1 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: All right, welcome aboard. You're at home with Garry Sullivan 2 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: and thanks to Beth Harper for joining us. A lot 3 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: of good information there, and obviously we need to have 4 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: her on for like eight hours. I think. 5 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: If you can do it that long, Gary, let's do 6 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: it well. 7 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: She's got a lot to say and a lot of 8 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: great information. But if you take a you know, a way, 9 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: one thing at least what I take away is you 10 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: know you're betting on coverage, right, and a lot of 11 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: the coverages for an incident. It's not maintenance. And I 12 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: know that has been evolving and it's very true. Not 13 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: saying it's right or wrong, that's just what it's going 14 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: to pay. So that's kind of the facts and kind 15 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: of where we are. So hopefully you got that kind 16 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: of that idea along the same way, we're responsible for 17 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: the maintenance in our homes and that's what we talk 18 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: about every weekend. 19 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: And that podcast will be up in a bit, give 20 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 3: it about a half an hour. 21 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: Very good ocasions mist it. That's a good info. So 22 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: I want to circle back just for a minute and 23 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the frozen pipe. That one 24 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: still troubles me. With the fellow that I was talking to, 25 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: because we really kind of ran, you know, out of 26 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: time to really complete that answer. But I do want 27 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: to say, and we never got to this point, is 28 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: you know, shutting the water off. I'm assuming he did, 29 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: but I didn't ask that question shutting the water off 30 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: that went to that farac it because it's not functioning, 31 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: so we don't want it to be under pressure in 32 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: case that pipe burst. Usually, if it's an old garden faucet, 33 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: usually inside that wall maybe goes in and then it 34 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: goes down into a basement or cross space or something. 35 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: There's another valve that controls the water flow to that 36 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: outdoor in the garage faucet. Shut that off, take that 37 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: little cap off, and that'll bleed the water out of 38 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: the line you just shut off. Nothing's going to freeze anymore, 39 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: all right. But if the water in there is frozen, 40 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: it's not going to bleed out right, And the only 41 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: way you're going to thaw it is to And I'm 42 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: not saying it couldn't be a malfunction with the faucit either. 43 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: I'm just we're going with the assumption of that it's 44 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: frozen and the only way, the only way to thaw 45 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: that is to get get warmth to it. Now you 46 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: can let mother nature start providing a warmth. You can 47 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: see what the temperature is in that garage. Maybe it'll 48 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: thall itself. If you got the water shut off that 49 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: that that's fine. I mean, you're not gonna have a 50 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: bursted pipe. That's good. If you want to get warmth, 51 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: cut in dry walls, cheap dry walls, easily repaired. Cut 52 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 1: that cut an opening above that fossil, Get a hair 53 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: dryer in there and start warming that up and see 54 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: if you can fall that leave that. You know, it 55 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: sounded like he couldn't even open up that valve so 56 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: and he put heat on that valve and he wasn't 57 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: getting anywhere on that. So I kind of think maybe 58 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: that valve and that stem is just jammed. Maybe a 59 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: little lubricant. So I'll leave that alone. But for falling purposes, 60 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: mother Nature's going to do it. Or you've got to 61 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: get heat in there, whether it's you know, a hair dryer, 62 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: whether it's a heat gun on low, something along nose lines, 63 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: just to fall that. You don't ever ever want to 64 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: use an open flame. Okay, I hear people talk about 65 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: that all the time, but We don't ever want to 66 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: do that. First of all, it's too hot, and if 67 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: that's water in there, and it will make your problem worse, guaranteed. 68 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: All right, eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. 69 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: That's our phone number. Let's go to Rick Rick. 70 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 4: Welcome, Hi Gary, thanks for taking my call. 71 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: You're welcome. 72 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 4: I was listening on the podcast and you were talking 73 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 4: about letting water through the basement to come in and 74 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 4: take care of it that way. 75 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 5: I was talking about water vapory, water vapor, right, water vapor, 76 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 5: so mean we're not supposed using like drydock anymore. 