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Speaker 3: Say there's a Ben's not here one.

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Speaker 1: But it's just no one, No one cares, that is it?

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you guys can run that on BCT tonight

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Speaker 2: your eye on David Montgomery. A couple of different connections

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Speaker 4: I think it is something to keep your eye on there.

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Speaker 4: As I get rid of everything, you know, get read

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Speaker 4: And I don't believe the Broncos are in play there, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I think he's going to England.

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Speaker 2: General, they are built like these are different built. Hum,

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Speaker 3: They're playing lacrosse on knives on ice.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome.

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Speaker 2: That's just it all came together perfectly, all right Again,

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Speaker 3: I think that I think the main concern is that JK.

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Speaker 3: I think they were a team of destiny this year.

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Speaker 3: But I will say.

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Speaker 2: He represented the best of the available running backs, guy

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Speaker 4: I think there's value there. I just you know, they

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Speaker 4: And for me, you know what, there comes a point

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Speaker 3: You know, That's what it is. All right.

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Speaker 1: We'll continue to look at a lot of your texts. Here.

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have GM George Payton on the program.

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Speaker 2: The Rockies are gonna be playing our cover shirts at

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Speaker 2: You know Sean, so I would not assume it's gonna

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Speaker 2: And that'll be immediately following Sean, and then he is

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Speaker 2: just saying people are really giving you a hard time

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Speaker 2: on Twitter.

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Speaker 3: On your sock apparently ankle socks?

443
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Speaker 4: Is you know, for those who don't know, I wear

444
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Speaker 4: no show socks even more often than I wear black

445
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Speaker 4: VN A T shirts, which is a lot. Yeah, and

446
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Speaker 4: so I guess this is some people are just discovering

447
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Speaker 4: that that I wear no show socks, but that's what

448
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Speaker 4: I wear.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, Alex on twitters is, what's with the heel socks?

450
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Speaker 1: Only seen women wear? Those are?

451
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Speaker 2: D w on Twitter says did Ben borrow your kids socks?

452
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Speaker 2: That's tim?

453
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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's good stuff.

454
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Speaker 2: This Why is Ryan yelling did the rental Subaru not

455
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Speaker 2: come with a flannel blankets?

456
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Speaker 1: Please? Been for the love of my tenness, give Ryan

457
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Speaker 1: a hug?

458
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Speaker 4: Was I yelling your voice, maybe a little it maybe

459
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Speaker 4: a little louder on your mic than than I am.

460
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Speaker 3: What it is?

461
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Do I do I sound loud in your in yours?

462
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Speaker 1: A little bit?

463
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Speaker 4: You're a litter projecting a little bit. You're you're a

464
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Speaker 4: little more answers. I'm a little more. I also have

465
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Speaker 4: the microphone. I'm not you know, I'm not drinking the

466
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Speaker 4: microphone every time I talk.

467
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Speaker 2: Well, I tend to project, and we're supposed to do

468
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Speaker 2: in this business, and you tend to whatever.

469
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Speaker 1: The opposite of that is.

470
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just tend to you talk and then.

471
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Speaker 1: Your range is all over the place and no professional training.

472
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Speaker 1: What's That's exactly right?

473
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Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna tell you people like at least

474
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Speaker 2: like I have trained to be in a relative consis.

475
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Speaker 1: I have to keep it yellow, you right.

476
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Speaker 4: Whereas I I have no trade whatsoever. It's readily apparent

477
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Speaker 4: worked in abyss.

478
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Speaker 3: All right, one.

479
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Speaker 1: Text here before we get into the politics.

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Speaker 2: We're excited to see, Ben Ryan, do you expect the

481
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Speaker 2: Broncos to be the tight end free agent market? A

482
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Speaker 2: lot of options Kaitot and Dallas godd or Isaiah likely.

483
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would add a Joku to that list and

484
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Speaker 4: not saying that's not a personal endorsement.

485
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Speaker 3: That's more of a.

486
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Speaker 1: I just tweeted it out. You tell me not to

487
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Speaker 1: what that personal endorsement. Yeah, yeah, no.

