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Speaker 3: media dot org to book. Right now, you think Mike

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Speaker 3: Holmgren would come by and take some Santa photos with

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Speaker 3: you and me by the way at the Holiday Collective

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Speaker 3: in Bellevue, sitting on his lap, Why why not? I

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Speaker 3: think we should be able to sit on Santa's lap.

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Speaker 3: You ever dress up as Santa Claus for a family

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Speaker 3: Christmas parties?

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Speaker 4: Mike, No, No, I haven't. I haven't. I leave that laws.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, God, see that shocks me.

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Speaker 3: That stuns me that you, being the elder States part

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Speaker 3: of the family, have never dressed If the kids asked you,

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Speaker 3: would you do it?

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Speaker 2: Though? Heck, if I asked you, would you do it?

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Speaker 4: Well, if you asked me, if my kids asked me,

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Speaker 4: if I do.

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Speaker 2: It, I would? Yeah? What about me?

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Speaker 4: Well, now let's leave it. Can we leave it at that?

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Speaker 3: Well, we're having a big company holiday party and I

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Speaker 3: would like you to dress up as Santa Claus by

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Speaker 3: the way, so maybe we can make it part of

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Speaker 3: your new contract here for next year or something. But

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Speaker 3: Mike Congrin is with us on the air, and we'll

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Speaker 3: get to the Commander Seahawks in a minute. We saw

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Speaker 3: them play on Monday, albeit with a different quarterback. Looks

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Speaker 3: like Jane Daniel is going to play on Sunday night

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Speaker 3: against the Hawks. But Mike, I gotta first all ask

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Speaker 3: you about what's going on Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: At the end of last year, had Daniel Jones and

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Speaker 3: Sam Darnold on the roster together, two of you could

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Speaker 3: argue top five six quarterbacks in the NFL right now,

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Speaker 3: and they're both gone.

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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy is gonna start. Carson Wentz has hurt.

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Speaker 3: They just signed John Woolford, who Seahawk fans remember beat

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Speaker 3: the Hawks in a playoff game back in twenty twenty. Well,

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Speaker 3: the Rams. But my question to you is this, if

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Speaker 3: you're Kevin O'Connell and you won fourteen games a year

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Speaker 3: ago with Sam Darnold Vikings, let him walk, and now

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Speaker 3: you're just a mess at the quarterback position, how angry

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Speaker 3: are you? Honestly? If you're Kevin O'Connell right now, the

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty upset, you know, And I you know, I

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Speaker 4: don't know how they work, but it's who makes the decision,

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Speaker 4: who makes the final call. I think probably he does,

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Speaker 4: you know, And they obviously like JJ McCarthy and so,

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Speaker 4: but it has not no you look at that and

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Speaker 4: if you're gonna be honest about it, so I think

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Speaker 4: it's hard right now, it's hard, and it just shows

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Speaker 4: every team Washington is a great example too. You lose

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes you get lucky or not lucky, but sometimes you

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Speaker 6: Well, how long is that leash with McCarthy there, do

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Speaker 6: you think? Because it's a different situation. They're supposed to

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Speaker 6: they're built to win right now. They won fourteen games

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Speaker 6: last year, so this isn't a rebuilding team that's like, oh,

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Speaker 6: we're going to give this young kid three years. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing I think they really clearly they

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Speaker 4: he has not been the answer. Because he's been injured,

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Speaker 4: he has been able to play, and there it amounts

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Speaker 4: you know, I think it's tough for the coach.

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Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned you thought it was O'Connell's call. I mean,

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Speaker 3: nobody knows for sure, but he would just take us

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Speaker 3: the idea to let Darnald walk after drafting McCarthy. Do

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Speaker 3: you think that that was kind of O'Connell's wish that, Hey,

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Speaker 3: you know what we got one year out of Sam,

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Speaker 3: Let's see what the young guy can do. I wanted him,

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Speaker 3: we drafted him because of me. Or do you think

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Speaker 4: Well, I take it has to be the head coach

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Speaker 4: making that call. But I would I would say this,

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Speaker 4: and I've been in situations where you draft, you draft

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Speaker 4: but right away, no, let him learn and keep keep

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Speaker 4: Donald for another year, see how it goes. And then

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Speaker 4: I groomed the guy and get him ready to play,

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Speaker 4: but just to clear the deck and say the ball

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Speaker 4: he's been hurt.

