Speaker 1: Don't want to be an American.
Speaker 2: Scott's Flowing Show.
Speaker 3: This is seven hundred WLW on this election day where
Speaker 3: we find out the future makeup the future of the
Speaker 3: city of Cincinnati. It's a big one here with the
Speaker 3: mayoral race being decided between Aftab Pureval and Corey Bowman,
Speaker 3: and of course city council the twenty six people are running.
Speaker 3: Later on the show, Mike Wiener, I was sorry, Mark Weiner,
Speaker 3: let me try that again. Aaron Weiner, my name's messed
Speaker 3: up this morning. It's the time change and the lack
Speaker 3: of caffeine. I'm gonna go with that. Aaron Weiner's on
Speaker 3: his consul candidate. We'll talk to him in the ten
Speaker 3: o'clock our a ten o six this morning. I mean again,
Speaker 3: just one of the many people who are vying for
Speaker 3: nine seats to change the makeup. I you know, projecting here.
Speaker 3: I think Aftab wins. Well, interesting to see how much
Speaker 3: Corey Bowman does and bites into that lead. And I
Speaker 3: think Aftab's feeling it for sure from a really really
Speaker 3: good fight, a Velian fight, Corey Bowman. But you know,
Speaker 3: pushing that boulder up the hill in deep blue Cincinnati,
Speaker 3: that's a tough one. I think that I could be wrong,
Speaker 3: but it feels to me like counsel of the one.
Speaker 3: They're the ones in jeopardy at this point too, because
Speaker 3: people are feeling the pain and the crime and generally
Speaker 3: make people held accountable, if not the mayor, certainly counsel.
Speaker 3: And it fits in too because this is kind of
Speaker 3: like the October surprise, if you will, actually the November surprise,
Speaker 3: and that is the shooting on Saturday, four people shot
Speaker 3: outside Privy Nightclub and OTR are at one o'clock in
Speaker 3: the morning, and of course you know the one in
Speaker 3: Carthage as well, and you know seven people are shot
Speaker 3: in one dead. That generally gets people's attention and it's
Speaker 3: just a steady but drumbeat of violence. I shared on
Speaker 3: my social feed Facebook and at ex at Scott Sloane
Speaker 3: video of a man who found a gun outside Privy
Speaker 3: Nightclub literally hours after the crime scene tape was cleared,
Speaker 3: and it's so, I guess, indicative of what the situation
Speaker 3: is right now and how dire it is in Cincinnati,
Speaker 3: you know, handguns, maybe even using the crime or laying
Speaker 3: literally steps away from where the investigation was and joining
Speaker 3: the show this morning is a man who founded the
Speaker 3: gun and we're going to not use his name by
Speaker 3: request because of well the people involved here makes I
Speaker 3: would do the same thing. Welcome to the show. How
Speaker 3: are you good?
Speaker 4: How you doing?
Speaker 3: I'm doing fine. Appreciate the time you finally what time?
Speaker 3: I mean, you live right around there. Let's set that
Speaker 3: up to you. It's not like you know, you're outside
Speaker 3: the city and just happened to be walking down the street.
Speaker 2: You live like near there, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I live at block away, I mean to established
Speaker 5: kind of you know who I am, and I've lived
Speaker 5: literally a block.
Speaker 1: Away for fifteen years.
Speaker 5: So I moved down over the Ryne fifteen years ago,
Speaker 5: and you know, I kind of had this this business
Speaker 5: idea that I was going to start buying abandon property
Speaker 5: and fixing them up and rent them as apartments and
Speaker 5: you know, kind of contributing to the you know, the
Speaker 5: presidence that you know a lot of people have seen
Speaker 5: the neighborhood undergoing, and that's exactly what I did.
Speaker 1: So I've seen I've seen it all, you know, I've
Speaker 1: you moved.
Speaker 3: There for opportunities, like hey, you know there's money to made.
Speaker 3: Fifteen years ago, this great renaissance which we need to
Speaker 3: long overdue. I've lived here for over twenty years, and
Speaker 3: in downtown was nothing for many years, and all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, we have this renaissance downtown you want to
Speaker 3: be part of that makes some money investing in the neighborhoods.
Speaker 2: Everybody wins.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was it was cool living. You know, it
Speaker 5: still is cool sometimes living over there one. I mean,
Speaker 5: I live, you know, literally right next to I was
Speaker 5: there before rhine Geist, which is kind of crazy to
Speaker 5: think about. It was just an abandoned warehouse when I
Speaker 5: moved in, and uh, you know, a block from Family Market,
Speaker 5: and you know, really what's happened is so when I
Speaker 5: you know, when when a block is kind of undergoing
Speaker 5: a resurgence or a renovation, a lot of times what
Speaker 5: happens is there's abandoned properties. And then what is critical
Speaker 5: is what what becomes of those abandoned properties? Right what
Speaker 5: goes into that storefront or into that property. And you know,
Speaker 5: in my situation, like ryan Geist, going in across the
Speaker 5: street was critical to like making my investment or my
Speaker 5: living experience a good one.
Speaker 3: And now now that feels like it's in jeopard Does
Speaker 3: you feel like it's going the other way, we're reverting
Speaker 3: back to when you first moved in. It looks like
Speaker 3: we're taking steps backward relative to what's happening, literally steps
Speaker 3: away from where you live.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so let me paint a picture. So north of
Speaker 5: Liberty Elm Street, which is where I live, let me
Speaker 5: kind of paint a picture of like some of the
Speaker 5: most recent developments. So we've got the thing that Privy
Speaker 5: was a club before. So when I first moved there
Speaker 5: was a school, and after the school it became E nineteen,
Speaker 5: which was a gay club and they were awesome. We
Speaker 5: loved them, never any police problems. After that, it became
Speaker 5: Posh Nightclub or Posh, which was like an event center.
Speaker 5: I guess you could ran or have birthday parties there
Speaker 5: and then and then that closed and then that's when
Speaker 5: it was sold to the current ownership and became Privy.
Speaker 5: And so not only Privy went in. And then I
Speaker 5: don't know if you followed the shooting at stagger Lee's
Speaker 5: up in Clon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, individual flyer went back and it was like a
Speaker 3: down on a teenager fourteen fifteen with a gun, shoots
Speaker 3: his dude, tries to jack his phone or jack him.
Speaker 3: He should the guy pulls a gun out himself, fires
Speaker 3: and the teenager ran a couple of steps and fell
Speaker 3: over dead. Yeah, I remember that like literally right there.
Speaker 1: You see.
Speaker 5: So they closed in Closton and now they're they're my
Speaker 5: new neighbor directly across the street. So now they're the
Speaker 5: liquor store. And that is basically backing up to the VOA,
Speaker 5: which is one hundred and forty four bed prison, just
Speaker 5: a bunch of sex offenders and murderers. And I don't
Speaker 5: I remember the Anthony Kirklin story when you know he
Speaker 5: murdered you know, he was supposed to be the VLA
Speaker 5: that the jail thought he was.
Speaker 1: At the VOA.
Speaker 5: The VOA thought he was in jail, his lost track
Speaker 5: of the serial killer, and he went and murdered a
Speaker 5: little girl.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 5: So anyway, and then you know, directly you know where
Speaker 5: I live. They're very controversial forty four unit permanent support
Speaker 5: of housing that city council. You know, it actually went
Speaker 5: all the way to the High Supreme Court, I believe,
Speaker 5: because the lot that they're building this scene of was
Speaker 5: only zone for twelve units, and they are trying to
Speaker 5: put forty four chronically addicted homeless. You know, alcohol addicted
Speaker 5: directly next to a nightclub, directly next to a liquor store,
Speaker 5: directly next to privy.
Speaker 3: There's temptatos tell you you're trying to get clean, you're
Speaker 3: trying to get sober. We're trying to rehabilitate these people.
Speaker 3: And we've put a liquor store in a nightclub right
Speaker 3: and for the literally steps steps.
Speaker 5: Away and literally like and then when I'm sitting there
Speaker 5: and you know, and I've got you know, four and
Speaker 5: five neighbors, and this is what we've been watching for
Speaker 5: the last year.
Speaker 6: It's just like, you.
Speaker 5: Know, we were doing good and you know, we're we're
Speaker 5: all taking doing cleaning up our leaves and taking out the.
Speaker 7: Trash and doing the job.
Speaker 2: And then and then.
Speaker 1: One decision after the next, and there's.
Speaker 2: Like there's no planning there whatsoever?
Speaker 8: Is it?
Speaker 3: Like, Hey, we have a we have a diabetes treatment
Speaker 3: center here and we put in a dairy queen in
Speaker 3: the food court.
Speaker 2: Well, what the hell are we doing here?
Speaker 5: And I want you to know, like We've called like
Speaker 5: like city city Hall in the mayor, Like I've called
Speaker 5: Aftab's office. I've talked to his assistant, like I let
Speaker 5: he knows that they're putting a liquor store in directly
Speaker 5: across the street from a permit support of drug addiction.
Speaker 5: How like, so like I want you to know that,
Speaker 5: like this isn't like.
Speaker 1: They're not aware.
Speaker 2: You're making them aware.
Speaker 5: So no, we've we've done our part, you know, We've
Speaker 5: communicated to them and let them know, like, hey, if
Speaker 5: the goal is to like make this neighborhood better and
Speaker 5: faifer like you know, you're you're you're keep filling his
Speaker 5: bucket up. Okay, you keep selling it up, you keep
Speaker 5: selling it up, and as we saw this past weekend,
Speaker 5: like the bucket's going to overflow, you know, and and you.
Speaker 3: Like to me, it sounds like to me, okay, we're
Speaker 3: just saying yes to everything. There's no sense of planning,
Speaker 3: but it feels good. Hey, let's get a rehab thing.
Speaker 3: This morning on the Scott's Loan Show, I've got the
Speaker 3: man on remaining anonymous here for for reasons I'm pretty
Speaker 3: obvious to everyone is that this is the guy who
Speaker 3: found the gun. If you haven't seen the video, this
Speaker 3: has found the Privy night club shooting on Saturday. Early
Speaker 3: Sunday morning, gets up for a walk in his neighborhood
Speaker 3: lives right around the block, and uh, you can see
Speaker 3: it on my X feet at Scott Sloan and you
Speaker 3: see the gun laying there right in the grass.
Speaker 2: So let's segue to that.
Speaker 3: Now, you walk for a morning, walk your day, and
Speaker 3: I think the background is important because you know you're
Speaker 3: putting money in the neighborhood. Things are great for a while.
Speaker 3: Privy comes in maybe some of these decisions, and that's
Speaker 3: been under the left, this current administration. This isn't a Cranley,
Speaker 3: this is under aft Tip. All this stuff is going
Speaker 3: on because that is the pretext for what happened on Saturday.
Speaker 3: And crime is certainly violent crime, A lot of areas
Speaker 3: is feeling out of control. Certainly property crimes are a
Speaker 3: way out of control. At this point, I think those
Speaker 3: two things are tied together. You're walking along at Sunday.
