 8: in the MAC this year. I'm not saying that everybody

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Speaker 8: else is awful, but they're not as I As I

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Speaker 8: wrote in my column today, which you can find if

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Speaker 8: you're a if you're a RedHawks fan, you can find

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Speaker 8: it at TSN Mike today, the MAC has always been

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Speaker 8: the most balance of conferences, and this time it just

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Speaker 8: happens that the balance is all at five hundred or below.

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Speaker 8: The excellences with Kent and Miami and of course Akron,

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Speaker 8: but the rest kind of not having a great year.

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Speaker 8: So my recommendation would be to win them all at

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Speaker 8: least until the final, and then I think that if

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Speaker 8: you lose in the final to Akron or Kent, there's

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Speaker 8: just no way you could say no to them. And

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Speaker 8: for me, it would then just be a question of

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Speaker 8: how high they get seated, would they have to go

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Speaker 8: through Dayton, that that sort of thing, and I I

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Speaker 8: it's hard to know now exactly what the parameters would

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Speaker 8: be for them in that circumstance because you don't know

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Speaker 8: what everybody else is doing in that neighborhood. But I

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Speaker 8: would I would think the word I used was ridiculous.

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Speaker 8: I think if if that in that scenario, the one

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Speaker 8: I presented, they were excluded.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: You know, Travis Steel has had an answer, including with us,

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Speaker 4: a lot of questions about his schedule, and he's you know, look, hey,

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Speaker 4: I've we've tried to schedule everybody.

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Speaker 2: We can't get anybody to play us. And I don't

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Speaker 2: buy that. Go ahead expand on that go ahead.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's that's not that's that's not true. I mean, look,

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Speaker 8: if you call Duke and Duke says no, obviously we tried,

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Speaker 8: you know, and I'm not I'm not holding this just

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Speaker 8: to Travis. This is the entire mid major operation, with

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Speaker 8: the exception of Akron and a few others ACRO like

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Speaker 8: you look at Akron's schedule a year going. John knew

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Speaker 8: he had a stud team. He knew they were gonna

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Speaker 8: be really good. John Gross for those who don't know that,

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Speaker 8: he's the coach at ACRA. When John knew he had

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Speaker 8: a really good team, they played Saint Mary's, they played

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Speaker 8: a lot of other teams what the mid majors often do.

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Speaker 8: And again this is not about Travis, because I don't

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Speaker 8: think he realized they were going to be this good.

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Speaker 8: I think he thought they would be a mac and tender,

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Speaker 8: not what they are. Okay. So what they often do

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Speaker 8: is say, Okay, well we can't get a game against

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Speaker 8: Indiana or Kentucky or whomever, and then they just go

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Speaker 8: ahead and do whatever, and then they and then they

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Speaker 8: blame it on the system. And that's just like what

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Speaker 8: I always say is, look, there's a lot of teams

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Speaker 8: I can give you right now, Okay, as I'm looking

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Speaker 8: at the resume metrics here at number thirty five is Miami, Okay.

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Speaker 8: Number thirty eight is Santa Clara. Number number forty four

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Speaker 8: is VCU. Number forty five is New Mexico. Number forty

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Speaker 8: nine is San Diego State. Number fifty one is Belmont.

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Speaker 8: Number fifty four is George Mason, Number fifty five is Liberty.

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Speaker 8: They are all top fifty five teams in the resume

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Speaker 8: metric average. And did they play one another like and

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Speaker 8: help enhance their resumes like that? No, you don't know why.

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Speaker 8: For the same reason that a lot of teams that

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Speaker 8: are in the high major level don't play a lot

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Speaker 8: of other high major teams because they don't want to

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Speaker 8: diminish their records and their chances of getting in. So

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Speaker 8: I don't have any sympathy in that regard. I have

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Speaker 8: a lot of sympathy for, hey, wow, we're really good.

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Speaker 8: I mean, we're winning every game and like, and everybody's

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Speaker 8: dissing that. No, like if it were easy, Like for

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Speaker 8: twenty five years, somebody's had the three hundred and forty

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Speaker 8: third schedule, which is what it was the last time

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Speaker 8: I looked at for twenty five years, and none of

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Speaker 8: them came close to going undefeated. So even if you're

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Speaker 8: playing the three hundred and forty third schedule, what they're

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Speaker 8: doing is really hard and so hard that no one's

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Speaker 8: even coming close to it. So please don't tell me

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Speaker 8: it's a product of the schedule. Does this schedule impact it, Yes,

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Speaker 8: but you still have to go out and win every

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Speaker 8: basketball game, and that's astonishingly difficult.

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Speaker 4: No question, And from my perspective, a lot of fun

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Speaker 4: to watch that campus community, which that program's been dormant

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Speaker 4: for this century, watch that campus community come alive. The

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Speaker 4: season is not going great at the university of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: Barring a miracle, how do you anticipate things playing out

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Speaker 4: in Clifton, Boy.

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Speaker 8: It's hard to say, really because you know what the

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Speaker 8: buyout details are. And what the disappointment for me is

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Speaker 8: that I know that that Wes is a very capable coach,

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Speaker 8: but I think there has been too much chasing talent

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Speaker 8: and not enough building a program, not enough building a culture,

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Speaker 8: a winning culture. This is who we are, this is

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Speaker 8: what we do. It's what mix succeeded at at a

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Speaker 8: high light level early on in a very difficult Big

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Speaker 8: East where they had to make the transition from I

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Speaker 8: find an American conference to an excellent Big East and

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Speaker 8: he had to do that with very few talented players

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Speaker 8: because of the end of the Huggins regime. But he's

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Speaker 8: set a standard, and I think that's where Wes has

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Speaker 8: missed that they haven't set the standard for this is

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Speaker 8: who we're going to be. I never really know what

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Speaker 8: they're going to be now from night to night, but

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Speaker 8: from year to year, I just didn't know exactly what

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Speaker 8: Cincinnati basketball wanted to be. And that's the frustrating part

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Speaker 8: about watching this develop over the last four or five years.

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Speaker 4: You know, I talked about the Houston Cougars all the time,

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Speaker 4: and to the annoyance I'm sure of some of my audience,

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Speaker 4: because what I love most about that program is I

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Speaker 4: can close my eyes and I can picture a Houston player.

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Speaker 2: I know what that team is going to look like.

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Speaker 4: And over the last couple of years they've been more

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Speaker 4: refined offensively than you know what they or when when

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Speaker 4: Kelvin Sampson really started winning there. And I always say, like,

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Speaker 4: I admire what they are able to do in an

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Speaker 4: era where it's increasingly difficult to have a program identity

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Speaker 4: because of all of the roster turnover. So how much

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Speaker 4: for a program like you see where you just don't

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Speaker 4: know year and a year out what you're going to

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Speaker 4: get can you attribute just to the era that we're

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Speaker 4: in where year to year you may have a new.

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Speaker 12: Team, but that's everybody, so that that's the universe in

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Speaker 12: which you're competing, So you're your struggle within that era

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Speaker 12: is either.

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Speaker 8: To do a good enough job of building, like I said,

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Speaker 8: with with what you want to be, of retaining the

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Speaker 8: players who fit that and and want to be part

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Speaker 8: of it, and or generating enough funds to make sure

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Speaker 8: either of those things happen, and I you know, the

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Speaker 8: third part of that is probably the one that's in

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Speaker 8: the least element of control for the coach, but the

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Speaker 8: first two are are are very much within your control.

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01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 8: Whether that producers victories or not is not but what

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Speaker 8: you want to be as a team is within your control.

