1 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: And we're back. 2 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: This will wrap up the talk about leaving gardens during 3 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 2: this segment of the show. I'm here with Jerome Stanger 4 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: and Paul Callazar and Andrew Bunting from the Pennsylvania Horticulture Society. Jerome, 5 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: you had something you wanted to add. 6 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to say that this is not 7 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 3: helping in any way. I am, I think, you know, 8 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 3: still pretty down. So I'm looking over at Paul here 9 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 3: and I'm hoping that he's going to say something that's 10 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 3: going to pick me up. 11 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: I'm hoping. I'm hoping. 12 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: So so it's good to have because you've left several gardens, 13 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: so your perspective will be really important. 14 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 4: Had two gardens in Indianapolis. We had a small house 15 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 4: when we had the twins that we had to move 16 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 4: out of because we had twins, So I had I 17 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 4: had a little garden there, and like you, I left 18 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 4: a little not really a manual. I left a list 19 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 4: of plants for them. I didn't take too many plants 20 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 4: to our next house, which we didn't live in very long, 21 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 4: so I didn't have a chance to build much of 22 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 4: a garden there. I left some cool stuff there, weeping parodia, 23 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 4: but you know, maybe I take the long view. 24 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: I sort of feel like. 25 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 4: Whatever I whatever I grow, if the next person who 26 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 4: comes along can enjoy it, so be it. There's a 27 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 4: few things that are are you know, I take of 28 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 4: sentimental value. Plants from friends. I have still an iris 29 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 4: from Hillary Cox shout out to Hillary living in Arizona. 30 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 4: I still have the iris she gave me as a 31 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 4: housewarming gift or at our first house in Indianapolis. Now 32 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 4: we've been in our current yard house garden for over 33 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 4: twenty years, and if we moved there, there'd be a 34 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 4: lot of stuff I'd leave. There'd be a handful of 35 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 4: things I'd take. But you know, it's it's it's there 36 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 4: for whoever. I I know I'm not going to live forever. 37 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 4: The gardens part of it's going to go on. Some 38 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 4: of it is unreasonable for me to think I can 39 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 4: take I've got a. 40 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: Thirty foot tall beech tree. 41 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, Like to me, it's not even like 42 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: it's not even really plant related. In the end, it's 43 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 3: just like the time that you spent in that garden 44 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 3: when you were alive. 45 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, and what it meant to But that's everything. Everything 46 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 4: you do is the same way you spend time with 47 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 4: things and people and in places, and you've experienced that 48 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 4: and enjoyed that, and you can I just reflect on 49 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 4: those and enjoy that. 50 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: I'll say, I reflect on that. There's a lot I forget. 51 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of hard work you'd like to forget. Yeah, yeah, 52 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: all the weeds. I take solace. 53 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 2: And I've got the advantage of having been in my 54 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: garden now for thirty years. 55 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: I think right around there. 56 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: And you know, it started out as a sun garden, 57 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:19,119 Speaker 2: with a lot of experiments and trialing different plants and 58 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: collecting things. You know, a lot of Japanese maples, a 59 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 2: lot of trees which are now growing to be have 60 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: become pretty large. And I'm taking solace in the fact 61 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: that yet the sunny perennial garden out front might get bulldozed, 62 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: might become lawn. But anybody buying my house with the 63 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: vision of cutting down all those trees, that's rare. I 64 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: think most people will look at that backyard full of 65 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: trees and say, oh, I like the nice, shady, wooded backyard, 66 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: and maybe those things will continue. 67 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: Andrew, Yeah, I would. 68 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 5: I would just recommend don't if you do sell it, 69 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 5: I would recommend maybe not going back to look at. 70 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: It, don't only that. 71 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, we only just sold my mom's house like two 72 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 5: weeks ago. And one of the concessions I had to 73 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 5: make was, I don't know if somebody told the new 74 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 5: homeowner that these trees were too close to the house 75 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 5: and they were causing you know, mold and mildew and stuff, 76 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 5: and and so I said, okay, you know, I'll give 77 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,239 Speaker 5: you four thousand dollars. And I thought that he would 78 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 5: just you know, keep the four thousand. Only like probably 79 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 5: the day he took ownership, he cut down a co routeria, 80 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 5: a yellow magnolia, a cornice acousas to tell me, like 81 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 5: all the best trees in the yard, which we're really 82 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 5: not doing anything to the house. 83 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: I hear the pain in your voice. 84 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 5: All the good stuff was gone. So I I, you know, 85 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 5: I drove down the street. You know, it's my fault. 