1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: I was talking to a moment ago about the sweet 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: sixteen in the MINS tournament. 3 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 2: Are we just for a moment, we'll get back to 4 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 2: the Broncos. 5 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: Are we at a point now where because of the 6 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: nil era, the Cinderellas or are kind of done? And 7 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: then maybe, in my opinion, my pain, it's actually better 8 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: for the sport. We're done with cinderellas. Why is that 9 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: better for the sport? It's better for the sport because 10 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: you have the higher level basketball, especially at the final 11 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: games being played like this. 12 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 3: You imagine high point was a low point for you? 13 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 2: High point was how'd you like that? It was Wisconsin. 14 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: It's interesting in the first like when you're a round 15 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: of sixty four, it's interesting round to thirty two. 16 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 2: I could kind of get behind it. But by the 17 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: time we get to the sweet sixteen, the best. 18 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 3: Teams, I mean, there have been years in the past 19 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 3: that we've seen, you know, a team had that magical 20 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 3: run and get to the either Sweet sixteen or Elite eight. 21 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: Rarely do they go further than that. 22 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 3: And I don't know that the NA I mean, I'm 23 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 3: not sure that we've seen some of the some of 24 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 3: the mid majors now just not being able to ever. 25 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: You know, there were some competitive games. I mean High 26 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 3: Point beat Wisconsin. Yes, what was the other one? Uh, 27 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 3: I can't Oh yeah yeah VCU North Carolina. I mean 28 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 3: I would, I would call that a major upset. Might 29 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 3: cost the North Carolina coach his job. 30 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 2: In Iowa, it was that Iowa beating Florida. Right, that's 31 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: nine beaten one. 32 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 3: It's pretty I mean, I will really i was always 33 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 3: had a good basketball program. But but you don't think 34 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: of them as like, oh man, they're gonna be a 35 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: Final four contender this year and probably two out of 36 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 3: the next five. You just don't think of Iowa about Nebraska. 37 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 3: Nebraska had never won a tournament game, a final, a 38 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: Sweet sixty four field of sixty four tournament game. They've 39 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: won two two yep. And I mean I was calling games, 40 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: I was doing freelance work, and I had college football 41 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 3: games to do on TV in the fall, and then 42 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 3: I had college basketball games on TV every weekend to do. 43 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 3: And Fred Hoiberg, who's now the head coach at Nebraska, 44 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 3: was a was a hell of a good player at 45 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: Iowa State. So I got to know him a little 46 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 3: bit and what he's done with that program. I mean, 47 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 3: that's a remarkable run. So I don't know if you 48 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 3: would say the NIL helped Nebraska or certainly hadn't hurt 49 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 3: in Nebraska. 50 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: So I think it's a little bit overplayed. 51 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 4: I think when there's a when there's a Cinderella story, 52 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 4: it is good for the tournament because I mean, ultimately 53 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 4: it is going to be a number one seed, number 54 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 4: two seed who ends up winning it probably, but to 55 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 4: have someone at the maybe in the lead eight, in 56 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 4: the sweet sixteen who shouldn't be there, so more of. 57 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: A hey, it's a nice run, it's a good story, 58 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: it's an absolutely good it's going to have sort of 59 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: a ceiling. But it does seem like and maybe, right, Dave, 60 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: maybe it seems like in the NIL era where you're 61 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: going to have these teams, the conglomerates which are going 62 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: to be the usually the major schools, right, And part 63 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: of the reason why we tend to have the cinderelative 64 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: is because, well, it's a team that's been together for 65 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: a while, but that doesn't exist anymore, Like nobody sticks 66 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: around for any length of time. So that's why I 67 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: wonder if we're kind of passive. But maybe I'm using 68 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: just the last couple of years as an example, which 69 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: is is short sighted, but I just I. 70 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: Know this, no matter if it's helped or her or whatever, 71 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 3: love this time of year and watching. 72 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: I mean I watched. 73 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: The entire game, or bits and pieces of every single game. 74 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: Was out of town with a group of friends, and 75 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: it was like. 76 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 4: Basketball haven You watched every game part either the entire 77 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 4: game or parts of an entire game. 78 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: Impressive. 79 00:03:55,240 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 3: I don't know, not sure. I'm not sure. We were 80 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: kind of a captive audience, but it was. It was 81 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: cool for it. 82 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 4: Do you think that there'll be a time, you know, 83 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 4: I know, we're kind of in the infancy of the 84 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 4: nil world. The NFL they implemented a salary cap to 85 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 4: kind of create some parody. Do you think there will 86 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 4: ever be like a salary cap to to college teams? 87 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: Yes? I do, And I think that was kind of 88 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: even the playing field, wouldn't it. 89 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you've there are people working on trying to 90 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 3: find a way to rain this thing in a little bit. 91 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: I think as we speak, who's in charge of that. 92 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: I don't that I don't know. I don't think it's 93 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 3: the n C double A, right, But maybe maybe a 94 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: group of coaches. I mean Nick Saban spoke. I think 95 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 3: it was front of Congress, was it not. It was 96 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 3: a propressional hearing of some sort talking about and there 97 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 3: were other there were other coaches that were there talking 98 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 3: about the importance of, you know, figuring out this system 99 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 3: to make it, to make it a little more equitable. 