1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Five O five, the fifty five k r C, the 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: talk stations. Happy Friday, even Opening Days, go Reds. There 3 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: you go, a little Opening Day SoundBite, There go Reds. 4 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: I hope you're able to go down Opening Day parade. Obviously, 5 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: just an amazing tradition here in the city of Cincinnati, 6 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: and such a great time. I would only suggest, and 7 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: I hate him tempering this whole, you know, glorious day 8 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: in the city of Cincinnati, even for people who aren't 9 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: traditional baseball fans, just be vigilant, keep your eyes peeled 10 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: with you down there. It's a crowd of people, and 11 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: a very very packed crowd of people. So this is 12 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: not Brian Thomas being paranoid. This is you know, admonishments 13 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: from the yard lords and masters in government giving you 14 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: advice about, you know, crowds of people. Most notably since 15 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: we're involved in a conflict, a war, some call it 16 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: with a sponsor of terrorism. So just throwing it out there, 17 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: you can keep your eyes peeled for suspicious activity. It 18 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: may take a little bit of wind out of the 19 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: sales of the great day you're supposed to be having. 20 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: I mean, this is where we find ourselves, I suppose 21 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: in global conflicts that you can't let your guard down 22 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: completely and just have a really good time bubble burst 23 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: on that. So you can choose to and ignore the surroundings. 24 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: But most people experts in you know, the field of 25 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: terrorists and attacks on crowds, keep your eyes peeled. It's 26 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: just the right thing to do. Rad Thomas here glad 27 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: to be hope you're having a wonderful day. Feel free 28 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: to call me five on three seven four nine fifty 29 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: five hundred eight hundred eight two three talk or found 30 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: five fifty on AT and T funds coming up in 31 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: the morning shows seven oh five. Fast forward a couple 32 00:01:59,960 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: of hours with Congressman or In Davidson. Will the government 33 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: ever be open again? It's a legitimate question for the congressman. 34 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: And remember why is it closed right now? You're standing 35 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: in the long line an airport some people four and 36 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 1: a half hours. Got some more details on that because 37 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: I am going to ask Congressman David's about the lines 38 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: at the airport. A sort of a problem exacerbated by 39 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: the fact that the government is shut down. Yeah, TSA 40 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: agents aren't getting paid, and that the Democrats are causing 41 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: pain and suffering on the American people. And particularly pain 42 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: and suffering on government employees working for the TSA, and 43 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: that the motive behind this is to protect illegal immigrants 44 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: subject to a detaining detention order here in the United 45 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: States under US law. They have isolated US law. They 46 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: are under US law eligible to be deported, and there's 47 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: been a determination on that that they should be deported. 48 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: ICE just doing its job, and the Democrats don't like it, 49 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: and they're willing to cause you pain, a lot of 50 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: pain because apparently they're on life support. And I guess 51 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: need the illegal immigrant votes or something. It's just just 52 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: keep your eyes focused on the problem here and what 53 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: do they really want. It's the Republicans negotiating with the 54 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: Democrats that we're getting the government open. Is like the 55 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: Donald Trump negotiating with the Iranians. It's a ever moving target. 56 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: Hey we're making progress. No we're not. Hey we're making progress. No, 57 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: we've never talked to you. I mean this anyhow. Democrats 58 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: list to demands. Republicans can see to most of them. 59 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: They no problem, you know with body cameras, that's cool. 60 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: Maybe we can work without judicial warrants, we can get 61 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: Maybe we can work with judicial warrants. We can get 62 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: rid of the administrative warrant thing. How about working on that. No, 63 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: and we are our demands have changed. They don't want 64 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: the government to be open, They want this pain to 65 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: be felt. At least that's kind of direction. I'm concluding, 66 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: we'll talk with Congressman davidsonbout Iran, more ground troops, and 67 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: again amid this swirling mass of confusion over where we 68 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: are relative to settling the Iranian war. I looking at 69 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: having Congressman David's a jime in on that. He's obviously 70 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: got more information than I do. Senator ran Paul, what 71 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: a great one to two punches. I'd like to refer 72 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: to the Massy Napolitano one two punch when they follow 73 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: each other. Congressman David's in followed by Senator Ran Paul. 74 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: Also on Iran plus Senator Paul versus Mark Mullen in 75 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: the confirmation hearing, and Yes, bring back Senator Paul's penny plan. 76 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: He's got a way to solve the problem of our 77 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: national debt. It's a simple one. You know what, Maybe 78 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: the government should spend less. Let's just pairt back by 79 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: a fraction, just a little bit. Can we all live 80 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: without it? 81 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: Yes? 82 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: Of course we could. Senator Ran Paul seven thirty, followed 83 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: by Kurt Hartman YEP, one of our favorite lawyers here 84 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: in the fifty five KC Morning Show. Kurt Hartman final 85 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: lawsuit against the Forest Hill School District over redactions that 86 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: the district made responding to a public records request for 87 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: its Immigrations and Customs Enforcement Response Plan. Kurt Hartman on 88 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: behalf of his client, claiming the law the law, the 89 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: school has violated its legal duties refusing to produce public 90 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: records the public records document. The district said making the 91 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: reactions was within its legal right. Looking forward to having 92 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: Kurt Hartman explain that and really probably explain to me 93 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: why a Forest Hill School district has an Immigration and 94 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: Customs Enforcement Response plan. Kurt in eight oh five fall 95 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: by Yes, iHeartMedia aviation expert Jay Ratliff, which dovetails nicely 96 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: into the long lines at the airport conversation I'll be 97 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: having with Congressman Davidson Transportation Security Administration Acting Administrator Nahnwinn McNeil, 98 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: which is hilarious if you McNeil. That's an Irish name, Hanwinn, 99 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: not Irish. So anyway, she was warning lawmakers testified before 100 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: the House Homeland Security Committee, saying the TSA has been 101 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: operating state in the obvious without stable funding for about 102 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: half the fiscal year. This year, with more than sixty 103 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: one thousand employees, ninety five percent of the workforce is 104 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: working without pay. Why Well, they're critical critical infrastructure, so 105 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: they have to go to work. But do they know 106 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: they can quit or they can you know, claim that 107 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: they're sick. And that's what's going on obviously something Neil's 108 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: cautioning lawmakers during the questioning TSA is being forced to consolidate, 109 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: suggesting that regional airports may have to close, in spite 110 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: of the fact that ice agents were surged into the 111 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: airports to smooth out the delays there still yesterday suggesting 112 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: that well, airport closures. I'm looking forward to having Jay 113 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: Rabble with chime in on that too. They've already accrued 114 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: one almost one billion dollars in unpaid payroll. She said. 115 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: We continue to screen millions of passengers a day, but 116 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: our workforce is under severe financial and emotional distress or stress. 117 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: Rather talking about officers sleeping in their cars, taking on 118 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: multiple jobs, knows all about that. One relying on public donations. 119 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: Isn't that sad that a TSA worker has to go 120 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,559 Speaker 1: out and seek a charitable contribution through a go fund 121 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: me paid just to get by because well, illegal immigrants 122 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: subject to detention orders are being protected by Democrats through 123 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: inaction on funding. TSA so far lost roughly four hundred 124 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 1: and sixty officers since February, and that's on the heels 125 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: of more than eleven hundred officers leaving last year during 126 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: the shutdown. Notice a trend there absenteeism up nationwide, call 127 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: out rates climbing from four percent to eleven percent and 128 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: exceeding forty percent at some airports. That's me calling in 129 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: as a TSA agent saying I can't show up to 130 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: work today, got to work that second job or whatever. 131 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: Forty percent down in some airports. As passenger volumes going up, 132 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: which they say is about up from five percent over 133 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: last year, Spring breaks upon us and they say it's 134 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: going to get worse. Why, Well, apparently the FIFA World 135 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: Cup in June is going to drive another surge and travel. 136 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: I found that a little hard to believe. But what 137 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: do I know about soccer? I know it's popular. Joe 138 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: Strekker is a huge fan. McNeil s in hearing yesterday 139 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: said wait times have exceeded four and a half hours 140 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: at some airports, which causes the security a risk of 141 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: misflights as well as additional security coturns. Going back to 142 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: my comment about being ever vigilant, most people are. Many 143 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: people have observed, you know, experts and who are into 144 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: the whole concept of terrorism and bombing. Look, it's a 145 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: big pack room full of people. They're all standing around 146 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: waiting to get through the TSA line. This is before 147 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: you go through TSA checkpoint. So somebody in that room 148 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: might have a bomb. Huh. Conveniently packed in masses of 149 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: people at literally every airport across this kind yep, a 150 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: bit of a security risk, I would say so. And 151 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: another reality, newly hired officers aren't going to be ready 152 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: to time us in time to assist during the FIFA event, 153 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: most notably the next surge they expect, because it takes 154 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: several months for new TSA agents to be properly trained. 155 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: This is like trying to rebuild law enforcement after condemning 156 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: and condemning law enforcement as an inherently racist, terrible group 157 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: of people across the board. Yeah, when public will goes 158 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: against the police department. Police don't aren't supported by the community. 159 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: They quit. Oh look hmm, so massive number of problems 160 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: and again go back to the cause, the root of 161 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: all of this. You see where the priorities are five 162 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: fifteen to fifty five car see the talk station. Feel 163 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: free to give me a call, plan to talk about 164 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: in this hour and the next hour. And I love 165 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: the facilitation of the conversation when you call in five 166 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: on three seven four nine fifty five hundred at eight 167 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: two to three talk or pound five to fifty on 168 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 1: AT and T phones to be right back. This is 169 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: shit Happy Friday. 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Speak more about immigration immigration divide, That 179 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: isn't Barton swam commenting on the whole situation politically, and 180 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: the Democrats are on the wrong side. Remember the shutdown 181 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: his consequence of their feelings about illegal immigrants, And he 182 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: reminded folks a signal moment. Back in June twenty seven 183 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: to twenty nineteen, remember the Democratic presidential debate. Ten candidates. 184 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: They were all asked if their healthcare plans would provide 185 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: coverage four quote undocumented immigrants. Close quotes. Some say illegal immigrants, 186 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: but that's not politically correct anyway, those who are not 187 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: entitled to be here under the law. Ten candidates asked, 188 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: all of them across the left winging ideological spectrum. All 189 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: of them raised their hand. He says there was a 190 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: time when liberals and leftist would object to unfettered immigration 191 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: because it infringed on their ability to expand the welfare state. 192 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: That time seems to have gone, and he reminds the 193 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: world seven years later, every Democrat in the country not 194 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: named Biden knows. Kamala Harris lost twenty twenty four election 195 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: because her party refused for three years to do anything 196 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: about the southern border. Remember she was borders are had 197 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: that workout for you. You're right, it's when electing. New 198 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: York Times report, New York Times making exactly that assertion 199 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: ran into summer. The newsworthy part was that it was running 200 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: at times. Democrats know they blew it by grobbling before 201 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: the progressive left, immigrant right crowd. It's conceivable that they 202 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: may avoid that mistake for a few election cycles. And 203 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: he refers to a liberal outlet called The search Light 204 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: Institute earlier this week published a report on the electoral 205 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: advantages to be had by Democrats if they can move 206 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: to the center on immigration. Now a point, you got 207 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: to ignore what they said about Trump and all of that. 208 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: But he's the Searchlight report says, offers nothing but common sense. 209 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: It's polling indicates that Republicans, Democrats, and independence support robust 210 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: border enforcement and value legal immigration, even as they worry 211 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: that too much of it, too fast, does damage to 212 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: America's society. They're learning that in Europe very quickly. Too. 213 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: Majorities believe that asylum seekers should apply for entry outside 214 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: the US, and the illegal aliens who've worked, worked and 215 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: committed no crimes offer over the course of many years, 216 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: those who have been here for a long time, like 217 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: the dreamers, merit some path to citizenship that's got to 218 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: be hammered out, that's going to require new legislation. So 219 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: while many may be desirous that all this person's been 220 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: here and has been demonstrably beneficial to the American economy, 221 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: and it's done work and make the arguments, I get 222 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: it that Searchlight reporting points out of ISAs Democrats to 223 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: acknowledge that the parties know nothing recklessness of twenty twenty 224 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: one to twenty three, the wide open borders was a debacle, 225 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: and that fair to force borders encourages human smuggling and 226 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: other perils. Expect smart Democrats to calibrate accordingly. See that's 227 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: kind of advice, and that a sane person would take. 228 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: You know what, maybe I'm with the too far left 229 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: Democrat crew. Maybe I should, you know, realign my position 230 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: to appeal more to some of the centrists, the independence 231 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: and maybe even peel off a couple of Republicans because 232 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: I'm at least saying on border security and immigration generally speaking, 233 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: may recalibrate point every time some young innocent dies by 234 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: the gun or knife of an illegal immigrant, as happened 235 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: last week in Chicago, eighteen year old loyalist student Sheridan 236 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: Gorman watch elected Democrats mosey further away from their former radicalism. 237 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: If they do, then maybe the government might open back up. 238 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: That's a simple move over to the center a little bit. 239 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: Say hey, I'm okay about this, and pay the ICE agents. 240 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 1: Although I have to ignowl or pay TSA agents, I 241 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: should say I have to acknowledge the ICE and the 242 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: Democrats know this. It's one of the reasons that the 243 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: Republicans have been able to hold out. ICE is being 244 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: paid because the one big beautiful bill or the great 245 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: big beautiful bill funded ICE for like three years. To 246 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: talk to GOP voters, you may hear notes of moderation 247 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: that weren't detectable a decade ago. And the question of 248 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: border enforcement, Republicans are where they've always been, zero tolerance. 249 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: What about the twelve to fourteen million, mostly Latin Americans 250 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: migrants already here. The past decade has made a few 251 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: things play to write leaning Americans, among them that the 252 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: migrant workers, whose presence in the country they once regretted, 253 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: tend toward religious observance and family cohesion. Also, they know 254 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: how to work, don't underestimate. That point correlate to the 255 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: GOP's partial transformation over the past decade into a working 256 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: class party, is that ordinary Republicans voters identify more readily 257 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: than they once did with a class of people known 258 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: for sedulus's manual labor, illegal migrants. Whatever Trump and Steven 259 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: Miller might say, don't vote and don't rely on welfare 260 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: to any significant degree. But if they did vote, they 261 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily plump for Democrats and their offers of free stuff. 262 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: Ten or fifteen years ago, right wing radio host told 263 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: their audiences daily that Democrats wanted to addict illegal aliens 264 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: to welfare and put them permanently on the D column. 265 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: Things haven't worked out that way. The Hispanic voters have 266 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: moved markedly toward the GOP in twenty twenty four. It 267 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: reflects that point. None of this makes the federal government's 268 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: failure to police the border any less of an outrage. 269 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: No solution to the problem is free of pain, but 270 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: it is no longer true if it ever was, that 271 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: one party's voters want everything the others don't. That Trump 272 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: had strong support on immigration, then lost a hefty measure 273 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: of it as enforcement efforts became chaotic, tells us that 274 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: most Americans find themselves somewhere in the middle waiting for 275 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: their politicians to come up with some mess come up 276 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: with some messy compromise. A compromise, at least as far 277 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: as funding goes, does not have to be messy. Donald 278 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: Trump's already moderated on the enforcement efforts. I don't recall 279 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: reading of late any claims that you know, ICE agents 280 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: have been you know, breaking into homes and you know, 281 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: grabbing Americans and killing and raping and maiming and murdering, 282 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: and all the cries and wailing and ashing and gnashing 283 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: of teeth. It seems to be absent from the reporting lately. Oh, 284 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: maybe the war is a distraction, But no, I do 285 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: know that Trump has moderated some of the policies. Returning 286 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: to that moderate will all across the board eighty twenty 287 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: maybe even ninety ten issue that everybody, for the most 288 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: part in America wants to get rid of murderers and 289 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: rapists and evil people. Right, that's a no brainer. Five 290 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: fifty five K see the talk stations the Ground've got 291 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: local stories coming up. Her phone calls. Either way you 292 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: want to go, we'll go there'd be right back fifty 293 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: five KRC on an opening day. Lots of people gonna 294 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: be that out of the prey before I get to 295 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: the phones five one three seven eight hundred eight two 296 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: three talk my submarine or friend cribbage. Mike gonna be 297 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: in the USS Cincinnati writing the submarine USS Cincinnati with 298 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: the other sub veterans on opening day parade. Have fun, Mike, 299 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: and a salute to all the veterans that are going 300 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: to be participating in the prey today, So good for you. 301 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: And the opening of the uh, the the USS Cincinnati 302 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: park up at a Voice of America, he says, May sixteenth, 303 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: the official memorial in Westchester's opening day. On that, I'm 304 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: sure we'll hear from Mike on that and get people 305 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: rallying around the USS Cincinnati. It's a really cool exhibit. 306 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: You can see it from the road up there. Let's 307 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: go to the phone. See what Tom's got today. Tom, 308 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Morning Show. Very happy Friday eve to you. 309 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 3: Hey, good morning. 310 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 4: Just I haven't done a traffic or driving PSA in 311 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 4: a while. On the thrilling out this morning, there's these uh, 312 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 4: there's these things that I think most every card comes 313 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 4: equipped with don't know people, Uh yeah, those, But the 314 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 4: thing I was referring to is they're called mirrors. 315 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. 316 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 4: They usually have one one on each side and one 317 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 4: in the middle. That's that. That's that kind of rectangular 318 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 4: thing that's stuck to your front windshield. 319 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. 320 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 4: And the reason of what one good one good use 321 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 4: of those is to see people coming up from behind you. 322 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 4: That is, you could you can actually see what's going 323 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 4: on behind you if you look at them and pay attention. 