77 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: Well, it depends, It really does depend that. There's been 78 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: a lot of discussion about that. The thing is with 79 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: the dry lock is if you had a block foundation 80 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: and you had a big issue with water where it 81 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: was kind of just weeping through the block, and you 82 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: put dry lock on it, you will stop the leaking water. 83 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: But then the question, the question, quite honestly, then becomes 84 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: what happens if there's so much pressure that the dry 85 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: lock can't hold it back, then your dry lock will 86 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: begin to pee in that peel in that block could crack. 87 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: So for water vapor, you're fine, You're fine. You're stopping 88 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: that before it even enters the inside of the home. 89 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: In other words, you're not going to have a mold 90 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: problem that water vapor in there, okay, and along with 91 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: radon vapor, it's sealing it in there. 92 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 6: But if you. 93 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: Try to keep that stuff out by using a vapor barrier, 94 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: Let's say we have fiberglass insulation three and a half 95 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: inches thick. We got a vapor barrier, and it's allowing 96 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: that water to come through the fiberglass and it HiT's 97 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: plastic or something along those lines. Then that water, that moisture, 98 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: that water vapor is then trapped in that wall. That's 99 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: a different ballgame, then trapped inside a block foundation. That 100 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: makes sense, That makes sense, okay. 101 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, So what we did is we pulled down some old, 102 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 4: old paneling. This was a nineteen fifties house in the basement, 103 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 4: and we looked at the black and it's really ugly 104 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 4: and it's got some paint on it and sugly and 105 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 4: looked like water had come through, or at least vapor 106 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 4: had come through and got on the back of the panel. 107 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 4: Then we you know, we waited six months a year, 108 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 4: you know, we got all the gutters done and corrected 109 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 4: and the everything moving away from the house and it 110 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 4: doesn't seem like there's any dampness coming through. Okay, so 111 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 4: we were like, should we should we hit it with 112 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 4: dry dock and steal everything in or you know, and 113 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 4: then then you then I heard your podcast. 114 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's I don't know it is. It's it's confusing, 115 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: but I think it's really I would use the dry 116 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: lock for water vapor in sealing it out, but if 117 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: I had water that was literally weeping through the block, 118 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: I think you might feel good by putting dry lock 119 00:07:54,880 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: on there. But the problem isn't they lock. The problem 120 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: is what you corrected. You changed out the guttering, you 121 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: improved the drainage, and then it's good to have the 122 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: dry lock because you're stopping the water vapor which is 123 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: in the soil. I mean, you know, it's you know, 124 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: but if you got water running through that wall, that's 125 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: that's not a long term fix that's going to make 126 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: you feel good for a while. Eventually a dry lock 127 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: with enough pressure is gonna peel and you're gonna have 128 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: the problem because the problems outside. Right, So I always 129 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: called dry lock it's kind of an insurance policy. Okay, 130 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: it's kind of an insurance pole if you want to 131 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: minimize humidity from getting into the home right on, from 132 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: getting into the home, water vapor basically from getting in 133 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: the home. Used the dry lock. But if you've got 134 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: water that's flowing, you got a bigger problem. 135 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, you get fixed the water right exactly or inside 136 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 5: end ball? Right? Yeah? 137 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 4: So could I ask one other question? 138 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 7: Sure? 139 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 4: We I bought a house that has a inline duck 140 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 4: system that's working like as an air exchanger, and it's 141 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 4: got like uh uh, I don't know. It's it's down 142 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 4: to the floor and it's got a duct and you 143 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 4: can put it from very little air changing to a 144 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 4: jet propelled change. Is this still okay? Is you know 145 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 4: it's it's basically an inline duck going to an outside source, 146 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 4: you know, outside the house. 