1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Dave's not here, but I got Nate Jackson here. What's up? Nate? Hello? Right, 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: how are you? That's good, it's good. I enjoyed hearing 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: about your childhood right right before we came on the air. 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: That it's a good story. Maybe not suitable for the air, 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: but no, probably not, but it was good for It 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: was good for me and and I think we all 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: could relate to doing things that, you know, you feel 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: like it's the end of the world. It's not. Everything's fine. 9 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fine. 10 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: And you got to be able to make mistakes as 11 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: a kid, and it's not the end of the world. 12 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: And I think that you've you know, you're gonna get 13 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: busted and it's gonna follow you forever. 14 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: It's not. You know, you learn from those things. You 15 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: learn how to be uh more careful. That's right, that's right, 16 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: sneak here, that's that's the lesson. Really, it is all right. 17 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: We're excited to be here with you. All sorts of 18 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: fun interesting things to get to nicolay yohic back tonight. 19 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to the game. You're going to the game 20 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: going with my wife? Are you going? Because Joker's back? 21 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: Just sorry, We just happened to have tickets. You're so 22 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: excited off your MinC we have to have been given 23 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: tickets for tonight's game. And you know this was months ago. 24 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 1: So it's like to call the Yaks. She's hurt. 25 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: He's not gonna and I'm telling my wife, you're not 26 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: going to get to see the best player on the planet. 27 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: It's a huge bummer. But now she is well. I 28 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: could argue the other side of this, babe. He found 29 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: out that you were going to be there, and he 30 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: was like, I can't let Nate down. He's a man 31 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: of the people. He's a man of the people. He 32 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: was disappointing enough the way the Broncos season ended, and 33 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: they and then of course, you know, did it well 34 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: of his favorite wide receiver, Dvon Valley. I mean, all 35 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: all those days, the worst of days. But then Nicole 36 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: Jakus is back and it's suddenly like, you know, this 37 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: guy's a little more blue and it is it is 38 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: my stay. 39 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 2: Now it's gonna be It's gonna be a fantastic evening. 40 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 2: I'm excited to see all the boys out there playing 41 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: basketball and uh, you know, maybe Devon Vailey will be 42 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: in the house. 43 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: You never know it'd be interesting. Yeah, you know he 44 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: lives in New Orleans now, But I mean, I guess 45 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: you theoretically you could come back here because Joe Jokers 46 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: playing tonight. That's right, So Von Vley down hanging out 47 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: in New Orleans and seeing your tweets out there and saying, 48 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: you know what, he's gonna be in the house Jokers 49 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: playing tonight. I gotta be there. What tweet are you 50 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: referring to? Run? You know exactly what I'm referring to. 51 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: You're like, you know what, I'll sew it up the 52 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: best I can. Just sort of like, yeah, I really 53 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: could have used the Devon v type to win that 54 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: game on Sunday. Yeah, yeah, I do. 55 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: I mean they needed a receiver to catch the ball, right, 56 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 2: I just don't you think they needed someone to catch 57 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: the football out there? 58 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: Yes, I would say catching the football and would be valuable. 59 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 2: Yes, No, I mean you're saying that sarcastically, But in 60 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: that particular game, the receivers didn't make enough plays. 61 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: I just never penned you to be like I told 62 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: you so, guy. Never you know Ben Ben does that 63 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: all the time, and that's it's literally his entire style repertoire. 64 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what he is. Nick does that all 65 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: the time. I told you so, guy, and then you 66 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: I just had this different standard in my and then 67 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: you're you're out there on Twitter choosing violence, you knowing 68 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: in the morning, Well everybody's hurting, and you're like, you 69 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: know what, you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna pie 70 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: along a little more. You know that trade they made 71 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: back there, and august I simply said that, I think 72 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: they would have won the game if it had. 73 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how razor thin the margin for air was, 74 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: and how close the game was, and what they were 75 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: missing was a. 76 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: Big bodied receiver we could catch the ball. They didn't 77 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: have that well in that game. He lost Pat Bryan earlier. 78 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: It is right, that was exactly my point why you 79 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: need the depth. And you know a lot of people 80 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: rowed people up, yourself included, right, But my point was that, well, 81 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: I thought it was a bad move at the beginning 82 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: because I just loved him as a player. Sure, yeah, 83 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: you've been consistent, right, And and the receiver depth was 84 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: the only position group on the whole team really that 85 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: suffered multiple injuries and had injury issues. I mean, sure, 86 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: two of the top two of the receivers on the 87 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: on the feet in that game didn't start the season 88 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 1: on the team. That's not a good thing. It's not great, right, 89 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: And so. 90 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: The depth was going to be important there, especially in hindsight, 91 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: when you when you throw the ball more than anyone 92 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: else in the league, you actually throw more than everyone. 