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Speaker 2: They're not even playing tonight, they're playing tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: I wish the American media would take a great look

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Speaker 4: On Conress to find out how they call America.

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Speaker 2: Or anti America, because people have got to know whether

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Speaker 4: I can't trust them.

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Speaker 5: He has no Shamessler, tear down the bitch wall.

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Speaker 4: I did pudge at the Minneapolis Airport.

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Speaker 2: Senator, You're no Jack Kennedy.

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Speaker 5: Kessler know it all now to help Dan break down

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Speaker 5: all the tough questions and politics. It's our owner public drunkenness.

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Speaker 2: I feel like a supermodel, except like times ten was

437
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 2: it pri.

438
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 4: Also force Mankussler with Dan Morero on the fan.

439
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 2: All right, looks like we're three minutes in change from

440
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: the launch countdown. I've rarely seen Kessler with this much

441
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 2: of a bounce in his step.

442
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 4: I think you're living on right.

443
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 2: You're drunk on nostalgia right now, because you you are

444
00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 2: thinking back, hearkening back too many many decades ago, when

445
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 2: actually almost any rocket launch YEP, to the moon, towards

446
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 2: the moon, whatever, was a big deal in this country.

447
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 4: Not so much more recently, and yet.

448
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 2: Here we are on the brink of a what they

449
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 2: everybody's saying, a new phase when it comes to interstellar

450
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 2: Exploration mission to the Moon. Artemis to launch your thoughts.

451
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 5: Well, honestly, some of my excitement is from the ketamine.

452
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 5: But that's something completely that's a different subject we can explore. Yes,

453
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 5: Hockey will enjoy that sound.

454
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 2: Thank you.

455
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 5: So this is a remarkable achievement. I think this is

456
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 5: one of the few events in which the entire country.

457
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 4: It seems, invested, is unified.

458
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 5: You know, we have all of this stuff going on

459
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 5: all around us every day, of fire hose of bad

460
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 5: news and chaos and violence and the disagreement and disagreement,

461
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 5: and look at this, this is really a The Artemis

462
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 5: program is taking us back to the Moon, and this

463
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 5: is a remarkable journey of this particular space mission. You're right,

464
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 5: they're not going to land on the Moon, but they're

465
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 5: going to do something extremely important. They are going to

466
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 5: slingshot to the Moon. It takes about four days to

467
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,959
Speaker 5: get there. I mean it's two hundred and fifty thousand

468
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 5: miles away. They are going to circle the Moon and

469
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 5: come back. But here's the thing. They are going to

470
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Speaker 5: be the first human eyes to set to look at

471
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 5: the dark side of the Moon.

472
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 4: Thank you, Pink Floyd.

473
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 5: I love it saying as it kicks in when the

474
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 5: lion roars.

475
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 4: Look it up. Kids.

476
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 5: Here's the thing, it's sunlight when they're going to be

477
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 5: there on the dark side of the Moon, so no

478
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 5: one has ever seen it. They're going to help map it.

479
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 5: They're going to be talking about in planning colonies, possible

480
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 5: mining of moon minerals. Some of the stuff is incredibly

481
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 5: important to the United States. So this is the next

482
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 5: step in landing on the Moon, setting up a moon

483
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 5: colony similar to the Space Shuttle. I think this is

484
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 5: about as cool as it gets. And there is a

485
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 5: direct line back to nineteen sixty eight. As we're watching

486
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 5: the countdown here, and you can narrate thirty seconds. Yeah,

487
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 5: go right ahead.

488
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're you're gonna narrate it when it gets to ten,

489
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 4: probably have to. Yeah, we're getting close right now.

490
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 5: So yeah, this is very much like the Apollo mission

491
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 5: to the Moon Apollo eight in nineteen sixty eight.

492
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Speaker 4: I'm going to hold off here while we watch this.

493
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 2: We're down to at ten nine eight seven six five

494
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 2: rockets firing three two.

495
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 4: We have launch ignition.

496
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 5: There is the ignition power lift off, unbelievable.

497
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Speaker 4: Have we cleared the top? That's what I want to see.

498
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 4: We always want to know that. This is so cool.

499
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: This is shot from like down below. Let's see that's powerful, beautiful,

500
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 2: Yeah is It's a beautiful blue sky. Couple clouds, but

501
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 2: not enough to make a difference, a slight breeze.

502
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 4: Look at that, mother. That thing's going.

503
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 5: Ascending by the United States flag into.

504
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 4: Space, into space. And this is a ten day mission.

505
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 4: Did you say this is a ten day mission?

506
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 5: There are four astronauts in a space capsule, the Orion

507
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 5: capsule that is about the size of two minivans.

508
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 2: So that's a hell of a lot bigger than the

509
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 2: capsules we grew up with. Yes, exactly it, and this is.

510
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 4: Where they will conduct experiments.

511
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 5: The most important thing they are going to do here

512
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 5: listening to a New York Times reporter, their space reporter

513
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 5: describing this, look at how beautiful that is as they enter.

514
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 2: What was that shower that? Yeah, that was an interesting shot.

515
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 4: Yeah.

516
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: By the way, Randy Kate didn't hit you a ride

517
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 2: on that. She was filing reports, so she get on

518
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: there at the last minute. She's got to Yeah, think

519
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: about this. That'd be a good gig if you could

520
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: get it for any reporter.

521
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 5: The New York Times reporter as I'm listening to him today,

522
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 5: is saying the most important thing for them to do.

523
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 4: Is stay alive.

524
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 5: Yes, they are testing new space suits really for the

525
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 5: Artemis mission on the Moon. They're testing these to see

526
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 5: all the bodies. It's hooked up to all the bodily functions.