100 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: It just feels like for the tournament's sake, and maybe 101 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: maybe they don't care. But this sweet sixteen, some of 102 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: these matchups are like incredible, like they're gonna be so 103 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: much fun to watch. And I think about it in 104 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: terms of if these were lopsided, if this was well 105 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: we just you know, the David and Goliath stuff. 106 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 2: I don't know. 107 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: I I certainly enjoyed the storylines in the past, but 108 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: I find myself maybe as a viewer now where I 109 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: just want the best teams to play and that that's 110 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: more interesting to you. 111 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 3: I mean you pretty much got that though. Yeah, coming 112 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 3: up this Thursday, Thursday. 113 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: I mean I just I listened about earlier, but I 114 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: mean this this Thursday, we're talking about Uh, let's see here. 115 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: We got Texas Purdue, which is again it's eleven. But 116 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: Texas was in a playing game, Yes, a playing game. 117 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: But then I went Nebraska. Those two teams, I mean you're. 118 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: Talking about four, yeah, but I mean that's one and 119 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: a half point uh swing there. Arizona Arkansas is going 120 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: to be great. Houston, Illinois, it's gonna be great. That's 121 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: just Thursday. And then of course you know Friday, Saint 122 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: John's Duke is a monster. Michigan, Alabama, Yukon, Michigan State, 123 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: and Iowa State Tennessee. 124 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: Love it. It's great, love it. It's great, great time 125 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 2: of year. I understand. I watched. I watched as much 126 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: as could this weekend. 127 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: Of course, you know, being at Disney, it was tough 128 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: for the first for the round of sixty four, I 129 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: had to kind of catch the highlights, but watched everything 130 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: I cut on Saturday Sunday though. 131 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: It was a blast. It was a blast that by. 132 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: The way, very quickly on the on the Iowa win 133 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: over Florida. I don't know if you saw it the 134 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: same way I did it. But as soon as they 135 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: inbounded the ball and the he came across the front 136 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: and they were able to catch him in stride. 137 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 2: I had the moment I was like, they just lost 138 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 2: this game. 139 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: Like to be able to get him in stride running 140 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: down court, and he found the vallet guy there behind 141 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: the beyond the arc. It's like Florida's literally just lost 142 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: this game. 143 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: Right when they inbounted the way they get it, I didn't. 144 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 3: It's always easy to sit back and second guess after 145 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 3: the fact, but I'm doing it now. I didn't understand 146 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: the idea of full court. Yeah, that that kind of 147 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 3: pressure that far from the basket, right they how much 148 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 3: time did they have? 149 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: It's like eight seconds seconds, And then you know you're behind. 150 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 3: When they inbounds the ball. The defender is in a 151 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: trail position. Well now all of a sudden and he's 152 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: running for all the worse. But so's the guy with 153 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: the ball. So and that's their best score yep. So 154 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 3: the defender who had the wing in the corner is 155 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 3: obligated to step up. It's a two point lead, You're 156 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: obligated to step up and try to stop the ball. 157 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 3: And when you do. The thing that struck me also 158 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: about that play was a bounced pass. How many times 159 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 3: do you see a bounce pass? That's old school, but 160 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: it was perfect, and I mean, I would deserve to 161 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 3: win that game. And I had picked Florida. I thought 162 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 3: Florida had enough to find their way into the into 163 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 3: the finals. 164 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: But I would play great, who's you picked to win 165 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: at all? 166 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 3: I'm probably going shock Arizona to me, Arizona or Michigan 167 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: looked like the best teams. I think everybody else has 168 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 3: kind of jumbled up and vuying first spot. 169 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: I have Arizona too, Let's let me take Michigan. Then 170 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: I got Arizona too. There you go. 171 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 4: You know they eight out of the last nine champions 172 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 4: haven't made the Sweet sixteen. 173 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: How about that? Isn't that there's some parody for you? Yeah? 174 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: That's incredible? Yeah? Have you had Sydney? Yeah, I've had Benjamin. 175 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: I've had Kangaroo. 176 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 4: We just called it rue. It's a little gamey, little tough. 177 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 4: I've had Tim Tams and Milo. Those are delectables that 178 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 4: you find in Australia. 179 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 2: Okay are we allowed to say that on the air? 180 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 2: Tim Tams, Yes, it's a it's a snack. Okay, good, 181 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: you think it was right? Continue? Milo is like a 182 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: you who type of chocolate drink. 183 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: Okay, it's popular because you have family down down under? 184 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: Your family? What's that? 185 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 3: I just wondered what you thought he was talking about. Yeah, well, 186 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 3: what did you think, Timm? 187 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 2: What was it onto your mind? Ryan? 188 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: Well, I just you know, I want to be careful 189 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: on on certain things because you just kind of us. 190 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: A closet dirty boy. Yeah. 191 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 3: I might get you a T shirt flannel, but I 192 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 3: might get your T shirt. I'm a closet dirty boy. 193 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 194 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: I was getting Google out of your own expense. So 195 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: well that that's that's good to know. That's good information. 