WEBVTT - 12-11-25 Roundtable Show with Mike Petraglia

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<v Speaker 1>Six seven hundred, Put you out w Can Cincinnati, Texa

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<v Speaker 1>Let's turn to our feature guest every week at this time,

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<v Speaker 1>he's all over the Bengals for cl nscinceiwithy dot Com,

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<v Speaker 1>host of the wildly popular Jungle Roar podcast on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be Mike Petralia. How are you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing well, Lanced Rocky. Been kind of an eventful

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<v Speaker 2>week at pay for Stadium with regard to a certain

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback matas speculation out there about what was said, what

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<v Speaker 2>he meant to say, and I'm sure we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get into that, but it's it's never a dull moment

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<v Speaker 2>when you're on the Bengals feet, that is for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>No doubt. A perfect segue to the obvious first question.

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<v Speaker 1>You were in the room yesterday in the moment you

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<v Speaker 1>ask a great follow up question to Joe and just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of as you've had time to process and think

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<v Speaker 1>about it over the last twenty four hours. What did

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<v Speaker 1>you make of Joe Burrow's reflections on life and career yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's always dangerous business in our industry lands to

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<v Speaker 2>read body language and then draw a conclusion based on

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<v Speaker 2>that body language. But certainly there was something on Joe's mind.

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<v Speaker 2>And my question was right to the point, was it

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<v Speaker 2>football related? Was it personal? And he said all of

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<v Speaker 2>the above. Well to me, if it was just purely personal,

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<v Speaker 2>I think he would have led on to that. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think he was playing forty chess in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>trying to disguise something in his personal life by saying

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<v Speaker 2>it was both football and personal. I think he was

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<v Speaker 2>legitimately he had something on his mind that were troubling.

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<v Speaker 2>I think is a fair word. He was very much

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<v Speaker 2>not himself. He was very distracted when he entered that

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<v Speaker 2>room yesterday, and it became apparent, you know, he kind

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<v Speaker 2>of gaged short, very truncated answers to the questions that

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<v Speaker 2>were being asked, and then eventually I just got to

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<v Speaker 2>the point where I was wondering, Okay, is this football related?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it personal? And when he said that, I think

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<v Speaker 2>there was a point a madness, a method to his madness,

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<v Speaker 2>I should say. And I don't think Joe ever answers

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<v Speaker 2>anything by accident. I always think there's a purpose to

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<v Speaker 2>his answers. And I think he's been very bothered by

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<v Speaker 2>this season from a professional level, certainly with the team

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<v Speaker 2>being four and nine, him doing everything in his power

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<v Speaker 2>to get back and play, and you know, they win

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<v Speaker 2>their first game back with him at the Helm. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he should have played against the Patriot, It's maybe not.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they blow the game last week against Buffalo,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, barring a miracle, Burrow is going to

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<v Speaker 2>miss the playoffs for a third straight year. But he

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<v Speaker 2>also brought up the fact that he's been through so much,

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<v Speaker 2>more so than other quarterbacks in the NFL, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>been through so much and he still wants to play.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's something that Jamar Chase pointed out today in

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<v Speaker 2>his gathering with the media, And you know, Jamarrow was

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<v Speaker 2>giving it to us saying, you guys are always trying

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<v Speaker 2>to create some type of narrative, always trying to stir

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<v Speaker 2>the pot, and we came back at Jamar saying, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we just want to know if you have any perspective

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<v Speaker 2>that could clarify the matter, and he told us today.

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<v Speaker 2>All I can tell you is Joe Burrows still loves football.

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<v Speaker 2>He still loves preparing. He loves the whole act of

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<v Speaker 2>coming in to the building and getting ready to play

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<v Speaker 2>the game this coming Sunday. So that was the perspective

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<v Speaker 2>from Jamar Chase today, and I think it was good perspective.

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<v Speaker 3>In the end.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think Joe Burrow is trying to shoot himself

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<v Speaker 2>out of town. I would never go that far. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he was just having a rough day and there

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<v Speaker 2>was a lot on his mind.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's dive into that further. You know, Joe is

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<v Speaker 3>I think, very good with his power of persuasion, right

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<v Speaker 3>when he uses the microphone to kind of get things

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<v Speaker 3>that he wants. So did you see it more as hey,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a guy that's really kind of down on

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<v Speaker 3>his luck and and everything. Or was he using this,

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<v Speaker 3>as you know, kind of as a message to the

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<v Speaker 3>front office like, hey, man, like you we got to

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<v Speaker 3>do something to build this franchise back here or else

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<v Speaker 3>kind of deal?

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<v Speaker 2>I would say the latter. Rocky, He certainly did it

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<v Speaker 2>last year with Tea and Jamar more so with t

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<v Speaker 2>because I think the Jamar stuff was the FATA complay

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<v Speaker 2>that had to be done. But I think when he

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<v Speaker 2>brought Tea into the mix and said, we really need

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<v Speaker 2>both of these guys back at the offic is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be or what I think it can be and

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<v Speaker 2>what I think we all know it can be, so

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<v Speaker 2>he's done it before. I do think there's some credibility

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<v Speaker 2>to what you're suggesting, Rocky, that he may have been

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<v Speaker 2>laying a very subtle message, a very subtle groundwork in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of I'm not happy. I think you can read

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<v Speaker 2>it in my body language. We have got to get

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<v Speaker 2>our act together, cleaning it up a little bit there.