488
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Speaker 4: That's not I would just say that add that to

489
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Speaker 4: that list there, there's they want somebody who can be

490
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Speaker 4: a pass catcher but also work in line, which obviously

491
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Speaker 4: is not Evan ingram Uh and to be faire, it's

492
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Speaker 4: not Adam Troutman either in terms of the pass catching

493
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Speaker 4: portion of it. So, you know, I think that that's

494
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Speaker 4: I think that in Djoku fits that mold, and I

495
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Speaker 4: believe that he would be somebody that they would at

496
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Speaker 4: least take a look at.

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Speaker 2: We started brushed over this the Broncos bringing in Kyle Kimp,

498
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Speaker 2: who is as an offensive assistant spent last season at

499
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Speaker 2: Drake's offensive coordinator in six years on the Iowa States.

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Speaker 3: Staff, former former quarterback, and Io was stating, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So is there anything to read into that than just

502
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Speaker 2: developing another young, up and coming coach.

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Speaker 4: Broncos certainly have reached into the collegiate quarter collegiate coaching ranks, yes,

504
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Speaker 4: they have, you know of late, and so I don't

505
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Speaker 4: know that read into that. There's not something I read

506
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Speaker 4: into that per se. But I know that the obviously

507
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Speaker 4: the Iowa state program has been quite good. There has

508
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Speaker 4: been quite a few great prospects that have come through there.

509
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Speaker 4: Look at the receivers that the Texans drafted last year.

510
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Speaker 4: You know, obviously go back to Dave Montgomery a.

511
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Speaker 3: Few years ago.

512
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Speaker 4: Matt Campbell ran a great program there before he finally

513
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Speaker 4: moved on. And I would say that, you know, he's

514
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Speaker 4: former former quarterback with collegiate coaching ties and ties to

515
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Speaker 4: some players, and.

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Speaker 3: I think that's what you should read into that.

517
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they hired Doug Belk as a defensive backs

518
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Speaker 2: coach from USC no no experience in the pros, but

519
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Speaker 2: bringing him up, and I think that's great. I mean,

520
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Speaker 2: you know, getting some some fresh opinions into the mix

521
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Speaker 2: of what you're doing. I mean that, you know, bringing

522
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Speaker 2: Jim Leonard in here was something that felt like a

523
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Speaker 2: bit of a coup, but an opportunity to develop.

524
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Speaker 1: And then of course he ends up being the.

525
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Speaker 2: Defensive coordinator for the Buffalo Bills, uh here in the offseason.

526
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I I do, I do like

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Speaker 1: those hires.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we've we spent a lot you know,

529
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Speaker 2: Ronald Curry's broad in his or wide receivers coach. You

530
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Speaker 2: mentioned the passing game coordinator Johnny Morton. I mean, those

531
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Speaker 2: are the names of the hires for the Broncos. I

532
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Speaker 2: don't know if there's anything specific to pull away from

533
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Speaker 2: those hires other than Okay, you have a couple of

534
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Speaker 2: guys that don't have any NFL experience whatsoever, at least

535
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Speaker 2: from a coaching standpoint, and now you're bringing them up,

536
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Speaker 2: and then a couple of guys have a lot of

537
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Speaker 2: coaching experience at the NFL level.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think they want a mix of that.

539
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Speaker 4: I think they want a youth infusion to kind of

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Speaker 4: shake things up. Now, Bell, of course was he was

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Speaker 4: a I think it was a dbi's coach for Saban

542
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Speaker 4: for a couple of years. I don't remember what his

543
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Speaker 4: exact title was, but I'm pretty sure he was a

544
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Speaker 4: dbi's coach for UH for Nick Saban for for three

545
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Speaker 4: or four years UH at Alabama.

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Speaker 3: So that's that's a little bit.

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Speaker 4: That's almost it's almost like pro coaching because when you're

548
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Speaker 4: running that Saban scheme, I mean, that's a lot of

549
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Speaker 4: the Fangio stuff is rude did in, uh that they

550
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Speaker 4: share a lot of similarities with the you know, the

551
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Speaker 4: C four, C six match type stuff.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about some of the prospects out

553
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Speaker 2: here that you're kind of looking forward to.

554
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Speaker 1: Misson Hilton is a guy that that you kind of

555
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Speaker 1: want to see.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think he's he might be one of the

557
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Speaker 4: fastest guys. Yeah, you know, he's he's gonna be a

558
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Speaker 4: guy's gonna.