147 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: Okay. So it's it's allowing air to come in that duck. 148 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: It's outside. 149 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 4: No, it's it's taking the air from the basement, similar 150 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 4: to one of your your sponsors, from the floor and 151 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 4: it's it's like a four inch duck that's that can 152 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 4: take air out. 153 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: It's is there some pulling that air out? Is there 154 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: a fan or something? 155 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's an inline motor okay, line duck like where 156 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 4: you would take like where your ductwork was working, needed 157 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 4: to work extra. It's an inline motor, okay. It takes 158 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 4: that air out of the basement okay, and is going 159 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 4: to a four ine outside duct. And I was just 160 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 4: a little bit concerned about that. 161 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: Just well, uh yeah, yeah, I would. I guess I 162 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: can't answer that without knowing the cfms, how much cubic 163 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: feet admitted the air is moving. But I like the 164 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: whole idea rick, and it is kind of along the 165 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: same concept that an easy breathe is working. It's a 166 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: contained unit, but it is a very slow CFM where 167 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: you're not even going to in some cases, I can't 168 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: even hear mine. But Doug Garnet, I know it works 169 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: because I got you know, like everybody's basement. You know, 170 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: you have higher humidity in the summertime, and I put 171 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: it on a very lower speed in the winter time, 172 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: and I really watch it and measure its effectiveness by 173 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: control of the humidity and not getting it too dry, 174 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: which is also covering all the other aspects that we 175 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: talk about. So you know, I would put a you know, 176 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: a gauge down there and just monitor my humidity. But 177 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: I think overall, having a very slow exchange of air 178 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: from the basement out and letting the air on the 179 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: other floor above it filter down, it would be effective. 180 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, yeah, I just you know, I didn't 181 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 4: know if you know that. I'm sure that wasn't the 182 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 4: idea of that motor, but I was like, so that's 183 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 4: why I had the concern. 184 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 5: Put it that way. 185 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, all right, thank you very much, appreciate it. 186 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: You're holiday you too, Thank you very much. All right, 187 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: let's take a break. 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Well, it's fall and that means 219 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: smart homeowners are preparing their homes for winter, especially they're plumbing. 220 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: Hi this Scary Salvin for Roto Router plumbing and water cleanup. 221 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: I want you to go outside, unscrew your garden hose 222 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: and check those outdoor faucets for drips. Listen. If they're 223 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: leaking now, they could freeze and burst this winter, causing 224 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: expensive water damage and plumbing repairs. The time to fix 225 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: dripping hose bibs is right now. Call Rotor Router at 226 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: one eight hundred get Roto for fast, reliable plumbing service. 227 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: All right, back at it, we go at Home with 228 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: Garysalvent taking your calls regarding well little winter weather protecting 229 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: our homes, that's for sure. I've got plenty of tips 230 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: of just a reminder if you missed the conversation with 231 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: Beth Harper that is up on the podcast It's at 232 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: Home with Gary Salvin. Danny's got it labeled beautifully and 233 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: a lot of good information if you want to know. 234 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: And I like to say this because I think it's 235 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: very true. It's the kind of redefining homeowner's insurance not 236 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: by the broker, but by the insurance companies and a 237 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: good broker, it's going to make you aware of it. 238 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: That's what I've learned. I started learning it with Beth, 239 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: and then I started learning it as we started. It 240 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: started out of really, just like she said, don't do it. Started, 241 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: how do we lower our rates for homeowners insurance? Well, 242 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: I think we didn't really lower them, but we sure 243 00:15:54,440 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: got educated to what we wanted and what was being 244 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: covered versus what we thought was being covered. I know 245 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: that sounds weird, but you know, everybody's got their fancy commercials, 246 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: and a broker, quite honestly can look at a lot 247 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: of different things for you or you know, just somebody 248 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: working for you. That's what I kind of always pick 249 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: out of it. So we appreciate her time. All right, 250 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: let's get to Bob. Bob Welcome, Hey, Gary, good show, 251 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. 