196 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know there is an ausy player on the Broncoss. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. 197 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: Have you ever had vegemite, Dave? 198 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 3: I don't know that I've had veggie mite. I don't know. 199 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 4: It's like a spread you put it on toast, but 200 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 4: it's not it's not like jam. It's more of a 201 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 4: like a veggie earthy taste. 202 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 2: You're really doing it like mud, you know. Just I 203 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: was just spread mud on what it was. 204 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 3: But I'm pretty sure that's what it was. You know, 205 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 3: one breakfast of a veggie might toast. 206 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, as an eight year old, like 207 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 2: spreading mud on everything, like, I mean, I really don't remember. 208 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 4: I don't think I have no, No, I don't know 209 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 4: what's in it? But it's it's kind of a staple, 210 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 4: you know, you're vegetables. Yeah, yeah, yep, yep, what one 211 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 4: would surmise. 212 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: I'm guessing vegetables. It's just a meat spread. It's called vegemite. Yeah. 213 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: You know, I haven't had a chance to ask Jeremy 214 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: Crosshaw or punter if he's a big vegemite guy. 215 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 4: Well did you hear he was having his struggles early 216 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 4: in the season and and then they were like, you 217 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 4: know what, we got to put vegemite at the training table. 218 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's when he started punting. Well, you guys don't 219 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 2: know that. I'm playing along, nodding to get Ryan to 220 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 2: you like my son when I say some other ridiculedly 221 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: He's like, really is that true? No, it's not. 222 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: But I know you guys, and I mean you athletes, 223 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: you have all sorts of superstitions and chips on your 224 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: shoulder and things that you need to you know, you 225 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: need the yellow gummy bears form musicians. 226 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't, you can't. You know, you can't use 227 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: the yellow ones before you perform. That's out, definitely the greens. Yeah, 228 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: so if you get a yellow one, you just like 229 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: you're not going to perform. You just chuck the bull 230 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 2: at somebody's head. You're not going to perform well at all. Nope, 231 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: is it the yellow dye? 232 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 5: Is that? 233 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 2: What is exactly? Not exactly? 234 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: So what is it about the green ones that make 235 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: the performance better? 236 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: It's what's in the green? Oh? Is that right? Yes? 237 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: It is? Okay? Yeah, what's in the green? Yep? Have 238 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: you experienced it? You put through your lower lip? Yes, 239 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: I have. 240 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 3: If you were trying to with your upper teeth, you're 241 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 3: trying to scrape the skin off the first layer of 242 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 3: epidermis off your lower lip. Think about how fast you 243 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 3: would do it. You have twelve seconds to do it 244 00:11:55,559 --> 00:12:01,479 Speaker 3: and go. That's what the green ones do. It's delightful, 245 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 3: it is. Yeah, what was it? 246 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 6: What? 247 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah, that's good to know. Man. You guys, Hey, 248 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 2: you guys. 249 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: Have a better track record of performance than I do. 250 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 6: Yeah. 251 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. When we come back. Speaking of athletes, 252 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: we're gonna check him with beIN de Nucci. 253 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: Uh, he's has a lot of big opinions when it 254 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: comes to what Davi's webb is gonna be able to 255 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: do for bo Nicks. 256 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: We'll get to that next. 257 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: Bring on, NFL quarterback pick a ball connoisseur Ben de 258 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: Nucci joining us on the program. 259 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 2: Ben, my friend, it's good to catch up with you. 260 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: How are you. 261 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 5: Let's go. 262 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 6: Likewise, I appreciate you throwing the pickleball reference in there, 263 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 6: considering that's what I was doing this morning from seven 264 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 6: to nine am, trying to kick up on some seven 265 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,479 Speaker 6: year old butt who is successful sometimes and not successful 266 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 6: some others. 267 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 5: So good, good morning. 268 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 3: So you you you actually had a seven year old 269 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 3: win a pick a ball game against you today? 270 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 5: Uh, not necessarily win against me, but not win with me, 271 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, he wasn't. 272 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: The weak link. 273 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot a lot of good players. 274 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys. 275 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 5: Do you guys play pickleball either, you guys. 276 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: I've never I've never tried it. 277 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 4: I've played a couple of times. It's fun, pretty sore afterwards. Actually, yeah. 278 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 5: It's a mix of tennis and ping pong. It's interesting 279 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 5: what sore your forum? 280 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 4: Just everything, Because if you're not good at it, you 281 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 4: don't know the angle, so you're running. You're running, Yeah, 282 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 4: a lot of stopping and starting, and you're not any good, 283 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 4: so you're chasing it around a lot. 284 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: The guys were really good. They don't move, They just 285 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: kind of crazy. Yeah, they still was your time was 286 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 2: your time in the NFL. Does that help you at pickleball? 287 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 6: I would think so, at least general athleticism. I'd like 288 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 6: to think I'm a better athlete than the guys I'm 289 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 6: stepping on the court with every morning. It's hard to really. 