1 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: The following takes place between six pm and seven pm. 2 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: You want answers. 3 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 3: I think I'm entitled. 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 4: You one answer the truth. 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: You can't handle the truth. 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 5: Truth, truth. 7 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 6: All right, here we go six oh nine, seven hundred 8 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 6: WL w ay, Welcome in. It's the ke Chevrolet Where 9 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 6: it's the Arnel Carriers Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. 10 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 6: We are glad to have you here. There is plenty 11 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 6: of ground to cover. It's not like we are lacking 12 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 6: news to heights. What do you say we get to it? 13 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: What a day. 14 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 6: The Bengals acquired quarterback Joe Flacco and a twenty twenty 15 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 6: sixth round pick from the Cleveland Browns for the bengals 16 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 6: fift round pick next season. The forty year old and 17 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 6: eighteen year player was originally a first round pick of 18 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 6: Baltimore back in two thousand and eight. Willie Anderson blocked 19 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 6: for him in two thousand and eight. Flacco's made one 20 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 6: hundred and ninety five regular season starts and started sixteen 21 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 6: postseason games, including winning a Super Bowl with the Ravens. 22 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 6: Bengals head coach Zach Taylor saying today in a statement 23 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 6: released by the team, quote Joe as an experienced quarterback 24 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 6: with a history of winning. He's a leader with a 25 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 6: skill set that will fit our personnel well. He's a 26 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 6: gifted passer with a strong arm. We are excited to 27 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 6: have him on our team. Flacco joins his third AFC 28 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 6: North team. He started in Week three for the Browns 29 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 6: against the Packers. This Sunday, He's expected to start for 30 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 6: the Bengals against the Packers. Diana Russini of The Athletic 31 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 6: reports the Bengals did not inquire about Jamis Winston or 32 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 6: Russell Wilson. Also today, the Bengals released quarterback Brett Rippon, 33 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 6: who had been the backup to Jake Browning. Earlier in 34 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 6: the day, the Bengals signed defensive tackle Howard Crossed the 35 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 6: third to a practice to their practice squad. The Notre 36 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 6: Dame rookie was a college free agent signe in May. 37 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 6: It played in one game this season and was waived 38 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 6: on October the third. They released quarterback Matt White from 39 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 6: the practice squad earlier today, as well other NFL news, 40 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 6: the league has fined Cowboys owner Jerry Jones two hundred 41 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 6: and fifty thousand dollars for flipping off fans at Met 42 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 6: Life in the closing minutes of the Cowboys win over 43 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 6: the Jets. Jones is appealing the fine, saying it was 44 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 6: misinterpreted that it was meant to be a thumbs up. 45 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 6: All right, Bearcats right a four game winning streak into 46 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 6: Saturday's game versus UCF. It's a noon kickoff from Knippert 47 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 6: Talk uc football coming up after US had eight. It 48 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 6: is the Scott Saderfield Show. Colorado football coach Dion Sanders 49 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 6: under going a procedure today to that is related to 50 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 6: blood clots, with the hope he'll be able to return 51 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 6: to practice tomorrow and be on the sidelines for their 52 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 6: game this weekend. Baseball playoffs rain delay, Mariners and Tigers 53 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 6: tonight at eight oh eight. Blue Jays and Yankees Hockey 54 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 6: Cyclones training camp started today at Queen City Sportsplex. The 55 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 6: regular season is a week from Saturday night. 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We are 73 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 6: officially in all Flacco mode. My reaction to the news 74 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 6: followed by your reaction to the news. Let's start here. 75 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 6: I think by the time Zach talked yesterday, there was 76 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 6: a clear sense of. 77 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: Writing on the wall, change in the air. Something was coming. 78 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 6: It was no longer the public unwavering support declaration of 79 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 6: Jake Browning. 80 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 2: It was we'll see. 81 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 6: And today we saw the Bengals deal in the division 82 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 6: to get their quarterback who will start on Sunday. Let's 83 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 6: backtrack a little bit to what Zach said yesterday about 84 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 6: the quarterback situation. 85 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 7: Do you see Jake starting on Sunday? 86 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 8: We'll see where it goes. You know, it's I think 87 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 8: I have all personnel decisions. We got to evaluate it. 88 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 8: Jake's been very accountable for how the game went for him. 89 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 8: I've got to be accountable for how the game went 90 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 8: for me as well, and so we will continue to 91 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 8: progress here through the days. 92 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 7: When would you want that to be finalized? Going for 93 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 7: a game? Weight, when do you got when do you 94 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 7: need to have a guy? 95 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,679 Speaker 8: These are things that we talked about every single Monday Tuesday. 96 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 8: So we'll evaluate a lot of positions. 97 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 7: Were there any considerations about play call of duties? Is 98 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 7: that s something that you're going to retain. I'm still 99 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 7: going to retain that move for Was that even a 100 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 7: conversation that this one? How much do you think about that? 101 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: And all? 102 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 8: I've kind of always gotten into that. You know, I 103 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 8: rely on our guys on offense as well. There's a 104 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 8: ton of input there, and those guys do an outstanding 105 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 8: job adjusting as the game goes, giving me the information 106 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 8: I need. I rely on them as much as I 107 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 8: think any play horror in the league replies on anybody else, 108 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 8: So I feel very comfortable. It's a fair question. We 109 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 8: score three points in three games in the first half. 110 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 8: I totally understand that. But right now that's just going 111 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 8: to remain. 112 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 6: So Zach Taylor yesterday, let's talk about today. I'll give 113 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 6: you my thoughts on what has transpired, the pluses, the minuses, 114 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 6: and what it all means. Then we'll open up the lines. 115 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 6: I think we're gonna roll with this for a while tonight. 116 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 6: Buckle up, let's go. It's RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented 117 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 6: by Kelsey Chevalet seven hundred WLW. 118 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 9: Browning drops back to throw, steps into a throw up 119 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 9: the same intercept it third pick of the day, and 120 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 9: Zaloney running it back step arms Jamar Chase Jamar gets 121 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 9: him out of bounds inside the thirty yard line. 122 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 6: Six seven hundred WLWRNL Carrier Sports Talk, presented by Kelsey 123 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 6: chevala amliance but cavlister. I will admit up front, I 124 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 6: was feeling pretty good about things about uh oh long 125 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 6: about one oh five this afternoon, got up this morning, 126 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 6: had my coffee, started working on the show, constructed what 127 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 6: I thought was a solid two hour show set up 128 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 6: with two different topics, a Bengals topic in the first hour, 129 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 6: transitioning into a Reds kind of season and review topic 130 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 6: in the second hour. I had built up talking points 131 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 6: for the first hour of on the Verge, one day 132 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 6: away from Zach Taylor's news conference and the Bengals getting 133 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 6: onto the practice field. I thought it seemed fairly obvious. 134 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 6: The topic was going to be what do you do 135 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 6: if you're the Bengals? Do you roll with Jake Browning? 136 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 6: Do you turn to a practice squad quarterback? Do you 137 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 6: make a trade? What do you do at this stage 138 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 6: of the season? 139 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: And it was going to be great. 140 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 6: I had a whole bunch of points on all sides, 141 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 6: and then at one ten, one ten, it all changed. 142 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 6: The tweet from Ian Rappaport and Tom Pellasero from NFL 143 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 6: Network the Bengals were trading for Joe Flacco. 144 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 10: Look. 145 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 6: I sat up straight in my chair and I looked 146 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 6: at my computer and I thought, wait a minute, what, 147 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 6: And then I refreshed, and then I clicked on the bio. 148 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 6: I clicked on the tweet to make sure hand up, 149 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 6: to make sure it was real. I said, well, an, Wait, 150 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 6: this is like a dummy account, right, this is just 151 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 6: somebody yank at everybody's. 152 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: Chain, and it was real. 153 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 6: And then I started throwing papers up in the air 154 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 6: and scrunching up papers and tossing stuff out and crossing 155 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 6: stuff out and rearranging things on my rundown. And we've 156 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 6: come to this point reaction to the news of the day. 157 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 6: Initial thoughts they could not possibly run Jake Browning out 158 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 6: there again, he fell apart and I don't know, I 159 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 6: don't know why. Uh mentally he was done. I don't 160 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 6: know if it's the coquarterback yips. I feel badly for 161 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 6: him because Jake Browning had a rare opportunity. He had 162 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 6: a fifteen game runway to free agency. You know, the 163 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 6: thing with Joe's injury was it was going to provide 164 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 6: the opportunity for Jake to be the quarterback in all 165 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 6: likelihood the rest of the year. And how many backup 166 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 6: quarterbacks in their walk year, their contract year get fifteen 167 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 6: games to show the. 168 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 2: Rest of the league what he has. 169 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 6: And I can recite the points that I gave off 170 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 6: the top of my head. I remember doing the video 171 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 6: or the are the Bengals done? I think they're just 172 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 6: getting started, and I could recite the numbers. Jake Browning 173 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 6: in twenty twenty three, when he was last the Bengals 174 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 6: starting quarterback, went four and three. He won two overtime games. 