1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: It has been very patient of you, Nick, because I 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: know that you really want to talk about the defense. 3 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: So I do want to give some love to the 4 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Broncos defense. I thought they were spectacular yesterday. He had 5 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: five sacks, you held Drake May Now again they were 6 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: playing more conservative there in the second half. Ten completions 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: for eighty six yards passing Dave. 8 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. 9 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: We had a lot of discussion last week leading up 10 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: to the AFC Championship game about the defense, not a lot, 11 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: not forcing any punts against Buffalo. Seemingly Josh Allen moved 12 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: up and down the for nine Seemingly he did move 13 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: up and down the field on him. They were spectacular. 14 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: They gave that team every chance to win yesterday. 15 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 3: Yes, I think they did. Yeah, I mean the defense 16 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 3: played well enough to win. You hold an opponent to 17 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 3: ten points. The Patriots had the one drive, sixteen play 18 00:00:55,400 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: drive sixty four yards I think nine thirty one off 19 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: the clock, but the Broncos stopped them from getting into 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 3: the end zone. The patriots lone touchdown came on a 21 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 3: drive of twelve yards. That's what makes things even more frustrating, 22 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: because when you get a home game an AFC Championship game, 23 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 3: and then you get your defense to hold the visiting 24 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 3: team to ten points. 25 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: Now, I know, again you balance. 26 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 3: It out by saying, well, the Broncos were without bon Nicks, 27 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 3: and that was definitely a factor, a negative factor. 28 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: But it's just frustrating. 29 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 3: I'm sure everybody out there is frustrated with the notion 30 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 3: that they couldn't find a way to win that game, 31 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: and that game was imminently winnable. And I've said, Nick said, 32 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: you never know when you're going to get back to 33 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 3: the AFC Championship game. This was my thirty sixth year 34 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: broadcasting Broncos games. Thirty six years, and I have broadcast 35 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: seven AFC Championship games. So yeah, I mean, you know 36 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: you can do the math. It just doesn't happen frequently 37 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: for teams. New England had an unbelievable run with Brady 38 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 3: and Belichick. Kansas City had a shorter run, yet unbelievable 39 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 3: for sure with Mahomes and Andy Reid. But other than 40 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 3: those two and everybody else is just scrapping like crazy, 41 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 3: year to year to year trying to figure out a 42 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 3: way to win a game. So disappointing for sure. 43 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is one that you never really get over. 44 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 4: And the only way to get over you, guys, is 45 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 4: you got to get back there. I mean, because think 46 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 4: about where the Broncos are at this point. Last year, 47 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 4: they lost to Buffalo when no one really thought they 48 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 4: would be there in bo Nix's first year, right, so 49 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 4: they are well ahead of the schedule, and then coming 50 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 4: into the twenty twenty five season, I gave them ten 51 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 4: and eleven wins. 52 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 5: Now, unless I. 53 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 4: Know something a little different, I don't recall what you 54 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 4: guys picked at the beginning of the twenty twenty five season. 55 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 4: But I didn't have the Broncos playing this well and 56 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 4: hosting as a number one seed. I didn't see it. It 57 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 4: was great that it happened, and the likelihood that everything 58 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 4: will fall the same way. It is just like time 59 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 4: doesn't work that way for us, and the skeleton is 60 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 4: gonna be different next year. You're gonna have tougher opponents, 61 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 4: You're gonna play teams that are over five hundred, You're 62 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 4: gonna play more of those teams, and you're gonna play 63 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 4: a lot of those teams on the road. So this 64 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 4: was a moment, man, and I I felt for those 65 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 4: guys watching them across the field to congratulate the Patriots guys. 66 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:40,839 Speaker 5: And I didn't have to be in the locker room 67 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 5: to know. 68 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 4: What the temperament was, because when I was in that 69 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 4: same situation, I didn't. 70 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: Want to talk to anyone. 71 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 4: It's like, if you don't get to freak out my 72 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 4: face right now, especially if you asking me a stupid question. 73 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 5: Well, hey, what did you think about when this happened? 74 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: Oh? 75 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, what the hell do you think I was 76 00:03:58,400 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 5: thinking about? 77 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: That? Media just trying to do their job here, dick, 78 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: You know, just ask better damn questions. How about that? 79 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 4: Because either you're asking a dumb question or you're asking 80 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 4: a dumb question to alicited response that you can I 81 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 4: guess and not. At that time there was no Twitter. 82 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 4: But in this day and age where someone can actually 83 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 4: go viral. 84 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: The media is feeling a loon, intimidated by the the 85 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: what you were looking at them? 86 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: Like, get out of my face, looking at you. 87 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: He's looking right at me while he's talking about this 88 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: dumb questions. 