324 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 4: If if if you're not just you know, motoring along 325 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 4: and all you care about is yourself, then you know 326 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 4: you can notice somebody you know quickly approaching you from 327 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 4: you know, from behind you, so you can maybe get 328 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 4: out of. 329 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: The way or maybe or. 330 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 4: Maybe you can speed up a little bit and make 331 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 4: the gap so the person can get around you. I 332 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 4: don't I don't care. I don't mind changing lanes to 333 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 4: get around people. I just I just don't think people 334 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 4: realize what those little shiny things are that that are 335 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 4: in front of them. 336 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 5: So I just lead. 337 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: Is there is there a broader point to be made 338 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: use your rear view ear? 339 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, please please pay attention to what's going on 340 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 4: around you. So and that's a good overall theme to 341 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 4: pay attention so and that that we can go over 342 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 4: into politics with that. We do we but a lot 343 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 4: of people were just just lazy. We don't. We don't. 344 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 4: We got we got other things. 345 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 5: To pay attention to. 346 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 4: And when I say lazy, I don't necessarily mean all 347 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 4: across the board you're lazy. You decide there's certain areas 348 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 4: you're not going to bother with because you're paying attention 349 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 4: to something else. And but when you have something like 350 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 4: like elected officials that directly affect your life, you know, 351 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 4: there's the If you want to avoid sports, there are 352 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 4: people who don't care about Opening Day, sure, and if 353 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 4: you don't pay attention to the reds or whatever, it's 354 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 4: not going to hurt you, gonna you know whatever. But politics, 355 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 4: you got to have something some attention paid. 356 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 5: To that you need. 357 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 4: Everybody who is old enough you get I think you 358 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 4: get to the point of fifteen sixteen, you need to 359 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 4: start paying attention to it to some extent, maybe not 360 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 4: like you do you call it weed dwellers, maybe not 361 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 4: that much, but you got to start thinking about what 362 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 4: what what are these people doing that are affecting my life? 363 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 4: They directly affect what happens to you, how much money 364 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 4: comes out of your paycheck, rules and regulations that you 365 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 4: are supposed to follow, things like that. You know, I 366 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 4: think it's and of course, you know, schools aren't really 367 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 4: teaching our kids to do that unless they want to 368 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 4: take them out and protest something. You know that that 369 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 4: that they'll that they'll push, that kind of civic stuff 370 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 4: they'll push. But actually teaching children in schools, which which 371 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 4: your guy last night in is empower you. Seminar was 372 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 4: talking about how the education system is is being geared 373 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 4: toward getting people away from capitalism and the way the 374 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 4: West was built. But you know, you have to pay attention. 375 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 4: Parents have to teach their kids some things, and I 376 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,239 Speaker 4: know they get bored. Oh dad, mom, I don't want 377 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 4: to hear about it. 378 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 6: Well you need to hear about it. 379 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 4: You need to pay attention to it. And don't let 380 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 4: your kids break you down, you know, talk to them, 381 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 4: you know, send them down, say this is important stuff. 382 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 5: See this. 383 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 4: You know this money you want me to give you 384 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 4: every every day, every week, whatever you want me to 385 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 4: help you buy this? This is why I can or 386 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 4: can't do it because of how much money I make 387 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 4: and how much money they're taking. We got we gotta 388 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 4: pay some attention to this. We got to put some 389 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 4: effort into it, and we got to teach our kids 390 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 4: don't vote Democrat. 391 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: Have a great day, bro, you too, Tom, That's kind 392 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: of you. To my point, the fools one's not looking 393 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: out for his or her and the best interest. Yeah, 394 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: and not looking at politics is foolish because they do. 395 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: Politicians so profoundly impact our day to day lives and 396 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: in many ways we don't even recognize. That's where the 397 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: weed dwelling comes in. There's a long road you got 398 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: to get to from what they do to how it 399 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: impacts your life. And sometimes it's a little difficult to follow, 400 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: but it's worth following it to appreciate the realities. You know, 401 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 1: every little it counts. What they do can really mean 402 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: a lot to your world. Real quick. Here if a 403 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: positive development out of Columbus, which rarely happens, the Larry 404 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: Henderson Act past the Ohio House a representative yesterday. You 405 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: may remember the Hamilton County Deputy Larry Henderson was intentionally 406 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: killed while directing traffic at U. See, well, some good 407 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,719 Speaker 1: can come out of it. Increase penalties for anybody convicted 408 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: of killing a first responder. According to introduced by Representative 409 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: Cindy Abrams and Phil Plummer, both Republicans, the Larry Henderson 410 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: Act increases penalties for aggravated murder in the state when 411 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: a victim is a peace officer, prosecutor, first responder, or 412 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: military member. Legislation specifically mandates the death penalty or life 413 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: imprisonment without the possibility of parole for adult defender's convicted 414 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: of killing someone in one of those protected roles. There 415 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: you go. At least someone's doing something about it. 416 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 7: Now. 417 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: Will that act as a deterrence that will remain to 418 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: be seen? But get the word out there. Maybe if 419 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: you know ahead of time and you're inclined to murder 420 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: a first responder, you might want to take that into account. 421 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: Five thirty five fifty five kr CD talk station stack 422 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: is stupid coming up. Phone calls are always welcome and 423 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: we'll take priority. I'll be right back. Fifty five krc 424 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: okay five forty thinky about KRCD talk station What with 425 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: the outside of the Norm Blumber music stack is stupid. 426 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: Right here on top, We've got a Pennsylvania man where 427 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: a Pennsylvania, where guy torched his home while singing the 428 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: aforementioned burning down the House that's actually came out in 429 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three my graduation from high school year. That 430 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: is insane anyway, According to investigators, Martin Hey High, Hey, 431 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: forty three years old, set a fire in his Altoona 432 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: residence about three am on Sunday, then stood in the 433 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: doorway as he tried to block fire personnel from entering 434 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: the building and putting out the fire. A time of 435 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: the quote unquote alleged arson the home occupied by his 436 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: mom and six year old son, as well as a 437 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: third individual. His mom, Rebecca Plous, set of police as 438 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: she awoke when the smoke detector went off, went downstairs 439 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: to find the residence filled with heavy smoke. Plaus spotted 440 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: Hay standing over a smoldering, smoldering living room chair court 441 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: of the phony complaint. At the time, Plaus could hear 442 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: the defendant sing the nineteen eighty three rock song burning 443 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: down the House, along with the smoldering chair. Fire investigator 444 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: spotted melted glass in the living room, four melted wallpaper, 445 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: and a charred fireplace mantle. Hey taken to the hospital 446 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 1: quote due to being under the influence close quote shocking 447 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: no One. While being treated, he reportedly informed medical staff 448 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: that he was having a bad day his words, so 449 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: he had attempted to place the chair in his fireplace, 450 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,479 Speaker 1: telling police he burned the chair because it was dirty. 451 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to go back to the under the Influence 452 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: to explain that Hey hit with multiple amen brother hit 453 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: with multiple arson charges as well as risking catastrophe and 454 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: an injuring the welfare of a child, locked up and 455 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: then Blair County Jail, not in front of Judge Silverstein 456 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: and Hamilton County a one million dollar bail. He's also 457 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: a registered sex offender convicted in twenty twenty two of 458 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: indecent assault, corruption of miners in unlawful contact or communication 459 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: with a miner. We got a provo Utah where a 460 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: mom is accused of kidnapping an eleven year old boy 461 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 1: and forcing him to apologize to her daughter after he 462 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: rejected the girl I know eleven years old. Amberley Colazzo 463 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: said her eleven year old son been constantly bothered by 464 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: a girl who has a crush on him. Clausus said, 465 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: for the last two years she's been bothering my son, 466 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: but Eventually, Kalaso said this situation went too far. One day, 467 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 1: Clausa said her son got fed up with the fact 468 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: that she doesn't leave him alone, and he rejected the 469 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 1: girl with a rude comment that's eleven years old. That 470 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: never happens, does it. Then the girl's mom step in, 471 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: Shannon Marie Tofuga, accused the kidnapping the boy to force 472 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 1: him to apologize to her daughter. Flasa said grabbed him 473 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: by the arm and said he was going with her 474 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: to apologize to her daughter. She put him in her 475 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: vehicle and took him to her home and sat him 476 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: on her couch. Clausa said her son was threatened and 477 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: forced to apologize to the girl before Tofuga released him. 478 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,479 Speaker 1: She said they basically opened the door, told him to 479 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: get the F word out, and he ran all the 480 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: way home. This resulted in recently filed child abuse and 481 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: kidnapping charges for Tafuga, pushed for ballard with the US or. 482 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: The Utah County Attorney's office said, even if your child 483 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: is being bullied, the law does not give you permission 484 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: to kidnap the child. Stay I'll use to Foo's attorney 485 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: released the statement, saying a part that they respectfully deny 486 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: the allegation of driving. The filing as a symptom of 487 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: our own society's failings, where children were once held accountable 488 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: by their own parents. Eh faga a closa not not 489 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: buying that. So the situation could have been handled differently. 490 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: Of course, had she come knock on my door like 491 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: an adult and said, hey, our kids are having issues, 492 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: can we speak, I would have gladly let her in 493 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: and we could have handled the situation. But not once 494 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: did she ever try. I never met this woman. 495 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 4: Idiots doing idiot things because they're idiots. 496 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: A man exclamation point in all cabs in bold and 497 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: underlined five one, three, seven, four nine fifty five hundred, 498 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: eight hundred eight two three talk found five fifty on 499 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: eighteen to funds real quick here I heeart media at me. 500 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: Had to mention because I heard from Steve this morning, 501 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: who was in Germany. He is at the airport in 502 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: Paris listening to the fifty five Cascen Morning Show while 503 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: he await it's his flight to get back here to 504 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: the United States. I bet it's better here than in Paris. Steve, 505 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: good luck and safe travels, brother to you and your 506 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: better half five point forty five ifty five kr C 507 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: the talk station Okaway, fifty five KRC talk station. It 508 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: is five forty nine here, fifty five kr CD talk station. 509 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: Very Happy Friday, Eve, T five on three, seven, four nine, 510 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eight to two three 511 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: talk pound FI fifty from eight and T phones. Corey 512 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: listening on the iHeart Media AP just chimed in. He's 513 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: listening listening from Cleveland this morning. Good morning, Corey in Cleveland. 514 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: Get the memo. It's an opening day here in Cincinnati. Corey. 515 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: Let's go to the phone. See what Jay's got this morning. Jay, 516 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to the morning show. Happy Friday, Eve. 517 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 8: To you, sir, Hey, Good morning from Rhode Island. Brian, 518 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 8: you're coming in loud and player on you iHeartMedia app. 519 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: We're global this morning. Day, We're global this morning from 520 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: Paris you are to Cleveland to Rhode Islands. What's on 521 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: your mind? 522 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 8: To Dave Jake, Hey, When I was in Corporate America 523 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 8: years ago, I had many jobs where I was responsible 524 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 8: for productivity and cost out and weekly I was in 525 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 8: front of CEOs and their staff talking about how are 526 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 8: we doing planned versus actual? On multimillion dollar waste elimination 527 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 8: initiatives that went on for years yep. And so we 528 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 8: were accountable every week to stand and deliver. We were 529 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 8: either making it or we weren't. The silence from jd 530 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 8: Vance he's been in the job to take waste out 531 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 8: of the federal government. I think he's been in the 532 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 8: job for two weeks, which some people may say, well, 533 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 8: come on, man, give him a chance. Rome is burning, 534 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 8: and there was a one point seven trillion dollar discretionary 535 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 8: funding and the federal budget. Let's just start there. But 536 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 8: if Jay was in JD Vance's shoes, if I was 537 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 8: given the blessing the honor of cutting waste down of 538 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 8: the federal government, there would be a daily press conference 539 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 8: and I would be putting up numbers that would blow 540 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 8: people's hair back, probably starting with taking a page from 541 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 8: doctor Fauci, which is every government employee that's non essential, 542 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 8: you don't show up for work anymore because we have 543 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 8: a war to pay for. 544 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 9: And he literally would. 545 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: He literally had an announcement yesterday about using artificial intelligence 546 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: to address fraud. It's in the in medical center, in 547 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: the centers for Medicare and Medicaid services, so that was literally, 548 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: they know. 549 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 10: Where the fraud is. 550 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 11: They know where the fraud is. 551 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 8: Now the report that the American for Prosperity had a 552 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 8: Foyer request for UH, they released the report to them 553 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 8: that said where the fraud was, that showed Ohio was 554 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 8: in worst case. So we don't have to wait for 555 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 8: artificial intelligence. The data exists right now. For JD to 556 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 8: do something to hide behind artificial intelligence is disappointing. 557 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: I know you're you're very quick to criticize, and that's fine. 558 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: There's certainly lots of criticism to be levied on all 559 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: aspects of government. But the man's been on the job 560 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: for two weeks, and you know, sometimes it's like the 561 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: wheels of justice. It spins slowly, but at least it's 562 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: spinning in the right direction. With JD. Vans behind the effort. 563 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: In this time, hopefully Vansaity administration is uncovered fraud among 564 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: a manay the nineteen billion dollars at least since the administration 565 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: has been investigating a Minnesota alone. So yeah, there's a 566 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: lot of fraud out there. We know where a lot 567 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: of it is, and here it is just an announcement yesterday. 568 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: I mean, we'll pray that he makes more regular announcements 569 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: and identifies more fraud. Again, I think I like JD. 570 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: Vance in the role more than say, anybody in a 571 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: Biden administration or a potential Kamala Harris association. 572 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 8: Hey, I'm good with that, but TikTok, we're burning a 573 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 8: billion dollars a day over and Iran. We can't just 574 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,479 Speaker 8: identify it. It has to be eliminated. Putting it up 575 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 8: on a scoreboard and doing nothing about it yield. 576 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: You're going to get no argument for me on the 577 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: idea that eliminating fraud wasting of view should be priority 578 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: won for government. That's period of the story, and hopefully 579 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: it'll work. Wait for it. I don't expect immediate action 580 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: from anybody in government, as much as I would like 581 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: it to happen instantaneously. We live in an instant gratification world. 582 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: Sometimes that are in lies the problem. We expect things 583 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: to happen immediately when it's virtually impossible, giving them problems, 584 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: the hurdles and the impediments and government to make it 585 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: happen immediately, and then when it does happen, the inevitable 586 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: litigation to stop it from happening. So you know this 587 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: is where we find ourselves. Five thirty five, fifty three 588 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: or fifty five cares to the talxtation. Pat's next, Pat, 589 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Morning show and a happy Friday Eve 590 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: to you. 591 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 12: Same to you, Brian with TSA and it's the Coastguard FEMA. 592 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 12: I think secret service. None of them are getting paid. 593 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 12: And all this comes down because the Democrats don't want 594 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 12: while they want illegals to vod and I think that 595 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 12: they should not be getting paid themselves. 596 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: Well we all agree on that one and Pat and 597 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: they have voted on it the other day but it 598 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: didn't go anywhere, so yeah, don't It's the audacity that 599 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: they are getting paid themselves and refusing to pay the 600 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: people who are actually out there working is amazing. And 601 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: the predicate behind it, as you point out, is to 602 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: protect people who are not in this country lawfully and 603 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: who is subject to a detainer order. Look, that's just it. 604 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: This is it. This is where the Democrats are. So 605 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: do you like that? Vote for him? You don't like it, 606 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: you think it's crazy, then don't vote back in office 607 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: and don't make November this sort of historic reality that, 608 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: oh my god, the party in power is going to 609 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: be out of power. Why does that have to be? 610 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,959 Speaker 1: It is not a foregone conclusions or conclusion rather, and 611 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't always happen. So what's more important the American 612 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: people or every other human being on the planet. Democrats 613 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: have raised their hand and already told you which side 614 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: they're on. Five fifty five fifty five kr C the 615 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: talk station five one three, seven, four, nine fifty eight 616 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: two three talk Remember Congressman Warren Davidson at seven oh five, 617 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: Senator Ran Paul seven thirty our favorite well one of 618 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: our favorite lawyers anyway, six or six ifty five gar 619 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: Ce the talk station, Bryan Thomas, wishing every day very 620 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 1: happy Friday Eve and happy Opening Day. I hope you 621 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: win the Reds winning and I hope everything is safe 622 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: for the opening day festivities. A couple of thirty five 623 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: to fifty five Carse Morning Shows seven to five with 624 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: Congressman Warren davids In one hour from now, government ever 625 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: be opened again? Will it? Long lines to the airport's 626 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: course is consequence of the government shut down in Iran 627 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: and on the heels of Pats call the last dar 628 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: I want to address that here in a moment, Senator 629 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: Ran Paul on Iran, his issues with Senator Mark Mullen, 630 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: and well the Senator Paul Penny plan, which is an 631 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: awesome idea. More people should get behind it. We'll talk 632 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: to Senator Paul about that. Seven thirty. Kurt Hartman are 633 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: one of our favorite lawyers. Caught myself there and want 634 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: to I did. I don't want to stole label on 635 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: him because we do have others like Steve Gooden who 636 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: joined the program. But anyway, Kurt's got a lawsuit against 637 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: the Forest Hill School District for refusing to produce its 638 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 1: ICE Action Plan, Immigrting Immigrations and Customs Enforcement Plan. They 639 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: redacted a vast majority or a substantial amount of the 640 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: documents he had requested pursuing to a record's request. We'll 641 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: find out why they have a plan in the first 642 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: place and the status of the lawsuit. Jay Ratliffe I 643 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: heard media aviation expert every Thursday eight thirty looking forward 644 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: to that. He blowed aviation topics, including the wealthy announcement 645 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: yesterday from the TSAC chief that look, if you don't 646 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: get the government back up, and we may very well 647 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: still have to close some airports lines as long as 648 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: four and a half hours and of course ICE agent 649 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: surge has helped to some or ICE agent surge there 650 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: has helped to some degree, obviously has not solved the problem. 