1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Boston's Bulldozer never sleeps The Kooner Report weekend edition on 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: the Voice of Boston WRKO. 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 2: Wednesday, nine o'clock. You know what that means, doctor Grace, 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 2: putting liberals in their place, Grace Vuoto, my wonderful wife, 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: my better half, Grace. I've got to ask you. Right 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: out of the gate, Trump now says Greenland is in play. 7 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: He now wants to make a move to acquire Greenland. 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, apparently gave a closed 9 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 2: door briefing to lawmakers yesterday in which he said that 10 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: the Trump's intention is to buy Greenland, to acquire it 11 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: by putting a cash offer on the table. Listen to 12 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 2: President Trump on Air Force one and I want to 13 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: get your reaction. This was Trump just a couple days 14 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: ago after his militarily successful raid on Maduro, saying we 15 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: need Greenland and eventually we're gonna get Greenland. Roll cut 16 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: four b Mike. 17 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: I will say this about Greenland. We need Greenland from 18 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 3: a national security situation. It's so strategic. Right now, Greenland 19 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: is covered with Russian and Chinese ships. 20 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 4: All over the place. 21 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 3: We need Greenland from the standpoint of national security and 22 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: Denmark is not gonna be able to do it. I 23 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: can tell you that. You know what Denmark did recently 24 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 3: to push up security in Greenland. They added one more 25 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 3: dogs lin. It's true they thought that was a great move. 26 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 2: What would the justification be for a plane? 27 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't want to talk about Greenland down, I 28 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: just say this. We need Greenland from the standpoint of 29 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 3: national security, and the European Union needs us. 30 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: To have it, while the European Union is saying that 31 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: I don't want us to have it and that if 32 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: we try to acquire it it will be the end 33 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: of NATO, and that it will rupture all diplomatic relations 34 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 2: between Europe and the United States. So my question to you, Grace, 35 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 2: should Trump seize Greenland? Should it be a part of 36 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: the United States? And is it worth now a diplomatic 37 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: showdown with the EU? 38 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 4: Absolutely not. And we don't need to buy something that 39 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 4: we can just have full free. And that's really the 40 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 4: big story here. The Danes have been willing to cooperate 41 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 4: with US. We already have a military base there. If 42 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 4: America just uses its influence, its diplomatic influence, and just 43 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 4: increases more and more of its presence there, We don't 44 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 4: have to spend a penny buying something that Americans buy 45 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 4: and large don't want. And when we talk about the 46 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 4: concern that we have regarding Russia and China, there's many 47 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 4: other ways to power Russia and China then focusing on Greenland. 48 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 4: So my advice to the President would be, I understand 49 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 4: you want to protect America's national interests, but we can 50 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 4: do that without antagonizing the Europeans. We can do it 51 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 4: by cooperating with them, and we can do it without 52 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 4: spending the money that it would take to buy Greenland. Moreover, 53 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 4: I don't want us to compromise our moral authority. We 54 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 4: shouldn't take anything that doesn't belong to us. We should 55 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 4: do everything based on the will of the people. So 56 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 4: everything depends on what the Greenlanders want or don't want. 57 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 4: So I don't want to see us becoming an imperialistic power. 58 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this, grace. We purchased Alaska 59 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: in eighteen sixty seven. We got it, frankly for a song. 60 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: It was a great deal, and it turned out to 61 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: be one of the greatest action and moves in the 62 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: history of the United States. If it worked for Alaska, 63 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: why can't it work for Greenland. Let the Greenlanders hold 64 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: a referendum, they will decide their future, and we can 65 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: put an offer on the table to acquire them. And 66 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 2: you know, instead of us having to go to Denmark 67 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 2: and make a great agreements with Denmark, we can own Greenland, 68 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: have full legal control, own the resources, own the rare 69 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 2: earth minerals, project power. It's ours the way Alaska is ours. 70 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: What's wrong with that? You're not happy with Alaska? You 71 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: want to give it back to the Russians. 72 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 4: No, absolutely not, Jeff. But the point right now is, 73 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 4: as far as we know from all the polls, the 74 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 4: Greenlanders don't want to join the United States. So until 75 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 4: we have the consent of the people, this is a 76 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 4: non starter. And furthermore, I would say we need to 77 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 4: hold a referendum here in the United States too. Do 78 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 4: we want to invest money to buy this territory? Why 79 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 4: when we have so many problems here at home that 80 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 4: we have not addressed. And Jeff, the larger point is 81 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 4: this I'm hearing from so many people just sick and 82 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 4: tired of President Trump focusing on foreign affairs. The question 83 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 4: that has to be asked now is is he morphining 84 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 4: into a globalist? Is he being Is his administration being 85 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 4: hijacked by people like Lindsay Graham? You know who I 86 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 4: see smiling from year to year every time I turn 87 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 4: on the television. Now it's Lindsay Graham, and that's not 88 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 4: good news for MAGA. I want our president to focus 89 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 4: on what is going on within this country. And when 90 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 4: you think about it, we gave him the House, the Senate, 91 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 4: the Supreme Court, we gave him the presidency. How many 92 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 4: pieces of legislation I'm talking legislation do we have two? 93 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 4: We've got two pieces of legislation, the Big Beautiful Bill 94 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 4: and the Lake and Riley Act. That's it for everything 95 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 4: we delivered. I want this president to focus within this border, 96 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 4: within our borders. That is what we voted for. 97 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: So you're basically just not a put too fine a 98 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: point on it, but you're so you're siding with Denmark. 