89 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I felt I got I gotta fall back 90 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 4: because when I was in that mold give me that description, 91 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 4: I was right there and I a visualized the media 92 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 4: person who asked me that dumb question. 93 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 5: They're still in this media market. 94 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. 95 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 4: I don't mean to put that on you, Ryan, but 96 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 4: I got transported back in time for just a second. 97 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, I kind of packed up because 98 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: I gotta woo saw for a second. 99 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 4: Hold on fellas, got you guys, keep talking. 100 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: I gotta be calmed down for a second. Take a beat. 101 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: Yes, you know, with the way the game played out, 102 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: if Sidham doesn't have that fumbledo, did the Patriots even 103 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: score a touchdown? 104 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: Dave? 105 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a it's a what if on top 106 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: of what ifs. But I'm just saying hard to. 107 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, just the way it played out, I don't know. 108 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 3: Hard for me to well, it's impossible to know, but 109 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 3: hard for me to make a case that they would 110 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 3: right me too. I mean the drive in in the 111 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 3: third quarter, they at one point had six or seven 112 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: consecutive runs, and they were just going to be very 113 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 3: very content with banging out three I think, using time 114 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 3: in the clock and not allowing the Broncos pass rush, 115 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: which was pretty good even though Drake May didn't throw 116 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 3: it that much, still was pretty good. They I think, 117 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: and we talked about it leading up to the game. 118 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 3: Mike Vrabel didn't want to let Benito and Cooper and 119 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 3: company wreck that game plan and basically win the game 120 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 3: for the Broncos, And so it turned into a Remandre 121 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 3: Stevenson Drake May running game. And then you have a 122 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 3: couple of the turnovers by the Broncos and the fourth 123 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 3: and one call, and it really it comes down to that. 124 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: It comes down it comes down. 125 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 3: To a costly turnover by Stidham trying to get rid 126 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 3: of the football. But I think if Tyler Badet, I 127 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 3: think again, I want to make sure because I think 128 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: it's unfair for media guys to act like they know 129 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 3: what the play is. I'm I've looked at that play 130 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: ten times. My best football guess is that Bidet is 131 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 3: supposed to get into the flat on the left side 132 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 3: and probably sift through the line of scrimmage. Had he 133 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 3: done that, there's nobody there. And I think one other 134 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 3: play you know that we should mention was the It 135 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 3: was after the Broncos had a seven to nothing lead. 136 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 3: They had three receivers to the left Mims, two receivers 137 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 3: to the right. One came in motion. They run a 138 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 3: quick tunnel screen to Mems. If Steady gets nineteen the 139 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 3: ball on that play, he might still be he'd be 140 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: north of Laramie right now, he'd still be running. 141 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's when they look. 142 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: At that play and Jared Didham's hard on himself. But 143 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: when when everybody individually looks at that play, they're gonna 144 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 3: be screaming at their computer. I mean they're gonna because 145 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 3: that that's not only a completion and a big game. 146 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 3: I would think the way the Patriots played that thing, 147 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: Mems is gonna score. Now it's fourteen to nothing in 148 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: the first quarter. 149 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: Once the game, when you go back in watch all 150 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: of these plays, I remember that play and you called 151 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: it to you look at. 152 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 4: Him and say, okay, well here was some plays that 153 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 4: we ran in practice that were successful and they should 154 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 4: have worked, but the execution wasn't there. And on that 155 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 4: that fall and you say, Talibra Day was the running back. 156 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 4: He kind of bumped into garre Boles and the pass 157 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 4: rusher coming uh in that off that left. 158 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 3: Side, he tries to go behind the balls left his 159 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 3: instead of going he's got you've got to go maybe 160 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: between miners and bulls I mean to sift. We used 161 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 3: to call it sift when a running back has to sift. 162 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: I mean literally, you're the first. We used to call 163 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: it first point of access, and we still call it 164 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 3: first point of access. You line up on one side, 165 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 3: your first point of access to the other side is 166 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 3: meaning that's an A, B or C gap. It's the 167 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 3: path of least resistance. But you're not gonna You're not 168 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 3: gonna run around a tackle who is past setting. 