175 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 6: He was the AFC Offensive Player of the Week. He 176 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 6: completed thirty two to thirty seven for three hundred and 177 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 6: fifty four yards and the Jacksonville win. I had all 178 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 6: the talking points about why what he did in twenty 179 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 6: twenty three was going to be of benefit in twenty 180 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 6: twenty five, and yet what he produced not solely on him, 181 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 6: but what he produced was an NFL quarterback level play 182 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 6: for three consecutive weeks. So they get Joe Flacco. Joe 183 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 6: Flacco is an immediate upgrade to the roster, specifically the 184 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 6: quarterback position. He has a proven resume, he has a 185 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 6: Super Bowl, he has experienced. He's got an arm, He's 186 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 6: got a high level of football IQ. He understands where 187 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 6: the ball needs to go. He's a ready made starter. 188 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 6: He can hit the ground running Sunday at Lambeau. He 189 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 6: knows the division he'll get unless something changes, He'll get 190 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 6: two more starts against the Steelers. He'll get two against 191 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 6: the Ravens. He'll get one against the Browns. He's already 192 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 6: played and beaten the Packers this season. He inherits the 193 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 6: best wide receiver corps he has ever had, bar Nunn, 194 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 6: and he provides a sense of hope for the locker room, 195 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 6: a sense that some help has arrived. And yet he's 196 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 6: the most immobile quarterback in the NFL. And now he's 197 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 6: playing behind the worst offensive line in the NFL. And 198 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 6: it's fair to wonder, can Zach Taylor really while we're 199 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 6: questioning everything that Zach calls and prepare his game plan wise, 200 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 6: can he really configure the offense for Joe Flacco on 201 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 6: the fly? 202 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: Is this ideal? No? Is it something? 203 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 3: Yes? 204 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 2: Are they better today than they were yesterday? 205 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 3: Yes? 206 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 2: They are? Was he the cheapest option yet? 207 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 6: Appears to be one point eight million this year in 208 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 6: his contract and they flip what six and fifteen round picks? 209 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 6: But you know what, they're still alive in the AFC 210 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 6: North and in the AFC playoff picture playoffs. Have you 211 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 6: looked at the standings? I know you just rolled your 212 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 6: eyes and said, give me a break. 213 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: Have you looked? 214 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 6: Do me a favor, go look at the AFC North 215 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 6: standings and then look at the AFC playoff pecking order 216 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 6: at the moment. What I always say in times like this, 217 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 6: what's the downside? It can't get worse. It absolutely cannot 218 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 6: get worse than scoring three points in the first half 219 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 6: of each of the last three games in an NFL game. 220 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 6: It's a chance to salvage the season before it completely 221 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 6: slips away. I'm a lot more interested in the season 222 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 6: than I was. Heck, I was walking into pay Corpse 223 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 6: Stadium yesterday for Bengals line thinking, and I'm at this thinking, 224 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 6: wait a minute, there are how many more weeks of this? 225 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 6: Because there was a sense of hope lost they turned 226 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 6: in the last three weeks. After the Minnesota game, I said, well, 227 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 6: they can't get any worse, and then it did. And 228 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 6: then after the Denver got I can't get any more, 229 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 6: and then it did. They could have gone with the 230 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 6: status quo. It would have helped their draft pick, higher 231 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:47,359 Speaker 6: draft pick, but at what cost growing player frustration internally 232 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 6: boiling over, and already damaged fan base being further damaged. 233 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 6: File this one under desperate times, Call for desperate measures. 234 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 6: I think these are desperate times, and this is acquiring 235 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 6: a forty year old quarterback is a desperate measure. They're 236 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 6: two and three. Could they go seven and five with 237 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 6: Joe Flacco the rest of the way, that'd be what 238 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 6: nine and eight, that'd at least be heading down the 239 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 6: stretch in in the way this AFC looks again. Go 240 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 6: look at the AFC playoff pecking order right now. So 241 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 6: this is where you come in. I'm going to take 242 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 6: my first time out. I want to open up the 243 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 6: phones five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand, one, 244 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 6: eight hundred, the big one. You become the voice and 245 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 6: star of the show. I want to know what you think. 246 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 6: I've given you what I think. I also ask for 247 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 6: a pole question. Ask for that in pole question for 248 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 6: him today on X Atlance McAllister. The question was your 249 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 6: thoughts on the Bengals trading for Joe Flacco? 250 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: Like it? Love it, don't like it? 251 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 6: Would you believe right now at this moment, the Bengals 252 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 6: approval rating on this trade is running seventy one percent. 253 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: For it? How about you? 254 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 6: Sounds like our talking point tonight. Let's get a check 255 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 6: on news then reaction. It's Rnel Carrier Sports Talk presented 256 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 6: by Kelsey Chevelle seven hundred WLW. All right, that initial 257 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 6: wave of votes in on the question thoughts on the 258 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 6: trade today to acquire Joe Flacco. If you follow on 259 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 6: Twitter X, thank you. If you don't, you should join us. 260 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 6: Some ninety five thousand strong makes for great input on 261 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 6: topics like this and conversation throughout the day. Right now, 262 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 6: approval rating running seventy one percent thoughts on the trade, 263 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 6: sixty percent say they like it, eleven percent say they 264 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 6: love it, twenty nine percent say they don't like it, 265 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 6: and an approval rating of seventy one percent for the 266 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 6: deal the Bengals made today. Look, there's no question there 267 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 6: was there was growing noise, there was there were flea fans, 268 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 6: there was fading interest. 269 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: There was a lot. 270 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 6: Going on, and rest assured a lot of people were 271 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 6: aware of all those scenarios, including the Bengals head coach 272 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 6: Zach Taylor. Listen to what Zach said yesterday, which has 273 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 6: become a regular routine for Zach of acknowledging everything that's 274 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 6: wrong and to this point not being able to offer 275 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 6: any solutions or fixes to it. But here's what Zach 276 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 6: said yesterday. 277 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 8: I called the plays on offense. I put this thing together. 278 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 8: I got to do better for this football team because 279 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 8: it just hasn't been good enough. And I put that 280 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 8: on myself and we got to get it fixed. I'm 281 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 8: confident that we're gonna get it fixed. It's disappointing and 282 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 8: frustrating again that we've we've scored three points three weeks 283 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 8: in a row in the first half that you can't 284 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 8: You're not gonna win. You're not gonna win against these 285 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 8: these teams we've been playing against when you do that. 286 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 8: So that's my responsibility to get that fixed and find 287 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 8: a way to score some more points. And I promise 288 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 8: you we're we no son on turn in getting that done. 289 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 8: I gotta keeps out of danger. There's some things I 290 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 8: gotta do a better job establishing, and just when the 291 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 8: offenses and score points that that follows the head coach 292 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 8: is to play caller. That's that's where it ends. 293 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: Right there, you know. 294 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 6: He said after the Minnesota game, it begins, it ends 295 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 6: with him. It's on him, And he said after the 296 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 6: Denver game, it's on him. 297 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 2: And he said after that game, it's on him. 298 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 6: And I marvel at how he continually, not just this season, 299 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,959 Speaker 6: but in years past, will so in a disengage disarming 300 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 6: way with a smile on his face, just make it 301 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 6: seem like it's going to be okay and accept full 302 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 6: responsibility and yet never fix anything. I don't ever recall 303 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 6: a coach who has said as much so many times 304 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 6: without being able to offer anything to back it up 305 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 6: in terms of solutions. But that's that's where we are now. 306 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 6: And this is the other comment that Zach made, that 307 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 6: it would be impossible not to catch your ear because 308 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 6: this has many levels and many layers to it. When 309 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 6: a head coach says something like this. 310 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 8: But to see her and say I'm not proud of 311 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 8: our football team for the way that they fought back, 312 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 8: that I wouldn't be true. I'm extremely proud of these guys, 313 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 8: the way that they continue to fight in the face 314 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 8: of adversity when it looks like it's real dim and 315 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 8: all of a sudden, there's some hope there that we 316 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 8: can get this thing done. And that's what this team's 317 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 8: made of. The five games in that's what I'm counting 318 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 8: on to get us through this. The last twelve games 319 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 8: where we can go win some games. I'm not oblivious 320 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 8: to what goes on in the AFC and their vision. 