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Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp, the

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Speaker 1: House Whisper on demand on the iHeart Radio app. Good morning,

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Speaker 1: my friend, and welcome home. I am Dean Sharp, the

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Speaker 1: house Whisperer, custom home builder, custom home designer, and every

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Speaker 1: week your guide to better understanding that place where you live.

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Speaker 1: It is a Saturday morning here in southern California. The

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Speaker 1: sun is coming up. I don't think it's fully up yet,

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Speaker 1: but the sky is bright. It's a little on the

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Speaker 1: cool side, which I'm glad. It was a shock. We

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Speaker 1: were in Bozeman, Montana, like I was saying earlier in

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Speaker 1: the show, this last week. High's in the thirties, low's

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Speaker 1: in the upper teens, and then came home to eighty

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Speaker 1: four degrees. Yeah, so I'm glad it's cooling back off again.

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Speaker 1: I am a Southern California boy. I'm not complaining about that.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that was that was a big shift.

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Speaker 1: Fifty degrees. That's a big swing right there, big swing.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, glad that you're with us this morning. It's

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Speaker 1: an all call Saturday morning. The number to reach me

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Speaker 1: eight three three two. Ask Dean eight three to three.

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Speaker 1: The numeral two, ask Dean, and like every Saturday morning

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Speaker 1: are all call show. You get to set the agenda.

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Speaker 1: Whatever is going on with your home. Let's talk about it,

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Speaker 1: all right. I'm going to go back to the phones.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to talk to Dan. Hey Dan, Welcome.

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Speaker 2: Home by Hey Dean. I have this beautiful old hardwood

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Speaker 2: with brass trim level. It's all that the level bubbles

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Speaker 2: are plastered in. I don't know is there a company

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Speaker 2: that could restore it to new It's still one bubbles

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Speaker 2: still works, but there's like five in it and the

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Speaker 2: rest of them, don't you know. Obviously, most levels you

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Speaker 2: get you just throw them away when they don't work.

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Speaker 2: But this thing is beautiful. It's called an American. That

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Speaker 2: is the name brand. It doesn't exist anymore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I you know what I am always hesitant

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Speaker 1: to say, just because of the nature of my business

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Speaker 1: and where I've come from in the world of ultra

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Speaker 1: custom everything. I'm hesitant to say that there isn't a

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Speaker 1: company out there that would repair that for you. But

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Speaker 1: my guess is that no, I don't think there are

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Speaker 1: companies who make it their business to repair masonry levels.

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Speaker 1: That's what you got there by the way and all

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Speaker 1: wood level is what we call a masonry level, and

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Speaker 1: they are beautiful. They can be just gorgeous brass stripping

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Speaker 1: down the corners, right, oh yeah, beautiful, beautiful hardwood running

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Speaker 1: through it. And the other trick is, yeah, a masonry

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Speaker 1: level typically the bubbles are are you know, cemented in

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Speaker 1: with putty on the edges and uh. And underneath that

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Speaker 1: putty is undoubtedly a metal ring or a seal, a

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Speaker 1: gasket of sorts that's holding the glass in place for

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Speaker 1: the final chamber there. Uh and then so on. I

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Speaker 1: will tell you this. I don't know. Here's the thing

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Speaker 1: you're saying that the bubbles aren't working on you know,

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Speaker 1: four out of five of the bubbles aren't working. But

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Speaker 1: when the when the bubbles are working, I do know.

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Speaker 1: And it's a long shop. You should check it out.

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Speaker 1: Go online and uh search for masonry level repair kits.

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Speaker 1: I know there are kits out there. Smith Level. Smith

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Speaker 1: Smith is a great masonry level company, a great level company.

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Speaker 1: I know that they actually make and sell a repair

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Speaker 1: kit for their levels, okay, including the oval glass and

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Speaker 1: the putty, uh and the rings. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: it's going to fit exactly, but the glass is actually

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Speaker 1: the easiest part. I mean, if you're absolutely in love

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Speaker 1: with this level, you can go to a glass shop

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Speaker 1: and have them cut new glass for you.