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Speaker 6: Well when it comes to Donald, now I's switching to that.

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Speaker 6: I mean people used to say, well, Sam, Donald's never

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Speaker 6: succeeded anywhere, but is it fair now? That we can say,

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Speaker 6: Wait a second, Sam Donald has never failed when being

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Speaker 6: in a competent system.

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Speaker 7: He's now two for two.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. No, he's a good player, and I think I

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Speaker 4: me everything you need at the position the way he's

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Speaker 4: him on time, he's smart, he's a good leader, his

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Speaker 4: he's entering a new phase of his life. I'm happy

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Speaker 4: to see him. Happy for him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know why.

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Speaker 4: You know what, Dave, You're quite I don't know why

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Speaker 4: they did it. I really don't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well they did it because they drafted a guy.

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Speaker 2: Is that what it was? McCarthy.

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Speaker 3: So, I mean, like you said, they could have given

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: But Mike homeguns with us and Seahawks commanders on Sunday night,

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Speaker 3: and I'm noticing that the Seahawks are first in the

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Speaker 3: carry on rushing offense. All right, they've played seven games.

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Speaker 3: asked Hugh Millin if he thinks the running game can

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Speaker 3: I think he said he's skeptical of that happening. What

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Speaker 3: do you think can the Seahawks go from almost worse

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Speaker 4: Well, I think there's a room for improvement because right

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Speaker 4: now they're not functioning very well on offense, so rushing

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Speaker 4: And you know, we said it all along. The offensive

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Speaker 4: but as a group, it hasn't The new system hasn't

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Speaker 6: Something that surprised me a little bit, Coach, is how

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Speaker 6: It's fifty seven forty three right now between those two

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Speaker 6: Ken's the number one and we're going to give him

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Speaker 4: I would say so, you know, but again, and we've

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Speaker 4: know the reasoning behind splitting it like that, I'm not

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Speaker 4: sure it's it's the new NFL kind of You know,

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Speaker 4: every team has like two running backs and they shuffle

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Speaker 4: But that's how they do it now. And I think

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Speaker 4: that's what they do.

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Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned Sean almost get into two thousand. He

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Speaker 3: was one hundred and twenty yards short. If you wouldn't

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Speaker 3: he would have gotten two thousand yards.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: And every time I see Sean, he says, remind Homegrin

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Speaker 3: of that, by the way.

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Speaker 2: Every time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I know I saw him. I saw him

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Speaker 4: once when I was doing a game for Westwood. He

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Speaker 2: You know, Well, what do you make of this Commander's team? Man?

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Speaker 3: Because Dick was talking yesterday and there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: I remember them just crushing the Lions in that divisional game.

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Speaker 3: I mean there was no flash in the paint about that.

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Speaker 3: That was a really good Lion team. They were banged

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Speaker 3: up on defense at the time. I get it, but

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Speaker 3: they looked awesome in that game, and then they had

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Speaker 3: what do you make of this Commander's team? What are

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Speaker 3: you making Jaydon Daniels. I mean, you see a real

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Speaker 3: you see maybe a little bit of a one hit

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Speaker 4: No, I think the threat. They're a threat when they're healthy.

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Speaker 4: You know, they have a really good coach. I believe

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Speaker 4: really good. But he's been hurt. He's missed some games.

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Speaker 4: And like I said, when the quarterback who was you're

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Speaker 6: You know what else he likes to do coach. He

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Speaker 1: Now back to Softy and Dick on your home for

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Speaker 2: All right, we normally do this a little bit later

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Speaker 2: So we got the Ravens given seven and.

438
00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:52,520
Speaker 4: A half tonight?

439
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,840
Speaker 3: Is that correct? Against Miami? The game is in Miami.

440
00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:57,439
Speaker 3: Who do you like tonight?

