1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: The Jesse Kelly Show, another hour of The Jesse Kelly 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: Show on a Magnificent Friday, and asked Doctor Jesse Friday, 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: somebody's mad at Libertarians. We'll talk about that the midterm elections. 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: Can we mitigate possible losses? Doj indictments for fraud? These 5 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: medal of honor guys? Why are they always going back 6 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: for more? 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: Ammo? 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: All that and more coming up in the second hour 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: of the world famous Jesse Kelly Show. Let's begain here 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: because rand Paul was in the news a bit this 11 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: week because of his back and forth with Mark Wayne Mullan. 12 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: Mark Waynemullen, you know, United States senator from Oklahoma. Trump 13 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: wants him to be the new head of DHS. But 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: Mark Wayne Mullin had previously trashed ran Paul to the 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: media after ran Paul got his ribs broken by a 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: dirty COMI Ran Paul clearly didn't take too kai lead 17 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: to that public statement, and it didn't go that well. 18 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: Right. 19 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 3: You told the media that I was a freaking snake 20 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 3: and that you completely understood why I had been assaulted, 21 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 3: and I was shocked that you would justify and celebrate 22 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 3: this violent assault that caused me so much pain in 23 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 3: my family, so much pain. I just wonder if someone 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 3: who applauds violence against their political opponents is the right 25 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: person to lead an agency that has struggled to accept 26 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: limits to the proper use of force. You went on 27 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 3: to brag that you'd already told me to my face 28 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 3: that you completely understood and approved of the assault. 29 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: Well that's a lie. You got a chance today. 30 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 3: You can either continue to lie or you can. 31 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: Correct the record. 32 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 3: You have never had the courage to look me in 33 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 3: the eye and tell me that the assault was justified, 34 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: So today you'll have your chance. 35 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: Well, here's the current situation. Mark Wayne Mullen is Trump's 36 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: picked ahead DHS. People want whoever Trump wants to head 37 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: DHS because people like you and me, they want mass 38 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: deportations in border security, So we want someone to head 39 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: DHS to get these people out of the country. Rand 40 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: Paul crucifies him publicly at the hearing. A Ram Paul 41 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: is a Republican and so well, this email says Jesse, 42 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: I would probably consider myself a libertarian in the sense 43 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: that I want all government to be as small as possible. 44 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: With that said, every single libertarian elected in Congress is 45 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: absolutely insufferable and just ends up siding with the left 46 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: when we need the most. Why what is wrong with 47 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: libertarianism that leads to this? Says, I can say his name. 48 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: His name is Chris. All right, So I'm gonna I'll 49 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: come back to the libertarianism part of this in a moment, 50 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: but I want to touch on something else that we've 51 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: talked about before. 52 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 2: But it is really, really really. 53 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: Important to remember, right, And some of this is going 54 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: to be hard to hear and will probably make you mad, 55 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: too bad, so sad, don't care if it does. 56 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: All right. 57 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: We are tribal, you know that We've talked about it. 58 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: Human beings are all tribal. We will seek out a group, 59 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 1: it's human nature. We do it for protection, for prosperity, 60 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: for a variety of reasons. Maybe it's your neighborhood, maybe 61 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: it's your church, Maybe it's your political party, maybe that 62 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: doesn't matter, doesn't matter what it is, you will seek 63 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: out a tribe. Tried and true loaners who don't really 64 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: want to be part of any group very rare. You 65 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: know how antisocial Chris accuses me of being. And you 66 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: know what a loaner, I really genuinely am. I just 67 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: would prefer to be home with a book or a documentary. 68 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: That's who I am. I'm tribal too. I love you. 69 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: I like having people who share my values, people I 70 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: can joke with and laugh with, and and people I 71 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: feel like who are behind me. As a loaner, I 72 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: am the loaner. I'm tribal too. We're all tribal. So 73 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: here's what we forget though, when we cast someone out 74 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: of our tribe, or we make somebody feel like an 75 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: outcast in our tribe. What we want is let's let's 76 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: let's say we're an Indian tribe. We're a little Comanche tribe. Right, 77 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: We're a Comanche tribe, and there's some dude who ticks 78 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: us off for some reason. 