527
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 5: You're breathing your heart that it's so beautiful. That is

528
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 5: many many miles in space right now.

529
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Speaker 3: My hands are sweating just looking at these, like long

530
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 3: distance shots.

531
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Speaker 2: What's hard is these are different shots that we've had before,

532
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: so it's hard to even know how to evaluate them

533
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: right or what to say exactly how this thing is going.

534
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: And they call this the not the largest space the

535
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: largest engine, but the rocket rocket most.

536
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 5: Rocket's bigger than any of those rockets on the Apollo. Yes,

537
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 5: there's the separation right there, the separation of high rockets.

538
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 4: Now, okay, that's good. That's a good sign. And they

539
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 4: are so.

540
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 5: Far, so good with the Earth and looks like they

541
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 5: are gently coming back to Earth or not crashing into Earth.

542
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 5: So yeah, that's a really good thing. So in any event,

543
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 5: these they are testing the life support systems these astronauts

544
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 5: of these space suits, these bright orange space suits that

545
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 5: we saw.

546
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 4: What are so special about them?

547
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 5: They are modern space suits, unlike the ones with Apollo,

548
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 5: unlike the ones that you're in outer space space waters

549
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 5: off the space SHUFS Shuttle. These have one hundred and

550
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 5: forty four hours of life support. And so we'll see

551
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 5: and they want to see if they can test under

552
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 5: all these different conditions. But this is the same kind

553
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 5: of mission that we prepared for the Moon landing back

554
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 5: in nineteen sixty eight when our country was so divided,

555
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 5: when Martin Luther King was murdered and then Bobby Kennedy

556
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 5: Kenyon same summer. Yeah, when we had the Chicago Convention,

557
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 5: violence there all the war world's watching, terrible, terrible war

558
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 5: going on. We were losing. Think about it. We're upset

559
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 5: about and we should be. All the people dying right

560
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 5: now in Iran. There were four to six hundred people

561
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 5: dying every single week in Vietnam. So what I'm saying

562
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 5: is we were extremely divided back then. The astronauts circled

563
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 5: the moon and that very famous picture, that iconic shot

564
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 5: that we've all seen of the Earth from the moon rising,

565
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 5: the Earth rising.

566
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Speaker 2: How fast are we going right now? Can you there's

567
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: a bunch of numbers on the screen. Can you tell

568
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: what's our velocity right now? I can't tell, but it's

569
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: got to be got forty thousand miles an hour?

570
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 4: So thousand?

571
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: Is it fair to say, even with all of the

572
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 2: iterations of the program and all the changes and all

573
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: the adjustments, and presumably all of the improvements technologically, that

574
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: the four astronauts in that win a Bao sized capsule

575
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: have to have the same quote unquote right stuff that

576
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 2: the original Mercury astronauts did as well. It's all no

577
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: matter how much the technology changes, the individuals involved still

578
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: have to have what they call in the business the

579
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: right stuff.

580
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 5: And the reason they call it the right stuff is

581
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 5: that back in the day this was not all controlled

582
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 5: on Earth. This was controlled, particularly if something went wrong

583
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 5: in the space capsule.

584
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 4: And these are test.

585
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 5: Pilots who had to use duct tape and bubblegum to

586
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 5: fix anything that went wrong. So this is but still,

587
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 5: this is pretty amazing. Yeah, it is said, and I

588
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 5: believe it to be true because I read it on

589
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 5: the internet.

590
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 4: It is said that our.

591
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 5: Our phones, our Apple phones, our iPhones contained the same

592
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 5: computing power and more than the rocket chips and the

593
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 5: space capsules of the Apollo.

594
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 4: So yeah, this was a pretty cool thing.

595
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 5: They went around the Moon on Christmas Eve and the

596
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 5: astronauts broadcast a message back to Earth.

597
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 4: They read from the Book of Genesis, remember that.

598
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, And people were so taken by that and so

599
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 5: moved by that because we're looking at the Earth from

600
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 5: the moon and reading from Genesis and God created Earth

601
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 5: and saw that it was good. So it was pretty cool,

602
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 5: really cool, and that unified us, as I hope something

603
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 5: like this unifies us.

604
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 4: Now.

605
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 3: I just got a picture from a college from that

606
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 3: lives in Tampa and you could see the chemtrail.

607
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 2: Clear as day.

608
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, from Tampa.

609
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: From Tampa, you could see it.

610
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 4: In Oh, oh my god. That's impressive. Yeah, that's pretty cool.

611
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 4: The famous line.

612
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: One small step for man, one giant giant leap for mankind.

613
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 4: That was when we landed on the moon, right, that is.

614
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 2: I think we've talked about this before, Neil Armstrong. Wasn't

615
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: the line blown? I think the line was supposed to

616
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: be one small step for a man, one giant leap

617
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: for mankind.

618
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 4: Now some people say he actually says, ah, It just

619
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Speaker 4: depends on the audio controversy.

620
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, there was perhaps a glitch in the transmission

621
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 5: of the broadcast from Stepping onto the Moon. But think

622
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 5: about this nineteen sixty eight. I mean, we don't know

623
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 5: what's going on, you know. No, this is a tim

624
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 5: can on a big rocket that's going to the moon.

625
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 2: Let's go back further. I mean I can remember the

626
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 2: Mercury you know, Siri, the Mercury program, which predated the Apollo,

627
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 2: when we were just trying to get out out of

628
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 2: the atmosphere, right, trying to keep it catch up with

629
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: the Russians a little bit. What I do remember was

630
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 2: the degree to which everybody did pay attention to it.