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Speaker 8: And I've seen coaches and programs make the mistake of

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Speaker 8: you look at k State, which came in and had

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Speaker 8: the when when Jerome Tank took over, they came in

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Speaker 8: and he had the elite aid and I think they

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Speaker 8: got really excited about that about what could happen, and

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Speaker 8: they went out chasing talent and they and they forgot

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Speaker 8: about the fact that Marquise Noel stuck around at a

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Speaker 8: program where he wasn't or where the guy who'd recruited

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Speaker 8: him had left, and he could have easily gone out

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Speaker 8: and gone somewhere else and said, okay, I'm you know,

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Speaker 8: I'm I'm on the market, so to speak, and he

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Speaker 8: stuck around and they had culture that year, and you'd

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Speaker 8: see that at places around the country, even Kansas, a

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Speaker 8: championship team at twenty twenty two, went chasing talent subsequent

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Speaker 8: to that and had two of the worst years Bill

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Speaker 8: selves had, and they went back saying, Okay, wait a second, Okay,

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Speaker 8: we're still gonna get there, Peterson, we can get them,

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Speaker 8: but we're gonna get guys like Melvin Counsel. And they

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Speaker 8: recruited flor but don't get to to build with. And

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Speaker 8: now they have, they have their program again. He's one

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Speaker 8: of the greatest coaches of all time, so and he's

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Speaker 8: got one. He's coaching one of the greatest programs of

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Speaker 8: all time. So the path is a little bit easier,

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Speaker 8: but it's still a function of he realized that he

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Speaker 8: had made a mistake in how he was approaching it,

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Speaker 8: and then went and adopted and readopted the course he

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Speaker 8: followed for years.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Mike, of course from the Sporting News is with us.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 4: There was a time in mid November I thought Xavier

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Speaker 4: might win between six and eight games.

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Speaker 2: They've succeeded. That was right there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I mean I watched him, not just against

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Speaker 4: Santa Clara where they got destroyed, but I watched him

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Speaker 4: play a game against Lemoyne and I'm going.

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Speaker 2: Like, what is this?

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Speaker 4: And they've had some games get away from him, some

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Speaker 4: winnable games. It still has felt to me like Richard

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Speaker 4: Patino has gotten as much out of that group of

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Speaker 4: players as you can ask any coach, what's your assessment

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Speaker 4: if you're one of the Richard Patino ear Xavier, And.

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Speaker 8: That's kind of exactly what I'm saying, is that Richard

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Speaker 8: has gone about setting a standard even though the talent

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Speaker 8: isn't there to compete at the top of the Big

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Speaker 8: East currently. Some of them might develop in that direction,

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Speaker 8: but those who stick around, either as if they're able

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Speaker 8: to become continue to be starters, or if they become

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Speaker 8: program players, they can still say, Okay, here's how you

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Speaker 8: play for this guy, and here's how you succeed to

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Speaker 8: whoever comes in later. And I think that he's done

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Speaker 8: a terrific job in his first year. I didn't love

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Speaker 8: the roster construction, but I don't know exactly when you

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Speaker 8: become a coach late. Different programs have different parameters and

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Speaker 8: different challenges, and so we both looked at that roster

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Speaker 8: and said that does not look good. And when they

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Speaker 8: went on the floor, it looked maybe even less good

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Speaker 8: than what we'd imagined. And yet they have been highly competitive.

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Speaker 8: I thought they were Saint John's game this past Monday,

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Speaker 8: and I know they did it both times, but I'm

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Speaker 8: not sure I watched the first one, but the second one,

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Speaker 8: I was really impressed with how hard they competed in

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Speaker 8: that game, and I think it votes very well for

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Speaker 8: the future of Xavier basketball when they get back to

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Speaker 8: having a higher level of talent.

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Speaker 4: A little bit more than twenty four hours from now,

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Speaker 4: Kentucky could be in first place in the SEC. And

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Speaker 4: you know, watching them play at times this year, you

1354
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 4: talk about a sentence I didn't think i'd be saying

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Speaker 4: in mid February, it's that, and give me the same thing.

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Speaker 4: Assessment of year two, Mark POPEA Kentucky with the injuries

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Speaker 4: they've had.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I got really frustrated halfway through the year when

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Speaker 8: or maybe it wasn't even quite halfway in advance of

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Speaker 8: the Indiana and Saint John's wins, when people were totally

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Speaker 8: giving up on them. And I don't think at that

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Speaker 8: point they've even gotten and any play out of Jalen Low,

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Speaker 8: I don't think he'd even appeared on the floor. And

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Speaker 8: and I just couldn't believe how much criticism there was.

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Speaker 8: And I think some of it from the media comes

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Speaker 8: because they're in they're convenient target, you criticize Kentucky and

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Speaker 8: the clicks go click, click click, Uh, And I think

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Speaker 8: that was that was a good segment of that. But

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Speaker 8: the fan base, Uh, maybe maybe we amplify too much

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Speaker 8: of the of the extremes on a fan base when

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Speaker 8: something like that happens, and maybe we don't pay enough

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Speaker 8: attention to what's going on at large in that group.

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Speaker 8: But I thought any reaction in that direction was preposterous.

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Speaker 8: I mean, a year ago, he had a terrific point

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Speaker 8: guard who started in the Final four elsewhere, of course,

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Speaker 8: Lamont Butler, who was injured two thirds of the way

1377
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Speaker 8: through the season when he was trending toward a second

1378
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 8: team All America season, and they still with that, and

1379
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 8: with losing Jackson Robinson for the year, they still made

1380
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Speaker 8: the Sweet sixteen. And so like, how do you what

1381
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Speaker 8: do you think he got stupid.

1382
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Speaker 2: In three months? I mean, that's not how life works.

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Speaker 8: So I've been pleased to see that he has reformulated

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01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 8: this group and found a way to be successful. And

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01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:23,520
Speaker 8: that's what shows how really gifted he is that without

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01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 8: Jalen Lowe, he's found a way to be highly competitive

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Speaker 8: in an SEC that's going to send minimum nine teams

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01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 8: to the NCAA Tournament at maximum eleven.

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Speaker 10: That's pretty good to be first, or check or third

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Speaker 10: in that league.

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Speaker 4: You may have heard many believe that college basketball is

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Speaker 4: at a tipping point, that the future of the sport

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Speaker 4: is in peril, despite the fact that the encore product

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Speaker 4: has been terrific this year. This year's infusion of talent

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01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 4: has been unbelievable. I read about the nc DOUAA losing

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Speaker 4: in court with one glaring exception this week on what

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Speaker 4: feels like a daily basis, So I'm sure we could

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Speaker 4: talk about this for an hour. But there is there

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Speaker 4: a common sense, realistic and that might be the right word,

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Speaker 4: realistic fix for college basketball to I don't know, rein

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Speaker 4: in a lot of the chaos that seems to compromise

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Speaker 4: a lot of people's relationship with the sport.

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Speaker 8: Well, the common sense approach is collective bargaining, but they

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Speaker 8: don't want to do that. That's why they've spent the

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Speaker 8: last two to three years. However long it's been since

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Speaker 8: Charlie Baker came in in court excuse me, in Congress

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Speaker 8: and of course in court from the other direction. But

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Speaker 8: that's why it's been that way because they don't want

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Speaker 8: to go in the collective bargaining direction because they don't

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Speaker 8: understand or don't seem to want to grasp that it

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Speaker 8: is possible to do that without designating the athletes or

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Speaker 8: accepting the athletes or whatever verbias you want to use

1413
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Speaker 8: as employees. They don't have to be employees for you

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Speaker 8: to collectively bargain with them. And I know this now

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Speaker 8: because I was listening to one of the one of

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Speaker 8: the men who is trying to organize who's pushing the

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Speaker 8: unions or whatever or whatever you want to call him association, uh,

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Speaker 8: And he brought up the concept of the Screen Actors Guild,

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Speaker 8: where like, if you work on a TV show, you

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Speaker 8: work for the TV show. You don't work for the

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Speaker 8: studio that funds or produces that TV show or a movie. Brat,

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Speaker 8: when Brad Pitt goes to work on a picture, he

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Speaker 8: works for that picture and so and it's different as

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Speaker 8: a result, you don't you know, he doesn't get benefits

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Speaker 8: from uh, from I don't know, Fox, or or United

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Speaker 8: Artists or whoever's left producing films.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 8: He gets he gets up, he gets a salary. And

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Speaker 8: there are standards that have to be met in terms

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Speaker 8: of how he's treated and all that, and UH and

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Speaker 8: his fellow actors have a minimum in terms of what

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Speaker 8: they have to make. He's never worried about the minimum,

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Speaker 8: but they they have different situations like that. And I

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Speaker 8: think that that can work in athletics. I think it

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Speaker 8: makes perfect sense and it translates very well, and I

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Speaker 8: think that's the one way we can get there.

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Speaker 2: Makes sense to me. I'm not going to be holding

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Speaker 2: my breath.