290 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 5: You can't judge the book. 291 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 6: By its cover when you're playing pickle ball. So the 292 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 6: fun thing is you don't really know how good or bad. 293 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 5: Somebody is until you until you see them play. 294 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 6: So every morning when there's you know, new guys that 295 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 6: show up, it's like a new adventure waiting to happen. 296 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 6: But generally, I would like to think my athleticism over 297 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 6: the last couple of years would would give me some 298 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 6: benefits in pickleball. 299 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 2: I think you're right. Yeah, absolutely think you're right. So 300 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 2: what do we think? 301 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 3: We were sitting here obviously before you came on the show, 302 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 3: we've been talking about what the what the Broncos offense 303 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 3: may look like this year, and in fact, will it 304 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 3: actually look different for people that they go to the 305 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 3: game Broncos fans? 306 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 2: Would it look different in your mind this year? 307 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 3: Or will it be sort of what Shawn's running the past, 308 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 3: just maybe called differently. 309 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 5: I think that's I think that's hard to say. I mean, 310 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 5: I would like to say that it's going to. 311 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 6: Look different, it's going to feel different, just because this 312 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 6: is the first time this Seawn has given up real 313 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 6: play calling duties in his career. But at the same time, 314 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 6: that would lend me to lean the other way as well, 315 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 6: that hey, Shawn still might have an imprint on this thing. 316 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 6: It might just be Davis that's, you know, the one 317 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 6: that's calling the play the bow, not Shawn's voice in 318 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 6: Bo's ear. 319 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 5: So I think regardless, you're going to see the tempo 320 00:14:58,560 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 5: pick up. 321 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 6: Guys are gonna get out of the hudd faster. 322 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 5: It's gonna it's gonna look a little bit different. But 323 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 5: I think it'll be interesting to see how. 324 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 6: Sean kind of hands off hands on what approach. 325 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 5: He decides to use with with Davis being this is 326 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 5: his first stint doing this as well. 327 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 4: Ben, what is it about Davis Web and not just 328 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 4: Davis Web, but but former backups who transition to coaching, 329 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 4: who can connect with players, who articulate it well, who 330 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 4: get you know, early head coaching looks and offensive coordator. 331 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 4: What is it about being able to be in those 332 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 4: quarterback rooms as a player and observed, maybe not play 333 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 4: as much, but allow you to transition to being a coach. 334 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, I just, for one, I think it's awfully refreshing 335 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 6: having somebody who. 336 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 5: Has played the position that I've played, right, not even. 337 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 6: Me, just whoever, But Davis just happened to be a 338 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 6: quarterback the last couple of years. 339 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 5: Was in the same seat that I was in. 340 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 6: It's almost had like having another player in the room, 341 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 6: not necessarily a coach. So I think, at least for 342 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 6: the quarterback position, that is that is that's that's something that. 343 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: A lot of teams have. 344 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 6: There's not a lot of guys, especially at the quarterback position, 345 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 6: that go right from playing into coaching. 346 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 2: Being able to. 347 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 6: Relate to guys and connect to guys is a big 348 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 6: part of it. And so Davis's job is going to. 349 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 5: Look different now. 350 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 6: He was mainly just working with the quarterbacks before. I 351 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 6: would assume now he's going to be going from room 352 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 6: to room. 353 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 5: Logan Kilbour will be the. 354 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 6: One that's probably installing the stuff to the quarterbacks, and 355 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 6: Davis is going to be going room to room saying, hey, guys, 356 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 6: here's what I'm thinking on this that you know, et cetera. 357 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 5: I think Davis is. 358 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 2: Ready for it. 359 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 6: His college experience, his NFL experiences. He's been around a 360 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 6: lot of coaches, a lot of offenses, the Homes, Baker, Mayfield, Kingsbury, Sonny, Dike, Stable, 361 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 6: I mean, you name it. He's kind of been around 362 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 6: the tree, Sean Payton the last couple of years. So 363 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 6: I think I think there's a reason Sean. 364 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 5: Gave it up now and gave it up to Davis. 365 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 6: I don't think he would have done this if it 366 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 6: wasn't in the best interest of the team. And I 367 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 6: think a lot of people, myself included, are are really 368 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 6: excited for Davis in this opportunity. It's been a couple 369 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 6: of years and he's kind of risen the ranks really fast. 370 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 6: And how this opportunity a couple of years out of 371 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 6: being done playing as it. 372 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 2: Is huge for him. 373 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: Vin Denuci joining us here, what was that experience like 374 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: for you being added to this team in the midst 375 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: of a playoff run. I know was unfortunately just the 376 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: one game, and of course you didn't get a chance 377 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: to necessarily suit for what was that experience, like that 378 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: entire week of being around the team and just what 379 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: was the vibe in the building? 