Speaker 3: But how many hours after they pulled the crime scene
Speaker 3: tape off of the Privy investigation, open the street back up,
Speaker 3: would you say that you found that gun liner?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so this is early. It was probably nine am.
Speaker 5: I didn't even know a shooting had happened. Oh Tom,
Speaker 5: I was waking up of Sunday morning. I was walking
Speaker 5: down the street and when I walked by, the first
Speaker 5: time I made a video, I'd just taken a video.
Speaker 5: We can't stand Privy because it's just been one thing
Speaker 5: after the next step for the next at the next right,
Speaker 5: I took a little video just to show like the
Speaker 5: trash that was outside, you know, I thought that it
Speaker 5: was going to be a good video to have to
Speaker 5: show like, hey, at the end of the night, this
Speaker 5: is how they leave this place, and like this is
Speaker 5: just one of the fifty reasons why, like we hate
Speaker 5: having to miss neighbor. And to turn the corner in
Speaker 5: my video into the alley right in front of you know,
Speaker 5: the establishment, and there's like, look like a murder scene.
Speaker 5: Like it was just like a giant pool of blood
Speaker 5: and uh. And so that was the first time I
Speaker 5: was like, okay, what happened to here last night? And
Speaker 5: I got on the Citizen app and I saw that
Speaker 5: four people had gotten shot and so so anyway, I
Speaker 5: looked and kind of looked at the Citizen app as
Speaker 5: to where the shooting looked like it took place around Privy,
Speaker 5: and I just walked over there and just sitting right
Speaker 5: in the grass was a handgun and so I didn't
Speaker 5: even really try to look. I just just there's just
Speaker 5: sitting right there. And so I called the cops and said, hey, like,
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys like even like look
Speaker 5: for this, but like the pistol sitting right here, it's
Speaker 5: directly This is a whole other topic. But like I
Speaker 5: saw some of the security footage. I actually went and
Speaker 5: talked to the owner who has met a few times,
Speaker 5: and he like showed me some of the security footage
Speaker 5: and like the video is crystal clear. And so if
Speaker 5: they don't make an arrest on this, like I have
Speaker 5: no idea what we're doing.
Speaker 3: How many feet would you say, from where you found
Speaker 3: the gun was in proximity to the to the front
Speaker 3: door of the.
Speaker 5: Club, So the shooting happened on the I guess it'd
Speaker 5: be the north end of Privy.
Speaker 1: There's a door.
Speaker 5: From what he said, there was a group of individuals
Speaker 5: that were trying to come into the club and they
Speaker 5: didn't want to be searched. I will give you this,
Speaker 5: Privy does have really impressive security, But it's the security
Speaker 5: is so impressive that it's it realizes how it makes
Speaker 5: you realize how alarming it is, Like these guys have
Speaker 5: bold proof vests on. They look like swat swat gear.
Speaker 5: The guys that are like searching you to get into privy.
Speaker 6: Wow, you know.
Speaker 3: So the guys who are on the front door, right
Speaker 3: the bouncers, they're dressed like paramilitary officers, paramilitary soldiers. Basically,
Speaker 3: I don't normal people like me and you and maybe
Speaker 3: folks listening look at that and go, well, there's a
Speaker 3: place I don't really want to spend my money. And
Speaker 3: if you got a dress like that to keep people out,
Speaker 3: imagine we gets through the door. Imagine what's going on
Speaker 3: behind the scenes. Because let's face well, seen this before,
Speaker 3: and this has happened in areas where we've had shootings
Speaker 3: and problems, and it's always this and I again, I
Speaker 3: don't want to false cast false aspersions here, but normally
Speaker 3: there's like, okay, there's the answer for everybody. And then
Speaker 3: the quote unquote VIP area where maybe friends, family, or
Speaker 3: people who are known to the individuals who run the place,
Speaker 3: they kind of go in unchecked that we've seen that
Speaker 3: happen before, You suspect maybe that's what's going on here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So from what I was told, there's a group
Speaker 5: I saw and they looked like they were twenty five
Speaker 5: ish years old. There's maybe five or six guys. They
Speaker 5: didn't want to get searched at the front door, so
Speaker 5: they went over to the side door and then they
Speaker 5: got really mad like when they couldn't get in. And
Speaker 5: so I don't know this series of events, but it
Speaker 5: sounds like they literally just started shooting at the building,
Speaker 5: which is insane. And it just kind of shows you
Speaker 5: the kind of people that Privy is drawing literally to
Speaker 5: my side yard, you know. And again, we've never dealt
Speaker 5: with this with Ryan Geist. We've never dealt with this
Speaker 5: with you know, Tablespoon Cooking Company or Kanji Sushi, like
Speaker 5: just all of our neighbors like this where this is
Speaker 5: the only neighbor we have. And again I want to reiterate,
Speaker 5: like this was a nightclub before now like this was
Speaker 5: a different night.
Speaker 1: And they were fine.
Speaker 6: We loved them.
Speaker 3: Because the people who are frequent and they know they
Speaker 3: can get in induce maybe some stuff that they can't
Speaker 3: get away with it Ryan guys to these other places, correct, correct.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And so this was the first weekend where this
Speaker 5: like it became really violent. But we have been calling
Speaker 5: the police and letting the city know for probably six
Speaker 5: more six plus months that like it's every weekend. So
Speaker 5: what happens is, you know, it's a problem. They're always
Speaker 5: fighting outside and then really what happens is when they
Speaker 5: let out at two am, it's just like a stampede
Speaker 5: of noise and violence. And what happens is they don't
Speaker 5: go home when they're at two am, so they like
Speaker 5: literally go outside to their car and they have liquor
Speaker 5: bottles in their cars that they probably bought at stagger Lease,
Speaker 5: and then they're just blairing their their music, you know,
Speaker 5: just part oh my front.
Speaker 2: Yard and if you call nine one, why you call
Speaker 2: it place? What's your response?
Speaker 5: You know, sometimes they come, sometimes they don't. I mean
Speaker 5: literally they'll be blocking Elm Street. I've seen like they're
Speaker 5: like three cars Wyde just in Elm Street. Girls are
Speaker 5: getting out, They're twerking, making TikTok videos in the middle
Speaker 5: elms C Street. It's it's insane. I mean, it's totally
Speaker 5: insane behavior. It's completely unsafe, and you know, honestly, it's
Speaker 5: gotten to the point where like I have a box
Speaker 5: fan that I sleep with now that it's like my
Speaker 5: only way of like trying attempting to drown.
Speaker 3: Out, and you complain and they're like, well, there's nothing
Speaker 3: we can do. We're understaffed, we're busy going after people
Speaker 3: are shooting. They're just making noise. When you talk to
Speaker 3: the mayor's office, when you and I know you've done
Speaker 3: this as a developers, a guy who's involved in investing
Speaker 3: in the city and living down there for fifteen years,
Speaker 3: what's your reaction from the mayor?
Speaker 6: So I call?
Speaker 5: And when I call the Mayor's office, I get his assistant,
Speaker 5: you know, like you can't just.
Speaker 1: Call sure and talk to him.
Speaker 5: So she answers and I, you know, I tell her, hey,
Speaker 5: you know, she screens the call, Hey what is this about?
Speaker 1: Who are you?
Speaker 5: And I say, hey, you know, my name is X,
Speaker 5: and you know, I'm calling to let you know, you know,
Speaker 5: what's going on in the neighborhood. And it's you know,
Speaker 5: and like he never he didn't, He's not going to
Speaker 5: call me. I actually know him. I've met him several times.
Speaker 5: He's actually been in my house before because I interviewed
Speaker 5: him for a video I made for somebody. But so
Speaker 5: I know him, you know, and like I've met them,
Speaker 5: and you know, honestly, this is off topic. But you know,
Speaker 5: I saw his comment yesterday he made it. I think
Speaker 5: I think it was Channel twelve or somebody got him
Speaker 5: and they and he his comment was something along the
Speaker 5: lines of in light of this historically violent behavior, and
Speaker 5: he blamed it on housing, not to comment.
Speaker 9: You hear it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, it's all these other factors. You know,
Speaker 3: we just love criminals, criminals what they do. It's like now,
Speaker 3: now we've got criminals that are victims themselves, and so
Speaker 3: you don't understand and like, well, I'd love to see
Speaker 3: his attitude if people were doing that next to his
Speaker 3: house where he was trying to live. But of course
Speaker 3: that's the problem with a lot of these folks, and
Speaker 3: especially progressive like this, is that they live in glass
Speaker 3: houses and then cast dispersions on everyone else who wants
Speaker 3: to clean up the streets. You don't understand the problem.
Speaker 3: It's a problem. It's a problem they lived in because
Speaker 3: that crap is not happened. Next after that, Pureval, real
Speaker 3: quick before I let you go, because we only got
Speaker 3: a second or two here. You found the gun literally
Speaker 3: hours after the investigation cleared it. Privy, they cut the
Speaker 3: crime scene to when you called nine one one. I know,
Speaker 3: they probably didn't tell you that they came and got
Speaker 3: the gun. Do we think it was used in that
Speaker 3: shooting or this is unrelated? Because you know, I think
Speaker 3: people look at this and go, did they did the
Speaker 3: investigators miss picking that gun up off the street or
Speaker 3: was it used somewhere else or just happened to be
Speaker 3: There's so much gun violence around there that people just
Speaker 3: randomly throw their guns there the zero.
Speaker 5: Percent chances gun is not involved in the crime. So
Speaker 5: I don't know if you if you want to look
Speaker 5: on the north side of Privy, there's bullet holes all
Speaker 5: over the cinder block. So they just started shooting up
Speaker 5: Privy and this gun. I mean, based on the bullet
Speaker 5: holes that I saw in the center block and like
Speaker 5: the angle of them, it looks as if they literally
Speaker 5: shot directly across the street and that's where I found
Speaker 5: the gun.
Speaker 1: And and so I mean, how could that gun not
Speaker 1: be involved?
Speaker 3: How did you ad miss that? That's a bigger question
Speaker 3: for the police department. Is that's not a good look?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, And it was kind of weird. They
Speaker 5: just sent one one. I'm an officer. She came and
Speaker 5: just like put on gloves, picked it up and they
Speaker 5: didn't like pick photos or anything. They just she just
Speaker 5: like took it and put in her car and just
Speaker 5: left and it was like okay. And then you know,
Speaker 5: they called the fire department because in the alley there
Speaker 5: was like what looked like a homicide scene. So the
Speaker 5: fire department came and cleaned out all the you know,
Speaker 5: bleached all the blood out, and it was just it
Speaker 5: was a weird morning.
Speaker 3: I was just well, I mean, you're watching you invested
Speaker 3: so much in your neighborhood and now you're seeing it
Speaker 3: fall apart because of these broken policies and promises and
Speaker 3: ideas that people who prey on others are not predatory
Speaker 3: sociopaths and criminals, they're victims themselves, and this is what
Speaker 3: you wind up getting.
Speaker 2: Sadly, Are you thinking of leaving?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 1: I mean that's a good question. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean I'm not gonna, like I'm heavily invested in
Speaker 5: the neighborhood. I'm not going to sell all of my property,
Speaker 5: but like my personal living situation, yeah, I mean I
Speaker 5: get the topic.