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Speaker 4: We'll see. Can't thank you enough. Always awesome to have

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Speaker 4: you have a great weekend, man.

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Speaker 8: Thanks so much, pleasure, Thank you.

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Speaker 4: That's the great Mike de Corsi from the Sporting News

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Speaker 4: bracketologists for Fox Sports, and you see him on the

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Speaker 4: Big Ten Network. We did not air the gold Horn

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Speaker 4: during the mic to Corsi interview. I don't I Mike

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Speaker 4: probably would have been okay with it, but we didn't

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Speaker 4: give him advance warning, and so we decided to suspend this.

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Speaker 4: The US is destroying in six nothing we did score

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Speaker 4: while I was talking to Mike. By the way, Paul

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Speaker 4: questions on this show are a service of United Heartland Insurance.

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Speaker 4: Nick Castianos admitted to having a beer in the dugout

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Speaker 4: last year when he was with the Phillies.

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Speaker 2: He got pulled from a game.

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Speaker 4: He was mad because they took him out for a

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Speaker 4: defensive replacement. Apparently, Nick Castianis isn't aware of how bad

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Speaker 4: of a defensive player he is, so he had a

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Speaker 4: beer in the dugout.

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Speaker 2: I believe.

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Speaker 4: I believe that an adult big league ballplayer should be

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Speaker 4: allowed to have a beer in the dugout once he's

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Speaker 4: been taken out of a game.

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Speaker 4: you go. We have a lot to get to this hour.

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Speaker 4: We'll update our pole question, which is happening right now

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Speaker 4: on Twitter at Moegar. We've we've talked a little bit

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Speaker 4: today about Phil Castellini is now the owner of the

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Speaker 4: controlling shares of the Cincinnati Reds, which you know I

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Speaker 4: talked about this at the top of the show. I

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Speaker 4: don't know that I need to spend that much more

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Speaker 4: time on it. I just I was a little surprised,

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Speaker 4: like looking last night on Twitter, Phil is not a

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Speaker 4: popular figure. I think he would be the first to

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Speaker 4: acknowledge that if he didn't know that before a few

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Speaker 4: weeks ago when he got booed at a Xavier game,

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Speaker 4: it was confirmed for him. It's kind of like booing

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Speaker 4: the high school principal at this point, but understanding that,

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Speaker 4: I was a little surprised that there were as many

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Speaker 4: folks on social media who seemed to be surprised, acting

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Speaker 4: like this is not something they saw happening. And I

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Speaker 4: don't know where that comes from. When we talk about

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Speaker 4: Phil being an unpopular figure, you know, that's largely a

1506
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 4: byproduct of Opening Day two thousand and two, where a

1507
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 4: You're gonna go, and it's a byproduct of the dismantling

1508
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 4: of that team in twenty twenty one to twenty twenty

1509
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 4: two that went over like a lead balloon, and the

1510
01:22:56,720 --> 01:23:00,679
Speaker 4: Opening Day comments took place in the in the wake

1511
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 4: of that dismantling, and they lost one hundred games that year,

1512
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 4: and so that offseason was really the first where it

1513
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 4: felt like there was legitimate fan iyre being aimed at

1514
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 4: Red's ownership, which Phil decided to be the public face

1515
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 4: and voice of That was the first time, now think

1516
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 4: about that, that was winner twenty twenty one to twenty

1517
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 4: twenty two. By then, Bob Castellini had owned the team

1518
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:40,800
Speaker 4: for over a decade and a half, and so, you know,

1519
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 4: not making the playoffs last year hasn't necessarily made people

1520
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 4: feel warm and fuzzy about Red's ownership. The failure to

1521
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 4: land Kyle Schwarber only poured gasoline on the already boiling

1522
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 4: discontent that people have with Red's ownership.

1523
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that a ing Iuhanio Souarez is going to.

1524
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 4: Make anybody feel that much better about Red's ownership. The

1525
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 4: only thing That's going to make people feel better about

1526
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:12,719
Speaker 4: Red's ownership is a championship along with a sustained stretch

1527
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 4: of legitimate on field success. There hasn't been enough winning,

1528
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 4: but I do think it's easy to forget that for

1529
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:29,759
Speaker 4: about fifteen years, Red's ownership got passing marks from many

1530
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 4: people in the public, a lot of fans for about

1531
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 4: fifteen years. During most of that time I did this show.

1532
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 4: I can't tell you if I got maybe more than

1533
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 4: five phone calls during those first fifteen years of Red

1534
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 4: ownership by the Castellinis where people blamed ownership. I think

1535
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 4: what's interesting about the relationship that fans have with the Castellinis.

1536
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:00,480
Speaker 2: In particular.

1537
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 4: Is that for the first fifteen years of Castellini ownership,

1538
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 4: if things went wrong, ownership wasn't blamed. Sometimes the manager

1539
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 4: was Dusty Baker, went to the playoffs in three or

1540
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 4: four years, and yet at times was a dramatically unpopular figure,

1541
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 4: or baseball's economics or the general manager, whoever it was.

1542
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 4: I thought, for fifteen years, in large part because of

1543
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 4: really good things done by Red's ownership, their role in

1544
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 4: the baseball part of it was either ignored or at

1545
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 4: times lauded. I think that's easy to forget now, like

1546
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 4: the last few years, ownership's approval rating hasn't been very good.

1547
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 4: But for fifteen years, man, like you know it was, hey,

1548
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:54,720
Speaker 4: they brought the All Star Game to Cincinnati, or what

1549
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 4: about the community funder Reds Fest is back, or you know,

1550
01:25:58,000 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 4: it was a big deal when they put every game

1551
01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 4: on television. I'm old enough to remember, and that was

1552
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 4: a thing this century where not every game was on television,

1553
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 4: where the ballpark is so much better, and I think

1554
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 4: to a large degree, all these things that ownership was

1555
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 4: involved in that don't have that much to do with winning.

1556
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 4: Kind of obscured the fact that they didn't win. So

1557
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 4: when the not winning got brought up, it was Joey

1558
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 4: Vado's falter, It was Dusty Baker's falter. It was Brian

1559
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 4: Price's faulter. It was Walt Jocketty's fault. It was just

1560
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 4: blind lux falter. It was baseball's economics fault. It was

1561
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 4: it was never on ownership. And so it's why it's

1562
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 4: why it's hard, I think to feel sorry for Phil

1563
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 4: or for Bob to a degree because from my perspective,

1564
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 4: for fifteen years, Red's ownership got to pass. Now again, man,

1565
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 4: maybe the relationship was thawed in twenty twenty three because

1566
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:55,719
Speaker 4: that team was so fun, and maybe it was thought

1567
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 4: a little bit more when they hired Tito Francona. Maybe

1568
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 4: it was thought a little bit more when they made

1569
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 4: the postseason last year. But the only thing that's really

1570
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 4: gonna rectify it is like a long sustained stretch of

1571
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 4: winning and a long sustained stretch of it seeming like

1572
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 4: ownership will do anything in its power to deliver a

1573
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 4: championship to Cincinnati. The perception is still that ownership won't

1574
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:19,720
Speaker 4: do everything in its power beyond belief to bring a

1575
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 4: championship to Cincinnati. But there's no unfair treatment of ownership here,

1576
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 4: because I felt like, for fifteen years it seemed like

1577
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:32,639
Speaker 4: ownership could do no wrong. They got a fifteen year pass,

1578
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 4: and we would joke about this on this show, that

1579
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 4: Mike Brown's got to be, you know, just down the

1580
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 4: river going good. Wait, can I get some of that?

1581
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:42,640
Speaker 2: Could I?

1582
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 4: Because my team wins about as often as they do,

1583
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 4: and yet i'm public enemy number one, and over there

1584
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 4: it's the exact opposite. So what's so interesting. We talked

1585
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 4: about this last month when Phil got booed at the

1586
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:59,560
Speaker 4: Xavier game. What's so interesting about this is the relationship's

1587
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 4: not good and people don't like ownership right now. For

1588
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 4: fifteen years that was not the case. We're watching the

1589
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:14,640
Speaker 4: US Olympic women's hockey team destroy Italy taren. Do we

1590
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 4: know why the United States coach and his cool looking

1591
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 4: sport coat and the Italian coach are yelling at each other?

1592
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 6: No?