86 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 5: You know, I would I would advise against that. 87 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. 88 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 3: I mean, like the average home has new ownership every 89 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: ten years or so. Scott and I were talking about this, 90 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 3: and so ten years isn't a lot of time for 91 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: a tree to grow. So a lot of the you know, 92 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 3: getting a tree to maturity, you know, is takes a lifetime, 93 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: and it's so much easier for a new homeowner to 94 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 3: take out a young tree than a mature tree, you know. 95 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,679 Speaker 3: And I mean I've seen it just with other friends, 96 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 3: little arboretums in their yard. They leave, and then every 97 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: tree in that yard is taken out the next day 98 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: when that contract is signed. So yeah, I don't know. 99 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 3: I there is a like you don't want to be 100 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 3: in communication with like new homeowners, right, Like that's the 101 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 3: last thing I want to do, but it's probably broke, 102 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 3: right exactly, Yeah, Like, but I don't know, I could 103 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: I could maybe just like trespass now and then you 104 00:05:58,680 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 3: know when they're. 105 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: Not visitors, right, you know visitation rights, you. 106 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 3: Like visit the neighbors and kind of get a look 107 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: in something like that. We'll figure that out. 108 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 2: But as Andrew said, you might not want to do that. 109 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: So I know this is older gardener's faces, and well 110 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: I'll go, you know, you guys are younger and you've moved. 111 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 2: But I know every older gardener that I know really 112 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: just is looking for I know one that literally offered 113 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 2: the house for free to someone that would garden it on. 114 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 2: And that's the kind of emotional thing that people do 115 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: have for their gardens and how hard it is to 116 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: leave even when you can no longer garden it anymore. 117 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 2: Maybe that's even harder. I don't know, but yeah, interesting topic. 118 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 2: I think we should all go out drinking after this. Yeah, Andrew, 119 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 2: even though it's seven in the morning, that's okay, I know, 120 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: you know, after talking about all this stuff, it's a 121 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 2: good stiff drink would be great. The hard part would 122 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: be finding somebody that would serve it to us. But Andrew, 123 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: I want to thank you for being on the show 124 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: with us today. Tell us how people can learn more 125 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: about the work that you're doing at the Pennsylvania Horticulture Society. 126 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, the easiest way is to our website which has 127 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 5: all the information PHS online dot org. And you know, 128 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 5: come and visit us as well, come to the Flowers Show, 129 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 5: come see some of our public gardens. That's a great 130 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 5: way to get involved or become a member. You know, 131 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 5: we have members all over the United States. Oh wow, okay, 132 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 5: way to get involved as well. 133 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 134 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 2: Well, thanks again for being here and thanks for all 135 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: the work you do. All of us appreciate it, and 136 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: I hope people will call or visit and help you 137 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: guys out volunteering or whatever they can do. You're listening 138 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: to you. You're welcome. You're listening to Let's Garden with 139 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: Scott Berlin. Will take a break when we come back, 140 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: much more lighthearted topic. 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Thank you both for being here. 183 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 2: It's been pleasure discussion so far today, I think, and 184 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: now we're turning into something that could be a lot 185 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: of fun songs about plants and gardens. And you know, 186 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: one thing I've discovered looking doing I discovered when I 187 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: typed into AI songs about plants and gardens is that 188 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 2: there are a lot of songs that reference gardens or 189 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: plants but are not about gardens and plants. And that 190 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 2: just is a thing and not to be, you know, unexpected. 191 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 2: I don't think. 192 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 4: I was just reading for the first time the lyrics 193 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 4: to Gardening at Night by R. E. M. Yeah, not 194 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 4: really so much about gardening, no, but apparently it has 195 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 4: a I guess they got the idea by late night 196 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 4: stop by the side of the road to He's a 197 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 4: pressure Oh okay, And apparently that's a there's a term 198 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 4: night gardening apparently has something. 199 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: To do with that. Oh, I didn't know that. 200 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: I had no idea either. It's a beautiful song. Now 201 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: that I know about it, you know that it's about 202 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: your nation. I'm not as excited about it. 203 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: All is that night? 204 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: Well no, no, I was thinking with the piano and yeah, 205 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 2: that's a different other one. 206 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, you're not supposed to do that either. 