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got a waigh that your safety security, they
Speaker 3: be able to to sleep for eight hours, you're crying
Speaker 3: out loud.
Speaker 2: Well, I gotta go.
Speaker 3: I'm really late, but I appreciate just sending the video
Speaker 3: and of course your insight to this because you're living
Speaker 3: You're not living the dream, You're living the nightmare.
Speaker 1: All the best to you. Thanks again, yep, thanks you
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 3: Don't want to just keep stay anonymous because he fears
Speaker 3: retribution from the people at the nightclub that he wants
Speaker 3: shut down your reaction all this on this election day
Speaker 3: of all things five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand.
Speaker 3: We'll get your thoughts in just minutes slowly seven hundred
Speaker 3: wid Scott dark on seven hundred wlw oh yes, the
Speaker 3: time change. You wake up, it's dark outside, you get
Speaker 3: home from work, it's dark outside, just darkness and developing
Speaker 3: like we need this right now.
Speaker 2: Well, all the bad news in the world, it just
Speaker 2: makes things worse.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 3: Doctor Catherine Athens is a expert in this area and
Speaker 3: author of numerous books. And there's a connection between the
Speaker 3: darkness and our mental health. We all know about this,
Speaker 3: but what new information is there out there? And how
Speaker 3: do you cope with it? As we lose time hour
Speaker 3: this weekend? Doctor Catherine, good morning, how are you?
Speaker 10: I'm fine? Thank you, good morning, thanks for having me,
Speaker 10: and good morning to all your listeners as well.
Speaker 3: I'm already just thinking about the time change, getting depressed.
Speaker 3: I know, it's funny when I was younger, I mean,
Speaker 3: I love cold weather, love the snow and all that stuff,
Speaker 3: But the the fifteen hours of darkness a day, it
Speaker 3: really has an effect. The older I get, the worst
Speaker 3: it is. Is there a connection with any age and
Speaker 3: lack of sunlight?
Speaker 10: Well, we don't get as much sunlight when we get older,
Speaker 10: do we. We're not outside playing all the time. You know,
Speaker 10: kids are outside, We tell them go outside and play.
Speaker 10: And although you know, with a digital age it may
Speaker 10: have changed a lot, but adults are behind the desk,
Speaker 10: usually sitting under a fluorescent light, which is not good
Speaker 10: for the brain at all. And usually we're sooped over,
Speaker 10: we're dehydrated. We're drinking coffee to stay away, or maybe
Speaker 10: eating that nice jelly donut, and we're just trying to
Speaker 10: brace ourselves to get through the day. So the thing
Speaker 10: to do in the morning is to drink some warm water.
Speaker 10: You can drink it with lemon. You can put a
Speaker 10: little bit of apple cide or vinegar in there, which
Speaker 10: is good for cleaning the kidneys and the liver, which
Speaker 10: are two organs that help get rid of poisons. So
Speaker 10: why do we get depressed? We become over poxified in
Speaker 10: our bodies because we're stationary and the things we eat
Speaker 10: aren't necessarily nurishing. They taste good, though, So I tell
Speaker 10: people think about the basics. Think about doing some deep breathing,
Speaker 10: starting your day with an affirmation of something positive. Think
Speaker 10: about that during the day and sip water. Bring a
Speaker 10: water bottle or water container, sip it all day. The
Speaker 10: brain needs water to function, and most of us are dehydrated, especially.
Speaker 3: When you're inside and the air is dryer, it's not
Speaker 3: as humid. You're not, so you spend more time in die.
Speaker 3: That's why you get sick, because you're dried out. So
Speaker 3: hydration is a critical thing to remaining well in the
Speaker 3: winter months.
Speaker 2: For sure. What does a lemon do for me?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 2: How does that?
Speaker 1: Does that beat depression and the lack of sunlight?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 2: It's not vitaes vitamin C.
Speaker 10: It's vitamin C. But it also helps to cleanse the liver.
Speaker 10: And you know, God bless our livers because they're always
Speaker 10: pulling toison out of our bloodstreams for us and trying
Speaker 10: to get rid of it so it doesn't circulate so
Speaker 10: much around the body, and the limit helps the liver
Speaker 10: do that. It also helps the kidneys to function, and
Speaker 10: it helps the water to taste better so you'll drink it.
Speaker 10: So there's lots of good reasons, you know. The thought
Speaker 10: of this darkness is horrific for people. So I help
Speaker 10: people look start by getting out in the sun more
Speaker 10: often when there is sun. Try to take your lunch
Speaker 10: break and maybe take something like a sandwich that you
Speaker 10: can eat while you're slowly walking, or go to the
Speaker 10: park and sit in the sun and they have a
Speaker 10: little bite to eat. So that way you're getting more
Speaker 10: sun even though we're not getting more sun. That will
Speaker 10: help the brain a lot.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: But here's the problem here, doctor Catherine Athens. Here's the
Speaker 3: problem with Cincinnati, Ohio. Problem with Cincinnati, Ohio is we
Speaker 3: literally will not see the sun ntil opening day this
Speaker 3: year when the red started, and even then that may
Speaker 3: be again, but there may be a couple hours. I
Speaker 3: think in the next six months we'll see the sun.
Speaker 3: But it's just a mere rumor. It's actually a lot
Speaker 3: of people right around April start to question whether or
Speaker 3: not the sun actually exists, if it's not just one
Speaker 3: of those Internet rumors or a myth or fake news
Speaker 3: or something like that, because we're pretty sure after by
Speaker 3: the time we get through February that the sun just
Speaker 3: doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 10: Okay, all right, Well, there are things you can do.
Speaker 10: There is something called full spectrum light bulbs that you
Speaker 10: can buy and replace your light bulbs at home with
Speaker 10: the full spectrum because part of the seasonal effective disorder,
Speaker 10: that depression, is we're not getting some of the spectrum
Speaker 10: of the sun. If you're really bad off, there are
Speaker 10: machines that you can buy. They're not too expensive, and
Speaker 10: they will you can sit have them sit in front
Speaker 10: of you. You can watch TV or listen to the
Speaker 10: radio and they will project full spectrum light at you.
Speaker 2: Okay, how many how many hours?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 3: My wife got me one last year a Christmas. I
Speaker 3: said I'm gonna try. I never used it because I'm
Speaker 3: just naturally positive. As you can tell here.
Speaker 4: I am.
Speaker 3: I'm a national treasure, is what I am, doctor, And
Speaker 3: I have a user. Yeah, I plan on maybe cracking
Speaker 3: that thing. Now, how long? How many hours a day?
Speaker 3: If you've got the happy light as they call them.
Speaker 3: They're pretty cheap. You can get on Amazon too. I
Speaker 3: didn't know about the light bulbs. You could put full
Speaker 3: spectrum light bulbs on the same thing. So if you
Speaker 3: got your I don't know, your easy chair next to
Speaker 3: your coucher, you know light next year couch light, use
Speaker 3: that when you're sitting there watching TV.
Speaker 2: How many hours a day do you need that though.
Speaker 4: Not very many.
Speaker 10: Actually you could start off with maybe two, one in
Speaker 10: the morning and one in the evening, you know that,
Speaker 10: maybe two If you don't have two, start off with
Speaker 10: twenty minutes a few times a day if you're home,
Speaker 10: but at least twenty minutes okay at a time. And
Speaker 10: it's really very useful. It helps a lot. It helps
Speaker 10: to retard that sad kind of syndrome in the winter
Speaker 10: with no light. Another thing is, if it's too cold
Speaker 10: to go outside, do some aerobic exercise inside. Get the
Speaker 10: blood going through your body, you know, get circulation going
Speaker 10: along with the light, and that will help the feeling
Speaker 10: of sadness and depression. It will actually make you feel better.
Speaker 3: More positive.
Speaker 2: Well, exercise is good for you.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know it's in the days that if
Speaker 3: I go a few days between workouts, I noticed I
Speaker 3: start to get little more tired and irritable than I
Speaker 3: normally am, and it's because I'm missing my workout. So
Speaker 3: I get that Doctor Katin Athens on the show this
Speaker 3: morning on seven hundred WLW got the time change. We
Speaker 3: lose an hour, and now darkness will encompass us and
Speaker 3: develop us here for the next five months roughly in Cincinnati,
Speaker 3: we won't see the sun maybe for a couple of minutes,
Speaker 3: I think, in the next five months here too. Some
Speaker 3: may say the sun was cut out in an extreme
Speaker 3: some sort of extreme budget cut or something like that,
Speaker 3: and or maybe the sun was captured and stolen by aliens,
Speaker 3: or we just don't get so you will not see
Speaker 3: the sun for quite some time in Cincinnati that south
Speaker 3: is Does that effect your sleep then too? I know
Speaker 3: that sun and sleep generally are at odds with one another,
Speaker 3: but does it mess with their sleep cycle too?
Speaker 10: It absolutely does. Our sleep cycle or circadian rhythms all
Speaker 10: get off. So I ask people to go to bed
Speaker 10: that hour earlier, even though it says, you know, it
Speaker 10: says four o'clock, it's actually five. So go to bed
Speaker 10: when you normally go to bed for a while, and
Speaker 10: then you can increase your bedtime maybe ten minutes each week,
Speaker 10: but go to bed, try to remain gain those same
Speaker 10: habits you have and get a lot of sleep. And yes,
Speaker 10: the sun, the sun activates trying to think of the
Speaker 10: name of the organs in the back of your head,
Speaker 10: and when you're in the sun, they're activated. When you're
Speaker 10: in the dark, they secrete melatonin. So you want to
Speaker 10: be in a dark room to sleep, but you want
Speaker 10: to have had some full spectrum light, whether it be
Speaker 10: the Happy machine or your light bulb, or for some
Speaker 10: reason there is some sunshine because that balances the brain. Now,
Speaker 10: you notice in the wintertime people become less friendly, more irritable,
Speaker 10: just because we're not moving as much and we're not
Speaker 10: drinking enough water. I mean, just think about the holidays.
Speaker 10: You don't drink all year, and you don't eat much,
Speaker 10: and suddenly you're drinking like crazy on Thanksgiving, you're eating
Speaker 10: all kinds of stuff you never eat the rest of
Speaker 10: the year, and then you feel miserable and you go,
Speaker 10: why am I feeling so bad?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm living my life like a medieval
Speaker 3: king or something. I'm eating literally just eating giant geese
Speaker 3: neck and drumsticks and I'm drinking wine and meat and
Speaker 3: I'm just having a blast. But then you feel like
Speaker 3: crap after. It's kind of like when you eat all
Speaker 3: the Halloween candy the same thing.
Speaker 10: Right, right? So don't I tell people don't use moderation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's not fun. That's no fun, though, it's
Speaker 3: it's I. I'm the other extreme though. I believe in
Speaker 3: everything in its excess. I think if you, I think
Speaker 3: it'll balance ballances. I'll work out for three straight days
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna eat for nine straight days.
Speaker 2: What about that?
Speaker 8: All?
