1 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: Once again. 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: I'm your host Tatum Everett, and we've got one of 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: our best shows yet coming up. The Viking secured a 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: dominant win over the Commanders at home, blanking Washington. 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 2: Thirty one zip. 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: So many good things happened in the most complimentary game. 8 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 2: Of the season. 9 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: Now, Vikings fans will be waiting all day for Sunday 10 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: night when the Vikes traveled to Dallas to face the 11 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: Cowboys on Sunday Night Football. But you can watch NFL 12 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,319 Speaker 1: Game Day morning on the NFL Network, bringing at eight 13 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: am on Sunday to catch our next podcast guest, Kurt Warner, 14 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl winning QB, caught up with me about 15 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: playing through adversity and his thoughts on Vikings. QB JJ 16 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 1: McCartney joining us today is a true NFL legend, guiding 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: the Saint Louis RAN's greatest show on turf, winning two 18 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: league MVPs and an MVP. 19 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: In the Super Bowl in nineteen ninety nine. 20 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: Hey through for thirty two thousand yards and guided two 21 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: franchises to Super Bowls as well as being inducted is 22 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Kurt Warner we are 23 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 1: so excited to have you here on our channel. 24 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:10,199 Speaker 2: How are you doing. 25 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 3: I am doing great. Thank you so much for having me. Yeah, 26 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 3: of course. 27 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: Well I really want to pick that elite quarterback mind 28 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: of yours. As we've seen JJ McCarthy come into his 29 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: own here in the second in his second year in 30 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: the NFL. You've watched and analyzed a lot of his film. 31 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: What did you see in his performance on Sunday in 32 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: the win against the Commanders. 33 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think there's a there's always a 34 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: combination of things, and so you know, I broke down 35 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 3: JJ a couple of weeks ago one of his performances, 36 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 3: and you know, I was talking a lot about in 37 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: their system, how you know that they asked the quarterbacks 38 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: to start one place and then work through their progressions 39 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 3: from there. And I felt like in that performance he 40 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: was he was slow getting from one to the next. Guy. Okay, 41 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: So when that happens, obviously you can miss a lot 42 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 3: of things can break down in front of you, and 43 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: some of those things can happen. So when we go 44 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 3: to this past week's performance, I thought that process was 45 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 3: sped up for him, and I think there was a 46 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 3: couple of reasons first, you know, when your number one 47 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 3: receiver is open more often than they're not, makes the 48 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 3: game a little bit easier where it's more about pitch 49 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: and catch and just getting back and throwing the football. 50 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 3: And so a number of those things happened. So coach, 51 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 3: you know, Koc did a great job of designing some 52 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 3: things to allow him to have some easier reads from 53 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 3: that perspective, and then he made the throws and then 54 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 3: the times where he had to kind of process and 55 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 3: see through it. I thought he did a much better 56 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 3: job this time around at you know, getting through those 57 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 3: things a little bit faster so he didn't have to 58 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 3: speed up the throw part of it, because that's the 59 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 3: other thing. When you're playing late as a quarterback and 60 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 3: all of a sudden you see something and it's like, 61 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, I got to be I should have 62 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: been there, and I got to throw it. Now, you 63 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 3: speed up the process of throwing it. And I think 64 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: that was part of some of his issues with accuracy 65 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,399 Speaker 3: early in the year, was he was a little laid 66 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 3: on things. So he's trying to throw things a little 67 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: bit harder, he's trying to speed up the process, and 68 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 3: it's going to lead to more errant throw. So the 69 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 3: more he can slow things down, obviously, the more that 70 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: that coach can call plays that they get his first 71 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 3: guy open. But the more he can slow things down, 72 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: be more comfortable with what he's seeing and play the 73 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 3: game at you know, at a slower pace when it 74 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: comes time to throw it, the better he's going to be. 75 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 3: And you know what, you're always hoping for these young guys. 76 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 3: And again, I know we talk about him as a 77 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 3: second year guy, but let's be honest, this is really 78 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: his rookie year from standpoint of playing. You want to 79 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: see the ascension. You want to see guys, you start 80 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: the season somewhere and then make slow upticks along the way. 81 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 3: And you know, the unfortunate thing for JJ, and I 82 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 3: keep saying it, is that