207 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 2: No, no, I found a song that is actually about 208 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 2: gardens and it's pretty cool. 209 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 7: Uh. 210 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: It's Stephen Still's with the first band that he was with, Manassas, 211 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: after I think the first terrible you know, angry breakup 212 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 2: of CSN and Y or whatever. So he formed a 213 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: band with really kind of a supergroup, really a lot 214 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: of great musicians called Manassas, and that first album is 215 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 2: really good. It's one that's kind of fallen through the cracks. 216 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 2: I don't think many people know about that part of 217 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: his career. But his song is called Johnny's Garden and 218 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 2: it's this great contrast. At first of all, it was 219 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 2: an English tutor that he was staying at in England 220 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: when he was off tour, and it was previously owned 221 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: by Peter sellers and somebody else famous Spencer. 222 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: Tracy, so he would go there after. 223 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: You know, being on tour, and the song is just 224 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 2: it is a good song first of all, and then 225 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: it's really cool because it goes back and forth and 226 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: the verses and the chorus is about coming off the 227 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: road and being wiped out and terribly tired and coming 228 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 2: down from that incredible high of being on tour and 229 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: being incredibly high probably the entire time of the tour, 230 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 2: and then what a relief it was to go back 231 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 2: to be in this garden. And it's called Johnny's garden 232 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 2: because the caretaker, the gardener at the estate was Johnny, 233 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: and I found it. 234 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 7: You know. 235 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: The lyrics if you go and look for him, really 236 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: really sweet. I have not heard this song, no, got 237 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: to look it up. Yeah, yeah, I wasn't. 238 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 4: Actually are we singing I want a. 239 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: Garden at night? 240 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 3: How does how does that song go? 241 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: Scott? 242 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 2: I don't have it in my head right now. No 243 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 2: one would want to, and that's a lie. I can 244 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 2: remember every note, but I can't hit every note, so 245 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 2: that's funny. 246 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 3: I've got one here. I'm going to do a Beatles 247 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 3: two fer, just huge Beetles huge Beetles fan. Global Beatles 248 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,239 Speaker 3: Day was I believe on Tuesday. The first one, obviously 249 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 3: you have to touch on Strawberry Fields Forever. Yeah, not really. 250 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 3: Strawberry Fields is a place in London. It's not really 251 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 3: like a garden. I don't know that. Yeah, it's like 252 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 3: a park. I don't even know if there's strawberries in 253 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 3: the park. It's more of a geographical reference, right, But 254 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 3: got to mention it because strawberry and the name. The 255 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: other one that I would like to plug is Octopus's Garden. 256 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 3: Oh okay, not not a traditional garden, but I will 257 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 3: have you know that the Octopus's garden is a shade garden. 258 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 3: He says it in the first line of but. 259 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: It's under sea. 260 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's still a shade garden. 261 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: Under the seaweed, under a canopy of seaweed under the sea. 262 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 3: Such a such a fun song, such a playful one 263 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 3: of Ringo's best songs. People of all ages can tap 264 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 3: into this song. George does a lot of really sick 265 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 3: guitar soloing on this song in and around. 266 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 2: About helping out Ringos and any of the songs he 267 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 2: added so much. 268 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: And so polite with his guitar licks just filling in all. 269 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: The other They're perfect, They're always. 270 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: Just so there, and I'm enjoying this. 271 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna sit back and watch you. 272 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: To as long as we're talking about the Beatles, and 273 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: especially George Harrison. That was my next guy because he's 274 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 2: renowned for being a gardener. 275 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 3: Oh wait, hold on, yeah, sorry, sorry, one more, one 276 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 3: more thing about Octopus's garden. So the last line is like, 277 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 3: it's like you and me. You won't be so happy 278 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: you and me, no one there to tell us what 279 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 3: to do, don't do. And that's the best garden is 280 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 3: a place where no one else can tell you what 281 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 3: to do. 282 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: Love it. 283 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 2: As you say, when you just moved into your girlfriend's 284 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: house with an existing. 285 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 3: Gardener, I didn't think about that, Fances, No big deal. 286 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 2: Okay, So back to George Harrison. Uh a committed gardener. 287 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: In fact, when things were bad with the Beatles and things, Uh, 288 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: he almost could not be torn away from the garden. 289 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: He was in it so much. 290 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 2: And and his garden was Friar what's it called Friar Park, Uh, 291 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: in a state he bought that was in bad disrepair. 292 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: And he put a lot of time and money and 293 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: his own work into restoring both the house and the garden. 