252 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 6: I'm a mayor here in Fairfield, Pennsylvania, and I wanted 253 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 6: to let you know that I installed a roof twenty 254 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 6: five years ago, a metal roof and a brick out 255 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 6: nation house and I installed two hot air furnaces train 256 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 6: one in the attic and one in the basement six 257 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 6: years ago. 258 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: Very nice. 259 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 6: Now, my question is, in the attic when it's thirty 260 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 6: degrees outside, it's running about forty degrees in the attic. 261 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 6: I did install a circulation system in the attic that 262 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 6: he did partially. And my question is, should I try 263 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 6: to insulate the metal roof from the inside, you know, 264 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 6: with these half inch panels or whatever? 265 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 4: And what do you question? 266 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, what did you say the inside temperature of. 267 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 6: That attic was forty degrees? 268 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. I'm thinking to my attic. 269 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I would say, and I 270 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: don't know. I haven't been up there with a thermometer, 271 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: but I'm going to guess it's a you know, even 272 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: on a day like this where it's a little chili, 273 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: it's it's forty degrees plus. 274 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 6: I mean, there's no sense in trying to pick up 275 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 6: five or ten degrees by insulating the attic. 276 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: No, you should really think, I would say, if we're 277 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: talking about you know, ice dams and things like that, 278 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: you're really trying to minimize the heat escaping into the act. 279 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: In other words, the base of the floor. Insulating just 280 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: minimizes and heat risees. It just keeps that from getting 281 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: warmer in the wintertime. 282 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 6: Yeah. 283 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: Okay, So there's two concepts which you're probably a where 284 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: a Bob. It's it's whole house encapsulation, which isn't used 285 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 1: much in Pennsylvania, mainly in the southeast. Or it's the 286 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: you know, just insulate and ventilate. And it sounds kind 287 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: of that's what you're working on. 288 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 6: Now. This house was built in eighteen forty. 289 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I figured it was an older one when you 290 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: said you hit a system that was moving that air around. 291 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 6: Now, of course, you cannot put a d humidifier or 292 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 6: a humidifier I guess, yeah, in the attic because. 293 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: It would freeze right because of the trees or freeze. 294 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 6: No, I'm saying the water would freeze in the d humidifier. 295 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, in the very very cold part of the day, 296 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: unless you did the whole house encapsulation. 297 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 6: Got you, Okay, Now the second part is the second 298 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 6: furnace is in the basement. 299 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Bob. 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You're 346 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: at home with garri Zelda's taking your calls, were getting 347 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: your home projects and where we're. 348 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 5: Chatting with Bob. 349 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: We talked about one issue, now onto the next, Bob, Yeah. 350 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,959 Speaker 6: Thanks carry. The second is whether or not I have 351 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 6: a fan installed in the basement. The main heating system 352 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 6: is on the ceiling of the basement and it's a 353 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 6: train system. It's hot air, and of course it hates 354 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 6: the basic house. However, there was an addition built about 355 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 6: six hundred square feet going to the west side of 356 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 6: the building, and it has the kitchen in there and 357 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 6: two bathrooms. And my question is do you think a 358 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 6: fan in a space about oh maybe three meters square 359 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 6: It's hard to crawl back there to see if the 360 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 6: pipes are insulated. Does that do any good? Over six 361 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 6: hundred square feet. 362 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: Hard to tell? Really, what kind of furnace. Is it or. 363 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 6: It's a train hot air furnace. 