this team won fourteen games 83 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 3: a year ago, and they've got a lot of talent 84 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: on the team, and they chose to go with the 85 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: young guy, And so everybody expected the same sort of 86 00:03:55,040 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 3: results from this team because the team's the same. But 87 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 3: you know, he's a second year quarterback and he hasn't 88 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 3: played a lot of football and he's trying to fit 89 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 3: in and figure it out. And so I think our 90 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: expectations for this team and for him were way too 91 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: high from the get go, and if we would just 92 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: step back and go, okay, le's forget about the team 93 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 3: and let's just look at a rookie quarterback and what 94 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: we're expecting and start one and what we're expecting halfway 95 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 3: through the season with the guy who's been injured a 96 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 3: couple of times. You want to just see the progress 97 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 3: being made. And if last week is any indication, you know, 98 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 3: there's definitely been some progress to where he was earlier 99 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 3: in the year. 100 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: When you think of how he made that progress in 101 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: Sunday's game, whether it was the different types of plays 102 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: that were called, the schemes that set him up, well, 103 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: where do you go next in order for him to 104 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: build and grow and off of that performance? 105 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 3: Again, there's always, you know, two sides to the story. 106 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 3: Is there's the one side as a coach of going, Okay, 107 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: this is what this defense does that we're playing against, 108 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 3: this is how we're going to attack them, these are 109 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 3: the things that we like, these are the plays that 110 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 3: we're going to put in. And then there's the other 111 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: side of it going but where is JJ what is 112 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 3: he comfortable with? What are things that he does well 113 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 3: that we can also have success against this defense with, 114 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 3: so we're not constantly throwing new things at him where 115 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 3: he can't play his best. And so that's the challenge, 116 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: you know, every week with great offensive minds like you 117 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 3: know Koc that sees it and wants to create it 118 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 3: and wants to create the perfect play to get the 119 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 3: big play because he's so good at that, and then 120 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: realizing what you have as a young quarterback. You know, 121 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 3: you don't have a Sam Darnold that's been in the 122 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 3: league for a long time or Kirk Cousins has been 123 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 3: in the league for a long time and has seen 124 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 3: and run a lot of different things. You got a 125 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 3: young guy that you're trying to bring along. So you 126 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 3: need to try to keep him as much in his 127 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 3: comfort zone as you can while still attacking the defense 128 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 3: and having success with it. And so it's always, you know, 129 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: a challenge. It's always a juggling at for these really 130 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: good coaches to be able to do that, you know, 131 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 3: and because a lot of times they got to settle 132 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: for like, Okay, we can't do everything I want to do, 133 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 3: you know, and then you come out of a game 134 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 3: and you didn't have as much success, and you're like, 135 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 3: I wish I, you know, would have done this, or 136 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 3: I wish I could have done that, while at the 137 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 3: same time going but the bigger picture is we've got 138 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: to get this young man ready to win US championships 139 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 3: at some point, and we have to realize that's not 140 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 3: this year. You know, we can't expect that from him 141 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 3: this year. And you've got to, you know, fight those 142 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 3: two balances of winning and playing your best football while 143 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 3: also bringing you along a young quarterback. Right. 144 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: I mean, there is a very very very small percentage 145 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: the fact the Vikings will make the playoffs. The NFC 146 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: is just so good this year. And when you think 147 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: of these final games of the year, what do you 148 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: want to see or what would you want Viking fans 149 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: to hope to see from JJ to see that the 150 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: future for next season is a good one, is a 151 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: positive one. 152 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you want to continue to see steady growth, 153 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 3: you know. And that's the biggest thing is that you 154 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 3: want to try to use these last four games to 155 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: build into next year, you know. And that doesn't mean 156 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 3: you're giving up on this year and you're not saying, hey, 157 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 3: let's try to win them all and see if we 158 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: can get the playoffs. But the idea is simply, let's 159 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 3: keep getting better, let's keep building, Let's go into the 160 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: off season with everybody feeling really good about where we're at, 161 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: or in this specific case, let's get everybody feeling really 162 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: good about the quarterback that's in our room and what 163 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 3: he can be for us. That's the fan base, that's 164 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 3: the team in general, that's the coaches, that's the quarterback. 