631
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: And I can even remember a time where a neighbor

632
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 2: was supposed to.

633
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 4: Drive his kid and me to grade school.

634
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 2: I want to say Webster Elementary, Daniel, Webster Elementary, Gary

635
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: and Deanna, and she's saying, kids, we.

636
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 4: Might be late.

637
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 2: I gotta I want to see the rocket leave the ground.

638
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: It was that old deal of we got it, we're

639
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: all in this, and and I got to be sure

640
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 2: that the damn thing gets going. And once I see

641
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: it gets going, then we could leave. We were all

642
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 2: invested in it in a way. And then for many years,

643
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: as you know, we kind of because it went so well,

644
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: we tended to lose interest. It wasn't that big a

645
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 2: deal until we had a couple of tragedies, unfortunately, and

646
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: that's what got people paying more attention to it.

647
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: Well.

648
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 5: I do remember as a kid when the teachers would

649
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 5: actually stop classroom learning, roll in a television so you

650
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 5: could watch the launch. What was that that is at?

651
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 2: Okay, that was pretty good if that was the real thing,

652
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: But it's not.

653
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, So we we didn't know back in those days

654
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 5: whether the human in the capsule would survive. We didn't

655
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 5: know if the gravity would kill them and crush them.

656
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 5: We did not know if our feeble human uh oxygen

657
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 5: tanks would keep them alive or if they would fail.

658
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Speaker 5: So when these astronauts went into space, particularly John Glenn

659
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Speaker 5: who who orbited the Earth and returned alive, was the

660
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Speaker 5: big headline on that. So it's a it's a much

661
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 5: different thing now.

662
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Speaker 4: You're right.

663
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 5: Americans kind of lost interest after the moon landing, and

664
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Speaker 5: we were there a couple of times, and NASA was

665
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 5: defunded over the years.

666
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Speaker 4: Why are we spending money for this?

667
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

668
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, and to our credit and to the administration's credit

669
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Speaker 5: now and before this, we have kept NASA alive for

670
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Speaker 5: things like this.

671
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Speaker 2: Two five two guy, where's two five two area code?

672
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Speaker 2: We checked that out, blakemore, there's two five to two guy,

673
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: writes Dan. I'm standing in my backyard and can see

674
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Speaker 2: the spaceship going over.

675
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Speaker 4: That's so cool. Is he playing with us or is

676
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 4: that true? Well? I want of you know, if you're

677
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 4: where's two.

678
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: Five to two northeastern North Carolina? Is where.

679
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Speaker 4: As possible?

680
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 2: Yeah?

681
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 4: You that is possible. That would be so that's fantastic.

682
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Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you.

683
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Speaker 2: This is from Dan Winnesota, Springsteen Artemis launch was clean

684
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: Cassie on ketamine Wolves in five, so they had to

685
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Speaker 2: do some some changing to pronunciation. But I thought that

686
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: was too bad, very well played. So is it fair

687
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 2: to say so far all indications are good.

688
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 4: It's good.

689
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: We have no signs of any difficulties ago at this point.

690
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: Right now, now somebody's taking exception with your math.

691
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 4: Let me see if I can find well, you know, good,

692
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Speaker 4: I'm fine, I'm accept whatever it is.

693
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Speaker 2: Kessler just said they're probably going twenty thousand miles per hour.

694
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 2: The moon is two hundred forty thousand miles away, so

695
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: they'll be there in twelve hours.

696
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 4: He said, four days pst.

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Speaker 2: Nominee that according to Brad from Minneapolis, he's nominating you

698
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Speaker 2: for me.

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Speaker 5: Let me let me think about this. Once they escaped

700
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 5: the Earth's atmosphere, right, how fast did they go?

701
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Speaker 4: I have no question? Yeah, that's true.

702
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 5: I thought you were asking me what is the speed

703
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Speaker 5: of them at that rocketing out of.

704
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Speaker 4: That was my question. Yeah, And I don't know. I

705
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 4: don't know what it is.

706
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Speaker 5: I was trying to read some of the scribbling on

707
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 5: these computer graphics here, but who knows.

708
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that could very well be.

709
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Speaker 2: So the president is that I mean he's speaking to

710
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Speaker 2: the nation tonight. Is it eight o'clock Central or nine

711
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 2: o'clock Central, that'll be eight o'clock eighth Central about the

712
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: war in Iran.

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Speaker 4: I'm assuming this might come up a little bit. Maybe not,

714
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Speaker 4: I don't know.

715
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Speaker 2: So we're getting more more indication that he's saying two

716
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 2: to three weeks we're going to be done. And you

717
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: want the straight of horror moves open Europe, open it up?

718
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 4: Is that our problem? So what do we think?

719
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Speaker 2: What's the early line on what the President's tack is

720
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Speaker 2: going to be tonight?

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Speaker 5: It's all very unsettling. The President will address the nation

722
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Speaker 5: tonight on Iran. So the big question is will he

723
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Speaker 5: just declare victory and leave or will he deploy troops

724
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Speaker 5: on the ground for whatever reason? And in my view,

725
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 5: either one of these is probably not that good. Either

726
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 5: one of these is bad. We've gone into a country,

727
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 5: a war of our own choice, without consulting our allies

728
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 5: or the American people, and many, many, hundreds and thousands

729
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 5: of people are dead in Iran, and including many people

730
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Speaker 5: about twelve service members here. So this is not a

731
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Speaker 5: good This is not a good outcome if the president

732
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Speaker 5: who has been going back, I have to take my

733
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 5: eyes off that so I can actually talk about Iran.

734
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Speaker 5: I'm watching this.