321 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 8: There's going to be plenty of opportunity there if we 322 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 8: can just get through this storm and stick together and 323 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 8: find a way to put some better positions on offense 324 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 8: together and score some points. And I'm absolutely confident that 325 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 8: we will get this thing turned around, and fans will 326 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 8: want to be in the stands, because I get it 327 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 8: right now, they're going to want to be in the stands. 328 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 8: And I look forward to sold out crowds again, back 329 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 8: to what we're used to, and I promise you it's 330 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 8: with every breath I got, we're going to continue to 331 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 8: work to get back to. 332 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 6: That understand that that acknowledgment there, because when coaches reached 333 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 6: the point of talking about the noise and fans in 334 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 6: the stands and getting back to the sold out days, 335 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 6: that's something that an organization is the discussing, not just 336 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 6: the head coach. And when the organization is discussing it, 337 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 6: the head coach is feeling it, and when he articulates 338 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 6: it publicly, you know that things are getting ratcheted up 339 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 6: in terms of internally about what's going on here. There 340 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 6: was a cavalcade of Honolulu Blue in the stands on 341 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 6: Sunday and throughout the city on Sunday. There are twelve 342 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 6: football games left. This team just played three that got 343 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 6: I'm not even willing to say high school level quarterback play. 344 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 6: That would be an insult to high school quarterbacks. That's 345 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 6: how poor the play was. Desperate times call for desperate measures. 346 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 6: Joe Flacco's here. Joe Flacco starts on Sunday for the 347 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 6: Bengals against Green Bay. Your reaction, we had to the phone, Steve, 348 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 6: you were on seven hundred WLW. 349 00:19:58,440 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 3: Height list. 350 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 11: I'd like to go from a kind of a different angle. 351 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 3: First. 352 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 11: I like it, but I think Jamar Chase is wanting 353 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 11: it because he's wanting to be the best receiver in 354 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 11: the NFL, not justin Jefferson. Jefferson is the main kind 355 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 11: of quarterback proof with all the quarterbacks he's been through 356 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 11: in his career, and he I know Chase had a 357 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 11: good game Sunday, but he struggled a couple before that 358 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 11: and a couple of years ago. So I think he's 359 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 11: wanting to, you know, one up his buddy. 360 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 6: Well, I think everybody on the team would be excited 361 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 6: that Joe Flacco's here. Versus Joe versus Jake Browning. I mean, 362 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 6: why wouldn't they Now, now there's an opportunity. Instead of 363 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 6: balls being thrown over them or in bounced in front 364 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 6: of them, or thrown into traffic around them, here's a 365 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 6: guy who knows where the ball should go. He might 366 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 6: not be the fleetest foot getting out of the pocket, 367 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 6: but this now is a change to a capable, incompetent 368 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 6: NFL quarterback. And for the life met don't know what 369 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 6: happened to Jake Browning from two years ago, but he 370 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 6: was not capable and he was not comp competent til 371 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 6: he's not gonna be the starting quarterback right right, Thank you, 372 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 6: thank you for checking in. Yeah, I would think there'd 373 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 6: be like many celebrations in thinking, man, maat, now we 374 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 6: got a chance. Now we got a chance score more 375 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 6: than three points. In the first half of three straight games. 376 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 6: They have been outscored by seventy one points this season. 377 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 6: That's the worst scoring differential in football. They had been 378 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 6: outscored sixty nine to nine in the first half of 379 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 6: the last three games. They were non competitive three weeks 380 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 6: in a row. I saw a stat from the Athletic that, 381 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 6: in losing by at least thirteen points three straight games 382 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 6: in the same season, that had not happened since two 383 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 6: thousand and two, and they were a fourteen and a 384 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 6: half point underdog going into Green Bay this weekend in 385 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 6: the NFL? Do you know how rare you know how 386 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 6: telling a fourteen and a half game or fourteen and 387 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 6: a half point margin is from betting spread? Is it optimal? 388 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 6: Is it perfect? Absolutely? Not far from it. But it's 389 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 6: better than what they had. And if you look at 390 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 6: the standings, I see a Steelers team that is three 391 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 6: and one, then I see a Bengals team that's two 392 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 6: and three. Does anybody believe the Steelers will hold up 393 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 6: on the track they're on right now? Ravens one in four, 394 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 6: Browns one and four in the playoff picture this morning, 395 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 6: the pecking order of the AFC in a seven team 396 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 6: playoff field number seven in the order right now the 397 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 6: New England Patriots at three and two at number eight 398 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 6: in the pecking order, just below the line on the bubble. 399 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 6: According to NFL dot com, if you look at the breakdown, 400 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,959 Speaker 6: the Cincinnati Bengals Bengals are the current eight seed, the 401 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 6: Texans are the current nine seed. The Chiefs are the 402 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 6: current ten seed. For all that has gone wrong, as 403 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 6: bad as they look for three weeks, They're a game 404 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 6: back of the Steelers, with two games against them still ahead, 405 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 6: and they are eighth in a seven team playoff field. 406 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 6: Anybody scared by the Patriots and behind them the Texans 407 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 6: and Chiefs trying to figure it out their next four 408 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 6: games Packers, Steelers, Jets, Bears combined record seven nine and 409 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 6: one seven nine and one over their next four twelve 410 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 6: games left six against teams with a losing record. Overall 411 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 6: record of their remaining opponents twenty three thirty two and one, 412 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 6: twenty three wins, thirty two losses, one tie. I guess 413 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 6: my question would be, as we continue on the phones 414 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 6: and I continue to take your votes Atlance pacalister, how. 415 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 2: Could you not like the trade? What would be the 416 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 2: possible downside? 417 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 3: Well? 418 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 6: I hate asking it that way because then I get 419 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 6: all the unhappy, negative people. But how could you not 420 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 6: like the trade? What would be the downside of the trade. 421 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 6: When's the last time the Bengals did something this aggressive 422 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 6: in US inside the season? When's the last time the 423 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 6: Bengals do anything aggressive, let alone in the season. Remember 424 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 6: it's twenty seventeen. They had a deadline deal they were 425 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 6: sending aj mccanerran to the Browns. Hugh Jackson wanted AJ 426 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 6: mccern and AJ was told that he was being sent 427 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 6: to the Browns. And then it turns out that way 428 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 6: it was Sasha Brown. Sasha Brown who ran the business operations, 429 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 6: and he purposely remember this, didn't like facts in the 430 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 6: paperwork in time, and so the trade never went through. 431 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 6: And everybody, if I remember correctly, I was actually there 432 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 6: that day standing next to AJ mccieran is the questions 433 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 6: were being asked about being. 434 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 2: Traded, and then by the later in the afternoon, he. 435 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 6: Wasn't traded because the paper never got to the league 436 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 6: office because it was never sent in forty If I'm 437 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 6: unless I'm missing something, Kenny Starr in nineteen eighty six 438 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 6: when he was thirty seven, and Boomer started when he 439 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 6: came back for the Magical Run of ninety seven. What 440 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 6: he went four and one down the stretch? Boomer was 441 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 6: thirty six. Joe Flacco forty starting Sunday for your Cincinnati Bengals. 442 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 6: Back out to the phones. How about Lexington, we go Keith, 443 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 6: you were on seven hundred WLW oh good evening. 444 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 3: Lance. 445 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 12: Let me let me preface this with my kids I 446 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 12: have twin boys and they just left for Collins for 447 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 12: the first year. And I've gotten more texts from them 448 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 12: today about this than I have in the in the 449 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 12: first month they've been away. 450 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 2: Oh what does that tell you? Does that tell you 451 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 2: a new interest? 452 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 13: Exactly? 453 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 12: They had to do something, Yes, they had to do something, 454 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 12: and this was something with I did I think it 455 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 12: was gonna be Joe Flacco. I didn't the beginning for 456 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 12: pretty much free we did. Heck, you see you've seen 457 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 12: you see washed up quarterbacks you think are washed up 458 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 12: go to different teams, different systems and excel you. They're 459 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 12: all over the NFL right now. Who know? Yes, I 460 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 12: mean he could be awesome. He could be He could 461 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 12: get his head knocked off in the on the second 462 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 12: play of the game, but with with our offensive line. 463 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 12: But we did something. It's we couldn't have just kept 464 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 12: running fake browning out there every every week. It just 465 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 12: it was you had lost, Yes, the whole fan base. 466 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 12: So this this this revived it It's just a revival. 467 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 12: It may be short lived, it may be long lived, 468 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 12: but it's a revival. 