93 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 2: So you're gonna be more receivers and you're asking these 94 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: guys to block all the time on the swing game. 95 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: You need a certain type of receiver that body would 96 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: be nice. 97 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: Why are you patronizing me? I'm no the way you're 98 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: looking at me. I talked about I'd let you lay 99 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: out your case and it's it's a good lesson. It's 100 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: an instructive sort of absence there. If you want to 101 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: go to the super Bowl, you got to that's twenty games. 102 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: That's twenty football games that you got to play well in. 103 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: You're gonna need And if you have all these different packages, 104 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: with all these different receivers, you're asking them to do 105 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: all these different things. You need more than five good ones. 106 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: You had six. You let one go. 107 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 2: And had you let's say he was inactive for a 108 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: lot of the year. 109 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: Because which pat ban would have been the case, right, 110 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: So he would have been pretty healthy going into that 111 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: that and it could have been used. 112 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: I was just disappointed that there weren't any guys who 113 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 2: really felt like they were going to step up and 114 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,559 Speaker 2: make a real clutch catch for Jared Stidham. Jared Sidham 115 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: seemed to me like he was out there by himself 116 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: a lot. 117 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: And and we agree on that. We agree. The receivers 118 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: to me shrunk a bit in that game. 119 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: And uh, I don't know why, but it happened a 120 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: lot about you know, the wide receiver coach of a 121 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: teammate of mine, Carry Colbert. 122 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: I love him. 123 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: He got fired. He did because the receivers didn't perform 124 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 2: at a high enough level. Carrie's faul I don't know that, 125 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 2: but but the receiver depth was an issue. 126 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: We knew Carrie is going to get fired. The moment 127 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: Sean Payton decided to talk about the whole mechanics of 128 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: a catch in his press conference, we we as a 129 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: collective media who were sitting in the room among them, 130 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: we all looked at each other like, oh, boy, Carry Colbert, 131 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: that's tough, because you don't he took that moment, because 132 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: that's about wide receivers, and he's like, you know, let 133 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: me go over the dynamics of how to catch a football. Yeah, yeah, 134 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: I head coach doing that in the press conference usually 135 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: is on a good side. 136 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: And yet you know, Carry knows it. Carry knows how 137 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 2: to you know, I think they probably practiced that. I 138 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: hope they did and went over it. But a lot 139 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: of times these days with receiver coaches and the way 140 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: the coach that position, it's all about the routes. 141 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: It's all about your footwork. 142 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 2: It's all about your hips, it's all about getting it 143 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: out of brakes and setting guys up with that, and 144 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,239 Speaker 2: less about your. 145 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: Hands and finishing second the league drops. Yeah, well a 146 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: lot of that is both too. Just rifleing the ball. 147 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: I mean, you know he's gunning it at you no 148 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: matter where you are on the field. 149 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: Josh Allen guns it at people. 150 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 3: No. 151 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: No, no, he's got the strongest arm in the league. 152 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: He's talking about. No, you're really antagonizing me already a lot. 153 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: No Boat has yet to learn. 154 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: I've got to all the offensive because usually I've learn 155 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: about it with you because sometimes they're be like, oh, 156 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: Nate's here, it's gonna be a lot of fun. And 157 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: then I sit down and you're just writing on me 158 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: on stuff. So I know I appreciate it. I am 159 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: not just gonna no. No. I I was like, because 160 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: because I learned. It's like not last time one of 161 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: the other times we sat down and you've been pom 162 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: right out. Oh all right, here we go. So sorry, No, 163 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Josh Allen does have a strong arm. 164 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: He does have a strong arm, but he also knows 165 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: when to apply touch to a throw not You don't 166 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: just use that strong arm for every throw you do. 167 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: So Bois is still learning that, Yeah, absolutely, and I'm 168 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: sure you see that. I mean, he still needs to 169 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: work on his touch on deep balls. He needs to 170 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: work on his touch on shallow crosses coming across. You know, 171 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: you don't always have to gun it in there. And 172 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: I think BOE's going to learn that as he goes. 173 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: And I think the you know, the leading the league 174 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: and drops thing or second in the league drops thing 175 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: is twofold. 176 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: Yes, these guys need to learn how to catch with 177 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: their hands more, but also. 178 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 2: That that ball's beating him up a little bit, and 179 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: so that's why they're doing that with their body because 180 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: maybe they're afraid of breaking their fingers, right, So so, yes. 181 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: You're a wide receiver. What are we doing here? Well, 182 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: the fingers are made to be well, yeah, I know, 183 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: you explain it to me. Then why those guys are 184 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: just body catching? I mean, you know L. J. Humphrey 185 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: continues to just try to cure it. He does. 186 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: Troy Franklin always just kind of throwing those hands up 187 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: against he does like that. Pat Brian catches with his hands. 188 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: Cortland Sudden has some drop issues, which is uncharacteristic. So 189 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 2: that's something that whoever is the next wide receiver coach, 190 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 2: I'm throwing my hat in the ring there. 