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Speaker 1: Bratchaw On Brian Kfan text line is open at six

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Speaker 1: four six eight six. I will say that the you

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Speaker 1: great respect for what's come before. Respect's probably the wrong term,

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Speaker 1: it's all part of what do we say the other day,

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Speaker 1: past his prologue. It all fits together in this cosmic wheel,

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Speaker 1: and to that extent, we love studying real like you know,

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Speaker 1: the sports department, the toy department, as the late great

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Speaker 1: Bob Knight used to call it as well, And in

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Speaker 1: this case I'm referring specifically to the long standing rivalry

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Speaker 1: should say in the Minnesota Vikings. Now I should say,

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Speaker 1: maybe that's a Freudian slip, because our three p thirty

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Speaker 1: more I mean, in all in all honesty, they're both rivals.

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Speaker 1: But in your pecking order, do you put Bears Packers

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Speaker 3: Well, the right answers they're both rivals. Yes, if you

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Speaker 3: Who would I be more mad to lose to? Okay,

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Speaker 3: that's a good way, but I think I'd be more

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Speaker 3: the Vikings organizations, fine, but the Bears.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want to lose the Bears. Have you

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Speaker 1: We have not? So, yeah, this is a lot of

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Speaker 2: I think in this division.

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Speaker 1: The when I say the football gods never cheated or

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Speaker 2: By that, I mean it's a rich history. It is.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't like he was the only guy who played

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Speaker 2: First thousand and forty eight yard line, Randol run deep.

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Speaker 1: Randy Moss is the best young receiver that I have

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Speaker 4: You can start looking for the football a little bit.

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Speaker 3: And Randall's swing it down for Randy Moss, who makes

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Speaker 1: That's the other part of the story that should not

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Speaker 1: Another big one from a Viking standpoint is when Farv

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Speaker 2: The far return? I mean, I was how old kid?

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Speaker 2: Let's break.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you a chance for your sweetest Vikings Packers

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Speaker 1: memory from lambeau Field games. I'd like to limit it

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Speaker 2: If you have your own suggestions, because we've.

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Speaker 1: Talked about many of these highs and lows over the

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Speaker 2: To you by Continental Diamond. Now break down this week's games.

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Speaker 1: Here's your favorite NFL rock, Dan Barrero. I wonder how

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Speaker 2: Ninety eight.

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Speaker 1: Monday Night Football, October five, twenty five straight home victories

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Speaker 2: What do you remember about that game? Gerby?

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Speaker 4: Not much really. I remember the twenty five games before that.

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Speaker 4: if that would be it's not It's not like you

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Speaker 1: If we win, if you win Sunday, that's three in

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Speaker 4: Well, that's you know, And if the sun comes up

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Speaker 2: Time, been a lot since it's done that. You're right

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Speaker 1: Because I was there and a bunch of you, bunch

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Speaker 1: That building was fifty empty by the end of the

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it's not right. You don't go around putting

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Speaker 4: You don't do that. That's not that's not considered good form. No,

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Speaker 4: I mean you I can understand why that's what you

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Speaker 1: That's how traumatizing the Randy Moss experience had been for you.

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Speaker 4: Dan. You have in this life, Dan, if something's not

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Speaker 4: Then you think we're stupid that we just let it go.

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Speaker 4: We're not. Oh, I know, Let's just let Randy Moss

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Speaker 4: We have an obligation to our fans to win, and

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Speaker 2: Dan, Yeah, that's what I've I've gleaned that.

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00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 4: And we're taking them very seriously, very seriously.

438
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: Have you considered can I ask you this, have you

439
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: considered rewiring your neurological pathways?

440
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 2: My?

441
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: What your neurological pathways? That's what our quarterback is being

442
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: asked to do, and he's saying, you got to give

443
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: me a minute.

444
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 4: Fay night. Neurological pathways. That's honey. I'm at home right

445
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 4: now because on the half day, I'm let's start today.

446
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 4: And what do we do why neurological.

447
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: Path Well, A texture thinks you've already maybe had old shelled.

448
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: Are you on your way already?

449
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 4: She does when I tell her I'm on the radio, I'm.