380 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,479 Speaker 6: Yeah, extremely unique. I've been telling people this for the 381 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 6: past couple of months. This was would have technically been 382 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 6: my sixth year in the NFL that I've been removed 383 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 6: from college, and I was out for essentially twelve months. 384 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 6: I got called in a day's notice and that was 385 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 6: the furthest I've ever been in the playoffs in the 386 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 6: NFL and in my career. 387 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 5: So to be alcohol season, to be on the other 388 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 5: side of things, kind. 389 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 6: Of talking ball, watching ball, analyzing ball, and then to 390 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 6: go right back. 391 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 5: Into it was refreshing. 392 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 2: It was. 393 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 6: It was kind of a you. 394 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 5: Know, you know, a little fireback into my ass again, like, hey, 395 00:17:58,680 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 5: this is fun. 396 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 6: I'm around some familiar aims, some familiar faces. Offense was 397 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 6: all the same, so. 398 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 5: It wasn't like I had to learn a new playbook 399 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 5: in three. 400 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 6: Days, which is why I figured they would lean on 401 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 6: signing me and not somebody else. If they were trying to, 402 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 6: you know, get somebody ready to go in four four 403 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 6: days in a backup quarterback, they wouldn't would they wouldn't 404 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 6: bring somebody in who didn't know the playbook, so really 405 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 6: cool experience for me. I mean, they could have called 406 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 6: a lot. 407 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 5: Of guys, so for them to call me that was 408 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 5: reassuring that, hey, I must have done something right. 409 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 6: My time there in twenty twenty three left the left 410 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 6: the right impression and got the got to try to 411 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 6: help them win it win a super Bowl. It was 412 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 6: a crazy game, crazy experience. I've come to the conclusion 413 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 6: that I think the Super Bowl didn't want me anywhere 414 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 6: near it, considering I didn't. 415 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 5: Put any of the work in this, and so unfortunately 416 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 5: we couldn't we couldn't kind up come up on the 417 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 5: winning end of that one. 418 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, last question for me. 419 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 3: You mentioned you think you'll see the Broncos get out 420 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,959 Speaker 3: of the huddle a little bit quicker. You've you've been 421 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 3: around and experienced different offenses, and you've also obviously spent 422 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 3: enough time here to know this offense as well. 423 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 2: It's it's a word, the. 424 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 3: Offense, and I'm just wondering if there's a way and 425 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 3: if you think it might be important to the coaches 426 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 3: there to try to shorten some of the verbiage. It 427 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 3: would seemingly make it easier to get in to the 428 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 3: quarterback and then ultimately get out of the huddle quicker. 429 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 2: Oh, no doubt. 430 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 6: I've always been in favor of less is more when 431 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 6: it comes to wordage in play calls. I mean everyone's 432 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 6: kind of seen the clips of Drew Brees over the years, 433 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 6: like you know, Zemo to Floodwright, slot slash. 434 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 5: Thirty seven weeks till you know job thirty four, power X, indigo, 435 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 5: Z corner whatever it is. Right, that's a that's a 436 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 5: lot of words. You've got twenty five seconds to hear 437 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 5: a play call or call it, spit. 438 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 6: It out to the huddle, get to the line, make 439 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,719 Speaker 6: a check, make an adjustment. 440 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 5: All right, four three two. There's a lot going on. 441 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 5: So I think I think you will definitely see a 442 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 5: sense of. 443 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 6: Urgency breaking the huddle this year. I would imagine the 444 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 6: first thing Davis said to Sean was, Hey, we got 445 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 6: to drop some of these some of these words. Let's 446 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 6: create some terminology buckets of words that hey, if I 447 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 6: hear Broncos, if I hear Denver, kind of everybody on 448 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 6: the offense knows exactly what's going on. It tells you 449 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 6: the formation, it tells you the protection, it tells you 450 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 6: the play and I would imagine Sean is probably okay 451 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 6: with that. Considering the last couple of years, it's just 452 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 6: been I mean, right, everyone's seen. It's just been kind 453 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 6: of kind of slowganing out. 454 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 4: Of the huddle along the lines of that language that 455 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 4: everyone has to learn to be able to perform on Sundays. 456 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 4: You know, what fans don't see is what you're doing 457 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 4: every day in meetings, in film, out on the practice field, 458 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 4: and people don't understand the hierarchy and who's articulating it and. 459 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: Installing the plays. 460 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 4: Sean Payton is the head coach, but he's also sort 461 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 4: of the offensive coordinator. Was it Sean Payton in there 462 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 4: installing the plays every day or was that up to 463 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 4: Joe Lombardi or was that the position coaches? 464 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: How did they. 465 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 4: Break up the kind of the explanation and the teaching 466 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 4: of this offense. 