651 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: And remember the vinear behind all the government closure is 652 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 1: the Democrats well desired to keep illegal immigrants in our 653 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: country in spite of them being subject to detainer's orders 654 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: and detainer orders, in spite of the fact that most 655 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: of their constituents want the worst to the worst out 656 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: of our country. Going back to the comment I made 657 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 1: earlier in the program, and before I get to Bobby, Bobby, 658 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: bear with me on this one, because it was Pat's 659 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 1: call that made me want to get this Carl Rove 660 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: comments and observations about the upcoming November election. Of course, 661 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: remember you party in power usually loses in November election. 662 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: Does it have to be that way? Well, if you 663 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: don't like the government being shut down, you think that 664 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: that the Democrats are really being very unfair, not just 665 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: the American people generally speaking, notably the traveling American people, 666 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: but to the ICE agents specifically. They're not getting paid 667 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: that and not all of them are engaged in enforcement 668 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: actions against illegal immigrants. Anyway, Rowe points out the outcome 669 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: of the midterms largely depends on the popularity of the 670 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: present of President Trump, his job of approval, and the 671 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 1: Real Clear Politics average not good. Only forty one point 672 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: three percent fifty six point three disapproved President's approval number 673 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: this low n't really precede as significant loss of the House, 674 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: but Trump's popularity isn't the only consequential number. Get a 675 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: load of this. This speaks volumes. I think the Real 676 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: Clear Politics average has the Democrat Party at thirty five 677 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: point eight favorable fifty five to seven unfavorable. The Republican 678 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: Party is doing better thirty nine three two fifty three 679 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:33,919 Speaker 1: nine favorable unfavorable. How about that, we asked rhetorically, Carl does, 680 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: how did how did the Democrats become less popular than 681 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: mister Trump? It took many years, much hard work, wacky 682 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: political stanzas, and plenty of missteps. Even the RCP generic 683 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 1: House ballot is a problem for Democratic Party, and he 684 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: points out the you know, the the solid dams, the 685 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: the the the flux seats ones that are up for grabs. 686 00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 1: This prognosticator suggests there are seventeen districts that are toss up, 687 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: thirteen held by Republicans, four by Dems. On top of 688 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 1: those thirteen seats held by Dems, two by Republicans that 689 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: lean blew, there's one Democrat and three Republican seats that 690 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,919 Speaker 1: lean read. Okay, there's all your geography and the math 691 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: on this. Not a lot of targets overall for Democrats. 692 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: If they swept all thirty nine at risk seats, that 693 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: will translate to a gain of twenty one, about half 694 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: of the forty one seat boosts they saw in twenty eighteen. 695 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: So bad doesn't necessarily have to be as bad as 696 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: before given the math on this one, He points out 697 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: Congressional Democrats aren't doing much to advance their cause. Their 698 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 1: quote unquote affordability agenda is an amorphous afterthought. Many Democratic 699 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,720 Speaker 1: candidates act as if trashing Trump is all they need 700 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: to do. That's status quote for the Democrats now for 701 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: how many years? The public also increasingly blames Democrats for 702 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: the federal government shutdown. This is my point to pat 703 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 1: air travelers standing in line for hours to get through 704 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: security wish a pox on all politicians, but the Democratic 705 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 1: insistence that no funding for immigration and customs enforcement is 706 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: playing to the base. It led a senior House Democrat 707 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: Virginia's Don Bayer to concede. The tactic isn't forcing any 708 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,479 Speaker 1: changes en quote. In the meantime, we're making people hurt 709 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 1: close quote not supposed to say that part out loud. Don. 710 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,760 Speaker 1: Democrats missed an offer MP during Mark Wayne Mullen's confirmation 711 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 1: hearing for Homeland Security Secretary. Democrats could have pressed him 712 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,760 Speaker 1: to negotiate in good faith on specific changes they wanted. 713 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 1: This would have given Americans a better idea of the Democrats' demands, 714 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: the reason they have to wait in those interminable tsa lines. 715 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: If mister Mulden refused to negotiate, Democrats could have voted 716 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,240 Speaker 1: against him and had a better argument to make to voters. 717 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: If he did negotiate, they might have gotten much of 718 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 1: what they wanted. Instead, they look in transient to make 719 00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: things worse. Leading Democrats keep saying foolish things like in 720 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: public governor the Avenue, some claim California. This is hilarious. 721 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,839 Speaker 1: California is a lower tax state than Texas or Florida. Yeah, 722 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 1: tell that to all the tax refugees leaving the Golden State. 723 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: Governor Kathy Hoak will run in twenty twenty two for it. 724 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 1: Told New York Republicans to just jump on a bus 725 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 1: and head down to Florida where you belong. Okay, get 726 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,439 Speaker 1: out of town. That's an actual quote. Last week, though, 727 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: she said she's looking for people with a high net 728 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: worth to quote support the generous social programs. Close quote 729 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: of New York. She said, maybe the first step should 730 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 1: be to go down to Palm Beach and see who 731 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: you could bring back home. Miss Locle may have discovered 732 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 1: it was a mistake to raise taxes, but her answer 733 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 1: isn't to cut them a restrainings, a cut in restrain spending. 734 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 1: It's to fined what she calls patriotic millionaires who are 735 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: willing to move back north. Good luck with that. Even 736 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 1: with all that going on against Democrats, Republicans have to 737 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: up their and soon. The off year and special elections 738 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 1: have been awful for the GOP doesn't have to be, though. 739 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: The White House is counting on a successful end of 740 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 1: the Iranian conflict in a booming economy with dropping inflation 741 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,280 Speaker 1: in the third quarter. That's a big ask, isn't it. 742 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 1: If these don't materialize, and the latter Rove observes is unlikely. 743 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: In other words, dropping inflation, the GOB will be left 744 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:31,439 Speaker 1: to hope. Democrats keep providing vivid contrast points that drive 745 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 1: swing voters right ward. Democrats are doing their part to 746 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 1: advance the GOP cause it's time for Republicans to do theirs, 747 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,799 Speaker 1: and that's where everyone comes in. We learn from this 748 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 1: from Donovan and Neil Americans for Prosperity. You need to 749 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: keep pointing this out. That's the door knocking campaign they 750 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,760 Speaker 1: go into. You knock on somebody's door. It's that chain 751 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: of what government does and how it impacts you. Are 752 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: you aware of why the government shut down? Let's walk 753 00:41:55,640 --> 00:42:01,240 Speaker 1: through the reasons why. When you explain that to voters 754 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: who might not be paying attention to the secuitest path 755 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,240 Speaker 1: of their pain leading back to government actions most notally 756 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: brought to you by the Democrats, you might not have 757 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 1: them motivated to go out and vote in November. Screw 758 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: all of them. What's the point no convince people going 759 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: door to door With AFP's assessance, they make it very easy, 760 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 1: going door to door and reminding folks why it is. 761 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 1: Whatever pain they're experiencing can go back to the Democrats 762 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: and why it is. The Republicans have some perhaps response 763 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: and plan to ease that pain and relieve us from 764 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,839 Speaker 1: the pains that government has inflicted upon us. Bobby, thanks 765 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: for holding while I ranted a little bit, and thanks 766 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: again to Carl Road for providing some fodder for that. 767 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 1: Good to hear from you, Bobby. Happy Friday Eve and 768 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:44,839 Speaker 1: happy Opening Day. 769 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 11: Well, happy Opening Day to you too, my friend. I'll 770 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 11: tell you what Saints Flag family, But the thing about 771 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,439 Speaker 11: it is it is handicapped. 772 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 2: Thursday. 773 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,320 Speaker 1: Oh that's right, Every Thursday, Bobby joins the program to 774 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: provide us his thoughts and insights on the high low 775 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 1: on number of shootings in downtown Cincinnati. Proper Bobby, your prediction? 776 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 1: And are you going to place a bet on one 777 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,240 Speaker 1: of the gambling sites on this one? 778 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 11: No, sir, I won't be placing a bit. Oh, I'm 779 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 11: doing just wishing for the law enforcement to take care 780 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 11: of the problems that are coming out this weekend. And 781 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 11: we got it at four and a half with the 782 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 11: weather being nice, even though it's going to rain. We 783 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 11: still think the stabbings, the shootings and all the other 784 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 11: violence will be at four and a half. 785 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,800 Speaker 1: Four point five, now the clock starts running in your prediction, 786 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 1: that's a Friday through Sunday. Clock right correct, Okay, so 787 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,399 Speaker 1: not running yet, place your bets before midnight tonight four 788 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: point five? Are you over under or how do you 789 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 1: end up with half a shooting Bobby? 790 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,879 Speaker 11: Well, we take the over and we've been. 791 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 1: Right about every time I know, Bobby. I'm just kidding 792 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 1: her out, all right. Place your bet. Bobby's at four 793 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,320 Speaker 1: and a half and he's been pretty close to accurate. 794 00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,320 Speaker 1: You have a great one, Bobby, Pleasure hearing from you. 795 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 1: Sixteen right now fifty about Krseed talk station. Get in 796 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 1: touch with fast and pro roof in that winner the 797 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: talk station six twenty Here fifty by KARSD talk Station. 798 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: Happy Friday. Eve got colors from all over this morning. 799 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 1: It's just putting a big smile on my face. From 800 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:20,800 Speaker 1: Paris to Cleveland to Connecticut. We have a Punter Gorda, Florida, 801 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,400 Speaker 1: and good morning to Steve in Punter Gorda listening and 802 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 1: real quick here before I get to Mississippi. James, Wow, 803 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 1: we are so nationwide today, worldwide. My wife responded, who 804 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,320 Speaker 1: is a healthcare attorney and she has been so since 805 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,720 Speaker 1: well basically she got out of law school. In essence, 806 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,799 Speaker 1: talking about Jay's comment about Jadvan's not going fast enough 807 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: or quickly enough for him. In terms of dealing with fraud, 808 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: most nobly medical fraud. My wife point I listened. I 809 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 1: received daily feeds from the American Health Law Association that 810 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,240 Speaker 1: discusses what CMS is doing to ferret out the fraud. 811 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,840 Speaker 1: Here's your problem, Jay, the Blue states like California drag 812 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 1: their feet, and when the funds are held back, the 813 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,760 Speaker 1: states sue to get their money. So there's your slow 814 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: wheels of justice to get to the end of that result. 815 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 1: Before you start getting getting the information so you can 816 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 1: find the fraud. The moratorium on new DMEs, gurbal medical 817 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: equipment outfits, and that's a lot of fraud there too, 818 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: does not help with current fraudulent entities. CMS contracts with 819 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:19,279 Speaker 1: the state Department of Health who have limited staff to investigate. 820 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 1: Going back to the problems maybe we have here in 821 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 1: Ohio not enough resources directed toward fraud, same old stuff, 822 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,879 Speaker 1: different day. It takes time to investigate and shut down 823 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 1: the fraudulent entities. She says. You know my frustration with 824 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: a good corporate citizen complying with the regulations and how 825 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: the states just don't pay attention to the fraud. In 826 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 1: other words, I read from that Jdvans only can do 827 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 1: so much. The states must cooperate without the state's cooperation, 828 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 1: and quite often they're incentivized to not cooperate. See Minnesota, 829 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 1: which is set up to be I guess a soft 830 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 1: target for fraud so you can easily get away with it. 831 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,240 Speaker 1: You're not going to be able to deal with the fraud, 832 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 1: wasted abuse very quickly. So thank you Paul for chiming 833 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 1: in on that, and I appreciate you listening and love you, honey. 834 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 1: Let's go to Mississippi. James James, welcome back, my friend. 835 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,240 Speaker 1: Good to hear from you this morning. 836 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 5: Good morning, doctor Brian. I come in peace, love everybody. 837 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 5: There's nothing you can do about it. 838 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 1: Good attitude. 839 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 5: Hey you know that metaphor the Emperor has no clothes. 840 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 1: Yes, I do. 841 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 5: Hey, that's beginning to fit society as a whole. And 842 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 5: we're gonna need the kids that used to come in 843 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,240 Speaker 5: and look at it and say, hey, it's just nicked. 844 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 5: It's nicked. Let's deal with what it is. 845 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 2: Yeah with us. 846 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 5: Adn't we done got indoctrinated, We done dug in, sized 847 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 5: up and everything is and yeah, have no clothes on? 848 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no I'm with you all day long day, 849 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 1: and let's just use the illustration Donald Trump. It's a 850 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: great example. You have folks on the right the they 851 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 1: call them maga, and I understand that Donald Trump can 852 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: literally do no rock. They're blind to some legitimate criticism 853 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,400 Speaker 1: of the man. In the minute anybody raises any criticism, 854 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: you're already labeled some kind of commie socialist Kamala Harris 855 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,440 Speaker 1: or Gavin Newsom want to be or something. I received 856 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 1: criticism along those lines all the time. I try to 857 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,839 Speaker 1: be sort of Switzerland with my assessment of people and things. Generally, yes, 858 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 1: he does wonderful things, and I think we're moving in 859 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 1: the right direction yet, but there's a room for criticism. 860 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 1: Of course. On the other side, they got Trump Arrangement syndrome. 861 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 1: Anything Donald Trump does, it's immediately no. That's terrible. In 862 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,240 Speaker 1: spite of the fact they refuse to analyze what exactly 863 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 1: he wants to do. Any capitulation or agreement with Trump, 864 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:34,359 Speaker 1: they are immediately ostracized by their own people. Right, maybe 865 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,720 Speaker 1: the emperor doesn't have any clothes and it requires someone 866 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 1: objective to say whoa whoa, whoa whoa. You guys are 867 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:43,400 Speaker 1: arguing amongst themselves over stupid points. What about this. Let's 868 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,359 Speaker 1: look at this specific illustration and let's find fault with it. 869 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,439 Speaker 1: Let's praise it, but at least let's break it down 870 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 1: logically and reasonably and not go apoplect that can start 871 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 1: pulling our hair out and balling up at a fetal 872 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 1: position because well, evil orange man or something. You're right, James, 873 00:47:59,280 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 1: and you. 874 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,919 Speaker 5: Know that job is left to you and I brouh. 875 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 1: I'll take it, James, you and your brother, We're marching 876 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 1: towards the truth. Happy to go there. You keep up 877 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,280 Speaker 1: the good work, James. Thank you very much for calling 878 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 1: up this morning, six twenty five, Right now fifty five 879 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 1: car Seed talk station, Local stories, your calls anyway you 880 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 1: want to go okay with me. The first suggestion to 881 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,880 Speaker 1: call QC Cannet be talk station six nine if you 882 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,759 Speaker 1: can have KRCD talk station now. Word in from my 883 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,360 Speaker 1: favorite pattern observer Maureene, who is on her way to 884 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 1: uh or on our way to rs W and Fort 885 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,760 Speaker 1: Myers listening in the I Heart Media app. Good morning, Maureene, 886 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,359 Speaker 1: and thanks for tuning in. I always appreciate your chiming in. 887 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 1: I got local stories in front of you. You can feel 888 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 1: free to chime in right now call me five one 889 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 1: three seven fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two 890 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,520 Speaker 1: to three talk contract fifty on at and T phones, 891 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,719 Speaker 1: iHeartMedia app over at fifty five krs dot com at 892 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 1: the podcast page so you two can listen live wherever 893 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:52,799 Speaker 1: you happen to be. 894 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 5: So. 895 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 1: One person injured after a shooting at West Price Sill 896 00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 1: Wednesday night. Joe noted that that was a fifty to 897 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,840 Speaker 1: seventy percent and AFTAB purval and current council makeup status quo. 898 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,760 Speaker 1: Elections have consequences, not that maybe the election would have 899 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 1: done had any impact on this. One happened just before 900 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 1: eleven pm forty one hundred block of West eighth. Officers 901 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,399 Speaker 1: found when they got there one person with non life 902 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,280 Speaker 1: threatening gunshot wound. Police said no information on a suspect 903 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,320 Speaker 1: of this time. Cause of the shooting unknown investigation ongoing 904 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 1: crime stoppers three five two thirty forty. Let's see here. 905 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 1: One person injured in a shooting yesterday Wardall Avenue, Westwood, 906 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 1: seventy one eighty four percent AFTAB and current council Thanks, 907 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 1: Joe Thorty said. The victim a man, taken to the 908 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 1: hospital with non life threatening injuries after being struck in 909 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 1: the leg. Unclear whether the police have a suspect at 910 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 1: this time. I mentioned crime Stoppers three five two thirty forty. 911 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 1: We got a West Price Hill where a woman's been 912 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 1: arrested and facing now several charges. Prosecutors say she assaulted 913 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 1: a thirteen year old kid who suffered a fracture. This 914 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 1: from announcement from the Hamlin County Prosecutor's office. Police arrested 915 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 1: twenty nine year old Adrianna and Napier, charging her with 916 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,799 Speaker 1: an aging Children floidas, assault, strangulation, and domestic violence. She 917 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,759 Speaker 1: pleaded not guilty. Yesterday morning, prosecutor say January sixteen, at 918 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,239 Speaker 1: a West Price Hill home, Napier became upset with a 919 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,360 Speaker 1: thirteen year old after the child did not do household chores. 920 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 1: Napier then hit the child with a belt and a 921 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 1: curtain rod. Joe, I think we have an award to 922 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 1: give out this morning, causing multiple injuries, including a fracture. 923 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 1: Napier also allegedly punched, bit and strangled the child. According 924 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,720 Speaker 1: to the prosecutor's child ran from the house. Neighbors contacted 925 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 1: emergency services prosecutors said the child was taken us in 926 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: Saint Children's Hospital for treatment. Court records indicate Judge Allen 927 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:51,440 Speaker 1: Triggs ruled Napier would be given an own recognizance bond, 928 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 1: in other words, not being held in jail at a monetary bond. However, 929 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 1: she is scheduled for arrangement in March twenty seven that 930 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 1: bond to change. What was that comment, Joe, who's the 931 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,280 Speaker 1: award for the judge of the person? That's a legitimate question, 932 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 1: Connie Pilach, you haven't kind of prosecutor said, the allegations 933 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,359 Speaker 1: in this case are deeply disturbing and reflect a level 934 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 1: of violence that no child should ever experienced. We will 935 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 1: pursue these charges aggressively and seek accountability. I commend the 936 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,279 Speaker 1: neighbor who took action to protect the child. Napier for 937 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 1: her part, if convicted on all charges, could spend up 938 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 1: to fifteen years in prison. Jeez, about one hundred thousand 939 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,080 Speaker 1: Fred's fans going to be going downtown on the banks 940 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 1: for the opening day festivities. Be ever vigilant. That's an 941 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,400 Speaker 1: interjection for me. Not alexis smarting. Reporting from Fox nineteen 942 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:49,880 Speaker 1: about security security which is reported will not be enforcing 943 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:55,279 Speaker 1: the typical curfew age requirement. Courted Tracy Schwegman, Fans under 944 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 1: the age of twenty one will be allowed to hang 945 00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,799 Speaker 1: out in the plaza of the banks for opening day. 946 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,920 Speaker 1: Banks Representative Shrugman says it's not realistic to impede the 947 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 1: flow pedestrian traffick and assess the area where tens of 948 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 1: thousands of people are going to be walking around. However, 949 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 1: the bars will continue, of course, enforcing ID checks. In April, 950 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,359 Speaker 1: businesses at the banks took steps to implement an age 951 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,239 Speaker 1: requirement during the evenings and weekends through the safety concerns 952 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,040 Speaker 1: those times between ten pm and two am. That's the 953 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,880 Speaker 1: demilitarized zone that they put around the door. I think 954 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 1: if people under the age of twenty one are going 955 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 1: to going to and from the Reds game after opening Day, 956 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 1: they're going to need to be a companied by someone 957 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 1: twenty one and over. Banks continued his policy in November 958 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 1: after the Board of Trustees of the bank's Community Authority 959 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 1: approved an allocation of fifty thousand dollars from their reserves. 