294 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: The house was originally built by an eccentric person named 295 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 2: Frankie Crisp, and uh included it's weirdness, funny worthy things 296 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 2: with poems on walls, you know, trick rooms and different 297 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 2: things like that. I think part of that appeal was, 298 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: you know what appealed to George and his song a 299 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 2: ballad of Frankie Crisp on his first solo and All 300 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 2: Things Must Pass is a tribute to him. And uh yeah, 301 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 2: kind of a neat thing, really cool. Paul, you got 302 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 2: another song. 303 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 4: Well there's that old, kind of traditional the garden song 304 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 4: you heard Peter, Paul and Mary do it? 305 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: John Denver? Okay, inch by inch row bye row. That's 306 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: all I'm gonna sing. Good. That was beautiful. You're welcome. 307 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: Yeah you were better this time than you were on 308 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: the first. Thank you for sure. Untrained voice. 309 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, how about this one down in the wi gonearden? 310 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: No, oh, everly brothers. 311 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 3: Oh you're going back down down in the willow garden. 312 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 3: It's actually an Appalachian murder ballad. 313 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: Well, oh, Irish, we're back to the. 314 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: Irish murder ballads. Why did that ever become a thing. 315 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 3: It's not an Irish spout. It was actually like an 316 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 3: Irish irishman that came over here and was traveling around 317 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 3: the Appalachians and the early nineteen hundreds, and then it 318 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 3: kind of caught on as this sort of local song, 319 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 3: and that was finally recorded I forget by who in 320 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 3: like the nineteen twenties. But the Everly Brothers do an 321 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 3: extremely haunting version of it, and it's obviously their their 322 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 3: vocal harmonies throughout the song. But and it's it's not 323 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 3: a happy song. 324 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: It's a very most very ballads are a very cold. 325 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 3: Evil song, but it's one of the most beautiful, haunting songs. 326 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: You'll ever hear. Same with in the Pines. 327 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 2: It's a one that goes around lead belly, oh, lots 328 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: of yeah, and lots of covers. Yeah, mentions pine trees, 329 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: you know. But another murder ballad that just. 330 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 3: The garden is a place where bad things take. 331 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 2: Place, bad things take place, which is weird, very very weird. 332 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: I wanted to mention a few musicians who are avid 333 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 2: gardeners that I didn't know about. Sting has a nine 334 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 2: hundred checks out. Apparently he invested. Wow, he didn't waste 335 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: his money from the police. In his solo career, he 336 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 2: has a nine hundred acre estate in Tuscany. Yeah, one 337 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 2: hundred percent organic, grows all his own food, has vineyards 338 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 2: and olives, produces wine and honey, and maybe maybe it's 339 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: even profitable. Knowing Sting, you know, he seems like the 340 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 2: kind of guy that's focused. 341 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: And uh yeah, locked in, locked in. Absolutely. 342 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 3: There was a I was just in New York City 343 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 3: and he has some kind of production going on. So 344 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 3: his posters were like everywhere in the subway and it's 345 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 3: just like the sting stare his face, his giant face, 346 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: just like staring into your soul. Huh yeah, I'm gonna 347 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 3: we got a minute here before the break. 348 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna mention and one that I did not 349 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 2: know and did not expect. But Kirk Hammett really kind 350 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 2: of known as a jerk and what lead singer and 351 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 2: guitar player in Metallica is an avid gardener. Maybe that 352 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 2: thing of getting away from the noise and having a 353 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: quiet place is really important. But he has a sprawling, 354 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: edible garden in northern California. He says digging in the 355 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: dirt provides great hand strength exercise. 356 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, he is the guitar player. 357 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 2: I guess you're listening to Let's Garden with Scott Burline. 358 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 2: We'll talk more about songs and music. Let's call it 359 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 2: more songs about plants and birds and rocks and things 360 00:20:41,240 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 2: in just a few minutes. 361 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 7: This summer smarter with Jaws the just add water system. 362 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 7: Just fill the bottle with water, insert of refill pod, 363 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 7: and you're ready to clean. 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I'm here 382 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 2: with Paul callos Are and who are your Jerome Stanger, 383 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 2: both from the Cincinni Potanical Garden and zoo, and we 384 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 2: are talking about songs or about plants or gardens. 385 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 3: I just thought of a really good one. 386 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: Okay, go with jump. 387 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 2: Oh wait, I want to just say before you do 388 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 2: that that I apologize for Jerome and Paul singing. I 389 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: would never do that to you. 390 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: I wondered if he wasn't going to bring a guitar. 391 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 3: Hell, well, you know, we we tend to get down. 392 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny. Yeah, actually it wasn't that bad. 393 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: I apologize that was that was a mean, mean spirited joke. 394 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I feel okay about myself. 395 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 4: My wife did say I was a little bit off 396 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 4: key on some of those attempts at harmony there the 397 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 4: last time we sang. 398 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 3: But all right, guys, all right, yeah. Nineteen seventy six, 399 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 3: this guy made an electronic album. 