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Speaker 1: host of the wildly popular Jungle Roar podcast on YouTube.
Speaker 1: That would be Mike Petralia. How are you.
Speaker 2: I'm doing well, Lanced Rocky. Been kind of an eventful
Speaker 2: week at pay for Stadium with regard to a certain
Speaker 2: quarterback matas speculation out there about what was said, what
Speaker 2: he meant to say, and I'm sure we're going to
Speaker 2: get into that, but it's it's never a dull moment
Speaker 2: when you're on the Bengals feet, that is for sure.
Speaker 1: No doubt. A perfect segue to the obvious first question.
Speaker 1: You were in the room yesterday in the moment you
Speaker 1: ask a great follow up question to Joe and just
Speaker 1: kind of as you've had time to process and think
Speaker 1: about it over the last twenty four hours. What did
Speaker 1: you make of Joe Burrow's reflections on life and career yesterday.
Speaker 2: Well, it's always dangerous business in our industry lands to
Speaker 2: read body language and then draw a conclusion based on
Speaker 2: that body language. But certainly there was something on Joe's mind.
Speaker 2: And my question was right to the point, was it
Speaker 2: football related? Was it personal? And he said all of
Speaker 2: the above. Well to me, if it was just purely personal,
Speaker 2: I think he would have led on to that. I
Speaker 2: don't think he was playing forty chess in terms of
Speaker 2: trying to disguise something in his personal life by saying
Speaker 2: it was both football and personal. I think he was
Speaker 2: legitimately he had something on his mind that were troubling.
Speaker 2: I think is a fair word. He was very much
Speaker 2: not himself. He was very distracted when he entered that
Speaker 2: room yesterday, and it became apparent, you know, he kind
Speaker 2: of gaged short, very truncated answers to the questions that
Speaker 2: were being asked, and then eventually I just got to
Speaker 2: the point where I was wondering, Okay, is this football related?
Speaker 2: Is it personal? And when he said that, I think
Speaker 2: there was a point a madness, a method to his madness,
Speaker 2: I should say. And I don't think Joe ever answers
Speaker 2: anything by accident. I always think there's a purpose to
Speaker 2: his answers. And I think he's been very bothered by
Speaker 2: this season from a professional level, certainly with the team
Speaker 2: being four and nine, him doing everything in his power
Speaker 2: to get back and play, and you know, they win
Speaker 2: their first game back with him at the Helm. Maybe
Speaker 2: he should have played against the Patriot, It's maybe not.
Speaker 2: And then they blow the game last week against Buffalo,
Speaker 2: and you know, barring a miracle, Burrow is going to
Speaker 2: miss the playoffs for a third straight year. But he
Speaker 2: also brought up the fact that he's been through so much,
Speaker 2: more so than other quarterbacks in the NFL, and he's
Speaker 2: been through so much and he still wants to play.
Speaker 2: And that's something that Jamar Chase pointed out today in
Speaker 2: his gathering with the media, And you know, Jamarrow was
Speaker 2: giving it to us saying, you guys are always trying
Speaker 2: to create some type of narrative, always trying to stir
Speaker 2: the pot, and we came back at Jamar saying, no,
Speaker 2: we just want to know if you have any perspective
Speaker 2: that could clarify the matter, and he told us today.
Speaker 2: All I can tell you is Joe Burrows still loves football.
Speaker 2: He still loves preparing. He loves the whole act of
Speaker 2: coming in to the building and getting ready to play
Speaker 2: the game this coming Sunday. So that was the perspective
Speaker 2: from Jamar Chase today, and I think it was good perspective.
Speaker 3: In the end.
Speaker 2: I don't think Joe Burrow is trying to shoot himself
Speaker 2: out of town. I would never go that far. I
Speaker 2: think he was just having a rough day and there
Speaker 2: was a lot on his mind.
Speaker 3: So let's dive into that further. You know, Joe is
Speaker 3: I think, very good with his power of persuasion, right
Speaker 3: when he uses the microphone to kind of get things
Speaker 3: that he wants. So did you see it more as hey,
Speaker 3: this is a guy that's really kind of down on
Speaker 3: his luck and and everything. Or was he using this,
Speaker 3: as you know, kind of as a message to the
Speaker 3: front office like, hey, man, like you we got to
Speaker 3: do something to build this franchise back here or else
Speaker 3: kind of deal?
Speaker 2: I would say the latter. Rocky, He certainly did it
Speaker 2: last year with Tea and Jamar more so with t
Speaker 2: because I think the Jamar stuff was the FATA complay
Speaker 2: that had to be done. But I think when he
Speaker 2: brought Tea into the mix and said, we really need
Speaker 2: both of these guys back at the offic is going
Speaker 2: to be or what I think it can be and
Speaker 2: what I think we all know it can be, so
Speaker 2: he's done it before. I do think there's some credibility
Speaker 2: to what you're suggesting, Rocky, that he may have been
Speaker 2: laying a very subtle message, a very subtle groundwork in
Speaker 2: terms of I'm not happy. I think you can read
Speaker 2: it in my body language. We have got to get
Speaker 2: our act together, cleaning it up a little bit there.