79 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 2: He's making us angry. 80 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: We don't like him. What do we want to do. 81 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: We want to cast him out. Understandably, we don't want 82 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: this guy. He's causing trouble for the tribe. We want 83 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: to cast him out. 84 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: Now. 85 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: Part of the idea of casting him out of the 86 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: tribe is punishment for him. That it's not just to 87 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: save the tribe. We want him to hurt because of 88 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: what he did to us. I want him to be alone, 89 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: you are out of the tribe, get lost, you're on 90 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: your own. It's a punishment thing, right, get out. But 91 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: what happens inevitably is he's gonna find a new tribe, 92 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: and maybe that tribe will be a tribe that you. 93 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 4: Were at war with. 94 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: And then we're looking and we're all, well, wait a minute, No, 95 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: you're supposed to No, you're supposed to be an outcast. 96 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: You're not supposed to find a new tribe. But when 97 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: you cast someone out of your tribe and treat them 98 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: as the enemy, as an outcast, don't be surprised when 99 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: they up acting like the enemy. You want an example, 100 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: speaking of all this libertarian stuff, told you I was 101 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: gonna make you mad, And I'm not even taking sides 102 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: in this. I'm really genuinely not don't know either of them. 103 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: Donald Trump and Thomas Massey. Thomas Massey's one of these 104 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: libertarian types from Kentucky. Thomas Massey's always opposed big spending bills. 105 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: He's a big spending hawk, that's his thing. Sometimes you 106 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: love that, sometimes you hate it. Thomas Massey came out 107 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: publicly and loudly opposed Trump's big beautiful bill, that bill 108 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: they went through that funded DHS and all kinds of stuff. 109 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: Most people wanted it because they wanted deportations. But admittedly 110 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: there was all kinds of bad crap in there, all 111 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: kinds of bad crap in there. Trump was scrambling to 112 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: cobble together every vote. Also understandable that had his agenda 113 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: in there. Thomas Massey came out and said, nah, I'm 114 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: gonna no. 115 00:06:55,160 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: I don't like it. How did Trump handle it well? 116 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: Donald Trump went. 117 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: So far as to insult Thomas Massey's new wife. Thomas 118 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: Massey's wife died, Thomas Massey remarried. Trump went to social 119 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: media and took it so far that he mentioned Massey's 120 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: new wife. Now, Massey regularly sides with the communists. He 121 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: sided with the communists and the Epstein stuff, clearly trying 122 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: to make Trump look bad. And we're looking at Massy 123 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: and we're saying, look. 124 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: At this trader. He sided with the communists. What is 125 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: he doing? How could he side with the communists? 126 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: When you treat someone like an enemy, don't be surprised 127 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: when they act like the enemy. It could have been 128 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: handled differently on all sides. Again, I'm not taking sides, 129 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: not taking Massey's side or Trump's side. But I watched 130 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: it happen. I watched it happen because of course it 131 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: had to play out publicly. 132 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: These two grown men couldn't. 133 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: Just get together and have a diet coke and talk 134 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: about things or maybe even disagree. They had to go 135 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: on social media and start crucifying each other publicly. This 136 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: guy's idiot wife, Well you start doing that. Congratulations, You've 137 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: made an enemy for life. 138 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: Well he shouldn't. He should be a bit he should. Okay, 139 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: I understand that. I'm describing human nature for you. It's 140 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 2: human nature. 141 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: You cast somebody out of your tribe, he's gonna find 142 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: another one, and oftentimes he will find open, welcoming arms 143 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: in the tribe that is at war with you. This 144 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: is not me saying don't ever cast somebody out of 145 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: your tribe. That's not me saying that, So don't interpret 146 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: it that way. But it is me letting you know 147 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: you better anticipate that coming on the back end, you 148 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: want to cast someone out of your tribe. He's off 149 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: the softball team. We're tired of him showing up. Trump, 150 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: you show up next Saturday, and he's playing for the 151 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: opposite team. 152 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: Hitting home runs. Look at this trader. I can't believe 153 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 2: he's playing for them. 154 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: Human beings are going to find a tribe, all of 155 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: them will every time. It's human nature. So when you 156 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: cast someone out, you have to do so with the 157 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: full knowledge they're going to find a new tribe and 158 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: they're going to make war on you. Donald Trump disagreed 159 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: with Thomas Massey's stance on the Big Beautiful Bill. Totally 160 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: get it. Trump thought that was his chance for his agenda. 