169 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: They're inviting the defensive line. They wanted the. 170 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 4: Rue and for me, I've seen that type of play 171 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 4: executed brilliantly in the pass but it was Darren Spros 172 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 4: in that row, smaller guy who knew how Like Dave said, 173 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 4: he's sifting through, he find the crees and then he 174 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 4: because they lose you in the backfield because they see 175 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 4: all those large bodies, but you don't run into another 176 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 4: body that has the same color jersey that you have on. 177 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: You just just can't do it. 178 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: So just for a second, I will say, as a 179 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: media member, there is an interesting balance. We've talked about 180 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: this for years, an interesting balance when you go approach 181 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: players immediately after a game, like from media side perspective, 182 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: you can get some of your best quotes because it's 183 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: very raw, it's very emotional win or loss. But on 184 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: the other side of that, there's no cool downtime for players, 185 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: and that's a little unfair because they might say something 186 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: that they may otherwise not want. 187 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: To, and so that's an interesting balance. 188 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: I think that we've always had that dance with the 189 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: media and the players because we as media want that 190 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: visceral emotional in the moments because it's so exciting. 191 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: Ryan they call that today clickbait, that's what they call that. 192 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: Is that clickbait? 193 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: To you, Dave, do you view that as a clickbait 194 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: moment that media are trying to get visceral rea for players? 195 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 3: I think that there are really good media members in 196 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: this town that understand the dynamic of dealing with players 197 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 3: at difficult times and coaches. I think there are a 198 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 3: number of really talented media members and frankly, there are 199 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 3: some that don't get enough credit for whatever the reason. 200 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 3: I do think you have a small handful that attempt 201 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 3: to elicit a response, mainly so that they can draw 202 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 3: attention to themselves, and that would just not be stylistically, 203 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 3: that would not be how I would approach it. 204 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: How's that for? 205 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 3: You know, again, I start, I started diplomatic. I started 206 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,599 Speaker 3: by saying, there are some and I believe this. I 207 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 3: think I think this town is well covered. I think 208 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 3: you have some really smart and we're talking about football here, 209 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: really smart football media members that underst in the game 210 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 3: and ask good questions. To me, the reason to ask 211 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 3: a question of a coach or a player is to 212 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 3: get the response so that you can bring that response 213 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 3: to the fans, because fans don't get an opportunity too 214 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 3: often to ask the coach. 215 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: Or the player. 216 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 3: It's not so that you can elicit some sort of 217 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 3: response and then make it a story about how the 218 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 3: coach or the player was an a hole in terms 219 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 3: of how he reacted to your. 220 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: Dumb ass question, and other other than that, I'm I'm good. 221 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 4: So that reporter would be in essence or pooter hole, 222 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 4: right know that that reporter? 223 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did say, you know, uh, just stop trying 224 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: to draw. 225 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 3: I just say, stop trying to draw attention to yourself 226 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 3: by asking a question that you know is on the border, 227 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 3: might even be out of line. But cameras are rolling 228 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 3: tape wherecorders are rolling, and nowadays we have so many 229 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: platforms to play. You know, it's just I just I 230 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 3: don't like people. I just don't like people to do that. 231 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 3: I'm not to be either. You don't have a lot 232 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 3: in town here, but you have. You have a handful 233 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 3: of minus a couple maybe two or three fingers. 234 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you still have a couple of guys who 235 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 4: want to be that shot shot type of person to 236 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 4: say I'm going to ask a question that it's gonna 237 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 4: be really memorable, and that's what I just said, yes, 238 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 4: kind of intervalate people. 239 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 6: So I don't. 240 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 2: I don't. 241 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 4: I don't like those guys. And for me, when I 242 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 4: was a player, well, let you know too, you. 243 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 2: Still stared me down. 244 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 4: I'm staring you down because I looked at Dave and 245 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 4: I mean he looked at you because you're to my right. 246 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 4: I just want to make sure when i'm communicating my 247 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 4: words get to you. Like to bounce involved in sesame street, 248 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 4: I just want to make sure they get to you. 249 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: I'm not going to defend any of that perspective from 250 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: media members. 251 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: That's not, ever, how I've covered. 252 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 5: Your fellow members of the media. 253 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: I'm not going to defend that because it's not how 254 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: I approach the job like my I always view us 255 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: as conduit. I do this as as a way for 256 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: the fans to connect with the players. 257 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 2: And connect with their favorite team. 258 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 5: So I appreciate that. 259 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah so, but but I but I also understand 260 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: when you're trying to find your way through this medium, 261 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: there's there's a sense of maybe pressure you feel, whether 262 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: external or otherwise, to make your mark. 263 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: And I think that doing it at the expense. 