364 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: So what's it run on? Is it electric or is 365 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,719 Speaker 1: it propane? Or natural gas? 366 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 6: Gas? 367 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: Natural gas, natural gas? And there's so the unit is 368 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: in the basement and there's a pipe that's going up 369 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: to the kitchen area, is it or you're getting that. 370 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 6: In the back of the old building built in eighteen forty, 371 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 6: there's a space like a door, let's say a small door, 372 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 6: and all the pipes run through that space, including the 373 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 6: air ducting going to heat the addition, so that crawl 374 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 6: space is too small for me to get into, and 375 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 6: I can't see if those pipes are insulated themselves. So 376 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 6: I've always just installed a fan in the hole to 377 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 6: try to blow hot air, not very hot air, but 378 00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 6: hot air into the crawl space. 379 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: Okay, So here's a theory to think of since you 380 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,239 Speaker 1: can see it and I can't. But I get what 381 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: you're trying to do. Since you can't tell if they're insulaated. 382 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: You just want to add heat into that crawl space 383 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: fan a fan blowing air into an area that's not 384 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: taking air out. It's not going to do much, okay, 385 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: because Mother nature won't allow for air to compress. So 386 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: that's the whole thing when you're talking like an easy 387 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: breed that I talk about, it's pulling air out in 388 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: a very very low CFM, and then it's pulling air 389 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: down from the upstairs. In your case, if you're going 390 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: to blow warm air in, just having a cross space 391 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 1: open would be doing pretty much the same thing as 392 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 1: a fan would be doing. You would have to be 393 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: pulling air out of that cross space to pull that 394 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: air in. 395 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, the only air moving out of that crawl space 396 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 6: would be around the fan, which is a box fan, 397 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 6: around the space where it's blowing in, around the edge 398 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 6: is blowing out. I assume the compressed air. 399 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: Well, you could try it. I mean I would almost 400 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: see the air going out of the cross space on 401 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: the other side of the cross space, and then the 402 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: air from the basement blowing into that. 403 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 6: I know what you're saying. 404 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can try it. I see if it helps, 405 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: you know. That's but I gotta kind of think not 406 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: without pulling the air out. 407 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 6: Okay, Well I've done it for X years, never had 408 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 6: the pipes freeze. So we had one four degree winner 409 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 6: last year. 410 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you got a good record going. 411 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 6: We keep trying Garry. You're doing a good job. 412 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, Thanks, Bob, appreciate it. Take care all right. 413 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: By the way, our phone number if you'd like to 414 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: get on board chat a little bit about home projects 415 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: maintenance repair. It's eight hundred eight two three eight two 416 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: five five and we got Dwight. Dwight welcome. 417 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 4: Hello. 418 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 8: I live in Arkansas and I have a problem. We 419 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 8: have a problem, of course, are people that put a 420 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 8: roof on our house. Uh didn't really do what they 421 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 8: should probably should have done in the valleys, you know, 422 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 8: to prevent the ice a freezing and creating it down 423 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 8: and leaking and backing up and leaking into the house. 424 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 8: And I was just wondering if there was any way 425 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 8: that Feller could at his president time cha Ker correct 426 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 8: that now. 427 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: Not until that ice is removed. I mean, has this 428 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: been an always problem, Dwight? I mean, do you usually 429 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: always had a probably a bad winter or something along 430 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: those lines. 431 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 8: Well, uh, uh, actually, fur as that goes, Uh, it's 432 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 8: been a few years since we really had that problem. 433 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 8: You know, it has done it since it was a 434 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 8: house that we bought, uh a few years ago and everything, 435 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 8: and uh, the thing about it is you know it 436 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 8: has done it one time. At one time we had 437 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 8: a bad winter and you know, it had some snow 438 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 8: and ice and everything, and of course that one valley 439 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 8: is in the area where they don't didn't get a 440 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 8: whole lot of sun, don't get a whole lot of sun, 441 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 8: and it stays there for a while and everything. The 442 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 8: ice will melt maybe a little bit up on top 443 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 8: of up up the valley some and the water will 444 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 8: run down and it'll hit that ice. And when it 445 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 8: hits that ice, when it just backs up and it 446 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 8: runs out of the roof and leaps right. 