400 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 1: You know what it is. 401 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 3: He made an electronic album and it was just this 402 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 3: cult thing in I think it was La But it 403 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 3: was at this little house plant garden center and every 404 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 3: time you bought a houseplant you would get this recording 405 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 3: with it, and the songs were all the concept was 406 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 3: songs for house plants to listen to in your own 407 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 3: Mort Garson's Mother Earth's Plantasia, right, and it's a it's 408 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 3: a Moog synthesizer album. It's one of the first like 409 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 3: electronic albums. And some of the song names are really fun. 410 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 3: Symphony for a spider plant owed to an African violet 411 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 3: swinging spathophylums. This album is mind blowing. It is trippy, 412 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,239 Speaker 3: it is a loucinogenic, it is all nude and it 413 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 3: is great gardening music. 414 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: What is the title again, It's. 415 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 3: Called Mother Earth's Plantasia Bye by Mort Garson. 416 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 2: Mort Carson, that's not remember. 417 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 3: Mother Earth was the name of the store that they 418 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 3: meddled the house plants and music out of. But it's 419 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 3: gotten called following it was like uploaded a YouTube in 420 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 3: like twenty seventeen, and it like exploded. Wow, very cool. 421 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 3: I highly recommend it. 422 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: Paul, I can't top that. I don't. I know you can't. 423 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: But what if you got. 424 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 4: You did prompt me to remember nothing but flowers by 425 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 4: Talking Heads, which is kind of a it's a return 426 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,239 Speaker 4: to Eden kind of thing, and uh and and in 427 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 4: it he's lamenting. He's lamenting the loss of pizza huts 428 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 4: and things like that, and actually kind of doesn't love 429 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 4: the whole flower thing. Well, I mean it sounds lovely 430 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 4: to me, but. 431 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 3: Suburban sprawl kind of song really really in the maybe 432 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 3: the themes of contemporary America. 433 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 2: Mm hmm, let me rescue from this, Yeah, get back 434 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: to a radio show. I'm this isn't really a song 435 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 2: about gardens, but it has a flowers in the title, 436 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 2: and I just like it because it has spawned a 437 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 2: million imitations of people who have taken sort of the 438 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 2: idea of the song and made their own version. So 439 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 2: it's a it's a Rolling Stone's Deep track, not one 440 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: of their hits, but it's called. 441 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,719 Speaker 3: Not dead Flowers, Dead Flowers Flowers. 442 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so it's about, uh, I guess a breakup 443 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 2: and and and the ex is getting married and you know, 444 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 2: it's just uh, it's a really cool song with a 445 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 2: lot of depth to the lyrics. 446 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 3: And Mick Jagger with the like affected country yes vocal, 447 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 3: which is one of the best mc jagger vocals vocals. 448 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, people always underestimate him. I think as a lyricist 449 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 2: he has a track by track by track there's there's 450 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 2: usually something pretty good in the lyrics on that. 451 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. 452 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 2: My favorite copy of it of Dead Flowers is Wilko's 453 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 2: I Think Don't Forget the Flowers, which is great, almost 454 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 2: a complete ripoff. It's really close to Dead Flowers. Definitely 455 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: a tribute. You know, it's clear as day when you 456 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 2: listen to it, but also a really really good song 457 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 2: with you know, same more or less the same theme. 458 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 4: So you two have hit your stride right here. I'm 459 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 4: sitting here completely out of my depth? Are you I 460 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 4: like music? 461 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: I don't. 462 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 3: I don't think I have a deep knowledge of it. 463 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: But I didn't. You know. 464 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 4: You came here, you had the you set the topic. 465 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 4: I didn't promise you anything. 466 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 3: No, it's okay, I've got I have a few more. 467 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 3: I absolutely have to get to go. All right, What 468 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 3: what is a what is a song that you know 469 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 3: where the percussion in the song is people chomping on celery. 470 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 1: I've never heard it, and I just don't know. Is 471 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: that a Zappa song. 472 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 3: It's a Beach Boys song called Vegetables. 473 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: Oh from Pets Smiley Smiley Smile. 474 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 3: That's right after that, and uh, it's kind of a 475 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 3: nod to Urban Egg and what Andrew was talking about. 476 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 3: But they just kind of go through all the vegetables. 477 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,959 Speaker 3: It has like a farmer's market energy to it, and 478 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 3: it's really cool. The percussion is then. 479 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: Like crunchy stuff they can find. 480 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 2: I don't know about you guys, but I don't like 481 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 2: listening to other people chew their food. 482 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,959 Speaker 3: The production on this is amazing, It really isn't it. 483 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 3: You don't get a lot of like the wealthy no 484 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 3: flat back good. 485 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 2: I just imagine you know that turned up the speaker, 486 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 2: you know, your gents in three ways in the back 487 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 2: of your car, you know, dialed up to eleven, and 488 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 2: you're listening to somebody. 