161 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: Totally get it. Trump, with the social media, promised Thomas 162 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: Massey he was going to primary him and then insulted 163 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: his wife. Now Thomas Massey spends most of his time 164 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: trying to torpeede Trump's administration. Sorry, that's what happens. You 165 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: took a public now it's public. Now we'll come back 166 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: to libertarians. Hang on, it is the Jesse Kellicho on 167 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: a wonderful Friday, and ask doctor Jesse Friday churning through 168 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: everything here. So for one final question on this, the 169 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: libertarians in general. I just addressed that the public enemy 170 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: things and things like that, but also libertarians are correct 171 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: about so many things, so many things, and by the way, 172 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: libertarians run the spectrum too. There are border hawk libertarians, right, 173 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: but in general, if we have to kind of just 174 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: judge people by one big group, libertarians are correct about 175 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: so many things. Now picture this sounds like I'm defending 176 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: them because I am. Now picture this, you are correct 177 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: on so many things, and yet you never really get 178 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: representation in the government ever. Nobody ever advocates for you, ever, 179 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: for the things you want. They tend to get snotty 180 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: about that. When I was running for Congress, I actually 181 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: this is an actual conversation I had when I was 182 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: running for Congress. Now, I have a lot of libertarian leanings. 183 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: I don't think I would describe myself as one, but 184 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: maybe in some. 185 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: Way I am. I don't know. 186 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: But when I was running for Congress, you always had 187 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: to go out and do these political events. And this 188 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: was the era of the Tea Party said there were 189 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: big right wing political events. You know, it was not 190 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: just everything was the Rotary Club or the county Fair. 191 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: You're out there with a lot of people who you 192 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: would consider to be like minded people. And I would 193 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 1: go out to these events and people would disagree with 194 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: me on this or that, and people would agree with 195 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: me on this or that. It was wonderful and we 196 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: talk and it was fine. But there was nobody on 197 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: the campaign Trill, including the communists, who treated me with 198 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: the disrespect and disdain that libertarians did sometimes, and it 199 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: took me back because I was so libertarian on some things. 200 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: I actually met with the local Libertarian party in Tucson, 201 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: the leaders at the local Libertarian Party, and they walked away, 202 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: blown away, and pressed, They're like, Okay, he wants to 203 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: completely eliminate like every federal department and things like that. 204 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 2: This is wonderful. 205 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: So I just naturally assumed there would be a good 206 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: alliance there. I mean, I'm a big time small government, 207 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: take a battle acte to the whole freaking thing. And 208 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: yet not all of them, by the way, oftentimes on 209 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: the campaign Tril, I was stunned by how just awful 210 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: and disrespectful and snotty and horrid they were horrid. Okay, 211 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: So I meet with my campaign consultant, one of the 212 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: because I was new to politics. I was just running 213 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: for office because I was mad. But he'd been one 214 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: of these guys's been around politics forever, and I said, 215 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 1: can you explcsed to me? I align with these people 216 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: on so many things, and yet they're just terrible to 217 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: me sometimes. And he said, well, they think they're right. 218 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: It really comes down to that. They're sure they're right, 219 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: They're sure you're evil, and it comes out of them. 220 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: If you saw some snot, those twenty two year old 221 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: with those big wire rimmed dirt glasses marching up to 222 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: you and Iron Paul short and a shirt and I 223 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: love Ron Paul marching up to you and Iron Paul 224 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: shirt at a tea party, you know you were about 225 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: to deal with the most ill mannered little snot you've 226 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: talked to in your entire life. It was everything I 227 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: could do not to punch his teeth right out of 228 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: his face every time what Chris Chris said were the 229 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: mean ones, ignorant or they just didn't know. Honestly know, 230 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: they were mostly quite intelligent and really had some some 231 00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: smart points. 