467 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 6: Every team is a little bit different. When I was 468 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 6: on the count, Kellen Moore was the offensive coordinator. He 469 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 6: sat in the quarterback room every day and. 470 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 5: Installed the plays to us. In twenty twenty three, twenty 471 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 5: twenty four, and this. 472 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 6: This past season, Joe Lombardi was the offensive coordinator. Technically 473 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 6: tagged right, Sean was the one calling the plays, but 474 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 6: Davis was actually the one that was installing it to 475 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 6: the quarterback. Sean was never really in the in the 476 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 6: quarterback meetings. So that's why I don't think this is 477 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 6: going to be so so much of a jump as 478 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 6: people might think it is. Davis has basically been running 479 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 6: that room for a couple of years, so I don't 480 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 6: think this is going to be anything crazy in terms 481 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 6: of a worfload jump for him, a game plan jump 482 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 6: for him. He's been used to doing this instead of 483 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 6: you know, doing it to the quarterbacks the last couple 484 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 6: of years. Now he's just gonna have a couple more 485 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,719 Speaker 6: guys in the room that are that are listening. It's 486 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 6: gonna be the whole offense instead of instead of just 487 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 6: the quarterbacks. So I think it's good to give guys, 488 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 6: you know, some some more responsibilities. I always liked it, right, 489 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 6: I thought the quarterback. I thought the position coach should 490 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 6: be the one that was installing it to the quarterbacks, 491 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 6: at least, since that's the guy that we spent the 492 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 6: most time with and watched the tape can kind of 493 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 6: go over the game plans with. So yeah, I would 494 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 6: very much expect a seamless transition from Sean to Davis 495 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 6: all our last. 496 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 2: One for me. Ben really appreciate the time. 497 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,479 Speaker 1: So with the addition of Jalen Waddle, what does that 498 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: do for our expectations or your expectations of what Bonus 499 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: can do in year three? 500 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 6: MVP or Bus super Bowler, Bus undefeated or Bus Maybe 501 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 6: let's go, Let's go. 502 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 2: No. 503 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 6: I loved it. 504 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 2: I thought the trade. 505 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 5: Was I thought it was awesome. 506 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 6: I thought that's kind of exactly what people thought was 507 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 6: going to happen, making a splash, either at the beginning 508 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 6: of free agency trading for a guy or the draft. 509 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 6: I don't mind you up the first round pick at all. 510 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 6: There's no guarantee that if you get somebody at thirty 511 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,479 Speaker 6: they're going to turn out to what Jaylen Waddell has 512 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 6: been able to do in. 513 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 5: His short NFL career. He's young, he's twenty six, so 514 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 5: there's a lot of tread. 515 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 2: Left on the tires. 516 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 6: That's kind of the position that the Broncos offense has 517 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 6: been lacking the last couple of years. Right, You've got 518 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 6: Courtland Sun and you've got some of these burners on 519 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 6: the outside and MEM's and these big body guys but 520 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 6: I think the slot guy that can run the choice routes, 521 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 6: can run the over routes on on third down and 522 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 6: short when you need to make a play and beat 523 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 6: man coverage, that's. 524 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 2: That's your guy. 525 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 6: So I think Bow is probably still smiling from from 526 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 6: that trade somewhere. I wouldn't be shocked if BO has 527 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 6: hit him up already and tried to throw and get 528 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 6: him invigorated into. 529 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 5: Kind of what's going on. So I think, uh, I 530 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 5: think that was an awesome. 531 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 6: Move by the Broncos going and getting him, and I 532 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 6: would imagine that's gonna do dividends for BO and and 533 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 6: do dividends for this offense. 534 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: You're you're still doing that stuff on CBS. Yeah, yep, awesome, 535 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: very cool. Hey man, it's great catch up with you. 536 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: Keep that phone on in case the Broncos needs you 537 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: some point down the road, man, and we appreciate the time. 538 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 5: No, I've I've decided at this point that I'm only 539 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 5: gonna have my phone and my my. 540 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 6: Services available if somebody needs me for the AFC or 541 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 6: NFC championship. 542 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 5: So since I set that bar so high this past season. 543 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 6: So no preseason, no fall camp. I don't want to 544 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 6: do any of the any of the dirty work. Let 545 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 6: me let me come in when you need a reliever 546 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 6: in the ninth. 547 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 2: Inning and uh and help the guys out. Gotta have standards. 548 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 2: Gotta have standards. 549 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 5: That's exactly right. I appreciate God be talking to you. 550 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: Ben Deducci always great there. And he talked about the 551 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: choice routes. We were talking about that a little bit 552 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: earlier with Jalen Waddell. Opportunity maybe to do that? Is 553 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: that something Let me ask you this to Dave. Is 554 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: that something that is established like training camp? Is that 555 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: something as he mentioned, you got to work on in 556 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: the off season, get together when your own private workout. 557 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 2: I mean, how do you get the choice routes down? 558 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: Because it feels like that's a feel deal between a 559 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: quarterback and the receiver. 560 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 561 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 3: I think you get as much work as you possibly can. 562 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 3: And that means in the off season, whether Boe goes 563 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 3: to him, takes other receivers or all the receivers together 564 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 3: here in Denver, or the entire group goes somewhere to 565 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 3: throw but you want to. I mean, option routes are 566 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 3: are dependent on the quarterback and receiver seeing exactly the 567 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 3: same thing. Yeah, they are hard to replicate on air. Right, 568 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 3: So now slants, basic comebacks, those things you can you 569 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 3: can run routes and get a real good look for 570 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 3: that quarterback in terms of you know what that receiver 571 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,719 Speaker 3: is about, and when does the hips sync and how 572 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 3: does he come out of his break? Hey, listen, think 573 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: about coming back down the line on the comeback. I 574 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 3: mean there are little things that the quarterback and the 575 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 3: receiver can share that will help them down the future. 