1593
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 4: So, when I was talking to Mike de Courci, I

1594
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 4: looked over and there was a little frankis are we is?

1595
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 4: The Italian coach accusing us of running up the score?

1596
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 2: I hope not well?

1597
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 4: It's six nothing right, It's the Olympics, like score as

1598
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:37,640
Speaker 4: many goals as possible. But the two coaches were like

1599
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:38,559
Speaker 4: yelling at each other.

1600
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 2: I like it.

1601
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 6: I like it.

1602
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 4: I like what the Reds did do today because they

1603
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:53,720
Speaker 4: have reportedly signed a better version of insurance than Nick

1604
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 4: Castianos Nathaniel Lao has. I'm sorry, Nathaniel Lowe. There's a

1605
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 4: Brandon Lao and there's a Nathaniel Lowe, and I just

1606
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 4: screwed the two up. Nathaniel Lowe signs a non roster deal,

1607
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:05,759
Speaker 4: minor league contract.

1608
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 2: He'll be in big league camp.

1609
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 4: A guy who has spent most of his career playing

1610
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 4: first base. He's won a Silver Slugger Award, he's won

1611
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:15,919
Speaker 4: a Gold Glove Award. Last year he was with the Nationals,

1612
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:17,679
Speaker 4: it didn't go well. He was with the Red Sox

1613
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 4: went a little bit better. For the month plus that

1614
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 4: he was with them, hit eighteen home runs with an

1615
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 4: ops of six eighty nine. This is a good signing.

1616
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 4: This is a good signing because what I am looking for.

1617
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 4: I think what the Reds are looking for is they're

1618
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 4: looking for They're looking for failsafs. They're looking for Plan

1619
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:40,720
Speaker 4: B type guys. Nathaniel Lowe is a good Plan B

1620
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:44,719
Speaker 4: type guy. He hits left handed, He's got a little

1621
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 4: pop in his bat. Again, the numbers aren't going to

1622
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:50,600
Speaker 4: overwhelm you, but you got to have another option in

1623
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 4: the event that sALS Stewart at first base doesn't work

1624
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 4: out the way we hope now. Ideally sal Stewart spends

1625
01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:00,599
Speaker 4: the next five or six weeks hair and the cover

1626
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:04,599
Speaker 4: off the ball playing great in the field, primarily I'm

1627
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:07,800
Speaker 4: imagining at first base, and you're comfortable enough with him

1628
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:10,719
Speaker 4: being the guy. But there is something about depth pieces.

1629
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 4: There is something about backup plans. There is something about

1630
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:18,839
Speaker 4: having an insurance policy. Nathaniel Lowe's best season was probably

1631
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:22,160
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two with the Rangers, when he won the

1632
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 4: Silver Slugger Award, hit twenty seven home runs, had an

1633
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 4: ops of eight to fifty one. His collective ops last

1634
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 4: year was six't eighty nine with eighteen homers. I don't

1635
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 4: know if he makes the team. I don't know if

1636
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 4: he makes the team specifically what his role is going

1637
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 4: to be. But there are a lot of guys like

1638
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 4: this that are worth taking a flyer on, and it's

1639
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 4: not a big deal when they sign him. He's thirty

1640
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 4: years old. He'll turn thirty one in July, so we'll

1641
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 4: see not a bad signings. As signings like this go,

1642
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 4: you could do a hell of a lot worse. I

1643
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:57,680
Speaker 4: don't know if this decreases the likelihood they signed Nick Castiano's.

1644
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 4: Nick Krawl has kind of thrown cold water on the

1645
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:03,640
Speaker 4: idea that they're going to sign Nick Castianos, referring to

1646
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:07,720
Speaker 4: him as not being a great fit. Nick Castianis is

1647
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:10,679
Speaker 4: thirty four years old. He is coming off a very

1648
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 4: uninspiring season statistically with the Philadelphia Phillies, and the relationship

1649
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:19,720
Speaker 4: between him and the Phillies seemingly went south last year.

1650
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 4: There's been a lot written about an incident in the

1651
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:26,599
Speaker 4: dugout when the Marlins and Phillies were playing against each

1652
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 4: other last year, and apparently he got into it with

1653
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 4: his manager, Rob Thompson, and I guess a.

1654
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:34,720
Speaker 2: Beer was involved. I don't know.

1655
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:37,800
Speaker 4: Here is a Todd's a Lucky Jim Salisbury and Ruben

1656
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 4: Tomorrow Junior on the creatively titled The Philly Show talking

1657
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 4: about what went down between Nick Castianos and his manager

1658
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 4: last year.

1659
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 11: It's like Nick had these you know, remember when he signed.

1660
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 11: It was a five year, hundred million dollar contract. Of

1661
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 11: March twenty two, Nick twenty two, he gave this very

1662
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 11: interesting press conference. You know, I don't have a college degree.

1663
01:31:57,120 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 11: I hit baseballs for a living, and it was like,

1664
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 11: oh man, this guy is going to have an edge.

1665
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 11: And he had such wild ups and downs, these wild

1666
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 11: these incredible highs and these incredible lows. When he was bad,

1667
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 11: he was bad. He admitted he was bad. So there

1668
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:14,320
Speaker 11: were some frustrations there on nixt part in terms of

1669
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 11: you know, he you know, the least he was given

1670
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:19,640
Speaker 11: or whatever, right or wrong. You know, there was some

1671
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 11: frustration there and he expressed it at times. As you

1672
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:25,760
Speaker 11: guys know, as everybody knows, he was never afraid to

1673
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 11: voice his opinion. He was very blunt, very open. He

1674
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 11: could be a difficult interview at times. He could be

1675
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:34,840
Speaker 11: a fun interview at times, but he could be very

1676
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 11: very harsh in terms of his opinions. And that I

1677
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 11: think that all kind of culminated into what happened in

1678
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:42,160
Speaker 11: Miami in June.

1679
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 13: You know, it's it's it's it's okay to be blunt

1680
01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 13: and opinionated in a difficult interview. Sometimes an entertaining interview.

1681
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 13: So it's okay to be quirky. It's not okay when

1682
01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 13: your manage to makes a decision to remove you to

1683
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 13: try to help win a ballgame and replace you with

1684
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 13: a better defender. It's not okay to go off on

1685
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 13: the manager in the dugout and the coaches in the dugout.

1686
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:15,560
Speaker 13: And then you know, crack a beer that symbolically.

1687
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:18,320
Speaker 6: Was I don't know, what do you think, Reuben? He

1688
01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:19,760
Speaker 6: gave him one of these, and.

1689
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:22,640
Speaker 4: He held up the video and he held up a

1690
01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:26,599
Speaker 4: middle finger in the video. That's the Phillies show. There's

1691
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:29,519
Speaker 4: also a piece the Athletic dot com that sort of

1692
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 4: outlines why Nick Castiano's, who you heard the guys mentioned,

1693
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:37,200
Speaker 4: signed a one hundred million dollar contract with the Philadelphia Phillies,

1694
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 4: why the two sides ended up getting a divorce, and

1695
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 4: the writer of the piece in the Athletic, Matt Gilb,

1696
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:47,479
Speaker 4: writes about the instance in Miami that you just heard

1697
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 4: those three guys referring to. And he continues in his

1698
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:56,240
Speaker 4: piece that even prior to that incident, his words, many

1699
01:33:56,280 --> 01:34:01,240
Speaker 4: teammates had come to resent Castianos for his attitude. How

1700
01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:10,599
Speaker 4: about that. There's also this in the clubhouse. Prominent players

1701
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 4: distanced themselves from Castianos. Many of his teammates had a

1702
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 4: running debate they couldn't consider him necessarily a bad teammate

1703
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:22,760
Speaker 4: because there were instances of him doing thoughtful things. But

1704
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:25,799
Speaker 4: many of his teammates argued he was not a team player,

1705
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:30,720
Speaker 4: and that's an important distinction. For instance, not understanding why you,

1706
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:32,840
Speaker 4: as a bad defensive player, would be taken out for

1707
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:36,040
Speaker 4: defensive purposes in that game in Miami. Now there's a

1708
01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:38,679
Speaker 4: very good chance you don't care about the Philadelphia Phillies.

