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Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic continues dom Canzone versus Cal Raley tonight,

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Speaker 1: Italy versus America at six o'clock Japan, where they nine

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Speaker 1: to nothing went over at CHECKI earlier today. Now here's

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Speaker 1: the big story coming out of the World Baseball Classic

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Speaker 1: at least, and I would say it's the biggest story

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Speaker 1: across the country in baseball right now. I mean, dick,

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Speaker 1: If you go to the front page of s spinnin

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Speaker 1: dot com, it's sitting right there, a Rose Arena unleashes

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Speaker 1: rally rant over WBC snub right there in a front

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Speaker 1: page of ESPN dot com, right underneath a story of

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Speaker 1: from Tottenham, by the way, sitting right there, Randy Arose

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Speaker 1: Arena pissed off at cal Raley. Now there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of people that have come out today and they've said

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Speaker 1: that Randy Arose Arena is just playing around with cal Raley.

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Speaker 1: So let me just set the scene here, and if

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong on any of this, feel free to jump in. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So Mexico and the US was playing last night, a

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Speaker 1: Rose Arena walks up to the plate. Cal Raley is

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Speaker 1: rouching down behind home plate and he reaches out to

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Speaker 1: shake Cal's hand. Why because they're both teammates in Seattle. Duh,

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Speaker 1: So what does Cal do? Does he fist pump? Does

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Speaker 1: he reciprocate? No, he does nothing. He does nothing. He

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Speaker 1: says something to Randy, he leans in. They have a

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Speaker 1: short conversation and the it back continues. Then after the game,

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Speaker 1: Randy A Rose Arena, speaking in Spanish, says about Cal Raleigh,

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Speaker 1: thank god he has nice parents.

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Speaker 2: They're well educated.

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Speaker 1: I recently hugged them during a friendly meeting at the

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Speaker 1: team hotel. Then he used a profane Cuban and Mexican

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Speaker 1: slang to insult cal Raleigh, saying the All Stars should

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Speaker 1: quote f Off and quote go to hell, says Randy

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Speaker 1: a Rose Arena, and then he stormed off down the hall.

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Speaker 1: So we saw this, and the first thing I thought

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Speaker 1: is like a lot of people while they're just playing around,

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, right, they just fun. And then

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Speaker 1: it got me thinking maybe Cal was so dialed in,

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Speaker 1: he was so intense in that moment playing for his country,

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Speaker 1: a different jersey and he was all fired up and

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Speaker 1: can two guys be enemies one day and friends the next.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely they can. So we got a couple of clips here.

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Speaker 1: I know we can respond to it. Dick the first

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Speaker 1: one I know. Cal has talked about this today. He said,

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Speaker 1: about it. But Cal Rawley did say, by the way,

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Speaker 1: that you know what, while I'm competing for the Americans,

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Speaker 1: and I'm paraphrasing here, I'll get the exact quote in

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Speaker 1: a second. I'm in the moment, had nothing to do

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Speaker 1: with anything personal with Randy. But it's America versus Mexico.

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Speaker 1: We're fighting for a WBC championship, so he basically right.

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Speaker 1: Jackson admitted that he told Randy a Rose Arena for

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Speaker 1: the time being to take a hike. We're competitors right

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Speaker 1: now in a very nice yes. Wait, caw not teammates,

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Speaker 1: ca right. I mean, well, first of all, we don't

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Speaker 3: Stepping the bleeping box.

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Speaker 1: Randy exactly, you'd get your fat, lazy ass in the box.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know what he said. I assume you're right,

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Speaker 1: Jackson that it was. You know, hey, man, can't do

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Speaker 2: Whatever? Right?

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Speaker 1: You know the thing is about it though, just real

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Speaker 1: quick before we hear these clips. If cal Rawley had

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Speaker 1: reached out and shook his hand, nobody would have beat

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Speaker 1: it an eye. If you would have fist pumped him,

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're.

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Speaker 1: Teammates, right like, nobody would have said bupkus about it?