165 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: You know, like we want him going into the off 166 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: season feeling really good that we're putting in a position 167 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 3: to play his best football and to help us win. 168 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 3: And so that to me is kind of the underlying 169 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 3: thing that you're trying to accomplish in these last four 170 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 3: games is play good football. Be competitive. I mean, you know, 171 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: coming off the game this past weekend, I mean, huge 172 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 3: Updick JJ plays great, you get a huge win, you 173 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 3: start to see it, Okay, you know, maybe we're not 174 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 3: that far off. I mean, you don't blow people out 175 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 3: in the NFL unless you're playing good football. You don't 176 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 3: fall into those games very often. So it's a great 177 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 3: start for them, you know, down the stretch here, even 178 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 3: if they don't make the playoffs. But that, to me 179 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 3: is what you're looking to do. You're looking to walk 180 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: off the field after Week seventeen going okay. I like 181 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 3: where we're at going into the offseason and into next season. 182 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: This is something that we can build up when the Vikings. 183 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: Do face a tough challenge though this week, when they 184 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: face an experienced quarterback in Dallas. Dak Prescott is having 185 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: a great year. He's got some of the most skilled 186 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: players on the roster as long as Ceedee Lamb. 187 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: Is able to play. 188 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: You've also got George Pickens, Jake Ferguson with that incredible 189 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: catch the other night. When you are Brian Flores and 190 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: you're dialing up what you want to do against that 191 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: Dallas offense, what are you thinking you can take advantage 192 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: of just to slow them down on Sunday? 193 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 3: Well, coach Flores does a great job of keeping you 194 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: off balance, especially in third down situations, and so I know, 195 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 3: you know his goal is going to be to win 196 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 3: person second down. That's where they're so good defensively. And 197 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 3: you know Dallas, you know where they've been their most 198 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: successful is when they win early downs. You know, because 199 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 3: they've been able to run the football and do some 200 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 3: of those things. So I think it starts right there is, 201 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: you know, coming up with a plan to slow them 202 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 3: down early so you can use that blitz package to 203 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 3: create some negative plays and you know, force Dak to 204 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 3: have to think and maybe make some mistakes. And then 205 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 3: I think the other area, you know, while you're trying 206 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 3: to balance all of that out, is just not giving 207 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 3: up the big plays. You know, Dallas's offense is built 208 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 3: on the big pass plays, pushing the ball down the field, 209 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 3: you know, George Pickens, you know, stretching the field with him, 210 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 3: ceedee lamb. The chunk plays work in the middle of 211 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 3: the field, but that's what they do so well. And 212 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 3: for any offense, even the best offense in the league, 213 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 3: when you can take away the big plays and force 214 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: them to make ten and twelve play drives, you know, 215 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 3: against a really good defense that can create havoc, that's 216 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 3: when you win these type of football games. So going 217 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 3: into this game, that's to me, what it's all about. 218 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 3: Don't give up the big plays, the easy chunk plays, 219 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 3: and then force Dallas, you know, into some third and 220 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 3: longer situations where you know that blitz package of of 221 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: you know, Minnesota can can really create havoc and create 222 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 3: some negative plays and hopefully give the ball back to 223 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 3: their offense and JJ McCarthy a few more times. 224 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe they would bring up another nineteen play ninety 225 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: eight yard involvement and drive. 226 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 2: Who knows. 227 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 3: Yep. 228 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: Oh, one last thing before I go kurty, because our engineer, 229 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 1: Cole and I were talking about what to ask you 230 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: a little bit before this, and so I wanted to 231 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: to I can't take credit for this, but when you 232 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: think of Brian Flores's defense and so many exotic defenses 233 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: that we see that make so many different checks and 234 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: movements at the line, how much of that were you 235 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: seeing then? 236 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: And how's that really evolved since you've played the game. 237 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we would see some, but maybe not 238 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 3: to the extent that you see it now. You know, 239 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 3: you see a lot more of this. Everybody walks up. 240 