735
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very very distressing how they're bringing out the

736
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Speaker 2: models that their little rocket models are bringing out to Hi.

737
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Speaker 4: Wouldn't you love to have one of those?

738
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Speaker 2: I guess I don't know. I mean, I think that

739
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 2: that looks kind of too retro for me.

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking, but well.

741
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Speaker 5: Here's the thing that the president is going to speak tonight,

742
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 5: and I'm very anxious to see what he actually says.

743
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 5: He has had many, many, many different reasons for going

744
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 5: to war. He has been angry with the Allies for

745
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 5: not helping him once the war started. He is now

746
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 5: saying that I don't need a deal with Iran. After

747
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 5: four weeks of saying they're begging for a deal, we'll

748
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 5: make a deal, we're dealing with good people, now he

749
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 5: says I don't need a deal. He has been very

750
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Speaker 5: angry because the Allies are not helping him keep open

751
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 5: the strait of horror moves.

752
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 4: Now he says, I'll just walk away. I don't care.

753
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 4: It's your problem. Now go get your oil yourself, and

754
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 4: I might leave NATO.

755
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Speaker 5: And now that's a big thing. Tonight we are hearing

756
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Speaker 5: that he is going to criticize NATO heavily and pull

757
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 5: the United States out of it. That's the big question.

758
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Speaker 5: So I think all of this is unsettling to me

759
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 5: and to America. I think I think that possibly this

760
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 5: is unsafe. I feel like there is an unstable nature

761
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 5: to everything about this war. It's been a erratic I

762
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 5: think the president's messages have been untethered, even though I

763
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 5: think this can also be true. Good we got rid.

764
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Speaker 2: Of the game, right, you can applaud that, but we

765
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: haven't changed thee even though we say, well, the problem

766
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: is among those who believe it might actually be even

767
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 2: more entrenched in that same approach, even more hardline than

768
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Speaker 2: what came before. Because for a while, what do we

769
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 2: keep hearing there's going to be a code, a moment

770
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Speaker 2: where it's going to be all right, okay, citizenry of Iran,

771
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: it's okay for you to come out. Well, that obviously

772
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 2: is false. That there's not going to be any such

773
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: day takenment take your government back. So that's the concern

774
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 2: is at the end, there's no plotting on my part

775
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 2: for this regime in any way, shape or form, you're

776
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: back to massacre. Are you in a better place now

777
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 2: than you were before? Maybe in terms of nuclear you are,

778
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: But beyond that, they don't know how far we've gone,

779
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 2: and we don't even know that anything.

780
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Speaker 5: So that there is no regime change. The leaders in

781
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 5: fact have changed, but they might be more hard to

782
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 5: radical previous ones. The nuclear the nuclear issue, the President

783
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 5: said that we're going to get all the nuclear material out,

784
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 5: and I think they're going to walk away from it.

785
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 5: Was there an imminent threat? I think there's growing evidence

786
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 5: that there was no women in threat.

787
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 4: So what have we accomplished?

788
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 5: Or as the rolling stones set at Altamont, why are

789
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 5: we fighting?

790
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 4: And what for?

791
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 2: Let's get to some what a time we have, waste

792
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: some time to do it. Let's get to some local

793
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 2: stuff that was on your list as well. I don't

794
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: know exactly what to make of this. So the outgoing

795
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: former mayor of Saint Paul, Melvin Carter, there's discussion now

796
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: about a decision he made to pay out a bunch

797
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 2: of big bonuses right before he left office. What's this

798
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 2: all about? And who's mad about it?

799
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 4: Everybody? Well, somebody, I.

800
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 5: Think everybody should be concerned about this for sure, maybe

801
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 5: they deserve the bonuses. Well, you know, you know I

802
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 5: shouldn't argue that they don't. I mean, this is a hey,

803
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 5: you did such a great job, here's some money for you.

804
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 5: What has happened is that the former mayor has right

805
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 5: before he left office, literally days before he left office,

806
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 5: he awarded his.

807
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 4: His staff.

808
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 5: Thanks for all the good work you did, bonuses, and

809
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 5: some of them are thousands and thousands of dollars. Their

810
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 5: walkaway pay includes unused sick time, vacation time, and paid

811
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 5: leaf time. Here's the catch with the vacation time. The

812
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 5: Mayor Carter's administration ended on January second, right, but he

813
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 5: gave them all. They're all entitled to a year's full

814
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 5: of vacation time.

815
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Speaker 4: For twenty twenty six. That is career. How is that possible?

816
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 5: That's the rule. They were in office on January sixth.

817
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 5: You get your full vacation on January first, So, you know,

818
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 5: all of this just doesn't pass the smell test. Additionally,

819
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 5: he's using money out of the new mayor's budget for

820
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 5: this year, So what is she supposed to do? May

821
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 5: Or her has got this, So I think this is unusual.

822
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 5: I think that you could have valid criticism that that

823
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 5: this this should absolutely not happen. This happened without transparency.

824
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 5: You might even say in the dark of night that

825
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 5: all of these bonuses are offered and given and these

826
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 5: are the highest paid people in the administration.

827
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Speaker 2: So so so far, since these stories have surfaced, I

828
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: assume people are trying to reach, you know, to talk

829
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: to the former mayor and say, okay, what's your response.

830
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 4: To all this? He has he given any an? Yeah.

831
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 5: The Star Tribune has reported was the one who broke

832
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 5: the story. And the Star Tribune reports that this is

833
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 5: not abnormal. This is a normal thing that they do.