264 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 3: Of where's the pressure come from? 265 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: Vosses sometimes. 266 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: Well, no, just that hey, we need to get you 267 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: need to be more memorable kind of stuff. 268 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 4: Well, then if you want to be more memorable, ask 269 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 4: some damn good questions. 270 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 2: Is that simple? That doesn't always get the big reactions. 271 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 4: See, that's that's the problem. I did the reaction part. 272 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 4: You want to get trying to get a reaction, No, 273 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 4: ask your question, move along if you have a follow up. 274 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 4: Sometimes you may ask two questions at once, which never 275 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 4: goes well for a player. 276 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: No doubt. 277 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: Man, ass Joseph will not be the head coach of 278 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals. 279 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: Looks like they pivoted. Yeah, I look at it a 280 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: little bit differently, Okay, I think there was there was 281 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 2: another to use your term pivot. Then Okay, is he 282 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: back here next year? Do you think that? I don't. 283 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: I don't have any knowledge. I don't have any knowledge 284 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: of I would think. 285 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 3: I think if Ans decides not to either take a 286 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 3: head coaching job, or maybe one wasn't offered, or maybe 287 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: he decided a particular job was not the right one 288 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 3: for him, which I think happened, then I think the 289 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 3: Broncos would be very hard pressed not to bring him back. 290 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: That would be my personal opinion. 291 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: He had a spectacular season. He might even win Assistant 292 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: Coach of the Year. I mean, honestly, he won it 293 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: for the Pro Football Writers. It wouldn't surprise me if 294 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: we're talking to NFL honors that he wins it for 295 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: the AP. 296 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: He's spectacular, The defense is playing great. 297 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: I mean we were talking about in the first hour 298 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: about hey, it's never going to be the same. 299 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 2: Every year you try to talk about building on it. 300 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: I like what Ben Johnson said the other day in 301 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: a press conference, because he said, you know, we started zero. 302 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: Is like anybody saying that we're building on something, you're not. 303 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: You started zero. Seawan has said similar things. He's like, hey, 304 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: every year we started zero. 305 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: I kind of agree with that. 306 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 3: I think you know it's I mean, every year is 307 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 3: a new year. You got to deal with all the 308 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: things that come with a year in the NFL, injuries 309 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 3: and great play and poor play, and great calls and 310 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 3: not so great calls, and got to find a way 311 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 3: to get through it and then position yourself. 312 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 2: That's what makes this year. This year will be hard 313 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 2: to put to rest for. 314 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 3: The Broncos organization because you won so many games by 315 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: hanging in there, making plays down the stretch. You get 316 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: home field advantage, you win, you beat the Bills, You 317 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 3: got to find a way to beat the Patriots, and 318 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 3: I know your quarterback was injured and that was a big, 319 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 3: big deal, but still that game was right there yesterday 320 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 3: to win. 321 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: Will we go back and look at this year from now? Okay, 322 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: and maybe some people are still talking about the fourth 323 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: and one, I'm not sure. I sort of doubt that. 324 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: Are you going to think about the weather. You're going 325 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: to think about Jared Sidham, especially in the second half 326 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: when the weather got in there. Are you going to 327 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: say Bonix wins that game? Like those are going to 328 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: be the things that you say five years from now, 329 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: we're thinking about the opportunity. You lost ten to seven 330 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: at home, what do you think you'll be resting on. 331 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 3: I would challenge your your assertion that people will dismiss 332 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 3: the fourth. 333 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 2: And one call. 334 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 3: Okay, I think the fourth on one call will live 335 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 3: forever in the minds of Broncos fans. Right, not not 336 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 3: to say that they don't they don't think Sean's a 337 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 3: good coach, not to say that you're not pulling for 338 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 3: the Broncos, but that that was a pivotal part of 339 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 3: the game that I don't think will ever go away. 340 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 3: I do think that people will say, yeah, well Bo, 341 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 3: had Bowl played, the Broncos would have won. I think 342 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 3: had Bo played, their chances would have been better, simply 343 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 3: because as an athlete, he's going to be able to 344 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 3: escape some of the some of the issues that maybe 345 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 3: jaredt could not have. And so yeah, I mean I 346 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 3: think it both played. I think you could make the 347 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 3: case and I would stand by that that the Broncos 348 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 3: would be able to win. And I say that not 349 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 3: pointing the finger directly at Jared Stidham as the reason 350 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 3: the Broncos loss. 351 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 2: I don't see this comes out to me as a 352 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 2: butt game. 353 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 4: Uh. 354 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 5: The defense play well. 355 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 2: The again, what's going on? 356 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 6: Man? 357 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 4: But dut oh oh, okay, come on hanging that Ryan, 358 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 4: get your mind out of the gut. 359 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: I said, I just want to make sure we moved 360 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: on from that. 361 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 2: This is going to be a butt game. 362 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 4: The defense played well, but this happened, right, there were 363 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 4: issues with the snow But Will LUNs, mister field goal, 364 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 4: that's the type of butt game. And now it's you're 365 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 4: making excuses. 