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Speaker 2: For those What it is is it's it's I said,

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Speaker 2: it's gorgeous. You can't, I can't, you know, American, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't exist. How do you get it? To make sure

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Speaker 2: that it's level? Once you try to get the glass in,

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well here's the age old test. You flip it.

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Speaker 1: You flip it end to end. Okay, I got a level.

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Speaker 1: When it's breeding level, you get it laid out on

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Speaker 1: what you hope is a very level surface. Test a

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Speaker 1: surface with another functional level. Okay, make sure that the

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Speaker 1: level surface that you're on is in fact level. Test

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Speaker 1: that with another level, and then then align the bulb

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Speaker 1: so so that you're getting a you know, a middle bubble.

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Speaker 1: And then to double check it once it's fixed in

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Speaker 1: place there temporarily, you flip the level over end to end,

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Speaker 1: and if it still reads level in the opposite direction,

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Speaker 1: then you know that the bubble is aligned properly with

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Speaker 2: All right, good advice. Hey have you seen that dual

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Speaker 2: scraper cutting tools? You can cut with it like an

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Speaker 2: exact non exact a knife, but I can't even think

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Speaker 2: use to cut drywall. It's a dual. It's very mechanical

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Speaker 2: and it cuts, but it also you can use it

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Speaker 1: I think I know what you're talking about. I think

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Speaker 1: I think I know what you're talking about. I'm not

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Speaker 1: a drywall or so I'm not up on all of

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But you know, I've said why, why,

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Speaker 1: what's up?

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to know what your opinion. It looks

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Speaker 2: like it's very mechanical because the blade will slip around,

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Speaker 2: right right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I've seen drywallers use those before. Oh Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I'm not the guy to ask whether that's the best

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Speaker 1: you know, literally, when I have a question like that,

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Speaker 1: I would just call my drywaller and say, hey, is

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Speaker 1: this good? Should I be using this? Or is there

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Speaker 1: a better way to go? I love stepping up to

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Speaker 1: the old masters and asking guys who really know what

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Speaker 1: they're doing with a specific discipline, a building discipline, or

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Speaker 1: a craft discipline, what are the tools that I should

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Speaker 1: be using for this or should I not be using

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Speaker 1: the tool that you're using because that one takes, you know,

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Speaker 1: ten thousand hours of mastery. Should I be using the

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Speaker 1: baby kindergarten version of that tool to get it safe?

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Speaker 1: And so you never know which answer they're going to

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Speaker 1: give you, and but I it from them in one

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Speaker 1: way or the other. Dan, thanks for your call, Bud.

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Speaker 1: Good luck on your level. Dan is very connected to

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Speaker 1: this level. I mean he I appreciate that. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: a guy who appreciates a good old tool. And so

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Speaker 1: as long as as long as you're willing to put

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Speaker 1: the effort in, you know, you can probably get it fixed.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think there's a company out there that

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Speaker 1: does it as a specialty. I can't imagine them staying

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Speaker 1: in business because the need is just not that great.

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Speaker 1: All right, my friends, when we return more of your

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Speaker 1: calls your home. Dean Sharp the house whisper, Dean Sharp,

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Speaker 1: the house whisper. Good morning, my friend, thanks for joining

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Speaker 1: us on the program. We are spending today enjoying some

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Speaker 1: of the melodious tunes from our friend Dick van Dyke,

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Speaker 1: who friend to all right, who is celebrating his one

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Speaker 1: hundredth birthday today. Happy birthday, Dick. All right, it is

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Speaker 1: an all call Saturday morning. I'm so glad that you

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Speaker 1: are here. You are setting the agenda of what we're

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Speaker 1: talking about today, as always the case with the calls

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Speaker 1: here on the program. So let us, without further ado,

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Speaker 1: go back to the phones. I want to talk to Richard. Hey, Richard,

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Speaker 1: welcome home.