834
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 5: They my staff work very hard and this is a

835
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 5: way of rewarding them. This has been a very tough

836
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 5: couple of administrations. And you know, everybody's got that, including

837
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 5: everybody in Minnesota, where we went from from COVID to

838
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 5: George Floyd, to murders to carjackings, to all sorts of

839
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 5: things that happened. So we've all been through this. But

840
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 5: I don't know, I didn't get a bonus. I don't

841
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 5: know how it is here at iHeart, but I lost

842
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 5: my sick time every year at the end of the year,

843
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 5: and I lost my vacation time, cannot accrue it, and

844
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 5: so it doesn't roll over into the next year. So

845
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 5: I'm not going to say I was resentful of people

846
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 5: who could do that, but it it was a housekeeping

847
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 5: nightmare because everybody, everybody would take their vacations in December.

848
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 2: You know, Well, I'm confused all paid twenty twenty six

849
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: vacation days even though they left office jan two.

850
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 4: You're saying as if they're they're in that they're getting

851
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 4: vacation days that were.

852
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: From me for an entire year that they're not working.

853
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 2: That is correct, Yeah, it doesn't seem.

854
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 5: That seems because in many in many companies, I think,

855
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 5: including mine, you know, we had to accrue them previously,

856
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 5: and that's probably the reason.

857
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: Why they do it.

858
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 5: I know, insurance, I had to wait ninety days before

859
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 5: I got insurance before I was vested in that because

860
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 5: you know, you have to just you have to add

861
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 5: up the days and.

862
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 2: Accrue the time.

863
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 5: So this is Yeah, so that is exactly what the

864
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 5: Start Tribune is reporting, and and I thought it was

865
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 5: a pretty good story that they figured this out.

866
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll be curious to see what kind of you know,

867
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 4: you can't do it? What are you gonna do? Yeah?

868
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 2: The sad thing is I'm looking at the number you have.

869
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: Total is more than turn and fifty thousand dollars here,

870
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 2: that's that almost seems you know. Again, it's sad because

871
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: that's not a small amount of money, but it feels like,

872
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 2: you know, kind of tip money compared to any of

873
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: our you know, feeding our future and autisms. A project

874
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 2: or turn of fifty thousand, that's that's nothing.

875
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 5: Well, this the mayor's office hasn't has a bunch of money. Well,

876
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 5: how do I say this? I'm not going to say

877
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 5: this is corruption, right, I'm just going to say this

878
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 5: is it's worth question wondering.

879
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 4: Let's let's ask us pass the smell test. Yeah, I

880
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 4: think that's over.

881
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 5: It's two hundred and seventy seven thousand dollars and uh,

882
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 5: there's ninety six thousand dollars of that went out in

883
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 5: performances bonuses for just a handful of his top aids.

884
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 5: So think about that one hundred thousand dollars in bonuses. Man,

885
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 5: I'd love to have had that. Of course I didn't

886
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 5: deserve them, But were.

887
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: They all that I mean, do they all deserve them?

888
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 2: That'd be one of my other questions. Well, if he

889
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 2: says you do you do, that's the mayor.

890
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 5: That's you know, you helped me a lot, and here's

891
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 5: a here's a side of my appreciation.

892
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's do not like, let's get a pause, meo.

893
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: Like, We've got another local story to get to and

894
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 2: a couple of others and some text to respond to

895
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Speaker 2: as well. Kessler is in the house back after a

896
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Speaker 2: brief top of the six o'clock hour pawn.

897
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898
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899
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901
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 2: Let's get to We'll get to another local story in

902
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 2: just a second, and we'll continue to monitor what's going

903
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 2: on in the Artemis two launch, which is that's awful,

904
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 2: very cool on its way and it goes it's gonna

905
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 2: go around the Earth twice and then it's a slingshot

906
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 2: shot baby, right yeah.

907
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, So in the break, I looked it up bus

908
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 5: so it is seventeen thousand miles as it exits Parle atmosphere,

909
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 5: seventy p per hour and then twenty four to five,

910
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 5: twenty four thousand miles an hour to.

911
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 4: The moon to the moon. Once it gets into.

912
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 5: Into zero gravity out there, this is that's pretty fast, amazing.

913
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 4: What kind of turbulence on the way up? Is the

914
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 4: turbulence bad? Yeah? Terrible? I mean the G force.

915
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: That's why they got to test everybody to make sure

916
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 2: they can handle any of that nonsense.

917
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 5: G force is like a tesla, the nice tesla at

918
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 5: zero to sixty.

919
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: Really, I wrote, I got a buddy.

920
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 4: I couldn't man, I couldn't believe it.

921
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 5: You know, you get on an old country road and

922
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 5: you just hit the accelerator and zero to eighty boom.

923
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 5: So the G force of this, you know your face

924
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 5: it's worth coming back in, including the extreme heat.

925
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 4: But yeah, let me ask you a question. This was

926
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 4: not on your list. I mentioned it in the show.

927
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 2: No, but it's one I think you'll appreciate and might

928
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: evensk some thoughts on. I want to talk about the

929
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 2: issue of classified as erasure, and in this case I

930
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,959
Speaker 2: have not talked in much detail about it on the show.

931
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 2: The New York Times was either a week or two ago,

932
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 2: had a frightening story, great reporting in it, on allegations

933
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 2: that it had confirmed in a number of cases involving

934
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 2: the labor giant Caesar Shavez and the allegations they ended

935
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: up quoting at least two, maybe more of victims. And

936
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: the issue in this case these were girls as well,

937
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: not necessarily always women from an age standpoint, who got

938
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 2: caught up in his vortex were afraid to say anything

939
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 2: about the things that they claim he was doing to them.

940
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 4: For all the obvious reasons.