1709
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 4: I don't care about the Philadelphia Phillies. But the moment

1710
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:44,960
Speaker 4: that Nick Castianos became available, there was this like just

1711
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:47,559
Speaker 4: rush of excitement among a lot of fans. Hey, we

1712
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:52,639
Speaker 4: can get Nick Castianos. And if I'm getting the Nick

1713
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:57,719
Speaker 4: Castianos of twenty twenty one, who was twenty nine years old,

1714
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 4: and let's be honest, because he was going to opt

1715
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:04,320
Speaker 4: out of his deal if he could playing for a

1716
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 4: larger contract, sign me up. But statistically, I'm getting a

1717
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:13,840
Speaker 4: guy who's ops six ninety four. It's close to one

1718
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 4: hundred points lower than his career ops and more than

1719
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:21,360
Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty points lower than his ops of

1720
01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 4: that twenty twenty one season. Hit seventeen home runs last

1721
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:27,880
Speaker 4: year in one hundred and forty seven games. Nothing about

1722
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:32,880
Speaker 4: him statistically screams sign him. Nothing about Nick Castiano statistically

1723
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:37,840
Speaker 4: screams sign that guy. Now I understand he was a

1724
01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:41,400
Speaker 4: fan favorite. Why wouldn't he be a lot of folks

1725
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:43,879
Speaker 4: love the fact that he he yelled at Jake Woodford

1726
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:45,760
Speaker 4: of the Cardinals at home, played in like the second

1727
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:48,160
Speaker 4: or third game of that twenty twenty one season. He

1728
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 4: played with an edge, He played well. He also took

1729
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 4: some parting shots at Red's ownership right when Red's ownership

1730
01:35:56,160 --> 01:36:00,879
Speaker 4: was at its least popular. But beyond familiar and beyond

1731
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 4: him being a fan favorite, what about his recent performance

1732
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:08,160
Speaker 4: would make you want to make him a priority? Then

1733
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:11,160
Speaker 4: you add to it what I just talked about, teammates

1734
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 4: resenting him, teammates viewing him as not necessarily being a

1735
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:18,240
Speaker 4: team player. Why do I bring this up because I'll

1736
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:23,160
Speaker 4: read Charlie Goldsmith writing today about Ayuhanio Suarez where he

1737
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:28,000
Speaker 4: quotes former manager Tory Lavello with the Diamondbacks, who says

1738
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:31,200
Speaker 4: about Gino quote when he stands up in front of

1739
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 4: the room and has a conversation with the group. Nobody

1740
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:37,439
Speaker 4: responds and nobody talks but him. You know, he commands

1741
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 4: the room and he's earned their respect. He did that

1742
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 4: on a few occasions. Here's his former manager in Seattle,

1743
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:52,600
Speaker 4: former Red Dan Wilson. Gino was traded by the Diamondbacks

1744
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:56,640
Speaker 4: to the Mariners last year and he literally met his

1745
01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:59,719
Speaker 4: team on the tarmac. Charlie writes about this on his newsletter,

1746
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 4: which is awesome. You should subscribe, and he boards the

1747
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:05,360
Speaker 4: team playing. This is the first time he's getting to

1748
01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 4: know his new teammates. And Dan Wilson says, quote when

1749
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:10,240
Speaker 4: he came back to our team last year, the reception

1750
01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:12,440
Speaker 4: he got on the airplane and some of the relationships

1751
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 4: he renewed because obviously he had been a Mariner.

1752
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:16,680
Speaker 2: Before, it was super impactful.

1753
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:19,040
Speaker 4: I don't know how to describe it other than he's

1754
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:22,560
Speaker 4: an incredible human and an incredible player. Any team is

1755
01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:28,439
Speaker 4: lucky to have him. So the reason you sign a

1756
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:32,880
Speaker 4: Uhanio Suarez is he had forty nine home runs last year.

1757
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:35,960
Speaker 4: Nobody would be interested if he hit like ten home

1758
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:39,760
Speaker 4: runs last season. But he fills a need right The

1759
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:44,639
Speaker 4: Rads need home runs. Gino can still hit home runs.

1760
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:48,080
Speaker 4: But also that's the kind of guy you want on

1761
01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:51,360
Speaker 4: your team. That's the kind of guy with a team

1762
01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:56,720
Speaker 4: full of guys that are individually largely still unproven, with

1763
01:37:56,800 --> 01:38:00,200
Speaker 4: a team that hasn't really won anything substantial in four ever,

1764
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:03,960
Speaker 4: that's the kind of guy you want. Nobody would say

1765
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 4: not a team player. Nobody would wonder is he a

1766
01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:13,400
Speaker 4: good teammate. Nobody would question Gino's professionalism. So if that's

1767
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 4: what you're prioritizing. Oh and by the way, he can

1768
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:19,479
Speaker 4: hit maybe forty home runs for you, why in the

1769
01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:22,920
Speaker 4: same offseason would you want a guy is probably not

1770
01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:25,439
Speaker 4: going to hit forty home runs who hit all of

1771
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 4: seventeen last year. Defensively is an absolute zero. And you

1772
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:33,840
Speaker 4: already have a DH his name is Auhaniosuarez. And there

1773
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:36,400
Speaker 4: are questions about if he's going to be a team player,

1774
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:40,040
Speaker 4: what kind of professionalism there's going to be, whether or

1775
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 4: not he's going to be on board, whether or not

1776
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:45,840
Speaker 4: he's gonna get it if his role is lessened, Like

1777
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:49,920
Speaker 4: this is nothing against Nick Castianos personally, this is nothing

1778
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:52,040
Speaker 4: against what he was when he was here the first

1779
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:56,760
Speaker 4: go round. But understanding what the Reds seemingly are prioritizing

1780
01:38:56,800 --> 01:39:00,880
Speaker 4: this offseason. Why on earth would anybody make a big

1781
01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:02,920
Speaker 4: deal about Nick Castianos.

1782
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:03,599
Speaker 8: Oh.

1783
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 4: And by the way, they just signed a version of

1784
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 4: him today to kind of be an option at first base,

1785
01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 4: and he's younger, and I would argue, though not statistically great,

1786
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:16,720
Speaker 4: likely to be better if he makes the team, then

1787
01:39:17,240 --> 01:39:18,400
Speaker 4: Nick Castianos. Oh.

1788
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:20,920
Speaker 2: And by the way, with Nathaniel.

1789
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 4: Lowe, I read nothing about being a bad teammate, lack

1790
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:30,080
Speaker 4: of professionalism, not being a team player. So I know

1791
01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:34,320
Speaker 4: we're probably talking right now to a small, niche group

1792
01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:38,280
Speaker 4: of fans, but like, you could find no shortage of

1793
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:41,840
Speaker 4: folks who it's maybe because of nostalgia or you had

1794
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 4: a Castianos jersey that you want to pull out him

1795
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 4: off balls. But like, if the idea is to sign

1796
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:51,439
Speaker 4: Nick Castianas because you loved him five years ago, I'm

1797
01:39:51,439 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 4: not interested in five years ago. The wrench should be

1798
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:57,400
Speaker 4: interested in now. But also, if you're prioritizing a certain

1799
01:39:57,479 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 4: type of player, which they apparently were with a Haniosuarez,

1800
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:03,599
Speaker 4: willing to accept the fact that the guy strikes out

1801
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:05,800
Speaker 4: a lot, willing to accept the fact that the guy

1802
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:08,040
Speaker 4: defensively is probably not going to help all that much,

1803
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:11,880
Speaker 4: willing to accept it offensively. He's probably a one dimensional player,

1804
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:15,320
Speaker 4: but that one dimension is important. Also there are intangibles

1805
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:18,600
Speaker 4: he brings to the table. Nick castiano seems to be

1806
01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:22,960
Speaker 4: the opposite of that, even if he can still hit

1807
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 4: the ball out of the ballpark, probably not to the

1808
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 4: same degree as Euhanius Warez, and you've got people openly

1809
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:38,599
Speaker 4: questioning his professionalism and his willingness capability being a team player.

1810
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 4: Nick Castianis was a lot of fun the first go round,

1811
01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:49,320
Speaker 4: but if you view him as the difference between the

1812
01:40:49,360 --> 01:40:54,360
Speaker 4: Reds being okay and really good or bad and okay,

1813
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:59,400
Speaker 4: you're looking at him through a different lens than I am,

1814
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:02,800
Speaker 4: and apparently through a different lens than the Reds are.