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Speaker 1: So here now is raised President of Baseball Operations Eric

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Speaker 1: Neander on foul Territory today on the situation between Randy

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Speaker 1: and Rose Arena and cal Rawley.

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Speaker 4: If that happened and it was in your clubhouse for

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Speaker 4: the regular season, right now it's into WBC, how would

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Speaker 4: you have handled it.

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Speaker 5: I'd start by getting a full picture of what went out.

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Speaker 5: I'm watching it now. I saw this, I saw a

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Speaker 5: not quite sure. I certainly would start by understanding the

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Speaker 5: entirety of what went down. But look, they're men, their adults.

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Speaker 5: You understand the competitive situation. They're not teammates right now,

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Speaker 5: as much of an understanding for what went on, who

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Speaker 1: So Caroly did say today via FaceTime with some Seattle reporters, quote,

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Speaker 1: there's no beef with Randy.

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Speaker 2: I love him, he's my brother.

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Speaker 1: He's already talked to Randy or Rose Arena by the way,

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Speaker 1: about the situation to clarify what went down, as well

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Speaker 1: as manager Dan Wilson. That's from Ryan Divish's Twitter accounts.

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Speaker 1: So that's Kyle Rawley's take on the story. Here's Barstool's

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Speaker 1: Mostly Sports podcast. I'm telling this is a big story

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Speaker 1: across the country. Bar Stools Mostly Sports podcast with Mark

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Speaker 1: Titus and Brandon Walker. These two guys talking about the situation.

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Speaker 6: Brandy a Rose Arena not a fan of.

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Speaker 2: What Cal Rawley did.

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Speaker 4: It seems that way, and they are going to be

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Speaker 4: teammates for one hundred and sixty two games this year.

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Speaker 7: I'm not sure what cal Rawley said to him, but

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Speaker 7: the idea of him not tapping up his teammate like

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Speaker 7: this is when when the Dream Team played Tony Kukoach

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Speaker 7: remember that. I just remember when Kobe played Paalagasol in

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Speaker 7: like the idea of like, we're not boys, not tonight,

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Speaker 7: not tonight. But it feels like this is gonna lead over.

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Speaker 7: I feel like this wasn't just a tonight thing.

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Speaker 2: But Okay, the.

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Speaker 4: One thing I'll say about the American team, you watch

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Speaker 4: the the Dominican team, the Puerto Rican team, everybody else,

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Speaker 4: they seem like they're having the time of their lives. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: they're out there, everybody's dancing, everybody's Our team, which appears

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Speaker 2: I can use a.

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Speaker 4: Little bit of the fun. I could use a little

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Speaker 6: We're happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I want to make just a quick TV

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Speaker 1: show analogy ted lastom.

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Speaker 2: You know where I'm going with us.

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Speaker 6: When they're playing for their No, because they didn't play

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Speaker 2: Yes they did, did they play? They played in the

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Speaker 1: Remember the goaltender with the face masksha zaha.

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Speaker 2: No no, no, no no.

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Speaker 1: It was Danny Rojas kicked a ball into his face

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Speaker 1: and they were teammates and he did give He looked

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Speaker 2: Remember that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he comes back home he's like, hey, bro,

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Speaker 6: So here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: So this is that's what this is. I don't I.

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Speaker 6: Really I hate doing this. I hate when soccer fans

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Speaker 6: do this. I hate it. But I'm gonna go all

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Speaker 6: when I'm finished here. Okay, But this is something that's

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Speaker 6: not abnormal, like coming from like my position as a

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Speaker 6: soccer person. This is completely normal. I see this every

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Speaker 6: You have international games and you have guys on opposing teams.

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Speaker 6: Christian Roldan to a Sounders right here. Christian Roldan played

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Speaker 6: with the United States. Oh Beed Vargas played with Mexico.

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Speaker 6: They have faced each other, We've talked to them about it.

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Speaker 6: They're not friends and they're not involved in each other.

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Speaker 6: There's no pleasant I mean sure after the game there's pleasantries,

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Speaker 6: This is not abnormal. And cal Rawley if he didn't

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Speaker 6: dap him up because he's like, this is America versus Mexico.