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Speaker 3: Hey Dean, how's it going.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I've got a design question for you.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I'm an alumni of the Dean Sharp

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Speaker 3: School of Design, and this is something you've talked about

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Speaker 3: a lot base boards in your seven percent rule. Yeah, However,

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Speaker 3: the only thing I've the only thing I've never heard

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Speaker 3: you talk about is and I've got a situation right

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Speaker 3: now where I've got a vaulted master, a normal eight

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Speaker 3: foot hall and bathrooms, and then I've got a vaulted

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Speaker 3: living room, dining room, and kitchen. So we've got eight

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Speaker 3: foot ceilings and fifteen foot What are you do in

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Speaker 3: that case?

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Speaker 1: Ah, that's a really good question. You're right. I may

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Speaker 1: not have ever addressed the differentials before, so all right,

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Speaker 1: so just set some context for what Richard's talking about

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Speaker 1: here at the Dean Sharp School of design. We are

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Speaker 1: strong proponents of tall base boards for your home. It's

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Speaker 1: just one of those things that the vast majority of

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Speaker 1: homes have baseboards that are puny and too small, too

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Speaker 1: small for the room. What is too small? Well, we've

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Speaker 1: talked about this, the seven percent rule. Now, this is

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Speaker 1: a general I even hesitate to call it a rule.

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Speaker 1: It's a general guideline. But it works that the height

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Speaker 1: of a base board in a room can easily be,

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Speaker 1: and probably should be, a minimum of seven percent of

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Speaker 1: the height of the wall itself. Now what does that mean.

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Speaker 1: It means that for an eight foot ceiling, okay, the

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Speaker 1: lowest of standard home ceilings, for an eight foot ceiling,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about a baseboard that is pushing seven inches

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Speaker 1: in height. And some of you are gasping, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that it's incredibly tall. No, it's not. It's not. Believe me,

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Speaker 1: my little cottage that I live in the vast majority

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Speaker 1: your answer, Richard, most of my home still eight foot ceiling.

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Speaker 1: I have no choice because of attic requirements up above

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Speaker 1: and where the HVAC unit is in the attic and

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Speaker 1: all of that stuff. I don't have the option of

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Speaker 1: vaulting most of the bedrooms and the hallway area in

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Speaker 1: my little house because my roof pitch is not too

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Speaker 1: heavy and so I just don't have that option. So bedrooms, hallway,

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Speaker 1: bathrooms all eight foot ceiling. Okay. The house was built

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Speaker 1: back in fifty eight, and so we got eight foot ceilings,

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Speaker 1: and we have seven and a half inch tall base

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Speaker 1: I love your baseboards. I love the way this room feels.

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Speaker 1: So yes, tall baseboards. Now the question is do we

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Speaker 1: upscale those base boards as we get into even higher areas,

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Speaker 1: And only in the most extreme circumstances do I actually

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Speaker 1: switch up Richard, Because I personally find a nice seven

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Speaker 1: don't have to scale down when you go into a

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Speaker 1: smaller Obviously, there's no reason to scale down and scaling up.

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Speaker 1: And this is why I say the seven percent rule

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Speaker 1: has its limits, okay, because, for instance, if we were

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Speaker 1: to apply it to a let's say we've got a

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Speaker 1: mansion that has a ballroom with thirty foot ceilings in it, Okay,

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Speaker 1: does that mean that we put in a twenty four

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Speaker 1: inch tall base board. No, we do not, because that

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Speaker 1: starts looking really ridiculous. It starts making you feel like

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Speaker 1: you're walking in and you're you've been you know, shrunk

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Speaker 1: down with the honey, I shrunk the kids things when

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Speaker 1: you're walking next to a two foot base So, just

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Speaker 1: so you know, the biggest base board that I have

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Speaker 1: ever myself designed or specked for any size ceiling whatsoever,