Speaker 10: What most people do? You're right in the groove? Oh
Speaker 10: I worked out? Why am I?
Speaker 8: I mean?
Speaker 10: Wait, when did you work out last week?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 10: Okay, Well, I don't.
Speaker 2: Want to rush into anything. I could strain.
Speaker 1: Something that's true.
Speaker 10: That's true.
Speaker 3: I don't want to jump in this exercise thing. You know,
Speaker 3: well at the time change here and losing an hour sleep.
Speaker 3: It's also too trying to get your body set because uh,
Speaker 3: you know the week when they tell you the clock changes,
Speaker 3: and then it takes you a week to get your
Speaker 3: body right again. Is it better? Is it kind of
Speaker 3: like jet legs? Should you just go to bed at
Speaker 3: the same time, or yes, go to bed.
Speaker 10: At the same time. We actually gain an hour, but
Speaker 10: the hour we gain is darkness. So go to bed
Speaker 10: at the same time, get up at the same time,
Speaker 10: and then slowly work into the new time zone. You know,
Speaker 10: if you can go to bed at the same time,
Speaker 10: get up at the same time. Drink your water. Now,
Speaker 10: if you want to know how much water you should ask,
Speaker 10: take your body eight. Say you weigh one fifty divided
Speaker 10: in half, that's seventy five and those are ounces. You
Speaker 10: need seventy five ounces of water a day, which is huge.
Speaker 10: It's more than half a gallon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's something you sip on a little
Speaker 3: bit of water all day. Go I had like two
Speaker 3: bottles of water. That's not it's not for me. And
Speaker 3: then if you're active, you need even more water.
Speaker 10: For that matter, if you're active, you need more water.
Speaker 10: And so the brain doesn't function without water. It doesn't function.
Speaker 10: Functions on glucose, water and amino acids. And most of
Speaker 10: us don't get enough amino acids because we're dieting or
Speaker 10: we're eating some kind of green and we're not looking
Speaker 10: at the fact we need a variety of amino acids
Speaker 10: for the brain to function properly. But we also need
Speaker 10: each other. We need human interaction, face to face for
Speaker 10: the brain and the neural pathways to function properly. I recommend,
Speaker 10: if you do nothing else, go to the market or
Speaker 10: the hardware store, the Walmart, whatever, and start saying hello
Speaker 10: to people.
Speaker 5: Hello, how are you?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 10: Good morning?
Speaker 7: What do you hate?
Speaker 3: What if you just hate people? And is there no
Speaker 3: hope for you? Is it terminal? What's going on there?
Speaker 2: Doctor?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 10: It could be no.
Speaker 2: Ways, I say, the reels that don't go because people
Speaker 2: piss me off.
Speaker 10: Okay, well, well that's another story.
Speaker 3: There's just too many idiots in the world. I think
Speaker 3: people will listening to you, right, Sloan. There's too many
Speaker 3: idiots in the world. And that's why I tend to
Speaker 3: just stay home and eat and and be mindless of myself.
Speaker 3: All Right, we have do you think? As a doctor?
Speaker 3: And you studied this stuff again on the show this morning.
Speaker 3: It's doctor Catherine Athens, and she is an expert in
Speaker 3: the area of sleep. And we've got one in five
Speaker 3: Americans experiencing winter blues, according to the Cleveland Clinic. And
Speaker 3: they would know because there's no more depressing place in
Speaker 3: the world in Cleveland. So the Cleveland Clinic people, I
Speaker 3: would agree with them, and maybe even two and five
Speaker 3: at this point too. But she's a clinical and health
Speaker 3: psychologist and she's on the show talking about the time
Speaker 3: change here and what that means for you, how to
Speaker 3: combat with happy lights and making sure you're getting hydrated
Speaker 3: well enough and all that. Should we get away with
Speaker 3: daylight savings time in the clock four o clock back?
Speaker 10: Nonsense, you bet you we should. And in California we
Speaker 10: voted I think six years ago to do away with that,
Speaker 10: but we still have to do it. Someone isn't listening
Speaker 10: to the people over here.
Speaker 3: We have that problem here too, So it's not just Ohio,
Speaker 3: it's also California.
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, oh yeah, so you got bigger problems. What issue?
Speaker 3: But yes, time change the list of those problems you
Speaker 3: got over there, that's for dam imn sure. So yeah,
Speaker 3: it seems to me. I just keep one deddy constant
Speaker 3: time and we're good there this, you know, jumping back
Speaker 3: and forth every six months. So really, you know, I
Speaker 3: could see back in the day where you needed natural
Speaker 3: daylight in order to get stuff done. But we have electricity.
Speaker 3: Now we've had electricity at least I think for the
Speaker 3: last three or four years.
Speaker 4: I believe, well we do.
Speaker 10: But you know, the charcoal lobby wanted this daylight savings
Speaker 10: time because they found out that was another hour or
Speaker 10: so of sunlight. They make more money, the charcoal lobby.
Speaker 10: The charcoal lobby, no idea, blame them for this.
Speaker 3: Good lord, there's a big big charcoals behind all this
Speaker 3: big kings.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lobby for any you've got politicians, you'll
Speaker 3: have a you'll have a lobby.
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 3: So doctor Catherine Athrines Athens at H A N S.
Speaker 3: And thanks again for the time. And she has written
Speaker 3: of several books as a matter of fact, the latest
Speaker 3: called it The Heart Brain. And doctor Catherine Athens, thanks
Speaker 3: for coming on the show.
Speaker 10: It's my pleasure. And please everyone drink your water, don't
Speaker 10: don't push yourself. Everybody's going through this miserable time change together,
Speaker 10: so please just take your time and work yourself into it,
Speaker 10: and then a few weeks you'll you'll.
Speaker 6: Be better, hopefully.
Speaker 10: But well let's not get get out your happy machine.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: Well, the good news is we have cheap flights to Florida.
Speaker 3: If all else fails, get on Allegiance or Delta or
Speaker 3: whatever and get the hell out of town for a
Speaker 3: few days.
Speaker 2: That always helps. To doctor Catherine all the.
Speaker 10: Best, Thanks you you too, Bye bye.
Speaker 3: Now, today is the day because Sunday. Okay, time change.
Speaker 3: It's Sunday. You're watching football, the big deal. Monday rolls
Speaker 3: aren't yesterday. And now it's starting to affect you a
Speaker 3: little bit. Okay, Sun's coming up in the morning or
Speaker 3: and when I get home, it's getting dark and your
Speaker 3: mind is preparing for sure. In addition to that, today
Speaker 3: is election day, Election day. If you're in OHI, make
Speaker 3: sure you take that idea with You're gonna need it
Speaker 3: if you are going to vote. And of course that
Speaker 3: pulls open we'll get a full update on what's happening there.
Speaker 3: We'll also chat with the council candidate if you haven't
Speaker 3: voted yet. Anthony Weiner running for council one of the
Speaker 3: what twenty nine people running for counsuls some along those lines,
Speaker 3: twenty six people. It's a lot, let's put it that way,
Speaker 3: a boatload of folks. Why should you vote for him?
Speaker 3: And what he sees from an outsider's perspective. What's going
Speaker 3: on is Mayol race? Very interesting. We'll get to that
Speaker 3: just ahead here slowly seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: Do you want to be in?
Speaker 3: That is election day in the Buckeye States, not so
Speaker 3: much Indiana, Kentucky, Vainley, Ohio. Good Morning Scotland Show, seven
Speaker 3: hundred WW In New York as well. It's a big one.
Speaker 3: People are watching. We'll continue to get results. And again,
Speaker 3: polls closed in Ohio today at seven thirty. You do
Speaker 3: need an ID if you are going there. Don't forget
Speaker 3: the damn ID. You can you vote provisionally if you
Speaker 3: forget it, but it's just easy to bring it with you.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 3: So we got that going on, and maybe a reckoning too,
Speaker 3: And you kind of look at the tea leaves you
Speaker 3: see how maybe some polling's going alike in it. You know,
Speaker 3: his Aftabs race can be a little closer than he
Speaker 3: hopes it to be sure, and I think that's he's
Speaker 3: maybe sweating a little bit, maybe a little bit of
Speaker 3: pressure there, But mainly I think it's a down ticket
Speaker 3: and that would be for Counsole candidates. We have nine
Speaker 3: seats available and there are twenty six candidates, even if
Speaker 3: you include the guy that's in jail right now. And
Speaker 3: you know there's some I think there's some well thought
Speaker 3: people that might wind up losing their seated result. It
Speaker 3: just it seems to me like voters are going to
Speaker 3: maybe take this out on the existing council as opposed
Speaker 3: to the mayor, just the way things work out. One
Speaker 3: of the people seeking your vote today is that Aaron Weiner.
Speaker 3: He's a realtor, lives in Clifton and a charter Charter
Speaker 3: write a charter candidate for counsel.
Speaker 2: Aaron, Welcome to the show. How are you?
Speaker 9: Thank you for having me, glad to be.
Speaker 2: Here, appreciate it. How's a campaign going this? Now that
Speaker 2: it's over, I tell you what.
Speaker 9: I'm feeling good. I'm proud of the campaign that I've run.
Speaker 9: I've thought through it over the last seven months, where
Speaker 9: I've been, who I've talked to, who I've met, and
Speaker 9: the work I've done, and I'm feeling good.
Speaker 3: The big issue here, it's a referendum on crime, as
Speaker 3: I portrayed, and every candidate, yourself included, is really leaning
Speaker 3: into public safety this point. I'll play a clip of
Speaker 3: this a little bit later on I don't have time
Speaker 3: right now with you. I want to give you the
Speaker 3: most time possible. But at nine o'clock this morning, nine
Speaker 3: o six, I had a anonymous neighbor on A guy
Speaker 3: literally who lives in the shadows of the nightclub Privy
Speaker 3: nightclub that was shot up on Saturday night, walks out
Speaker 3: the morning after. Didn't know what was going on, said, man,
Speaker 3: there's crime scene tether stuff all over. Looks around, said
Speaker 3: there's a shooting there. So he walks down the block
Speaker 3: and literally steps away from the back door where the
Speaker 3: shooting took place, he finds a gun. I've got the
Speaker 3: video up on my feed at X at Scott Sloan,
Speaker 3: and you know, it's just that kind of lack of
Speaker 3: attention to detail. And I don't know if it's an
Speaker 3: indictment against the cops or not. We'll get their side
Speaker 3: of the store. So why that weapon was missed or
Speaker 3: maybe it's not even related to this or just laying there.
Speaker 3: But that's frightening to think that you could have someone
Speaker 3: denied access to a nightclub shoots up the place, and
Speaker 3: it's just a steady drumbeat of public safety and crime
Speaker 3: because many people, your self includive invested their resources into
Speaker 3: developing that neighborhood and the neighborhoods in Aroundincinnati. Living there
Speaker 3: and your livelihood and also your safety is threatened by
Speaker 3: the lack of attention to street criminals doing what they do.
Speaker 3: Correct you saw this in Clifton, did you not? We
Speaker 3: just had to shooting there and on Shortvine. How much
Speaker 3: of public how much do you think the voters are
Speaker 3: going to use this as a referendum on public safety today?