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Speaker 6: You're on the other team.

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Speaker 2: Cool, that's what you should be doing.

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Speaker 8: That's what happens in soccer all the damn time. But

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Speaker 8: It's certainly not a big And the guy on barstool's

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Speaker 8: already wrong. You're like, WHOA, I could really see this

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Speaker 8: bleeding over into the season.

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Speaker 6: What are you talking about? Man?

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Speaker 3: Really, you're paid for those opinions.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not going.

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Speaker 8: cal Rawly does that.

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Speaker 3: Cal Rawley's kind of putting in a position where he

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Speaker 2: Yet is he in the lineup tonight? Cal? Is he

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Speaker 1: Because I know that he's not starting every game for

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Speaker 1: that and he's I'm not surprised by that because he

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Speaker 1: played last night. Look, guys, here's the deal. And first

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Speaker 1: of all, your soccer analogy most of the time, your

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Speaker 1: you're dead on, thousands of percent dead on with this, Okay,

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Speaker 1: when you are as intense and you are as committed

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Speaker 1: to Cal Raleigh and his commitment to winning and his intensity.

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Speaker 1: You saw that on display last night. This guy wants

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Speaker 1: to win badly. We talked about cutting her hands off

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Speaker 1: for a World series. He would do it, all right.

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Speaker 1: And I love it. I absolutely love it about cal Raley.

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Speaker 1: He is the undisputed leader of the Mariners. He's the

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Speaker 1: going in this town right now in my opinion. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and you saw that last night. You didn't give a

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Speaker 2: If she extended her hand to shake get at home play.

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Speaker 1: He wants to win that World Baseball Classic title badly

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Speaker 1: for his country. And I think this is just another

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Speaker 2: Will it have.

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Speaker 1: Any effect, any negative effect whatsoever?

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Speaker 8: Because you know what everybody said, then just Kobe being Kobe, right, right,

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Speaker 1: Well, here, this is what's gonna be kind of funny

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Speaker 1: They won't do it because they're sensitive and things like that.

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Speaker 6: You don't even need to say or do anything. You

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Speaker 6: He enjoys that being. This guy has no problem making

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Speaker 3: Me now than it did twenty thirty years.

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Speaker 1: Well, I just think it's another reminder of how intense

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Speaker 2: Man. And I mentioned this in the first hour.

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Speaker 1: This a guy who how many years has cal Rawley

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Speaker 1: and cal Rawley got extended. Cal Raley, guys, I'm telling you,

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Speaker 1: This is another reminder of how badass cal Rawley is,

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Speaker 8: There's no question about it. And I mean, just the

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Speaker 1: Again, I don't know if I've ever seen a franchise

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if you.

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Speaker 1: Can directly trace it Dick to what cal Rawley said

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Speaker 2: Then they pay cal Raley. Then they go out for two.

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Speaker 1: Years in a row and actually get better at the deadline,

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Speaker 1: Everything positive, I'm telling you this is a little bit

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Speaker 8: I will say they did go out and get Luis

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Speaker 1: Was a guy who was under contract they've gotten guys

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Speaker 8: I would probably jump running back ahead of right guard now,

438
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Speaker 8: and I would say running back is first, right guard

439
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Speaker 8: his second. I would say a secondary member because it

440
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Speaker 8: could be a safety slash corner, could be a corner

441
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Speaker 8: slash safety like I replacement for Kobe Bryant slash treequal

442
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Speaker 8: And don't know if you need two of them, because

443
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Speaker 8: they do really like me and my approach it, and

444
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Speaker 8: he might just slide into one of those one of

445
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Speaker 8: those spots there. And then I would say fourth would

446
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Speaker 8: be depth, that pass rusher or you know that another.

447
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,359
Speaker 8: I mean, do we like Drake Thomas as a starter.

448
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 8: I mean, that's that's the question. And they obviously like

449
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 8: Drake Thomas as a starter couple years ago. Yes, yes,

450
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Speaker 8: so there's I mean, there's your there's your four in order,

451
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Speaker 8: and I don't think any of them.