99 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 4: I am siding with the American people, Jeff. We are 100 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 4: not an imperialistic nation. We don't want to go down 101 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 4: that road. We shouldn't be bullying other countries to get 102 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 4: their resources, and we should be working in harmony with 103 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 4: the Europeans. Look at how much this president has started. 104 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 4: We started a trade war. We've already started a trade 105 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 4: war with much of the whole world, and this is ongoing. 106 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 4: I mean, just recently, the president has had to roll 107 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 4: back so many of these tariffs. He's cutting back tariffs 108 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 4: now on beef, coffee, tropical fruits, spices. Now, he's got 109 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 4: to roll back the tariffs on pharmaceuticals, semiconductors. Now, he's 110 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 4: got to roll back the tariffs on upholstered furniture, kitchen cabinets, vanities. 111 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 4: We've got a tariff policy right now that has yet 112 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 4: to be fully determined and flushed out, and until that is, 113 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 4: this is not good for the American economy. So I 114 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 4: just think this president is doing way too much too fast. 115 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 4: We need to see domestic victory after domestic victory before 116 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 4: we even talk about anything beyond these borders. You know, 117 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 4: It's funny. I called my sister the other day and 118 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 4: she said, Grace, I turn on the news every night 119 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 4: to hear how the economy is doing, and I'm learning 120 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 4: about another country. She says, I've learned more about the 121 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 4: countries in the world during this administration than I have 122 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,239 Speaker 4: in my entire life. And if we talk about wanting 123 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 4: to curtail Russia and China. The way to do it 124 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 4: is to uphold also our moral authority. By what right 125 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 4: are we going to be able to tell China you're 126 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 4: not going to make inroads into Taiwan? By what right 127 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 4: are we going to be able to stand firmly with 128 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 4: Russia as it continues to make inroads into Ukraine? If 129 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 4: we ourselves are now starting to espouse a doctrine as 130 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 4: Stephen Miller did just yesterday that Mike mikes right, This 131 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 4: is not who we are as Americans. I'm all for 132 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 4: a strong national defense, but right now we are going 133 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 4: far beyond that. And remember what Biden did during his 134 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 4: first term. He made a big mistake. He went too 135 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 4: far to the left. And my fear now is with 136 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 4: this kind of rhetoric, these kinds of policies, this president 137 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 4: is starting to go too far to. 138 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 2: The right, too far to the right. You're kidding me? 139 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: Meaning meaning so not whoa so not what he's a fascist? 140 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 4: Now no I'm not saying he's a fascist, but I. 141 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: Mean so, I mean, you sound honestly, you you you 142 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: you have you morphed into a democrat? You you you 143 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: you sound like you sound like CNN the way you're 144 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: blasting Trump. Let me ask you this. I asked you twice. 145 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 2: I want to ask you a third time. If the 146 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 2: people of Greenland choose to be part of the United 147 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: States and we make a cash offer to buy Greenland, 148 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 2: how is this Vladimir Putin? How is this invading Ukraine? 149 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: How is this China invading Taiwan? Now you're right. Polls 150 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 2: right now in Greenland say they don't want to join us, 151 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: But that's because they haven't heard from an offer from US. 152 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: Wait till we put a nice offer on the table. 153 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 2: Once we put a nice offer on the table and 154 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 2: show them everything we're going to do for Greenland, I 155 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 2: guarantee you you're going to get eighty to ninety percent support. 156 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: So I go back to my earlier point about Alaska. 157 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 2: What we're doing in Greenland is exactly the same as 158 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: we did in Alaska. Do you want to give Alaska 159 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: back to the Russians? Because according to you, that was imperialism. 160 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 4: Jeff Listen, do not refer to me as an exponent 161 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:56,479 Speaker 4: of left wing ideas. I am a firm America first patriot, 162 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 4: And what I'm seeing now is the president is going 163 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 4: beyond what he discussed during the campaign again and again 164 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 4: and again, and we need him to deliver on domestic 165 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 4: legislation that sticks. Just yesterday, he said that there's a 166 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 4: real danger that if the Democrats win the midterms, he 167 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 4: will be impeached, And in fact he is correct. And 168 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 4: what happens if the Democrats come to power, they will 169 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 4: just roll back all the executive orders that Trump put 170 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 4: into place. Eventually, they'll just roll it all back. So 171 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 4: what we need for the America First Agenda to be 172 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 4: successful is for much of it to be codified into law. 173 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 4: And I want to see this president every day talking 174 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 4: to Senators and congressmen about how we advance our domestic priorities. 175 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 4: And when we talk about Greenland, unless we also have 176 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 4: a referendum in this country, does this country want to 177 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 4: purchase it. It's a non starter for me because I 178 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 4: believe that the American people should. 179 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 2: Way we're up against it. I need a yes or 180 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: a no. Are you saying you don't want Greenland? Just 181 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 2: give me a yes, sir and no? Hello, Mike, Okay, 182 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 2: I assume that's a no. 183 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: Jeff doesn't get a day off. This request came from 184 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: his wife. The Kooner Report weekend edition on the Boys 185 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: of Boston WRKO