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 3: You know, it's it's what we would call a blitz 241 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 3: zero look. So for those listening at home that may 242 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 3: not know, the blitz zero look is obviously straight man 243 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: across the board. Everybody else is up at the line 244 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 3: of scrimmage and you know, looking as if they're going 245 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 3: to bring all those defenders, which usually means we can't 246 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 3: block them all, and so there's gonna be an extra 247 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 3: defender somewhere, and we got to get the ball out 248 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: of our hands quickly and make a play. But now 249 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 3: you're seeing a lot of teams, and obviously you see 250 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 3: it on a weekly basis. Is Coach Flores does a 251 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 3: great job of giving you those looks and then running 252 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 3: out of those looks to a variety of different zone coverages. 253 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 3: You know, he'll bring some guys, he'll drop some guys, 254 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,599 Speaker 3: but they have the ability to get back to a 255 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 3: lot of their different coverages from that. And that's the 256 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 3: thing I don't think we saw as much when I 257 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 3: was playing. You know, we would see you know, the 258 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 3: walk up players with the guys in the A gaps 259 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: and people popping out some of that, but not to 260 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 3: the extent where you have so many guys at the 261 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 3: line of scrimmage and then the you know, the ability 262 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 3: for anybody to drop out right, you're going to see 263 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 3: on a weekly basis. You know, defensive tackles pop out, 264 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 3: defensive ends pop out. When I was playing, those guys 265 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 3: weren't quite as athletic as they are now, so most 266 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 3: of the guys popping out were the linebackers or the safeties, 267 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: not those big defensive linemen. But now those guys are 268 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 3: so versatile that you can blit anybody, and you can 269 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 3: drop anybody and still have a good chance to be 270 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: successful in your zone coverage. So that to me, where 271 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 3: is where it's gotten more complex, and specifically on third 272 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 3: down and why you know, it's so key for teams 273 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 3: to stay out of those third and long situations where 274 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 3: you've got to hold the football and throw it down 275 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 3: the field because they create some easy opportunities in the 276 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 3: pass rush and three rushers on the quarterback that make 277 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 3: it really, really hard. 278 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: Okay, not to really put you on this bot because 279 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: I told you I wasn't. 280 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 2: We weren't going to even talk about this. 281 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: But have you have you seen any of that reflected 282 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: in college? Does that make the quarterback transition even more 283 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 1: difficult because it's some thing you've never seen? 284 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think you're seeing it to the degree 285 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 3: that you see it at the NFL level. There's just 286 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 3: not the time and the sophistication to it. At the 287 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 3: college level. You know, you might see aspects of it 288 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 3: that are going to be much easier, much more defined. 289 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 3: You know, where Ryan Flores might have ten different calls 290 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 3: from that look. A college team may have two or three. Okay, 291 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 3: so now you know, okay, I'm either getting this or 292 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 3: I'm getting that, and so yeah, you make that transition 293 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 3: to the NFL. Yeah, it's very difficult. And then the 294 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: next piece to it is that I don't think even 295 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 3: NFL offenses do a great job of creating easy, hot opportunities, 296 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 3: right quick throws against pressure for their quarterback. So now 297 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 3: you're getting all these looks, and you want to try 298 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 3: to solve those looks with protections and backs and protection, 299 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 3: it's not going to happen. So it leads to so 300 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 3: many negative plays every week because they don't have the 301 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 3: proper answers or because they're not ready to handle it 302 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 3: and come up with the proper answers in those type 303 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 3: of situations. And so I do believe it's more sophisticated, 304 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 3: but when guys aren't ready for it and they come 305 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 3: to this level, it's a tough thing to be able 306 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 3: to decipher and get the ball out and continually make 307 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 3: positive plays against looks like that. 308 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: All right, well, Kurt, thank you so much for your 309 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: time today. 310 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 2: We really appreciate the insight. 311 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: And of course you can watch him on NFL game 312 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: Day mornings starting at eight am Central Time on the 313 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: NFL Network. Check that out Sunday before the Vikings play 314 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: later that night. 315 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: Get your football all day. Thank you so much, Kurt, 316 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: you got it. 317 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. 