191 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: If they want to give me a call, I will 192 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: second the nomination. I would get these guys ready to go. 193 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 2: I know you will, because to me, it's not about well, 194 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: the route is important, but finishing is more important. You 195 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: don't always have to be wide open to make the catch. 196 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 2: You know you have to you have to use your body. 197 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 2: You have to go attack the ball in the air. 198 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 2: Why do you look sat me like that? 199 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: Just because I just fixed in my head like the moment, 200 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: Pat Brian, you know, Davon Bailey would no, no, you 201 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: can't feel like, hey, you know Devon runs that route 202 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: really well, that was that was the one and only 203 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: personnel mistake that they made this offer in this season. 204 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: I disagree, but no, it wasn't a mistake. You say, no, 205 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: I don't think it was a mistake. Cool. Yeah, and 206 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: we disagree on that. Well yeah, I mean, you make 207 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: calculated assessments of your roster at the time. And again 208 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: it's one of those like you. It's like, we could 209 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: say Russell Wilson was a mistake. Right, Well, we get 210 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: the benefit of hindsight at the time. There's a lot 211 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: of people very supportive of that. You you obviously shipped 212 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: off a lot more for that transaction and the implications 213 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: that transaction impacted you all the way through this last season. Right, 214 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: So we're talking about four years, five years of the 215 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson experience. I mean Travon Bailey, who was a 216 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: seventh rounder who you were able to flip for a 217 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: fourth and seventh. That is a very very minor quantifying 218 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: a quad and that's not a good That's not an 219 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: accurate way to talk about his absence and what that 220 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: did to a team. But my point is is it 221 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: becomes a bit self serving. When it's something that you 222 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: didn't like at the time and then ends up not 223 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: working out the way you wanted to. So the people 224 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: that were at the time didn't like Russell Wilson. Well 225 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: guess what. Then all of a sudden, at the end 226 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: of this thing, you're like, I told you so, I 227 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: told you this was a bad move. But guess what, 228 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: there was a lot of people and you as a 229 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: GM cannot operate in the function of well, not everybody's 230 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: gonna love this, but I'm gonna have to do this. 231 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: You have to make a move, and you have to 232 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: do things what you think is best for the roster 233 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: of the time, and then you have to not look back. 234 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: You know, you have to look back. And that's why 235 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: some of these guys just got fired because you're looking 236 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: back on the season and you're seeing what worked. So 237 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: jammers already got fired because no, no, no, no. 238 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: What I'm saying is you diagnose what went wrong for 239 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: your team, right, And what went wrong. 240 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: For this team was its offense. Its offense was not 241 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: productive enough. That's true, okay, and so that's why you 242 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: had three firings. You also did not have enough depth 243 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: in the wide receiver room or not enough experience in 244 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 1: the wide receiver room, and you let a guy go 245 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: who proved that he could be a part of that 246 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: in a positive way. And so it's less about the 247 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 1: guy de von Vley than it is. 248 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: About how to construct your team going forward. That'll keep 249 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: that longevity in mind. You're trying to make a Super 250 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: Bowl run here and you put it on you thought 251 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 2: Troy Franklin and Pat Bryant were going to be your 252 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 2: you know, your number two and number three adequate enough 253 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: to get you there, and that was an incorrect calculation. 254 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: And so how did that go about? How can we 255 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: make sure that doesn't happen again. 256 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: That's why I brought up Devon Vley because that was 257 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: a miscalculation. 258 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: Okay, glad we've heard of that out. Okay, we could 259 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: talk about von Vailey for three hours if I know, 260 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: I know you could. Well, if we did that, that 261 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: I bring in Zach and then it's not fair than enough. 262 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: Oh well, then you know Zach is PFF and right 263 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: Advance metrics and he's going to crush you. Qualitative over 264 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: x RT was awired with all the VSA analytics, Zach 265 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: would absolutely crush you. Less than three hundred yards. Isn't 266 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: that complicated? Of course it is because there's context all 267 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: of it. I mean, Zach, you don't be silly. He 268 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: didn't get a lot of playing time. He was traded. 269 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: When was he traded to the North for the season 270 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: right before the season started? How are you supposed to 271 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: get folded in or when you are learning the new offense? 272 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: You get there right before the season. 273 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: There's some roadblocks to being a productive member of that team. 274 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: That is fair. He did have the second most naps 275 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: of any receiver in that room. Okay, and it's a. 276 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 2: Bad team, right yeah, I'm not talking about what he 277 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: did in New Orleans because that's a bad team. Bad quarterback, back, 278 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: coaching back. Oh we want Michael Porters. 279 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: You you're tearing it up last night on a bad 280 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: team and he's so unproductive. 