960 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,640 Speaker 1: In September, since a curfew does remain in place corning 961 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 1: to Mali Lair with the city. She says nine pm 962 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,480 Speaker 1: curfew for unaccompanied minors in the special curfew district is 963 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 1: in effect. That sounds like contradictory information for me. Let's 964 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,359 Speaker 1: go to the phone see what Stee's got. Steve, Welcome 965 00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,280 Speaker 1: to the Morning Show. Thanks for calling in. Happy Friday 966 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:00,919 Speaker 1: Eve to you. 967 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 13: You're one of your favorite days of the week, only 968 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:04,840 Speaker 13: surpassed by the actual Friday. 969 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,279 Speaker 1: I got that right, I got that right. See, my 970 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 1: mood just changes. It's almost as magic. It's like a 971 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,319 Speaker 1: weight's lifted off my shoulders just with the mere mention 972 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:13,280 Speaker 1: of the word Friday. 973 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 13: You know, and I know you're forced to be up 974 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,920 Speaker 13: to date on the news and everything, and we all, 975 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 13: you know, we all have to watch what's going on 976 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 13: to be aware of it and everything. But just to 977 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 13: step back from that, what a wonderful time of year 978 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,279 Speaker 13: this is. I mean, it's my favorite time is when 979 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 13: the grass is really turning green. It's got that really 980 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:35,759 Speaker 13: alive look to it, the trees are coming back and everything. 981 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,319 Speaker 13: And being the husband and not the wife, we've got 982 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,759 Speaker 13: a couple of tropical plants that we bring from the 983 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:47,479 Speaker 13: deck into the house to survive the winter time. Yeah, 984 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 13: and any frost will kill them. I mean, you know, 985 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 13: I mean, I've heard you got what twenty nine degrees 986 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,360 Speaker 13: you said Friday night or something. I've got to be 987 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 13: careful about that. But being the husband, I insisted on 988 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,320 Speaker 13: bringing them all out onto the deck a couple of 989 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,440 Speaker 13: weeks ago, and I've been bringing them back and forth. 990 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,040 Speaker 13: So I should have listened to my wife. But you know, 991 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:11,399 Speaker 13: you know how that goes. Oh, if I can mention 992 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:15,280 Speaker 13: one other thing. I live in Independence and maybe about 993 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,600 Speaker 13: five times we've had people knock on our door for 994 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,640 Speaker 13: Thomas Massey and they're reps for him, and that's fine. 995 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 13: But I actually had the other day a candidate for 996 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:33,839 Speaker 13: the Kentucky House of Representatives in this district himself come 997 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,439 Speaker 13: to our door and knock on it. Wow, and man, 998 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,760 Speaker 13: I really have And I told them this, I said, 999 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,759 Speaker 13: I really have to, you know, applaud you for as 1000 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,520 Speaker 13: the candidate doing this. It's not easy to walk up 1001 00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,360 Speaker 13: and down the street and knock on doors. And I 1002 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 13: just thought, you know, I mean that just really I 1003 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,719 Speaker 13: don't know about you. That impresses me to no end. 1004 00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 13: Occasionally we've had City of Independence soule people knock on 1005 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 13: the door, but usually it's a REP on their behalf 1006 00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 13: helping them out. But just really, you know, I had 1007 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 13: a nice conversation with the guy. I really did and 1008 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 13: applauded him, and I'll look into it, and you know, 1009 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 13: he's probably the one I'm going to vote for because 1010 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:18,000 Speaker 13: I'm not too happy with my rep that we've got 1011 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:18,600 Speaker 13: right now here. 1012 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,279 Speaker 1: You go in there for you got to vote by 1013 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 1: doing a door to door knock yourself there. Yeah, that 1014 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,439 Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, that means a lot. And I would 1015 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,200 Speaker 1: be impressed if the Democrat knocked on my door or 1016 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:26,800 Speaker 1: a Republican. 1017 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,279 Speaker 2: If it's that absolutely absolutely. 1018 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 1: There will I would take the question. So yeah, Jay 1019 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:35,879 Speaker 1: Ratliffe coming up eight thirty. 1020 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,080 Speaker 2: Yes, I love it. 1021 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 13: He's fantastic every week. 1022 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,480 Speaker 1: I'm glad you like it. Steve, I'm looking for it 1023 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,399 Speaker 1: as well. You have a wonderful day. Mike's on the phone. 1024 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:43,800 Speaker 1: Hang on, Mike, I get your call right out of 1025 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 1: the gate at six thirty six, right now, and I 1026 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 1: want to mention cross Country Mortgage at six forty one 1027 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:50,960 Speaker 1: on a Thursday, Happy one to you. Coming up after 1028 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 1: top of the hour news Congressman Warren Davidson Lloyd, Don't 1029 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 1: we have a lot to talk about with him, and 1030 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,319 Speaker 1: of course Senator Ran Paul at seven thirty five one 1031 00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,480 Speaker 1: three seven nine fifty five hundred eight hundred eight two 1032 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,799 Speaker 1: three talking promise, Mike, thanks for holding over the breake. 1033 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. 1034 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,000 Speaker 10: Hey, Brian, uh, real quick about their Uh? I guess 1035 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,840 Speaker 10: they called a curfew for the during the end of 1036 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 10: the banks, I get to be accompanied by an adult during Yeah, 1037 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:17,399 Speaker 10: they're pouring after the games. So if there's over fifty 1038 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,640 Speaker 10: thousand fans that gonna be down there for this, they're 1039 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:20,399 Speaker 10: not going to do it. 1040 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:20,799 Speaker 1: Right. 1041 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,120 Speaker 10: So if the Reds start doing really good and we 1042 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,080 Speaker 10: start selling that every game, there's gonna go this out 1043 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:25,480 Speaker 10: the window. 1044 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,920 Speaker 1: I suppose one could reach that conclusion because the same 1045 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 1: issue I suppose would show up. Although since there's no 1046 00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,400 Speaker 1: opening day parade for all the other games, there are 1047 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,399 Speaker 1: obviously going to be a lot fewer people down there, 1048 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,080 Speaker 1: but a capacity crowd at a great American ballpark, yeah, 1049 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,839 Speaker 1: might give rise to the same thing I mean they're 1050 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 1: not doing. 1051 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,879 Speaker 10: They're han't really sold out a game, and how many 1052 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,240 Speaker 10: step in the opening day right, secial? 1053 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:55,960 Speaker 1: But maybe if a game is sold out, Yes, if 1054 00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,840 Speaker 1: the Reds do so well that they start selling out games. 1055 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 1: That's a big if, Mike, Well, we'll cross that bridge 1056 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:03,840 Speaker 1: or they'll cross that bridge when we get to it, 1057 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 1: but it will be a comical thing to observe one 1058 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,239 Speaker 1: way or another. Appreciate that speaking get a comical and 1059 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,719 Speaker 1: last night's empower You sevenar from Tom hagget Or, who 1060 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 1: was on my show yesterday. You can listen to the 1061 00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,880 Speaker 1: podcast or go back to empower Youoamerica dot org and 1062 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,479 Speaker 1: want and listen to what he had to say about 1063 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 1: the socialist efforts to change America, of course, predicated largely 1064 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,439 Speaker 1: on their indoctrination of our young people in K through 1065 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:28,320 Speaker 1: twelve education. Here's an illustration of this. So last Thursday, 1066 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:34,080 Speaker 1: an eighteen year old loyal at University student Chicago, Sheridan Gorman, 1067 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,960 Speaker 1: shot and killed near the campus. It was confirmed on 1068 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,440 Speaker 1: Sunday the mass gunman who killed Gorman twenty five year 1069 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,440 Speaker 1: old illegal alien from Venezuela and entered the United States 1070 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 1: and the Biden administration. Of course, police took him into custody. 1071 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 1: Loyal A campus newspaper, The Phoenix provided coverage for this. 1072 00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 1: Initially in the accurate reporting they first let a released 1073 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:04,480 Speaker 1: headline imigrant man charged in murder of Sheridan Gorman DHS involved. 1074 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,960 Speaker 1: The original posts also referred to him in the body 1075 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,520 Speaker 1: of the article reporting on it as an illegal immigrant. 1076 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:13,240 Speaker 1: Factually accurate, it was, but they got backlash, of course 1077 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 1: they did. Student newspaper then edited the post to remove 1078 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 1: the term illegal immigrant and then issued an apology which 1079 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 1: was longer than the original reporting article. Now they refer 1080 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 1: to him as a Rogers Park resident. That's a neighborhood 1081 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 1: in Chicago where the Loyal main campus is located. Roger 1082 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,000 Speaker 1: Park resident. Oh, that guy had nothing to do with 1083 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:33,960 Speaker 1: illegal immigant. He should have been here in the first place. 1084 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:39,680 Speaker 1: So here's the editor's note, talk about an illustration of 1085 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,640 Speaker 1: woke reality. On March twenty, third day post on The 1086 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 1: Phoenix's Instagram page carried the following headline immigrant man charged 1087 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:54,280 Speaker 1: in murder of Sheridan Gorman DHS involved. The headline didn't 1088 00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:59,400 Speaker 1: reflect the most important elements in the story, and it 1089 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,400 Speaker 1: was taken down minutes later to prevent any further harm 1090 00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:07,320 Speaker 1: to affected community members. I had a pause on that one. 1091 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 1: Can I ask in what way, shape, or First off, 1092 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,920 Speaker 1: who in the hell is an affected community member? In 1093 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 1: what way, shape, or form is reporting accurately, so that 1094 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:21,439 Speaker 1: he was in the country illegally. How does that impact anybody? 1095 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:26,960 Speaker 1: They're not arrested. They didn't murder someone, you know, I 1096 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,680 Speaker 1: mean if somebody, if some white guy out there guns 1097 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,200 Speaker 1: down someone else, Am I part of the affected community 1098 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,960 Speaker 1: because I also happen to be white. No, I'm not 1099 00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:39,640 Speaker 1: impacted in any way, shape or form. This is just nonsense, 1100 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,800 Speaker 1: they went on. Additionally, in the body of the original posts, 1101 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,200 Speaker 1: we described a man who was charged as an illegal 1102 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,200 Speaker 1: immigrant using language provided by the Department of Homeland Security. 1103 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:54,040 Speaker 1: That language does not align with Associated Press style, nor 1104 00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,040 Speaker 1: does it align with the values of the newspaper. Since 1105 00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 1: when does Associated press dictate what you report in any 1106 00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,080 Speaker 1: given newspaper? First me, I meant much and say whatever 1107 01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,240 Speaker 1: the hell you want. And since one is a newspaper, 1108 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 1: admit that it is not reporting all the facts or 1109 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:12,320 Speaker 1: we know, maybe recharacterizing them. I think the American public 1110 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:16,000 Speaker 1: clamors wants to know who's responsible for crime. Of course, 1111 01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,600 Speaker 1: it's big behind the reason for deportation. We have a 1112 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,680 Speaker 1: lot of illegal immigrants, not all of them, but a 1113 01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,160 Speaker 1: lot of them commit crime. That's kind of the demarcation 1114 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 1: point for folks. Everybody wants illegal immigrants out of our 1115 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,160 Speaker 1: country who are committing or have committed crimes. That's a 1116 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:37,439 Speaker 1: no brain winning political issue. Kick out the bad guys. 1117 01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,840 Speaker 1: And it's important to look at where you get your information. 1118 01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 1: Six forty six. It was kind of a point Daniel 1119 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:49,240 Speaker 1: Davis made last time we talked to him on the 1120 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 1: talk station six fifty coming up with a six fifty 1121 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:54,800 Speaker 1: one fifty five Kerr CD talk station, got a couple 1122 01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,400 Speaker 1: of callers online, and to go there before we get 1123 01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,600 Speaker 1: to the top of our news and Congressman Warren David 1124 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,480 Speaker 1: said at seven oh five start with has been on 1125 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,240 Speaker 1: the line longer, Todd, Welcome to the show. Thanks for 1126 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:02,760 Speaker 1: calling today. 1127 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:05,080 Speaker 6: Hey, good morning, Brian. 1128 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:06,120 Speaker 2: Real quick. 1129 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 6: On that Loyola story, I think it's there's a little 1130 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:14,640 Speaker 6: bit of a bigger issue there. Since when does the 1131 01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:19,720 Speaker 6: college newspaper cow tow and walk in perfect lockstep with 1132 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:25,200 Speaker 6: the university administration. I mean, it's not that long ago. 1133 01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,360 Speaker 6: Well it's been a while since I've been in college, 1134 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,720 Speaker 6: but I remember, you know, back late seventies, early eighties, 1135 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,720 Speaker 6: you know, the student newspaper was quite often at odds 1136 01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,840 Speaker 6: with the administration, right and if they would and if 1137 01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,400 Speaker 6: they would have said you need to change that headline 1138 01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,640 Speaker 6: like your dad used to say, I got two words 1139 01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,200 Speaker 6: for you, and they ain't happy birthdays. 1140 01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,080 Speaker 1: And they should have reported on that. You know, after 1141 01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,200 Speaker 1: getting receiving pressure from the university, we are standing and 1142 01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,160 Speaker 1: sticking with our guns because the reporting was accurate. We 1143 01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,360 Speaker 1: will not be told how to report by anyone. That's 1144 01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,480 Speaker 1: the bright response. There you go, Todd. 1145 01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:03,560 Speaker 6: And if they were they objected to the term illegal alien, 1146 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,760 Speaker 6: then you could say a criminal alien who is in 1147 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 6: the country illegally committed this crime, and then you don't 1148 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:17,080 Speaker 6: need to put up with well, no person is illegal excuses. 1149 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:20,560 Speaker 1: A person who is a resident of Venezuela came into 1150 01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:24,120 Speaker 1: our country in violation of America's border laws and stayed 1151 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,840 Speaker 1: here without permission, killed somebody on a loyal of campus. 1152 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,760 Speaker 1: There you go, appreciated Todd at observation. Yeah, you're right. 1153 01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,800 Speaker 1: Campus papers are supposed to go after the administration. I thought, Maureene, 1154 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,040 Speaker 1: welcome to the show. I thought you were on an airplane, Maureene, 1155 01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:38,840 Speaker 1: good to hear from you. 1156 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,120 Speaker 14: No, I was on my way to the airport. I'm 1157 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,960 Speaker 14: going to give you a full report. But yeah, all 1158 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,080 Speaker 14: the TSA engines showed up. It's great. I got through 1159 01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:51,320 Speaker 14: the line in three minutes and there was only one 1160 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,800 Speaker 14: ICE agent but the rest were regular TSA. So things 1161 01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,440 Speaker 14: are looking good. But I am four hours before in 1162 01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,760 Speaker 14: my flight, so that might have something. 1163 01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,360 Speaker 1: So you heeded the warning and got there four hours 1164 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,160 Speaker 1: ahead of time, only to find out that there is 1165 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:09,520 Speaker 1: no delay. That's okay. Better safe than sorry, Mary, Right, yeah. 1166 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,040 Speaker 14: Yeah, exactly. So it looks good, but it could because 1167 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,720 Speaker 14: it's really so don't don't wait till last minute if 1168 01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:15,560 Speaker 14: you're traveling today. 1169 01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,240 Speaker 1: I've been to that and I'm sure that I heart me. 1170 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,320 Speaker 1: The aviation for j. RATLFF will double down on that 1171 01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:23,000 Speaker 1: recommendation when he saw at eight thirty morene no conspiracy 1172 01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,800 Speaker 1: theories or patterns observations this morning, Marine. 1173 01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:27,760 Speaker 3: Actually I do. 1174 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,720 Speaker 14: Have one, and this one's before it actually happens. I 1175 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,360 Speaker 14: think what's going to happen is we're going to see 1176 01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:37,480 Speaker 14: TSA and or not TSA, but ICE and National Guard 1177 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,920 Speaker 14: at the polling stations in the midterms. 1178 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,120 Speaker 1: Well that's my prediction, all right. 1179 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,800 Speaker 14: I think this is to normalize us to it, and 1180 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,680 Speaker 14: it's okay, So whatever it takes. 1181 01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,280 Speaker 1: Well, I just hope it's not the last step before 1182 01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,520 Speaker 1: martial law is declared or something along those lines. Mareene, 1183 01:03:55,640 --> 01:04:00,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I know you do. Anyway, 1184 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,720 Speaker 1: do you think the Iranians are calling Donald Trump's bluff? 1185 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:05,480 Speaker 1: He's been putting more and more troops over in the 1186 01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:11,120 Speaker 1: in the region, thousands of additional soldiers. House speaker Carolyn 1187 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 1: Levitt yesterday saying Iran shannams calculate again senior leadership, their navy, 1188 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,400 Speaker 1: their air force, and their air defense system, pointing out 1189 01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,400 Speaker 1: that they well are not there anymore. If they fail 1190 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,680 Speaker 1: to understand that they have been defeated militarily and will 1191 01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,800 Speaker 1: continue to be. She said, President Trump will ensure that 1192 01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,680 Speaker 1: they are hit harder than they have ever been hit before. 1193 01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:37,600 Speaker 1: President Trump does not bluff, and he's prepared to unleash hell. Well, 1194 01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,160 Speaker 1: I seems to me I have heard statements to that 1195 01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,320 Speaker 1: effect before, only for them to be, you know, to 1196 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,960 Speaker 1: back off. American public is not in for a ground 1197 01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:49,000 Speaker 1: troop invasion of Iran, and the complications associated with that 1198 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:56,120 Speaker 1: are profound. But since the Iranians obviously have intelligence and 1199 01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,800 Speaker 1: to some degree, you know, and they know how this 1200 01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:04,200 Speaker 1: war has complicated Donald Trump's efforts as he moves into November. 1201 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,439 Speaker 1: It's had an inflationary impact on all Americans. The price 1202 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,280 Speaker 1: gasoline obviously has gone up substantially in a moment's time. 1203 01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,120 Speaker 1: That's going to have a profound ripple effect on food prices. 1204 01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,800 Speaker 1: So this whole affordability thing is going to be compounded 1205 01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,720 Speaker 1: as we move toward November. A resolution of the war 1206 01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,600 Speaker 1: would probably solve some of those problems for Donald Trump. 1207 01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:23,880 Speaker 1: So of course he wants a quick resolution in his favor. 1208 01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 1: But if the Iranians realize this and know they've kind 1209 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,400 Speaker 1: of got Donald Trump backed into the wall, and of 1210 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,640 Speaker 1: course they're willing to sacrifice their own army and their 1211 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:37,000 Speaker 1: own population, I can see him doing it just for 1212 01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,400 Speaker 1: the sake of doing it. Six point fifty five. We'll 1213 01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,000 Speaker 1: see what Congressman Warren Davidson has on that theory, among 1214 01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:43,560 Speaker 1: other things. After the top of the air news fall 1215 01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:47,360 Speaker 1: by Seat seven oh five at fifty five Krosit Talk Station. 1216 01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,960 Speaker 1: I'm very happy Friday, EPA, Happy Opening Day, Go Reds. 1217 01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,080 Speaker 1: Be careful down there for the opening day parade in 1218 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,800 Speaker 1: the game. Welcome back to the fifty five Cassee Morning Show, 1219 01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:57,920 Speaker 1: Congressman Warren Davidson. Great to have you on on the 1220 01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 1: program here this opening day. Congressman Davidson walk, I'm. 1221 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,720 Speaker 5: Back, so he's an honor to join you. 1222 01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,320 Speaker 1: Thanks, Brian, Appreciate everything you do, sir, Appreciate the time 1223 01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,200 Speaker 1: he said with my listeners and me. And can you 1224 01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,200 Speaker 1: answer the question the government is still shut down last 1225 01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,600 Speaker 1: time I checked, Congressman Davidson. Of course, my friend Maureen 1226 01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,320 Speaker 1: didn't have to deal with the line in Florida for 1227 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,600 Speaker 1: her airplane, but that's not always the case. Some lines 1228 01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:19,600 Speaker 1: four and a half hours long. That's obviously a lot 1229 01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,840 Speaker 1: of pain, people missing flights. It's a security problem I've heard. 1230 01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,720 Speaker 1: And you might comment on that though, but I guess 1231 01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,280 Speaker 1: me first, just ask the question, do you even know 1232 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,479 Speaker 1: what it is that the Democrats want? Because last time 1233 01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:36,000 Speaker 1: I checked, ICE is fully funded for several years under 1234 01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,080 Speaker 1: the One Big Beautiful Bill, so they're going to continue 1235 01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,200 Speaker 1: to do their work. This is all about what practices 1236 01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:46,320 Speaker 1: on the ground dealing with the removal of illegal immigrants 1237 01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:47,560 Speaker 1: subject to a detention order. 1238 01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:52,320 Speaker 5: Congressman Davidson, Yeah, I mean, lineamentally, they're trying to leverage 1239 01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,120 Speaker 5: funding for Homeland security. So obviously not the whole governor 1240 01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,720 Speaker 5: shut down, but everyone at Homeland Security is working without 1241 01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,480 Speaker 5: a pay check or they're not at work, and you know, 1242 01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,600 Speaker 5: obviously that has big implications for day to day things. 1243 01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:09,320 Speaker 5: But the thing that is easiest to see is the TSA. 1244 01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,200 Speaker 5: I mean, I was I was down. I was asked 1245 01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,280 Speaker 5: to speak on a panel down it south by Southwest 1246 01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:17,920 Speaker 5: in Austin, Texas about two weeks ago, I guess, And yeah, 1247 01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,120 Speaker 5: we got there before six in the morning to leave 1248 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:24,480 Speaker 5: for a flight, and the line was wrapped all through 1249 01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,760 Speaker 5: the building on the inside, out the door down the 1250 01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,520 Speaker 5: building on the outside. I mean, it was crazy. And 1251 01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:34,440 Speaker 5: this is this is one hundred percent fixable if they 1252 01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:38,720 Speaker 5: just say, okay, we want to fund ICE. We want 1253 01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:41,920 Speaker 5: to fund the all of homeland security. And then they 1254 01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:45,400 Speaker 5: even said, well we funded except without ICE, and so 1255 01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,400 Speaker 5: they said fine, and then they realized, oh wait, they'll 1256 01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,360 Speaker 5: still have all the ICE. They said, okay, we'll fund it. 1257 01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,800 Speaker 5: And even though we funded with no funding for ICE, 1258 01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,360 Speaker 5: we want conditions on the money going to ICE. And 1259 01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,840 Speaker 5: you're like, well, like, there's no money going to ice 1260 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,960 Speaker 5: your plan, Well, okay, but you still have to do 1261 01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,880 Speaker 5: these things to ICE. So really what they want to 1262 01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,920 Speaker 5: do is say, as long as you stop deporting the 1263 01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,880 Speaker 5: millions of people that we brought into the country illegally, 1264 01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,240 Speaker 5: then we'll pay the people that our work today, which 1265 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,920 Speaker 5: is just offensive. So there's a bunch of us that 1266 01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,800 Speaker 5: have tried to pass this shutdown Fairness Actor. On Ron 1267 01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:25,040 Speaker 5: Johnson Center from Wisconsin introduced it, and it's just common sense. 