441
00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,639
Speaker 2: We're gonna go with the Ravens. Okay, to win by

442
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,800
Speaker 2: eight or more, the better win, all right? Why do

443
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,760
Speaker 2: you feel so confident in your selection, Taylor?

444
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,480
Speaker 5: I heard the Dolphins defense is really bad, so we're gonna.

445
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,320
Speaker 2: Go with that. Are who you do that from? By

446
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 2: the way? AI?

447
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 7: Okay, see A I.

448
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,639
Speaker 3: Can help anybody, all right. So Baltimore minus the seven

449
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 3: and a half is the pick. So far, she's been

450
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:27,360
Speaker 3: choosing massively, poorly choose one, So hopefully today she'll choose wisely.

451
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,879
Speaker 3: So text in poorly or wisely to four nine, four

452
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,679
Speaker 3: to five, one, your first and last name, your email,

453
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 3: the whole spiel, and the pick and we'll pick one

454
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 3: winner from the correct group for fifty dollars.

455
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 2: Here to the five twenty bar and grow. You guys.

456
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,399
Speaker 3: Got a big event coming up tomorrow night, in a

457
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 3: big weekend. Right, what's going on tomorrow?

458
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 2: We have our Halloween party.

459
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,119
Speaker 7: DJ starts at eight pm.

460
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,119
Speaker 5: We have some new menu items, like the mushroom ravioli

461
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 5: that's been really popular, so we're just getting some new

462
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 5: menu items ready for winter.

463
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 2: I love it, all right.

464
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 3: You want handicapping advice in mushroom ravioli, there's only one

465
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 3: place to go on the east side, the five Tory.

466
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:01,960
Speaker 2: All right, you have a good Halloween. We'll see you

467
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 2: next week. All right, you are, Let's go. Let's go.

468
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,239
Speaker 2: Taylor likes the Ravens and the Points. You like it

469
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 2: for tonight, Dick? I love it.

470
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 7: I love It's one of my favorite Taylor picks of

471
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:12,640
Speaker 7: the last year.

472
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 2: And a half. Oh, you're just saying that. You're just

473
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,640
Speaker 2: saying that, and I would too. She's a nice guy.

474
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 2: She needs a little bit of help.

475
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 3: By the way, we got we got ripped apart by

476
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,199
Speaker 3: the Ian for an sgo for helping out Jackson. Did

477
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 3: you hear about that at us for helping Jackson make

478
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 3: his selection on Factor Fish.

479
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 8: I think I think we need to he needs and

480
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 8: Ian doesn't understand what's happening here. I think Ian misunderstands

481
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 8: what's happening. Okay, what's happening is Wednesday has turned into

482
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Speaker 8: a group selection.

483
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 2: Ian.

484
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 8: I'm talking directly, you know, Ian, it's a group selection

485
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 8: that I don't care if my name's on there or not.

486
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 8: But I think you guys have made it clear that

487
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 8: my name is going to be on there, right, So

488
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 8: so I don't really care one way, And I'm not

489
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 8: cheating or anything. This is a group pick on Wednesdays.

490
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 8: Now that we're assigning my name.

491
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Speaker 3: Let me just tell Ian uh, in the words of

492
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,880
Speaker 3: Paul Moyer, get over number one, number two. We've been

493
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 3: discussing selections before every pick we make for years on

494
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 3: this radio show, for years.

495
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 2: Absolutely right, So does he think we're cheating for you?

496
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,719
Speaker 3: Does he honestly believe that Dick should sit in a bubble,

497
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 3: I should sit in a bubble, and Jackson should sit

498
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 3: in a corner, and just we make our selections and

499
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 3: we don't even know what they are until they come

500
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Speaker 3: out over the air.

501
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 2: Is that the way they do things?

502
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 3: Maybe you know what, maybe in the words Elane Kiffin,

503
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 3: maybe it's why they stink.

504
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 2: Well, it's why we're in fiction.

505
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 7: It's why we're gonna win again.

506
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 6: I think we took one year off last year of winning,

507
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 6: and then we win every other year. But it's like

508
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 6: match play, Dave, you and I are playing match play.

509
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 6: You can help me read a putt, of course I

510
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 6: can help you read a putch tease.

511
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 2: Right.