489 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 4: To every every person out here who already shudders at 490 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 4: the word moist is just doubled over in pain. 491 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 492 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 3: Another another one I really wanted to get to and 493 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 3: This is kind of like opening up the category a 494 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 3: little bit. But village green preservation society. There you go 495 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 3: with fans, huge Kinks fans wanted to throw that in 496 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 3: for Scott. But the song itself village green, you know, 497 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 3: it's it's about a communal green space in the center 498 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 3: of town and of a. 499 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: Village like a village. 500 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, classic idyllic like a village English countryside. 501 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 502 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 3: And the the sort of courses. I miss the village 503 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 3: green and all the simple people. I missed the village green, 504 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 3: the church, the clock, the steeple. He's kind of reminiscing 505 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 3: about what England used to be and there's some cultural 506 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 3: importance to the song and it's a it's a beautiful song. 507 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 3: But mhm. In the heart of it is green space. 508 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it, which builds community. It's you know, 509 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 2: that's that's you go to any community with a lot 510 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: of dedication commitment to green spaces, it feels much better 511 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 2: and different. Absolutely, So along those lines, this has nothing 512 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: to do with roses, but a jam song called English 513 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: Rose is just a devotion to England. 514 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: Really beautiful song. The jam, oh the jam. 515 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of roses, I've got I'll just mention a 516 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 2: bunch of songs that have rose in the title English 517 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: Rose by the Jam Rose Garden by Stevie Nicks never 518 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 2: promised you a rose garden by whoever that was. 519 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: That was Joe South was much covered, much covered. Yep. 520 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: More rose songs. Kiss from a Rose by. 521 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 2: You Sting Desert Rose, and I thought there was. 522 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 3: What's that hair band songs like every rose has its own? 523 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then there's guns and Roses. Oh yeah, yeah. 524 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 3: A couple a couple more contemporary rose songs for all 525 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 3: you younger listeners out there. Roses by Outcast and Dried Roses 526 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: by Big Thief or two of two of my favorite 527 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 3: rose songs. Not related to gardening really in anyway. 528 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the problem. More more musicians should write songs 529 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: about gardens. 530 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 3: A rose for Emily the Zombies. 531 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 2: Yes, what's that classic album? Yeah, such a good album. 532 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 2: I haven't played that a long time. I need to 533 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 2: do that. And that's a very sad song, sort of 534 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 2: along the lines of eleanor Rigby kind of thing. 535 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, good comp Yeah, I won't play it for 536 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 4: my daughter, then do it? 537 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: Well, I think I better listen to it first. 538 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 3: No, No, it's not like that. Okay, it's a very 539 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 3: well she's old enough, it's very beautiful. It's a very 540 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 3: beautiful song. 541 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 2: Okay, again one that's not specifically about gardens, but references 542 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 2: plants as wildflowers by Tom Petty, which is a really 543 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 2: heart felt song about sort of deserving good things for yourself, 544 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 2: and some of the lines on it are just beautiful. 545 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:31,719 Speaker 2: And I read an interview once where he was talking 546 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: with this therapist about well, first of all, the song 547 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: came to him like immediately he wrote it, in the 548 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,719 Speaker 2: length of time that the song is, and and he 549 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 2: didn't know where it came from, you know, it was like, 550 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 2: where did that come from? He's talking to his therapist 551 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 2: about how did that just channel to me like that? 552 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: And what's it? You know, what's it about? Who's it for? 553 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 2: And the therapist said, you wrote that for yourself, which 554 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,719 Speaker 2: is really it was like a complete revelation to him. 555 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: At the time. I was like, wow, I did. Actually 556 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: he was at a. 557 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 2: Time in his life where he really needed that kind 558 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: of self love sort of thing. 559 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 3: I would be remiss if I did not mention the soundtrack, 560 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 3: which is mostly orchestral to the very popular underground cartoon 561 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 3: network Mini series called Over the Garden Wall, and Trudy 562 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 3: introduced this to me. But it's a very autumnal story 563 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 3: about two kids on a journey through this fantastic dark 564 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 3: fantasy landscape. But it's a really great soundtrack voiced by 565 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 3: Elijah Wood, Christopher Lloyd, Tim Curry, Chris Isaac, Thomas Lennon, 566 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 3: John Clease just stacked a vocal cast and the arrangements, 567 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 3: which is an original score for the show. And then 568 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 3: there are a couple musical numbers. Two Chris Isaac sings 569 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 3: one of the more beautiful songs. 