469 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 2: That is what Arry Will said. 470 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 6: Chad, that's all our Keith, that's all neat, thanks for 471 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 6: checking in, all right, thank you? 472 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 2: All right, there you go. It's a revival. I like that. 473 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 6: Maybe short lived, but it's a revival. How about that? 474 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 6: More text about this than anything that had happened in 475 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 6: the season. Your thoughts five, one, three, seven, nine, The 476 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 6: big One. It's Arnel Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kel's 477 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 6: Chevrolet seven hundred WLW. I would venture to say it's 478 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 6: not often that the Bengals do something that plays to 479 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 6: an approval rating of over seventy percent. 480 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,959 Speaker 2: That's what the trade has done. Today. 481 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 6: What the Bengals effectively did was take a shot, make 482 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 6: an effort to save the season. 483 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: Will it work? Don't know? 484 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 6: Is it too late? Probably? Could they have done more earlier? 485 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 6: Should they have trade if they were going to trade, 486 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 6: trade in training camp for more offensive line help, or 487 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 6: be more active and free agency? Absolutely? I agree on 488 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 6: all those points. But that was then and this is now, 489 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 6: and I can only deal with now. And the now 490 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 6: is the Bengals made a trade today to bring in 491 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 6: a starting quarterback for Sunday's game and going forward an 492 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 6: effort to save a season that was slipping away. And 493 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 6: the question becomes on the heels of the last caller 494 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 6: who called it a revival might be short lived. Does 495 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 6: it move your needle, because don't think for a second, 496 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 6: you don't factor in this when Zach Taylor is talking 497 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 6: openly consecutive days about the noise, the crowds, the booing, 498 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 6: understanding the fans wanted Jake removed in the third quarter. 499 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,479 Speaker 6: We're gonna get back to sell out crowds like we 500 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 6: used to. When that's being articulated publicly by the head coach, 501 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 6: those reverberations have been felt up and down the hallways. 502 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 6: There was grave concern about this season being lost five 503 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 6: weeks in. Hell, there were grave concerns about the season 504 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 6: being lost two weeks in when Joe got hurt. But 505 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 6: the sense then was, hey, Jake has won before. We 506 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 6: went four and three with him two years ago. Can 507 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 6: we hang around, Maybe Joe comes back, and then huh, 508 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 6: dud followed by dud, followed by dud in three non 509 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:58,719 Speaker 6: competitive performances, and today I don't think it's a stretch 510 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,719 Speaker 6: to say they shock football by trading for forty year 511 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 6: old Joe Flacco. Out to the phones in Cleeves, Hey, Chuck, 512 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 6: welcome to seven hundred w l W. 513 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 2: How you doing man, I'm okay, how about you. 514 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 3: That's ee man, that's e bay. I was at that 515 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 3: game last week. I thought I was back in the 516 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 3: service with all those waves of blue. 517 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was uh go ahead. 518 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 3: That was bad. I left it halftime. Yeah it is. 519 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 3: It was bad. But when the Steelers come to town, 520 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 3: we need need to name it the Silver Bowl. 521 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 2: We need to do what. 522 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 3: We need to name it the Silver Bowl. 523 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 6: Well, let's worry about first things first, and that would 524 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 6: be this weekend, thank you. I wouldn't be worried about 525 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 6: the Steelers fans at this point. I'd be worried about 526 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 6: designing an offense and keeping Joe Flacco upright and mobile, 527 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 6: because there's no there's no doubt he's got the arm 528 00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 6: Jake Browning didn't have. 529 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 2: I don't know what happen into his arm. I don't know. 530 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 6: I mean Jake Browning to me, and it's one of 531 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 6: the more perplexing things I've ever seen. He he came undone, 532 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 6: I mean, what what what happens Sunday in the postgame 533 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 6: with with his public articulation of everything that had gone 534 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 6: wrong in his body language on the sidelines and coming 535 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 6: off the field. It was it was not that of 536 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 6: an NFL quarterback. It was of somebody who had been wrecked, devastated, 537 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 6: who didn't have answers. I mean, I don't know how 538 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 6: having watched his performance and then heard him talk after 539 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 6: the game, I don't know how anybody could have come 540 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 6: away thinking he was going to be good to go 541 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 6: to quarterback this team and lead it again. Because to me, 542 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 6: he was effectively done on Sunday, not just based on performance, 543 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 6: but based on the way he handled or did not 544 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 6: handle it. It was a it was a very uncomfortable meltdown, 545 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 6: and it's not something you're used to seeing from I 546 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 6: was gonna say, NFL starting quarterbacks, any quarterback, you just 547 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 6: can't be that way. 548 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 2: He was devastated. No, I mean, I feel for him, but. 549 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 6: I can't be the only one who thought he looked 550 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 6: and sounded done on Sunday, And clearly the Bengals thought 551 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 6: that long before me. Let's do this, I had initially 552 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 6: earlier today set this up as kind of a Reds 553 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 6: wrap up season and review. We can do that tomorrow night, 554 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 6: maybe seven o'clock hour. We can do that anytime. In 555 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 6: all honesty, I don't know how I would deviate from 556 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 6: the current course of your opportunity to react to the 557 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 6: news of the day, the news around the NFL. The 558 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 6: Bengals have a quarterback who will start on Sunday named 559 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 6: Joe Flacco. Did they move your needle? Can they save 560 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 6: their season? It's RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey 561 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 6: Chevrolet seven hunterd WLW. 562 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: The following takes place between seven pm and eight pm. 563 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 2: All right, let's keep it moving. 564 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 6: Seven oh eight seven hunterd WLW Welcome into RNL Carrier 565 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 6: Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. I'm Lance pick at last, 566 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 6: coming up before the hour is over. On this date 567 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 6: in Red's history, you will hear some audio of this date, 568 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 6: nineteen sixty one, Game three of the World Series between 569 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 6: the Reds and the Yankees. That towards the end of 570 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 6: the hour eight o'clock hour, you see football conversation. It's 571 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 6: the Centerfield Show right here on seven HUNDREDLW. I will 572 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 6: admit my morning and I'll begin. I'm in my office downstairs, 573 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 6: seven thirty. I'm drinking my first cup of coffee. I'm 574 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 6: laying out the show. I thought since yesterday. You know, 575 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 6: how do you play how do you play out and 576 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,239 Speaker 6: plot out the week. I had Bengals line last night 577 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 6: part of me, and I'll be honest, part of me. 578 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 6: Last night after Bengals line, I'm thinking, all right, I 579 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 6: did three full hours of Bengals on Bengals line. 580 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 2: I don't know if I can do it again on 581 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 2: Tuesday night. 582 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 6: And I know I've got the Roundtable show on Wednesdays, 583 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 6: Zach's Gonna Talk or on Thursdays, Zach's Gonna Talk. On Wednesday, 584 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 6: there'll be plenty of Bengals coming. I said, should I 585 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 6: Should I do reds to begin the Tuesday show, kind 586 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 6: of a red season review, thoughts, observations, takeaway from the game. 587 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 2: And I thought, maybe I'll go that way. 588 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 6: And then I started thinking, now, I mean, it sounded 589 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 6: like Zach left the door open a little bit on Monday. 590 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 6: There could be a quarterback change. What might happen? So 591 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 6: then that makes the opes topic for tonight, the what 592 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 6: would you do? A perfect sports talk radio conversation? What 593 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 6: would you do in this situation? And so I started 594 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 6: plotting that out and I'm drew. I'm on to my 595 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 6: second cup of coffee this morning, and I gotta lay down. 596 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 6: You know, if you've lost three straight games, outscored what 597 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 6: one thirteen to thirty seven? Whatever the ridiculous numbers are. 598 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 6: The franchise quarterbacks not walking through that door, probably not 599 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 6: returning this season. The backup's been in the system for 600 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 6: over three years, and Curly has the highest interception rate 601 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,959 Speaker 6: in the league, and seemed rattled and indecisive and late 602 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 6: pulling the trigger and sounded like a broken man on Sunday. 603 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 6: And I'm thinking, man, you've had a coach who has 604 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 6: seemingly pivoted from a public declaration of an unwavering belief 605 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 6: in Jake Browning to yesterday. Well, we'll see where it goes. 606 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 6: And I'm thinking, all right, I lay this out, and 607 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,399 Speaker 6: then you know the idea that there aren't a lot 608 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 6: of options and solutions or hail mary's. They're very limited 609 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 6: at this point. The backup, Brett Ripping, is someone that 610 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 6: you wouldn't know if he walked in and sat at 611 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 6: your dinner table tonight. He didn't budge from the bench 612 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 6: on Sunday while Jake Browning was throwing away the game 613 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 6: with his third interception to begin the second half. One 614 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 6: of the practice squad quarterbacks was cut earlier this morning, 615 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,760 Speaker 6: and the other one, the local product in Sean Clifford remains. 616 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 6: But you know you're laying out all the scenarios. Do 617 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 6: you stick with Jake on Wednesday? Do you go to 618 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 6: ripping the backup? Do you go to a practice squad guy? 619 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 6: Do you make a trade? The clock's ticking. Practice is 620 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 6: one thirty tomorrow. If you're going to make a trade, 621 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 6: you gotta make it today to get that player in 622 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 6: tomorrow onto the practice field by one thirty. And oh, 623 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 6: by the way, in all of these scenarios, the Bengals 624 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 6: are only a game out of the division lead and 625 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 6: eighth in a seventeen playoff field. 