450
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: I've been rolling my eyes a lot of what's been

451
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 1: coming out of the mouths of J. J. McCarthy and

452
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: the head coach involving JJ McCarthy's struggle.

453
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 4: Well, it didn't sound like you feel like you kind

454
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 4: of screwed up again?

455
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 2: Too early to tell.

456
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 4: Damn you it is number one. I do occasually listen

457
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 4: to your show. Now I'm a signed to this.

458
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

459
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 4: Don't lie to me, Dan. You think he's a bozo.

460
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: No, I don't think he's a boso. I think he's playing.

461
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 4: I think he's bad. Dan. You sit down him over

462
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 4: and over. Well, it's not you.

463
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 2: I don't dislike.

464
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,239
Speaker 4: Emotions come to on the radio. That's why you've been

465
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 4: around for so long.

466
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 2: I could explain it.

467
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 4: I because you can't hide you.

468
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 2: Honest with you. I don't think your quarterback.

469
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: I don't think you're in a position of really fundamental

470
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: strength right now either.

471
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 4: Talk about Dan. He was brilliant last week. It was

472
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 4: the people receivers the one dropping the ball. Dan. It's like,

473
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 4: well John Love was he was? He was damn near

474
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 4: perfect last he was a receiver had some serious.

475
00:28:58,760 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: Was he was? He brilliant.

476
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 4: Bother the receivers aren't catching the ball before. Very very good.

477
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 4: I don't know why you don't think he's any good.

478
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 4: He's one of the best crowdbacks in the league.

479
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: Do you were you? Well, let me ask you this.

480
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: Can I get you to own up.

481
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: Finally after all these years that you indeed d you

482
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,719
Speaker 1: did indeed once say Randy Moss is a great player.

483
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 4: I don't maybe one of us in New England I

484
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 4: might have said that, but I know that you piece

485
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,479
Speaker 4: something together to make it sound like, now what all

486
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 4: the kids are doing with artificial intelligence. Yeah, well, that's

487
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 4: what you guys were doing a long time ago.

488
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: We would never do that.

489
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 4: Of course you would. Dan, Let's be honest, you guys scruples.

490
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 4: I'm not high.

491
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of scruples, let me get your reaction to this.

492
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: Zach just texted, can we bring bar back for one

493
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: game and knock out Jordan Love?

494
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 4: Does that sound being like a sportsman like thing to do?

495
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 4: Does that sound like that's a good good sport?

496
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: Is that cheap?

497
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 4: Do you think that? I mean, you don't share other

498
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 4: teams in this injury. You just don't. It's not, it's not.

499
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 4: It's very very low class. Are we super Are we

500
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 4: super happy that Laporter is hurt in Detroit?

501
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: No?

502
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 4: Of course not.

503
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 2: I don't think people get hurt.

504
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 4: Tucker Kraft, who's better than the Porter? He's hurt?

505
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: He is good. I do like him. I'm not going

506
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: to I wouldn't go that far.

507
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 4: I would I go further?

508
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: You would?

509
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tucker, Craft maybe the best tight ended in football.

510
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: And I know it was your pick, wasn't he did

511
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: you say? Didn't you tell people he's your power?

512
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 4: I was high on him, you know, because we drafted

513
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 4: musk Grave and I when I turned my list, I said,

514
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 4: Craft is better than musk Grave. I was, it's pretty good.

515
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: Oh, here's here's what I will grant. I'm looking at

516
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: the ESPN quarterback ratings. That's the total QBR.

517
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 4: What does that mean.

518
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: Well, there's an old fashioned quarterback formula.

519
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: I don't even understand it. I do think it takes

520
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: well here. Well you might.

521
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 4: Because I don't understand it, but I believe.

522
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: Let me give you my top well a little bit.

523
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: Let me give you the top five QBR quarterbacks statistic

524
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: analytically speaking right now.

525
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 2: One Dak Prescott.

526
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: Done, two Drake May three, Patrick Mahomes four, Sam Darnold five,

527
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: Jordan Love.

528
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: That's pretty good company.

529
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: Matthew stafford is six, Lamar Jackson seven, Daniel Jones eight.