1268 01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,160 Speaker 5: It's like, if you're essential enough to be at work, 1269 01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,679 Speaker 5: the payroll clerk is essential enough to pay you this week. 1270 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:32,639 Speaker 5: You know, in the private sector, if you had people 1271 01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,040 Speaker 5: showing up the work and you don't pay them, that's 1272 01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,479 Speaker 5: payroll theft. I mean, you can go to jail for that. 1273 01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,800 Speaker 5: So it is just wrong what they're doing by having 1274 01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,000 Speaker 5: everybody get at work, and they need to be at work. 1275 01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:46,120 Speaker 5: It is really important. But if the government should be funded, 1276 01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,320 Speaker 5: I mean, granted I would fund way less government. I'd 1277 01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,920 Speaker 5: be happy with the major cuts in a lot of areas, 1278 01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:55,160 Speaker 5: but not to securing our border and undoing this invasion. 1279 01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:56,960 Speaker 5: So that is the crux of what they're trying to 1280 01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:02,880 Speaker 5: preserve is the total ignoring of our law to flood 1281 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:04,200 Speaker 5: the country with illegals. 1282 01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:07,320 Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned things they want, it's things they want 1283 01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:10,479 Speaker 1: from ice agents. Generally speaking, I suppose that they admitted 1284 01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:12,080 Speaker 1: and said the real part out loud to be we 1285 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,439 Speaker 1: don't want anybody deported, period, end of the story. But 1286 01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,080 Speaker 1: no one's going to capitulate to that, and that's not 1287 01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:20,800 Speaker 1: a popular thing among their own constituents. So my understanding 1288 01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,640 Speaker 1: of the way this is unfolded the Trump administration and 1289 01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:27,400 Speaker 1: most people generally accept it. Fine, ICE wearing cameras, that's 1290 01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,519 Speaker 1: actually a good thing for the agents themselves. We'll do 1291 01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:33,280 Speaker 1: with that and other maybe conceding even on the judicial 1292 01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,160 Speaker 1: warr component. If you're going to kick in a somebody's 1293 01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,920 Speaker 1: front door at their home, I certainly can appreciate the 1294 01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,679 Speaker 1: argument that the Fourth Amendment still applies, But so okay, 1295 01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:42,439 Speaker 1: we'll get judicial warrns for those we need to go 1296 01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,439 Speaker 1: into homes to get. But we can still pick them 1297 01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,599 Speaker 1: up if they're on the street, hanging out, maybe going 1298 01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:48,960 Speaker 1: over to vote, or maybe even going into the airport 1299 01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:51,439 Speaker 1: to get a flight. All those are open game, and 1300 01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,040 Speaker 1: we'll go ahead and just get people that way. But 1301 01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:56,759 Speaker 1: the Republicans at least have conceded some of the points 1302 01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,799 Speaker 1: and are willing to make some changes to ICE's enforcement efforts. 1303 01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,360 Speaker 1: But what more do they want? What is the big 1304 01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:03,200 Speaker 1: hold out here? 1305 01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,240 Speaker 5: Well, I was talking with a few Senators last night. 1306 01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:12,080 Speaker 5: The Senator Rick Scott hosts a regular gathering of concertos 1307 01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,920 Speaker 5: in the House and Senate we're meeting last night, and 1308 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:19,639 Speaker 5: I guess, you know, late in the day yesterday, Senator 1309 01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,760 Speaker 5: Schumer finally put his list of demands in writing. I 1310 01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,439 Speaker 5: don't think they've made that list public, but they at 1311 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:29,559 Speaker 5: least have something on paper to negotiate over, you know, 1312 01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,760 Speaker 5: this time to see where it is. But you know, 1313 01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,680 Speaker 5: some of what you're talking about, Yeah, they've been very 1314 01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:38,879 Speaker 5: public and saying we want no masks on ICE agents. 1315 01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:41,720 Speaker 5: And you know, the reality is is they've got a 1316 01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:46,240 Speaker 5: very organized effort, particularly in sanctuary cities where ICE would 1317 01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:49,559 Speaker 5: do the work to you know, so not just a 1318 01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:53,080 Speaker 5: place where we don't we're welcoming. They're not talking about that. 1319 01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:56,160 Speaker 5: They've they've actually said we're going to actively work to 1320 01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,960 Speaker 5: you know, keep you safe from federal and horsemen. It's 1321 01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:05,000 Speaker 5: open rebellion against the federal government in these cities because 1322 01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:09,760 Speaker 5: they're saying, no, we will decide who who determines the 1323 01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:15,080 Speaker 5: lawful presence of foreign nationals in our country. 1324 01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:19,840 Speaker 1: It's federal law, Congressman Davids, federal law. It has to 1325 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:21,200 Speaker 1: be supremacy clause. 1326 01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:24,160 Speaker 5: Every city in the country deciding I know who's lawfully 1327 01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:28,280 Speaker 5: present or not, and that's it is open rebellion. I 1328 01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,320 Speaker 5: mean he cannot tolerate that and remain a sovereign country. 1329 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:35,280 Speaker 1: No, you can't. I mean that it's a supremacy clause. 1330 01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:38,400 Speaker 1: I don't. Well, you choose to ignore the Constitution. In 1331 01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:40,479 Speaker 1: the realities, it is going to be a tragic tragic things. 1332 01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:42,439 Speaker 1: But you know that the Trump administration sort of backed 1333 01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:45,200 Speaker 1: off on the real, solid, hard nose, let's kick everybody 1334 01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:48,479 Speaker 1: out approach they were taking. That led to all these protests. Honestly, 1335 01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:50,600 Speaker 1: Congressman Davidson and I may miss something because there's a 1336 01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:52,840 Speaker 1: lot of news in the world, but I haven't seen 1337 01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:56,760 Speaker 1: the sort of concerted out in the streets angry protesters 1338 01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,639 Speaker 1: going after ICE of late ever since the two Americans 1339 01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:03,400 Speaker 1: got who were in fact protesting and causing some disruptions there. 1340 01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,920 Speaker 1: And that will resolve itself down the road. I personally 1341 01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,880 Speaker 1: don't think that was appropriate action on part of ICE agents, 1342 01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,599 Speaker 1: but you know, the cooler heads will prevail and that'll 1343 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:15,320 Speaker 1: be resolved presumably in litigation. But the tactics generally seem 1344 01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:17,880 Speaker 1: to have mellowed. I think the administration seems to have 1345 01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:22,200 Speaker 1: gotten the message that listen, America is a little uncomfortable 1346 01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:25,320 Speaker 1: with these very draconian tactics. Just go after the hardcore 1347 01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,000 Speaker 1: bad guys and we're all going to be happy. Am 1348 01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:28,120 Speaker 1: I right on that? Congressman? 1349 01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:35,640 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I think that's true, and that's not necessarily 1350 01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:39,719 Speaker 5: uniformly supported. I mean, the message is there's no sanctuary, right. 1351 01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:43,120 Speaker 5: It can't just be oh well. I mean when they 1352 01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,920 Speaker 5: say we're going after the criminal illegal aliens, the average 1353 01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,679 Speaker 5: person thinks, well, that would be all of them, because 1354 01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:52,439 Speaker 5: if you're an illegal alien, you're a criminal. You've broken 1355 01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:56,240 Speaker 5: the law to be in the country. And I will say, yes, 1356 01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,519 Speaker 5: the priority should be the people that you know didn't 1357 01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:03,000 Speaker 5: come here to work, right, So there should be ways 1358 01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:07,360 Speaker 5: to hunt those folks down and deport them. And you know, 1359 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,920 Speaker 5: there's a saying in law enforcement ask tell make right. 1360 01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,559 Speaker 5: They've been asked to leave. They've even been incentivized to leave. 1361 01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,200 Speaker 5: There's like a twenty six hundred dollars payment plus your 1362 01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:20,599 Speaker 5: travel to leave. You know you're here illegally. You've been 1363 01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:24,040 Speaker 5: asked to leave, so please leave. You've been told to leave, 1364 01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:29,080 Speaker 5: and that was really the point of the election. The 1365 01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,880 Speaker 5: country told you, if you're here illegally, it's time for 1366 01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:35,240 Speaker 5: you to go, and Ice and everyone else has made 1367 01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:39,120 Speaker 5: it very clear you need to leave. And then periodically, yeah, 1368 01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,360 Speaker 5: you're going to find these people and you're going to 1369 01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:46,040 Speaker 5: make them leave. That is not a mean thing. You've 1370 01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:49,040 Speaker 5: asked them, you've told them, and now the only thing 1371 01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,599 Speaker 5: is to make them And the reality is you could 1372 01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,800 Speaker 5: have some rational dialogue about well, what are we going 1373 01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:59,639 Speaker 5: to do about the people that you know are here 1374 01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:03,760 Speaker 5: to be productive members of society. They're not, you know, 1375 01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:08,559 Speaker 5: committing welfare fraud, they're not flooding the country with just 1376 01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:12,400 Speaker 5: you know, an effort to undermine our culture. They want 1377 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,080 Speaker 5: to come here for the opportunity. Great, you should have 1378 01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:18,120 Speaker 5: come legally. Let's figure out how we deal with that. 1379 01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:20,639 Speaker 5: But we're not talking about that. I mean, Democrats don't 1380 01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:23,800 Speaker 5: want to talk about anything except blanket amnesty. There are 1381 01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,960 Speaker 5: no illegal people, and they want to perfect the system. 1382 01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:30,360 Speaker 5: And here's the next thing, you know, they don't want 1383 01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:34,519 Speaker 5: to They say, oh, well it's already illegal for non 1384 01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:38,400 Speaker 5: citizens to vote, so it doesn't happen. Well, I don't 1385 01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,160 Speaker 5: know how many things are illegal that do happen, right, 1386 01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:43,840 Speaker 5: And the way that you find out is there's a 1387 01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,960 Speaker 5: detection method. So you don't have a detection method right now, 1388 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,719 Speaker 5: so they say, oh, it doesn't occur, No, it doesn't 1389 01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:54,760 Speaker 5: get detected. And so you know, they've subpoenaed all of 1390 01:14:54,800 --> 01:15:00,599 Speaker 5: the voter registration files from states. Guess what, the loose states, 1391 01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:05,639 Speaker 5: the sanctuary states have not complied. Yeah, even in red 1392 01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:08,720 Speaker 5: straight states. They've found that there are illegals that have 1393 01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:11,040 Speaker 5: been registered to vote. And part of why is you 1394 01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:13,960 Speaker 5: go do motor voter and they just register everybody. They 1395 01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:17,599 Speaker 5: don't screen it at the Bureau Motor Vehicles. It goes 1396 01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:19,160 Speaker 5: in and then it's up to the Secretary of State 1397 01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:22,040 Speaker 5: to screen it. Well, in places like Ohio we do that, 1398 01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:26,240 Speaker 5: but in places like Illinois and New Jersey, California, et cetera, 1399 01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:30,599 Speaker 5: they don't. And so what's the means of purging them? 1400 01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,360 Speaker 5: If you don't purge them, how do you know whether 1401 01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:36,120 Speaker 5: they vote or not, especially when you don't have voter ID. 1402 01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:38,519 Speaker 5: So you can't even tell in a state with no voter, 1403 01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:41,680 Speaker 5: I d who voted, you know, So I don't know 1404 01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:43,600 Speaker 5: how you can say you have an honest election. And 1405 01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:45,840 Speaker 5: this is where these two things come to a head 1406 01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:48,760 Speaker 5: in the Senate and they've all passed the House. I 1407 01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:50,640 Speaker 5: mean they're like, well, what are you guys doing in 1408 01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:52,800 Speaker 5: the House, Like, well, we're going to vote again this 1409 01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:55,080 Speaker 5: week for like the third or fourth time, I don't 1410 01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:58,320 Speaker 5: know how many times we've voted to fund homeland security 1411 01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,960 Speaker 5: to keep proving we can, and then we're going to 1412 01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:05,640 Speaker 5: look over there at the Senate going what are you 1413 01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,720 Speaker 5: guys do? And I think they've finally gotten the message. 1414 01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,280 Speaker 5: They worked through the weekend last weekend, and I think 1415 01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:14,680 Speaker 5: they're going to continue to work into this, you know, 1416 01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:18,080 Speaker 5: Easter break, you know, and in general back home. You know, 1417 01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,800 Speaker 5: we'll meet with some people this next week when I'm 1418 01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:24,360 Speaker 5: back in Ohio, but as things go closer to Eastern 1419 01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,160 Speaker 5: nobody wants to meet. They want to sit together with 1420 01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,479 Speaker 5: their own families and stuff. Right, Well, Soda, members of Congress, 1421 01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:30,400 Speaker 5: So to the senators. 1422 01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:31,760 Speaker 1: But if they. 1423 01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:33,800 Speaker 5: Haven't done this, I hope they do their duty and 1424 01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:35,240 Speaker 5: stick around and exact job done. 1425 01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:38,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, no sympathy for them complaining about missing out on 1426 01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:40,240 Speaker 1: Easter when they can't get this job done. I agree 1427 01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:42,120 Speaker 1: with you completely on that. We'll pause, We'll bring Congressman 1428 01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,960 Speaker 1: Warre and Davidson back and we'll get some insight into 1429 01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:50,800 Speaker 1: the station. It is seven twenty fififty bock Karcity TALKX Sation, 1430 01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:54,719 Speaker 1: briand Times. The Congressman Warren Davidson, who war America's uniform 1431 01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:57,320 Speaker 1: served as country proudly in the American Armed Forces. Congressman Davidson, 1432 01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,960 Speaker 1: thank you for that, but also your perception about troop deployment. 1433 01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:03,719 Speaker 1: Donald Trump putting more and more troops in the area. 1434 01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,640 Speaker 1: Not deployed on the ground yet, but it suggests that 1435 01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:08,400 Speaker 1: maybe that's the next step. Iran still not playing ball. 1436 01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:12,200 Speaker 1: According to Press TV, the Running TV, they rejected the 1437 01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:14,680 Speaker 1: fifteen point plan. They came up with five conditions of 1438 01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:18,240 Speaker 1: their own, which seemed like a large and ridiculous ask themselves, 1439 01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:20,760 Speaker 1: where are we on this am A part of me 1440 01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,000 Speaker 1: wants to say that the Iranians are maybe trying to 1441 01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:26,759 Speaker 1: call President Trump's bluff and maybe get him to deploy 1442 01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:30,160 Speaker 1: ground forces. Do they take into account the political landscape 1443 01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:32,680 Speaker 1: here in America, because that's not a popular thing here 1444 01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:33,439 Speaker 1: in the United States. 1445 01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:38,920 Speaker 5: Congressman Davidson, Yeah, I mean they've got a sophisticated system 1446 01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:43,240 Speaker 5: for intel. I think they are aware of America American culture, 1447 01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:47,559 Speaker 5: and they frankly they engage in and in Internet based 1448 01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:53,280 Speaker 5: information wars as well. So you know, Iran's not you know, 1449 01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,000 Speaker 5: the Taliban in the hills of Afghanistan. They're a much 1450 01:17:56,040 --> 01:18:01,920 Speaker 5: more sophisticated adversary. Nevertheless, you know, the war in the 1451 01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:05,599 Speaker 5: sense of the goals that the President Trump, I'd say 1452 01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,000 Speaker 5: it really Marco Rubio. President Trump stated like a lot 1453 01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:12,360 Speaker 5: of variations on goals, but you know, Secretury State Rubio 1454 01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:16,240 Speaker 5: laid out three things that they wanted to accomplish when 1455 01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:20,439 Speaker 5: they started. This is eliminate the missile threat from Iran 1456 01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:26,439 Speaker 5: and the missile production capability, eliminate the navy and UH 1457 01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:30,400 Speaker 5: and then cut off the ability for Iran to keep 1458 01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:34,599 Speaker 5: funding their proxies. And so they've really done a lot 1459 01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:38,360 Speaker 5: of They've had a major effect on those three goals. 1460 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:42,920 Speaker 5: So but of course they've also stated lots of other goals, 1461 01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:45,920 Speaker 5: I mean, and part of that is, UH, you know, 1462 01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:50,080 Speaker 5: to create a whole information war there too, and to escalate, 1463 01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:56,439 Speaker 5: you know, to drive negotiations. But it's also even within 1464 01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:59,599 Speaker 5: our own country. So what exactly is our mission there? 1465 01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:01,439 Speaker 5: What are we trying to do? What are we still 1466 01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:04,520 Speaker 5: trying to do, and so it's created a lot of uncertainty. 1467 01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:08,800 Speaker 5: It's supposed to create uncertainty for Iran, but you know, 1468 01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:10,519 Speaker 5: that's the real question for a lot of folks. We 1469 01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:13,920 Speaker 5: are sending ground troops over that way, people that could 1470 01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:16,720 Speaker 5: could enter the ground, and then you know, we just 1471 01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:21,360 Speaker 5: you know, my continual thing when I look at Lindsey 1472 01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:24,000 Speaker 5: Graham as well, I hope President Trump isn't listening to him. 1473 01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:29,160 Speaker 5: But that's that's unlimited. You know, if President Trump was 1474 01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:31,200 Speaker 5: listening less to Lindsay Graham, I'm not sure we would 1475 01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:35,120 Speaker 5: even be at war in Iran right now. Containment has worked. 1476 01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:38,400 Speaker 5: I believe containment could have continued to work. And frankly, 1477 01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:42,479 Speaker 5: Iran is vulnerable. Their only real source of revenue is oil, 1478 01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:46,080 Speaker 5: and you don't have to control the straight Offoor moves 1479 01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,479 Speaker 5: to control Iran's oil. We have a navy big enough 1480 01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:50,680 Speaker 5: that you can just sit down at the mouth of 1481 01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:55,200 Speaker 5: that gulf there and catch every Iranian flagship you want 1482 01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:56,160 Speaker 5: to catch with our navy. 1483 01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,280 Speaker 1: That that would go a long way toward interrupting the 1484 01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:00,000 Speaker 1: proxy fund. 1485 01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,800 Speaker 5: Don't you think it would go a long way to 1486 01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,960 Speaker 5: controlling everything about Iran? All right? So you could have 1487 01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:09,360 Speaker 5: done that with you know, not as many highlight reels 1488 01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:12,120 Speaker 5: with the bombings and everything, but the leverage would have 1489 01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:15,200 Speaker 5: been there, and maximum pressure worked very well the first 1490 01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:19,040 Speaker 5: first Trump administration by not even doing that, by choking 1491 01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:22,600 Speaker 5: off you know, the market for them, but you know, 1492 01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:24,880 Speaker 5: China's soaked up a lot of that market, and that's 1493 01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:28,599 Speaker 5: one of the things that has been going China's payment 1494 01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:33,439 Speaker 5: for oil and Chinese money r and bu Wan their 1495 01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:38,400 Speaker 5: their payment. Undermining the dollar is one of the things 1496 01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:42,200 Speaker 5: that is really at play in this you know, military 1497 01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:46,200 Speaker 5: operation here, and it's it's to counter China's influence in 1498 01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:49,280 Speaker 5: the region and to cut off Iran slow of cash 1499 01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:51,800 Speaker 5: because even if a lot of the other people were 1500 01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:57,280 Speaker 5: cooperative and most of the Europeans aren't, frankly, then you know, 1501 01:20:57,439 --> 01:21:00,360 Speaker 5: that makes the sanctions regime hard to do. Ian is 1502 01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,640 Speaker 5: pouring enough cash in there alone that it kind of 1503 01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:06,920 Speaker 5: props up the government of Iran. So that's where maybe 1504 01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:10,479 Speaker 5: a navy blockade would have worked and could still work, 1505 01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:13,280 Speaker 5: so you don't necessarily have to control every ship out 1506 01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:16,200 Speaker 5: of there. But without a normal flow of oil coming 1507 01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:21,960 Speaker 5: out of that, you know, you waterway, you're going to 1508 01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:25,640 Speaker 5: continue to have major disruptions in the oil and energy. 1509 01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:27,360 Speaker 1: Markets well, and a lot of countries waking up to 1510 01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,640 Speaker 1: the reality that their dream of green aspirations is going 1511 01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:32,960 Speaker 1: to kill them economically if they don't have a backup 1512 01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:36,400 Speaker 1: plan to deal with interruptions which are logical and reasonable 1513 01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:39,280 Speaker 1: to conclude as a consequence of any sort of military 1514 01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,599 Speaker 1: activity going on. Through that read and straight hohorror moves, boy, 1515 01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:44,120 Speaker 1: we've all learned a lot about that one. Congressman Warren Davidson, 1516 01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:45,920 Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time today, spending it 1517 01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:47,960 Speaker 1: with my listeners and me appreciate it. I hope you 1518 01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:49,680 Speaker 1: have a wonderful opening day and I look forward to 1519 01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:51,280 Speaker 1: having back on the show very soon. 1520 01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:54,880 Speaker 5: Sir, Yeah, thanks Brian, always an honor. God bless you 1521 01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:55,639 Speaker 5: and all your listeners. 1522 01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,880 Speaker 1: Senator Rand Paul. Next, he'll talk about ron as well 1523 01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:01,679 Speaker 1: as the Penny Plan, which I really like. Paul's Penny 1524 01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,519 Speaker 1: Plan seven twenty seven. Right now for you, PARS Talk Station, 1525 01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:08,880 Speaker 1: it's seven thirty one to fifty five KRCD Talk Station. 1526 01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:12,720 Speaker 1: Happy Tuesday, opening day and always a great day when 1527 01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,240 Speaker 1: Senator Ran Paul returns to the fifty five krc Morning Show. 1528 01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:17,280 Speaker 1: Welcome back, Senator Paul's a distinct pleasure to have you 1529 01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:17,959 Speaker 1: on the program. 