Speaker 2: Got to get our act together and make sure that
Speaker 2: this doesn't happen next year. I would love to ask,
Speaker 2: and he's never going He's going to say. If I
Speaker 2: asked the question, what kind of changes do you want
Speaker 2: to see happen, He's going to say, my job is
Speaker 2: to play football. I lead the football decisions to the
Speaker 2: football people. That's what he said last year, and I
Speaker 2: don't think there's any reason he would change that messaging publicly,
Speaker 2: but behind closed doors, I'm sure he is. You know,
Speaker 2: either it has or will let Katie Troy Mike and
Speaker 2: certainly Duke all know where what he feels about the
Speaker 2: current situation.
Speaker 1: Treig's also believe it was you that asked him about
Speaker 1: keeping his finger on the pulse of the energy in
Speaker 1: the locker room now at four and nine, do you
Speaker 1: sense any wavering this week now at four and nine,
Speaker 1: with the decks so stacked against this team.
Speaker 2: I don't, And that's a great question.
Speaker 3: Lance.
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes again with the body language and the
Speaker 2: atmosphere when you read it in the locker room and
Speaker 2: the players are listening to music and relaxing, and you know,
Speaker 2: people aren't really quiet and somber. You could take that.
Speaker 2: If you're from the outside, you could take that as well.
Speaker 2: These guys don't take their job seriously. They're not upset
Speaker 2: like the fans are upset. But then you take a
Speaker 2: step back and you realize, and Rocky, I'm sure you
Speaker 2: can speak to this. It's their job, and you can't
Speaker 2: be serious twenty four hours a day. You can't be
Speaker 2: upset twenty four hours a day. You waste too much
Speaker 2: and you expend too much energy being upset. So you
Speaker 2: do your job to the best of your ability. In
Speaker 2: the morning, you go out, you have a good practice,
Speaker 2: good walk through, whatever, and then you come back in
Speaker 2: the locker room and unwind for half an hour. There's
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with that. But what Joe Burrow told me
Speaker 2: yesterday was the fact that he likes the energy. He
Speaker 2: likes the way everybody is working hard to get better,
Speaker 2: and I think that's significant. I think the fact that
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow made a point of saying that the energy
Speaker 2: in the locker room is in a good place is
Speaker 2: indicative of what he feels about, at least the mental
Speaker 2: approach to the players there at the talent level, and
Speaker 2: perhaps the positions they are being put in during a game.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's a different matter and subject altogether.
Speaker 3: Try I'm not sure if t has been officially ruled
Speaker 3: out or not, but he's been in a concussion protocol.
Speaker 3: What's and now you know, no Jermaine Burton. Not that
Speaker 3: that's a big deal when it comes to that, but
Speaker 3: any word on how his role is going to be filled,
Speaker 3: what other players may be more in the mix this week.
Speaker 2: So he was again limited today, Rocky, and that means
Speaker 2: he's pretty much in the same spot he was last week.
Speaker 2: If he can get if he can clear protocol by
Speaker 2: the time you know, Tomorrow ends, and he goes through
Speaker 2: the Friday practice at full participation, he could be cleared
Speaker 2: in theory to go on Sunday. And I think there's
Speaker 2: a misperception that the team has a lot to do
Speaker 2: with this. I don't think they do. It's more a
Speaker 2: medical decision. And if the player feels ready to go
Speaker 2: and and he has been cleared medically to go, meaning
Speaker 2: he is non symptomatic, then it's up to the player
Speaker 2: to play, and if he wants to play, he'll play.
Speaker 2: And you know, some people may think that's reckless for
Speaker 2: the team to let him go out and play, but again,
Speaker 2: if the player feels like he is asymptomatic and feels
Speaker 2: fine to play, then he's going to play.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 2: I am sympathetic to those who believe that this guy's
Speaker 2: come off one concussion and symptoms of a second, and
Speaker 2: there is a fine life. There is some you know,
Speaker 2: medical innuendo there in discernment to be taken into consideration
Speaker 2: the difference between the two. But he had one concussion
Speaker 2: and he had symptoms of a second, and if you know,
Speaker 2: the team is cautious, maybe they hold him out. But again,
Speaker 2: I think the final decision is up to t Higgins.
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Speaker 2: tomorrow morning regarding what Jamar Chase said today and taking
Speaker 2: twenty four hours to kind of digest, like we said
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Speaker 1: Love it, Thank you, Trags. We'll talk next week
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