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Speaker 1: is just a little over eleven inches. Okay. So, and

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Speaker 1: the smallest base board that I prefer to put in

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Speaker 1: to any room whatsoever is seven. So the range of

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Speaker 1: baseboard that I work in within is seven to eleven

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Speaker 1: seven eleven, and that's it. But generally speaking, Oh and

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Speaker 1: back to my house. So the living room area of

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Speaker 1: my house, which used to be the garage, that is

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Speaker 1: an area that I was able to vault. The living

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Speaker 1: was able to vault that. So now I've got like

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Speaker 1: a total height of a twelve foot ceiling. But the

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Speaker 1: important thing is this, it's not the center vault of

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Speaker 3: Okay, excellent if you have the time, do you what's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like five eighths. Five eighths is usually my

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Speaker 1: the it's not the floor. I'm worried about. The thickness

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Speaker 2: Okay, great, all.

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Speaker 4: I have concrete panel siding at standing around black framed windows.

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Speaker 4: But most of the material of the house is palmentto

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Speaker 4: But the windows are a black framed windows, and we

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Speaker 4: just wondering what's a good color to paint right now?

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Speaker 4: It's trying, but I was trying to get an idea

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Speaker 1: Oh of course you asked me the sight unseen paint

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Speaker 4: Think about some form. I was thinking of some form

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Speaker 1: You know what. I am so glad you said that,

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Palmetto Riviera stone has got it.

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Speaker 1: It's got browns in it. It also has a good amount

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Speaker 1: brown would just make it all muddy. It doesn't allow

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Speaker 1: In terms of materials, it's cyan, magenta, and yellow, okay,

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Speaker 1: The Palmetto Riviera brick has got a lot of black

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Speaker 1: Just but do the color trick, okay, because again, there

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Speaker 4: It's a I think that makes no difference whether it's

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Speaker 1: A white window frame. Yeah, I would say either way.

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Speaker 1: But but you've got black window frames. You've got black

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Speaker 1: You know, that's always my my my qualification. It sounds

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Speaker 1: dark my first priority, see if you can pull that off,

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Speaker 1: because I think it would be gorgeous. Henderson, I got

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Speaker 1: to go. Thank you for your call. My friend Henderson's

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Speaker 1: He's got his finger on the pulse of it. All right,

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Speaker 1: when we return more of your calls. You are home

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Speaker 5: under the slab in the utility room exud me. I

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Speaker 5: now have a choice. It's now being dried with professional equipment.

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Speaker 5: My choice is to repipe the whole house with pex

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Speaker 5: a or reroute the pipe, and I don't know what

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Speaker 5: to do. I am near the ocean and I hear

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Speaker 5: that there are problems with pipes near the ocean. So

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Speaker 5: what do you suggesting?

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, so oh it's a pinhole. And I am

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Speaker 1: never going to be the one who's telling somebody that,

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Speaker 1: you know, they have to go to an extreme measure

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Speaker 1: just because one leak showed up in this situation. However,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give you my best advice because that's

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Speaker 1: what you're asking for. If I were in your shoes,

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Speaker 1: I would be repiping or planning on repiping the whole

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Speaker 1: house in impex a. And here's the reason why the

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Speaker 1: house was You said the house was built in eighty eight. Correct, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so the house is built in eighty eight, it has

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Speaker 1: it has copper piping in it. And that copper piping

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Speaker 1: for the first floor. I didn't ask whether it's two

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Speaker 1: stories or not, it doesn't matter. But for the first

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Speaker 1: floor at least, the copper piping is running underneath the slab.

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Speaker 1: And you've got a pinhole leak, and that piping is

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Speaker 1: now thirty eight years old. By my calculations, we have

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Speaker 1: I've learned Back in the eighties, we were still under

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Speaker 1: the belief that copper was forever and it's not. Now.