1815
01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:07,160
Speaker 4: One of the things about this team last season. One

1816
01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:08,800
Speaker 4: of the things about this team over the last couple

1817
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:14,400
Speaker 4: of years, there really hasn't been a big thing, like,

1818
01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:18,040
Speaker 4: no real controversy that I can recall, no real sort

1819
01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:22,240
Speaker 4: of issue. You hired Terry Francona, and you know, it

1820
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:25,240
Speaker 4: feels like there's a level of leadership and professionalism that

1821
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:29,920
Speaker 4: you've sought to have for a while. If Nick Castianos

1822
01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:32,639
Speaker 4: was in his prime, if he was an All Star,

1823
01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:35,120
Speaker 4: if he was one of the best players in baseball.

1824
01:41:35,160 --> 01:41:38,160
Speaker 4: First of all, the Philadelphia Phillies wouldn't have let him go.

1825
01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:43,519
Speaker 4: The Philadelphia Phillies, who have bonified World Series hopes, wouldn't

1826
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 4: have let him go. Secondly, he would be worth bringing in.

1827
01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:52,000
Speaker 4: But at thirty four years old, with his production having

1828
01:41:52,080 --> 01:41:55,680
Speaker 4: dipped and there being questions about his willingness to be

1829
01:41:55,760 --> 01:42:02,400
Speaker 4: a good teammate, why would anybody want to make a

1830
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:05,599
Speaker 4: big deal about signing him. Way late twenty six, after

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01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:07,120
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Speaker 4: By the way, the hockey game is over. The US

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Speaker 4: wins six nothing over Italy. We advance to the semifinals

1876
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Speaker 4: in women's hockey. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 4: I guess they're still searching from backup quarterback.

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Speaker 2: The reason I sound.

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Speaker 4: Confused is I've got the Olympics on in studio and

1902
01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:16,400
Speaker 4: I we just got done watching the our women's hockey

1903
01:46:16,479 --> 01:46:22,400
Speaker 4: team destroy Italy's six nothing, and I don't religiously follow

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01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:27,360
Speaker 4: women's hockey. But in between periods they have and before

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01:46:27,400 --> 01:46:29,880
Speaker 4: the game they have Lindsay's Arniac as the host. Used

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01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:33,120
Speaker 4: to be on ESPN and now it works for NBC,

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01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:34,960
Speaker 4: and they have and I don't know the women's name,

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01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:37,000
Speaker 4: and I don't have audio on in here, but she's

1909
01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:39,760
Speaker 4: obviously a former women's hockey player. At one point they

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01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:43,800
Speaker 4: showed her credentials, having played on the US women's hockey

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01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:48,120
Speaker 4: team in nineteen ninety eight. And I don't know anything

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01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:51,160
Speaker 4: about her. I don't know how good or bad her

1913
01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:54,200
Speaker 4: analysis is. I'm sure it's terrific. She's working for NBC,

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01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:57,840
Speaker 4: but I don't know why I've picked up on this.

1915
01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:01,840
Speaker 4: I believe at some point because she was on before

1916
01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 4: the game, she was on between the first and second period,

1917
01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:07,760
Speaker 4: she was on between the second and third period, and

1918
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 4: now she's on after the game. At some point she

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01:47:10,320 --> 01:47:16,120
Speaker 4: changed clothes. She was what she's wearing is it's a

1920
01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:19,799
Speaker 4: nice pair of black pants and like a blue blazer.

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01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:25,160
Speaker 4: She was wearing pink earlier. She had a wardrobe change.

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01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:28,840
Speaker 4: I'm almost convinced of this. This is probably completely irrelevant

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01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 4: to anybody who was watching or certainly listening to this show.

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01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 6: But that's makes sense because yes, pink shoes on.

1925
01:47:35,640 --> 01:47:39,120
Speaker 4: Yes, yes she was wearing pink earlier. I don't know

1926
01:47:39,160 --> 01:47:41,640
Speaker 4: if she spilled something watching the game. I don't know

1927
01:47:41,680 --> 01:47:43,800
Speaker 4: if somebody said, hey, why don't we try so, I

1928
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:45,080
Speaker 4: don't know if she's like, you know what I want.

1929
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 4: I have both these outfits and I'm gonna wear them both.

1930
01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:49,719
Speaker 4: I have no idea she was wearing something else earlier.

1931
01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:54,800
Speaker 4: Sports headlines are a service to Kelsey Chevrolet Palm of

1932
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:58,639
Speaker 4: lifetime power train protection and guaranteed credit approval from their

1933
01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:02,520
Speaker 4: family to yours for life, Kelsey chev dot com. Nathaniel

1934
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:05,480
Speaker 4: Lowe is signing with the Reds, a non roster invitee

1935
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:06,639
Speaker 4: to a big league camp.

1936
01:48:07,120 --> 01:48:08,240
Speaker 2: He is thirty years old.

1937
01:48:08,280 --> 01:48:10,519
Speaker 4: Played last year with the Nationals then the Red Sox,

1938
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:13,920
Speaker 4: at eighteen home runs, had an ops of six eighty nine.

1939
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:14,920
Speaker 6: He was with the.

1940
01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:17,639
Speaker 4: Rangers for years, won a Gold Glove, won a Silver

1941
01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:20,839
Speaker 4: Slugger Award. He is mainly a first baseman. That signing

1942
01:48:20,920 --> 01:48:23,519
Speaker 4: is okay and there are no reports of him not

1943
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:27,800
Speaker 4: being a team player. Meanwhile, the Bengals have rounded out

1944
01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:31,200
Speaker 4: their coaching staff finalized their coaching staff, hiring of a

1945
01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:34,880
Speaker 4: Davis Cutter as assistant wide receivers coach. He's been last

1946
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:37,960
Speaker 4: year as the assistant quarterbacks coach at the University of

1947
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:38,840
Speaker 4: South Carolina.

1948
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:40,000
Speaker 2: Congratulations to him.

1949
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:46,160
Speaker 4: College basketball tonight, it's Miami hosting Ohio University. This game

1950
01:48:46,240 --> 01:48:49,559
Speaker 4: is going to tip off at nine pm. Malette Hall,

1951
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:54,360
Speaker 4: or as it's sometimes called, Millet Hall, should be rocking

1952
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:59,720
Speaker 4: tonight as the RedHawks look for a twenty fifth consecutive

1953
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:04,120
Speaker 4: win to start this season. On national TV tonight. For

1954
01:49:04,160 --> 01:49:08,280
Speaker 4: what it's worth, and good luck to the RedHawks. Go

1955
01:49:08,439 --> 01:49:12,160
Speaker 4: back to Steel last unbeaten team. Tip Off is at

1956
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:16,720
Speaker 4: nine o'clock. It's on regular ESPN. RedHawks are eight and

1957
01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:20,360
Speaker 4: a half point favorites. Miami this year is fifteen and

1958
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:23,960
Speaker 4: six against the spread. The three games they played against

1959
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:27,000
Speaker 4: non Division one teams, there was no point spread, so

1960
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:28,720
Speaker 4: you might be going, wait a minute. They've played twenty

1961
01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:31,559
Speaker 4: four games, but only twenty one against the number. Vegas

1962
01:49:31,640 --> 01:49:34,000
Speaker 4: doesn't give lines for the most part against non Division

1963
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:38,840
Speaker 4: one teams. By the way, I don't know who's calling

1964
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:41,919
Speaker 4: the game for ESPN. Last night was like a Horizon

1965
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:46,000
Speaker 4: League Night on ESPN NKU won won by three over

1966
01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:49,519
Speaker 4: IU Indianapolis. Did you know that a Mecca Oka four

1967
01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:51,559
Speaker 4: is a color analyst on ESPN?

1968
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:52,240
Speaker 2: Really?

1969
01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:58,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying to I'm gonna look it up because

1970
01:49:58,600 --> 01:50:00,840
Speaker 4: I'm kind of zipping a around trying to find the

1971
01:50:00,920 --> 01:50:04,320
Speaker 4: NKU game. And okay, I watched because it was Green

1972
01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:07,559
Speaker 4: Bay and Perdue for Wayne Doug Gottlieb's team, and I

1973
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:10,680
Speaker 4: don't recall who the play by play guy was, and

1974
01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:15,040
Speaker 4: they didn't show the broadcasters, and then at the end,

1975
01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:18,200
Speaker 4: the play by play guy was like, you know, hey

1976
01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:19,400
Speaker 4: for a Mecca Oka four.