559
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Speaker 3: Challenge for the fastest forty times, you know, as far

560
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Speaker 3: as that kind of stuff goes.

561
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Speaker 1: So what do you think about the wide receivers.

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Speaker 4: There's a couple of guys I like out of this draft,

563
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Speaker 4: you got, Uh, it depends on.

564
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Speaker 3: What you're looking for.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Cardl Tate's probably gonna.

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Speaker 2: Be the top of the draft, right him and Boston

567
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Speaker 2: and Jordan Tyson Zona State.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, those guys will bet the ty Lemon.

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Speaker 4: Uh Yeah, but there's some behind them. I think there's

570
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Speaker 4: some guys to like Zachary Branch, George out of Georgia's

571
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Speaker 4: Cliff Branch's nephew. By the way, you know, if somebody

572
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Speaker 4: keep riding, I really like Scotler Bell.

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Speaker 3: Gotta work on those hands a little bit.

574
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Speaker 4: Some consistency but he's somebody I think would would I

575
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Speaker 4: would love to see in a Broncos uniform.

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Speaker 1: I like Omar Cooper. Bell.

577
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Speaker 4: Bell really did well once he once he transferred back

578
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Speaker 4: to Yukon. You know, he he kind of highly heralded,

579
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Speaker 4: but didn't really fit into this his original stop.

580
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Speaker 3: Who would just mentioned there, Cooper? Yeah, I'm an I'm

581
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Speaker 3: I'm a pass on both Indiana receivers.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I loved Indiana picked him win the championship,

583
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Speaker 4: and then I'm kind of passing on most of their prospects.

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Speaker 1: Well, they're like day two guys. Yeah, I guess it

585
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Speaker 1: depends on.

586
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Speaker 4: Even Bell's a Day two guy, but I would be

587
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Speaker 4: all like, whatever team gets him, it's gonna be this

588
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Speaker 4: is gonna be one of those guys that they'd last

589
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Speaker 4: like round three and then you know, four years from now,

590
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Speaker 4: we're like, how did this guy last till round three?

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Speaker 1: All right?

592
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Speaker 3: Think of him as as Jerry.

593
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Speaker 4: Judy with a higher intelligence level and better hands. You know,

594
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Speaker 4: there's a lot of slot receivers in This would be

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Speaker 4: one of those.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Bell could play the Z two, but he also

597
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Speaker 3: played the slot.

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Speaker 4: Sure, fin fram guy six foot one five, But if

599
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Speaker 4: he puts on a little bit of weight, could be

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Speaker 4: something he's got great stop starts.

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Speaker 3: Same thing with Zach Raid Branch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah no, I like, yeah, yep, yep.

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Speaker 2: So what do you think about the people to say

604
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Speaker 2: that there isn't like a true one in this class?

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Speaker 4: I never term like, what are you talking about an

606
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Speaker 4: ex Z Like.

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Speaker 1: Like like Terro McMillan was like, he's an X That's

608
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, And most of the time when

609
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Speaker 1: we're talking about one.

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Speaker 3: And we're talking about it, excent fits that.

611
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Harrison coming out. But I like Neighbors Day

612
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Speaker 2: when he was also an ex.

613
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Speaker 3: But he could be z T he could he played there.

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Speaker 4: I I I mean there's a couple of guys like

615
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Speaker 4: Tate is, you know, as an all world athlete. I

616
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Speaker 4: think he's gonna be a stud in the pros. Tyson

617
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Speaker 4: I think is probably gonna be a stud in the pros.

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Speaker 4: I'm not as big on Boston as everybody else is.

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Speaker 4: Uh there's a kid, Uh, there's a kid ont of

620
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Speaker 4: Notre Dame that I think could be something.

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Speaker 3: He's probably Day two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you know uh Fields Fields Yeah, yeah for me, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he tore it up at the mobiles.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he looks like he's he's gonna be something.

625
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Speaker 3: There's a there's a couple of there's a couple of

626
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Speaker 3: guys out there.

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Speaker 4: I think could be that there's no there's nobody at

628
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Speaker 4: the exposition that's sitting there at the top and you're saying, hey,

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Speaker 4: this is a top five draft pick, although Tate probably

630
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Speaker 4: will go top five possible even to the Giants, by

631
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Speaker 4: the way, But I I, yeah, I don't think that

632
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Speaker 4: there's I don't think there's like a wide receiver one.