512
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you think, uh, you think an NBA basketball team

513
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 3: goes out there and they just tell the point guard, Hey,

514
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 3: just do whatever you want. We'll just we'll just figure

515
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 3: it out when the play starts. But yeah, we like uh,

516
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 3: we like the Ravens too. Tonight Taylor's got the Ravens.

517
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 3: So get those texts into four nine four five. One

518
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 3: would draw somebody with the correct group of answers for

519
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 3: a fifty dollars gift card to the five twenty bar

520
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 3: and grill. How about what Rick new Isisl said earlier

521
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,479
Speaker 3: about if Jed Fish wants the UCLA job, he can

522
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 3: have it, almost making it sound like he's number one

523
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 3: on their list.

524
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Speaker 7: It worried me a little bit.

525
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:23,360
Speaker 6: Although again, unless it's simply a geography call by Jed

526
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 6: fish right and his wife right, there is no reason

527
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 6: to go coach UCLA over Washington zero. Yeah, like other

528
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 6: than weather, that's it. I mean, they're they're a prohibitively

529
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 6: worse team with much less nil money. Yes, and they're

530
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 6: the they're the same less thing.

531
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Speaker 7: A college football team in that town.

532
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Speaker 6: And when you rank the sports in that city as Petros,

533
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 6: where is UCLA football on the continuum of sports in

534
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 6: Los Angeles like eighth?

535
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 3: Maybe? Yeah, I mean I don't know. I mean, are

536
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 3: they below the LA Galaxy in.

537
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 7: LA now with like the Anaheim Ducks?

538
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 3: You tell me, man, But their fan support is embarrassing,

539
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 3: it really is, And I don't blame There's a story

540
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 3: coming out that UCLA is trying to get out of

541
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 3: their lease and that the Rose Bowl in the city

542
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 3: of Pasadena are going to sue them for trying to

543
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 3: break their lease, which, by the way, that leads me

544
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 3: to believe that they're further down the road and trying

545
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 3: to break their lease than people think. Yeah, if they're

546
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 3: actually going to file a lawsuit, then they are way

547
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 3: down that road. But their lease with the Rose Bowl

548
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 3: in the city of Pasadena goes through twenty forty four

549
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 3: for another nineteen years, and they want out of it.

550
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 3: They want to get out of it, and they want

551
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 3: to go play games at Sofi Stadium. So maybe Jed Fish,

552
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 3: I'm just spitballing here, sees a new era starting at UCLA,

553
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 3: getting out of the Rose Bowl, going somewhere else. Maybe

554
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 3: he thinks there's a being told there's a big time

555
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 3: donor behind closed doors that's going to give him a

556
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 3: gajillion dollars to do whatever he wants for nil I

557
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 3: got no idea, right, nobody has any idea. I was

558
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 3: asked though, on Chuck and Buck this morning because they

559
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 3: follow this stuff. Look, man, if we're talking about beard

560
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 3: talk and water cooler talk, this is a topic that

561
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 3: fans are talking about, Husky fans are talking about. There's

562
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 3: rumors about Jetfish whatever. Maybe he's not an overwhelming topic, obviously,

563
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 3: but it's out there.

564
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 2: And I would just say, if you asked me one.

565
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 3: Of the odds of him leaving at the end of

566
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 3: the year, I'd probably say thirty seventy. I said fifty

567
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 3: to fifty this morning, but I probably going thirty seventy

568
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 3: against it happening, which is not insignificant.

569
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Speaker 8: No.

570
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 3: I mean, if it's a twenty five percent chance even

571
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 3: for you, that's not insignificant.

572
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 5: No.

573
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 6: And when you have a resume like Ched does of

574
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 6: popping around, then that that number is going to be

575
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 6: higher than it is going to be for most people.

576
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 6: But I was thinking about what new Heuisl said about

577
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 6: Dan Lanning, and I've been thinking about this for a while. Yeah,

578
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 6: do I, as a Husky fan, really want Dan Lanning.

579
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 2: To leave Eugene.

580
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Speaker 6: I don't think Dan Lanning is a particularly good, Yeah

581
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 6: in game college football coach.