Speaker 9: I think it's the core issue in the city right now.
Speaker 9: I think it's been very public throughout the summer, and
Speaker 9: I think it's really it's really just a basic thing
Speaker 9: that people expect when you know from the from the
Speaker 9: cities that it's safe. It's it's what it's what attracts
Speaker 9: people to move into the city, which makes them move out,
Speaker 9: It brings them downtown, it's what brings them the neighborhoods.
Speaker 9: I mean, I think it's it's just a core responsibility
Speaker 9: and a core expectation of people in the city as well.
Speaker 9: People come visit the city.
Speaker 2: Have you seen violencers? Has it affected you or you
Speaker 2: live in Clifton?
Speaker 9: No, I mean, honestly, other than we we did have
Speaker 9: the issue with the with the hookah bar. So I'm
Speaker 9: not sure you're familiar with with that. That's been all
Speaker 9: over the news. Yeah, on the neighborhood, and I think
Speaker 9: they just they just got shut down finally. We've been
Speaker 9: working on this for two years, so, I mean, I
Speaker 9: think that's certainly been an issue that that we've we've
Speaker 9: had in my neighborhood in Clifton. You know that that
Speaker 9: brought a lot of a lot of filing activity. There
Speaker 9: was there was a gun. There was a you know,
Speaker 9: a gun that was Brandish we saw back in the
Speaker 9: summer there. As a result, Yeah, that's really kind of
Speaker 9: been the main thing certainly we've had. We've had more
Speaker 9: low level crimes. There's always break ins, but that's I
Speaker 9: think that's just normal. But the main thing that's been
Speaker 9: the hookah.
Speaker 3: Bar right right, and and uh, the previous guy, the
Speaker 3: guy was on and honestly with a gun in front
Speaker 3: of Privy. He said, you know all time today, look
Speaker 3: the club a let out. People go to the liquor
Speaker 3: store next Dora, a liquor store across the street by
Speaker 3: Laker or bring it with them, sit in their cars
Speaker 3: around their cars and basically, uh, take the club to
Speaker 3: the streets and you know, they'll be a loud music
Speaker 3: being played all hours of the night. He'll call the police,
Speaker 3: they won't show up, they won't do anything. There's not
Speaker 3: enough of them that's not prioritized.
Speaker 6: He said.
Speaker 3: You know, sometimes it takes an hour, two hours to
Speaker 3: get a response simply because they're overwhelmed.
Speaker 2: What is your plan to solve it?
Speaker 3: Because I understand it talking to officers, many more are
Speaker 3: leaving retirement, taken early retirement than more are coming in,
Speaker 3: simply because you know, if I work on a outside,
Speaker 3: you know, we talk about Alattle recruiting a class. Why
Speaker 3: would I want, maybe for a little bit more money,
Speaker 3: to risk my life, my family safety security to go
Speaker 3: fight a losing battle against crime in the streets of cincinnatiwork.
Speaker 3: Can I stay where I am? How can we incentivize
Speaker 3: police more?
Speaker 9: Well, that's that's a very good question. And I think
Speaker 9: that's why I'm on here this morning. I've with my
Speaker 9: with my team. I've done a research, it's a fifteen
Speaker 9: page plus research to recruit and retain our police officers.
Speaker 9: And you bring up a very good point, and we
Speaker 9: need to incentivize not just the police officer that we're
Speaker 9: fortunate enough to have with us now on CPD, but
Speaker 9: attract new talent as well as lateral talent. And that's
Speaker 9: a two prong approach. The first prong approach is a
Speaker 9: bonus structure. So you know, we've heard of in the past,
Speaker 9: we've heard of corporate buyouts where you pay people to
Speaker 9: actually retire early. This is kind of the reverse. We're
Speaker 9: actually going to offer bonus structures to encourage police officers
Speaker 9: to stay a year, two years, three years, with with
Speaker 9: with sizeable bonuses to encourage them to stay. And to
Speaker 9: your point, you know, with the issue we talked about,
Speaker 9: you know in the bar down talent, you know the
Speaker 9: other night, one time, sort of sizeable bonuses to police
Speaker 9: officers that might work in more stressful areas in order
Speaker 9: to incentivize them to stay. But I think these are
Speaker 9: ways of making sure that the talent that we have,
Speaker 9: that we've trained, that we respect, stays with us as
Speaker 9: we beef up our police force, which we are about
Speaker 9: two hundred down, if not more at this point if
Speaker 9: you take into consideration the growth we have in our city.
Speaker 9: So that's that's really the first prong of that, trying.
Speaker 2: To stop the bleeding, so to speak to you. Use
Speaker 2: a bad pun.
Speaker 9: There, right, exactly exactly, So wet's stay with us, work
Speaker 9: with us.
Speaker 6: We're going to.
Speaker 9: Incentivice to you. We're going we're gonna make it worth
Speaker 9: your while to stay with us. It's going to get better.
Speaker 9: And I think that's sort of the first prong of this.
Speaker 9: The second prong of this really involves my industry. So
Speaker 9: I'm in real estate. I'm in twenty been in real
Speaker 9: estate twenty five years. And when I when I started
Speaker 9: this process of running for a council, I wanted to
Speaker 9: work with what I know, and that's certainly that's housing,
Speaker 9: and that's housing. So but with that, I thought to myself,
Speaker 9: wouldn't it be great if our police officers, more of
Speaker 9: them lived within our city limits? And you know, they're
Speaker 9: not required to by law, they don't have to be
Speaker 9: required to, and I would never mandate that they have to,
Speaker 9: but like, let's sweepen the deal a little bit and
Speaker 9: encourage them to move here. And that would be sort
Speaker 9: of a recruiting, a recruiting tool for us. So how
Speaker 9: that's going to work. It's it's it's a down payment
Speaker 9: assistance program as well as a rental stipe. So the
Speaker 9: down payment situation will work like this. So let's say
Speaker 9: you saved seven thousand, five hundred dollars, We'll match seven thousand,
Speaker 9: five hundred dollars. So all of a sudden, you have
Speaker 9: fifteen thousand dollars down, and obviously you can certainly put
Speaker 9: more if you have it right, but you have to
Speaker 9: leave fifteen thousand dollars down. That's five percent, which you
Speaker 9: can do on a three hundred thousand dollars house, which
Speaker 9: is about the average price of a house incence not
Speaker 9: even right now. So I think that's it. Certainly, with
Speaker 9: the cost of housing going up, I think that's certainly
Speaker 9: a way to attract this interesting people to come to
Speaker 9: us versus maybe going to Green Township for blue ashespential downs,
Speaker 9: which might well.
Speaker 3: You don't have to incentive. I mean you can get
Speaker 3: it for So you get seven match seventy five hundred
Speaker 3: dollars for first responder, and now it covers half of
Speaker 3: a minimal day, but you got to commit to five
Speaker 3: years of residency, closing costs, preferred finance, you got a
Speaker 3: lender rental assistance program you mentioned that is it sounds
Speaker 3: to me like you're said it's like a mini VA
Speaker 3: program of programs they have federally for teachers to incentivize
Speaker 3: them to go into teaching. Now we're trying to incentivize
Speaker 3: people to go into policing.
Speaker 9: Correct, correct. And you touched on the second prong just early,
Speaker 9: which is a rental stipend. So obviously not everyone's going
Speaker 9: to want to rent or buy right away, or they
Speaker 9: mayn't have their needs to buy us. The next prongis
Speaker 9: of this is the rental assistant. So let you know,
Speaker 9: maybe give them up to eight hundred dollars of assistance
Speaker 9: to rent. We'll partner with some of our larger property
Speaker 9: property owners in the city to do that. And I
Speaker 9: think this could this could attract some of our younger
Speaker 9: people to want to come to come and work for us,
Speaker 9: because again the housing cost have gotten so high that
Speaker 9: this might be be a carrot for them to want
Speaker 9: to come work for CPT as opposed to other jurisdictions
Speaker 9: and again attract young talent for long jovity.
Speaker 3: All right, I like, so you're send him an incentive
Speaker 3: program to keep and retain the office. We have now
Speaker 3: to stem the time and go, hey, listen, be patient.
Speaker 3: Hold on a second. Here's here's some incentives for you
Speaker 3: to stay, which is always good, and then to get
Speaker 3: the lateral recruitment classes, which we need because that's fast tracked.
Speaker 3: That's already people who are police officers will pot of certified,
Speaker 3: ready to go. You're just training up for Cincinnati. It's
Speaker 3: going to take considerable less time than the recruit classes
Speaker 3: that we have, and that's going to help stem things
Speaker 3: here hopefully in Cincinnati. If Aaron Weiner gets elected to
Speaker 3: council today and he's joining the show this morning on
Speaker 3: seven hundred w OP. But I like that plan a lot.
Speaker 3: I like the fact you're a realtor. Realtors generally are
Speaker 3: good people.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 9: I appreciate I appreciate you saying that we've been compared
Speaker 9: to you know.
Speaker 3: Not no, no, no no. I'm married to a real
Speaker 3: estate broker's ie. Realtors are the best people I know
Speaker 3: for sure. Let's let's segue a little bit. And that's
Speaker 3: the public safety element of that too. Speaking of property
Speaker 3: and like, of course we all witnessed what happened in
Speaker 3: Hyde Park Square relative to the coordinated communities playing there's
Speaker 3: a huge backlash that my friends who down in Hyde Park.
Speaker 3: I'm a pro development guy, but I get the fact
Speaker 3: that you have to have some skin in the game
Speaker 3: if you have a neighbor. We shouldn't completely look at
Speaker 3: neighbors and go, hey, they have final say on everything.
Speaker 3: I think it's an important and big seat at the table,
Speaker 3: but it's a big table. How do we make sure
Speaker 3: that doesn't happen again and at the same time encourage
Speaker 3: development in the city. If you solve the crime problem,
Speaker 3: that's going to go a long way. But there's also
Speaker 3: the development angle.
Speaker 4: Here too, correct.