626 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 2: Right now in the AFC. 627 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 6: And so I laid all that out, had it plotted 628 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 6: out for each segment in the six o'clock hour, and 629 00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 6: then boom, trade happens, and part of me threw my 630 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 6: hands up, and then part of me said, well, I 631 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 6: still have a topic, because now everybody's going to be 632 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 6: right reacting to Joe Flacco, and that's where we are. 633 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 6: Joe Flacco ultimately is the only guy they could bring 634 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 6: in that could start on Sunday. Realistically, Joe Flacco with 635 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 6: his experience, with his knowledge in the division, but more 636 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 6: specifically of the Patriots or the Packers this weekend. 637 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 2: He's the only one they could have. 638 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 6: Traded for today and realistically been able to give them 639 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 6: a chance on Sunday. And if you think of the 640 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 6: quick turnaround next Thursday for a game, realistically, there was 641 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 6: nobody else who was going to be able to come 642 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 6: in and start that quickly and have a grasp of 643 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 6: the offense. So we were going to you were going 644 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 6: to waste two more games on the season, and they 645 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 6: couldn't afford to waste two more games. 646 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 2: I mean, I. 647 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 6: Think whoever take the name Joe Flacco out, whoever that 648 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 6: quarterback x y Z, if they were a veteran who'd 649 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 6: been in a number of offenses, who knew the Green 650 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 6: Bay Packers, who was had an accomplished resume in an 651 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 6: arm that would have been the guy that made the 652 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 6: most sense in trading for. Because of the immediacy of 653 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 6: the situation, they were gonna sit back and roll out 654 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 6: Jake for one more game or Bret ripping for one 655 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 6: more game. In a reality, it was going to be 656 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 6: at least two more games, and the way the season 657 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 6: was going, it would have been over. 658 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 2: And I get it. 659 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 6: I've heard from many people today, many who said, I 660 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,879 Speaker 6: don't know why they just don't tank. Tank, trade Trey, 661 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 6: get a better draft pick next year. This season's gone, 662 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 6: it's over. 663 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 2: Lance. 664 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 6: Try telling that to Jamar Chase or t Higgins or 665 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 6: Mike Kasiki or Chase Brown, or try telling that. 666 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,280 Speaker 2: To the fans. 667 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 6: I mean, you can't give up five games into a 668 00:37:51,640 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 6: season with seven with twelve games to go. You gotta try. 669 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 6: I don't know what I would compare this to in 670 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 6: terms of something as drastic in season as this. I 671 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 6: have no idea if it's gonna work. I do know 672 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 6: it's an effort to save the season, and I do 673 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 6: know it has created a spark, a spark of interest, 674 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 6: if not intrigue, if not skepticism. And I get the skepticism. 675 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 6: On one hand, He's already made starter. He can hit 676 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 6: the ground running on Sunday. He knows the division. He's 677 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 6: gonna play five more division games the rest of the year. 678 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,439 Speaker 6: He's already played the Packers and beat him. He wasn't 679 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 6: great in that game, but they beat him thirteen to ten. 680 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 6: He gets to throw to Chase and Higgins and you're 681 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 6: SICKI and guys like he's never thrown to before, and 682 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 6: he provides a locker room, a sense of hope, something 683 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 6: to rally around. And yet he's a statue, doesn't move well. 684 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 6: And oh, by the way, he's playing behind a very 685 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 6: poor offensive line, and you're asking the offensive coordinator, who 686 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 6: nobody believes can really scheme and game plan to do 687 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 6: it on the fly for this guy. Not ideal, but 688 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 6: it's something, and I know this. Skeptics say, well, it's 689 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 6: the cheapest option, so that's why they did it. I mean, 690 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 6: Jamis Winston is a third string quarterback. Russell Wilson is 691 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 6: Russell Wilson with a whole lot of things that bug 692 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 6: a whole lot of people. And if honestly, if I'm 693 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,479 Speaker 6: a team that has either one of those guys, knowing 694 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,760 Speaker 6: how desperate the Bengals are, nobody knows what the asking 695 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 6: price is. But I guarant dante, if I'm a team 696 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 6: that has either one and the Bengals come calling as 697 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 6: desperate as they are right now, I'm jacking that asking 698 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 6: price up up whatever it was, raise at another level 699 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 6: or two in terms of the draft choice and round. 700 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 6: So I don't get into the scenarios that nobody knows 701 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 6: of what it would have cost and why they didn't 702 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 6: do it. I get the easy default is they did 703 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 6: this because it's cheap. Well, the fact is he only 704 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,399 Speaker 6: makes one point eight six I think million this year, 705 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 6: and they flip a fifth and a sixth. So that's 706 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:19,439 Speaker 6: not and you get approven quarterback. I'll take it. I'll 707 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 6: take it because it gives me a reason to stay 708 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 6: engaged for Sunday. If for no other reason, then too, 709 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 6: maybe with one eye like over one part of my face, 710 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 6: like I don't know if I can look, but here here, 711 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 6: here goes Micah Persons, Joe Flacco. 712 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 2: But it beats. 713 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 6: Turning and sinking my head into my lap, thinking there 714 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 6: are twelve more weeks of this. To the phones five one, three, 715 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 6: seven four nine, seven thousand, eight hundred, the big one 716 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,280 Speaker 6: penny you were on seven hundred WLW. 717 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 14: Well, I just want to make a little run down here. 718 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 14: I think Jake was holding his head down, acting all 719 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 14: weird because he didn't come out of the gate like 720 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,879 Speaker 14: he did last time we needed. I think he knew 721 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 14: his goose was cooked. But I got some a couple 722 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 14: of things. Listening to Zach, Zach, I'm going to call 723 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 14: the call nobody else's phone call, Hey, what about the 724 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 14: guy throwing the ball. Doesn't he have some insight down 725 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 14: on the field. I mean, it's it's a little craziness 726 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 14: the way he's been talking. And then these guys down 727 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 14: the field, isn't it their job to get open so 728 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 14: they can get that ball. I mean, doesn't seem like 729 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 14: anyone's really hitting the mark here. So I'm looking forward. 730 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 14: So let's try this new quarterback. But some of these 731 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 14: other guys are going to have to fall in line. 732 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 6: Penny, thank you for your thoughts. J'sult and thank you 733 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 6: for calling I think is it or ganization? They looked 734 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,879 Speaker 6: looked at the tape and said, we just can't let 735 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 6: Jake drop back and throw the football anymore because the 736 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 6: read's not right, the timing's not there. It's just he 737 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 6: had a short dropping through to Yoshi on Sunday and 738 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 6: I looked at it, I rewound and I said, what 739 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 6: was that. I mean, he threw a short out to Yoshi, 740 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 6: who was double teamed wrapped up, and threw it at him, 741 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,959 Speaker 6: and there was just a breakdown in all And maybe 742 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 6: it starts with a breakdown in all confidence, but he 743 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 6: had been reduced to a shell of himself and I 744 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,760 Speaker 6: think when you've scored in the NFL, when you've scored 745 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 6: three points in the first half in three consecutive weeks, 746 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,359 Speaker 6: you reach a point where you say, in good faith, 747 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:46,280 Speaker 6: in good conscious, we can't send that quarterback back. 748 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 2: Out onto the field. 749 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,240 Speaker 6: That doesn't mean the other everything else has been perfect, 750 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 6: and it's all on Jake. There's fingerprints all over this, 751 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 6: but it starts with making a change of quarterback because 752 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 6: they simply, if they were going to be viewed as 753 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 6: serious about this, they simply couldn't Jake back out to 754 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 6: quarterback again. Christopher, Jim Tyler, Gregory, Chad Bill and others. 755 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 6: It's what everybody's talking about today, So you know what, 756 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 6: It's what we're talking about tonight as we continue with 757 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 6: the RNL Carrier Sports DOOC presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven 758 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 6: hundred WLW. All things considered, their options were limited. Were 759 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 6: you really gonna ride with Jake again? 760 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:29,879 Speaker 2: Was there? 761 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 6: I guess the argument would have been, well, he did 762 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 6: engineer three consecutive scoring drives. On Sunday, they'd gone nineteen 763 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 6: straight drives without a touchdown, and then Jake led him 764 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 6: to three straight scores, including a sixty five yard touchdown 765 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 6: to Jamar Chase. That could have been a way of 766 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 6: looking at it. Maybe maybe it clicks, maybe it settles 767 00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:01,800 Speaker 6: him down. Maybe this is the real Jake Odds are 768 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 6: no backup on the roster or practice squad player. Had 769 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,399 Speaker 6: they gone to him, I think it's safe to say, 770 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 6: had they gone to Rippin on Sunday, nobody believes that 771 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 6: Ripping could have engineered three consecutive touchdown drives. 