582
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 7: He can get recruits, but can't everybody get recruits.

583
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 3: At Oregon, Mark Helfrit Kunt, he's the one guy, and

584
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 3: Free Willy Kunt, two guys there. They both got fired.

585
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 3: And Helfritz is from Eugene and he was a coordinator

586
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 3: and he couldn't do it. I mean, I just think this.

587
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 3: I think Dan Lanney's got twenty million dollar buyout that's

588
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 3: gonna be hard for someone to swallow. Now, will somebody

589
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 3: pay that? Maybe maybe LSU steps up and pays it,

590
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 3: and he's paid what's his nuts fifty million dollars, let

591
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 3: me ask to walk away. But he does have a

592
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 3: twenty million dollar buyout at Oregon. And he was on

593
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 3: with what's his face? The NFL network guy that does

594
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 3: the radio show, come on, help me out? Here does

595
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 3: the national show. The football guy. Used to work for ESPN,

596
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 3: Now he does the he does the show on Sirius

597
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 3: or Fox or whatever.

598
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 7: Rud Tucker.

599
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's some guy whatever who great?

600
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 3: No, no, no, the freaking TV host, the talk show guy,

601
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 3: the guy that does play by play every now and then,

602
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 3: what the hell is his name? He used to work

603
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 3: for the NFL network in ESPN, Now it does a

604
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 3: radio show. He had Dan Lanning on the day. It

605
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 3: doesn't matter. Dan Lanning was on the day and said,

606
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 3: I'm never leaving Oregon.

607
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 2: Never.

608
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 3: If I'm winning, I'm not leaving Oregon, meaning they have

609
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 3: to fire me. Now he's saying all the right stuff.

610
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 3: The twenty million dollar buyout, Rich rich Issan thinking the

611
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 3: twenty million dollar buyouts a stroke of genius by Oregon.

612
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 3: It really is, And it just makes you kind of

613
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 3: realize Jetfish is at ten million, he's half of that.

614
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 2: That's gonna be no problem for someone to buy all right.

615
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 7: Well, let me ask you that question.

616
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 6: I was pondering if you looked up at your phone

617
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 6: and said Dan Lanning's new head coach at LSU.

618
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 7: Are you happy as a Husky fan or are you

619
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 7: a little bit worried as a Husky fan that he'll

620
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 7: actually find somebody better than.

621
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Speaker 3: I'm Probably I'm probably happy he left. I think I

622
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 3: think he's a good fit for them. I agree with you.

623
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 3: I don't think he's a great in game strategist, but

624
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 3: I also think.

625
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 2: That he's a really, really good recruiter and he's a really,

626
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: really good fit for ORG.

627
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 7: Was he one and three against Washington?

628
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: Uh? He is? Yes, one and three only beat him

629
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: completely rebuilt?

630
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 3: Right, But to be fair, he's only been there for

631
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 3: three years against you, Dub. I mean that was his

632
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 3: because it was twenty twenty two, he lost, twenty twenty three,

633
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 3: they lost twice, right, but you could are twenty twenty

634
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 3: four he beat Jed, So it's only three years worth

635
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 3: of games. Now he gets pushed around this year by Jetfish,

636
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 3: then there's a pro he's got a Washington problem. If

637
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 3: he doesn't play, and I mean play well against you, Dub.

638
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: If he loses this year, and he's one and four.

639
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 3: Then I think it's less a trend and more of it.

640
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 6: But you can make an argument that at least one,

641
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 6: if not two, of those games Dan Lanning cost his

642
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 6: football game. It wasn't his players that game at Husky

643
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 6: Stadium last year. I think Oregon probably outplayed Washington on

644
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 6: the field, and Dan Lanning's decisions cost them the football.

645
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: I think he's a good coach for them. I think

646
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: he really is.

647
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 3: I think you need kind of a psychopath down there,

648
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 3: a blend in with the Northwest and be a you know,

649
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 3: crazed animal and a guy that can really work his

650
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 3: ass off and recruiting, because we've seen a couple of

651
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 3: guys go down there and not do well and they

652
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 3: both got fired.

653
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 7: So for I forgot about we're gonna play