530
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: So that does bode well for your guy. Top five

531
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: that's not bad.

532
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: You take that.

533
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 4: We should be he should be number one. Go to

534
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 4: tell you it's because the receivers have been dropping the

535
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 4: book asked producer Bread. Well, the.

536
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: Vikings had eight drops last week from with McCarthy too.

537
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 4: You don't it's not a drop when it's.

538
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: Ten yards head ten yards, that's not a drop. No,

539
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: that's probably.

540
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 4: Jordan is putting that ball right on the money, right

541
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 4: on the money, and and people have been dropping it.

542
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 4: I've already sent him my recommendation.

543
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: Can I give you another Jordan Love stat that's a

544
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: little more sobering that you might not like quite as much.

545
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 4: You can make up instead.

546
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: This is you know who wrote this, Ben Gooseling. Start

547
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: to be on goose He's a.

548
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 4: Fourth almost homing.

549
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 2: Is.

550
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 4: He is not as much a home as Kevin Siphon is.

551
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 4: He's just he's.

552
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: Bet Jordan Love with a clean pocket one seven point

553
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: five passer rating, one of the best, eighty two percent

554
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: of his passes, fifteen touchdowns, one pick. However, when pressured

555
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: quarterback rating of a passer rating of forty five point

556
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: five and he's completed only thirty eight point two percent

557
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: of his passes, that doesn't sound like the case.

558
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds. It stands to reason Dan that if

559
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 4: you're on the pecially, going to have to be a

560
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 4: little tougher.

561
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: Well, that's I mean, one extreme day.

562
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 4: McCarthy is probably the first quarterback to ever have a negative.

563
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 2: Yes, that's quarterback ring. That's actually true. He is.

564
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: I like to debate you, but you're not wrong on

565
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: that he has a.

566
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: Negative because I know football, you do. Here's no question from.

567
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 4: Green Bay and from people whom Wisconsin know football. Now,

568
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 4: I understand you have to talk down to your eye

569
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 4: because they're a lot stupid and they don't really how

570
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 4: football works and they never really have, which is one

571
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 4: of the reasons they have won Super Bowl. So I understand,

572
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 4: But don't you don't have to explain crap to me, Dan,

573
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 4: because I know football? Can you produce a breplay more?

574
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 4: He knows football and Wisconsin.

575
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know that I would agree with you,

576
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 1: but that's I think you may both be a little

577
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: biased there because you you would define knowing football as

578
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 1: being a Packers homer.

579
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: That's what that's how you define it.

580
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 4: Are objective?

581
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 2: Are are you objective to?

582
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: You're more objective than the ball, You're more You're more

583
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: objective than Gerby.

584
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: But that's not saying much.

585
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I see a tweet from yesterday from Pro

586
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 3: Football Focus that Jordan Love is the NFL's highest graded

587
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 3: passer against the Blitz.

588
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

589
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 4: Why you just blitz? Why don't you try to see

590
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 4: what happens? Do you think they'll be you guys might

591
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 4: drop the ball, but good try.

592
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: Is there a Gerby lock of the week?

593
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: Are you willing to give up your own tickets at

594
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:51,959
Speaker 1: Lambeau or not so much?

595
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 4: Oh? No, Dan, I'm going, I'm there. No, my whole

596
00:34:55,680 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 4: family's gone this week. What's this? Isn't a rivalry game,

597
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 4: but it's something important game. We need to win this.

598
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 2: Game, or you do need to win this game. Vikings

599
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: need it more than you do.

600
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: Bike Viking season, if it's not already over, will be

601
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: over if they lose that.

602
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: What's so funny?

603
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 4: That's so funny?

604
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 2: We mean that?

605
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 4: So you need it more than we do. What's the point?

606
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: It might not be Jesus over.

607
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 4: And it's not like you're ever gonna win a Super Bowl?

608
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 4: We need it more. You don't even know what you need.

609
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: What if we beat you and go to Seattle and

610
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: win that game too, we're back at five hundred.

611
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: It's not like your what's your record?

612
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: It's not like you're eight games ahead of anybody, What's

613
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: where's all this haughty?

614
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 4: No, because we've had some injuries.