941
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 2: Caesar Chavez was a giant, you know, walking literally with RFK,

942
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 2: with so many others and galvanizing an entire labor movement

943
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 2: in California. Right, So the allegations are serious in depth.

944
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 2: The reporting is very, very significant. The question on the

945
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 2: table for me is the erasure question. Like within in

946
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 2: some locations, within minutes of this story, dropping were whitewashing

947
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 2: stairs that have his name a leading up to whatever

948
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 2: monument or salute whatever ways that we were saluting this individual.

949
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 2: And what I'm asking you is how fast are we

950
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 2: obligated to go? What is it? Is this enough to

951
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 2: say we have to eliminate him from our memory? Because

952
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 2: what strikes me is I feel like we move so

953
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 2: fast that it's like we're embarrassed that we ever saluted him.

954
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 2: And my comeback to that would be, well, we saluted

955
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,240
Speaker 2: him on the basis of what we thought we knew

956
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 2: about his historic place in the movement. It wasn't like, ah,

957
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 2: you know what, there's all kinds of bad things about him,

958
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 2: We're still going to salute him.

959
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 4: It's not like, so, why is it good? Maybe you

960
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 4: think it's good. I don't even know what the answer is.

961
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: I grapple with this that within minutes of not any

962
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 2: court cases, because that's probably impractical at this point anyway, but.

963
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 4: A story appearing.

964
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 2: We're doing everything we can to pretend that this individual

965
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 2: didn't exist.

966
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 4: Is that the right approach? Is it healthy?

967
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 2: Is it working at mock speed? A little bit too fast?

968
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 2: I don't know what the answer is, but I'm asking.

969
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 4: It's a really good question.

970
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 5: Because this investigation by the New York Times and another

971
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 5: reason why we need independent news organizations. This investigation took

972
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 5: ten years. They never let go of the thread. They

973
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 5: kept pulling on the thread trying to find out allegations

974
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 5: that they first got ten years ago, and the allegations

975
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 5: are extremely serious. The allegations of Caesar Chavez is that

976
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 5: he not only raped people around him forcibly assaulted them,

977
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 5: but many of them were young girls thirteen fourteen years

978
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 5: old and kept them in his orbit much the same

979
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 5: way as Jeffrey Epstein did. So I understand what you're

980
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 5: saying that the people who are bringing the allegations now,

981
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 5: who are coming public, have evidence. And if you haven't

982
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 5: read it, people, it's worth a read the New York

983
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 5: Times investigation into Caesar Shavis. It's pretty buttoned up, but

984
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:21,439
Speaker 5: you're right. There is no court case that says, yes,

985
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 5: he was guilty and therefore he should be sentenced.

986
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 4: And this is what he's doing.

987
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 5: But this is so far beyond, so far beyond his

988
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 5: image that people are moving very quickly. I understand how

989
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 5: uncomfortable that might make someone, but we in this state

990
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 5: are doing the same thing.

991
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 4: Bring that up here. We have Caesar Savage. We have

992
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 4: a day. We have a day, and now it is

993
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 4: not the day it is now.

994
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 5: I believe that Governor Walls change it to farm workers Day,

995
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 5: the people he represented in the unions. He was a

996
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 5: great union leader organizing this. We have Cinco de Mayo

997
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 5: where Caesar Shav is, the area down on the west

998
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 5: side of Saint Paul.

999
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 4: All of this is happening.

1000
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 5: They're moving so quickly because the evidence appears to be incontrovertible.

1001
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 4: So why aren't we owning this awful?

1002
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 5: It's terrible, it's absolutely terrible, and the people who are

1003
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 5: making the allegations are still alive. So how does this

1004
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 5: differ from Jeffrey Epstein.

1005
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know how you do it.

1006
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if it matters whether it's the slave owning,

1007
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 2: founding fathers.

1008
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 5: I mean, so these are issues that we've never really

1009
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 5: had to think about and grapple with in this country.

1010
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 5: I'd say it's better to air on the side that

1011
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 5: we're going with Caesar Shavis than not.

1012
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 4: But here's great, you're more moving quick.

1013
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 2: Part of what I'm saying is, in my view, whether

1014
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 2: you erase the monument today or or in three weeks,

1015
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 2: if there are actually people who say it's been three

1016
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 2: weeks and you haven't a race that, I'm saying, what

1017
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 2: does that necessary? What's that difference accomplish? We're just getting

1018
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 2: this information. None of it is good. It's all absolutely terrible.

1019
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 2: But I'll say again, the saluting that was done with

1020
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 2: him had nothing to do with this, because there wasn't

1021
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 2: knowledge of what he was doing. Now part of the

1022
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 2: story indicates there may have been more knowledge at the

1023
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 2: time of what he was doing, But that gets back

1024
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 2: into cover up. That gets back into well, the cause

1025
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 2: is too important, we cannot expose him to whatever. That's

1026
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 2: another whole series of stories that I'd like to see

1027
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 2: written at some point, if they haven't already.

1028
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 4: But I just I don't know.

1029
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 2: If the notion is if you wait three weeks, you're

1030
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 2: enabling this monster. And I'm saying that happened a long

1031
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 2: time ago, that's a distinction that I don't think is

1032
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 2: anything more than performative to me.

1033
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 5: And so I would ask, then, rhetorically, what is the

1034
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 5: proper time?

1035
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 4: Is it now? Is it three weeks from now? Is

1036
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 4: it six months from now?

1037
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 5: We have completely different moral values, stances today and responses

1038
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 5: to them than we did in the nineteen sixties, in

1039
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 5: the nineteen seventies, and things are just much much different.

1040
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 5: So immediately you distance yourself until you know more.

1041
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 2: But I get but I think we know more.