1530 01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:20,559 Speaker 3: Good morning, Brian, thanks for having me. 1531 01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:25,559 Speaker 1: More troops going to the region anyway, not necessarily going 1532 01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:27,080 Speaker 1: to be deployed yet, but it's a threat to the 1533 01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:29,640 Speaker 1: Iranians to negotiate. They don't seem to want to negotiate, 1534 01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:31,920 Speaker 1: and part of me, Senator Paul, thinks that maybe the 1535 01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,360 Speaker 1: Iranians realize the political landscape you're here in the United 1536 01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,640 Speaker 1: States and maybe trying to call Donald Trump's bluff and 1537 01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:38,920 Speaker 1: get him to commit drowned groups or ground troops in 1538 01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:41,360 Speaker 1: spite of the fact that might harm them. But I 1539 01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:43,000 Speaker 1: don't know if I'm way out in left field on 1540 01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:45,760 Speaker 1: that one, but certainly the war rages on and we 1541 01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,240 Speaker 1: don't see any light at least I don't between both 1542 01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:50,880 Speaker 1: sides in terms of negotiating a resolution. Where are we 1543 01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:52,280 Speaker 1: on this, Senator ran Paul. 1544 01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:55,760 Speaker 3: You know one reason they might not want to negotiate 1545 01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:59,000 Speaker 3: is last summer, while they were negotiating if we bomb 1546 01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:02,719 Speaker 3: their nuclear facility. This time they were negotiating in Oman, 1547 01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:07,720 Speaker 3: and we you know, unleashed this Operation Fury and all 1548 01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,040 Speaker 3: the bombs. So I guess the last two times they've 1549 01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:14,000 Speaker 3: negotiated with us. The negotiations didn't really seem to be 1550 01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:18,200 Speaker 3: in earnest or honest negotiations, and I think they may 1551 01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,280 Speaker 3: feel that they were tricked at the time to letting 1552 01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:23,960 Speaker 3: down their guard. They also really are probably desperate. You know, 1553 01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:27,559 Speaker 3: most of their command has been removed, their supreme leaders 1554 01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:30,680 Speaker 3: been removed, so I don't know that they feel like 1555 01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,640 Speaker 3: they'll get honest negotiation, and I think they're just regrouping 1556 01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:37,320 Speaker 3: and thinking their best chance is hand to hand combat. 1557 01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,760 Speaker 3: And this is sort of people have called this the 1558 01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:44,400 Speaker 3: escalation trap, the idea that we have such great weapons, 1559 01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,960 Speaker 3: which we do. They're smart bombs, precision, we can plant them, 1560 01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:50,799 Speaker 3: you know, in a ten foot radius anywhere in the world, 1561 01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:55,439 Speaker 3: and so we have superiority everywhere. But people think that 1562 01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:59,520 Speaker 3: that means that people on the receiving end will ultimately 1563 01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:02,920 Speaker 3: just surrender, and they might. That would be great if 1564 01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:07,160 Speaker 3: that happened, But also sometimes what happens is nationalism arises 1565 01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:09,800 Speaker 3: and the people actually come together, even the people who 1566 01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,679 Speaker 3: hate their own regime come together and begin to hate 1567 01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:15,759 Speaker 3: the collateral damage of all the bombing. 1568 01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:18,640 Speaker 1: Well, and I can certainly see them going down that 1569 01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:22,320 Speaker 1: road center to Paul the geographical realities are really perilous 1570 01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:24,879 Speaker 1: for ground troop operations. There the size of the country 1571 01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:28,080 Speaker 1: two point four times the state of Texas, and they've 1572 01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:30,479 Speaker 1: had a long time to you know, entrench themselves. You know, 1573 01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:32,120 Speaker 1: I think about, you know, the invasion of the small 1574 01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:36,599 Speaker 1: little islands when the United States Marines moved in towards Japan, 1575 01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,000 Speaker 1: and how you know, in trench they were, and how 1576 01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:42,120 Speaker 1: long it took men to you know, to overcome the forces. Hey, 1577 01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:43,519 Speaker 1: that's basically Iran, is it? 1578 01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:43,640 Speaker 7: Not? 1579 01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:45,479 Speaker 2: Well? 1580 01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:47,960 Speaker 3: And you know, Lindsey Graham has gleefully said, well, there 1581 01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:51,679 Speaker 3: was Eva Gemo, we need another Eva Gema conveniently sort 1582 01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:54,920 Speaker 3: of forgets that, like over twenty thousand Americans died on 1583 01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:57,479 Speaker 3: the island of Eva Gema was it was hell, and 1584 01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,240 Speaker 3: they did it for their country. But anybody who wishes that, 1585 01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:03,040 Speaker 3: or anybody who says, well, gosh, we're gonna make a 1586 01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:05,120 Speaker 3: lot of money off this war, I think that's just 1587 01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:09,120 Speaker 3: reprehensible and really those kind of people shouldn't be listened to. 1588 01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:10,639 Speaker 2: Look, I know people. 1589 01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:13,200 Speaker 3: Who will fight this war personally. I know good friends 1590 01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:15,160 Speaker 3: of mine's kids who will go to fight this war 1591 01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,240 Speaker 3: and may well, as far as I know, have already 1592 01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,599 Speaker 3: been over there, but I don't want I don't want 1593 01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:22,559 Speaker 3: the war to go on. I want the war to end, 1594 01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,160 Speaker 3: and I wanted to end as soon as possible. So 1595 01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:27,400 Speaker 3: we'll we'll see what happens. I continue to be a 1596 01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:30,680 Speaker 3: voice to say this isn't in our national interest and 1597 01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,080 Speaker 3: I don't think it furthers. I think it makes our 1598 01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:36,479 Speaker 3: country poor, not richer. I think it makes us as 1599 01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:39,559 Speaker 3: a country more vulnerable as we increase our debt. So 1600 01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:42,280 Speaker 3: I hope it's over sooner than later. The only thing 1601 01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:43,840 Speaker 3: I have to say about the troops so far, as 1602 01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:47,080 Speaker 3: there's about five thousand marines that the pub the press 1603 01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:51,200 Speaker 3: has reported over there, I don't think that's enough to 1604 01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:53,960 Speaker 3: really invade a country with. You know when we went 1605 01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,960 Speaker 3: into Iraq, you know when they went Iraq attack Kuwait. 1606 01:25:57,479 --> 01:25:59,679 Speaker 3: I think we've probably one hundred thousand troops over there, 1607 01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:02,040 Speaker 3: so usually when we go in, we go and it 1608 01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:05,639 Speaker 3: was overwhelming force. Now Venezuela was a one off, I think, 1609 01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:07,639 Speaker 3: and that they went in with two or three hundred 1610 01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:10,679 Speaker 3: people in a very precision raid to get one person 1611 01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:13,680 Speaker 3: and leave. I don't know that that is really in 1612 01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:16,720 Speaker 3: the office for Iran. I think they'd want to do 1613 01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,040 Speaker 3: something like you know, this is a guess. I haven't 1614 01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:21,360 Speaker 3: had any briefings on this, but I guess that if 1615 01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:23,400 Speaker 3: you want to go in and control the straits of Hermose, 1616 01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:24,840 Speaker 3: I don't think you do that with a lot a 1617 01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,240 Speaker 3: thousand soldiers. I think the whole country would be up 1618 01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:30,160 Speaker 3: in arms. I think it wouldn't be as easy as 1619 01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:30,840 Speaker 3: people think. 1620 01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:34,400 Speaker 1: And my understanding is some suggest that card Island, that 1621 01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:38,960 Speaker 1: massive export terminal for Iran, might be taken over by 1622 01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:42,200 Speaker 1: the Marines. That represents some serious logistical challenges, and of 1623 01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:44,400 Speaker 1: course it will be easier to just make a blockade 1624 01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:47,479 Speaker 1: and blockade the Iranian oil tankers from getting out of 1625 01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:50,040 Speaker 1: the area. That's it seems to be an easier solution. 1626 01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:52,680 Speaker 1: Can I pivot over? Because I know what you were 1627 01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:54,519 Speaker 1: one of the ones that actually looks at the Constitution 1628 01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:57,559 Speaker 1: of believes there's some that need to get congressional approval. 1629 01:26:57,720 --> 01:26:59,840 Speaker 1: There's been no declaration of war, there's been no authors 1630 01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:02,519 Speaker 1: of use of military force, which seems to me suggest 1631 01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:05,920 Speaker 1: we're in warpowers resolution territory. But is the sixty days 1632 01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:09,200 Speaker 1: lash ninety day clock ticking on that Some are arguing 1633 01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:11,320 Speaker 1: that that hasn't even been implicated because there was no 1634 01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,720 Speaker 1: imminent threat, which is the justification for launching the action 1635 01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:18,680 Speaker 1: of the first place, Senator Paul exactly. 1636 01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:21,920 Speaker 3: So the Constitution takes precedents, it's the first thing, and 1637 01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:25,040 Speaker 3: it says that the power to declare or initiate war 1638 01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:28,040 Speaker 3: lives with Congress. They haven't done that. The war powers 1639 01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:31,479 Speaker 3: out come in and says, all right, there are three 1640 01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:34,560 Speaker 3: different ways you can go to war legally, a declaration 1641 01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:37,760 Speaker 3: by Congress, a use of authorization of force which is 1642 01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:42,360 Speaker 3: similar vote by Congress, or an eminent threat. So really 1643 01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:45,200 Speaker 3: the only way you can legally invade a country without 1644 01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:48,080 Speaker 3: Congress hoting on it is to say it's an imminent threat. 1645 01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:51,240 Speaker 3: The problem with that argument is they say, well, yes, 1646 01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:54,000 Speaker 3: a Ram started this war forty seven years ago, and 1647 01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,120 Speaker 3: I guess once you say forty seven years, it doesn't 1648 01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:59,080 Speaker 3: sound that imminent. You know, if they really had been 1649 01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:00,920 Speaker 3: at war with us for four seven years, I would 1650 01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:04,800 Speaker 3: think another twelve hours to call Congress in and have 1651 01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:08,680 Speaker 3: them vote would not be delaying the imminence of this. 1652 01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:12,120 Speaker 3: Some have said, as Mark Rubia said, that Israel was 1653 01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,519 Speaker 3: going to attack with or without our permission, and that 1654 01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:18,799 Speaker 3: there would have been repercussions, and those would have been imminent, 1655 01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:23,439 Speaker 3: and that sounds like sort of a stretch to the 1656 01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:27,240 Speaker 3: argument of imminence. The other argument is that it was 1657 01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:31,000 Speaker 3: imminent because they're imminently going to get a nuclear weapon. Well, 1658 01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:35,200 Speaker 3: you know, when the Trump administration bombed their nuclear facilities 1659 01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:37,840 Speaker 3: six months ago, they said they were obliterated, So that 1660 01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:40,400 Speaker 3: wouldn't be consistent. If they were obliterated, how would they 1661 01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:44,320 Speaker 3: be reconstituting them. We have intel assessments, i think from 1662 01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:49,240 Speaker 3: eighteen different US intelligence agencies, none of which say that 1663 01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:52,800 Speaker 3: they're reconstituting their nuclear program or that there were weeks 1664 01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:55,479 Speaker 3: away from developing a weapon. And the people who have 1665 01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:59,439 Speaker 3: wanted this war have been saying really probably for twenty 1666 01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:02,160 Speaker 3: years now. Their video is going back into the nineties 1667 01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:04,800 Speaker 3: of them saying Iran is only one week away from 1668 01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:07,479 Speaker 3: getting a nuclear weapon. True, we must stop them now. 1669 01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:10,720 Speaker 3: And so it's somewhat of a canard, and it's hard 1670 01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:13,639 Speaker 3: to argue with because even at my level, nobody shows 1671 01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:15,840 Speaker 3: me evidence that they don't have a nuclear weapon which 1672 01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:19,280 Speaker 3: is or are developing. It's hard to have evidence of 1673 01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:23,320 Speaker 3: something that doesn't exist. But they also they closely guard 1674 01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:26,280 Speaker 3: this information. So when the executive takes us to war, 1675 01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:28,519 Speaker 3: they just tell us what they want us to hear true, 1676 01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:30,720 Speaker 3: and there's no real way to challenge them unless you 1677 01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:33,439 Speaker 3: have accessed all the classified data, and then they have 1678 01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:35,720 Speaker 3: it classified so you're not allowed to reveal it. So 1679 01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:39,160 Speaker 3: there's a lot of reasons why the argumentation is much 1680 01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:41,360 Speaker 3: more difficult from the outside looking in. 1681 01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:44,720 Speaker 1: Well out of the concept of mutually assured destruction. I 1682 01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:47,160 Speaker 1: think the North Koreans are benefiting from their nuclear weapons. 1683 01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:49,200 Speaker 1: We know Russia and China are. We don't attack them 1684 01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:51,400 Speaker 1: in spite of the fact that they represent greater existential 1685 01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:54,240 Speaker 1: threats to our existence than even Iran. Iran of course 1686 01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:56,799 Speaker 1: once one, so they can prevent being they can avoid 1687 01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:59,800 Speaker 1: being bombed. Nobody bombs a country with a nuclear weapon, 1688 01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:01,720 Speaker 1: and isn't that the point of having one. 1689 01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:03,720 Speaker 3: I don't want to see this. I mean, yeah, they're 1690 01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:06,920 Speaker 3: not dumb. They see this, and it's something that we 1691 01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:10,360 Speaker 3: have to understand from an adversary's position. Doesn't mean anybody 1692 01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:12,360 Speaker 3: wants a rant of a neutral weapons but from their 1693 01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:15,320 Speaker 3: point of view, but from their point of view that 1694 01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:17,400 Speaker 3: they see it as a protection from attackers. 1695 01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:20,200 Speaker 2: Nobody attacks on Korea Senator. 1696 01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:23,200 Speaker 1: Ran Paul pivoting over briefly, is the time finally right 1697 01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:25,719 Speaker 1: for the penny Plan? I think it's a brilliant suggestion. 1698 01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:28,040 Speaker 1: I think we can do with a little waste of 1699 01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:31,040 Speaker 1: spending cuts with in the United States government is a 1700 01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:32,120 Speaker 1: day finally comes, sir. 1701 01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:35,840 Speaker 3: I think people when they hear about it say, well, gosh, 1702 01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:39,479 Speaker 3: it just takes a small percentage cut of everything. Even 1703 01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:43,120 Speaker 3: people who are enamored of their particular pet cause or 1704 01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:45,559 Speaker 3: someone in their family has a terrible disease and they 1705 01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:48,160 Speaker 3: want the government to find a cure. Even those people, 1706 01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:49,840 Speaker 3: when I say to them, well, gosh, it'd be a 1707 01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:52,120 Speaker 3: six percent cut. It used to be a penny cut, 1708 01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:54,280 Speaker 3: but it's gotten worse to be a six penny cut. 1709 01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:57,120 Speaker 3: And the six percent cut means I mean, think about it. 1710 01:30:57,240 --> 01:31:00,599 Speaker 3: Let's say your family member has Alzheimer's disease and want 1711 01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:03,759 Speaker 3: the government to research that. And I look at these people, 1712 01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:05,800 Speaker 3: and I have great sympathy. I have family members with 1713 01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:08,200 Speaker 3: it also, and I say, you got one hundred million 1714 01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,719 Speaker 3: last year. What this would mean is you get ninety 1715 01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:13,120 Speaker 3: four million next year. And most of them look at 1716 01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:15,559 Speaker 3: me and say, well, gosh, if the country's out of money. 1717 01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:17,400 Speaker 3: We all should do that. We all get together. It 1718 01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:20,080 Speaker 3: doesn't mean there's no research money in too be ninety 1719 01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:23,639 Speaker 3: four million instead of one hundred million. And most people 1720 01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:26,800 Speaker 3: think it's reasonable unless they're in Congress. And those in 1721 01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:29,560 Speaker 3: Congress are what's a nice. 1722 01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:30,320 Speaker 2: Word, not idiots. 1723 01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:33,040 Speaker 3: That's not a nice people in Congress. Let's just say 1724 01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:36,960 Speaker 3: they're profligate spenders. That's a nicer word. But they don't 1725 01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:39,120 Speaker 3: have a concern for the debt. But it's catching up. 1726 01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:41,840 Speaker 3: Medicare SOB security, you are running out of money within 1727 01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:44,960 Speaker 3: the next few years. Nobody is lifting a finger to 1728 01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:47,719 Speaker 3: try to fix them. Every time I try to propose 1729 01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:51,080 Speaker 3: something for SOB security Medicare, they're not popular because they 1730 01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:55,000 Speaker 3: do involve reducing benefits in some ways or raising the 1731 01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:57,439 Speaker 3: age in some ways. But every time I bring it up, 1732 01:31:57,479 --> 01:31:59,599 Speaker 3: people say, oh, you're going to try to do this 1733 01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:02,680 Speaker 3: this and it isn't popular. But I don't do it 1734 01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:05,559 Speaker 3: for a popularity contest. I know because I want those 1735 01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:08,599 Speaker 3: security to be there for my friends and relatives when 1736 01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:10,920 Speaker 3: they're turned sixty five in the next ten years. 1737 01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:13,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, the landscape has changed dramatically since the program is 1738 01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:16,080 Speaker 1: an act that changes must take place to deal with 1739 01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:18,799 Speaker 1: the reflections of that, and it is a failing program. 1740 01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:21,160 Speaker 1: Just look at the numbers. The numbers don't lie, Senator Paul, 1741 01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:23,240 Speaker 1: you know that you're just trying to bring to people's 1742 01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:26,439 Speaker 1: attention third rail of politics. Okay, let's ignore the problem 1743 01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:28,479 Speaker 1: as if it does not exist, so we all will 1744 01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:29,599 Speaker 1: have nothing down the road. 1745 01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:32,240 Speaker 3: There was an off edge of the day reporting how 1746 01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:34,920 Speaker 3: many couples get over one hundred thousand dollars a year 1747 01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:38,320 Speaker 3: now in retirement from ZOI security, But it also mentioned 1748 01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:41,760 Speaker 3: what percentage of social security is our GDP? And I 1749 01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:44,200 Speaker 3: think so security is five percent of the GDP in 1750 01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:46,880 Speaker 3: this country. And then we look at Sweden and we say, oh, 1751 01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:50,160 Speaker 3: the Sweden's terrible. They're socialists and all this. Their SOB 1752 01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:53,200 Speaker 3: security is less than one percent of their GDP. So 1753 01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:57,280 Speaker 3: they actually have pension plans that if the economy goes 1754 01:32:57,320 --> 01:32:59,920 Speaker 3: south and slows down, they slow down the pension pain 1755 01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,559 Speaker 3: and their average pension payments about thirty or forty thousand 1756 01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:06,880 Speaker 3: dollars a year. And I guess maybe that's our top. 1757 01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:09,000 Speaker 3: Our top is around one hundred thousand. 1758 01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:13,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's not it's never apples. The apples comparisons. 1759 01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:15,200 Speaker 1: Senator Ran Paul, thank you so much for your time today. 1760 01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:17,759 Speaker 1: Keep up the great work and keep talking, keep speaking 1761 01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:21,400 Speaker 1: truth to the UH, the profligate spenders. Somebody will finally 1762 01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:24,000 Speaker 1: get through to them. I hope it's you, Senator Ram Paul. 1763 01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:25,599 Speaker 1: You're always walking around to the fifty five Carscree morning. 1764 01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:27,479 Speaker 1: Should have a great day, sir, and happy opening day 1765 01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:30,880 Speaker 1: seven forty three. Right now at thirty five krs the 1766 01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:33,280 Speaker 1: talk station Zimmer Heating and a welcome. Kurt Hartman from 1767 01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:36,120 Speaker 1: the Fitty Law Firm got another lawsuit to talk about. Kurt, 1768 01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:37,679 Speaker 1: could you have you back on the show today? Happy 1769 01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:41,599 Speaker 1: for opening the day with you there. All right? First off, 1770 01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:44,400 Speaker 1: you on behalf of your client, Lisa Daily, resident of 1771 01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:47,479 Speaker 1: the school district Forest Hill School District. Specifically, you find 1772 01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:50,040 Speaker 1: a lawsuit on her behalf asking the Forest Hill School 1773 01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:53,960 Speaker 1: District to produce, hopefully an unredacted copy of their Immigrations 1774 01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:58,040 Speaker 1: and Customs Enforcement response plan. Kurt Hartman got to start with, 1775 01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:00,360 Speaker 1: why do they have one in the first place? Is 1776 01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:02,640 Speaker 1: this a plan in search of a problem. What's the 1777 01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:04,519 Speaker 1: story behind why they have one? They will get to 1778 01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:05,800 Speaker 1: the reasons why you're suing them. 1779 01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:10,000 Speaker 15: Yeah, no, it is definitely, you know, a solution in 1780 01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:13,479 Speaker 15: search of a problem. But what has happened is, you know, 1781 01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:19,479 Speaker 15: since the last election, the ultra left, ultra progressives have 1782 01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:23,320 Speaker 15: taken over the forestill school board and so I think 1783 01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:28,559 Speaker 15: this is aligned with the radical leftist agenda of those 1784 01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:29,400 Speaker 15: on the school board. 1785 01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:32,960 Speaker 7: The hostility towards the school board, you know, kind of 1786 01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:35,560 Speaker 7: predating this was you know, in late January, there was 1787 01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:38,760 Speaker 7: a student walk out, one of these student walkout protesting 1788 01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:40,000 Speaker 7: ICE right. 1789 01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:42,400 Speaker 9: During the middle class, during the middle school. 1790 01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:46,200 Speaker 7: And there's no accountability, no repercussions for the students. They 1791 01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:49,960 Speaker 7: disrupt the educational process. But I think because the problem, 1792 01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:52,679 Speaker 7: you know, it was anti ICE at that time too, 1793 01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:54,880 Speaker 7: no problem, just do it. 1794 01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:58,280 Speaker 3: So, you know, I think they're kind of related, but 1795 01:34:58,320 --> 01:34:58,759 Speaker 3: it kind. 1796 01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:03,360 Speaker 7: Of shows this hostility and this you know, political agenda 1797 01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:06,519 Speaker 7: that the current school board has well. 1798 01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:09,120 Speaker 1: And I was offended by the walkout too. I was 1799 01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:11,639 Speaker 1: more curious to know on that one, and I don't 1800 01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:13,240 Speaker 1: know that it's ever been reported, but do you know, 1801 01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:16,479 Speaker 1: did those students walk out to protest at the ICE 1802 01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:19,759 Speaker 1: at the behest of their teachers, who would should otherwise 1803 01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:22,000 Speaker 1: have said don't you can't leave class. You're gonna be 1804 01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:25,519 Speaker 1: held accountable, suspended, or otherwise facing penalties for walking out 1805 01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:26,160 Speaker 1: of class. 1806 01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:27,800 Speaker 2: No, not at all. 1807 01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:30,200 Speaker 7: Actually, you know, there's this wull text group that the 1808 01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:33,639 Speaker 7: students were in that I've got access to, was provided 1809 01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:36,840 Speaker 7: privy to, and you know, at first the students were 1810 01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:38,960 Speaker 7: kind of concerned, but then they said, hey, we talked 1811 01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:41,280 Speaker 7: to the principal assistant principal. 1812 01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:43,000 Speaker 9: And hey, everything's fine, we can do it. 1813 01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:46,479 Speaker 7: Just you know, they gave us the parameters do this, 1814 01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:49,240 Speaker 7: don't shout go to the football field, you know. 1815 01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:52,360 Speaker 9: So so in a certain sense, I think school officials 1816 01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:54,880 Speaker 9: were condoning or you know, supporting in a certain sense 1817 01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:55,519 Speaker 9: this walkout. 