447 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: So you know, I've got a similar They got a 448 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: similar situation at my house, though i haven't had the issue. Okay, 449 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: I've got a pretty steep valley between a roof and 450 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: another part of the structure of the house, and of 451 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: course we have some good step flashing going up the 452 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: side of the house to prevent that, and then we 453 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: have a kind of it's called a saddle where it's 454 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: a flashing it's a metal rather than you know, shingles, 455 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: which the snow does stay there a while, but it doesn't. 456 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: I've not had any issues with with the water backing 457 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: up and getting in the house, so you know, until 458 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: we remove that ice and snow in there, there would 459 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: be some things we could do then. First of all, 460 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: if you do have a saddle in there, a metal saddle, 461 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: we might want to even inspect that to make sure 462 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: that is properly installed and you know, it's not compromised. 463 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: We could also possibly go above that saddle and underneath 464 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: the shingling, we could install like an ice guard, which 465 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: is a rubber roof below a shingled roof. Basically that's 466 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: what that is. Or there's also some roof and gutter 467 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: cables where it creates a temperature of around thirty eight 468 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: degrees in that saddle or along that flashing or gutters, 469 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: which would melt it and keep it from freezing because 470 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: it's in a really shaded area now well, having its 471 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: curious to. 472 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 8: Know whether or not that there was some kind of 473 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 8: sailor a clear sailor that you can spray on top 474 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 8: of the on top of the shingles, you know, in 475 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 8: that gutter area in that valley area to keep it 476 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 8: from water from leaking through. 477 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: It, because it's probably yeah, it's probably or it's not 478 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: leaking from the top of the shingle it's getting underneath 479 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: the shingle, and it's my guess is it's leaking between 480 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: the bottom side of the shingle and the tar paper. 481 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: That's where water is entering. 482 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 8: See, of course it's just creating a dam and the 483 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 8: water is running back underneath the angle or right, So. 484 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: We have to remove we have to remove the dam. 485 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: That's the bottom line. And then we've got to prevent 486 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: that dam from forming. And that's the issue because it's 487 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: steep and it's it's shaded, and the snow naturally collects 488 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: there and then the warmth of that house is warming 489 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: underneath where that dam is, and it starts melting and 490 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: there's nowhere for that water to go and actually migrates 491 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: up the roof, underneath the shingles and into the house. 492 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 8: Yeah. Better, of course, I'm just talking. He had it. 493 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 8: But uh, the had to put metal you know, of 494 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 8: a flash and you know, underneath the shingles, you know, 495 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 8: and put them under there, or that. 496 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: It wouldn't well, you can put an ice guard underneath there. 497 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: In the meantime, you might just get some magnesium chloride. 498 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: It's not salt, it's not you know, anything with salt 499 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: and melt that I've told people many, many times, and 500 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: it's very effective. If you get like paintyhose legs, put 501 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: magnesium or chloride, magnesium chloride, thank you Gary in those time, 502 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: and then put the you know it's it's it will 503 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: it will stretch and you just lay that on the 504 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: snow dam. It'll take some time, but it will melt it. Yeah, 505 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: and keeping that clear, either by that or by a 506 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: snow rake or by you know, a heat. You're not 507 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: going to be able to put those cables up there 508 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: and create enough heat to create melt. So you know, 509 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: it's almost got to be melt through magnesium chloride or 510 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: through a snow rake. 511 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 8: Well, I just you know, I just wondered if they 512 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 8: would probably anything, you know, like I said, you know 513 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 8: when of course, whenever it is dry, you know, and 514 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 8: everything when the when the valley is dry without the 515 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 8: with ali norster're on it, you know, they maybe some 516 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 8: kind of saiver of athor could spray on that and 517 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 8: keep it from the lencoling. 