1042
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 5: I can't get my hands around what you're asking, and

1043
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 5: that is is it fair to do this without any

1044
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 5: adjudication of this of any kind?

1045
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 4: And I don't know the answer.

1046
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 2: And then again, ed education is probably not even possible,

1047
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 2: it won't be.

1048
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 5: But I'd rather do this under these circumstances than ignore it.

1049
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 2: All Right, real quick, tell me about We've got a

1050
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 2: DWI related story involving a state rep correct.

1051
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 5: Well, I certainly don't have enough time to talk about that.

1052
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 5: Holy Hannah. That is that's that's a pretty that's a

1053
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 5: pretty interesting one.

1054
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 4: We have a state representative, Elliott.

1055
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 5: Engen, who is running for state auditor, and he was

1056
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 5: He's a Republican who is running for state auditor, and

1057
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 5: he was arrested in White Bear Lake, I believe, at

1058
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 5: two o'clock in the morning, pulled over blew a one

1059
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 5: point one four to two, had a busted headlight, expired plates,

1060
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 5: and was speeding.

1061
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 4: So when you drink, don't do that.

1062
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 5: What makes this a little bit different, what makes this

1063
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 5: a doozy of a political story, is that he was

1064
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 5: captured in photos day drinking at a local bar around

1065
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 5: the capitol, watching the Twins game. You know something that

1066
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 5: I do a lot day drink and watch the Twins

1067
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 5: and then went back to the capital, participated in a

1068
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 5: session and voted and.

1069
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 4: Then went off and drank some more.

1070
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 5: What makes it even more interesting is that he was

1071
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 5: accompanied in the car by Representative Walter Hudson, who had

1072
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 5: a handgun stuffed in his waistband. So he had a

1073
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 5: permit to carry, no doubt about it. Had a permit

1074
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 5: to carry. He was not He did not submit it,

1075
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 5: nor was he asked to submit to blood alcohol or

1076
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 5: blow a blow you know, breathalyzer. So it is against

1077
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 5: the law to be drinking and have above point four.

1078
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 5: So you know, there's so much here. There was a

1079
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,439
Speaker 5: bottle of liquor in the in the child car seat

1080
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 5: in the back, and there was a mysterious third person

1081
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 5: in the car, and we don't know who that was.

1082
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 2: Was he still do we have any resolution on whether

1083
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 2: he continued he intends to still to continue to run

1084
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 2: for audible.

1085
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 5: Well, you know, he, to his credit, I mean, he

1086
00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 5: apologized and Representative Hudson, I thought, gave a tremendous apology,

1087
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 5: if that's the right word for it. Gave a heartfelt apology.

1088
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 5: And I thought, very directly said this is my fault.

1089
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 5: I messed up. I've always thought about what I would do.

1090
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 5: You know, sometimes people do dumb things, and this is

1091
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 5: one of them, and he asked for forgiveness. Engen also

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00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 5: gave what I thought was a pretty good apology. The

1093
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 5: twist here is that when he first ran for state auditor,

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00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 5: in his launch video of the campaign, he includes the

1095
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 5: Democratic candidate running for auditor with his mugshot from a

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00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 5: DW I so we got two auditor guys.

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00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 4: So I don't know, man, I don't even know what

1098
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 4: to think anymore.

1099
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 5: You apologize, get the help you need, for sure, and

1100
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 5: then carry on. So we got to give people grace,

1101
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 5: but sometimes it's harder than others.

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00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 2: Are you okay with the judge allowing Tiger Woods to

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00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 2: get treatment outside of the United State of America? Would

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01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 2: someone not as famous as Tiger Woods be afforded that

1105
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 2: same opportunity.

1106
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 5: It's a really interesting question. I don't know why he

1107
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 5: can't go to Hazelden here in Minnesota.

1108
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 4: I mean, this is just in the world.

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01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,919
Speaker 2: Well, the comeback, of course is publicity.

1110
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 4: It needs to get away. But I don't know if

1111
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 4: you get how does tiger get away? I mean again, yeah, sure,

1112
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 4: you know why not.

1113
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 5: I don't depose that if you're going to go to

1114
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 5: a place and get help, good for you, Good for

1115
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 5: you to uh to be self aware and figure it

1116
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 5: out and then come on back and and begin a recovery.

1117
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 4: Absolutely on that point.

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01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 2: We're going to let you go and hopefully chat next

1119
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 2: week is the plan, and then you're gonna go. My

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01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 2: sense of you tonight is you're going to be going

1121
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 2: home and watching a lot.

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01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 4: I will of this. I've been I watch the videos

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01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 4: from last night, watch all of that.

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01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 2: Well, disappoint you didn't go, Well, you know I had.

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01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 5: I took the kids to the Milania movie is where

1126
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 5: I went. That's a that's a choice. So it's a

1127
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 5: great thing about America. You know, you can make your choice,

1128
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 5: my choice, and then you can come back in me

1129
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 5: like that. So Milania Movie was awesome, So that that's

1130
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 5: where I went instead of Springsteen.

1131
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 4: All right, Well you've seen him before though, right.

1132
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 5: I have tremendous fomo that you have a show that

1133
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 5: I missed this particular, this one in particular, which may

1134
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 5: have been the greatest Springsteen show of all time. Yeah,

1135
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 5: I deeply regret, and I have many regrets in my life.

1136
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 5: This is the biggest, that's all.

1137
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 2: Well, maybe one of them for recency biases. I enjoy

1138
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 2: this show tonight please, Yes, it's.

1139
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 4: It's gonna be great. I cannot wait. What a winter?

1140
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 4: I think this is the worst winter we've ever had. Okay,

1141
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 4: what I don't like it? Here? Why did you move?