1818 01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:58,560 Speaker 7: There was never this, hey you're gonna be disrupting the school, 1819 01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:00,920 Speaker 7: You're gonna be held accountable, et cetera. None of that. 1820 01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:05,920 Speaker 7: You know, it's just okay, you know, and it's just this, 1821 01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:09,200 Speaker 7: you know, let's take an over academia and the educational 1822 01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:13,680 Speaker 7: process itself. You know throughout the country, you know, is 1823 01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:20,160 Speaker 7: this is this heart radical Marxist ideology. And so when 1824 01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:22,559 Speaker 7: the come comes forward, so they do that walk out. 1825 01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:25,360 Speaker 7: Next thing, you know, the school boards meeting and going 1826 01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:25,960 Speaker 7: into an. 1827 01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:28,080 Speaker 9: Executive session and we. 1828 01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:31,559 Speaker 7: Learned that this ICE response plan comes out and says, hey, 1829 01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:34,240 Speaker 7: let's see it exactly what your attitude. Lets see what 1830 01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:36,559 Speaker 7: your attitude is, because what it's doing is, if you 1831 01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:40,160 Speaker 7: think about it, Brian, it's how do we respond to 1832 01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:43,000 Speaker 7: law enforcement officers enforcing the law? 1833 01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:44,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, exact. 1834 01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:48,240 Speaker 7: So they redact this under a statue that's based upon 1835 01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:54,360 Speaker 7: you know, protecting information that's you know, an attack, sabotage. 1836 01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:56,000 Speaker 9: Interference, or acts of terrorism. 1837 01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:58,320 Speaker 7: I mean this was a statue that was passed right 1838 01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:02,439 Speaker 7: after nine to eleven, and so that's what it's designed. 1839 01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:03,559 Speaker 9: It's okay, we're not. 1840 01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:08,240 Speaker 7: So when we are intact, when criminal activity is occurring 1841 01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:12,720 Speaker 7: against or you know, against public offices, how do we 1842 01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:13,559 Speaker 7: guard against that? 1843 01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:14,320 Speaker 1: Which is who. 1844 01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:16,719 Speaker 9: Criminal activity? 1845 01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:18,479 Speaker 1: Right? That's the argument you advanced in of course, Like 1846 01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:21,920 Speaker 1: wait a second, are you telling us that you perceive 1847 01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:24,880 Speaker 1: the ICE agents to be terrorists in essence? 1848 01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:26,519 Speaker 2: Correct? 1849 01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:31,080 Speaker 9: That's I mean, that's what I equate it to. I mean, terrorists, savageores, 1850 01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:33,920 Speaker 9: et cetera. No, you know, how how are we going 1851 01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:34,519 Speaker 9: to respond? 1852 01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:37,400 Speaker 7: And so it's like, let us see it, you know, 1853 01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:41,559 Speaker 7: let's see what attitude are public officials in Forest Hill 1854 01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:44,280 Speaker 7: School District have towards law enforcement. 1855 01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:47,680 Speaker 1: Well, and it's a plan which suggests there are steps 1856 01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:51,080 Speaker 1: to be taken in the event ICE shows up. So 1857 01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:53,559 Speaker 1: isn't that information they want to pass along to everybody 1858 01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:56,880 Speaker 1: so people follow the plan, Kurt, you. 1859 01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:59,360 Speaker 16: Would think you know, now in this filing they just 1860 01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:01,439 Speaker 16: made the other day, they said, O, well, this has 1861 01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:05,679 Speaker 16: only been shared with administrators, you know, the nor average 1862 01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:08,160 Speaker 16: staff haven't been made privy to this. 1863 01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:11,320 Speaker 9: Well, that's interesting because one of the sections, you know. 1864 01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:14,560 Speaker 7: Just talks about how bus drivers should respond, and that's redacted. 1865 01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:17,559 Speaker 7: You know, we don't know what it's redacted with bus drivers. 1866 01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:22,800 Speaker 9: So you got this policy, but you're not telling people 1867 01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:26,559 Speaker 9: how to implement it. You know, it's just this grand standing. 1868 01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:29,200 Speaker 7: Like you said at the beginning, you know, it's a 1869 01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:30,879 Speaker 7: solution in search of a problem. 1870 01:38:31,320 --> 01:38:34,080 Speaker 1: And well, the attorney for the school said, you know, 1871 01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:37,160 Speaker 1: since you meant a comment about the education environment and 1872 01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:39,680 Speaker 1: how the students were basically I would argue encouraged to 1873 01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:41,080 Speaker 1: walk out. At least they were told there we're going 1874 01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:43,679 Speaker 1: to be no repercussions to walk out and protesting ICE 1875 01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:47,720 Speaker 1: interrupting the educational environment. Pivoting over to the statement by 1876 01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:50,720 Speaker 1: the attorney rather the district explained the ice response plan 1877 01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:52,880 Speaker 1: was for the purpose of safety and security for students 1878 01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:57,080 Speaker 1: and staff, for protecting and maintaining the educational environment from 1879 01:38:57,200 --> 01:39:00,400 Speaker 1: interference and redactions. We're legitimate understate law. I don't know 1880 01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:03,160 Speaker 1: how you get to redactions where legitim understate law. But look, 1881 01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:06,000 Speaker 1: they're interested in maintaining an educational environment and protecting it. 1882 01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:10,240 Speaker 1: They didn't, so their actions speak a little bit louder 1883 01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:12,479 Speaker 1: than the redacted words in this still yet to be 1884 01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:13,519 Speaker 1: seen plan. 1885 01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:18,200 Speaker 7: Correct, correct, Yeah, it's like I said, so, so it's like, 1886 01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:22,360 Speaker 7: you know, let us see, let us see what are 1887 01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:26,280 Speaker 7: what your attitude is or what are these selected officials? Yeah, 1888 01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:29,200 Speaker 7: you know what their attitude is. Let us see it 1889 01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:31,640 Speaker 7: either your pro law enforcement or you'll be taking a 1890 01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:35,240 Speaker 7: hostile position or towards it. You know, and if you 1891 01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:37,120 Speaker 7: think about you know this, this was a school board 1892 01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:40,360 Speaker 7: that ran on openness and transparency. You know, they're a 1893 01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:43,120 Speaker 7: little buzz where it's all everything's being done in secret, 1894 01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:44,719 Speaker 7: everything's behind closed doors. 1895 01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:46,919 Speaker 9: And within two months they're. 1896 01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:51,920 Speaker 7: In office and guess what they've become that which they disdained, right, 1897 01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:54,240 Speaker 7: But but but that's typical. 1898 01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:55,240 Speaker 9: But that's typical. 1899 01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:58,719 Speaker 7: I think with the left that they will say whatever 1900 01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:00,840 Speaker 7: they have to say to get elect But then you know, 1901 01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:02,920 Speaker 7: they become it becomes rules for thee but not. 1902 01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:07,360 Speaker 1: For me clearly. So we're in we're in motion practice 1903 01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:10,320 Speaker 1: stage right now, you file the claim, what do they 1904 01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:12,400 Speaker 1: file a motion to dismiss. Rather you said. 1905 01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:16,280 Speaker 7: Dismiss, I filed I followed the response yesterday, you know, 1906 01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:19,280 Speaker 7: and it's gonna be denied. The you know, I've done 1907 01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:23,439 Speaker 7: enough public records cases where you know, this type of case. 1908 01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:25,960 Speaker 7: But the courts will say is no, that will tell 1909 01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:29,400 Speaker 7: the school districts submit whatever this plan is unredacted to 1910 01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:31,880 Speaker 7: the court under seal so they can look at it, 1911 01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:34,000 Speaker 7: and then the court's going to decide whether or not 1912 01:40:34,040 --> 01:40:37,360 Speaker 7: this really is a you know, quote unquote security record 1913 01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:41,400 Speaker 7: record to guard against you know, attack, interference, sabotage, or 1914 01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:43,040 Speaker 7: acts of terrorism. 1915 01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:48,040 Speaker 1: Fair enough, Kurt Hartman, Uh, this results in sizable litigation 1916 01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:50,479 Speaker 1: fees getting racked up. I imagine the school district's iner 1917 01:40:50,479 --> 01:40:52,719 Speaker 1: defend its actions. They have to pay lawyers to respond 1918 01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:54,920 Speaker 1: to the motions and go into court and make maybe 1919 01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:57,640 Speaker 1: make the motions and motions that dismiss for example. So 1920 01:40:58,200 --> 01:40:59,800 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, when you win, and 1921 01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:02,120 Speaker 1: I'm confident that you will since you typically do win 1922 01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:04,960 Speaker 1: these Kurt artmen, are they going to be elder or 1923 01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:06,679 Speaker 1: are you going to be eligible to get your retorney's 1924 01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:08,360 Speaker 1: fees covered by a yes? 1925 01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:12,160 Speaker 9: Yes, that's pervision. That's provision of the Public Records Act. 1926 01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:15,840 Speaker 7: So you know, the State LEDs General Assembly and acting 1927 01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:18,280 Speaker 7: this law said hey, we want people, we want to 1928 01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:22,919 Speaker 7: encourage people to bring actions that governments are improperly withholding 1929 01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:25,240 Speaker 7: public records. You should be able to pursue it and 1930 01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:28,320 Speaker 7: not be dependent upon, you know, you having to pay 1931 01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:30,200 Speaker 7: the fees. So at the end of the day, you win, 1932 01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:31,520 Speaker 7: the government. 1933 01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:33,800 Speaker 1: Pays the fees grant. This is typically a contingency feed 1934 01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:37,360 Speaker 1: type case. Kurt correct, fair enough. That means Lisa Delly 1935 01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:38,599 Speaker 1: is going to be on the hook to the extent 1936 01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:41,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't go her way. And I appreciate your willingness 1937 01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:42,960 Speaker 1: to do this kind of work work card. I wish 1938 01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:45,160 Speaker 1: we had more lawyers who would who would do exactly 1939 01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:47,320 Speaker 1: what you do and pursue these kind of cases. 1940 01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:51,200 Speaker 7: Well, I'm glad they're not actually for my faith, but 1941 01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:56,120 Speaker 7: you know, yeah, it's good and you know people people 1942 01:41:56,160 --> 01:41:57,519 Speaker 7: do it, and you know, I get calls all the 1943 01:41:57,560 --> 01:41:59,880 Speaker 7: time on the stuff like this. So but you know 1944 01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:02,080 Speaker 7: they saw I'm out there doing them, fighting for the 1945 01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:03,280 Speaker 7: people to get their records. 1946 01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:05,360 Speaker 1: You are, how quickly will this be turned around? Your 1947 01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:07,439 Speaker 1: brief has been filed, so it's in the court's lap, 1948 01:42:07,479 --> 01:42:08,680 Speaker 1: you say, within thirty days or so. 1949 01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:12,519 Speaker 7: Well, the motion to dismiss will probably be decided, probably 1950 01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:17,240 Speaker 7: within three months. Unfortunately, then the briefing schedule will be 1951 01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:19,920 Speaker 7: a month after that, a probably a decision a year 1952 01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:21,040 Speaker 7: from now. I'm fortunate. 1953 01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:23,280 Speaker 9: Unfortunately these do not move fast. 1954 01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:25,439 Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough on that. And I got to ask, 1955 01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:27,640 Speaker 1: are you aware of any other of our you know, 1956 01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:30,679 Speaker 1: sort of local or slash regional school districts that have 1957 01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:34,280 Speaker 1: an immigrations and custom enforcement response plan? 1958 01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:36,519 Speaker 9: Well? Yeah, yeah, be honest with you. 1959 01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:41,360 Speaker 7: What we did is we actually did a request to Cincinnati, Columbus, Toledo, 1960 01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:46,120 Speaker 7: and Springfield schools for their plans, same request. How are 1961 01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:51,560 Speaker 7: you going to respond? They provided what they had, okay, unredacted. 1962 01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:54,000 Speaker 9: I think the only redaction in one was a cell 1963 01:42:54,040 --> 01:42:54,719 Speaker 9: phone number. 1964 01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:57,360 Speaker 7: A cell phone number. Find I'm not but you know, 1965 01:42:57,520 --> 01:43:00,360 Speaker 7: and you know, it's kind of surprising me. I thought 1966 01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:02,880 Speaker 7: there was some template that was circulating. 1967 01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:02,920 Speaker 1: Of course. 1968 01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:06,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, honestly, they were all unique and distinct. One was 1969 01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:09,400 Speaker 7: just kind of an email that the superintendent sent out 1970 01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:10,760 Speaker 7: the staff saying, Hey, if this. 1971 01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:13,720 Speaker 9: Happens, we need to be professional, you know. 1972 01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:16,439 Speaker 7: But again, so, yeah, we did the inquiry kind of 1973 01:43:16,439 --> 01:43:18,719 Speaker 7: across the state just to see, just to see. 1974 01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:20,599 Speaker 1: Okay, so and it was happening. 1975 01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:22,240 Speaker 9: None of them had an issue. Okay, here it is. 1976 01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:25,400 Speaker 9: Within a day or two, they provided it and unredacted. 1977 01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:27,360 Speaker 1: Better understanding of the law that they're supposed to operate under. 1978 01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:30,360 Speaker 1: That suggests so Forest Hills is out in the wind 1979 01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:33,120 Speaker 1: on that one. Now did you in looking at these 1980 01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:36,360 Speaker 1: other policies, It doesn't sound like you tracked a theme. 1981 01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:40,479 Speaker 1: And I was expecting a one size fits all plan 1982 01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:42,559 Speaker 1: for all the school districts brought to you by some 1983 01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:45,720 Speaker 1: woke teachers union. But there isn't a theme like we 1984 01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:48,080 Speaker 1: need to resist ice, we need to do you know, 1985 01:43:48,160 --> 01:43:50,880 Speaker 1: not invite them in, not cooperate them. That didn't come through, 1986 01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:53,519 Speaker 1: and the ones you looked at that is correct. 1987 01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:56,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, it was essentially not. 1988 01:43:56,880 --> 01:44:00,200 Speaker 7: No, we're not going to outright cooperate, but you know, 1989 01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:02,599 Speaker 7: they need to go go to the office, they need 1990 01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:03,080 Speaker 7: to do this. 1991 01:44:03,320 --> 01:44:06,640 Speaker 9: We need to do that, you know, sure, but but 1992 01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:09,960 Speaker 9: you know most of it was just be calm, be professional, 1993 01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:11,080 Speaker 9: et cetera. 1994 01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:14,439 Speaker 1: Well, that's actually refreshing to hear and surprising, honestly, Kurt 1995 01:44:14,439 --> 01:44:17,040 Speaker 1: Hartman from the Finny Law Firm doing right by the 1996 01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:19,559 Speaker 1: gritter Cincinnati area. Keep fighting the good fight, Kurt. You 1997 01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:21,360 Speaker 1: know you always have a venue to bring this information 1998 01:44:21,400 --> 01:44:23,759 Speaker 1: to our attention. I welcome you anytime you've got something 1999 01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:28,320 Speaker 1: like that, and again applaud your efforts gladly. Enjoy Opening Day, Kurt, 2000 01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:30,640 Speaker 1: have a wonderful one until we talk again. Best of 2001 01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:32,840 Speaker 1: health to you and your family. Eight eighteen, Right now 2002 01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:36,040 Speaker 1: fifty five kr CD Talk Station, iHeartMedia and fifty five 2003 01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:39,120 Speaker 1: kr CIT Talk Station. Happy Friday Eve, Happy Opening Day. 2004 01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:41,200 Speaker 1: Always a special time for me. I get to talk 2005 01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:43,360 Speaker 1: to and you get to heroes talk together. I Heart Media. 2006 01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:45,960 Speaker 1: Aviation Expert Jay Ratliff, Jay, welcome back, my friend. Love 2007 01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:47,040 Speaker 1: having you on my program. 2008 01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:49,160 Speaker 2: Well, happy Opening Day to you. 2009 01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:49,599 Speaker 10: My friend. 2010 01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:53,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll keep our fingers crossed anyhow. Just laughing because 2011 01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:56,719 Speaker 1: someone suggested earlier that if the Reds have a really 2012 01:44:56,760 --> 01:44:59,439 Speaker 1: great season and we start selling out games, a great 2013 01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:01,679 Speaker 1: American Ball, they're gonna have to deal with the curfew. 2014 01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:05,240 Speaker 1: They've apparently relaxed the curfew law because of the opening 2015 01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:07,040 Speaker 1: day and the quantity of people are down there, so 2016 01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:10,000 Speaker 1: no curfew for young people will have to cross that bridge. 2017 01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:12,080 Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll get to that bridge because we'll be doing 2018 01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:12,639 Speaker 1: so well. 2019 01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:15,559 Speaker 2: I would love to think that that would be something 2020 01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:17,240 Speaker 2: we'd have to worry about moving forward. 2021 01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:19,360 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, we all know where the bets are being 2022 01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:22,080 Speaker 1: placed on that anyway, Jay Ratliffe, let's get over to 2023 01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:24,160 Speaker 1: the list of topics we got this morning, and some 2024 01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:26,439 Speaker 1: good ones on the list, starting off with the latest 2025 01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:28,800 Speaker 1: of the New York plane crash Laguardi Airport, and I 2026 01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:31,280 Speaker 1: got to see the video. We talked last week about 2027 01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:33,519 Speaker 1: this because it was kind of still unfolding, and then 2028 01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:36,559 Speaker 1: the video of the plane impacting the fire truck came 2029 01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:38,160 Speaker 1: out and that plane looked like it was going to 2030 01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:40,000 Speaker 1: hell of a lot faster than the twenty twenty five 2031 01:45:40,040 --> 01:45:41,639 Speaker 1: miles prior was originally thought. 2032 01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:44,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that was given off of some of the 2033 01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:48,240 Speaker 2: ground systems that sometimes have a difficult time measuring the 2034 01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:52,240 Speaker 2: ground speed. But that once the NTSB was able to 2035 01:45:52,240 --> 01:45:55,360 Speaker 2: retrieve both of the black boxes, the cockpit voice recorder 2036 01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:58,320 Speaker 2: as well as the flight data recorder. They're going to 2037 01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:01,320 Speaker 2: have all the specifics down to a tee on everything. 2038 01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:03,840 Speaker 2: And one of the things we did find out was 2039 01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:08,160 Speaker 2: one the aircraft was on final approach, the first officer 2040 01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:11,080 Speaker 2: was at the controls. It was it was his plane, 2041 01:46:11,439 --> 01:46:13,559 Speaker 2: and when they broke the clouds and just at the 2042 01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:16,840 Speaker 2: point they had rotated down where the Ford landing gear 2043 01:46:17,240 --> 01:46:20,599 Speaker 2: was on the runway, apparently that's when they spotted the 2044 01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:25,200 Speaker 2: fire truck recognized the emergency at hand. Captain says my airplane. 2045 01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:27,960 Speaker 2: So you've got the more experience to the two taking over, 2046 01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:31,200 Speaker 2: but they simply just didn't have enough time to do much. 2047 01:46:31,240 --> 01:46:33,559 Speaker 2: And you know, one of the things that I continue 2048 01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:35,519 Speaker 2: to look at through all of this is had they 2049 01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:38,800 Speaker 2: veered in any certain way where a fuel tank and 2050 01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:40,920 Speaker 2: one of the wings could have been impacted instead of 2051 01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:43,599 Speaker 2: the nose of the aircraft, right, we could have been 2052 01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:47,600 Speaker 2: talking about totally totally different set of circumstances where we 2053 01:46:47,640 --> 01:46:51,000 Speaker 2: could have had a much more significant loss of life. 2054 01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:56,880 Speaker 2: So a lots being stated about these people that as 2055 01:46:56,920 --> 01:46:59,280 Speaker 2: far as the crew and all, maybe not having as 2056 01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:01,880 Speaker 2: many flight hours as you would like but I think 2057 01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:04,439 Speaker 2: the investigation is going to show that those two pilots 2058 01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:07,479 Speaker 2: did absolutely everything they could with what limited time they 2059 01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:12,200 Speaker 2: had during a time you had a wet runway to 2060 01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:14,280 Speaker 2: try to bring that aircraft to a stop as quickly 2061 01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:14,919 Speaker 2: as possible. 2062 01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:17,240 Speaker 1: Well a stop or the other thought that went through 2063 01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:20,000 Speaker 1: my mind and looking at the video, I appreciate that 2064 01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:23,360 Speaker 1: this is not a realist necessarily a realistic opportunity, but 2065 01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:25,719 Speaker 1: not being a pilot, I got to ask the whole 2066 01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:28,280 Speaker 1: idea of maybe pulling out or doing a quick touch 2067 01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:30,280 Speaker 1: and go, that's that was out of the out of 2068 01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:31,880 Speaker 1: the out of the equation at that moment. 2069 01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:34,960 Speaker 2: Well, that the Delta taxiways is less than a third 2070 01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:37,800 Speaker 2: of the way down the runway, So when you have 2071 01:47:38,080 --> 01:47:40,680 Speaker 2: just landed, if you see there's an emergency and you've 2072 01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:43,400 Speaker 2: got to power up and take off, there's no way 2073 01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:45,840 Speaker 2: they had enough real estate between them and the truck 2074 01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:49,200 Speaker 2: to roll, because again you're talking about touching down in 2075 01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:52,800 Speaker 2: that taxiway being a third of the way or so 2076 01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:56,040 Speaker 2: down the around down the runway, and a lot of 2077 01:47:56,040 --> 01:47:58,639 Speaker 2: individuals are saying, well, Jay, come on the fire truck, 2078 01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:01,680 Speaker 2: how could you not see this airplane coming? But this 2079 01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:07,240 Speaker 2: wasn't a straight across delta taxi way straight across as 2080 01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:11,680 Speaker 2: far as between where the fire truck was progressing, if 2081 01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:14,400 Speaker 2: I'm reading the airport diagrams right, and from what I've seen, 2082 01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:17,960 Speaker 2: it was something that was pointed more away for the aircraft, 2083 01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:21,280 Speaker 2: kind of at a diagonal acrossing of the runway, so 2084 01:48:21,320 --> 01:48:24,200 Speaker 2: that the driver never would have been able to see 2085 01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:26,320 Speaker 2: over his right side as far as the approach of 2086 01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:29,400 Speaker 2: any aircraft, and the person sitting on the right side 2087 01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:31,960 Speaker 2: would have had a difficult time initially. But what we 2088 01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:34,280 Speaker 2: can see from that video that you referenced is that 2089 01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:36,439 Speaker 2: the fire truck did at the last minute try to 2090 01:48:36,439 --> 01:48:40,479 Speaker 2: turn away, but obviously, you know, not nearly enough, not 2091 01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:44,160 Speaker 2: soon enough for that impact to take place. But just 2092 01:48:44,200 --> 01:48:46,360 Speaker 2: a lot of things here in the NTSB chief is 2093 01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:49,240 Speaker 2: going to continue to give us a briefings, and I 2094 01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:50,960 Speaker 2: think that all of this is going to show that 2095 01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:54,519 Speaker 2: there is a series of things that perhaps we could 2096 01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:56,639 Speaker 2: have done better. One of the topics that keeps coming 2097 01:48:56,720 --> 01:49:00,000 Speaker 2: up is the fact that the airport there is equipped 2098 01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:02,200 Speaker 2: just one of the I think thirty thirty five airports 2099 01:49:02,240 --> 01:49:04,800 Speaker 2: in the country that have got the technology where they 2100 01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:09,920 Speaker 2: can put transponders on the ground equipment where they can 2101 01:49:10,360 --> 01:49:13,400 Speaker 2: make sure where everything's at at all times, and this 2102 01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:15,800 Speaker 2: fire truck was not equipped with that. So I think 2103 01:49:15,840 --> 01:49:18,799 Speaker 2: one of the many recommendations that the NTSB will probably 2104 01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:22,760 Speaker 2: roll out is let's make the most of the technology 2105 01:49:22,800 --> 01:49:25,920 Speaker 2: that we have in place at these airports to try 2106 01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:28,519 Speaker 2: to do what we can again to keep things off 2107 01:49:28,520 --> 01:49:29,720 Speaker 2: the runway that shouldn't be there. 