232 00:13:59,000 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: That was the point. 233 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: They we could have sitting sat and had a wonderful 234 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: disagreement and possibly came to an agreement because they were 235 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: really smart oftentimes really really well read, and were just horrid. 236 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: You can't imagine it all right now. 237 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about this, wouldn't insurance that this 238 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: is an email Jesse wouldn't insurance against a midterm massacre 239 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: be to get the vote out. Trump won by getting 240 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: enough votes to overwhelm the cheaters. Can't we overwhelm the independence? 241 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 2: All right? So he wrote this. 242 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: In response to the polling we're seeing out there that 243 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: that's bad. 244 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: All the polling is consistent. So here's this. 245 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: Here's the status in case you haven't been listening. The 246 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: mag of faithful, the hardcore Trump people, the three time 247 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: Trump voter, they have not gone anywhere. Trump will never 248 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: lose them. That's probably you. I'm a three time Trump voter. 249 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: If he was up for election again tomorrow, I would 250 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: vote for him. He's not lost me. He's not going 251 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: to lose you. Okay, let's set that aside when talking 252 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: about you or me. But Trump is not president. Trump 253 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: won the presidency three times, not because of you or me. 254 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: We health, don't get me wrong. 255 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: Trump won the presidency three times because wishy washy blow 256 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: in the wind Independence voted for him over the Democrat 257 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: three times. Those people, the blow and the Wind people, 258 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: they're who we've lost. It's bad. How bad this best? 259 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? 260 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 4: What about independence? You'd think this forty one points below 261 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 4: water is bad? Take a look at Independence. It's even worse. 262 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 4: I mean, sixty points underwater when it comes to Trump 263 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 4: and the cost of living among Independence again a record low. 264 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 4: You go back to October of twenty twenty four, he 265 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 4: was winning on this issue over Kamala Harris by eleven points. 266 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: Look at that switch drew. 267 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 4: That is a seventy one point switchdrew in the wrong 268 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 4: direction for Donald Trump when we're coming to the cost 269 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 4: of living and Indance. And this, my dear friends, is 270 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 4: just a political nightmare waiting to happen. 271 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: God, all right again, we have a while till November. 272 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: Don't panic yet. But if those are the numbers in November, pooh, 273 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: just hide under your bed that night and don't watch 274 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: the returns. 275 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: Because it's gonna be ugly. 276 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Fantastic Friday. 277 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 2: Member. 278 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: You can email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. 279 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: Back to this one, Jesse, wouldn't insurance against the midterm 280 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: massacres be to get out the vote? Trump won by 281 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: getting enough votes to overwhelm the cheaters. Can't we overwhelm 282 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: the independence? So on and so forth? All right, just 283 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: really quickly, remember I told you I wasn't here on 284 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: Monday because I was in the hospital, the emergency room, 285 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: to be specific. It was not for me. It was 286 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: somebody close to me. That's all I can say at 287 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: this time. All Right, it was someone close to me. 288 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: It was serious. However, that person is already on the 289 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: road to recovery, at least in part because that person 290 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: works out five or six days a week. Okay, stop, 291 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: let's rewind my father, who you know I lost not 292 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: last year, but at the end of the year before, 293 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: a little more than a year ago. I lost my father. Well, 294 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: what I may have never told you. I may have 295 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:45,479 Speaker 1: wash ten years ago. That's not an accurate number, but 296 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: it's probably pretty close. Ten fifteen years ago. My father 297 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: was walking up a hill in Montana. He was ranching 298 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: at this time. Who was walking up a hill in Montana? 