570 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: On this Such an amazing run. 571 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 4: I have a lot to check out now, Yeah, you're 572 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 4: the Garden Way. I do have an addition, I can 573 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 4: throw it. You were talking about fantasies and animation, so 574 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 4: Fantasia two thousand, Taikowski's Tchaikowski. I'm saying it wrong. I 575 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 4: could never get a Tchaikowsky gig on. Yeah, on a 576 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 4: classical station's four Seasons, No excuse me, that's Valdi Firebird Suite, 577 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 4: Firebird Suite. Yeah, they do an animation at the Firebird 578 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 4: Suite where it's this the Spring Awakening kind of thing, 579 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 4: which is not strictly speaking, gardening, but just seeing the 580 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 4: quickening of nature, you know, reviving after a horrible event 581 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 4: and everything just greening up again. 582 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful thing. 583 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 2: Well, we need to wrap this up. I hope you 584 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 2: enjoyed it out there. We we had fun, We sang, 585 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 2: we cried. 586 00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 3: Feeling a little better. 587 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: Now are you feeling better? 588 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 3: Actually feel a little bit better? 589 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: Good? 590 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, good. Well we'll take a break. Welcome, and when 591 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 2: we come back, we'll wrap things up a little bit 592 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 2: and then talk to Gary Sullivan. 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That was it? 616 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 7: Yea. 617 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: We tried to levin the serious themes with with just 618 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 2: our own polite happiness. But I don't know if we 619 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 2: were successful or not. I really don't. 620 00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,439 Speaker 3: I think we did a pretty good job. 621 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 4: I think we You relented about my bad singing. 622 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, things took. 623 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: A weird, multi weird turn. I felt good though you 624 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: came to I. 625 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,439 Speaker 2: Did I peck around it. I'm at depth in my heart. 626 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 2: I'm actually pretty nice. 627 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. I can't wait to hear you sing. 628 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 2: I will never you will never hear that. So at 629 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 2: your home. We've got a REDS project coming up. 630 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 3: We do talking about the REDS Community Fund earlier in 631 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 3: the show. This summer, in the next month, we are 632 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 3: going to be in the community of Winton Hills and 633 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 3: we are going to be installing three landscapes, one at 634 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 3: the Winton Hills Academy, one at the CRC, and a 635 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 3: landscape renovation also at the newly purchased community Center there. 636 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 3: It's going to be really beautiful. We are going to 637 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 3: be installing an urban learning garden at the Academy, which 638 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 3: is going to be quite different this year. We are 639 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 3: planting over one hundred and twenty very large trees and 640 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 3: tying that into a tree stroll, if you will, for 641 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 3: the kids. That's very educational and immersive. You follow this 642 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 3: path and it opens up into these different tree rooms. 643 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 1: Oh wow, as you move. 644 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 3: Through the field, snaking through and so it's just going 645 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 3: to be a full on tree experience. 646 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 2: It's gonna and we being the cincinna Potanical Garden in 647 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 2: Zoo in collaboration with the Cincinnaia Reds called the Cincinna 648 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 2: Reds Community Community Fund, and I'll tell you they do 649 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 2: amazing work year after year after year. I am so impressed, 650 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 2: in awe of everything that they've done for our community. 651 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 2: It's really a blessing to have them. Paul also at 652 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Potanical Garden in Zoo. At the zoo itself, 653 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,280 Speaker 2: we have a new exhibit opening this. 654 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 4: Habitat Habitat Habitat the Mexican Wolf Habitat will be opening 655 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 4: sometime this fall. So brand new space for Mexican Wolf. 656 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 4: New and improved focuses on our conservation efforts with or 657 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 4: for rather for the Mexican wolf. 658 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 2: Very cool, very cool. You guys ready to talk to 659 00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 2: Gary Sullivan? 660 00:37:59,200 --> 00:37:59,439 Speaker 1: Sure? 661 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 3: Thanks Scott. 662 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: Gary? Are you there? I am here, sir, How are you? 663 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 1: I'm fine? How are you this morning? 664 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 7: I'm fine, But I'm not singing for anybody. 665 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 2: If you're not, I'm thanking you for it. 666 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 7: That's it. I just want to make my statement up front, 667 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 7: and I'm sure you're cool with that. 668 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: I'm fine. Yeah, I'm fine. I feel no shame. You 669 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: go there, you go. 670 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 7: Oh gosh, So today we're going to have an interesting discussion. 