Speaker 9: So it's funny that you bring bring that up because
Speaker 9: I'm sitting here in my office on Hyde Park Square,
Speaker 9: which really is it's the Clubal Banker building, which is
Speaker 9: ground zero for that particular development. And you know, I
Speaker 9: think to answer your question, I think it's just it
Speaker 9: does involve just some strategic engagement, some just some discussion
Speaker 9: and and and we're in getting to yes. I certainly
Speaker 9: feel like there is a deal to be made in
Speaker 9: in that equation. And certainly I'm also being in real estate,
Speaker 9: you know, pro development, and I certainly feel that that
Speaker 9: you know that there are buildings that have higher and
Speaker 9: there are a space that have higher and better usage
Speaker 9: that we can we can work with here. So I
Speaker 9: mean my bottom line is I feel like development and
Speaker 9: growth should enhance the neighborhood and not erase it, and
Speaker 9: certainly shouldn't just place people as much as possible. I mean,
Speaker 9: Cold World Bankers is a national company. You know, we're
Speaker 9: going to be okay, but you know, some of these
Speaker 9: smaller businesses may may not have as easy a time
Speaker 9: with with this particular particular thing, and I feel like
Speaker 9: that's an important thing to think about. I think another
Speaker 9: thing that to think about with that particular scenario is,
Speaker 9: you know the apartment buildings that are here now that
Speaker 9: actually is affordable housing. I mean that's you know, below
Speaker 9: market rate rent in Hyde Park. So I mean, I
Speaker 9: think if we're going to talk about, you know, if
Speaker 9: our city is going to talk about we need affordable housing,
Speaker 9: which obviously we hear a lot, you know, why are
Speaker 9: we why are we okay with getting rid of some
Speaker 9: of the last affordable housing that you might see in
Speaker 9: Hyde Park. And I may say that because it's below
Speaker 9: market rate rent, but it's just just something that maybe
Speaker 9: people haven't talked about in that issue, which I think
Speaker 9: is so important to talk about as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I certainly neighbors need absolutely to have to
Speaker 3: have But but but I think if you and you've
Speaker 3: seen this in real estate with hoas and the smaller
Speaker 3: this is a bigger scale than that. But if you
Speaker 3: left it up basically to the neighbors to decide, I
Speaker 3: don't think you probably have any development going on, would you?
Speaker 9: No, absolutely not. I definitely feel like part of the
Speaker 9: part of that, part of that is part of that
Speaker 9: is maybe maybe tailoring exactly that's the feedback, so you know,
Speaker 9: we we here's the feedback, and here's the feedback in
Speaker 9: which in which you you know, what are your what
Speaker 9: are your main hot we're the three hot points, and
Speaker 9: how do we get to yes and not just not
Speaker 9: having this whole like broad, you know, broad discussion that
Speaker 9: might be one. They just sort of tailoring that, tailoring
Speaker 9: the different points. But also you know, I'm my my
Speaker 9: background is in real estate. I was just so I'm
Speaker 9: used to having another relator on the side, a buyer
Speaker 9: or seller. So you know, my my my whole goal
Speaker 9: is getting to yes. So I feel like you find
Speaker 9: you find the pain points, you find the places that
Speaker 9: you think you can find some you can find some agreement.
Speaker 9: Where is there some middle gramm where we can where
Speaker 9: we can grow or learn or or stretch. And I
Speaker 9: think ultimately, like in the perfect scenario, everyone feels like
Speaker 9: they've given a little more than maybe just like everyone
Speaker 9: gets compromised and we put a deal together that firsthand.
Speaker 3: And and there's sometimes where as you know in real
Speaker 3: estate deals, and sometimes you're you're miles and miles apart
Speaker 3: and literally will a few hours it all comes together.
Speaker 1: It's just it's the damnedest thing.
Speaker 3: But concessions have to be made, and that's being a
Speaker 3: good negotiator as you are Eron. That makes a lot
Speaker 3: of sense to me. It's kind of what the city needs.
Speaker 3: Final question for you is, voters go to the polls
Speaker 3: today here in the Buckeye stay till seven thirty, and
Speaker 3: it's Aaron Weiner on the show. One of the twenty
Speaker 3: six council candidates, maybe twenty five console candidates. You got
Speaker 3: one behind bars. I'll bank at twenty five, Aaron in
Speaker 3: this case. So how much has to change within the
Speaker 3: city and maybe in the mayor all race, We'll see
Speaker 3: what happens there. I think you have to have wins,
Speaker 3: but maybe a little closer than they likes. I think
Speaker 3: The consensus is going to be about what happens to
Speaker 3: council though, and how things the makeup of council changes.
Speaker 3: How much is going to have to change in council
Speaker 3: for you to get these things done? That's the big question.
Speaker 3: You may get elected, but are you pushing a boulder
Speaker 3: up the hill?
Speaker 9: Well, to be honest with you, I think that's certainly
Speaker 9: up to the voters, right, I mean, I think there's
Speaker 9: a different speculation on there's going to be two seats
Speaker 9: that might might come bake at three two three four.
Speaker 9: I think in order to have successful conversation, you have
Speaker 9: to have a balance of power. And I think if
Speaker 9: we can see a balance of power, and I think
Speaker 9: if we can see some more maturity. You know, I'm
Speaker 9: fifty six years old. I've had a lot of life experience.
Speaker 9: I've worked in both nonprofit as a volunteer. I run
Speaker 9: a successful business. I feel like if you get some
Speaker 9: maturity on council and you get some stronger personalities and
Speaker 9: maybe some different view points, maybe a little more centrist,
Speaker 9: maybe even someone who's a little more right, I feel
Speaker 9: like we'll have some more powerful conversations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, divided government is better.
Speaker 3: Real quick here if I'll let you go, Aaron, if
Speaker 3: you are in if you're on council and you're in
Speaker 3: council during the riot or during the rights, during the
Speaker 3: July twenty six beat down, the brawl, Fountain Square, what's
Speaker 3: happening in lift In and over the Ryne and elsewhere,
Speaker 3: but particular the firing Orriff Chriff Police Chief Terry Fiji.
Speaker 3: Would you ever spoken against the mayor? What do you
Speaker 3: have stepped up? Because no one in council. I'm saying
Speaker 3: maybe a couple of people I've had the show have
Speaker 3: stepped up and denounced the mayor and I was handled
Speaker 3: this whole thing.
Speaker 2: Would you have stepped up?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 9: I mean, it's such a loaded question because again, my
Speaker 9: my career has been so much about collaboration and playing
Speaker 9: nice in the sandbox now, so I've never I've never
Speaker 9: been one to necessarily want to denounce someone publicly, so
Speaker 9: you know I'd have to, you know, I just want
Speaker 9: to say, I think, I think I think it's it's
Speaker 9: it's easy to play Monday morning quarterback and look back
Speaker 9: on how things would have gone. I definitely would have
Speaker 9: liked I would like to have a united front on
Speaker 9: an issue and have some strategic front procedure on it.
Speaker 9: It's not to say that I would not come at
Speaker 9: a council or a leader if I felt that what
Speaker 9: they were doing was wrong. Would it be publicly maybe,
Speaker 9: maybe not, would it be privately absolutely?
Speaker 3: Aaron Weiner, council candidate, pulls up until seven thirty. I
Speaker 3: wish you all the best luck in the world. We
Speaker 3: do need some change within those nine members. Guarantee at
Speaker 3: least one because Victoria Parks isn't running, she said, unrightly,
Speaker 3: so we'll fill a least one seat. But I wonder
Speaker 3: how many it's going to take in order for the
Speaker 3: administration to pay attention just how serious this crime issue is.
Speaker 3: Above all alls, Aaron Alli bet good luck today.
Speaker 9: Thank you, thanks the opportunity.
Speaker 4: You, sir.
Speaker 3: I've got to get a news update in and win
Speaker 3: a return will kind of maybe a little list, but
Speaker 3: rehash the nine o'clock hour and if you missed it.
Speaker 3: I had a discussion with the neighbor found the gun
Speaker 3: in front of Privy after the after the police had
Speaker 3: already left. There's a gun, Laine and they're like, well,
Speaker 3: kind of miss this. How that fits in the grand
Speaker 3: scheme of what we're talking about this election day. Scott's
Speaker 3: Thlan show continues next and we'll get your calls in
Speaker 3: as well. On seven hundred Scott flown here seven hundred
Speaker 3: l W. I'm sure hearing that the Logan Wilson dealt
Speaker 3: by the Bengals to the Dallas Cowboys for a seventh
Speaker 3: round draft pick on this decision day in more ways
Speaker 3: than one, not all of that to the deadline for
Speaker 3: the NFL and the deadline for voters today to get
Speaker 3: out and you have the seven thirty if you're in Ohio,
Speaker 3: bring an id Witchham and got a bunch of ballots
Speaker 3: and certainly a lot of levies issues. CPS has one
Speaker 3: probably talking to folks from CPS about that tomorrow. Things
Speaker 3: are looking good for that the interesting one, and I
Speaker 3: think the eyes of the region are on Sinday. Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: That's a little of the big one.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I said, you've got some school levies and
Speaker 3: issues and school boards and stuff like that. But it's
Speaker 3: an off year election cycle and an important one though
Speaker 3: in Cincinnati because you have a mayoral race and you
Speaker 3: also have the council race. I think the mayor race
Speaker 3: have been saying it seems like that's a lock for
Speaker 3: Aftab just not if he wins, but how by much
Speaker 3: and what that means, what that message is narrow the margin,
Speaker 3: the more he's going to have to pay attention to
Speaker 3: what he's been ignoring. And that also changes his trajectory
Speaker 3: because clearly he is a guy who's in it for
Speaker 3: higher office than the mayor of Cincinnati. Kind of felt
Speaker 3: that way for a long time. There's a number of
Speaker 3: politicians are like that that they seems they're just biding
Speaker 3: their time to get a bite at a bigger apple,
Speaker 3: so to speak. But it has not been going well
Speaker 3: lately for him because, certainly on this show and others,
Speaker 3: we've been pretty much attacking him. Not because he's a Democrat,
Speaker 3: I know that's the thing is now, oh you're a
Speaker 3: Republican station and not actually true of more a libertarian,
Speaker 3: but not attacking him because he's a progressive or a Democrat.
Speaker 3: I'm at tagging him because of the policies and because
Speaker 3: what it has wrought. And this is the seeds that
Speaker 3: he sowed four years ago are now sprouting and quite
Speaker 3: only turning into weeds. At this point, thought that they
Speaker 3: may be flowers, but it turns out a lot of
Speaker 3: its weeds, and the weeds, of course, are the problem
Speaker 3: of crime. And those weeds have grown to the point
Speaker 3: where they get their tentacles or on the heart of
Speaker 3: the city at this point, and it's choking it out.
Speaker 3: First hour of the show this morning at nine oh six.
Speaker 3: If he missed it, you can catch it on the
Speaker 3: podcast following the show at the twelve o'clock today.
Speaker 2: So listen to it as.
Speaker 3: A and I had him on and people are like, well,
Speaker 3: how do we know who it is as a real person?
Speaker 2: Is it not fame made up?
Speaker 3: It's a neighbor who lives literally steps away from Privy,
Speaker 3: the nightclub, the last example of the bloodiness that is Cincinnati,
Speaker 3: the senseless violence at Cincinnati, and he lives right there.
Speaker 3: He is a real estate guy himself speaking of you know,
Speaker 3: we just had on here in Aaron Weiner, council candidate,
Speaker 3: realtor had some good ideas I think to try and
Speaker 3: get cops staying but also coming to the city of Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: But in this case, a guy who's developing the neighborhood.
Speaker 3: He's you know, renting, fixing places up, renting them out
Speaker 3: so you got some affordable housing, probably get some retail
Speaker 3: on stuff down there. His skin in the game and
Speaker 3: lives there. And he was on in the first hour
Speaker 3: of the show this morning describing what life is like
Speaker 3: down there now. And it's about Privy because it's in
Speaker 3: the backyard. But I think Privy is emblematic of the
Speaker 3: problem overall because he mentioned that, you know, years ago,
Speaker 3: you didn't have much downtown before Rhinegeist was rhein Geist
Speaker 3: and all those things, and so the wonderful development that
Speaker 3: he's a part of, and now he feels like it's
Speaker 3: slipping away. You know, if you're the person. And there's
Speaker 3: countless people, countless hundreds of people who do what he did,
Speaker 3: and that is they buy some property. They had an
Speaker 3: opportunity to buy low and maybe sell high. That's American dream.