633
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Speaker 3: Maybe you were are we talking about from a fantasy

634
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Speaker 3: perspective or.

635
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Speaker 2: Well, it's like I was just mentioning with neighbors Harrison,

636
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Speaker 2: Ted McMillan. I mean those like those names when you

637
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Speaker 2: say them, it's like, well that that looks like a

638
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Speaker 2: guy that fits the description. And I know that you

639
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Speaker 2: hate the of a true one, but he fits the

640
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Speaker 2: description of somebody out there that when you draft them,

641
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Speaker 2: they get that kind of attention and they still produce,

642
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Speaker 2: like like if you're talking because most of the time,

643
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Speaker 2: like amm Ros saying, Brown is sort of reshaping the

644
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Speaker 2: mold of what we think about a one can be

645
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Speaker 2: because he's a guy that can play the slot and

646
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Speaker 2: he can put him outside, you can move him all

647
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Speaker 2: over the place.

648
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Speaker 3: Smith Smith and Jake the same way.

649
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Speaker 1: The same way. Right, there's there's but he is he

650
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Speaker 1: was a first rounder. But but he.

651
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Speaker 3: Was and viewed as that kind of guy. But kind

652
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Speaker 3: of so there's I think I think there's talent in

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Speaker 3: this draft. I don't know that.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that it's something where it's a surefire,

655
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Speaker 4: gotta have it or I'd trade up for.

656
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 3: You know, Julio Jones type where we were.

657
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Speaker 4: Salivating over the body archetype as well as the measurables.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that.

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Speaker 4: There's any of those, but there's some. There's certainly some

660
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 4: some decent receivers in his class. And and I mentioned

661
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Speaker 4: a couple of slot guys that I like. But there's

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Speaker 4: I mean there there are a couple of guys in

663
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 4: this class. I think that they're like all slot guys

664
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 4: just here.

665
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 3: Well, it is kind of that class. I mean, it's

666
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 3: a weird it's a weird class in.

667
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 4: A couple of different ways. This this draft is fat

668
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 4: in the middle. It's not heavy at the top, it's

669
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 4: fat in the middle. If you've got a lot of third, second, third,

670
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 4: fourth round picks. This is probably your draft. You don't

671
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 4: want to be picking in the top ten really in

672
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 4: this draft.

673
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, that is that. That is something to bring up, right,

674
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: And I'm actually with you on that.

675
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: I mean, there are there's a full of blue chip

676
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 2: players like Arvo Reese.

677
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 3: Of course, is the.

678
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 4: Class last year you had like twelve blue chip guys, right,

679
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 4: this class has like seven maybe maybe six maybe seven?

680
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: You know, I think I think you one hundred percent right,

681
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 2: and I do think next year's draft class could.

682
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 4: Be really fact and the reason he is, Okay, so

683
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 4: let's give it that. The reason that this draft class

684
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 4: is like that, right, you know why COVID. So COVID

685
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 4: gave additional eligibility to some to a lot of players, right, Uh.

686
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 3: And so what you had was guys at stay in school,

687
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 3: stay in schools, gameing school and all that kind of stuff.

688
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 4: And so but we finally run out of that, and

689
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 4: so we're in that gap year in between all the

690
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 4: COVID holdover type stuff and when you're getting a normal

691
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 4: draft class the following year. And so that's that's what

692
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 4: we're in, this gap year and between it where the

693
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 4: draft class just is not necessarily that good at the

694
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 4: top like it normally would be.

695
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: I like Caleb Downs a lot. I mean he's gonna

696
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 2: be Yeah, he's having gone way before.

697
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 3: The State's got a ton of players this year.

698
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: I love me some styles man like Style, Like honestly,

699
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: like I am, I don't want the Broncos to draft.

700
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 3: A linebacker in the first round.

701
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 4: But if Styles is there, you can't sprint to the

702
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 4: podium fast enough to throw that card at the commissioner.

703
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 4: I mostly I need him to flick it at him

704
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 4: like Gambit from X Men, you know.

705
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: Like most box have him, if not top ten, top Yeah, yeah,

706
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: he's got on DJ.