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<v Speaker 2>Got to get our act together and make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>this doesn't happen next year. I would love to ask,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's never going He's going to say. If I

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<v Speaker 2>asked the question, what kind of changes do you want

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<v Speaker 2>to see happen, He's going to say, my job is

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<v Speaker 2>to play football. I lead the football decisions to the

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<v Speaker 2>football people. That's what he said last year, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think there's any reason he would change that messaging publicly,

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<v Speaker 2>but behind closed doors, I'm sure he is. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>either it has or will let Katie Troy Mike and

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<v Speaker 2>certainly Duke all know where what he feels about the

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<v Speaker 2>current situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Treig's also believe it was you that asked him about

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<v Speaker 1>keeping his finger on the pulse of the energy in

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<v Speaker 1>the locker room now at four and nine, do you

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<v Speaker 1>sense any wavering this week now at four and nine,

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<v Speaker 1>with the decks so stacked against this team.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't, And that's a great question.

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<v Speaker 3>Lance.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, sometimes again with the body language and the

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<v Speaker 2>atmosphere when you read it in the locker room and

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<v Speaker 2>the players are listening to music and relaxing, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people aren't really quiet and somber. You could take that.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're from the outside, you could take that as well.

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<v Speaker 2>These guys don't take their job seriously. They're not upset

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<v Speaker 2>like the fans are upset. But then you take a

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<v Speaker 2>step back and you realize, and Rocky, I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 2>can speak to this. It's their job, and you can't

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<v Speaker 2>be serious twenty four hours a day. You can't be

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<v Speaker 2>upset twenty four hours a day. You waste too much

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<v Speaker 2>and you expend too much energy being upset. So you

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<v Speaker 2>do your job to the best of your ability. In

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<v Speaker 2>the morning, you go out, you have a good practice,

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<v Speaker 2>good walk through, whatever, and then you come back in

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<v Speaker 2>the locker room and unwind for half an hour. There's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing wrong with that. But what Joe Burrow told me

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday was the fact that he likes the energy. He

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<v Speaker 2>likes the way everybody is working hard to get better,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that's significant. I think the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow made a point of saying that the energy

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<v Speaker 2>in the locker room is in a good place is

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<v Speaker 2>indicative of what he feels about, at least the mental

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<v Speaker 2>approach to the players there at the talent level, and

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps the positions they are being put in during a game.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's a different matter and subject altogether.

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<v Speaker 3>Try I'm not sure if t has been officially ruled

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<v Speaker 3>out or not, but he's been in a concussion protocol.

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<v Speaker 3>What's and now you know, no Jermaine Burton. Not that

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<v Speaker 3>that's a big deal when it comes to that, but

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<v Speaker 3>any word on how his role is going to be filled,

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<v Speaker 3>what other players may be more in the mix this week.

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<v Speaker 2>So he was again limited today, Rocky, and that means

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<v Speaker 2>he's pretty much in the same spot he was last week.

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<v Speaker 2>If he can get if he can clear protocol by

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<v Speaker 2>the time you know, Tomorrow ends, and he goes through

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<v Speaker 2>the Friday practice at full participation, he could be cleared

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<v Speaker 2>in theory to go on Sunday. And I think there's

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<v Speaker 2>a misperception that the team has a lot to do

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<v Speaker 2>with this. I don't think they do. It's more a

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<v Speaker 2>medical decision. And if the player feels ready to go

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<v Speaker 2>and and he has been cleared medically to go, meaning

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<v Speaker 2>he is non symptomatic, then it's up to the player

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<v Speaker 2>to play, and if he wants to play, he'll play.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, some people may think that's reckless for

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<v Speaker 2>the team to let him go out and play, but again,

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<v Speaker 2>if the player feels like he is asymptomatic and feels

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<v Speaker 2>fine to play, then he's going to play.

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<v Speaker 3>I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I am sympathetic to those who believe that this guy's

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<v Speaker 2>come off one concussion and symptoms of a second, and

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<v Speaker 2>there is a fine life. There is some you know,

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<v Speaker 2>medical innuendo there in discernment to be taken into consideration

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<v Speaker 2>the difference between the two. But he had one concussion

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<v Speaker 2>and he had symptoms of a second, and if you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the team is cautious, maybe they hold him out. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the final decision is up to t Higgins.

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<v Speaker 1>Trags, you were all over all of this for more

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<v Speaker 1>tell listeners how they could read, watch and follow.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, telling us symphony with a Y dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to have a column up for tonight's flash

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow morning regarding what Jamar Chase said today and taking

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four hours to kind of digest, like we said

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<v Speaker 2>at the top of the conversation about what Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 2>said on Wednesday. Dot column will be up on Stealing

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<v Speaker 2>us since with a Y dot com. We'll also have

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<v Speaker 2>a preview up for this weekend's Ravens Bengals game. You

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<v Speaker 2>can follow all of my content on the act, including

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<v Speaker 2>locker room interviews at trags t rgs and of course

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<v Speaker 2>the Jungle War Bengals podcast page that is at YouTube

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<v Speaker 2>dot com slash Jungle War Pod.

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<v Speaker 1>Love it, Thank you, Trags. We'll talk next week

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<v Speaker 2>All right, gentlemen, take care you Trags all over it

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<v Speaker 2>on the Bengals Beat.