366 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 5: Right the game turned out the way that he did. 367 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 5: Did certain things happen in that game? 368 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 4: Yes, we would have won the game if bow Knicks 369 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 4: would have played, but he didn't, right, So no, you 370 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 4: can only deal with the cars that you're dealt. The 371 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 4: Broncos had ample opportunity to win that game because the Patriots. 372 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 5: Couldn't really move the ball. You scored seven points. 373 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 4: And that that that first those first couple of drives 374 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 4: were outstanding. 375 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 5: So you look at the. 376 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 4: First the first four drives of the Broncos, I think 377 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 4: they completed. They were forty percent on third down. They 378 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 4: had maybe one hundred and twenty five yards. After that, 379 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 4: on the next eight drives it went downhill, they were 380 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 4: twenty percent on third down. 381 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 2: Why do you think that is because I'm. 382 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 4: Gonna say play calling and execution, I'm gonna tie both 383 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 4: of those together. Because you may work on something and 384 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 4: they know this and practice you see it, it looks great, right, 385 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 4: you say. 386 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: Well we get this. 387 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 5: The right defense is gonna work against it. 388 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: But now it's are the. 389 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 4: Guys on the field actually executed If the play that 390 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 4: you just broke down about the little kind of tunnel 391 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 4: screen to you know, Marvin Mamms, that. 392 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 5: Was a home run play and I think the Broncos. 393 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 4: Ended up scoring on that play anyway, to Marvin and Mamms. 394 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 5: But execution, that's a problem. 395 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 4: And then when something is not working, can you and 396 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 4: I think they say this is a word that you love. 397 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 4: Can you pivot? Can you pivot and go to something else? 398 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 4: Because all I heard after the Chargers game it was like, 399 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 4: well the team played a vanilla offense because there were 400 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 4: more things that they were going to run later on 401 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 4: and I'm like, okay, well sign me up for it. 402 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 4: And the ideas like once we got to this point, 403 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 4: we were going to see all those creative things. I 404 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 4: know bo Nicks wasn't in there, but you still have 405 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 4: Jeffstin who's been in his office for three years, and 406 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 4: what we were told that, Hey, listen, he is a 407 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 4: competent quarterback. Not worried about him, worried about everyone else. 408 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 4: So let's go out there and see some of those 409 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 4: creative plays to give him an. 410 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: Opportunity to execute. 411 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 4: Because those first couple of drives, man, the stadium was rocking. 412 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 4: You could see the level of confidence building and starting 413 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 4: to swell, and the jeffs cinem would be like, you 414 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 4: know what, I got this. But then all of a 415 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 4: sudden things changed because you look at the remaining three quarters, 416 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 4: no points at all. 417 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, daniell Lowski tweet this South this morning. Dave Denver 418 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: gained fifty six yards across his last eight drives. 419 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 2: They didn't have a score in their last ten drives. 420 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: It's an interesting moment, right, the fourth and one to 421 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: your point, And you're right. People texted in and said, 422 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: that's all people are talking about in my work. You 423 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: turn on the radio, you turn on TV, they're still 424 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: talking about the fourth and one. You're right, maybe that 425 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: is going to be the lasting memory for a lot 426 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: of Broncos fans. The one thing that I keep thinking 427 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: about in terms of the point in the game. So 428 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: nine eight left in the second quarter, right, so relatively 429 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: still early, I guess by standards, However, you want to 430 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: look at it. If you had have known at that 431 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: point you're Sean Payton and you're saying, this is our 432 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: last truly great opportunity to score here, do you think 433 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: that impacts the way he calls that play? 434 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 2: Well, of course, well let's think about what you just asked. 435 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: But does it impact it to be more to be aggressive, 436 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: to stay aggressive? 437 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 3: Or the question me was if you if Sean would 438 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 3: have known that this will be the last great opportunity 439 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 3: to score, does it impact the call? Well, hell, yes, 440 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 3: I mean you're going to go for it then? But 441 00:21:55,480 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 3: what what would have what would have given him the 442 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 3: impression based on what he had seen in the first 443 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 3: quarter in a little bit, that that was going to 444 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 3: be the last great opportunity to score very good point, 445 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? 