452
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Speaker 2: So give me the four again, give me the.

453
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Speaker 3: Running back, one, right guard two.

454
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Speaker 8: I'm just gonna say secondary, three, one one slot in

455
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Speaker 8: the secondary. Don't necessarily think you need two starting caliber guys.

456
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Speaker 8: You need one starting caliber guy and and one more

457
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Speaker 8: pass rusher.

458
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Speaker 1: So edge, so running back, guard, secondary, slash, corner whatever,

459
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Speaker 1: edge rusher or defensive line whatever, okay Jackson.

460
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Speaker 6: Yeah, the exact same list. Like I kind of don't

461
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Speaker 6: think what's fun. What's fun about this is like there's

462
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Speaker 6: just so few holes on this team right now. Like, okay,

463
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Speaker 6: so you need somebody to accent Sharboney, Okay, would be sure,

464
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Speaker 6: nice if you get up Greg Bradford. Yeah, having another

465
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Speaker 6: guy to replace Kobe. But like we're just we're really

466
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Speaker 6: stretching at this point. Like this isn't the days of

467
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Speaker 6: the Seahawks of five six years ago right where we're

468
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Speaker 6: just listing off the one, two, three, four five We

469
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Speaker 6: all need guys there. I mean, if we go in

470
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Speaker 6: next season with Bradford as a starter, okay, he was,

471
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Speaker 6: he was okay in the Super Bowl outside of a

472
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Speaker 6: couple of players. Sure, you know, like like sharbon Ay

473
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Speaker 6: if he's healthy, I don't mind relying on him and

474
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Speaker 6: having like a Rashad White as a running back too.

475
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Speaker 6: But yeah, we'd liked upgrade. But none of these are

476
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Speaker 6: red flags.

477
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Speaker 8: I can't think of a Seahawk team that had twenty

478
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Speaker 8: one of twenty two starting positions plus punter, kicker, in

479
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 8: return man that were filled by good to very good

480
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Speaker 8: to elite players. I don't even think the twenty thirteen

481
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Speaker 8: team had good to very good to elite at twenty

482
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Speaker 8: one of twenty two spots, right.

483
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I just think this.

484
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Speaker 1: I think running back is clearly the number one spot

485
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Speaker 1: and it's not even close, you know. I mean, look,

486
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Speaker 1: Anthony Bradford, you know, yeah, I could use an upgrade there.

487
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Speaker 1: But if they roll with him again, he's a veteran,

488
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Speaker 1: He's been around the block.

489
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Speaker 3: If Sharbonnay could play Week one, would you have the

490
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Speaker 3: same fea.

491
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I like Sharbonnay in the same role he

492
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Speaker 1: was in last year. I agree, you know, I don't

493
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Speaker 1: want to mess with that. I want to find another

494
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Speaker 1: guy that can do what Kenny Walker can do and

495
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Speaker 1: just throw both those guys out there. I don't want

496
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden go to Sharberday and say three

497
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Speaker 1: hundred carries no, because that's not what he is. I

498
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Speaker 1: want him to have the exact role that he had

499
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Speaker 1: a year ago. And I'm looking at some draft prospects

500
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 1: at corner. It's a little bit different than running back.

501
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 1: There's like ten guys in the top hundred that you

502
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 1: could grab. And I think, if you're a Seahawks fan,

503
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: like I know I've made this reference before, but when

504
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 1: the Seahawks had Bryce Fisher and Grant Wistrom and they

505
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: drafted Lawrence Jackson, not Lauren Jackson, but Lawrence Jackson from

506
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 1: USC and people were like, what.

507
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 2: Are you doing that for? You've already got Wistrom and Fisher.

508
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: Well, because eventually those guys will leave and you need

509
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: depth at edge and you need to have a rotation

510
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 1: on your defensive line. Now, Jackson didn't pan out, But

511
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about the philosophy, right, Like, who knows

512
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 1: if these guys will work. I'm not even talking about

513
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: which guy they should take or why they should take him.