1142
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 2: We like it?

1143
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 4: We do like it. We like you don't that's your problem,

1144
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 4: so I know. So what what can I say? Thanks?

1145
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 4: Kesl Well come back, wrap things up neck. It's the

1146
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 4: Bumper to Bumper Show rap.

1147
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 2: It's brought to about American pressure. Very fast paced program today,

1148
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 2: including two outstanding in studio guests. Kessler just left us

1149
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 2: and at about three pint fifteen, the redoubtable Aaron Gleeman

1150
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 2: was in studio. And if you roll your eyes and say,

1151
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 2: what do I want to listen to a segment or

1152
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 2: segments about the Twins? Well, we actually talked about lots

1153
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 2: more than just the Twins. We did cover I think

1154
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 2: some salient Twins subjects because we've not had Aaron on

1155
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 2: in a while, and we eventually even talked to a

1156
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 2: little National Basketball Association as well. But plenty on ball

1157
01:02:54,880 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 2: strike appeal, very esoteric. We got very deep into some

1158
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 2: baseball pitching philosophy on the return of the splitter, the

1159
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 2: split fingered fastball, which is back in vogue after being

1160
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 2: out of vogue, and then before that it was in vogue.

1161
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 2: Everything you know that cliche about everything comes back eventually.

1162
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 2: That includes the split the split fingered fastball as a

1163
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 2: powerful pitch in many pitchers arsenal, maybe not so much

1164
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 2: for the Minnesota Twins. So that was three fifteen. We

1165
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 2: went all the way close to four point thirty, so

1166
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 2: an extended visit with Gleaman on a number of subjects.

1167
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 4: Tomorrow is going to be a good day too.

1168
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 2: I think in that we've got Andy Lueger is an

1169
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 2: in studio guest, and he's telling me he's bearing gifts

1170
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 2: and we might for it's a bit of a switch

1171
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 2: chalk talk. A lot of the toy department stuff with

1172
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 2: him as well, in addition to some more A section issues.

1173
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 2: I think he's at four o'clock tomorrow. Seaffert is tomorrow

1174
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 2: as well. From the I think the owner's meetings are

1175
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 2: still going. I'm not sure, but he's been there with

1176
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 2: them or for them.

1177
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 4: And then we.

1178
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 2: Expect to visit from the the Arena formerly known as

1179
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 2: the X with Russo Radio while back in action tomorrow night.

1180
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 2: So we're hoping to get Russo probably I'm guessing he

1181
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,919
Speaker 2: will be at five o'clock, so a very good guest

1182
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 2: lineup tomorrow. Guards he out again tomorrow. Then I think

1183
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 2: he's back with me on Friday as well. There's some bitterness.

1184
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 3: You were going to say, I was gonna say, I

1185
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 3: think Guards he's back Monday. Oh he's off Friday to

1186
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 3: that's my understanding. Yes, well then that's a change. I

1187
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 3: think he's changed it from what he had told me

1188
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 3: a day ago. So okay, Well it's fast moving. Yeah.

1189
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 2: In any case, there's some people bitter that we're not

1190
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 2: talking about Gopher basket men's basketball tonight. They are playing

1191
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 2: in whatever that tournament is.

1192
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 4: Is it called the Crown in Vegas? Thinks.

1193
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 2: So I'm not begrudging the programs the decision to participate.

1194
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 2: I get why they might want to participate. I just

1195
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 2: refuse to believe that, if I'm being honest with my audience,

1196
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 2: that it has any real significance beyond potentially a little

1197
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 2: bit of cash. There's you know, we're back to if

1198
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 2: they play at the tournament, you're obligated to make a

1199
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 2: big deal of it.

1200
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 4: Not on this show.

1201
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 2: They can play it. They can have their own reasons

1202
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 2: for playing it. But come on, man, there's just not

1203
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 2: that much there there at all, So knock yourselves out.

1204
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 2: If you're interested in it and want to listen to

1205
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 2: it and want to watch it, that's all good. I'm

1206
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 2: not here to complain, but I think we've got to

1207
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 2: be honest about the consolation to the Consolation Tournament of

1208
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 2: college basketball at this point, I am a little surprised

1209
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 2: that Kessler apparently wasn't going to watch tonight. It sounds

1210
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 2: like he's going to be back watching the Mission to

1211
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 2: the Moon. The Artemis to launch as well, and don't

1212
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 2: text me anymore with well, this particular, their ship will

1213
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 2: not be landing in the moon.

1214
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 4: We know that.

1215
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 2: The larger issue is it's called Mission to the Moon

1216
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 2: because that's where they're going, and then it's going to

1217
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 2: start a series of launches that will presumably end if

1218
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 2: it goes well, with.

1219
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 4: Us back on the moon as as well. Phantom de

1220
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 4: Man in the air tonight.

1221
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 3: Phantom Demand Wild Weekly. It's my understanding the decko for

1222
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 3: game will be on the fan later tonight, so at

1223
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 3: like nine, Yeah, well that makes sense you might as well.

1224
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 3: Yeah I wouldn't why we wouldn't, but yes, Fod wild

1225
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 3: weekly go all that makes sense to me, and then

1226
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 3: we'll be back at headquarters here tomorrow discussing the sleet

1227
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 3: that's supposed to fall overnight. I don't know what it's

1228
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 3: gonna end up being, rain, snow, sleet, sludge.

1229
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 4: We'll see.

1230
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 2: I have absolutely no idea, but our plan is to

1231
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 2: get in here tomorrow and Blakemore pledges he will as well.

1232
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 4: We'll talk to you at three o'clock