446 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 2: So yes to your to your question, it's like, yes, 447 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: it does. 448 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 3: Yes, if I knew, If I knew that was it, 449 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 3: then hell I'm going forward and fourth and one too. 450 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 3: If you said, you know what, the last ten drives, 451 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 3: you're gonna have zero points? Okay, then you know what, 452 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 3: let's go forward here in fourth and one. Well, sure, absolutely, 453 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 3: but life doesn't work that way. 454 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 4: It's about Yeah, it's about living and being in the 455 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 4: moment and making the right decision and hoping that whatever 456 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 4: you do it is not something that jeopardized the overall 457 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 4: goal of the team and you lose a game. 458 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 2: Well, in the moment, he felt like the momentum was 459 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 2: all on their side. 460 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 4: Okay, but then you you you go with what you 461 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 4: thought was going to work at that time. 462 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 5: You go, you go with it. But for me and 463 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 5: I think this is. 464 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 4: The reason why everyone is around the water cooler discussing this, 465 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,719 Speaker 4: because that in the back of everyone's mind kind of 466 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 4: tilted the game in a way. 467 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 2: Because someone asked me. 468 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 5: Well, do you think coach Peyton knew about the weather? 469 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like all that question a lot last night. 470 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 5: Damn the weather. 471 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 2: For sure, she did. 472 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 5: What's in front of you right now, what's in front 473 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 5: of you right now. 474 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 4: You make the decisions right in front of you, right now, 475 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 4: and you hope to God that you made the right ones. 476 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 3: But to the point of the weather, absolutely, I'm I'm 477 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 3: not sure of anything I witnessed yesterday, but I would 478 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 3: say I'm ninety nine point nine percent certain. 479 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 2: Sean Payton is one of the most prepared coaches I've 480 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 2: ever been around. He and Mike Shanahan. 481 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 3: Sean talks about the weather on Sunday when I talked 482 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 3: to him on Friday, in terms of especially the weather, 483 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 3: in terms of what kind of cleats were going to wear, 484 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 3: what are the wind conditions going to be Guaranteed he 485 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 3: had the information that there was now maybe he didn't 486 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 3: know how bad it was going to be, but there 487 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 3: the snow was going to get here about noon. Let's 488 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 3: just say that the Let's just say that the weather 489 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 3: doesn't come in. Based on what I think, this is 490 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 3: a fair question, based on what you saw from your 491 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 3: defense in the first twenty minutes or twenty one minutes 492 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 3: of play. If you say, based on that you have 493 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 3: a chance to have a ten point lead, I'm not 494 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 3: sure based on what I saw the first twenty one 495 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 3: ounce of the game that I would have concluded that 496 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 3: the Patriots would ever score a point. Your defense, they 497 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 3: can't really run it, he can't throw it, they can't 498 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 3: handle the pressure. I think I would have bet more 499 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 3: on the fact I'll bet the defense will get a 500 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 3: turnover or two. Then I would have bet that the 501 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 3: Patriots would or more than ten. Now you can agree 502 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 3: or disagree. If you agree, then you kick the field 503 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 3: goal and you go up by ten. And that's what 504 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 3: I would have done. It's not second guessing. I thought 505 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 3: it just then. Doesn't mean anything other than that's what 506 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 3: went through my mind. And again I always say, I'm 507 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 3: a high school coach. He's making nineteen million dollars coach 508 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 3: in the Broncos. He's made plenty of good calls this year. 509 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 3: He doesn't need me to sit there and say, huh, 510 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 3: why'd you do that. 511 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 2: I thought that at the. 512 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 3: Time, just based on me calling the game and watching 513 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 3: the game. The Denver defense is dominating this game, and 514 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 3: I'm not sure this young cat on the other side, 515 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 3: as good a year as he's had, I'm not sure 516 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 3: he's going to be able to deal with the ferocity 517 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 3: of this defense. So I'm taking ten and saying, let 518 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 3: me show show me what you can do. 519 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 4: How many times this season we've seen the Broncos in 520 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 4: this situation and we all sat around like okay with 521 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 4: the Broncos and kind of setting them up. He comes 522 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 4: that night Shamulain moment where the Broncos in the fourth quarter. Oh, 523 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 4: they're going to turn it off. Something's going to happen, 524 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 4: and then boom, there it is another fourth quarter victory. 525 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 2: But it didn't happen. 526 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 4: Right, And I'll go back to what I've said all 527 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 4: season long, and I'll say true to this once again. 528 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 4: What Dave just described is what we thought coming into 529 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 4: the last four games of the season, saying the Broncos are. 530 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 5: Playing with house money. 