299 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: My dad was a big outdoorsman, always active, and it's 300 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: not one of these sit around types. Just couldn't catch 301 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: his breath, No big deal, gets off the mountain, goes 302 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: see the doctor. My father required a quadruple by pass 303 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: and had had a heart attack on that mountain. 304 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: Walked off the mountain. 305 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: The doctors expressed to him over and over and over again, 306 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: that you're in such great shape and that's probably why 307 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: you're alive today, and his recovery was so much better. Now, 308 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: what does any of this have to do with politics 309 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: and things like that? Well, being in great shape, exercising regularly, 310 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: it may not prevent that heart attack or that pneumonia 311 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: or whatever else may come your way. It may not 312 00:18:54,680 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: prevent that at all. But two things, you will never 313 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: regret being in great shape, and it might take something 314 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: that would normally be fatal and make it something you 315 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: can survive if you are in great shape. When it 316 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: comes to the midterm elections, maybe if prices are still high, 317 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: if we're still in Iran, maybe we are on pace 318 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: for a slaughter where Democrats will wipe us out in 319 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: the midterms. That may be the case, But here's what 320 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: I know. If we continue to work hard, messaging to 321 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: friends and family, we become activists, We get involved in campaigns, 322 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: local campaigns, state campaigns, national campaigns. We contribute. Maybe what 323 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: would be a fatal heart attack in November will instead 324 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: be some of a loss, a painful night. But how 325 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: many of these elections do you see come down to 326 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: a few thousand votes? Here, a few hundred votes there. 327 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: What could be a fatal heart attack on the side 328 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: of a mountain might be let's get you in for 329 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: a surgery. You'll be back on your feet in a 330 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: couple months. If we put in the work now, and 331 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: just like getting in shape, there's never going to come 332 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: a time where we put in the work and we 333 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: worked hard and we grind it for it, and then 334 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: we wake up and say, man, I wish I hadn't 335 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: done that. Dang it, I got too involved. I worked 336 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: too hard on this cause or for this candidate. I 337 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,959 Speaker 1: wish I'd never done it. Nobody has ever said that, 338 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: who got in shape? Dang this was a mistake. 339 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 2: No matter what, no matter what comes wonderful times, a 340 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 2: wonderful November. 341 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: Or a complete blood bath, we will be better off 342 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: if we get involved and stay involved. 343 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 2: And when you continue to. 344 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: Hear numbers like this, I will reinforce this point. Getting involved, 345 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: fight out makes you feel better. 346 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, what about independence? You'd think this forty one points 347 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 4: below water is bad? Take a look at independence. It's 348 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 4: even worse. I mean sixty points underwater. When it comes 349 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 4: to Trump and the cost of living among independence again 350 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 4: a record low. You go back to October of twenty twenty. 351 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 2: We're all gonna die. 352 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: I think maybe maybe not. But if we get involved, 353 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: and we stay involved, we can maybe mitigate those losses, 354 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: Doctor Jesse. A number of times during your Medal of 355 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: Honor citations, the write ups mentioned that a particular recipient 356 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: was in combat would take out a bunch of armed 357 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: enemy soldiers, but then run out of ammo, at which 358 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: point he'd run back to his post to get more. 359 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: Please forgive me. I am not military, but this doesn't 360 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: make sense. If the guy just killed a bunch of 361 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: enemy soldiers who all had guns and ammo, why wouldn't 362 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: he just reach down and use their guns versus risking 363 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: his life to run back and get more ammo. You 364 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: don't have to ask forgiveness. That's an extremely valid question. 