1977
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:20,920
Speaker 2: I'm so, I'm like a Mecca.

1978
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:23,719
Speaker 4: A Mecca Oka four the two thousand and five NBA

1979
01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:28,120
Speaker 4: Rookie of the Year doing Horizon League games on.

1980
01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:32,639
Speaker 6: Espno, good for him? Yes, absolutely. Miami, Ohio is following

1981
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:35,400
Speaker 6: one of my favorite events, the NBA All Star Celebrity Game.

1982
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:38,720
Speaker 4: All right, so I was going to ask you about this.

1983
01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:42,640
Speaker 4: I was gonna do this earlier, seg. I'm doing this

1984
01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:44,840
Speaker 4: here on the fly while I while I while I

1985
01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:48,000
Speaker 4: look this up on the fly, I'll tell you tomorrow

1986
01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:51,879
Speaker 4: Xavier takes on Marquette. Marquette beat the Musketeers in Milwaukee

1987
01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:54,360
Speaker 4: earlier this season by one. Tomorrow's tip off is at

1988
01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:58,479
Speaker 4: three pm. Ohio State is taking on Virginia in a

1989
01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:02,760
Speaker 4: non conference tilt. That game is being played in Nashville

1990
01:51:03,160 --> 01:51:04,760
Speaker 4: at an arena that I was in to watch.

1991
01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:07,519
Speaker 6: You see lose to Nevada.

1992
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:13,479
Speaker 4: Also this weekend, you see hosts Utah Sunday at noon,

1993
01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:17,599
Speaker 4: and Indiana's at Illinois Dayton takes on Davidson Sunday at

1994
01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:21,679
Speaker 4: four hockey tonight. The Cyclones are gonna be busy this weekend.

1995
01:51:21,720 --> 01:51:23,800
Speaker 4: They've got a home game tonight against Toledo. I believe

1996
01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:26,679
Speaker 4: it's a miracle on ice Jersey night tonight. Those look

1997
01:51:26,720 --> 01:51:31,000
Speaker 4: cool puck drops at seven thirty. Then tomorrow they're in

1998
01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:34,439
Speaker 4: Toledo to play the Walleye and then come right back

1999
01:51:34,479 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 4: home and play the Indianapolis Fuel on Sunday at three o'clock.

2000
01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:42,400
Speaker 2: I'm trying to.

2001
01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:45,720
Speaker 4: Pull up the celebrity game rosters.

2002
01:51:48,760 --> 01:51:50,599
Speaker 2: My computer is moving very very slowly.

2003
01:51:50,640 --> 01:51:51,880
Speaker 6: Here, I have it all right.

2004
01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:55,360
Speaker 2: Read the names of the celebrities to me.

2005
01:51:56,960 --> 01:52:01,000
Speaker 6: So for Team Yannis, seem me honest. We have Michael Key, okay,

2006
01:52:01,040 --> 01:52:05,160
Speaker 6: I know who that is, Rome Flynn, no idea, Dylan Wange,

2007
01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:10,439
Speaker 6: no idea, Sean Sharanya okay, I know who that is? Obviously, yes,

2008
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:16,200
Speaker 6: Jenna Brandy, no idea. Rick Schnall, don't know who that is?

2009
01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:20,759
Speaker 6: Tackle Fall, I know who that is. Jeremy lymb obviously

2010
01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:24,280
Speaker 6: I know who that is. I don't know if I

2011
01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:30,120
Speaker 6: know who or what Gloriala is? Uh Ka what bless you?

2012
01:52:31,120 --> 01:52:32,840
Speaker 6: C A f U?

2013
01:52:33,080 --> 01:52:34,000
Speaker 7: C A f U?

2014
01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:34,519
Speaker 6: What is?

2015
01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:36,320
Speaker 2: Do you know who that is? How many of these

2016
01:52:36,320 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 2: people so far? Do you know who they are?

2017
01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 6: I know about five of them?

2018
01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:40,479
Speaker 2: Five of them?

2019
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:42,680
Speaker 6: Okay? Aman Ron S.

2020
01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:45,400
Speaker 2: Brown the Lions, Okay, aren't good player?

2021
01:52:45,400 --> 01:52:46,080
Speaker 6: Okay, all right?

2022
01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:47,000
Speaker 2: Who else?

2023
01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:53,080
Speaker 6: And then for team Anthony Anderson? Okay, Simu leu, no idea?

2024
01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:55,599
Speaker 6: What that is? Cody Jones?

2025
01:52:56,760 --> 01:53:02,400
Speaker 2: Who's Cody Jones wrestler? No, it's Cody Road, gotcha?

2026
01:53:03,600 --> 01:53:04,160
Speaker 6: Bod Shah?

2027
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 2: Who you're just making noises? Now?

2028
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:12,439
Speaker 6: B A D s h A H?

2029
01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:13,080
Speaker 2: Is that bad?

2030
01:53:13,520 --> 01:53:15,760
Speaker 4: I don't know who that is, regardless however you say it.

2031
01:53:15,760 --> 01:53:16,360
Speaker 2: I have no idea.

2032
01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:17,280
Speaker 6: Andre Degrassi.

2033
01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:19,360
Speaker 2: Should I know who that is?

2034
01:53:19,800 --> 01:53:23,479
Speaker 6: I know he's the Canadian track sprinter, okay, gotcha? Okay,

2035
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:27,960
Speaker 6: very good? Matt Isa, I know who that is. Taylor

2036
01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:32,760
Speaker 6: Frankie Paul, No idea. Jason White chocolate Williams.

2037
01:53:33,080 --> 01:53:36,559
Speaker 4: Okay, I know who that is. Matt ishbia Is he's

2038
01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:37,519
Speaker 4: like a really rich guy.

2039
01:53:38,600 --> 01:53:39,839
Speaker 2: He owns the Sons.

2040
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:41,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the owner of the Sons is going to

2041
01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:44,400
Speaker 4: be in the celebrity game. Yep, Okay, I knew, I

2042
01:53:44,439 --> 01:53:45,639
Speaker 4: knew the name. Yeah, he owns the.

2043
01:53:45,600 --> 01:53:49,639
Speaker 6: Sons, all right. Continue and then last four Mustard, which

2044
01:53:49,640 --> 01:53:52,800
Speaker 6: he's a DJ. They just have mustard though not DJ.

2045
01:53:53,160 --> 01:53:56,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he did a commercial wardout Mustard okay.

2046
01:53:58,200 --> 01:54:03,400
Speaker 6: Adrian Nunez, uh should I know who that is? I

2047
01:54:03,479 --> 01:54:06,920
Speaker 6: don't know that is okay. Then Keenan Allen, Oh, the

2048
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:09,840
Speaker 6: Chargers okay? And this last name I'm not even met

2049
01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:10,880
Speaker 6: to try to pronounce. I can't.

2050
01:54:13,320 --> 01:54:16,120
Speaker 2: So I knew who? Like five of them were six?

2051
01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:19,439
Speaker 4: Yes, I feel like that number gets uh less and

2052
01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:20,240
Speaker 4: less every year.

2053
01:54:20,479 --> 01:54:22,719
Speaker 6: So we have a country singer that's Dylan Waang okay,

2054
01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:29,799
Speaker 6: Jenna Brandy hit a sing singer, songwriter okay, Cody Rose,

2055
01:54:30,040 --> 01:54:33,720
Speaker 6: he's the creator and co founder of Dude Perfect. Okay,

2056
01:54:34,040 --> 01:54:37,000
Speaker 6: I know who those guys are. Brazilian soccer legend is

2057
01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:43,160
Speaker 6: the kut Kufu okay, yeah, and uh, Gloriala, she's a rapper.

2058
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:48,760
Speaker 6: I know her, and yeah.

2059
01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:50,680
Speaker 4: Are there more celebrities in the celebrity NBA All Star Game?

2060
01:54:50,680 --> 01:54:54,480
Speaker 4: Where the celebrity Softball game they have around the Baseball All.

2061
01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 6: Star Game, probably the celebrity uh softball game. You know.