772 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:21,359 Speaker 2: That's fair. So you could ride with Jake. 773 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 6: You could call on Ripping this week, five years, four starts, 774 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,879 Speaker 6: twice as many interceptions as touchdowns. You could call up 775 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 6: Sean Clifford from the practice squad, but the question would 776 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 6: immediate question would be, well, if he's ready to start, 777 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 6: why wasn't he year backup quarterback you could have traded 778 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:48,320 Speaker 6: for I guess Russell Wilson to be on his fourth 779 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 6: team in two and a half years. 780 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 2: Why do you think that is? 781 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 6: You could trade for Jamis Winston, who's a better personality 782 00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 6: than a quarterback, a better SoundBite than a passer, and 783 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 6: touchdowns since twenty twenty two. But he's got a great 784 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 6: smile and he makes people laugh. Kirk Cousins, I wish 785 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 6: somebody would look at the contract of Kirk Cousins. So 786 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 6: you're left with what trading for a quarterback and trading 787 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 6: for one who gives you a chance to save your 788 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,919 Speaker 6: season before it's too late. And lo and behold, here 789 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 6: comes Joe Flacco, able to quarterback your team on Sunday 790 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 6: and handle the quick turnaround to Thursday night against the Steelers. 791 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 2: Let's go back out to the phones, Florence we go. 792 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 6: Hey, Jim, you were on seven hundred WLWYRI. 793 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 2: I'm good. What do you think of all this? 794 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 3: Well, I'm excited. 795 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,439 Speaker 4: I would I would have thought that I am would 796 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,840 Speaker 4: have heard more excitement from the callers so far because 797 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 4: this is a possible resurrection of our season. You know 798 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 4: that there was no hope at all. Oh my god, 799 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 4: it's Chilke Platos. I mean, this isn't Joe Baum they got. 800 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 4: This is Chilke Placo. He has a Super Bowl. 801 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 6: Ring, plenty of experience, a big arm, and an understanding 802 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 6: of where to get the football to and they need that. 803 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yet see. 804 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 4: And I think that's what Ronnie lack. And I'm not 805 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 4: trying to bust on me clip That's what I think 806 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 4: he lacked. And I think That's why I saw the frustration. 807 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 4: I'm only fall still photos of uh, you know, to 808 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 4: mar Chase and figures on the sideline, but to look 809 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 4: on their feet as a homeless like oh no, you know. Yeah, 810 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 4: So they don't broadcast the Bengals games out here on 811 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 4: the West Coast, but uh, I try to read the 812 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 4: headlines and follow on my phone, you know, to the 813 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 4: statistics and everything. 814 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 3: But my biggest hope is now, and I want all 815 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 3: of us to staty to remember this, this is what 816 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 3: this hart greatest. 817 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 4: Hope that who else knows the AMC North better than Plato? 818 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 3: The Ravens and the brown right yep, and played against the. 819 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 2: Bengals, I mean and Steelers, and and he gets to 820 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 2: throw the ball to Jamar Jason T. Higgins. 821 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 6: How'd you like to have that gig to be able 822 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 6: to throw the ball at those weapons? 823 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 3: Oh? I know, I'm so excited, I really am. I 824 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,320 Speaker 3: was so depressed. 825 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,879 Speaker 4: Bowls was out and I haven't been followed any other 826 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 4: other football games. 827 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 3: I didn't even watch Monday nights. Football is like, who cares? 828 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 3: You know, my team is out for the season. 829 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 4: Who cares about football? 830 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 2: I feel? 831 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, now on my excitements, back. 832 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 4: Well, anyway, that stuff that was my two pennies. 833 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 3: Lance. 834 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 4: We have posts now. 835 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 3: Like real oh. 836 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 4: One last one? Yeah, how was he going to be 837 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 4: able to be ready to start so soon? 838 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 6: It will be a course in learning at offense. Now, 839 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 6: remember this is his seven different teams, so he's learned 840 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 6: a lot of different offenses. So it'll be it'll be 841 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,799 Speaker 6: staying up late, late hours of studying and preparing. But 842 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 6: I think if if there's anybody who is capable of 843 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 6: doing it, it would be the forty year old veteran 844 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 6: who's been there, done that for eighteen years. 845 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 3: Well, all right, my hope is fock. 846 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 7: I'm happy against all right. 847 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 3: Get happy against Cincinnati. We're gonna be fat. 848 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 6: There you go, by Jim, Thank you for calling, Thank 849 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 6: you for listening. He's excited. Jay Morrison noted Bengals Talk 850 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,720 Speaker 6: dot Com. The last time the Bengals acquired a player 851 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,240 Speaker 6: by trade with a division opponent, how about this nineteen 852 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 6: seventy two they got Hall of Fame to be wide 853 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,800 Speaker 6: receiver Charlie Joyner and linebacker Ron Pritchard from the Houston 854 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 6: Oilers for running backs Paul Robinson and Fred Willis. How 855 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 6: about that we've reached the bottom of the hour. I 856 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,239 Speaker 6: think we keep rolling with this every single line taking 857 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:58,280 Speaker 6: what's to talk Flacco? 858 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,879 Speaker 2: It's flackhole fever. I'm burn it up. Last caller said, 859 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 2: Hope is back. 860 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 6: S Arnel Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevallet, seven 861 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 6: hundred WLW. Emailer Steve posed the following notes Lance at 862 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 6: lancepacalister dot com if you'd like to email, He says, 863 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 6: look at the height for the Flaco versus Aaron Rodgers 864 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 6: game the Graybeard Bowl. Think about that next Thursday night, 865 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 6: assuming Flacco is still starting by then, forty year old 866 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,800 Speaker 6: Joe Flaco versus forty one year old Aaron Rodgers eighty 867 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 6: one combined years would I would have to think that 868 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 6: would be the oldest matchup of starting quarterbacks in NFL history. 869 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 6: I mean, I guess I'd have to think about who 870 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 6: like George Blando would have gone up against, or Brett 871 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,439 Speaker 6: Farb he played into his forties, Brady with somebody else 872 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,400 Speaker 6: who would have been that old? I mean eighty Can 873 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,359 Speaker 6: you think of anybody off the top of your head 874 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,880 Speaker 6: who's who combined for more than eighty one years of 875 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,799 Speaker 6: age with the two starting quarterbacks. 876 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 2: I think that would be a record, by the way. 877 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 6: Shout out to uh lou Anarumo, defensive coordinator to the Colts. 878 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 6: The Colts as of today are third in the NFL 879 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,359 Speaker 6: and points allowed only allowing seventeen point eight points a game, 880 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,400 Speaker 6: third in the NFL and points allowed, fifth in sacks, 881 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 6: fourth in interceptions, and fifth in takeaways. Could not be 882 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 6: happier for a good man in lou Anarumo. Back out 883 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,759 Speaker 6: to the phones. How about Hillsborough, Hey, Greg, welcome to 884 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:35,439 Speaker 6: sports Talk. 885 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:42,960 Speaker 13: Hey Lance, Hey, hey, everyone's forgetting the first game they played? 886 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:44,800 Speaker 13: How Flaco. 887 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,640 Speaker 5: It definitely could have won that game if the receivers 888 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 5: catch the ball. And I mean, and how he actually 889 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:58,279 Speaker 5: ran against the Bengals, So I mean, I think it's 890 00:50:58,320 --> 00:50:59,239 Speaker 5: definitely enough grade. 891 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I just pulled up the numbers in 892 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 6: that first game against the Bengals. Now, I can hear 893 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,759 Speaker 6: people say, no, it's against the Bengals defense. But he 894 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 6: went thirty one to forty five. He threw for two 895 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 6: hundred and ninety yards in a touchdown in that game. 896 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 13: And they didn't have their running game. 897 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, man, it was all Flack. 898 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, and he and he certainly doesn't have the weapons 899 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,360 Speaker 6: of Jamar chasing t Higgins didn't have the weapons of 900 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 6: Chasing Higgins. 901 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:22,840 Speaker 2: At that point. 902 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean I had to do something. I mean 903 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 13: for us the last. 904 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 6: Yes, that's that's the perfect point in all of this. 905 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:36,720 Speaker 6: They had to do something. Hey, greg thank you for listening, 906 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 6: Thanks for calling. All right, all right, have a good evening. 907 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 6: Not take anything everything away from the Browns because Harold 908 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 6: Fannon that that that guy's a dude. But man, the 909 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 6: opportunity to now, if you're Joe Flacco thinking, oh the 910 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 6: little career revival, here, I get to throw to Chasing 911 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 6: Higgins and Chase Brown and Mike Kasiki and guys like that. Bridgetown, Gregory, 912 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 6: what do you know? 913 00:51:58,760 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 3: Thanks for taking them work? 914 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 2: What do you think of all this? 915 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,839 Speaker 3: I liked the personally. 916 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,680 Speaker 15: I mean, if I was these people talking about why 917 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 15: I meant to do this, we could have tank. 918 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,400 Speaker 3: Come on, man, it's big five. There's no way you're 919 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,799 Speaker 3: talking about tanking in week five. I can't get through 920 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 3: twelve more weeks. I would just have to put watching. 921 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,719 Speaker 3: I don't understand what people expect her. There was two 922 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 3: passes in. 923 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,799 Speaker 15: Particular, and in that game, I think that you had 924 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,879 Speaker 15: a lady earlier who said, like Chase and Higgins ain't 925 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 15: getting open. 926 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,840 Speaker 3: They're getting open. They are getting open. He not putting 927 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 3: the ball where it's supposed to be. That's just the 928 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,840 Speaker 3: facts on that. There was one play where Chase was 929 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,879 Speaker 3: open on the sideline. 