531 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,719 Speaker 4: Why, whether it was Jeristinam or whether it was Bo 532 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,239 Speaker 4: Nick's under center, it was because band shows have been 533 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 4: the defense. How well that they performed, and I knew 534 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 4: personally that the week before five turnoffs against Buffalo, the 535 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 4: likelihood of that happening having a repeat. 536 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 5: Performance like that was going to. 537 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 2: Be slimming or none. 538 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 4: And you could see the Broncos players tugging and pulling 539 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 4: and trying to punch the ball out. 540 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 5: But you have to figure that. Yeah, Drake May was told, Hey, in. 541 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 4: That Houston game, dude, you put the ball on the 542 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 4: ground a lot. So what we're gonna do is we're 543 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 4: gonna run to fick the ball. And that set up 544 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 4: that very last play. Even though they were not they 545 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 4: being the Patriots, they didn't run off get a run 546 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 4: more than thirty yards. 547 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 5: The only one was Drake May when he scrambled. 548 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 4: So they were setting it up, and how great was 549 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 4: it for Josh mcdames in that moment where they needed 550 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 4: a first down and the Broncos defense. 551 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 5: Were all clawged in. 552 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 4: They're expecting an inside run like they've seen all day. 553 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 4: There's a blue leg outside and Drake May gets the 554 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 4: first down. 555 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 2: The reportedly he called his own shot. 556 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 1: Oh really yeah, Reportedly he set after the game to 557 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: one of the reporters, No way, that wasn't the call. 558 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: That he just kept the ball. 559 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 4: If if that is true, in fact true, second year 560 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 4: quarterback in the game of that magnitude where you get 561 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 4: the first down, you win, you lose. 562 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 5: The Broncos get the ball and they kick the field goal. 563 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 4: Tie this thing up. We go into overtime. He calls 564 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 4: his own shot. 565 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: That's third down, their third down, third and seven, So 566 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 2: if he doesn't get it, they punt, but the Broncos 567 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 2: have to go eighty. 568 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 4: But that sid was a big play for If what 569 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 4: Ryan is saying a shrew to call your own play 570 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 4: and to get out on that boot leg, hell, that's 571 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 4: bloody brilliant by him. 572 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 2: You think yes, I think, okay. 573 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 5: Yes, you don't think so beat it as his waistin. 574 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 3: He's got good legs. I mean, what's the worst thing 575 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 3: that can happen. I don't think he called it. I 576 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 3: just don't think he just didn't give the ball up. 577 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 3: And you could always come to the sideline and say, 578 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 3: you know what. I didn't feel like I had complete 579 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 3: control of the ball. I didn't want to give it 580 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 3: to Remandre. No, I don't think it was that big 581 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 3: a deal. Well, I'll tell you what. 582 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 4: If it's what Ryan said, there's no way that I 583 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 4: can prove that. 584 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 2: Your little English had to squeeze in your head. 585 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 4: No, not even if that means I have to call 586 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 4: someone in New England and ask that question. If the 587 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 4: young guy called that play in that moment, right to me, 588 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 4: I get you. 589 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 6: Got to give him credit for that, give him credit 590 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 6: for Jack. I'm gonna give him credit for it. No, 591 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 6: were it was the driver and driving, miss Daisy. Did 592 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 6: he wear a hat like that? Morgan Freeman? No, Morgan 593 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 6: Freeman wasn't the driver? Was he was he the driver? 594 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 6: Did Morgan Freeman wear a hat like that? 595 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 5: You sure it did? 596 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 2: I like your hat. 597 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 5: I feel as though there's some more, some more you 598 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 5: want to. 599 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 3: Say, No, that was a period, Okay, I'm just I'm 600 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 3: just trying to am I am I driving a day 601 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 3: with this. They what that that outfits that I like 602 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 3: the outfit? Yes, right, yes, thank you. 603 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 2: You're welcome. 604 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: You did hear one analysts talking about that specific play saying, 605 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: now he he and Josh McDaniels might have understood that 606 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: that was what they were going to do, but they 607 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: called it different plays and it was going to be 608 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: a handoff Charle mindre going to the right and because 609 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: what you want is you want the offensive line, you 610 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: want everybody blocking down and moving rights. Yes, and so 611 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: then that that tells the defense this is where we're going, 612 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: of course, which opens things up, of course. 