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Speaker 1: The plumbing industry will tell you that copper piping has

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Speaker 1: a lifespan of about twenty to twenty five years. Yours

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Speaker 1: is thirty eight, okay. And the fact that it's a

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Speaker 1: pin hole leak is the most indicative part of this

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Speaker 1: whole thing by way of my diagnosis choice. Because if

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Speaker 1: this was a trauma leak in other words, there was

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Speaker 1: an earthquake and the slab shifted and it broke the

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Speaker 1: pipe open, or if this was a leak coming out

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Speaker 1: of a fitting, meaning where the two pipes come together,

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Speaker 1: in other words, a solder had failed or something like that,

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Speaker 1: that would be a different story because that would be

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Speaker 1: kind of a mechanical failure in terms of the pipe

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Speaker 1: or trauma to the pipe that caused the leak. But

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Speaker 1: a pin hole leak in copper, a pinhole is simply

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Speaker 1: an indication that became because of mineralization in the water

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Speaker 1: and the age of the pipe. Those pipes are wearing

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Speaker 1: thin from the inside out, okay. And because they're wearing thin,

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Speaker 1: a pinhole leak is literally where the wall of the

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Speaker 1: pipe has gotten so thin that now water is oozing

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Speaker 1: out of the wall of the pipe. And where there

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Speaker 1: is one pinhole leak, there will be another, and another,

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Speaker 1: and another and another. And the last thing in the

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Speaker 1: world that I would want to tell you is to

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Speaker 1: dig up that pipe, open up the concrete, pull back

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Speaker 1: the flooring, repair that one leak, which you could do

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Speaker 1: and go through all of that hassle, only to have

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Speaker 1: in the next year or so another pinhole leak, threatening

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Speaker 1: another floor in the house, and doing it all over again.

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Speaker 1: And so, in my opinion, once we see a pinhole

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Speaker 1: leak occur in copper piping that is way older than

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Speaker 1: its life span indicated, then I think it's time to

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Speaker 1: just reroute all the plumbing out of the slab and

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Speaker 1: go overhead with pecks and you will never have to

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Speaker 1: worry about that again. It's more cost upfront to repipe

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Speaker 1: the house now, for sure, but if you do that,

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Speaker 1: you'll never have to worry about the next failure. And

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Speaker 1: there will be, mark my words, there will be a

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Speaker 1: next failure of that underground piping.

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Speaker 5: Floors drying out professionally, Do I have to tear up

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Speaker 5: my hardwood floors and the walls and.

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Speaker 1: Everything No, that's the good thing about it is that

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Speaker 1: we're not going to remove the copper that's down there.

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Speaker 1: We don't have to mess with that. If we're going

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Speaker 1: to repipe the house, we don't remove any of it.

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Speaker 1: We simply abandon it. We simply abandon it. Now, there

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Speaker 1: may be some dry wall work to be done near

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Speaker 1: the tops of certain rooms when they're repiping and sending

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Speaker 1: stuff in through the top, a little bit of drywall patching,

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Speaker 1: but there won't be much there really really won't be much.

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Speaker 1: And a good repipe company is going to patch that

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Speaker 1: drywall for you. But you don't have to touch the floors.

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Speaker 1: That's the expensive stuff. Drywall is pretty cheap to patch up.

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Speaker 1: Floor removal that's a mess. And so if your floor

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Speaker 1: has not been damaged by it, and it's being dried

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Speaker 1: out and you don't see any hardwood reacting or anything

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Speaker 1: like that, then no, we don't have to do that.

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Speaker 1: And that's why again I'm saying the best thing we

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Speaker 1: can do is to go overhead. Now, we're just going

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Speaker 1: to abandon those lines. We're not gonna tear them out,

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Speaker 1: We're just gonna leave them there. They're gonna do nothing,

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Speaker 1: and they won't cause anybody any more problems. Joyce, thank

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Speaker 1: you for your call. We are pushed against it. We're

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Speaker 1: out of time. Hey, here's a little primer on tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: we're preempted in the LA area by the Chargers game.

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