671 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,439 Speaker 7: It's a granite coating system. This might even work good 672 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 7: down at your zoo and botanical gardens all yours. Yeah, 673 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 7: it's very cool. We're going to have the Fella invented it. 674 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 7: It's a called spread rock wall, and it can be 675 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 7: used inside and outside. It's literally crushed granted with an 676 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,919 Speaker 7: acrylic resin. So you might say, why would you use this? 677 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,359 Speaker 7: Take an example of a house, and I'm sure you've 678 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 7: seen plenty of these where the foundation goes like three 679 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 7: feet up in the air, and then you have brick 680 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 7: or vinyl sighting and you're like, that looks so stupid. 681 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 7: You could put this, uh, spread rock it's a speckled 682 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 7: granite coating system right over that foundation. In other words, 683 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 7: you could you can dress it up a little bit, 684 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 7: you can make it look more finished, you can make 685 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 7: it look like it's part of the house. 686 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: So that's one use for it. 687 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 7: Yeah, you could use it on columns or maybe if 688 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 7: you have a covered entryway and you want to accent 689 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 7: the door, maybe you just have wood around that. You 690 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 7: could use this wall system, this coating right over the 691 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 7: wood kind of really highlight it. And you could use 692 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 7: it indoors on accent walls just like you would paint. 693 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:42,800 Speaker 7: Very cool product. 694 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:48,439 Speaker 1: It looks naturally Yeah. Wow, Yeah, it's so anyway. 695 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 7: We're going to learn the whole thing, you know, the 696 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 7: whole story behind that. It's Peter Dice, who's my guess, 697 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 7: and it's Dice Coatings is the product. Always call them 698 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 7: the mad scientists because for the last probably twelve years 699 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 7: I've talked with him, it's like every three or four 700 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 7: months he's got another fantastic product that really is cool. 701 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 7: Like he's one of the first ones that came up 702 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 7: with a slip resistant or I think he. 703 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: Is one of the first ones. 704 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 7: I don't know that for sure, slip resistant gloss, clear 705 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 7: seiler for concrete for like garage floors, o patios. You know, 706 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 7: sometimes a lot of the stamp concrete can get a 707 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 7: little slippery. 708 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: With some of the sailors. 709 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 7: This is it's called track safe, So we'll learn a 710 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 7: little bit about that. Now he's adding collar to that, 711 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 7: so it's not a clear sailor. It can actually be 712 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 7: a solid look. So anyway that should be we should 713 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,760 Speaker 7: be able to spark some folks interest. 714 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: Very good, very good, And I'll. 715 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 7: Do it without singing. I want to just state that 716 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 7: we're going to do it without singing. So anyway we'll 717 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 7: cover that and quick question for you. I know you 718 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 7: don't have much time, but you know, we've had coolish 719 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 7: weather and we've had rain, and now we're going to 720 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 7: be near a hundred. Well, I guess nothing at homeowner 721 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 7: can do or what should we be looking for. 722 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 2: No, there's nothing we can do about it. It's going 723 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 2: to come the heat and humidity. You know, mostly stay 724 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 2: out of it. There's not a whole lot you could 725 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:23,280 Speaker 2: do with gardening. Stay hydrated, Stay hydrated more than anything else. 726 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:27,280 Speaker 2: You use sunscreen, of course, do it early in the morning. 727 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 2: A lot of the gardeners at the zoo now are 728 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 2: wearing long sleeves, which seems so and you know, landscapers. 729 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 4: It seems wrong, but the shade they need for their arms, right, Yeah, 730 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 4: a lot of exposed skin. 731 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 7: Really, when you see people that have worked out there 732 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 7: for you know, fifty years older, yeahs and stuff. I 733 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 7: used to always marvel they always had long sleeves on. Yeah, 734 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 7: in jeans in the ninety eight degrees, it's like, oh, I. 735 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: Stay with jeans to me gets so hot. 736 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 2: But there are a lot of like uh uh, tactical 737 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 2: pants in you know, different fabrics now that with the 738 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 2: heat or the sweat away from you that. 739 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 7: Works real well, Well you guys go havea have your 740 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 7: concert for the rest of the day. Yeah, stay drive, We're. 741 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 2: Going to have our little glee club. We're going to 742 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 2: sing all afternoon. Thanks Gary, we'll see you in a 743 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 2: fifteen minutes or so. I want to thank both of 744 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 2: you for being here today, having so much fun. Yeah 745 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 2: and pleasure. 746 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, so much you've added to the show. 747 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 2: I want to thank Andrew Bunting from the Pennsylvania Horticulture 748 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 2: Society for also participating this morning. Joe Strecker filling in 749 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,800 Speaker 2: for Danny Gleeson, our producer this morning. Thank you to Joe. 750 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 2: Thank you to the listeners. I couldn't do this without you. 751 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 2: I hope you enjoyed the show. And we'll be back 752 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 2: next week with Mark Wessell again and I think Joe 753 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 2: Boggs working on it. Not getting an answer anyway, Stay 754 00:42:51,640 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 2: tuned for Gary Sullivan. Next we'll be rights to the 755 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:03,720 Speaker 2: bat 756 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 3: Pastures to be a snake.