613 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 2: So I think that was Chris Sims that broke it down. 614 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 3: I think it was an easy I mean, God almighty, 615 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 3: you know, I think that was that. I mean, Chris, 616 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 3: I mean, we're breaking down a quarterback scamper on third down. 617 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 4: Well, that's not undermined the play because that was the 618 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 4: hell of a play ball. 619 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 2: It wasn't that big a play. It wasn't that big 620 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: a play. 621 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 3: If he doesn't get hey, if you just said they're 622 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 3: going forward on fourth and two, and then he does that. 623 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,719 Speaker 3: I tipped my hat, even though I ate like yours, 624 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 3: I tipped my hat, and I say that was a big, 625 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 3: big play. It's third down and whatever six So if 626 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 3: he doesn't get it. If he doesn't get it, they 627 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 3: line up and pump the ball. How much time in 628 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 3: the game and the Broncos, I believe her out of timeouts? 629 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 3: How much time in the game when Drake May pulled 630 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 3: this unbelievable play to keep the ball. 631 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 2: And run around the end? Fifty seven seven the clock's running. 632 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 3: Let's just say that Jonah Ellis stays home and keeps 633 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,719 Speaker 3: him in the pocket. You said if you started off 634 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 3: with it, Well, I'm saying if he'd I'm trying to 635 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 3: illustrate to you why it's not a big deal if 636 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 3: he doesn't make it, meaning Jonah Ellis stayed home and 637 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 3: tackled it. The Broncos are out of timeouts. The clock 638 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 3: then is set for fourth down. It runs down to 639 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 3: a little more than a minute. They take time out. 640 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 3: In New England, they punk. 641 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 2: The ball down. Where was where was the line of scrimmage? 642 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 2: Like the forty. 643 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 3: They were at the New England forty New England forty yep. Okay, 644 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 3: so they punped the ball down. Let's say to the 645 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 3: Denver Let's say it's not even a great punt. Let's 646 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 3: say to the Denver twenty five to thirty with fifty 647 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 3: seconds to go, no timeouts. I mean, Denver had shown 648 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 3: zero ability in the second half. They had one first 649 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 3: down in the second half. Would you bet that hat 650 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 3: you're wearing that the Broncos on that last drive from 651 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 3: the thirty would be able to get it down. Let's 652 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 3: had already missed a forty five yard The conditions were awful, 653 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 3: So I say you got to get it probably to 654 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 3: the twenty. 655 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: What makes the thirty seven yarder? 656 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 3: Would you bet that hat that the Broncos from their 657 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 3: own thirty, with fifty five seconds to go and no 658 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 3: timeouts could move to the Patriot twenty? 659 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 2: Yes? I would you a damn liar. 660 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 5: You are lying through your stoy. 661 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: Okay, your eyeballs are seeping out lines. Explain you asked 662 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 2: me a question. I don't know you, but I know 663 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 2: when you're like you do not believe that in your 664 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 2: heart of hearts. 665 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,719 Speaker 4: You asked me what I bet this hat? Well, then 666 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 4: you don't like the hat because I got another one. 667 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 2: See, that's what I'm saying. 668 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 3: You know, dam good, Well that wasn't going to happen, 669 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 3: So I mean, cut New England. 670 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 2: I'm all for saying. 671 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,239 Speaker 3: I'm not for you know, hey, that was a good 672 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 3: play for that, but I ain't gonna I ain't gonna. 673 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 2: Erect a statue for him. That's not what we're saying. 674 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know about Ryan. I don't speak for him, 675 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 4: but I'm just saying that was a quality play at that. 676 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 3: You say it's a quality play, then I'll say, Okay, 677 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 3: I agree, it's a quality play. 678 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 4: And I said, if it's it's an even better play. 679 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 4: If what Ryan said is true. What the young fella said, 680 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 4: well he knowed something, so. 681 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 5: He called his own shot, makes it even better. 682 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 2: Okay, that's what I'm saying. All right, Yes, okay, it 683 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 2: makes it better. 684 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: I don't think Listen, in all fairness, if the Broncos 685 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: get the ball back in the thirty unless Bonick suddenly. 686 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 2: Had a they had one. 687 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 3: Hello, hello, they had one first down in the entire 688 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 3: second half. 689 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 5: You can wish, Dave, you can wish and hope. 690 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 4: You know, there's always an opportunity who sing that song 691 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 4: wish and hope, wishing and hoping and praying, And I 692 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 4: have no idea I notice. But yes, I don't know 693 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 4: who is that. That's a that's an old as it 694 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 4: seemed like it's from the seventies or something. Yes, maybe 695 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 4: maybe an earlier the two Clerk. 696 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 3: No, Dusty Springfield, I don't know. 697 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 2: Yes, Dusty Springfield. That's a good pull. 698 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 3: Now, that's a better pull than anointing Drake May for 699 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 3: the great play he made on third and sevens, Dusty Springfield, even. 700 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 2: For your midic. A lot of shots from guys that 701 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 2: look like you, but I can still remember. But Ryan 702 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 2: had to help you out though. But Brian didn't do anything. 703 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 3: He did he told you today, he said, Dusty Springfield, No, 704 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 3: you didn't. You need to check your ears because that 705 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 3: had done squeezed stuff through him. 706 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 2: You can't hear Jack