365 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: And a couple things on that question. One sometimes they 366 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: do that has happened. We on occasion in Iraq carried 367 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: AK forty sevens off of dead people. It was kind 368 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: of more of a novelty thing, to be honest. I 369 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: didn't like it as much as ours, so look the 370 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: novelty of it wore off. 371 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 2: Ooh, this is dangerous and there were no rules. I 372 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: just hit the microphone. Chris, sorry about that. 373 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: There were no rules when I was there, so they 374 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: let us really do whatever we wanted. So, hey, let's 375 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: pick up an AK forty seven. But you know, one 376 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: of the reasons we stopped using and it's not just 377 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: that the novelty wore off. I hadn't trained all that 378 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: time with that weapon. When you're in the infantry, especially 379 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: Marine Corps infantry, which is supreme to all other infantries, stuff, 380 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: you train with your weapon all the time. All the time, 381 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: you were always training with it, moving with it, shooting 382 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: dry fire over and over and over and over and 383 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: over and over and over again. That crap you see 384 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: in the movies of people assembling and disassembling their rifle blindfolded. 385 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 2: We used to do that. Did you know there was 386 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: a time in my life where I could do that. 387 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: I don't think I could do that anymore. I could 388 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: probably come close. Maybe I'm not sure, but there. 389 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 2: Was a time when I could do that. Isn't that cool? 390 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: Well? 391 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 2: Why? Because I was so tough? 392 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: No, we trained. It's just about training. Remember that great 393 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: line from the movie Man on Fire. There's no such 394 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: thing as tough, there's trained and untrained. We trained with 395 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: them all the freaking time. All the time. 396 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: When you're out in the field, you sleep with it. 397 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: Do you realize you don't go throw your weapons in 398 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: a big pile and everyone crawls into bed. No, it's 399 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: with you all the time, even in completely safe places 400 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: like you're back on base. Nope, inside your sleeping bag. 401 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: We had guys myself included, who used to tie them 402 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: to our arms in case someone would sneak in and 403 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: try to take it up. Is because if they got 404 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: your if you got your weapons stolen, oohoo, you're gonna 405 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: sweat the next day. I haven't trained with that AK 406 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: forty seven sitting on the ground. Yeah, I can charge you, 407 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: put around in the chamber. I can put around in 408 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: the chamber. I can take safety off. I can squeeze 409 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: the trigger, maybe even hit something with it. It's not 410 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: like I'm a novice. I trained with weapons. But if 411 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: I'm in a life or death situation with my adrenaline 412 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: pumping so much, I can hear my heartbeat in my ears. 413 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: My friends are all dead. I'm hurting, I'm bleeding at 414 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: this and that that is not time to learn a 415 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 1: new weapon. That is the time to operate the weapon. 416 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: You know how to operate. Men did pick up enemy 417 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: weapons on occasion, but there's nothing like your baby. There's 418 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: nothing like your weapon. You know it front to back 419 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: and in moments where your life depends on it. 420 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 2: That's kind of important. 421 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: It is a Jesse Kelly show on a magnificent Friday. 422 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: If you miss any part. 423 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: Of the show, you can download the whole thing on iHeart, Spotify, iTunes, 424 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: Hey Bronco. I have a few questions. Since these politicians 425 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: are clearly involved in Blue State fraud, why isn't the 426 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: DOJ indicting them as co conspirators? 427 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 2: Pause? 428 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: You don't know that they aren't, and neither do Why 429 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: there is there's something that happens to all of us. 430 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: Me too, because we only know what we know, and 431 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: we only sometimes see certain professions in certain walks of 432 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: life through a lens that may not be accurate. Oftentimes 433 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: your lens is television, a movie or TV, or maybe 434 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: it's even a book. Law Enforcement, the Law and Order, 435 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: you know the television show Law and Order. I've seen 436 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: a couple episodes. I was never a big TV guy, 437 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: but I know what it is. An episode of Law 438 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: and Order was an hour and in an hour long span. 439 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: They would see a crime, cops that get involved, arrest 440 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: a bad guy, bad guy gets the trial, bad guy 441 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,719 Speaker 1: gets convicted, goes to prison. 442 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 2: With commercial breaks. 443 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: That's about forty two minutes television. Anybody who's ever been 444 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: involved in the legal profession knows the distance from crime 445 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: to him going to prison is about ten thousand miles. 