514
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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously at corner, and I don't know if

515
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald has the same thing for corners that Pete

516
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: Carroll did, and that's the long thirty two inch arm

517
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: thing that we all talked about. As long as Schneider's here,

518
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 1: he may believe, like I kind of like D'Angelo Ponds,

519
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 1: the kid from Indiana, but he's short and doesn't have

520
00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 1: long arms, so he may not be on the Hawks.

521
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 2: So look for guys like that.

522
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: But that's the thing is that if there's a top notch,

523
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Speaker 1: if their number one corner is on the board at

524
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Speaker 1: thirty two and the Hawks haven't traded down, take them.

525
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

526
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 1: Pairing that guy up with Devin Witherspoon after he signs

527
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: his new contract be unbelievable to get that done. Now,

528
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 1: if the number one edge rusher on your board is

529
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Speaker 1: on the board at thirty.

530
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Speaker 2: Two, get them whatever will be does it well.

531
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Speaker 1: But I'm telling I'm saying, they're number one guy, right,

532
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: like the best player left that they still think might

533
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 1: be worthy of that pick. I mean, yeah, if they're

534
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: number one guy is a top ten pick, then whatever.

535
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: But my point is that I don't really care who's here.

536
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: Now. That's my point on the draft.

537
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: A lot of people look at the draft and say,

538
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: how can I fix a hole today? There's a reason

539
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: why guys are under contract for four or five years people,

540
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 1: because it's not just about today. So I think, if

541
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: you're the Hawks, I don't care who's here. I don't

542
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,959
Speaker 1: care who you've got play in that spot.

543
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 2: Now. Hell, if you think there's a quarterback that you're

544
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 2: in love with, do it. What the hell? Why not?

545
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 1: If there's a star at Court Jackson, if there's a

546
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Speaker 1: quarterback that's there that John Schneider thinks is going to

547
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: be a star in the NFL, you gotta take them.

548
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 2: So you gotta take him. Man.

549
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 6: That's that's my line, because I do think we are

550
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 6: in a super Bowl all the time. You dis agree,

551
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 6: it's fine now, but right now we are in a

552
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 6: super Bowl window. I think of the next what two three, four,

553
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 6: maybe it's probably two three years, And if you look

554
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 6: at that window right now, you need a player who's

555
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 6: gonna maximize that window.

556
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just don't agree with that.

557
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 6: Okay, that's fine.

558
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 2: I don't agree with that.

559
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 6: That's fine.

560
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 3: I think, well, hold on, didn't you do that last year?

561
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Speaker 8: Didn't we get like, didn't we get the quarterback last

562
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 8: year that we hoped would be the quarterback in four years.

563
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Speaker 6: And that's my thought. That's my thought right now is

564
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 6: you have the guys, so why would we do an

565
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Speaker 6: idea window.

566
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Speaker 2: Win because I don't know what John Schneider's thinking. Guys.

567
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Speaker 1: John Schneider may look at a player and again I'm

568
00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: not this is obviously a pie in the sky scenario. Okay,

569
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: I mean I'm going to the least likely situation that

570
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: there's a quarterback the Hawks love at thirty two. I'm

571
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: just saying number one, I don't think they're gonna pick

572
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: at thirty two.

573
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody does.

574
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: And if they do pick a thirty two, if their

575
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: best player available happens to be a quarterback, and their

576
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 1: best player available is by far and away, they think

577
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: the best guy at that spot and everybody else is wrong,

578
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 1: and they pass on that dude, and that guy becomes

579
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 1: a star no matter what position it is, wide receiver, quarterback,

580
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: left tackle, anything. John Schneider's gonna be kicking himself for

581
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 1: the rest of his life. And that's not how John

582
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: Schneider operates. He goes out and gets the best guy

583
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: he can find. That's what he's always done. So I

584
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: just think this is a year where all of a sudden,

585
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Speaker 1: now with Reek taking off and Kenny Walker taking off,

586
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: and Boye Mafe and Kobe Bryant taking off, you've got

587
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: a lot more flexibility on what you can do and

588
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: what you can get away with. And we're talking about

589
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: you know, like the fans reaction to what they do

590
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,479
Speaker 1: on draft Day. They could or shouldn't give a crap

591
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 1: about any of that stuff. It shouldn't matter at all.