576 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: But option routes, those those to. 577 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 3: Me, would be the most difficult thing to try to, 578 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 3: you know, get a lot of work on unless you're 579 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 3: going to have a defensive set with defensive players, whether 580 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 3: even even two or three, right, you have two or 581 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 3: three guys. One can play a linebacker, one can play 582 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 3: a safety, one can play a corner. 583 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 2: That can give you a little bit of a look. 584 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 4: I don't know this to be true, but I don't 585 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 4: think Sean Payton much of an option route guy. 586 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: Well you did a little bit with it, Evan Ingram, 587 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: because you remember on the it was the Washington game, 588 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, where he had that that play though the 589 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: long run that was in it was it was a juke, 590 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: yeah right, right, But wasn't it an option because he 591 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: could go, no, you're trying a lot of time. 592 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 2: A lot of times the juke is going to wind 593 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 2: up inside. Okay a lot of times. 594 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 4: But there were there were a lot of instances this 595 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 4: season where the Broncos didn't feel offensively like they were 596 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 4: in sync, you know, like Bo was. 597 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: Maybe not on the same page with some. 598 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 4: Of the receivers, right, So there probably has some there's 599 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 4: some work that needs to be done before the coaching 600 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 4: staff is convinced that these guys are on the same 601 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 4: page relative to option routes, but interested to see how 602 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 4: it develops. 603 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: You know, is that something Bo can advocate for potentially 604 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: or is that is that something needs to be advocated for. 605 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 4: But I think it's more of like a trust thing 606 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 4: that you see developed with certain receivers. And you know, 607 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 4: like Wes Welker was doing a lot of option routes, 608 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 4: Brandon Stokely when he was here doing a lot of 609 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 4: option routes. These were veterans who had been in systems 610 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 4: where they understood where to be and and the coach 611 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 4: believed that they knew where to be at the right time. 612 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 4: And so this is more of you know, you don't 613 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 4: throw a couple of rookies out there, in my opinion, 614 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 4: and ask him to do that. You know, you you 615 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 4: you ask guys to do that who have shown an 616 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 4: ability to not just make plays, but understand where they're 617 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 4: supposed to be and how they're supposed to be there, and. 618 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 2: Also show a good connection there. 619 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 4: So I think, you know, as Jalen Wattle and bow 620 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 4: Nicks grow together on the field, I think that. 621 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 2: Could be an option. Eh, I say, here's you DoD 622 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 2: there good. 623 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: Let me ask you, is this the success of Jalen 624 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: Waddle success slash failure? But let's lean on success? Is 625 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: that going to be more dependent on the scheme or 626 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,719 Speaker 1: on Bo as in, will he be successful just if 627 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: this schematically they can put him in positions or is 628 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: it more leaning in your opinion on Bo taking another 629 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: step as a quarterback being more accurate with the ball. 630 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:44,479 Speaker 2: It could be a little bit. 631 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: But if you're putting one in one more side than 632 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: the other, I guess is what I'm asking. 633 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, the coaches. 634 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,479 Speaker 3: Coaches get paid to put their best guys in the 635 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 3: most favorable situations. And with Wattle, I mean I'm sure 636 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 3: they they looked at a lot of tape on Jalen 637 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 3: Waddle excuse me, And but that doesn't mean they're going 638 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 3: to use him exactly like Miami used him. They want 639 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 3: to now incorporate. Okay, what's he let when he gets 640 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 3: here and they start really working and the coaches can 641 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 3: be there, what's he like? You know, he's he's a 642 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 3: smaller guy. So do we like him as much in 643 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 3: the slot? Do we like him you know, running routes, 644 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 3: in in inside and in with linebackers and probably tough enough. 645 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 3: What does he what does he do well? It seems 646 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 3: to be a really good tracker of the deep ball. Okay, 647 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 3: how do how do we get him lined up to 648 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 3: have the most advantageous matchup if we want to throw 649 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 3: him the ball deep? 650 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 2: So it's just getting used to it's getting used to it. 651 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 3: For a quarterback, it's absolutely essential that Bo gets a 652 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 3: lot of time throwing the ball to him in the offseason, 653 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 3: whether that be work as soon as Bo's able to 654 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 3: get work in, or whether that's you got to get 655 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 3: worked before the OTAs and certainly before Mini camp and 656 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 3: then you'll get a lot of work in training camp. 657 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, every every receiver is a little bit different. The 658 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 4: way they run the rounds, you know their catch radius, 659 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 4: how they come out of their brakes, and so you 660 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 4: have the more reps you can do the better and 661 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 4: get on the same page there. But I also think 662 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 4: it's fairly simple sometimes and we make it more complicated 663 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 4: when it comes to getting the ball in the best 664 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 4: player's hands and letting them do what they do. I agree, 665 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 4: you know, receivers, I can't speak for all of them, 666 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 4: but for myself, I don't want a lot of tricky stuff. 