707
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: Allen ends up being available around that time. Jake Galdey

708
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: out of Cincinnati's another name that tends to be available

709
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: around that time, although I think you can get him

710
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: more of a Day two guy. Anthony Hill out of

711
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 2: Texas is another name that we'll be watching out here

712
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 2: as far as the inside linebackers. But I mean, yeah,

713
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: you're you're sunny Styles is that's another kind of player, man.

714
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 2: So ar bel Reese is study styles maybe going both

715
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: inside the top ten at linebacker, and again it depends

716
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: on a little bit for Arvel Reese, which you think

717
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: about him, do you leave him?

718
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: Is more of an edge or or off the ball guy?

719
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 4: Uh?

720
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 3: With rees?

721
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, or's like Michael Parsons where.

722
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 3: Yeah Parsons where you're a will or you're an edge,

723
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 3: you know, kind of both kind of thing.

724
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: The styles of Mike. He's Mike. Yeah, yeah, No, I

725
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: know that, but.

726
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 3: I would say they have a Reese is probably a will.

727
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, let's go tight ends just for a moment,

728
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 2: because you see a lot of mock drafts out there

729
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: with Kenyon Sadik go into the Broncos there it picked thirty.

730
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: Now. I do like Kenyon Sadik.

731
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: It's it's an interesting draft class because it's not like

732
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 2: last year where I mean, it's just it was an

733
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 2: embarrassment of talent a tight end.

734
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: And I don't view Kenyon Sadik in the same category.

735
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: For me. This for me as what I thought of

736
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren, Colson Loveland.

737
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: I thought they were if like Kenyon Sadik and those

738
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 2: two were in the class, I take both of them

739
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 2: way in.

740
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: Front of Sadik now as a as.

741
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: A pass catching tight end. There's a lot of promise there,

742
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: and you know, we get into the whole joker conversation.

743
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: I guess, but I say, Kenyan Sadik for me, if

744
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: he's there at thirty, I don't. I don't hate that pick.

745
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: But that's not like you mentioned the whole game throwing

746
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 2: the cart at the I don't know if I'm I'm there,

747
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: I'm there, I'd rather kind of wait a little bit.

748
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: I think i'd probably uh take like an.

749
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: Eli stores at a Vandy. I think I like Marlon

750
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 2: Klein in a Michigan.

751
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: I mean a little bit.

752
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: Bad because I I for me, I want I want

753
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: the combo like you already got.

754
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: Well.

755
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 3: I mentioned Max Claire earlier.

756
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: Max Claire's going to State.

757
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, keep your eye on. But I'm just saying, like

758
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 3: Michael Trigg got a Baylor.

759
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, those are good ones. I'm just thinking, like,

760
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: I want guys that have a big ability to block.

761
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 3: Oh, missus, h the kiss his name?

762
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 4: Who's I'm blanket on? But yeah, he you know that's

763
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 4: that's another one.

764
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a looking him up. I don't have that

765
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: in front of me.

766
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 3: Uh it's right, shoot one right, okay, sorry, text me

767
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 3: a minute. I can get old.

768
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 4: But yeah, there's there's a few here or there that

769
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 4: I just I would Here's the thing about tight ends, right,

770
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 4: they're like wine, takes them a little bit of age

771
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 4: and then then it's in the sweet spot. Noah had

772
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 4: an all time rookie season for a tight and it

773
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 4: wasn't even that much production.

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00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 3: Remember that. So it's it's you know, that's that's one

775
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 3: of those things.

776
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 4: Where yeah, we need one, uh, we do need a

777
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 4: draft one, but I'm not sure you want to spend

778
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 4: the early pick on that, pending what else is available,

779
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 4: especially in the draft.

780
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 3: Like I said that, there's not top heavy, it's real

781
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 3: fat in the middle, like this one.

782
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: The text line Jacob Rodriguz No matter what you and

783
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 2: I were, Yeah, I'm huge.

784
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 4: But there's two guys from Tech. I love, David Bailey

785
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 4: and Jacob Breder. He's both those guys from ball.

786
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: Bailey's first rounder. Yeah, Jacob Rodriguez State two probably probably,

787
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: and I would love to have him though. He's got

788
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: the right attitude. He's got that attitude you want to

789
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: add that kind of stuff.

790
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: I like.