518 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess not again finding exactly how that's getting 519 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: in the house is going to be hard, But my 520 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: guess is you can shingle. You could seal all the 521 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: shingles you want, but I don't think that's where the 522 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: problem is. I think it's getting underneath the shingle or 523 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: you have some flashing issues. Yeah, all right, well, thank 524 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: you much for the call, appreciate it and bread you'll 525 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: be next. We'll take a break and if you'd like 526 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: to join us, we'd certainly love to heave you. It's 527 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: eight hundred eight two three eight two five five plenty 528 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: of time to go, so grab a line. 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If 569 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 1: you missed our conversation with Beth Harper and we were 570 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: talking about insurance, you can pick that up on the podcast. 571 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: Like good information there. All right, let's go to brad Bread. Welcome, 572 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: Hi Gary, how are you? 573 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 8: I have. 574 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 7: Good I have a dilemma with a shower, and I 575 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 7: was just interested in trying to collect some advice on 576 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 7: the best method of repair. We have a shower that 577 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 7: an upstairs shower that's leaking, uh. And it's a tile shower. 578 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 7: It's leaking onto the ceiling blow uh in the kitchen. 579 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 7: And I think we've determined that the grout uh intersection 580 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 7: of the floor in the wall is not it's it's degradated, 581 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 7: it's it's it's not in the greatest shape. So I'm 582 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 7: interested in learning the best method of repairing that i've 583 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 7: I've cleaned. I'm trying to clean all the ground out 584 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 7: and I was initially going to use a uh a 585 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 7: calk color match calk for the grout to go in. 586 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,439 Speaker 7: But in cleaning this out, it's a very large there's 587 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 7: it's not level. You know, there's gaps that are quarter 588 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 7: inch on one end and none at the other, that 589 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,240 Speaker 7: type of thing. So what's the best method of repair? 590 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 7: I was going to buy a grout and regrout it 591 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 7: and then try to go over that with some type 592 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 7: of silicone calk, and I don't know that's the best way. 593 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: Well, you can regrout you were okay there, but the 594 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: silicon cock on top of that is not going to 595 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: look good and it's really not going to work. If 596 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: you were I'd say, well, the first thing I'd like 597 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: to do is slow you down just a second, and 598 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 1: that is are we absolutely positive that's where it's leaking, 599 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: Because shower leaks can be really tricky. You know, there's 600 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: also the top of that ceramic tile wall, which is 601 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:54,240 Speaker 1: that can be a problem. Also around the shower handles 602 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 1: where the excussion plates are. If those aren't caught. Sometimes 603 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 1: you shower water, water bounces off, rolls down the wall, 604 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 1: gets behind it, that drips down and causes a leak. 605 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: There's numerous other places. But if if you're positive that's 606 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: where it is, that's fine, then well we're not. 607 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 7: We're not positive, but it's it's likely that it's there. 608 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 7: I don't think it had a membrane. I don't know 609 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 7: when it was built. We just bought the house, and 610 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 7: I don't think there's a membrane in it. And you know, 611 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 7: so we're kind of guessing at this point, and the 612 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 7: most likely this is the most likely problem because it 613 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 7: doesn't leak that much until you plug the drain up 614 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 7: and then it pours. 615 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: Okay. I was just getting ready to say, do a 616 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: water test in that area, and you know, if you're 617 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: getting a leaked in, that's about as positive as you're 618 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: going to get. I mean, still likelihood. You know it 619 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 1: could be somewhere else, but that that kind of really helps. 620 00:38:54,040 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 1: So I think if you were gonna use I think 621 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: you have the two options. You can get a little 622 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 1: grout saw. You can cut all that grouting out. You 623 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: can get a grout mix and regrout that area all possible. 624 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: Unsealed grout has a a water penetration rate of about 625 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: three percent. A sealed grout has a water penetration of 626 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: about one percent, which means you're you're not gonna have 627 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: an issue. So that would be option one. Okay, putting 628 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: sealing silicone over, that's it's you're not gonna be happy. 