446 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: It's a law long time, a long time. Christians said, 447 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: a simple assault case can take five years. Oh, you 448 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: can't imagine, You can't imagine. Now, Actually, let's go up 449 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: with what Jewish producer Christian said. 450 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: That's me. 451 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: I get mad at that libertarian who came up to me, 452 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: and I'd punch his teeth out of his face, and 453 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: I do it on camera. It's probably two or three 454 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: years before I stand trial. That's when the trial starts. 455 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: Then I have to get convicted, which I probably would. 456 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,719 Speaker 2: Then they have to figure out sentencing. 457 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: It's if I go to jail, be years. Now, that's 458 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: a simple assault case. Me punch face, simple assault case. 459 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: Now let's go to a case of for instance, you 460 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: brought up fraud, fraud committed at least not just by 461 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 1: foreigners and criminals here in America, but with the knowledge 462 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 1: of American politics, possibly the participation. 463 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 2: Of American politicians. 464 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: So now you have parts of the system that are 465 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: dedicated to covering it up. In fact, their freedom, their livelihoods, 466 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: depend on covering it up. They have to throw every 467 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: roadblock in front of it they can. That's not a 468 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: defense of lack of indictments, not at all. But we 469 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: want legal things wrapped up in forty two minutes, like 470 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: an episode of Law and Order. And that's not how 471 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 1: it works. And it's definitely not how it works when 472 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: it comes to cases of conspiracy, fraud, these kinds of things, 473 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: because there are so many different tentacles in parts of 474 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: the story. If you ever nerd out on organized crime stuff, 475 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: for mafia stuff or any of that stuff, as I. 476 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: Do, as you know, if you go deeper than watching. 477 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: Goodfellas, which there's nothing wrong with watching good Fellas, but 478 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: if you go deeper than that and actually read the 479 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: books and things like that about it, the amount of 480 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: time it takes to bring these people down. John Gotti 481 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: was the head of the Gambino crime family. This was 482 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: why they known everyone in law enforcement knew it. John 483 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: Gotty was a murderer. Why they known everyone in law 484 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: enforcement knew it. Everybody in law enforcement knew he killed 485 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: Paul Castelano, the former head of the Gambino crime family. 486 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: Everybody knew it. Everybody knew. Everybody knew he had done 487 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: Beep beep beep, everybody knew. 488 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: It took multiple trials. 489 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: Uh, there's a gosh. I want to say, Netflix, but 490 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: I'm not sure about that. So if I'm wrong about that, 491 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I think it's called Get Gotti. Chris, get Gotty, 492 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: g O T T I. 493 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 2: Chris. 494 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: I know you don't know a spell, all right, I 495 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: know you don't know a spell. Jewish producer Chris is 496 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: looking it up right now. 497 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: But if you're. 498 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: Interested in what Chris said, Netflix, okay, there you go. 499 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: If you're interested in what I'm talking about, you don't 500 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: feel like reading about it. It's mafia stuff. Everyone finds 501 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: it interesting, and I believe it might have been appropriate 502 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: for kids. Don't quote me on that. Okay, go watch 503 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: Get Gotti. No I knew about the John Gotti story, 504 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: but the amount of hours law enforcement had to take, days, years, trials, failure, mistrial, 505 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: aquitto over and. 506 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 2: This is a guy everybody knew. Everyone knew. There was 507 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 2: no mystery in it. Gott He practically bragged about it 508 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 2: on camera. Yeah I'm a mobster, look at me. 509 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: And they still couldn't convict him. That doesn't mean take 510 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: the pressure off the DOJ. That doesn't mean Pam Bondi's 511 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: doing a great job. 512 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 2: But I know this. I know this, the Trump DOJ. 513 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: They are looking into the rampant corruption in Democrat states. 514 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: You know how, I know it for a fact, not 515 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: just that they've announced it. Donald Trump put JD. Vans 516 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: in charge of it. So let's talk about the politics 517 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: of this. Why would you, as Donald Trump, make JD. 518 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: Vance the face of a corruption probe? Why would you 519 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: do it? Here's why you would do it. You would 520 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,959 Speaker 1: assume that JD. Vance is the heir apparent to Trump, 521 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: and that's of right now, he's the odds on favorite. 522 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 2: And you would only give him that 523 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: Role the face of it, if you thought he was 524 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: going to notch a political win out of it.