791
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 4: Honestly, I would love for the Broncos to come away

792
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,959
Speaker 4: with resigning Singleton, bringing in Devin Lloyd, and then drafting

793
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 4: Rodriguez to kind of be the guy in the future.

794
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 4: You know, then you're then you've got a jacked room.

795
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 4: And when Singleton's done here in a year or two,

796
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 4: you can you know, you can plug him right in.

797
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a huge, huge fan of that.

798
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 2: Uh, this one, giving your assessment of the draft class

799
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: that there are only six or seven blue chip players

800
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: in a free agent class that's probably not as strong

801
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 2: as most years, do you think it's possible to Broncos

802
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: might spend less this year put a little money away

803
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:02,959
Speaker 2: for next season.

804
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 3: Well, okay, you can't. You can't really do that.

805
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 4: There's a there's a deal where you know, we talk

806
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 4: about rolling cap for it and stuff like that, but

807
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 4: you also have to spend on a five year average

808
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 4: to ninety one percent of floor for the CBA, So

809
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 4: you can't really do that at all times. What I

810
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 4: would say is the Broncos have already spent and what

811
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 4: I mean by that is the extensions that they handed out.

812
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 4: Those are about to kick in. So a lot of

813
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 4: the people talk about We're gonna have all this money

814
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 4: because the Russell Wilson think, well, not really. Broncos the

815
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 4: middle of the pack in the league, in terms of

816
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 4: available cap space, because most of that money is already spent.

817
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 3: It was spent on either or.

818
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 4: Extensions, and so I think, I think if you, if

819
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 4: you view the contract extensions as part of the free

820
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 4: agent class, we started.

821
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 3: To sort of start to understand.

822
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 4: I do think they could make a couple of big spends,

823
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 4: and I do think that they will sniff around the

824
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 4: Devin Lloyd thing.

825
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 3: You know, because I believe that they know they need

826
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 3: an off ball backer. And I don't think a green law.

827
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 3: I mean, I I just think that situation just just

828
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 3: didn't work out the way they wanted it.

829
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: This one. L L Claire has zero blocking skills to

830
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: this point. Sadik needs work in his past game, is

831
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: actually pretty.

832
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: Good at blocking in the run game above average, and

833
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: willing Stores is an f he can't block, probably too skinny.

834
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: I guess, I don't know.

835
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel.

836
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 3: Stores is a little a little lean.

837
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 4: But yeah, you're saying that Max Claire can't block, That's

838
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 4: what they're saying.

839
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess, I don't know.

840
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,959
Speaker 2: I guess I'll watch a little more Sadiq, But I

841
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 2: I liked him much better as pass catching tight end.

842
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: So that's just it.

843
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: But you know what we're gonna be. Well, I'm not

844
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 2: saying you can't. I'm just saying, like, just my my view.

845
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 2: You know, over the course of the week, we'll get

846
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 2: an assessment out here of of how people view me.

847
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 2: He's the number one tight end like on THEE there's

848
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: no there's nobody pushing against that. But Ben will Evan

849
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: Ingram are Ben Powers to be on the Broncos this season.

850
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 3: There's a chance both could be gone.

851
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 4: You know, I thought you got pretty good play out

852
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 4: of uh, what's his face filling.

853
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: In for Powers, Alex Poki?

854
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 3: Was it force or force? No, yeah, Paleski.

855
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 4: I thought you got pretty good play in his stead.

856
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 4: They say, you know, the contract is underwater, so you're

857
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 4: gonna figure something out with that. With Ben Powers, we'll see.

858
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 4: I know how Sean Payton values uh, certainly making sure

859
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 4: that the offensive line is where he wants it to be.

860
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 4: Evan Ingram, I think that was a bit of a disappointment.

861
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 4: He pretty much hit the statistical benchmarks.

862
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 3: I thought he's gonna hit.

863
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 4: Kind of funny in terms of which big statistics.

864
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 3: The force him.

865
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 4: Behind the line screen passes uh, anytime he got a

866
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 4: corner over the top and just you know, and just

867
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 4: bowldoze forward, and so you know, he's been a declining

868
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 4: production guy for years. Maybe you keep him, but there's

869
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 4: a scenario there where I think they blow out that

870
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 4: whole tight end room.

871
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,120
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