930 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 15: All you had to do is throw it to the 931 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,240 Speaker 15: outside a little bit. He threw it to the inside, 932 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,719 Speaker 15: Jamar Chase turned to the defensive back to break it up. 933 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,400 Speaker 15: And then on the other side of the field with 934 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,960 Speaker 15: the Higgins Higgins had all they was not open. 935 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,720 Speaker 3: And he threw it. He threw it to the inside 936 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 3: because of the outside, which was that last interception. 937 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,759 Speaker 15: And I just wait, I don't I don't what to 938 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 15: do you. I don't know how you can put this 939 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,680 Speaker 15: guy back out here. I don't know who these other 940 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 15: guys are, but I don't know. I think I heard 941 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 15: the name Pat why as I said, we'll put that 942 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,240 Speaker 15: guy in because it can't. 943 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 3: Be no worse than what you seeing right now. So 944 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 3: I'm cool with that. But I got a name for you, Lance. 945 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 3: It really ain't broad up. That would have really the 946 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:31,280 Speaker 3: city to blaze. Uh They dreamed back the uh andy dollars. 947 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,759 Speaker 6: They could well, And now I wonder in that name 948 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,879 Speaker 6: I've heard kicked around. But if I'm Carolina, I don't 949 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,239 Speaker 6: want to give up Andy Dalton because I consider him 950 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,719 Speaker 6: a really good insurance policy for Bryce Young. 951 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, Bryce's terrible. They trust, so I'll. 952 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 2: Keep Andy around about Carolina. 953 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 3: Thought that was funny, But to considered will this team was. 954 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 15: Broke after that that started the sent the body Leakers 955 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 15: was was was awful and. 956 00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 3: This was a game could have legit been in at 957 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,880 Speaker 3: the defenses playing really well in this game, and to 958 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,360 Speaker 3: shut down the best offense in the whole league is 959 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 3: just like, well, what more can you do? What more? 960 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 3: Did what? They say? The damn was going to break 961 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:12,800 Speaker 3: at some point? 962 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 6: Yes, Gregory, that's a great point because coming out of 963 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,759 Speaker 6: the locker room on Sunday, they were still within fourteen 964 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,319 Speaker 6: to three and they were getting the ball and then 965 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:25,400 Speaker 6: he throws just a horrific interception and that was it. 966 00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:26,359 Speaker 2: They were done then. 967 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,920 Speaker 15: And I see on the interception that he threw a 968 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,480 Speaker 15: boy Higgs, he doesn't even try to tackle the guy. 969 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,359 Speaker 3: He just kind of slumped his shoulders and just walked off. 970 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 3: I said, oh boy, they don't believe all this guy 971 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,839 Speaker 3: his trouble, and uh, we got to play Flack all right, 972 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 3: he's got to. 973 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,239 Speaker 2: Play got right now, Yes, got to crash course. 974 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 3: Yesterday were saying him on Saturday, trading for him on Saturday. 975 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:59,440 Speaker 3: He still plays Sunday, no matter what. Has I appreciate 976 00:54:59,480 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 3: the time. 977 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 2: I appreciate you check it in. 978 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:01,879 Speaker 3: Yeah. 979 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 2: I mean they could have. 980 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,680 Speaker 6: They could have picked him up by car Sunday morning 981 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,880 Speaker 6: and said, hey, we we need you to quarterback. 982 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:08,720 Speaker 2: This game in three hours. 983 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 6: And I think that was a better option than what 984 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,280 Speaker 6: what they were looking at at this point. Westchester Christopher, 985 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:15,319 Speaker 6: welcome to sports Talk. 986 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 3: Hey you doing man, I'm good. 987 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:19,719 Speaker 2: What do you got for me? 988 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:21,480 Speaker 3: Fantastic? 989 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,000 Speaker 16: You know what I say? Brow? 990 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 11: Why not? Why not? 991 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 992 00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 16: Brownie, Brownie is he's just not the guy. 993 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 7: He's just not the guy. 994 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,799 Speaker 6: Flacco has seen it all. He's played eighteen years. Will 995 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,000 Speaker 6: it be a challenge, absolutely, But he gets in tomorrow 996 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,760 Speaker 6: and he it's a it's a crash course in learning. 997 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,920 Speaker 6: He's learned offenses in eighty seven other organizations. This one 998 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 6: will be quick. 999 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,319 Speaker 16: Oh well, I guess one thing I can say is, uh, 1000 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:55,160 Speaker 16: putting Flaco, who's a forty year old veteran on the 1001 00:55:55,360 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 16: behind the offensive line that's kind of the others. Yeah, 1002 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 16: that's they're pretty good again. Yes, he did have t 1003 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,920 Speaker 16: Higgins and he has more Chase spiritual. 1004 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 6: Yes, but line, I suggest quick passes, lots of quick passes. 1005 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 3: I hope. 1006 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 16: So you give him like five seconds in the pocket 1007 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,239 Speaker 16: and I mean that. 1008 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:25,359 Speaker 6: Might be a yeah, it may be one step through, 1009 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,759 Speaker 6: one step through. Oh yeah, hey Christopher, thanks aboud you 1010 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 6: have a great night. Thanks all right, appreciate you checking in. 1011 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,440 Speaker 6: Let me grab a Chad and then Bill, Hey, Chad, 1012 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:34,440 Speaker 6: what do you make of all this? 1013 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:37,200 Speaker 17: I think he's preaty. 1014 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:37,520 Speaker 13: Listen. 1015 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,760 Speaker 18: I don't know what people I know, there's the biggest stuff. 1016 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 18: I know who they say about Zach Keller and his 1017 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,360 Speaker 18: play calls and everything. But they had to do something. 1018 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,360 Speaker 18: I was at the game Sunday. That was the worst 1019 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,239 Speaker 18: atmosphere I think I've been in a long time. I mean, 1020 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 18: you could tell and instead that the defense did their job. 1021 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,279 Speaker 18: I mean that's not called what if Jake Browne gave 1022 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,640 Speaker 18: them fourteen points or seven our entire I mean, what 1023 00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 18: else you want the defense to do? They and in 1024 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,760 Speaker 18: Denver the same thing. The defense was more out. They 1025 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,759 Speaker 18: were on thee every five I mean, no doubt and 1026 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 18: you have to give the Bengals credit here. And you 1027 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,000 Speaker 18: brought this point up. I mean, would have been nice 1028 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,000 Speaker 18: and maybe they went after Russell Wilson James Winston. But 1029 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 18: here's a thing, Like you said, you don't think the 1030 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 18: Giants are gonna boost that price up for that because 1031 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,440 Speaker 18: they know they want them. I mean, the Cleveland knows 1032 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,880 Speaker 18: they're not gonna have Flaka no more. They had nothing neat. 1033 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 18: I mean they got a citgroun Picktaseho everyone. I think 1034 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,960 Speaker 18: you have to give the Bengals credit here. They did 1035 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 18: something out worried about Zac Taylor. 1036 00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 12: Now I hope he gets justice. 1037 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:31,840 Speaker 18: Play can and not let Flock could be a sitting 1038 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,680 Speaker 18: duck because he's not mobile. But again, flack O Canaru. 1039 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 18: We all know he can read the defenses, and obviously 1040 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,520 Speaker 18: Flako knows his skill set. So I don't see what 1041 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 18: the downside of anythings is. 1042 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,680 Speaker 6: Let's go, Hey, Chad, I appreciate you calling, Thanks buddy, 1043 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 6: thank you, have a good night. One more to round 1044 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 6: it out on more and then we'll do on this 1045 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,880 Speaker 6: date in our final segment and Indiana we go, Hey, Bill, 1046 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:52,640 Speaker 6: you get the final Say what do you think of 1047 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:53,080 Speaker 6: all this. 1048 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:55,160 Speaker 3: What's going on? Last? 1049 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:55,919 Speaker 17: How you doing, dude? 1050 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,360 Speaker 2: I'm okay. Busy day, busy day, crazy day. 1051 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:00,360 Speaker 17: I got a couple of things. 1052 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:00,720 Speaker 3: Listen. 1053 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 2: I love the twenty four intro. We got to keep that, 1054 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,360 Speaker 2: thank you, old dude. 1055 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 3: The other and I love. 1056 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 17: The Sean Casey. So I'm back from the Sean Casey 1057 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,320 Speaker 17: Casey McAllister. I love when you hook up with that 1058 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 17: dude and catch back up with them. So that's that's 1059 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 17: all good stuff. 1060 00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:16,560 Speaker 2: Thank you. 1061 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 3: All right, you said it. 1062 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,960 Speaker 17: It can't get any worse, right, So me and everybody 1063 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,640 Speaker 17: else thought the Bengals were going to do nothing or 1064 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:29,160 Speaker 17: tank or whatever, and you know, it's like, let's go, 1065 00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,440 Speaker 17: we got to do something. And I appreciate the Bengals 1066 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:33,080 Speaker 17: doing something. 1067 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, give them a chance. Yeah go ahead, yea, yeah. 1068 00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:37,240 Speaker 17: Gives them a chance. 1069 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 3: All right. 1070 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,200 Speaker 17: So we said about the offensive line. We've been busting 1071 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:41,840 Speaker 17: on the offensive line the whole time. 1072 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:43,000 Speaker 3: It's like we. 1073 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,280 Speaker 17: Built this line for pass blockers, and now all of 1074 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 17: a sudden, we need to be run blockers, and the 1075 00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:48,240 Speaker 17: offensive line sucks. 1076 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 2: So now that we've got to. 1077 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 17: Pass her, the offensive line, you can't save. The offensive 1078 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,280 Speaker 17: line is a bad deal because now You've got a 1079 00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:56,040 Speaker 17: passer in there. 