281 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: What did he what did von Vailey do here here 282 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 2: when he was a member of this to just say. 283 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: Being on a bad team actually should mean you get 284 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: more No, you should get more opportunities because the ball 285 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: needs to go to somebody. No, man, that was actually 286 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: the best Chris alv you always in and out of 287 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: the line U because he was hurt. It was the 288 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: third leading target guy in the entire league. I know 289 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: he still didn't play the whole season. I don't know 290 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: why you're disparaging a professional football player who contributed to 291 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: a playoff season here and was really like the darling 292 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: of camp. I love. No, you don't know, I really do. 293 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 2: But I'm trying to make a point to you guys, Okay, 294 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: that going forward, the way we evaluate our receiver room 295 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 2: can't be Look. 296 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: At this rookie had a great camp. He's going to 297 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: be the future man. And this guy he's really catching 298 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: passes a training camp. That's what you guys were saying 299 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: right about Pat Bryant and about Troy Franklin, which of 300 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: us had yet to go through puberty. In that voice, 301 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: you both have nice beards, but we have to improve. 302 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: We're not gonna have to improve. 303 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: They were always have to improve, and that receiver room 304 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 2: has to also improve. 305 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: If Justin Jefferson got traded right before the season to 306 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: a team, I imagine he would make an impact. I'm 307 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: just kidding. Come on, come on, So I just say, 308 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, what do you think if Justin Jefferson 309 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: got traded to the New Orleans State for the season, 310 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: do you think Justin Jefferson would have a pretty big 311 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: impact that year. I'm not saying Devon Vailey is Justin Jefferson. Guys. 312 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 2: Okay, do you think a better receiver on the field 313 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: on on Sunday would have helped this team win? Okay, 314 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: if you ever think about that, But I'm sorry, see 315 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: I don't, but see that this is where small thing 316 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: and then we can move on because I'm certain people 317 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: are like, what are we still arguing with this? 318 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if Devon is better 319 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: than Pat Bryant's or you know, by the way, in 320 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: the equation of this entire thing was Evan Ingram, who 321 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: did not perform much to the level that we thought 322 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: he was going to be. So all I'm I'm just 323 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: saying that the equation in all is when this decision 324 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: was made, it was like heaving Ingram. He's kind of 325 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: like a big slots, right, I mean, we can use 326 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: him as a receiver at times. He got fifty passes 327 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: with the quiet fifty past fifty reception season i've ever seen. 328 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: So you know that, and then you hope we can 329 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: go all through this. 330 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: I hope we can go through it in a way that's, 331 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: you know, less pugnacious and more practical, and we can 332 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: kind of talk about why this is an issue. 333 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: Mandy says, I'm crying listening to Nate's impression of you. 334 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: That's the funniest thing ever. That was pretty good. Good 335 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: Thing's make sure I returned to that. It was pretty 336 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: messed up, but it was pretty funny. Text Lie likes 337 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: it as well. Nate does a great job. Get him Nates. 338 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: It's good. Yeah, they're gonna be looking at the whole 339 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: point of this, actually, believe it or not, there was 340 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: a point they are going to upgrade the room, and 341 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: we're on the same page with that. Remarkably, we are 342 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: on the same page with that room needs needs an addition, 343 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: and probably a significant one, and we can debate over 344 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: the course of the offseason, because unfortunately we're here about 345 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: what that looks like. Do you trade draft capital to 346 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: go get an established player you spend when your premium 347 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: picks at wide receiver? Do you add somebody in free 348 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: agency like Mike Evans or something along those lines. I 349 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: mean that those are those are the options. Alec Pierce, 350 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: like people want to I'm saying, he's like Corland Sutton 351 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: they're like the same guy. I'm good. I'm good on 352 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: Alex Pierce, and he's gonna cost a lot. I mean, 353 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: he's gonna be like one of the prize guys because 354 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: they had a big season out there, a big couple 355 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: of seasons out there at the Colts. So I'm with 356 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: you on that. It's an interesting it's a great position 357 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: to have because of the Broncos. By the way, did 358 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: you see you with the salary cap number three hundred 359 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: olio one three ozho five it's just jumped up another 360 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: twenty to twenty six. It's jumped up like seventy five 361 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: in the last three years, So just exactly as you said, 362 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: two seventy nine point two and twenty twenty five, and 363 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: it's projected to between three oh one and three oho five. Yeah, 364 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: this year twenty thirteen, just randomly even just go back 365 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: a decade, but just I have this because Tom Pellisera 366 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: put this out twenty thirteen, the salary caps one twenty three. Yeah. 367 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: I think my last year two thousand and eight, it 368 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: was like seventy five. Yeah. Crazy. Now there's players almost 369 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: making that much. I mean at this point, yeah, I mean, 370 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: you're you're in the if you're one of the premium players, 371 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: it's and we're gonna obviously the quarterback number just continues 372 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: to be silly. If this is that year, this is 373 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: the year the Russell Wilson money's off. Bonix is still 374 