2062
01:54:58,160 --> 01:55:01,360
Speaker 4: I was thinking about this. I don't know why. Somebody

2063
01:55:01,400 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 4: the other night tweeted out that I believe Wednesday was

2064
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:10,960
Speaker 4: the anniversary of Buster Douglas beating Mike Tyson, and whenever

2065
01:55:11,200 --> 01:55:15,040
Speaker 4: like greatest upset in sports history is brought up, that's

2066
01:55:15,240 --> 01:55:18,680
Speaker 4: the event that I recall. Now, I was two years

2067
01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:21,200
Speaker 4: old for the miracle on ice, so maybe not like

2068
01:55:21,280 --> 01:55:24,760
Speaker 4: greatest in sports history, but like the one of my youth,

2069
01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:29,240
Speaker 4: Like I don't know that I could do justice, how jarring.

2070
01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:32,280
Speaker 4: That was what I remember about that fight was it

2071
01:55:32,360 --> 01:55:35,640
Speaker 4: was not on pay per view, regular HBO aired it.

2072
01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:37,640
Speaker 4: It was a Saturday night. The fight was in Tokyo,

2073
01:55:38,080 --> 01:55:42,240
Speaker 4: and this dude from Columbus beat Mike Tyson, who seemed invincible.

2074
01:55:43,240 --> 01:55:45,840
Speaker 4: On the list of things I wish Twitter was around for,

2075
01:55:46,280 --> 01:55:49,600
Speaker 4: that's very close to the top of the list. And

2076
01:55:49,160 --> 01:55:52,680
Speaker 4: I was talking with somebody about, like, you know, if

2077
01:55:52,720 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 4: you weren't around back then, I'm not sure you could

2078
01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:59,840
Speaker 4: really encapsulate how massive of an upset that was, and

2079
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:03,160
Speaker 4: then we started to talk about the dunk contest and

2080
01:56:03,240 --> 01:56:07,080
Speaker 4: how when I was a kid NBA All Stars Saturday Night,

2081
01:56:07,840 --> 01:56:09,440
Speaker 4: I was one of the first kids that I knew

2082
01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:10,280
Speaker 4: that had cable.

2083
01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:12,320
Speaker 2: So the Jordan.

2084
01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:15,720
Speaker 4: Dominique Wilkins Dunk contest at Chicago Stadium.

2085
01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:16,600
Speaker 6: We got Dominique got robbed.

2086
01:56:16,600 --> 01:56:17,600
Speaker 2: Dominique got robbed.

2087
01:56:17,640 --> 01:56:19,560
Speaker 4: I believe that to this day, Dominique Wilkins is one

2088
01:56:19,600 --> 01:56:22,440
Speaker 4: of my all time favorite athletes. Dominique Wilkins the dunk content.

2089
01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:24,880
Speaker 4: You go watch it on YouTube. Dominique Wilkins. If that

2090
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:28,360
Speaker 4: event had been in any other venue by Chicago, Nick Wins,

2091
01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:31,800
Speaker 4: I'm comfortable saying that, like as one of my all

2092
01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:36,000
Speaker 4: time favorite players, So maybe I'm biased, but I remember

2093
01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:40,280
Speaker 4: that night. I remember Josh Lofton and his brother coming

2094
01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:42,920
Speaker 4: over to my house, and a guy named Dan Freeman,

2095
01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:45,680
Speaker 4: who I only liked because his sister was cute, like,

2096
01:56:46,120 --> 01:56:48,240
Speaker 4: came over to my house to watch the dunk contest.

2097
01:56:48,440 --> 01:56:51,680
Speaker 4: It was a huge deal and for years, for a

2098
01:56:51,720 --> 01:56:54,280
Speaker 4: few not for many years, but for a few years after,

2099
01:56:54,440 --> 01:56:59,720
Speaker 4: like NBA All Stars Saturday Night was was just the best.

2100
01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:06,800
Speaker 4: It was must watch and like that night, like that

2101
01:57:07,040 --> 01:57:09,400
Speaker 4: just general night, but that night in nineteen eighty eight

2102
01:57:10,280 --> 01:57:12,960
Speaker 4: for people my age, I can't imagine how many how

2103
01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:17,360
Speaker 4: many kids became basketball fans for life because of that,

2104
01:57:17,480 --> 01:57:22,200
Speaker 4: because of that event. And now I don't want to

2105
01:57:22,240 --> 01:57:26,360
Speaker 4: watch tall players dunk. Why do we have like seven

2106
01:57:26,360 --> 01:57:29,480
Speaker 4: foot guys in the dunk context? And then we add

2107
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:33,160
Speaker 4: dudes who aren't even really in the NBA Mac McClung, like,

2108
01:57:33,240 --> 01:57:35,680
Speaker 4: what was cool about Jordan versus Wilkins. There were two

2109
01:57:35,720 --> 01:57:39,160
Speaker 4: like legitimate stars, like in nineteen eighty eight, Jordan might

2110
01:57:39,160 --> 01:57:40,839
Speaker 4: not have been at the Apex, but he was a

2111
01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:44,400
Speaker 4: certifiable star, and Dominique Wilkins that year had an epic

2112
01:57:44,440 --> 01:57:50,080
Speaker 4: playoff duel with Larry Bird, also bodified, certifiable star, and

2113
01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:54,040
Speaker 4: that event. Now it just you talk about something that

2114
01:57:54,160 --> 01:57:57,280
Speaker 4: just doesn't have anywhere close to the cachet. It is

2115
01:57:57,320 --> 01:58:03,400
Speaker 4: impossible for me to successfully articulate pretty much anything but

2116
01:58:04,200 --> 01:58:08,120
Speaker 4: the significance of NBA All Stars Saturday Night to like

2117
01:58:08,320 --> 01:58:13,040
Speaker 4: a eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen year old boy in the

2118
01:58:13,120 --> 01:58:16,640
Speaker 4: late eighties and early nineties, and especially in the late eighties,

2119
01:58:17,120 --> 01:58:20,200
Speaker 4: if you didn't have cable, like you had to find

2120
01:58:20,240 --> 01:58:23,320
Speaker 4: a friend who did and invite yourself over on Saturday

2121
01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:27,320
Speaker 4: because the dunk contest was I remember when Kenny Walker

2122
01:58:27,360 --> 01:58:30,240
Speaker 4: Want It from Kentucky, New York Knicks. I remember when

2123
01:58:30,280 --> 01:58:33,160
Speaker 4: he won it at my dad's house watching that and

2124
01:58:33,200 --> 01:58:35,800
Speaker 4: we had people over, kids over, my friends who like

2125
01:58:36,320 --> 01:58:38,040
Speaker 4: Cable hadn't hit their neighborhood yet.

2126
01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:42,879
Speaker 6: And the last good one for me was twenty sixteen,

2127
01:58:43,080 --> 01:58:44,520
Speaker 6: which was Vin Gordon.

2128
01:58:44,600 --> 01:58:45,680
Speaker 2: Lavine Gordon was awesome.

2129
01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:48,320
Speaker 4: That's probably the last one that I like, thought this

2130
01:58:48,400 --> 01:58:50,960
Speaker 4: is this replicates what it was when I was a kid.

2131
01:58:51,160 --> 01:58:53,280
Speaker 6: Now this weekend we do have a local tie Jackson Hayes.

2132
01:58:53,600 --> 01:58:56,080
Speaker 4: Jackson Hayes. But like Jackson Hayes is a big do

2133
01:58:56,080 --> 01:58:57,200
Speaker 4: you want to watch Bigs dunk?

2134
01:58:58,480 --> 01:58:59,840
Speaker 6: Let's see how creative he can be. I don't think

2135
01:58:59,840 --> 01:59:01,640
Speaker 6: he's like I don't think he's very creative, but we'll see.

2136
01:59:01,680 --> 01:59:02,120
Speaker 4: That's the thing.

2137
01:59:02,200 --> 01:59:02,680
Speaker 6: Like he's good.

2138
01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:07,320
Speaker 4: There's powerful dunkers, good dunkers in traffic. But the dunk

2139
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Speaker 4: contest is about creativity, athleticism aerobatics, which is acrobatics in the.

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Speaker 6: Air, which is neither one of us correct.

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Speaker 4: Working Monday.

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Speaker 4: We're honoring our dead presidents by working, unlike Tony and Austin.

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