629 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: The other option is cut the cut the grouting out 630 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: and then come back with uh, you know, you can 631 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:53,240 Speaker 1: use your silicone then without doing the grout. I would 632 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: rather you use like a a siliconized latex. That makes 633 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: one called quick seal. You probably seen the hardware store 634 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: a thousand times. It's much easier to apply. It's water soluble, 635 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 1: so if you get down to a point where you 636 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: just can't put it into that crevice anymore, you can 637 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: literally take a wet cloth and wipe it away. So 638 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: I think those are your two options, and I think 639 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 1: they start and stop with both of them. 640 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:33,280 Speaker 7: Okay, all right, So you're so you're thinking a quick seal, 641 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 7: and I guess they probably have that color matched. 642 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: Well it you know it. You might get a couple 643 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: of colors. You're not going to get an array of 644 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: colors like you're going to get with grouding. Okay, so 645 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna get a you know, if you've got a 646 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: chocolate brown, you're probably gonna be putting in a wide 647 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: or a beige caking. If you're grouting it and you've 648 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 1: got chocolate brown grouting, you can probably put in chocolate. 649 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: I'm grouting. 650 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 7: So you think the most likely, the most likely, uh 651 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,760 Speaker 7: way to fix this would be not not to replace 652 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,240 Speaker 7: the grout, but just to go back in one hundred 653 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 7: percent with the DAP quick seal. 654 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I would just get as much of 655 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: that groud out of there as you possibly can and 656 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: then put in a beat of grouting from. 657 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 7: There, a beat of calking from there. 658 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:27,879 Speaker 5: Yeah. 659 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: So once you once you, once you get the grouting out, 660 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: you'll see the crevice. Then I want you to take 661 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 1: some rubbing alcohol and a Q tip all right, and 662 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,800 Speaker 1: really work that crevice with the rubbing alcohol and the 663 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: Q tip out of work as a cleaner and also 664 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: a drying agent, and then let it drive for you know, 665 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: a half hour or so and then come back with 666 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: you know, your quick seal and just put a beat 667 00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:00,760 Speaker 1: of cacking in there. Thank you very much, all right, Brat, 668 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 1: thanks good luck. I know that's challenging, and it's just 669 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,240 Speaker 1: you know, if the grounding does give you the ability 670 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:13,879 Speaker 1: to make it look like the rest of the wall, 671 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: it is never you know, water tight, water proof if 672 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: you will, there's always some absorption, but the minimal absorption 673 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 1: on the grout is the grout is going to get damp, 674 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,759 Speaker 1: there's not going to be enough for water to get 675 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: behind it. You'll probably have a better chance of matching it. 676 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 1: And uh. The only trouble with the grout too, is 677 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: there's different types of grout there sanded and there's non 678 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 1: sandy grout. So the sandy grout would be more for 679 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: wider grout lines. And when you get down to that 680 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,320 Speaker 1: sliver where you can hardly slip a piece of paper 681 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 1: in there, that that that's grouts, that sandy grout's not 682 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 1: gonna work. It's gonna be too coarse. So then you'd 683 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: have to switch to you know, you know, then you'd 684 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: have to switch to a non sandy grout. And and 685 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,879 Speaker 1: by the time you do that. You just better off 686 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 1: clean it out the best. You can put a good 687 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 1: beat of cocking in there. And the silicone is just 688 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: very difficult to it's it's not it's not nimble. I 689 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: mean it's hard to apply. Whereas the acrylic, silk and 690 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:27,240 Speaker 1: iceed cocking it's more nimble. It can do smaller lines. 691 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: It could even be painted if you were really finicky 692 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 1: where you want to get an artist rush in there 693 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 1: and painted. So that's another nurse. All right. We got 694 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 1: plenty of time to take your calls. If you'd like 695 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 1: to grab a line, do so. It's eight hundred eight 696 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 1: two three eight two five y five. We'll continue with 697 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,720 Speaker 1: your calls. You're at home with Garry Sullivan. 698 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,359 Speaker 2: It's the weekend and you have fixed questions. 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