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: in his rookie contract, that's the one if there is. 375 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: You know, again we talk about regret whatever you can't regret, 376 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: but the regret of not having the full capacity of 377 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: your rookie quarterbacks contract through the meat of that where 378 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: now they've been spending money either way, right, But just 379 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: to say, usually after the third year is when you 380 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: start to pay your quarterbacks. If they're your guy, you're 381 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: gonna start paying them. Then the Broncos didn't get the 382 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: benefit of the first two of that. They get this one, 383 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: they get this year right now, but there they didn't 384 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: get the other two because of the Russell Wilson dead cap, 385 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: which is a bit of boomer but you make you 386 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: made decisions at the time, you thought you were gonna 387 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: get the Daniel Hacket and Aaron Rodgers. You didn't get 388 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: that deal, so you said, well, the next best thing 389 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: will be Russell Wilson, and you know it just wasn't here. 390 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: Hackett got a new gig. Congratulations Miami back push in Miami, 391 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: I already know which quarterback to you. Well, I mean 392 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers might have a job down there in Miami. Well, 393 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. Wasn't he just hanging up baron? You know? 394 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: He Well, I don't know. Yeah, he played fine, but 395 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: but it just shows you. I don't think his skill 396 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: set has diminished much, but the game has changed and 397 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: it's you can just see it swallowing him in ways 398 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: that it used to not. And I think it's going 399 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: going to get more and more intense. How miamiy Steelers 400 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: games did you watched this year? Just had a curiosity 401 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: like for fanful? Yeah, most people whenever they're on prime time. 402 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: Did you see how curmudgeon Ley he would like stared 403 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: down people when they would make mistakes. Now, outside looking in, 404 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 1: I find you highly entertaining, Like it was hilarious. It 405 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: was hysterical to watch him stared down receiver like you're 406 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: the reason why we're losing this. And the irony is 407 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: he doesn't come to mini camp, so you're. 408 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 2: Gonna show up like the last possible second and then 409 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 2: get mad that you're not on the same page with 410 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: these guys. 411 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: But then there's a little bit of an empathy for 412 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: me because I'm like, if I was that wide receiver 413 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: and then there's this future Hall of Famer staring me down. 414 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: Like you, as a former wide receiver, what I mean, 415 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: you've ever experienced that where basically the quarterback's laying it 416 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: at your feet. Why all misery is happening in the world. 417 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, you drop a pass or 418 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 2: do something like that. Quarterbacks don't like it, but you know, 419 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 2: you shake it off. You shake it off. I mean 420 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 2: I never played with a guy like him, just at 421 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: the end of their career and was very particular, very rich, icillar. 422 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, I just, like I said, for me 423 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: on the outside looking in it, I was like, oh, 424 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: this is hilarious. I hope they lose every game because 425 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: this guy is such a swerp. Yeah, and and I 426 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: just didn't think the the machinations of it were really 427 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: worth it. But at the same the other side of 428 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: it is like, this is low key, very funny because 429 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: now you're just waiting for somebody to screw up so 430 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:17,719 Speaker 1: he can be like you that game where he got 431 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: his nose it was bleeding and just sitting on the 432 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: sideline just he's doing mean mugging. Yep, everybody, it's good 433 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: to see you. Man. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad 434 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: to be here. Yeah, listen, I will, I will lighten up. No, 435 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: don't keep going, Okay, lean into this, lead into it. Yeah, 436 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: all right, we're off arlling here on a Friday, Ran 437 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: Edwards Nate Jackson. I told you so, guy, I'm very 438 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: excited to be here with you. This hour shits so 439 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: when a thousand dollars coming in the next five minutes 440 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: thanks to Mercedes Beans of Littleton Mercedes Littleton dot com, 441 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: this is gonna be your punshing back today. I've never 442 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: been retweeted by Adam Schefter, so I have twice. Now, 443 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: So what was the other one? I forget the other one. 444 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: It was, so you told me in your lifetime you've 445 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: been retweeted by Adams Strutter twice. You can't even remember 446 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: the other tweet? Yeah, oh it's about your door Sanders. Okay. 447 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: Also recently it was about your door graduating, you know, 448 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: walking getting his degree and okay and that kind of thing, 449 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: which I thought was cool. It wasn't like about the 450 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: ring of fame stuff or any of that, like like 451 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: going to the. 452 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 2: CU Hall of Fame, like it wasn't it wasn't, it 453 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 2: wasn't mean it was it was. 454 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: It was a positive tweet. Oh good. 455 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: Positivity is the way to go on Twitter if you 456 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 2: haven't noticed, I mean, that's what really gets you noticed, 457 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: A really measured, even keeled yeah, idea measured Yeah. 458 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is actually it's literally the opposite of all 459 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: those things you just said. But I thought it was 460 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: fun to let you finish. 461 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 2: I can't gain any followers on Twitter, and I'm pretty 462 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 2: sure it's because I've made nice No. I made fun 463 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: of Elon Musk a couple of times with some tweets. 464 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: And one time I sent a tweet and you know, 465 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: typically when you send a tweet, it just it's immediately posts, right. 