Speaker 3: That's how he made money, put his own hard work
Speaker 3: and savings into buying properties, and that led to other
Speaker 3: properties and so on and so forth. And everything that
Speaker 3: was promised to him is like, hey, come down, you
Speaker 3: can get you can get a parcel of land, you
Speaker 3: can get a vacant building at a market or a
Speaker 3: lesson market rate. Place will incentivize you to develop it
Speaker 3: and build it in three CDC's involved on that great stuff,
Speaker 3: and we had we had this great renaissance in Cincinnati
Speaker 3: not that long ago, and you feel like it's all
Speaker 3: in jeopardy because of an unchecked criminal element, simply because
Speaker 3: we got too complacent when it came to crime. One
Speaker 3: of those was, hey, we've got enough cops. We don't
Speaker 3: need anymore. Things seem to be going well, So why
Speaker 3: are we spending all this money on fighting crime? Well, okay,
Speaker 3: see what happens when you ease your foot off the
Speaker 3: gas a little bit, and then you have policies, And
Speaker 3: this is where I would attack after abound.
Speaker 2: It's the policies.
Speaker 3: The policies are that we're going to not go after
Speaker 3: individuals because we feel that criminals are victims too.
Speaker 2: That's not true. They're criminals.
Speaker 3: And there's so many good people of all different walks
Speaker 3: of life, socioeconomic, race, creed, and color. It's not about them.
Speaker 3: It's a good people versus the predators out there. And
Speaker 3: I have a sense that the people in front of
Speaker 3: Privy are predators. Does it make a lot of sense
Speaker 3: that you shoot up a nightclub because you can't. I
Speaker 3: just doesn't make any sense. And it's disturbing because it's
Speaker 3: a quality of life issue, no, and it's also a
Speaker 3: public safe The public safety is huge, right, It's like
Speaker 3: one of the three big things that local governments and
Speaker 3: control of, you know, certainly the streets and the sidewalks
Speaker 3: and keeping the snow cleared, removing the trash. The other
Speaker 3: one is the biggest one is public safety. And if
Speaker 3: there's a p that you're not safe, you're not going
Speaker 3: to see people invest in downtown and OTR in these neighborhoods.
Speaker 3: And we need more development, not less, because we continue
Speaker 3: and continue to fall behind. And so you don't think
Speaker 3: the war is lost, but they've set it up so
Speaker 3: much by this hands off, feel good policies that it
Speaker 3: has led to where we are right now. I'm just
Speaker 3: curious as a voter, if you're there voting today, I've
Speaker 3: voted that you're going to take this out maybe on
Speaker 3: the mayor maybe you won't vote, But I think there's
Speaker 3: a lot you know, most most of Cincinnati, you're a Democrat,
Speaker 3: you're progressive. You're not going to not vote for maybe
Speaker 3: you don't vote for AFTAB. You're probably not going to
Speaker 3: vote for Corey Bowman because he's a Republican. I understand that,
Speaker 3: but at the same time, I wonder what level accountability
Speaker 3: you hold the members of council.
Speaker 2: That'll be the big one.
Speaker 3: And there's nine seats up for grabs with twenty six
Speaker 3: people going for it, and I wonder at least one
Speaker 3: because Victoria Parks is running anymore, so there's one seat.
Speaker 3: But you wonder how many more people get displaced on
Speaker 3: council because the voters are frustrated and scared for that matter.
Speaker 3: And I don't blame you at all for that. This morning,
Speaker 3: as I said, at nine oh six, I had on
Speaker 3: the neighbor who found the gun in front of Privy
Speaker 3: or next to Privy anyway, and just kind of edited
Speaker 3: up a little bit so you can get idea if
Speaker 3: you missed that. Here is our conversation from about nine
Speaker 3: this morning. Again it's on the podcast I'll following after
Speaker 3: the show. And I asked this individual who wanted to
Speaker 3: rename anonymous here and the videos up on my ex
Speaker 3: feed at Scott Sloan if you haven't seen it yet,
Speaker 3: and what time he was out there and what time
Speaker 3: did you find the gun.
Speaker 8: I'm honored to be a part of the show. I'm
Speaker 8: glad to be talking to you.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you. What's your take on a US.
Speaker 8: I'm more so, Okay, I miss I missed the prompt,
Speaker 8: so I just tuned in on the part where the
Speaker 8: guy called something about m Street.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, you're.
Speaker 2: Talking about.
Speaker 3: This is a guy who lives like literally steps away
Speaker 3: from the from Privy nightclub. He's a guy that found
Speaker 3: the gun in the grass after the shooting on Saturday.
Speaker 3: And then this is after the investigation.
Speaker 8: Oh wow, Okay, I was more so. I want to
Speaker 8: say that a lot of people over the Rye, right
Speaker 8: and kind of grew kind of grew up in over
Speaker 8: the Rhyn, right. I do have conservative views, if that's okay.
Speaker 8: And yeah, a lot of people who have done any
Speaker 8: dirt down here, they don't live down here, if that
Speaker 8: makes sense. I heard I heard them say something about
Speaker 8: just torking on the cars and all of that. When
Speaker 8: you ap off the park once you see those people.
Speaker 8: You don't see those teenagers at the park because their
Speaker 8: mom don't play, right, because we do still have six
Speaker 8: and eight down here, right, So a lot of people
Speaker 8: who come down here to do their dirt, to do
Speaker 8: their violence, they don't live down here. They catch the
Speaker 8: bus to come down here to cause havoc in our
Speaker 8: neighborhood and it's unacceptable, right, And.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean think about it.
Speaker 3: You know, you're not living that there's that club and
Speaker 3: it caters to a certain clientele that because there's so
Speaker 3: few people that are willing to do that. And let's
Speaker 3: face it, I mean, Sarah, you know, there's a reason
Speaker 3: why that element has attracted that club is because maybe
Speaker 3: they're looking the other way. Maybe you know, I know this,
Speaker 3: he's okay, hey, come in, you have weapons, you have drugs,
Speaker 3: you have god knows what you're getting in there. It's
Speaker 3: gonna attract that kind of element because you know, the
Speaker 3: word gets around that they're cool at at at Privy
Speaker 3: and so this brings that element there. And it's gonna
Speaker 3: bring people with their cars. It's gonna because you said, buses, whatever,
Speaker 3: somebody's gonna ride and where this is the spot we're
Speaker 3: going to this and and that's going to attract all
Speaker 3: that from all around the city.
Speaker 8: That you know what that that is, that is true?
Speaker 8: That is that is true to a certain extent.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 8: But when you also when we come down here to
Speaker 8: live down here, we have to we we don't want
Speaker 8: to write. But we have to expect, uh sort of
Speaker 8: that sort of that element because this, this neighborhood isn't
Speaker 8: known to be the best, right And like you said,
Speaker 8: people are coming from everywhere to invest in down here.
Speaker 8: They have to understand that a lot of this stuff
Speaker 8: and I'm also convinced that a lot of this isn't
Speaker 8: going to change either, right, Like I feel bad for
Speaker 8: the police chief because she did come out and I
Speaker 8: heard it on WEBN, she did come out and say
Speaker 8: that she didn't have enough cops who patrol. Because I
Speaker 8: lived right where a sixteen year old got shot someone
Speaker 8: else got shot on next to Tinis. I live near there.
Speaker 8: So it's just sad, and it's horrible because it is
Speaker 8: a beautiful neighborhood. Whether it's we're we're some mixed neighborhood, right,
Speaker 8: it is a beautiful neighborhood. And those of us who
Speaker 8: live down here, even the Section eight people, even us
Speaker 8: who like myself, work every day five days a week
Speaker 8: and go to work and come home, we we like.
Speaker 2: I sense, you know, And here's the thing here, I
Speaker 2: feel you frustrated as well.
Speaker 3: It's like this is not you know, We've got those
Speaker 3: the visitors in the city and it's black and it's
Speaker 3: white and all this and it's not It's like there's
Speaker 3: good people and bad people. It's like, what the hell
Speaker 3: is so hard about You call nine one one and
Speaker 3: they're you know, playing their blaring music and drinking liquor
Speaker 3: on car hoods at three o'clock in the morning, four
Speaker 3: o'clock mark, How hard is that to run those people
Speaker 3: off of there?
Speaker 4: That?
Speaker 3: And you know, we don't have enough cops, you know,
Speaker 3: like a h fifty cops short, they don't have time
Speaker 3: for that.
Speaker 2: But it's also the policies.
Speaker 8: I think they're scared.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe maybe too.
Speaker 8: I think our police are nervous to come and come
Speaker 8: out to calls because they typically don't know, like you
Speaker 8: get disturb dis order allowed if it's loud, they're not
Speaker 8: coming up. I've heard shots before, Nick, and I'll literally
Speaker 8: put look at my park and they take about an
Speaker 8: hour and a half before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just back. And the problem is that they're
Speaker 2: backed up.
Speaker 3: And that is because like when you treat a criminals
Speaker 3: like they're victims in this whole feel good nonsense, this
Speaker 3: is what you wind up getting. I mean, they're bad
Speaker 3: people in the world of all stripes like, I don't
Speaker 3: know why it's so damn hard just to take the people,
Speaker 3: regardless of what they look like, or what gender they
Speaker 3: are or or I don't care. It's if you're doing
Speaker 3: bad stuff, you're you're you're wreaking havoc and ruining your neighborhood.
Speaker 2: You gotta get the hell out of there. Knock it off.
Speaker 2: It's not that hard. I appreciate.
Speaker 3: Well, guys, cut off there, all right. Let me let
Speaker 3: me get the audio in here again. From about nine
Speaker 3: oh six, had the guy on the show the neighbor
Speaker 3: who found the gun, because I was asking him about
Speaker 3: what time he actually found the gun in the morning
Speaker 3: when he's out looking.
Speaker 5: Probably nine am. I didn't even know a shooting had happened.
Speaker 5: I was waking up of Sunday morning. I was walking
Speaker 5: down the street and when I walked by the first
Speaker 5: time I made a video, I'd just taken a video.
Speaker 5: We can't stand privy because it's just been one thing.
Speaker 7: After the next, after the next at the next.
Speaker 5: So I took a little video just to show like
Speaker 5: the trash that was outside. Yeah, you know, I thought
Speaker 5: that it.
Speaker 1: Was going to be a good video to have to
Speaker 1: show like hey, at the end of the night, this
Speaker 1: is how they leave.
Speaker 5: This place, and like this is just one of the
Speaker 5: fifty reasons why, like we hate having to miss a neighbor.
Speaker 5: And to turn the corner in my video into the
Speaker 5: alley right in front of, you know, the establishment, and
Speaker 5: there was like looked like a murder scene. Like it
Speaker 5: was just like a giant pool of blood. And so
Speaker 5: that was the first time I was like, Okay, what
Speaker 5: happened to here last night? And I got on the
Speaker 5: Citizen app and I saw that four people had gotten shot.