667 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 2: To get me the ball. 668 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 4: Just throw me the ball right, give me a route 669 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 4: that I run well, and it can be versus whatever 670 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 4: covers they got. Let's get let's get this ball moving forward. 671 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 4: And I thought, you know, the Broncos last year, they 672 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 4: had a lot of sideways stuff and a lot of 673 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 4: cutesy stuff, and they didn't attack the leverage of the defenders. 674 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 4: I would like to see Jalen Waddle attack the leverage 675 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 4: of the defenser defenders with his speed and his athleticism. 676 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 4: And he has some really good hands, right, And you 677 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 4: got to think part of this acquisition was because he's 678 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 4: a sure handed receiver. Sure the Broncos receivers had some 679 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,479 Speaker 4: struggles catching the ball last year. So let's see if 680 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 4: this guy can catch the ball, give him a slip, 681 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 4: send him on a go, run a comeback, do some 682 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 4: basic stuff and allow him to do what he does best. 683 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: Well, I like the point that they've brought up earlier, like, 684 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: when you're a defense preparing for this offense, there's gonna 685 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: be more things you've got to be mindful of, right, 686 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: not only because of his speed but also because of 687 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: his ability to run routes and catching all those kinds 688 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: of things. But more anything, we know what Courland Sutton is, 689 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: we know in a lot of ways what some of 690 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: the other guys are. What Jalen Waddle offers makes it 691 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: difficult as far as matchups go. 692 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 2: If you're gonna say, put. 693 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: My one on Courtland, like say your tallest receiver or 694 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: tallest cornerback, right, usually that's your your CB one, Well 695 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: you probably say right off the bat, you'll put him 696 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: on Courland, right, So then that gives you options to 697 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: move Waddle around to find those matchups. 698 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 3: Correct theoretically, here's how I think defenses will look at 699 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 3: the Broncos. And again, we haven't seen him in the offseason, right, 700 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 3: they haven't worked out together. There's a lot of things 701 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 3: that have to happen. But I believe the defense goes 702 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 3: in and they look at when they get ready for 703 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 3: a game on Sunday, they're playing the Broncos. All right, 704 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 3: who can who can beat us? I mean that's the 705 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 3: first thing I think they identify. You got you got 706 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 3: a lot of good players. Who's the guy that can 707 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 3: beat us? Okay, Wattle can beat us. So we've got 708 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 3: to go into this thing making sure that we we 709 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 3: may give up screens, we got to make sure that 710 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 3: we emphasize coming up and put a hat on him 711 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 3: when he catches it, right, We may give up slant whatever. 712 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 3: What we're not going to give up is we're not 713 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 3: going to let him line up with single coverage if 714 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 3: if maybe the defense doesn't feel great about their their corners. 715 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 3: We're not gonna let him line up in either cover 716 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 3: one like one, three or three and just have that 717 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 3: dude run by us. So we're gonna, at least to 718 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 3: start the game, we're going to have a safety over 719 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 3: the top of Jalen Wattle. We'll adjust our coverages. That's 720 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 3: why it's important because it's easy to do that if 721 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 3: Chaden will easier to do it if Jayden Wattle is 722 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 3: the X receiver all the time or the Z right. 723 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 3: So if you see an X, we'll roll to the 724 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 3: weak side. We'll take our chances. We can play a 725 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 3: combination of coverages to the strong side. But now what 726 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 3: happens if you've got that call and Wattle lines up 727 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 3: in the slot right now, all bets are off. Now 728 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 3: you probably have to check. You'll probably say, hey, if 729 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 3: he isn't the slot, we'll check to. But there'll be two, 730 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 3: maybe three coverages that will work with him checked to 731 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 3: in the slot, so the more they can move him around. 732 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 3: And then to top that off, I think because there'll 733 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 3: be an emphasis on taking away the deep threat that 734 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 3: Wattle presents, then you're going to get more favorable coverages 735 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 3: for Courtland and Evan Ingram and whomever else, maybe Marvin Mims, 736 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 3: maybe it's Troy Franklin. When you bring a guy that 737 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 3: has that kind of speed and has proven it in 738 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 3: his brief career in the NFL, it opens the door 739 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 3: for a lot of other guys to be really productive 740 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 3: because the defense is trying to take him out. 741 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 2: Of the game. 742 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: So when we come back, I have one more question 743 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: on this because I'm really fascinated on it. So Jaylen 744 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: Wable ran a four three seven forty. Marvin Mimm was 745 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: the four to three eight, so pretty close. First, Franklin's 746 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: the four to four to one, so yeah, again, we're 747 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: all kind of enranged. What makes Jalen Wattle that much 748 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: better than those guys? I want to ask you guys 749 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,959 Speaker 1: that when we come back, we'll get into a conversation 750 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: about the Nuggets as well, because they got their final 751 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: ten games starting off tonight,