466 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: It took like ten or fifteen minutes to post, oh boy, 467 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 2: and then after that it got like no engagement. 468 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: And after that, like none. 469 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 2: Of my tweets would ever get engagement at all or 470 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 2: any views. It'd be like I sent a tweet out 471 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 2: I have like whatever, seven thousand followers, and it would 472 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 2: have like thirty two views on it, and like how 473 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 2: does that happen? And I'm pretty sure I'm shadow banded 474 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 2: by Elon and his cronies for making fun of them, 475 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 2: so you gotta. 476 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 1: I don't know how I get unbanned. Like I do. 477 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: I send some tweets out talking about how cool Elon 478 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: is and what a trendsetter, and how I like his 479 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: leather jackets and his belly looked really fit when he 480 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: was like jumping up on stage at the MAGA rally 481 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: and stuff. I don't know, but I'm pretty sure that 482 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: there's some somebody's pressed the button or something that's preventing 483 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: me from growing. I don't know, or maybe I'm just 484 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: not as active as I could be if I wanted 485 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: to grow, which I think is part of it too. 486 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: I don't tweet often, but like I mean, you just 487 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: said it's chefty retweets me's pretty big deal and I 488 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: don't get any Actually, you didn't get any followers from it. 489 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: Was a really good take, too, amazing take. Yeah, I 490 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: was talking about Mike Schannyon's right. You know how this 491 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: ripple effect of the bell bell billet schick bell belletchick 492 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: bell Bill Belichick. So first he doesn't get the Hall 493 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: of Fame. Now we can't pronounce his name rights. Yeah. Well, 494 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: you know, Bill Belichick is get snubbed. But he broke 495 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: up with his girlfriend, did he? Yeah, oh tough week. 496 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: They'll get back together because you know, it's the makeup. 497 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: It's the makeup. That's why they're doing it. I didn't 498 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: quit you, Bill, Well, she's likely date Hall of Favors. Yeah, 499 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: I mean allegedly allegedly. Well I don't. I'm bummed that 500 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: you didn't get any any runoff. That's definitely nelon thing 501 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: you should. You should definitely start saying nice things. Maybe 502 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: go buy a Tesla. I don't know, just I'm throwing 503 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: out some ideas for Yeah, that's a good idea. You know. 504 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: One of his trucks, the cyber truck. Yeah, yeah, I. 505 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 2: Think if you what do you think when you see 506 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 2: a cyber truck coming down the street, what's the first 507 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: word that pops into your mind? 508 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: Just say, I'm not going to because I would not 509 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 1: be able to keep this job, But I I I 510 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: do think that it's uh, it's rectangular. Yeah, it's a trapezoidal. Yeah, 511 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: that's that's that's the thing. What idiot? It's it? 512 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 2: It looks like like a like a rover that would 513 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: be on Mars or something. 514 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: If it makes people happy. Yeah, whatever, there's a teal 515 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: one I saw the other day. I'm like, no, that's 516 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: a that's a that's a statement, right, it's a decision. 517 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: It's a decision they made. They said, honey, everybody else 518 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: has got the silver one. I see a couple of 519 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: black ones out there as first driving around. But now 520 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: I gotta get a teal one. That's what I want. Yeah. Anyways, well, yes, 521 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: you need to do you need to say some nice things. 522 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: But you want I don't know. I don't know how 523 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: you get out of shadow band. And by the way, 524 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,239 Speaker 1: keep Twitter and tweet. It is not going to help you. 525 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: Oh probably so Twitter. Twitter is to tweet as excess 526 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: to what you know, what I mean, I mean, that's 527 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: a fair point. It's it's post I think I think 528 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: the posting now, yeah, it's it doesn't feel the literation. No, 529 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: I'm I don't even care whether I get followers or 530 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: lose followers for it. I'm gonna call it Twitter for 531 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: the rest of my time. Yeah. It's not even some 532 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: kind of like I'm being brave. It's just it's Twitter 533 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: to me. And even when I open the browser, I 534 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: type in Twitter and then it redirects me to act 535 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: and that's fine. I don't that's fine. He owns it. Yeah, 536 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: he paid forty four billion for it. But I'm going 537 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: to keep typing into power money. I mean our I 538 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: like gets. 539 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 2: Hour, isn't heavily subsidized by the US government for a 540 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 2: lot of his projects And that's where his. 541 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: Net worth comes from. Actually, now that you mention it, 542 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: so it is our money. So then why are you 543 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: shadow band? I know when you are paying for the websites? Yeah? Yeah, 544 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: asking me? I don't know, man, But it was cool. 545 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: It was a great sweet about Mike Shanahan. And it's 546 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: exactly the right points to be made because lost in 547 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: all of the uproar about Bell Belichick, Bill Belichick formerly 548 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: now getting into the Hall of Fame is the fact 549 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 1: that he will get in probably as soon as next year. 550 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: And that's one more year that we have to wait 551 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: on Mike Shanahan. Yeah, and that's garbage. Mike's not getting 552 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: any younger. These older coaches who have to wait, I mean, 553 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: Randy Gratishaw, who have to wait forty years. What are 554 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: we doing, guys? 555 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 2: If you have to open it up and have a 556 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,719 Speaker 2: couple more guys going every year. 557 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: Who cares, But you got to get these older gentlemen 558 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: who have been waiting, get them in. 559 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 2: I mean, are we really is there any consternation as 560 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 2: to whether or not Mike Shanahan is going to get 561 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,479 Speaker 2: into the Hall of Fame back to back Super Bowls 562 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 2: one one, two years prior to that as an offensive coordinator, 563 00:26:54,960 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 2: his coaching tree is his philosophy. Everything speaks of one 564 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 2: of the main architects of this sport and someone for 565 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 2: whom that deserves the respect that the Hall of Fame 566 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: gives these guys. 567 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: And man, I just want to see him get in yesterday. 