318 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: Thanks to Kurt Warner for joining MVP. We will have 319 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: more for you after the short break, including nine to 320 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: noons Eric nor Twist, so stay tuned. 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Welcome back into the Minnesota Vikings podcast. 335 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Tatum Everett. If you missed our first 336 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: guest of the evening, Hall of Fame quarterback Kurt Warner 337 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: joined us and you can find that interview anywhere you 338 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: listen to your favorite podcasts or Vikings dot com or 339 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: the Vikings app. We now have one of our favorite 340 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: friends of the program joining the show. Let's get to 341 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: our chat with nine to Noons Eric Norquiest. 342 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: Well, hey, Nordoh, how's it going. We haven't talked in 343 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: a little bit. 344 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 4: It's been a while, it's said a while, and a 345 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 4: lot has happened. 346 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean different got. 347 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 4: Shut out and then we shut out a team. 348 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: Right, it's been it's been a while, and like, what 349 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: a difference it feels like today as opposed to previous 350 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: times we've talked, where you know, the first shoutouts in 351 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. 352 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: You get this victory. 353 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: What are what is going on in the mind of 354 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: Minnesota sports fan as you are, you know, assessing the 355 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: current Viking situation. 356 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 5: Well, I think for the most most part, the way 357 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 5: we've handled it not and noon is we just the 358 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 5: the a topic for this team with five wins. I 359 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 5: want to see JJ McCarthy take steps. I want to 360 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 5: see him evolve. I want to see him to see 361 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 5: feel success is good, us to see success is good. 362 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 5: So I think I think the majority of fans uh 363 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 5: not apathetic, but but in the same sense, I think 364 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 5: they've already kind of maybe transition their mind, like want 365 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 5: to see the QB play well, but now they're already 366 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 5: thinking about as soon as things go south, a lot 367 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 5: of fans start thinking about draft position. 368 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: Did you get any of that this fan line even 369 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: after the win? 370 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 3: Oh? 371 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 5: Absolutely, Yeah, there was kind of this, this kind of 372 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 5: this cross cut where celebrating that JJ took some baby steps, 373 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 5: which I think he did some measurably better things than 374 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 5: we've seen from him. 375 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 4: So that was exciting. 376 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 5: No turnovers, three touchdowns, just quicker processing. Sure, there's a 377 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 5: lot of negativity and losing, so you know, for me, 378 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 5: whether it was seeing that shut out on Sunday, and 379 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 5: I think for most fans as well, getting to see 380 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 5: success from JJ McCarthy. Finally, how about a complimentary effort, right, defense, 381 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 5: take away, all three phases. 382 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 3: Great. 383 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 4: You got to see Kevin. 384 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 5: O'Connell run the ball really more with more commitment, maybe 385 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 5: at least within a single game, than we've seen through 386 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 5: his entire time here as head coach. 387 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 388 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: I mean, if you think about it, this was the starting 389 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: group you had your eyes on in trading. 390 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 391 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: And the Vikings and Cowboys have quite the history. Obviously 392 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: they play each other on Sunday Night Football this week. 393 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: You can date back to one of the best rivalries 394 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventies between those two teams. See. 395 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. 396 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 4: That is true. 397 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 5: Yes, I don't I'm not emotionally compelled by the the 398 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 5: way that some of are older. 399 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: Viking team seventy five. Yeah yeah, I know. 400 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 5: I've been told team goes to four Super Bowls. But 401 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 5: that was the team. That's what Vikings fans, the older 402 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 5: ones have told me, is that was the team. And 403 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 5: that's why that push off to this day still means 404 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 5: what it does. 405 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 2: It does mean a lot. The herschel Walker trade. 406 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: Some other iconic memories, Randy Moss's three touchdown game. 407 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 5: Now we're now we're creeping into my Yeah that was Yeah, 408 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,959 Speaker 5: that was that was fourteen year old Nordo. I think 409 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 5: it's thirteen or fourteen years old when when he had 410 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 5: the Thanksgiving the three catches, three touchdowns like a buck 411 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 5: sixty five. 412 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: Yeah and so and so, this one's going to be 413 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: an interesting one. Hopefully there's another iconic moment. However, there's 414 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: just not as much on the line. I think the 415 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys went from like nineteen percent playoff chances to six 416 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: percent right now. 417 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 5: Well, the Cowboys I would say this, I don't know 418 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 5: what the percentages are, but they do play the Eagles again. 