615
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: You're not the only team that's had injuries or bad

616
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: luck or gotten screwed by the Zebras.

617
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's not that many teams that have bad

618
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 4: records either. It's not like they're walking away. It's not

619
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 4: like stupid lucky Chicagos like Rocket.

620
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: If the playoffs end it today with the Packers being it,

621
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: I believe they would okay, barely, wouldn't.

622
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 4: You just got to make a dance. Well, I I

623
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 4: heard somebody make my chance against anybody in the.

624
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: I heard somebody on ESPN I think it was ESPN

625
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: today or yesterday they said that if the if the

626
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: Packers do not make the playoffs this year, your head

627
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: coach is in trouble. Your thoughts, No, maybe it was

628
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: they probably won't commit to Jordan Love any longer, that

629
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: the experiment would be over and they would be looking

630
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: to grab somebody else. Maybe JJ McCarthy on the rebound.

631
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 4: We have already committed to I have, Yeah, we give

632
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 4: him a very sizable time.

633
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: Well that you could, Yeah, but doesn't mean you have

634
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: to keep.

635
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 4: Him if you're going.

636
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you've handled the cap. Well, all right, let's

637
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: get to some games, shall we.

638
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 4: You're a study of the top nive quarterback, and now

639
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 4: you're trying.

640
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: To you know what you do.

641
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 4: I just want to everybody in your eye that what

642
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 4: you do is that you try to find some argument

643
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 4: that you know it's gonna piss people off. In this

644
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 4: case me and see producer, and then you just you

645
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 4: don't even believe it that JJ McCarthy is the greatest

646
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 4: quarterback in the well that tomorrow you're gonna go he stucks.

647
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 4: I mean, that's just that's it's just this is a

648
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 4: it's like a weird reality, is what it is.

649
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 3: Dan.

650
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 4: You should listen to what you had to say. Really,

651
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 4: you kind of all can I ask yourself, basis.

652
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: If McCarthy just plays crappy, am I supposed to say

653
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: he isn't? And then even if I believe he's playing badly, well,

654
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: if he plays well, then you also have to acknowledge it.

655
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: You can't because you've taken a stance. That doesn't mean

656
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: that you can't.

657
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 4: How many games as he played, well, Dan.

658
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: Not very many, but he's still he's a baby, he's

659
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: a he's a quarterback.

660
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 2: Baby. He's played the position for about two weeks.

661
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 4: So I'm supposed to So we're supposed to feel bad

662
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 4: about this. So like, oh well, okay, well I'm sure

663
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 4: that he'll be much better this week, because everybody knows,

664
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, during one week, you just turn

665
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 4: it on. That's how it works. One week you're bad,

666
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 4: next week you're good. That's not damn. You have to

667
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 4: develop a quarterback. How long are you take us to

668
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 4: develop Aaron Rodgers behind Bret five? Like three years? How

669
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 4: long did it take us to develop Jordan Love behind

670
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers?

671
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: Like?

672
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 4: Do I have years? Damn? This it's not you guys.

673
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 4: He's out all last season. They didn't even play. I mean,

674
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 4: it's so fragile. Are you so fragile that he gets

675
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 4: hurt and you haven't played for like.

676
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: Five Are you trying to do?

677
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: Are you trying to do Ko's bidding? That sounds like

678
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: you're apologizing for that.

679
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: You're excusing his perform.

680
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 4: No, I don't really care. That's the fight part. I

681
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 4: don't care. If your quarterbacks aren't bad, doesn't matter me

682
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 4: because you're not as good as us.

683
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 2: Well, are you? Okay?

684
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 4: You got a little dry We have had like peanuts

685
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 4: like the salted peanuts, and there's too much salt. If

686
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 4: I had too much salt.

687
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 2: In one of my peanuts, I'll take your word for it.

688
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 2: Can we get to the games?

689
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 4: Okay? I don't decide when you can do this thing.

690
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: Let's start with Bucks at Rams that's in Los Angeles?

691
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 2: Is this right?

692
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: Do we have these correct? Rams are favored by six

693
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: and a half Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay's coming back to

694
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 1: the pack. Rams have become the Rams are good man,

695
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 1: six and a half, six and a half. Last week

696
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: I went with the heads or tails, so to speak.