568 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: You know, he deserves it, deserves it, and he shouldn't 569 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: have to wait. I mean, you shouldn't do wait as 570 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: long as he has no anyways, But now it's starting 571 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: to feel as though I just don't know when I 572 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: mean like at this point. So it's not to say 573 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: that like I do think it's going to happen, And 574 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: I think the problem with these situations becomes, especially with 575 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: these voters, is well, he's got to get in, but 576 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: in the meantime, we have to get these other guys in, 577 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: Like give it, He'll get in but we have to 578 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: get some other people that maybe you are also deserving, 579 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: who are on the tail end of their availability for 580 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: this thing. We got to make a case for them too, 581 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: because we don't want them to slip through the cracks. 582 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: Mike Shanahan's a tire, He's a titan of industry, right, 583 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: He's gonna make it in. But in the meantime he 584 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: gets overlooked at the same time, And I think that's 585 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: what you're more saying. Text line and Nate, what is 586 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: your Twitter? So somebody wants to follow you? Oh awesome, 587 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: it's at Nathan Sirius. Well maybe that's your problem. What Well, 588 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: it's not your name and they don't know if it's 589 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: you for sure. I'm just saying, so you want me 590 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: to change my handle, I think you should do whatever 591 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: makes you happy. I'm just saying, first of all, if 592 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: you put a cyber truck in your abbey and then 593 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: and then I would change it to know your name, 594 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, I don't know. 595 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 2: I just I think Elon Musk is kind of a dork, 596 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 2: you know, So this isn't help of your face. 597 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,959 Speaker 1: He's not listening, but he probably has bots listening. I 598 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: guarantee you're gonna send it to him. Oh I got 599 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: banned again. Somebody's gonna clip this section of the show 600 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: and send it to him. Yeah, and be like you 601 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: remember that guy that you shadow band for a good reason. 602 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: When he talks, he's still talking noise about you. When 603 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: he talks, he talks like this, like his bottom lip 604 00:28:55,240 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: doesn't very often touch his top lip. His teeth are 605 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: his top. 606 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: Lip when he talks things like this, And so when 607 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 2: he comes you like. 608 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: Like Data Carvey tried to do Elon Musk, Michael Mike 609 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: Myers does Elon Musk on Saturday Night Life. Yeah, he 610 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: is a pretty not bad Yeah. Then I always look 611 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: at him as like the Sprockets guy. Whever he does that, 612 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: he's going around like that. Yeah, I wish you could 613 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: camera some people can see that. You just did the 614 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: whole thing. We got our first, Nate, can you do 615 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: Sean Payton? Uh so maybe when we come back. 616 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 3: So yeah, listen, when we get back, we're going to Yeah, 617 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 3: we feel good about it. 618 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: Let's a go. Uh see howle Seahawks are going to 619 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: be going up for sale after the super Bowl? Talk 620 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: about an interesting sort of plot twist congratulations to the 621 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: Super Bowl and your favorite most of the country's actually 622 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: rooting for you, and then you're gonna have new ownership. 623 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: It's kind of similar deal, by the way, for what 624 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: the Broncos went through with Paul Allen, the owner of 625 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: the cl Seahawk passed away several years ago. I think 626 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: his sister has been kind of running things for a while. 627 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: So they're gonna put it up for sale, and you know, 628 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be probably six seven billion dollars. I mean, 629 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: it's you know, especially if you win the Super Bowl 630 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:19,239 Speaker 1: this year. 631 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: My gosh, I mean, the money just coming into the 632 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: league is incredible. Goes up every year, salary cap you 633 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 2: mentioned it going up to over three hundred million, television revenue, 634 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 2: I mean ninety three of one hundred most viewed television shows, 635 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 2: and in any given year, NFL football games remarkable. 636 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: Even this game with the Broncos and Patriots, it was 637 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: like thirty seven million or something like that. I mean, 638 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: it was even hired than five I thought, oh, maybe 639 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: you're right, yeah, five million. It was a good game. 640 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: It's like that's like fifteen percent of the country, fifteen 641 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: to twenty percent. Matt's some my thing, just as Dave. 642 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: I'm not even try but take your words. I'll take 643 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: your work for numbers. I deal with numbers, but it's 644 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: like on the fly if I have to do math, 645 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: which is really depressing because at one point in my life, 646 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: when I was a younger man, I was a bank 647 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: It was pretty good. I worked at a bank. I 648 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: wanted to actually be a mathematician. Mathematician, did you Yes, 649 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: I went to school for math for like a semester. Oh, 650 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: and then you realize you weren't good at it, that's right. 