592
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, if their best player on the

593
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: board is the guy that they think is going to

594
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: be a Hall of Fame player, but they don't necessarily

595
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: need him right now, I trust them to do it

596
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: and get.

597
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 6: Them every single position I'm with you on except for quarterback.

598
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 6: That's the only that's the only position I have an issue.

599
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: Well, I think you're missing out, dude, because Sam Donald

600
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: could blow his knee out tomorrow and never be the

601
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: same guy that he was.

602
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 3: Ye, you wouldn't start a guy that you drafted this

603
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 3: year anyway.

604
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 2: Right, He's going to be a backup. He's going to

605
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 2: be a backup.

606
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,239
Speaker 1: He's gonna sit there and learn from Sam Donald and

607
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 1: maybe he steps in and makes nothing I mean, you

608
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: guys are just thinking about now. I think the Seahawks

609
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: more often than not look at the draft as a

610
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: long term project.

611
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 2: I would agree, way long term project.

612
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 8: I agree with that, but I also said, you did

613
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 8: it last year in the third round. It's not like

614
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 8: you took a seventh round pick on a quarterback. You

615
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 8: took a third round pick on a quarter.

616
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: You think they look at Jalen Milroe as the future

617
00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: what they.

618
00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 6: Look at ja.

619
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Speaker 8: I think drafting a quarterback early in this draft, right

620
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 8: when you have three or four needs to fill where

621
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 8: you were almost a perfect team again like you were

622
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 8: last year, you gotta.

623
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Speaker 2: Fill those Let's see.

624
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: That's another example though, of why the Hawks don't agree

625
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: with that, because they took Jalen Frickin Milroe in the

626
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: third round, rowing full well, he would likely play no

627
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: role on this football team for twenty twenty six and

628
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: likely will play no role next year, by the way.

629
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Speaker 8: So you're gonna get rid of Jaylen Miller? Well, then

630
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 8: if you draft a quarterback early, I'm all keep possibly. Possibly.

631
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 8: I mean, look, the airs are the Cardinals. I'll just

632
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 8: give you an example.

633
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: The Cardinals aren't the greatest example out there because they're

634
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: not known for making the right moves. But the airs

635
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: are a Cardinals draft that Josh Rosen number ten overall,

636
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: saw him play and then saw Kyler Murray the next

637
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: year and said, you know what, man, The philosophy here

638
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: is that we think Rosen is not what we thought.

639
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: We think that Kyler Murray's going to be a star.

640
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: We're taking him. And they got rid of Josh Rosen

641
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: after one fricking year. My point is this, if you

642
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: see a stud and it's all about what you believe, right,

643
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: if these guys are paid to.

644
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: Evaluate you see Russell Wilson again.

645
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: If they believe that they've got a guy there who's

646
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: gonna be a Hall of Fame caliber player, and everybody

647
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: in the NFL is missing out. And again I'm stretching

648
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: reality here.

649
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 3: But he didn't once point. They didn't want.

650
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: If they believe that guy is there, They gave Matt

651
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: Flynn money and said, we don't care, we love Russell, Well,

652
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: we're taking them.

653
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: And I just think that's the way you got to

654
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 2: do it. Man. You can't worry about what you have

655
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:36,479
Speaker 2: on your roster.

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Speaker 1: The draft, in my opinion, the most important thing about

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Speaker 1: the draft, and if you can fill immediate holes, then awesome.

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Speaker 1: But the most important thing to me about the draft

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Speaker 1: is finding great players period, no matter where they are

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Speaker 1: or when you plan on them playing, or whether you

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Speaker 1: need them today. You have to use the draft to

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Speaker 1: find great players, and the Hawks over off, for the

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Speaker 1: most part, have done a pretty good job of that. Right,

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Speaker 1: all right, we'll get some texts next segment. John Winner

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Speaker 1: is gonna hop on a five a little bit. Danny

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Speaker 1: Sprinkle at six on ninety three three kJ RFM