697
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: It did me no better. I was one, we were

698
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: all three of us were one and two last week.

699
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick the Rams uh to cover even though

700
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: it's too many points. All the Bucks are due for

701
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 1: a bounce back. I'm gonna stick with the Rams. You're

702
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: in charge of guards these picks again. Ye, I'm going

703
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: to agree with you. I think the Rams are red hot.

704
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 4: You han't made any picks at all. I just asked if.

705
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 2: The second week of the season. I think he did.

706
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 2: I think that was the last time his name is

707
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: still on the sheet. Though, I'm going to go with

708
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 2: the Rams.

709
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 3: I think they're red hot, their defense is really good,

710
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 3: and uh Baker, they put up points, but it wasn't

711
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 3: really Baker's doing last week.

712
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: So I'll go Rams Gerby.

713
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 4: There's only one statistic you need to know until off

714
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 4: the top of my head, Tampa Bay. I think it's

715
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 4: like one night and one against the spread in the

716
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 4: last eleven games against the Rams. That's all you need

717
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 4: to know. Tampa's going on is going off to the

718
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 4: West Coast. They're not going to cover, They're gonna lose.

719
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 4: Rams are going man get one more game.

720
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: Now.

721
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 4: We may have to go there during the playoffs.

722
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: You might, you might, I don't know if you will.

723
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: Colts are at Chiefs. Chief season is on the line,

724
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: maybe right. I think Kansas City is favored by three

725
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: and a half Colts three and a half chief Holts

726
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: have come back.

727
00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 2: Is that wrong?

728
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 3: Well, no, I was gonna say, Chechiefs are five and five,

729
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 3: the Colts are eight and two. Yeah, Chiefs are favorite.

730
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 3: Chiefs are favorite.

731
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: I think part of that is desperation for the Chiefs.

732
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: They're at home, and is there a feeling that the

733
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: Colts might be coming back to the pack a little bit?

734
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. No, pun intended, they're unpack. I'm gonna

735
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hang with the Chiefs. I'm gonna hang with

736
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: Kansas City this week. Their defense is terrible, though, Colts,

737
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with Kansas City. Blakemore, I'm gonna go

738
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: the other way. I think the Chiefs win, but I

739
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 1: don't think they took. Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Colts.

740
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 4: Gerby, what what makes much sense that the Chiefs are

741
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 4: gonna be six a five or the Indiapois gonna be

742
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 4: nine and two? I mean, what does that sound right?

743
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 4: It sounds right that Indianapolis can be nine and two.

744
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 4: It doesn't sound right. It just sounds like it.

745
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 2: Doesn't unless they're real How did that happen?

746
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 4: Unless see I don't know I who kind of agreed

747
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 4: I was seeing after this and Brett Babel it's probably

748
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 4: gonna be a close game. And you're right too, DM.

749
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 4: That can't say defense is not good and indianapolis offense

750
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 4: isn't very good, that Jonathan Taylor's was very good. You

751
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 4: played Wisconsin, and so I think I will take Indianapolis

752
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 4: to cover, and off the top of my head, I

753
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 4: think against the spread in the last nineteen games against

754
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 4: Kansas City. I think Indianapolis is something like fourteen of five.

755
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: Vikings at Packers six and a half. Man six and

756
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 1: a half is the spread. I'm going to take green

757
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: Bay to win the Vikings to cover Blake more.

758
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: What do you think?

759
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 3: I also like green Bay to win, shocking. I know,

760
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 3: I'll go like twenty seven to seventeen, so that would

761
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 3: be covering the spread.

762
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 2: I'll go green Bay Derby.

763
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 4: I think you guys had good season. You had it

764
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 4: was fun for a while. And now the good news

765
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 4: is you can just slat McCaughey play all the time,

766
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 4: and you can put him in the offside. You don't

767
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 4: have to hold his hands anymore. You can just say look,

768
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 4: just go in there and get the crappyat eye you

769
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 4: and learn halfway quarterback if you can, and if you

770
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 4: stay healthy. But I don't, I don't. I don't see

771
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 4: anyway that this game is close. I don't see anyway

772
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 4: to go on a point. I don't score any see

773
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 4: any way you can stop us. I think this is

774
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 4: a I think it's kind of like a twenty seven

775
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 4: nothing what oh, maybe it's thirty five?