651 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: Oh well, I realized I didn't really have the passion 652 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: for it. I didn't have the passion for math. Not 653 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: all do not, I'll do right. It's something that you 654 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: either have or you don't. And I did not. And 655 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: then I tried to be pre vet and that didn't 656 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: didn't work so well either. I did that for a 657 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: couple of years before I realized I didn't like biochemistry. 658 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: So you've borne many hats now in your life. I've 659 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: done a few things. Yeah, to lead me to this 660 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: day when I get to give you a hard time 661 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: about your Devon vele tweet. 662 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 2: Yeah that's fine, Yeah, yeah, that's fair, fair game. 663 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: It is what it is as you put it out 664 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: there and you're trying to get followers because of it. 665 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: On the text line here five six six nine zero, 666 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: can we get an aid doing Sean Payton talking to 667 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. 668 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, Aaron, Look, yep, come on in, close the door. 669 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 3: So relative to the season, there's a few things, look 670 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 3: that I wanted to ask you. I've heard that you 671 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 3: have some interest in ayahuasca ceremonies in various Peruvian jungles. 672 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 3: I'm interested in a coming along on the next one. 673 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 3: I don't know. Look, it's so, is there. Can you 674 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 3: talk about the lodging situation, because typically I like running water, 675 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 3: but in this situation I might be able to make 676 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 3: an exception relative to epiphanies and things of that nature 677 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 3: that might come from a ceremony like this. 678 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: Way to go. No, aahuasca is a tea, though it's not. 679 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: I don't think you smoke it. Well, he's saying it's 680 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: the it's in the family. I guess the family. I 681 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: don't think they're mutually exclusive. I guess is where I 682 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: was going. I wouldn't know. 683 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be doing one at the same time you'd 684 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 2: be doing the other no doing well preparing. No Aaron 685 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 2: Rodgers and Payton are planning out the trip. 686 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: Well maybe a. 687 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 2: Plan, but but aahuasca and some of those plant medicines 688 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 2: that you do in the jungle with these indigenous cultures 689 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 2: and stuff. They want you to really clean out your 690 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 2: your gringo diet in advance of that, like because otherwise 691 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 2: it's not going to work. You have you know, we 692 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 2: have like this overflowing dumpster of a biome, like a 693 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 2: gut biome here in America. 694 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: We don't eat very well, we don't, you know, we 695 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: drink a lot of crap. 696 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 2: And if you want those medicines to work, you got 697 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 2: to clean out that gut biome. And so no no stimulants, 698 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 2: no caffeine in a lead up to that, no obviously, 699 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 2: no no ganja, no alcohol, no no sugar, no fried foods, nothing. 700 00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: No salt. 701 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,239 Speaker 2: I mean, you've got to go in super clean and 702 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 2: so that you have nothing in your tummy that's going 703 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 2: to cause any problems because it's a kind of a 704 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 2: it's a it's a noxious sort of mixture that you 705 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 2: drink and a lot of people will end up throwing 706 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 2: up a lot from it. 707 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: Relative to how are we supposed to you literally listen 708 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: to an entire American diet. No, I know, I know. Yeah. 709 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 2: And part of the reason why we feel like crap 710 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 2: and feel like we got to go into the jungle 711 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 2: and do this because we're spiritually depleted is because we're 712 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 2: stuffing this crap down our face. And so if we'd 713 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 2: only just clean up our diets, then we might not 714 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 2: even have to go into the mountains and drink ayahuasca. 715 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 2: But it's kind of part of the experience to realize 716 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 2: what you're doing on a daily basis to make you 717 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 2: feel like crap. 718 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: I think you, mister calling Man, could have been a doctor. 719 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: You could have been you know, leading the I don't 720 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: know whatever, the government agency, the FDA. I guess I 721 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: got up there telling everybody, listen, stop beating the stuff. Well, 722 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: we canna be spending more time in the jungle. I 723 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: should just be spending more time you know, outside in general, 724 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: touching grass, touching grass, moving around, moving your body. It's 725 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: about movement, is it. 726 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 2: You know, Back when I was playing football, I couldn't 727 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 2: eat anything I wanted. I was just working out so 728 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 2: hard and so often that it just fell right off, 729 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 2: you know, in fact, I was playing tight end in 730 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 2: the NFL and that was even too heavy. I mean 731 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 2: I was too light to play that I could not 732 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 2: keep the weight on. I would eat as much as 733 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 2: I possibly could, and I would still just And I 734 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 2: know that some of that is genetic, but there's something 735 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 2: to be said for just getting up and getting moving 736 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 2: and doing something strenuous. You can eat what you want 737 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 2: as long as you're not sitting on your butt all day. 738 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 2: You're sitting on your butt all day, it's gonna hurt. 739 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,280 Speaker 2: Get up and get moving and you can have that cheeseburger. 740 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 2: I felt motivated already. We'll come back to the latest 741 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 2: with the Broncos offensive coordinator. 742 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: We'll get to the next