419 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 5: They beat them in that comeback effort two three weeks ago. 420 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 5: Well the Eagles at six, six and one, you got 421 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 5: the you got Jalen Hurts just throwing it around the gym, 422 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 5: and then suddenly they're eight and five. 423 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 4: So they're just a game and a half back. 424 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 5: I think we're gonna get a really motivated Cowboys team. 425 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 4: We can really only make the playoffs if they. 426 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 5: Win the NFC East, yes, just because of how stack 427 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 5: the NFC West and Bears and Pack and our division 428 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 5: of course, of course, So I think you're you're going 429 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 5: to see them very motivated and it's gonna be kind 430 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 5: of a fun and I'm hoping JJ can hold serve 431 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 5: in this, uh JJ McCarthy because uh, just look at 432 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 5: the skill players that are going to be on the field. 433 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 5: If IF, IF Cede Lamb's good with his concussion, if 434 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 5: and and he's going to be back Thursday night. Gave 435 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 5: him a couple extra days. Pickens can absolutely hustle on 436 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 5: that field. They have this floor NOI this young cat 437 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 5: that's pretty good. 438 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. 439 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 5: And then Cavante Turpin, I mean they got they got 440 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 5: speed all over the field. Ferguson they figured out how 441 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 5: to really make use of him at the tight ends. 442 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 2: This last week's game was incredible. 443 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 4: It was gorgeous. 444 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 5: And uh and then we have our skill set with 445 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 5: a QB trying to figure out how to throw his 446 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 5: way around the gym. So skill players go lore under 447 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 5: the bright lights of Jerry World. 448 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's going to be exciting. It will 449 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: be a bigger task for JJ McCarthy. I think it's 450 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: easy to say that the Cowboys defensive line is a 451 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: bit more talented than the Commanders. 452 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 4: I think the most pass yards in the league though. 453 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: They yes, well, I mean the. 454 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 5: Geberflus's bunch, like they got Eziraku this rookie. 455 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 4: That's pretty good. 456 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 5: I think Kenny Clark has actually kind of limited him 457 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 5: in snaps in recent weeks. 458 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 4: I don't know what's up with that. Quinnin Williams can. 459 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 5: Ball out though, So yeah, there are going to be 460 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 5: a little bit better defensive group. Statistically though that the 461 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 5: Commanders were as gettable as it gets in regard to 462 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 5: our opponents down the stretch here, but the Cowboys not 463 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 5: too far behind him. 464 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: They're number one in total yards. 465 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: On the offensive side of things, they're averaging about twenty 466 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: nine point three points per game. So, I mean, do 467 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: you foresee this to be a barn burner? I mean, 468 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: I hope so, right, I. 469 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 4: Hope so, because that means, well, I don't. 470 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 2: See that happening with our defense necessarily. 471 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 5: I hope we replicate the shutout, but that seems yeah, 472 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 5: but that seems unlikely, So we'll settle for the fact that, 473 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 5: I mean, this is going to be you know, I 474 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 5: don't know if we ever talk about NFL totals, but 475 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 5: this might be of the overwhelming variety in terms of 476 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 5: points potentially being scored, and it's going to be the 477 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 5: biggest challenge. We saw Jay Ward playing a lot of 478 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 5: corner and kind of and they've mixed him up a 479 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 5: bunch where they can put him on the field from 480 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 5: a safety spot and he was you know, from a 481 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 5: tackling standpoint maybe against the Commanders. 482 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 4: That was a factor that saw him. 483 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 5: I mean, this is going to be a big day 484 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 5: for Isaiah Rodgers. He's going to keep you, keep up 485 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 5: with you with the speed, but can he finish those 486 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 5: freaking tackles And that's going to be a talking point 487 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 5: with Byron Murphy too. Yeah, the biggest challenge of the 488 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 5: year for our second area in particular with all these 489 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:47,959 Speaker 5: skill players. 490 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 2: Awesome. 491 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much norn No for your insights, 492 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 1: your thoughts and your time today. 493 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 4: Thank you You're the best. 494 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: Nah No, not at all. 495 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: Well, we do record this a little earlier in the week, 496 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: so if you want to dive more into the matchup, 497 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: make sure you listen to Nordo alongside Pa on nine 498 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: to noon. 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