1080 00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,200 Speaker 6: Let's hope, let's hope they can give you enough, give 1081 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 6: him a sliver of time to get the ball where 1082 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:03,320 Speaker 6: it needs to go. 1083 00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,280 Speaker 17: Yeah, right on, and you're trading with the Browns, and 1084 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:08,440 Speaker 17: the brown screw everything up. 1085 00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,160 Speaker 2: So this has got to work out, right, Well, there's 1086 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:11,160 Speaker 2: another way to look at it. 1087 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 6: Absolutely, Hey, Bill, I gotta run, Thanks buddy, all right, 1088 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,880 Speaker 6: you as well. All Right, this was fun. I'm sweating. 1089 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,760 Speaker 6: That was a sprint for an hour and forty five minutes. 1090 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,200 Speaker 6: Talking to Joe Flacco. When we come back, I'm gonna 1091 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 6: give you a clip from on this date in Red's history. 1092 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,520 Speaker 6: You talk about a flashback on this date nineteen sixty one, 1093 00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,680 Speaker 6: it was Game three of the World Series between the 1094 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,280 Speaker 6: Reds and Yankees at Crosley Field. You were going to 1095 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,640 Speaker 6: hear Waite Hoyt and Bob Wolf with part of the 1096 00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:37,880 Speaker 6: call from. 1097 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,919 Speaker 2: This date nineteen sixty one. 1098 00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,959 Speaker 6: It is next Arnel Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey 1099 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:49,480 Speaker 6: Chevrolet seven hundred ww All right, let's figure out what 1100 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:53,160 Speaker 6: happened on this date in sports history, specifically Red's history. 1101 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:57,320 Speaker 6: October seventh, nineteen sixty one. They played Game three of 1102 00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,960 Speaker 6: the World Series at Crosley Field, the Reds and Yankee 1103 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:05,040 Speaker 6: even at a game a piece Yankees, Reds Bob Perky 1104 01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,360 Speaker 6: on the mound for the Reds. You were going to 1105 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,120 Speaker 6: hear from the archives a couple of minutes of Wade 1106 01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:13,920 Speaker 6: Hoyt and Bob Wolf, the setup to the game, the lineups, 1107 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:18,480 Speaker 6: and a couple of plays from this date, nineteen sixty 1108 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:19,600 Speaker 6: one hit it. 1109 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 10: The nineteen sixty one World Series has arrived in Cincinnati, 1110 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,480 Speaker 10: and as a matter of fact, it arrived by carved plane, 1111 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:30,480 Speaker 10: railroad and bust in sections. The van Guard arrived from 1112 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:34,360 Speaker 10: New York following Thursdays games. Fans and press and radio 1113 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:38,480 Speaker 10: and TV magazine and movies and news representatives. I've been 1114 01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:42,400 Speaker 10: arriving from home and abroad ever since I was afternoon. 1115 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,520 Speaker 10: Here's the World Series open for the first time in 1116 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,520 Speaker 10: twenty one years. It has just a gorgeous day, a 1117 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:52,080 Speaker 10: really tremendous day, and on a cloud in the sky, warm, delightful, 1118 01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 10: and the city is very very exciting. Yes and d 1119 01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:01,000 Speaker 10: Today's game is to be played right here Crosley Field, 1120 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 10: which has been the home of the Cincinnati Reds for 1121 01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,360 Speaker 10: as long as the oldest citizen can Remember there have 1122 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,320 Speaker 10: been but three modern World Series played here. 1123 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 3: This is the fourth, the Disasters. 1124 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,360 Speaker 10: World Series of nineteen nineteen, then the second one against 1125 01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:18,400 Speaker 10: the Yankees in nineteen thirty nine with unfortunate results for Cincinnati, 1126 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,000 Speaker 10: and in the third won the nineteen forty series when 1127 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,480 Speaker 10: the Reds defeated the Detroit Tigers in seven games, a 1128 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,960 Speaker 10: series which, by the way, saw Freddie Hutchinson, the president 1129 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:32,040 Speaker 10: Cincinnati manager pitching for Detroit. So twenty one years of 1130 01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:32,800 Speaker 10: pass since. 1131 01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,880 Speaker 3: Crosley Field has been gaily dressed. 1132 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,960 Speaker 10: Twenty one years since Pennant Fever. Griffis Ohio River City, 1133 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 10: twenty one years of Pennant Samon and now the queens 1134 01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,439 Speaker 10: City of Cincinnati Is Paul has responded to their National 1135 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:48,280 Speaker 10: League champions with an intensity which Pegger's description fall. 1136 01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:52,880 Speaker 19: The Cincinnati Reds. Ilo hit Cone, second baseman is the 1137 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:57,040 Speaker 19: lead off battle. Eddie Casco, the short stop, is batting second. 1138 01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:03,320 Speaker 19: Ada Pinson, the centate bielder is batting three. Robinson Pranky 1139 01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,240 Speaker 19: Robinson in right field today Robinson and right. 1140 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:07,920 Speaker 2: Deal today batting pot. 1141 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,320 Speaker 19: Varney Coleman, the first baseman batting fifth, bats left handed. 1142 01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:16,280 Speaker 19: Walley Post the left field of the right handed hitting 1143 01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:20,120 Speaker 19: left field of a bat FI six Post is batting six. 1144 01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:24,400 Speaker 19: Gene Freeze the third baseman and bat's right handed is 1145 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:29,360 Speaker 19: batting seven. Johnny Edwards Patching, who bats left handed, batting eight, 1146 01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,160 Speaker 19: and Bob Perkey, the knuckle bar artist and right handed, 1147 01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:35,760 Speaker 19: will be the pitcher for the Cincinnati Reds. He has 1148 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:37,880 Speaker 19: won sixteen and lost twelve. 1149 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,680 Speaker 3: Third two aways Chicin takes his lead. 1150 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 17: Scarfy Wines but pisor Robinson. 1151 01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:57,440 Speaker 20: Up there in there up against the Robinson first today, Whiner. 1152 01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,320 Speaker 10: The left field with skipped up against the face of 1153 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,840 Speaker 10: that wall and left worked to us. 1154 01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:05,520 Speaker 15: Life couldn't get to it. 1155 01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,240 Speaker 3: As the lad sweet fast No. One and off things. 1156 01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,479 Speaker 20: Robinson has his first two of the series and it's. 1157 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,400 Speaker 19: First ary eight. Roger Morris is the leadoff batter. In 1158 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,480 Speaker 19: the ninth inning, as Perky pitches, there's a ball in 1159 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:17,800 Speaker 19: on the right vale and. 1160 01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,440 Speaker 10: Then it goes the home run for Roger Marries his first. 1161 01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,000 Speaker 2: Hit of the series and it's a home run. 1162 01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,280 Speaker 19: And the Yankees all leading three to two tot in 1163 01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,959 Speaker 19: the South second two off the bottom of the ninth, 1164 01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,000 Speaker 19: the pitcher dot hitting ball off the hand of the 1165 01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,439 Speaker 19: royal Arroyal picked it up to the first. 1166 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,040 Speaker 2: The game is over there and the Yankees have won 1167 01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:40,480 Speaker 2: the third game of the World. 1168 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:41,880 Speaker 10: Series three to two. 1169 01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:46,840 Speaker 6: There you go, this date, nineteen sixty two from Krog 1170 01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,400 Speaker 6: In nineteen sixty one from Crosley Field, Game three of 1171 01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 6: the World Series WLWT personalities Bob Brawn and Mergery Spelman 1172 01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 6: sag the national anthem prior to that game, the first 1173 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:03,520 Speaker 6: which was thrown out by ninety nine year old Dummy Hoy, 1174 01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,760 Speaker 6: who was the most accomplished deaf player in Major League 1175 01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,760 Speaker 6: Baseball history. He would pass away a couple of months later. 1176 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:11,520 Speaker 6: He was inducted into the Reds Hall of Fame in 1177 01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,480 Speaker 6: two thousand and three. Also in attendance for that game 1178 01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:18,800 Speaker 6: on this date, Supreme Court Justice Earl Warren. It all 1179 01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:24,720 Speaker 6: happened this date, nineteen sixty one. In closing tonight, I 1180 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,960 Speaker 6: want to and leading into the Scott Saderfield Show and 1181 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,320 Speaker 6: You See Football, I want to send thoughts and prayers 1182 01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,600 Speaker 6: to Jim Kelly as he deals with what he's dealing 1183 01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,640 Speaker 6: with and what is ahead for him. Sadly, the announcement 1184 01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,280 Speaker 6: over the weekend from Dan Whode that Jim is going 1185 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,720 Speaker 6: to step away from his role as you See Football 1186 01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,640 Speaker 6: analyst to deal with his health concerns. Here's what Dan 1187 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,680 Speaker 6: said in the open of the broadcast on Saturday. 1188 01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,640 Speaker 9: For the past thirty five years, U See fans have 1189 01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:57,240 Speaker 9: been treated to exceptional color commentary from Jim Kelly Junior 1190 01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,400 Speaker 9: in for the past twenty six years, it's been one 1191 01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,640 Speaker 9: of the joys of my professional life to join Jim 1192 01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,439 Speaker 9: here in the broadcast booth. Well, today, we are sad 1193 01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,080 Speaker 9: to report that Jim has decided to step away from 1194 01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,440 Speaker 9: the mic for the rest of this season as he 1195 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,800 Speaker 9: battles cancer. We are going to miss him, and we 1196 01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:18,400 Speaker 9: know that you will too. The name Jim Kelly is 1197 01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:22,120 Speaker 9: synonymous with Bearcat Athletics. Between Jim and his dad, there 1198 01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:28,400 Speaker 9: has been a Jim Kelly at UC as a player, coach, administrator, 1199 01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:33,480 Speaker 9: or broadcaster nearly every year since nineteen forty seven. That 1200 01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:39,200 Speaker 9: is seventy eight years of Bearcat history. No family has 1201 01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:40,439 Speaker 9: meant more Jim. 1202 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:41,200 Speaker 2: We love you. 1203 01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,160 Speaker 9: The Bearcat family loves you. We are praying for your 1204 01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,400 Speaker 9: recovery and your return, and we will miss you in 1205 01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,920 Speaker 9: the booth today, so. 1206 01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:54,120 Speaker 6: Weill said from Dan Horde. Jim Kelly Junior the one 1207 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:57,040 Speaker 6: of the kindest individuals that you would ever want to meet. 1208 01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:02,400 Speaker 6: And Dan is so right the name in the family 1209 01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:07,440 Speaker 6: synonymous UC Athletics for as long as I've been alive. 1210 01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:12,200 Speaker 6: And Jim, We're thinking about you and sending those thoughts 1211 01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,959 Speaker 6: in prayers your way stick around. The news is next, 1212 01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,840 Speaker 6: and then it's the Scott Centerfield Show talking you see 1213 01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:22,120 Speaker 6: football ahead. This has been the Arnel Carriers Sports Talk, 1214 01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,960 Speaker 6: presented by Kelsey chevrole on Sevelt of