776
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: What's going on?

777
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: And and I'm the homer or guestling, yeah, or seipher.

778
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: It's the Homer, not a Homer.

779
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 2: You just accuse me about a shot at Homer. You're

780
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: right about this, you're the shock jock. I'm not. I

781
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: can't even match your shot, not close to twenty seven. Nothing.

782
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 4: There is no chance that Minister can be green Bay

783
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 4: this week. No chance.

784
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: That's not that's possible. It's face absurd.

785
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 4: If not possible, that you can't. They can't win.

786
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 2: What's going on bed, Breakfast and launch.

787
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 4: It was the history of Christmas.

788
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 2: I got that.

789
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's got to be something. Give me another nugget,

790
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: give me something else.

791
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,479
Speaker 4: Well, no, because come on telling what you gotta start

792
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 4: thinking ahead now because we're booking to the stuff. We

793
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 4: need some snow because we want to put up the

794
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 4: Festival of Christmas license and we want to put that up.

795
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 4: But it's it's and we can put it up, but

796
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 4: it's just no one's gonna come. It's fifty degrees outside.

797
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 4: You have to go look at Christmas. So we need

798
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 4: to get some snow. So that but we're now into

799
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 4: the holiday season, as we like to say, yeah, because

800
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 4: it's it's Christmas and some honekah and so so we

801
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 4: need some snow and but that's where our booking is now.

802
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 4: This has been a tremendous What are.

803
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: You doing for Turkey Day?

804
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 4: Except for the one food poison?

805
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: What about Turkey Day? I can't remember what you What

806
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 2: do you have planned for Thanksgiving week?

807
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 4: We got well number one, Uh, it's you know, it's

808
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 4: it's a football day. So we're not going to do

809
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 4: anything on the day of Thanksgiving, but the day after

810
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 4: and then after that we're.

811
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: Going to have to do picks on Tuesday next week.

812
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 4: Okay, I was not I was told working most of

813
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 4: the next week hours of very slow week.

814
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: I was not given the option to work on Wednesday.

815
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: I was told I can't work on Wednesday, so it's got.

816
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 2: To be Tuesday.

817
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 4: I guess who told you that.

818
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: I can't say it's it's it's I have to protect,

819
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: you know, I got to protect the big shots here.

820
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 4: Is that that Chaz Abboit no comment. I had to

821
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 4: call him and get the block of the week this

822
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 4: week there is one.

823
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: So it's a road game.

824
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, guy, we got to do something about him.

825
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: Okay, if you say so, I hope you have a

826
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 2: wonderful Yeah, to be thankful for there's a lot to

827
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 2: be thankful for this it is, for example.

828
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 4: Not so much for you guys, But there's more to

829
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 4: be thankful for for us.

830
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: Not that much more for you. How far ahead?

831
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: How far ahead are you of the vikings? In the standings?

832
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: There's two games? What's your record?

833
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 4: What's the game and a half? Because we have a tie.

834
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's not that great. I mean you're acting

835
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: like you're dominating. No, they're not very good.

836
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 4: Only gives you let us with that guy who's not

837
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 4: playing for Carson Wentz.

838
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well that's this could be. But JJ's he

839
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: played better on the road than at home.

840
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 4: Well, Ben, that's why football is a good game because

841
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 4: it it might happen. It might.

842
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: That sounds that sounds condescending.

843
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 4: It is, Dan, it's not gonna go pack it all right.

844
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: I gotta go. That is the one and the only.

845
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: Carl Gerbschmidt and uh yeah, I'll have to do picks

846
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: early next week. Don't forget Ben Gooseling at the bottom

847
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: of the hour. That's at four point thirty and Russo

848
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: radio from the X. We're back in action tonight.

849
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 2: Correct.

850
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: That's why I said to react, So he'll be from

851
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 1: the UH the Fallness Studios that is schedule for five

852
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: o'clock this year