2108 01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:31,920 Speaker 1: Well, Jay, you know the old thing my parents taught me, 2109 01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:33,640 Speaker 1: You look both ways before you across the street. And 2110 01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:35,360 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I don't want to cast any aspersions on 2111 01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:37,200 Speaker 1: the fire truck crew, but you know, the world's an 2112 01:49:37,200 --> 01:49:40,040 Speaker 1: imperfect place. Wouldn't it be a great idea, just as 2113 01:49:40,080 --> 01:49:43,439 Speaker 1: a matter of default and practice and protocol, that before 2114 01:49:43,479 --> 01:49:46,080 Speaker 1: you cross the runway you'll look on either side because 2115 01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:49,280 Speaker 1: air traffic control can be overwhelmed and sometimes they get 2116 01:49:49,280 --> 01:49:50,960 Speaker 1: it wrong, so let's do a double check. I know 2117 01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:53,599 Speaker 1: that I've gotten the nose of my car torn off 2118 01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:56,800 Speaker 1: because I trusted the green light gave me straight an 2119 01:49:56,880 --> 01:50:00,040 Speaker 1: opportunity to go ahead without looking either way, only to 2120 01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:02,240 Speaker 1: have someone blow through a red light and crash. Enemy. 2121 01:50:02,280 --> 01:50:04,240 Speaker 1: I never do that again. I get a green light 2122 01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:06,919 Speaker 1: I look both ways before I proceed into the intersection. 2123 01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:10,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and pause just a bit. But you know, in 2124 01:50:10,240 --> 01:50:13,280 Speaker 2: the pilots when they're cleared to land, they recognize anything 2125 01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:15,160 Speaker 2: can happen at any time, So keep your head on 2126 01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:18,360 Speaker 2: a swivel and look out for everything and anticipate a 2127 01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:21,280 Speaker 2: lot of different scenarios. And I'm sure that the fire 2128 01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:24,280 Speaker 2: crew is trained to do the same thing. Now, they 2129 01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:26,920 Speaker 2: were responding to an emergency. They're trying to get their 2130 01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:29,040 Speaker 2: head around what they're going to be doing when they 2131 01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:31,720 Speaker 2: get to that United flight that had declared an emergency 2132 01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:33,880 Speaker 2: because of odors on the plane with one of the 2133 01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:37,160 Speaker 2: crew members falling ill. So I know their mind was 2134 01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:40,679 Speaker 2: probably there, but you know, you trust their traffic control 2135 01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:43,479 Speaker 2: when you're giving clearance to land or clearance to cross 2136 01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:47,320 Speaker 2: that it's okay to do so. But you're right, And again, 2137 01:50:47,360 --> 01:50:50,840 Speaker 2: the investigation will show different things. Fortunately the two individuals 2138 01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:53,960 Speaker 2: in the truck survived, so they will be able to 2139 01:50:53,960 --> 01:50:56,880 Speaker 2: be interviewed and they'll be able to give you a 2140 01:50:56,960 --> 01:51:00,800 Speaker 2: moment by moment account of exactly what took place, and 2141 01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:03,120 Speaker 2: I think that's going to help the investigators as well. 2142 01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:07,160 Speaker 2: And yeah, we'll see where the investigation goes and again 2143 01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:09,760 Speaker 2: hopefully we can find many things that we can put 2144 01:51:09,800 --> 01:51:11,960 Speaker 2: into place to make things safer for Fuddy on the 2145 01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:13,160 Speaker 2: ground than certainly in the plane. 2146 01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:16,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like a better communication between helicopters and 2147 01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:19,719 Speaker 1: flying around Reagan Airport. That comes to mind too, Jay Ratleff, 2148 01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:23,680 Speaker 1: let's pauseble bring Jay ratlet talk about Oh look, TSA 2149 01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:27,679 Speaker 1: lines and maybe even still possible closures of airports. More 2150 01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:32,519 Speaker 1: with Jay RADLERFT stick around fifty five Car Todd krc 2151 01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:33,719 Speaker 1: lead talk station. 2152 01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:36,320 Speaker 7: Have you ever been in a cockpit before? 2153 01:51:36,840 --> 01:51:37,000 Speaker 11: Hey? 2154 01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:39,439 Speaker 1: Thirty nine to fifty about KRCD talk station. Brian Thomas 2155 01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:42,719 Speaker 1: with iHeart Media aviation expert Jay Rally. Jay, my friend 2156 01:51:42,720 --> 01:51:44,840 Speaker 1: Maureen Gott touched me issues and waiting in the airport 2157 01:51:44,840 --> 01:51:47,400 Speaker 1: in Florida. Heated your advice. Got word went around that, 2158 01:51:47,479 --> 01:51:49,880 Speaker 1: you know, TSA lines are really really long. Of course 2159 01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:51,800 Speaker 1: because of the government shut down, they're not being paid, 2160 01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:53,679 Speaker 1: they're not showing up. They have to get second jobs 2161 01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:56,639 Speaker 1: or they have to quit. Ice jumped in and tried 2162 01:51:56,640 --> 01:51:58,240 Speaker 1: to solve some of the problem. We'll ask you how 2163 01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:01,200 Speaker 1: that's going. But her point was she showed up four 2164 01:52:01,200 --> 01:52:04,599 Speaker 1: hours early, there was no line she got right through 2165 01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:07,160 Speaker 1: and then only to find out her flight has been 2166 01:52:07,200 --> 01:52:10,439 Speaker 1: delayed because there are problems that other airports. Ripple effect, 2167 01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:12,320 Speaker 1: meaning she's going to be stuck at the airport for 2168 01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:15,160 Speaker 1: at least eight hours before she can get out. Jay, 2169 01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:17,240 Speaker 1: this is a ripple effect problem, is it not? 2170 01:52:18,160 --> 01:52:22,960 Speaker 2: It is although you can't we can't attribute a lot 2171 01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:26,160 Speaker 2: of the flight delays to the airport issues because airlines 2172 01:52:26,160 --> 01:52:27,960 Speaker 2: are going to dispatch those airplanes as much as they 2173 01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:30,280 Speaker 2: can right on time or as close to it as possible, 2174 01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:33,559 Speaker 2: because delays cost them a great deal of money. Plus 2175 01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:37,360 Speaker 2: they've already got our money. So you know, the airlines 2176 01:52:37,360 --> 01:52:40,120 Speaker 2: are saying that, look, if you want to change your 2177 01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:42,679 Speaker 2: itinerary flight at a later time when maybe things aren't 2178 01:52:42,720 --> 01:52:46,120 Speaker 2: quite as crazy, they've issued a waiver which means that 2179 01:52:46,160 --> 01:52:48,840 Speaker 2: we can change our reservations absent of a change fee, 2180 01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:51,680 Speaker 2: which is really really you know, kind of them and 2181 01:52:51,720 --> 01:52:55,799 Speaker 2: good to see. But what I'm seeing is in Houston 2182 01:52:55,840 --> 01:52:59,599 Speaker 2: and Atlanta and other places, we're seeing the TSA lines 2183 01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:03,000 Speaker 2: get your So the processing time is getting better because 2184 01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:07,559 Speaker 2: those TSA agents are helping again. They can manage exit lanes, 2185 01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:11,280 Speaker 2: they can help facilitate the movement of the people that 2186 01:53:11,320 --> 01:53:12,840 Speaker 2: are there. They can do a lot of the non 2187 01:53:12,920 --> 01:53:16,680 Speaker 2: technical side of things while being there. And Brian, what 2188 01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:19,439 Speaker 2: I continue to see is exactly what I expected. The 2189 01:53:19,439 --> 01:53:23,000 Speaker 2: more interaction that passengers have with ICE agents, the more 2190 01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:26,000 Speaker 2: they see that, oh my gosh, these people aren't the devil, 2191 01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:30,200 Speaker 2: They're not bad at all. They're kill me exactly. So, 2192 01:53:31,200 --> 01:53:34,680 Speaker 2: if you're on the Democratic side of the discussion and 2193 01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:37,439 Speaker 2: you're thrilled with the chaos that's being created because of 2194 01:53:37,720 --> 01:53:40,720 Speaker 2: the shutdown, one President Trump has stepped in to try 2195 01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:42,280 Speaker 2: to stop that, and I think it was a great 2196 01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:45,000 Speaker 2: move operationally. But the other thing you need to look 2197 01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:47,240 Speaker 2: out for is when you have hundreds and hundreds of 2198 01:53:47,240 --> 01:53:50,599 Speaker 2: thousands of people to start interacting with these ICE agents 2199 01:53:50,640 --> 01:53:52,439 Speaker 2: and they recognize that there are men and women just 2200 01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:55,840 Speaker 2: like everybody else, and maybe the way that they've been 2201 01:53:55,880 --> 01:53:59,000 Speaker 2: portrayed by some media is a little bit, shall we 2202 01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:02,040 Speaker 2: say off. I think that that interaction, the longer that 2203 01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:04,360 Speaker 2: it goes, is only going to work to the betterment 2204 01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:07,840 Speaker 2: of the ICE image, and I don't think it's going 2205 01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:09,880 Speaker 2: to go quite the way that we're seeing. A lot 2206 01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:12,960 Speaker 2: of the Democrats wanted to go, and that's one of 2207 01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:15,200 Speaker 2: the reasons I think that we're seeing so many of 2208 01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:18,160 Speaker 2: them scream get Ice out of the airports. Yeah, I 2209 01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:20,200 Speaker 2: know why you want them out of the airports because 2210 01:54:20,200 --> 01:54:23,200 Speaker 2: of the fact that that interaction with passengers is going 2211 01:54:23,280 --> 01:54:23,639 Speaker 2: so good. 2212 01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:29,120 Speaker 1: Their game plan is to cause pain to their constituents, yes, 2213 01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:32,120 Speaker 1: and ICE will take away the pain, obviously having an 2214 01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:34,720 Speaker 1: impact on their claim that Ice are a bunch of murderers. 2215 01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:38,160 Speaker 1: So it's a two fold benefit for the Trump administration. 2216 01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:41,600 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, it was a double win politically and operationally 2217 01:54:41,640 --> 01:54:43,800 Speaker 2: when it when it happened, I thought, you know, that 2218 01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:46,680 Speaker 2: was really a stroke of genius because you know, he's 2219 01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:49,440 Speaker 2: solving the problem as much as he can because it's 2220 01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:52,280 Speaker 2: out of his hands. It's it's the people in Congress 2221 01:54:52,360 --> 01:54:54,680 Speaker 2: got to get this thing done. Yeah, and so as 2222 01:54:54,720 --> 01:54:58,120 Speaker 2: a result, he's like, well, I can't fix it, but 2223 01:54:58,200 --> 01:55:00,520 Speaker 2: what I can do is try to leave you some 2224 01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:04,280 Speaker 2: of these delays at certain airports and deploying ICE, which 2225 01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:06,360 Speaker 2: you know you just mentioned that word people going to 2226 01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:10,040 Speaker 2: hysterics was certainly a great idea because these are highly 2227 01:55:10,080 --> 01:55:13,960 Speaker 2: trained government agents and employees, and look, they're trained in 2228 01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:16,200 Speaker 2: law enforcement. It's always good to have an extra set 2229 01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:19,040 Speaker 2: of those hands around the security checkpoint as well, and 2230 01:55:19,080 --> 01:55:21,880 Speaker 2: they're doing a great job. So look, I know they're 2231 01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:23,800 Speaker 2: limited what they can do, but if they can free 2232 01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:27,160 Speaker 2: up other individuals to do other things, it's going to 2233 01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:29,320 Speaker 2: do nothing but help. And when you see the number 2234 01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:31,360 Speaker 2: of people that are calling in, I mean some of 2235 01:55:31,360 --> 01:55:33,320 Speaker 2: these folks have missed more than a month of paychecks 2236 01:55:33,800 --> 01:55:36,760 Speaker 2: and they've got to put food on the table. I 2237 01:55:36,960 --> 01:55:40,440 Speaker 2: totally totally get it. And Brandon, this can't go much 2238 01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:43,400 Speaker 2: longer because you just can't expect people to show up 2239 01:55:43,480 --> 01:55:46,480 Speaker 2: for work, cheerfully, be there, do the job keeping all 2240 01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:48,640 Speaker 2: of us safe, and you know we'll pay you when 2241 01:55:48,680 --> 01:55:49,600 Speaker 2: we get around to it. 2242 01:55:50,240 --> 01:55:54,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's I don't understand how they don't understand 2243 01:55:54,080 --> 01:55:55,880 Speaker 1: the optics and how terrible it is for them, but 2244 01:55:55,880 --> 01:55:58,000 Speaker 1: they'll struggle with it. And near the other opponent of 2245 01:55:58,040 --> 01:56:00,520 Speaker 1: this and I hesitate to even say it out, but 2246 01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:03,520 Speaker 1: since the FBI has warned the American people generally speaking 2247 01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:06,320 Speaker 1: about large concentrated groups of people and keep your eyes 2248 01:56:06,360 --> 01:56:09,440 Speaker 1: peeled Opening Day Parade, the DEM's playing with fire on this. 2249 01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:12,560 Speaker 1: And not only do you have those massive unnecessary lines 2250 01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:15,000 Speaker 1: and packfull of areas of the airport that have not 2251 01:56:15,120 --> 01:56:18,720 Speaker 1: yet been screened. There's a potential there for a terrorist action, 2252 01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:21,080 Speaker 1: maybe even on an airplane. Nobody wants that to happen. 2253 01:56:21,160 --> 01:56:23,080 Speaker 1: But if that were to happen, I don't know how 2254 01:56:23,080 --> 01:56:25,960 Speaker 1: they get out from underneath that problem they created. 2255 01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:29,920 Speaker 2: I agree because it's well, you know, it's just a 2256 01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:32,640 Speaker 2: matter of what's the crisis and how can we find 2257 01:56:32,640 --> 01:56:35,640 Speaker 2: a way to blame it on our opposition? And instead 2258 01:56:35,640 --> 01:56:38,160 Speaker 2: of really trying to solve problems, it's a perception problem, 2259 01:56:38,160 --> 01:56:41,440 Speaker 2: and they manage the perception of security and leadership instead 2260 01:56:41,440 --> 01:56:44,080 Speaker 2: of actually doing things. And we all know this, and 2261 01:56:44,120 --> 01:56:46,480 Speaker 2: we all get frustrated, but we keep sending the same 2262 01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:50,200 Speaker 2: bozos back to DC every single time, and it's like, 2263 01:56:50,400 --> 01:56:55,960 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you know, this is what the consequences are 2264 01:56:56,040 --> 01:56:58,560 Speaker 2: for us voting to the same person back in and 2265 01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:00,000 Speaker 2: I don't care which side of the aisle they're all. 2266 01:57:00,160 --> 01:57:02,600 Speaker 2: It just frustrates me because look, you know, last week 2267 01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:04,680 Speaker 2: we hit the thirty nine trillion dollar mark in the 2268 01:57:04,760 --> 01:57:06,880 Speaker 2: national debt. Took us five months from the time we 2269 01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:08,920 Speaker 2: hit thirty eight. It's going to take us less than 2270 01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:13,600 Speaker 2: five to hit hit forty and zero zero zero urgency 2271 01:57:13,640 --> 01:57:15,200 Speaker 2: to address that or take care of it, just like 2272 01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:18,080 Speaker 2: the social security mess that were just years away from 2273 01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:21,160 Speaker 2: it blowing up in our face. So there's no leadership there. 2274 01:57:21,200 --> 01:57:24,120 Speaker 2: So and that's why when I hear these individuals talk 2275 01:57:24,160 --> 01:57:27,480 Speaker 2: about the Constitution, Declaration of Independence and how outdated that 2276 01:57:27,560 --> 01:57:30,880 Speaker 2: these people can't couldn't create something that could last twenty years, 2277 01:57:31,160 --> 01:57:33,080 Speaker 2: not two hundred and fifty years. So when I hear 2278 01:57:33,160 --> 01:57:37,560 Speaker 2: them spouting off about how this or that needed to 2279 01:57:37,600 --> 01:57:40,200 Speaker 2: be changed, I'm thinking, well, maybe, but certainly not by you, 2280 01:57:40,240 --> 01:57:42,720 Speaker 2: because you can't fix any single problem that lands on 2281 01:57:42,760 --> 01:57:43,160 Speaker 2: your desk. 2282 01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:45,120 Speaker 1: See, this is one of the reasons I love talking 2283 01:57:45,240 --> 01:57:48,920 Speaker 1: on the program Jay have at it. Oh, I'm just 2284 01:57:49,720 --> 01:57:51,280 Speaker 1: I love it. 2285 01:57:50,920 --> 01:57:53,560 Speaker 2: I love our country. And when we've traveled the world, 2286 01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:55,600 Speaker 2: people come up to Sherry and I when they hear 2287 01:57:55,680 --> 01:57:58,280 Speaker 2: speaking English, and they ask us what it's like to 2288 01:57:58,280 --> 01:58:01,160 Speaker 2: be an American. What's it like to be to have 2289 01:58:01,200 --> 01:58:03,800 Speaker 2: the freedom to start your own business, or you know, 2290 01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:06,200 Speaker 2: to buy land instead of like when we were in China, 2291 01:58:06,200 --> 01:58:08,400 Speaker 2: where you can rent it from the government for seventy 2292 01:58:08,480 --> 01:58:10,440 Speaker 2: years before you have to give it back. I mean, 2293 01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:13,640 Speaker 2: all of these things that we just take so casually 2294 01:58:13,720 --> 01:58:16,360 Speaker 2: for granted. And then I see somebody here with a little, 2295 01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:19,320 Speaker 2: you know, frown on their face, the sourpuss, and talk 2296 01:58:19,360 --> 01:58:22,560 Speaker 2: about how bad things are. And my first question is always, well, 2297 01:58:22,640 --> 01:58:24,280 Speaker 2: I mean, how many other countries have you been to? 2298 01:58:24,360 --> 01:58:27,080 Speaker 2: In which country have you observed? Personally? That's better? Oh 2299 01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:29,160 Speaker 2: you don't need to travel to know how bad? 2300 01:58:29,280 --> 01:58:29,960 Speaker 7: Oh? 2301 01:58:30,040 --> 01:58:30,560 Speaker 2: Yes you do. 2302 01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:31,440 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah. 2303 01:58:31,520 --> 01:58:35,480 Speaker 2: Perception and perspective go hand in hand there. And it 2304 01:58:35,600 --> 01:58:38,240 Speaker 2: just bothers me because look, I won the lottery being 2305 01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:40,360 Speaker 2: born an American, and I'm never going to take that 2306 01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:40,920 Speaker 2: for granted. 2307 01:58:41,400 --> 01:58:43,680 Speaker 1: Good and we'll bring it back. Is this an opportunity 2308 01:58:43,720 --> 01:58:47,360 Speaker 1: to join the mile high club? United Airlines relax Row plus? 2309 01:58:48,160 --> 01:58:51,200 Speaker 1: What is a customer of size going over to Southwest Airlines? We' 2310 01:58:51,200 --> 01:58:53,800 Speaker 1: get a couple of seat policy changes with Jay after 2311 01:58:53,800 --> 01:58:55,080 Speaker 1: these three words. 2312 01:58:55,160 --> 01:58:57,680 Speaker 5: Fifty five KRC dot com. 2313 01:58:57,520 --> 01:59:01,760 Speaker 1: He talks Facer eight forty nine here fifty five parirseit 2314 01:59:01,800 --> 01:59:03,600 Speaker 1: de talk station Bryan Simas. With Jay Ratliffe, I heard 2315 01:59:03,600 --> 01:59:07,040 Speaker 1: need the aviation expert and political commentator, which I love. 2316 01:59:07,520 --> 01:59:10,080 Speaker 1: Jay Rattliff. I got two new seat policies into one. 2317 01:59:10,160 --> 01:59:12,400 Speaker 1: Wasn't on the list that will be answering the question 2318 01:59:12,440 --> 01:59:15,600 Speaker 1: over at Southwest what is a customer of size? But first, 2319 01:59:15,960 --> 01:59:18,120 Speaker 1: the one that you put down, which looks like I 2320 01:59:18,160 --> 01:59:19,960 Speaker 1: don't know, based upon the photograph you sent me an 2321 01:59:19,960 --> 01:59:22,200 Speaker 1: opportunity to join the mile high club made easier by 2322 01:59:22,280 --> 01:59:24,440 Speaker 1: United Airlines. I know I'm wrong on that, but that 2323 01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:25,520 Speaker 1: looks like a bed to me. 2324 01:59:26,480 --> 01:59:29,240 Speaker 2: It's a couch. Yeah, and I did not send it 2325 01:59:29,280 --> 01:59:31,000 Speaker 2: to you with that in mind. But that is the 2326 01:59:31,040 --> 01:59:36,840 Speaker 2: story of the day in the United Airlines is doing 2327 01:59:37,560 --> 01:59:41,760 Speaker 2: a lot like Lusanza and a Zealand is doing, saying 2328 01:59:41,760 --> 01:59:44,839 Speaker 2: that we will on some of our wide bodied aircraft, 2329 01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:48,440 Speaker 2: which are the longer flights, we'll give you the opportunity 2330 01:59:48,560 --> 01:59:51,600 Speaker 2: if at the time of departure there's empty seats and 2331 01:59:51,640 --> 01:59:54,080 Speaker 2: you want to buy the row, you can buy a row, 2332 01:59:54,840 --> 01:59:57,440 Speaker 2: pay a little bit more money and we will give 2333 01:59:57,440 --> 01:59:59,240 Speaker 2: you a little couch type of thing you can lay down. 2334 01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:01,000 Speaker 2: We'll give you a special seat belt that you can 2335 02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:03,560 Speaker 2: be secured in there. We'll give you a little pillow, 2336 02:00:03,600 --> 02:00:05,280 Speaker 2: little blank if your kids are there, give them a 2337 02:00:05,280 --> 02:00:08,360 Speaker 2: little stuffed animal. Yeah. So the thought is and this 2338 02:00:08,480 --> 02:00:11,680 Speaker 2: is brilliant. It's one of the ways airlines just continue 2339 02:00:11,720 --> 02:00:14,000 Speaker 2: to find a way to squeeze at every penny we can, 2340 02:00:14,240 --> 02:00:16,640 Speaker 2: because let's say you've got a wide bodied aircraft that's 2341 02:00:16,760 --> 02:00:19,240 Speaker 2: twenty five percent empty, and you're thinking, how can we 2342 02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:21,000 Speaker 2: get more revenue from the people that are on there, 2343 02:00:21,000 --> 02:00:23,600 Speaker 2: because we can't sell any more seats. Ah, let's tell 2344 02:00:23,600 --> 02:00:26,360 Speaker 2: people that can buy the whole row. You know, maybe 2345 02:00:26,360 --> 02:00:28,520 Speaker 2: not as much as it would be triple the cost, 2346 02:00:28,600 --> 02:00:30,480 Speaker 2: but yeah, you can get your seat in the two 2347 02:00:30,520 --> 02:00:34,360 Speaker 2: next to you at a slightly additional fee, and you 2348 02:00:34,400 --> 02:00:37,240 Speaker 2: can just lay down and enjoy the longer flight. So 2349 02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:41,400 Speaker 2: it's brilliant and United's the first US carrier to do it. 2350 02:00:41,800 --> 02:00:45,400 Speaker 2: And the thought is that you can relax and look 2351 02:00:45,400 --> 02:00:47,240 Speaker 2: at I remember back in the eighties when I got 2352 02:00:47,240 --> 02:00:49,840 Speaker 2: started in the airline industry early in those years nineteen 2353 02:00:49,880 --> 02:00:52,480 Speaker 2: eighty one, some of our load factors are forty five 2354 02:00:52,600 --> 02:00:55,360 Speaker 2: forty seven percent. You would frequently be on a plane 2355 02:00:55,440 --> 02:00:58,080 Speaker 2: when you know the door shuts, flight tensions, move wherever 2356 02:00:58,120 --> 02:00:59,800 Speaker 2: you want, and you can have a whole road to yourself. 2357 02:01:00,120 --> 02:01:02,680 Speaker 2: Those days are obviously gone. But now your lines have 2358 02:01:02,680 --> 02:01:04,840 Speaker 2: found a way that if the flight's not entirely full 2359 02:01:04,960 --> 02:01:07,320 Speaker 2: and you are working and you want extra room, have 2360 02:01:07,360 --> 02:01:09,360 Speaker 2: the whole road to yourself, or you want you and 2361 02:01:09,440 --> 02:01:12,320 Speaker 2: your wife to or you know whatever, there's a way 2362 02:01:12,360 --> 02:01:14,960 Speaker 2: to do it, of course in an additional cost, but hey, 2363 02:01:15,200 --> 02:01:16,240 Speaker 2: what a great idea. 2364 02:01:16,240 --> 02:01:18,640 Speaker 1: Great idea. You know. One of the best flights I 2365 02:01:18,680 --> 02:01:21,040 Speaker 1: was ever on, Jay Ratliff, I was the only passenger 2366 02:01:21,480 --> 02:01:23,560 Speaker 1: on one of the small jets coming in from Chicago 2367 02:01:23,600 --> 02:01:26,720 Speaker 1: to Cincinnati. H what happened to everyting? You know? Who 2368 02:01:26,760 --> 02:01:28,760 Speaker 1: sat down next to me and gave me free drinks 2369 02:01:28,760 --> 02:01:34,000 Speaker 1: for the whole flight? The flight attendant, absolutely, she was friendly. 2370 02:01:34,160 --> 02:01:37,120 Speaker 1: I'll tell you she was friendly, Edie. 2371 02:01:38,120 --> 02:01:41,280 Speaker 2: It's nice. And you know, if they can also do 2372 02:01:41,320 --> 02:01:43,800 Speaker 2: they sometimes they'll do a high performance takeoff. If they've 2373 02:01:43,840 --> 02:01:45,360 Speaker 2: just got one on board and you're having fun with 2374 02:01:45,360 --> 02:01:48,600 Speaker 2: the pilots, they'll be like, okay, and they'll send a 2375 02:01:48,640 --> 02:01:50,920 Speaker 2: little faster than normal. Just have a little bit of fun. 2376 02:01:51,000 --> 02:01:52,600 Speaker 2: And you know that's always enjoyable as. 2377 02:01:52,560 --> 02:01:55,040 Speaker 1: Well, no doubt about it. And moving over, what is 2378 02:01:55,080 --> 02:01:57,640 Speaker 1: a customer of size? I guess it's if you spill over, 2379 02:01:57,880 --> 02:02:01,120 Speaker 1: or as Southwestern refer it to his customers who encroach 2380 02:02:01,360 --> 02:02:03,640 Speaker 1: upon their neighboring seats, I guess they're in for an 2381 02:02:03,640 --> 02:02:06,000 Speaker 1: additional charge now. To pick caught people by surprise. 2382 02:02:06,080 --> 02:02:09,240 Speaker 2: Jay, Well, you know it used to be with Southwest 2383 02:02:09,320 --> 02:02:12,440 Speaker 2: that you could pay for the seat and then if 2384 02:02:12,440 --> 02:02:15,840 Speaker 2: the flight was only so so empty, that you could 2385 02:02:15,840 --> 02:02:19,800 Speaker 2: request a refund for the one seat that you had 2386 02:02:19,800 --> 02:02:22,240 Speaker 2: to pay extra. And a lot of people are calling 2387 02:02:22,280 --> 02:02:25,000 Speaker 2: this a fat tax, because what's happened is Southwest has 2388 02:02:25,040 --> 02:02:28,280 Speaker 2: changed their policy where they only do this if the 2389 02:02:28,320 --> 02:02:31,160 Speaker 2: flight's not sold out or is sold out, and you 2390 02:02:31,240 --> 02:02:34,120 Speaker 2: have a shorter period of time to request the refund. 2391 02:02:34,440 --> 02:02:37,000 Speaker 2: And there's people that have gone to social media saying, hey, look, 2392 02:02:37,040 --> 02:02:41,800 Speaker 2: Southwest is you know, singled me out because of my size, 2393 02:02:41,840 --> 02:02:44,520 Speaker 2: and you know that's not really the case. What happens, 2394 02:02:44,520 --> 02:02:46,520 Speaker 2: and I've had to have these conversations with people at 2395 02:02:46,520 --> 02:02:48,920 Speaker 2: the airport is to explain to them that they simply 2396 02:02:48,920 --> 02:02:52,760 Speaker 2: won't be comfortable in a seat by themselves like that, 2397 02:02:52,800 --> 02:02:55,280 Speaker 2: and they need a second seat. And I normally blame 2398 02:02:55,320 --> 02:02:57,280 Speaker 2: it on the fact that the seats are getting smaller, 2399 02:02:57,320 --> 02:02:59,400 Speaker 2: and of course the airline's doing what they can here 2400 02:02:59,440 --> 02:03:02,200 Speaker 2: to to cram as many seats on an airplane. And 2401 02:03:02,320 --> 02:03:04,959 Speaker 2: you tell people that because of their big bone structure 2402 02:03:05,000 --> 02:03:07,400 Speaker 2: that they just need a little bit more room, and 2403 02:03:07,880 --> 02:03:10,640 Speaker 2: you know, most people that have flown understand that it's 2404 02:03:10,640 --> 02:03:13,000 Speaker 2: a sensitive conversation that you have kind of away from 2405 02:03:13,000 --> 02:03:15,720 Speaker 2: everybody else. But there are times when you have to 2406 02:03:15,760 --> 02:03:19,160 Speaker 2: pay for an extra seat. And of course Southwest has 2407 02:03:19,200 --> 02:03:22,040 Speaker 2: been very accommodating in a lot of regards to this 2408 02:03:22,120 --> 02:03:23,920 Speaker 2: in the past, and they've kind of been their own 2409 02:03:23,920 --> 02:03:26,480 Speaker 2: worst enemy because now that they're tightening up the restrictions 2410 02:03:26,560 --> 02:03:29,600 Speaker 2: just a bit, there's a pushback and it becomes okay, 2411 02:03:29,640 --> 02:03:31,920 Speaker 2: this is all about revenue now. No, Southwest is kind 2412 02:03:31,960 --> 02:03:34,440 Speaker 2: of adopting the same policy every other carrier is doing 2413 02:03:34,760 --> 02:03:36,920 Speaker 2: and trying to be as sensitive as they can on it. 2414 02:03:37,080 --> 02:03:39,800 Speaker 2: I certainly don't have any problem with what they're doing, 2415 02:03:40,640 --> 02:03:42,880 Speaker 2: but again, because of how things have been in the past, 2416 02:03:43,160 --> 02:03:47,200 Speaker 2: now kind of translate it into Southwest Airlines not caring 2417 02:03:47,240 --> 02:03:48,880 Speaker 2: right now, that's to me not the case. 2418 02:03:49,040 --> 02:03:50,880 Speaker 1: Finishing up as we always do on hub delay. As 2419 02:03:50,880 --> 02:03:53,440 Speaker 1: little reluctant to ask the question, even given the TSA's 2420 02:03:53,480 --> 02:03:56,280 Speaker 1: problems we're facing here, but in so far as travel today, 2421 02:03:56,320 --> 02:03:57,280 Speaker 1: what's your take on at Jay. 2422 02:03:57,240 --> 02:04:02,080 Speaker 2: Ratlis weatherwise minor issue Minneapolis and maybe Detroit, and again 2423 02:04:02,240 --> 02:04:04,720 Speaker 2: I cite minor minor Miner's going to be a beautiful 2424 02:04:04,760 --> 02:04:07,640 Speaker 2: day to fly. However, we are still having pockets of 2425 02:04:07,720 --> 02:04:10,400 Speaker 2: some of the TSA lines being longer than expected. Now, look, 2426 02:04:10,400 --> 02:04:12,720 Speaker 2: we are very spoiled here at CBG, as you mentioned 2427 02:04:12,720 --> 02:04:14,720 Speaker 2: this morning when we let off, so a lot of 2428 02:04:14,720 --> 02:04:16,640 Speaker 2: people say, well, it's not that bad. So when they 2429 02:04:16,640 --> 02:04:19,280 Speaker 2: come back from some of these other cities, they're expecting 2430 02:04:19,280 --> 02:04:21,840 Speaker 2: to have the same sort of staffing that we have here. 2431 02:04:22,680 --> 02:04:24,800 Speaker 2: Not the case always. And the best thing to do 2432 02:04:24,880 --> 02:04:26,960 Speaker 2: is when you get to certain airports, just pull off 2433 02:04:26,960 --> 02:04:29,320 Speaker 2: and ask one of the TSA agents or supervisors say, 2434 02:04:29,320 --> 02:04:32,480 Speaker 2: look them scheduled to fly back next Tuesday. You know 2435 02:04:32,520 --> 02:04:35,040 Speaker 2: what's going on? How much time should I allow coming back? 2436 02:04:35,080 --> 02:04:37,480 Speaker 2: And they will be very forthcoming and saying, hey, glad 2437 02:04:37,520 --> 02:04:39,920 Speaker 2: you asked about three hours. Should do it for whatever 2438 02:04:39,920 --> 02:04:42,760 Speaker 2: it might happen to be. Because yes, it's bad enough 2439 02:04:42,760 --> 02:04:44,680 Speaker 2: that we have to endure travel now, Brian, we have 2440 02:04:44,720 --> 02:04:46,680 Speaker 2: to worry about what the conditions are going to be 2441 02:04:46,720 --> 02:04:49,400 Speaker 2: like when we get back to the airport. Commnagine going 2442 02:04:49,440 --> 02:04:53,080 Speaker 2: on vacation, trying to relax, worrying about you know, your 2443 02:04:53,080 --> 02:04:56,240 Speaker 2: return trip and whether or not yeh, let's get back 2444 02:04:56,280 --> 02:04:59,440 Speaker 2: to at least where we were at before all this mess, 2445 02:04:59,640 --> 02:05:00,840 Speaker 2: and get people back moving. 2446 02:05:01,080 --> 02:05:01,120 Speaker 15: I