Speaker 5: Kind of looked at the Citizen app to where the
Speaker 5: shooting looked like it took place, and I just walked
Speaker 5: over there and just sitting right on the grass was
Speaker 5: a handgun And so I didn't really try to look.
Speaker 1: I just just was just sitting right there.
Speaker 5: And so I called the cops and said, hey, like,
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys like we need to
Speaker 5: look for this, but like the pistols sitting right here,
Speaker 5: it's directly this is a whole other topic. But like
Speaker 5: I saw some of the security footage. I actually went
Speaker 5: and talked to the owner who I've met a few times,
Speaker 5: and he like showed me some of the security footage,
Speaker 5: and like the video is crystal clear, and so if
Speaker 5: they don't make an arrest on this, like I have
Speaker 5: no idea what we're doing.
Speaker 3: How many feet would you say from where you found
Speaker 3: the gun was in proximity to the to the front
Speaker 3: door of the club.
Speaker 5: So the shooting happened on the I guess it'd be
Speaker 5: the north end of Privy.
Speaker 1: There's a door.
Speaker 5: From what he said, there was a group of individuals
Speaker 5: that were trying to come into the club and they
Speaker 5: didn't want to be searched. I'll give you this, Privy
Speaker 5: does have really impressive security, but it's the security is
Speaker 5: so impressive that it realizes how it makes you realize
Speaker 5: how alarming it is.
Speaker 1: Like these guys have bulletproof vests on. They look like
Speaker 1: swat swat gear.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of guys in tactical gear. Looks like
Speaker 3: they're headed into war as opposed to the front end
Speaker 3: of the place I want to go have not the
Speaker 3: place I want to go have beer.
Speaker 2: What about the shooters?
Speaker 1: I saw them.
Speaker 5: They looked like they were twenty five ish years old.
Speaker 5: There's maybe five or six guys they didn't want to
Speaker 5: get searched. At the front door, so they went over
Speaker 5: to the side door, and then they got really mad
Speaker 5: like when they couldn't get in. And so I don't
Speaker 5: know this series of events, but it sounds like they
Speaker 5: literally just started shooting at the building, which is insane,
Speaker 5: and it just kind of shows you the kind of
Speaker 5: people that Privy is drawing literally to my sideyard.
Speaker 2: That was from nine oh six this morning.
Speaker 3: If you missed one, here the whole discussion, it'll be
Speaker 3: available on the podcast via iHeartRadio app for free, so
Speaker 3: you can download that listen to your own time or
Speaker 3: just to you know, check it out then. But on
Speaker 3: this and the reasons anonymous because while he has a
Speaker 3: fear of retribution from those people who frequent and own
Speaker 3: that particular club, it's a problem. It's problem invested in
Speaker 3: the neighborhood, has seen and then put a lot of
Speaker 3: his own money and hard work into affordable housing and
Speaker 3: bringing the neighborhood up, and now it's being torn apart
Speaker 3: because we don't have cops to run people off when
Speaker 3: they're partying after hours around there, drinking, talking on cars,
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff, that kind of scene. It's a
Speaker 3: mess down there. And of course today being election day.
Speaker 3: You would think that there's some sort of wake up
Speaker 3: call from the voters of Cincinnati. Whatever that looks like.
Speaker 3: It's going to be interesting to have this discussion tomorrow. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and you know, I feel for you if you live
Speaker 3: in the city right now. I wonder if the interesting
Speaker 3: part is going to be starting tomorrow after the elections,
Speaker 3: when the when the dust cells and smokes clear, do
Speaker 3: they change tech or they just simply go, hey, you
Speaker 3: know what we want re election, win our seats. We're
Speaker 3: going to continue the way things are. We're fine, no
Speaker 3: retribution whatsoever. We don't feel it from the voters. A
Speaker 3: lot on the line to for share in the city.
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Speaker 2: Good morning.
Speaker 3: Today is election day, of course in Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana.
Speaker 3: Don't forget the id I've been talking about the passing
Speaker 3: of President Dick Cheney, vice President sorry Dick Cheney, so
Speaker 3: I may say president, but vice President Dick Cheney. And
Speaker 3: it also marks today a very interesting anniversary. The Iranian
Speaker 3: hostage crisis. He may not have been around when this
Speaker 3: was going down. I was a little kid, but vaguely
Speaker 3: remember this and specifically our attempt to rescue the fifty
Speaker 3: hostages taken by the Islamic militants in Tehran back in
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy nine that stretched into nineteen eighty and impacted
Speaker 3: the nineteen eighty presidential campaign. And Ben McIntyre's here writes
Speaker 3: about this in the siege and obviously some parallels here
Speaker 3: to what is transpiring our hass transferred, i should say,
Speaker 3: in Israel with Amas and hostage is there.
Speaker 2: Ben, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 7: Good morning, Thank you very much, great to be honest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the backstory here history.
Speaker 3: You know, if we think radical Islam, Islam is something new,
Speaker 3: I mean we really saw this in the late nineteen
Speaker 3: seven mind to Night, late nineteen seventies, culminating with the
Speaker 3: taking of fifty Americans, including a Cincinnatian, held hostage at
Speaker 3: our embassy in Iran. And it went on forever. And
Speaker 3: this is really what sunk Jimmy Carter in his quest
Speaker 3: for a second Hearin, the economy was banned, a lot
Speaker 3: of the things he's worried about. Peace in the Middle
Speaker 3: East and all this. But to me that you know,
Speaker 3: watching the news, and that was when you had three channels.
Speaker 3: Maybe you watch the news and it would be a
Speaker 3: steady drumbeat in the account of Okay, it's one hundred days,
Speaker 3: it's two hundred days, and it kept going on and
Speaker 3: on and on. That were really in the eyes of America,
Speaker 3: made him look even weaker than he already was, and
Speaker 3: ultimately ushered in Ronald.
Speaker 7: Reagan, that is right.
Speaker 11: And simultaneously, six days after the failed attempt to rescue
Speaker 11: the American hostages in Tehran, Operation the Eagle Claw, which ended,
Speaker 11: as you say, in disaster, it was a calamity, six
Speaker 11: days later, six Iranian Arabs attacked the Iranian embassy in London.
Speaker 11: There's an almost direct parallel going on here. One of
Speaker 11: the reasons why they decided to attack the Iranian embassy
Speaker 11: was because it was representative of the Iranian regime. These
Speaker 11: were militant Arabs who were opposed to the Ayatollah and
Speaker 11: the new fundamentalists in Tehran, and they selected the Iranian
Speaker 11: embassy in London as the best thing to attack, and
Speaker 11: it set off an astonishing kind of parallel hostage situation here.
Speaker 11: Because inside that building were twenty six people, some of
Speaker 11: them British citizens in fact, which the gunmen were not expecting.
Speaker 4: Most of them.
Speaker 11: Were employees of the Iranian embassy and representatives of the
Speaker 11: Eyeoler's regime, and it became a huge parallel problem for
Speaker 11: the international community.
Speaker 3: The American side of this thing is I think we
Speaker 3: didn't pay as much attention to that as we did
Speaker 3: the Operation Eagle Claw. I think, as was called when
Speaker 3: the helicopter crash killed eight servicemen in an attempt to
Speaker 3: rescue the hostages. Revera few of the hostages from from Tehran,
Speaker 3: and it's not because of the Shah of Iran. So
Speaker 3: the Shah was basically our guy in Tehran. We can
Speaker 3: know he certainly had a lot of influence in the
Speaker 3: way we backed his regime, and all of a sudden
Speaker 3: he had to escape came to the United States. I
Speaker 3: think subsequently that of cancer, if I'm not mistaken. But
Speaker 3: the end result, there was a lot of this wake
Speaker 3: in this this power vacuum in Iran and Tehran that
Speaker 3: led to the hostage has been taken.
Speaker 11: That is, that is correct, And of course in nineteen
Speaker 11: eighty it was still incredibly unstable in Iran. You know,
Speaker 11: the regime had not fully established itself, and it had
Speaker 11: also awoken lots of expectations among people who had supported
Speaker 11: the revolution, including the Horab minority in the southwest, who
Speaker 11: were keen for more political rights, who wanted political representation,
Speaker 11: that is the oil rich part of Iran, that's the
Speaker 11: southwest and Kusev done. And what happened was exactly the
Speaker 11: reverse that instead of providing the Arabs.
Speaker 1: With more rights and more more more.
Speaker 11: Opportun communities in the wake of the Fulham, the Shah,
Speaker 11: actually the Iotola clamped down brutally on those Arabs, creating
Speaker 11: a major problem because what that resulted in was a
Speaker 11: very militant guerrilla movement on the part of the Arabs
Speaker 11: in Iran, backed by Saddam Hussein. That is the point
Speaker 11: of this element of the story is that Saddam Hussein
Speaker 11: and his then terrorist advisor A mangled Abu ni Dahal
Speaker 11: were training Arabs in and around Baghdad to attack Iran,
Speaker 11: to attack different Iranian targets, oil fields, police stations, and
Speaker 11: in this case, the Iranian embassy in London.
Speaker 7: So what you have taking place in London at.
Speaker 11: The same time as the hostage crisis is taking place
Speaker 11: in Tehran is really the first battle of the looming
Speaker 11: Iran Iraq War, because that is coming in a few
Speaker 11: months after this, Iran and Iraq go to war. More
Speaker 11: than a million people die in that appalling eight year conflict.
Speaker 7: But the first element of that, and that conflict of.
Speaker 11: Course would have huge effects, huge ramifications going down to
Speaker 11: going down the years, but that all started that that
Speaker 11: moment begins in this conflict in London.
Speaker 7: So the Sixth Day Siege.
Speaker 11: This extraordinary sort of standoff that takes place in London,
Speaker 11: is really a battle, sort of proxy battle between the
Speaker 11: Iran and Iraq.
Speaker 1: The Iran Iraq war, of.
Speaker 11: Course, destabilizes the whole of the Middle East, and from
Speaker 11: there you get to.
Speaker 4: The Gulf Wars, you get to.
Speaker 11: The Afghan situation, the invasion of Afghanistan, and eventually you get.
Speaker 4: To nine to eleven.
Speaker 11: So this in a way is one of the founding moments,
Speaker 11: along with the hostage crisis in Tehran. For America, this
Speaker 11: is a key moment. The other thing to know about
Speaker 11: the Iranian embassy crisis here in London was that it
Speaker 11: was being closely watched by America because there was.
Speaker 7: A hope at the time that if it could.
Speaker 11: Be resolved peacefully, if somehow the Iranians inside could be released,
Speaker 11: it would please Tehran and that could then be used
Speaker 11: as a leave to try to persuade Iran to release
Speaker 11: the American hostages. So throughout this six day siege, Washington
Speaker 11: was on the line to Margaret Thatcher saying, you know,
Speaker 11: get this sorted out, Please, get this done bloodlessly. Do
Speaker 11: it in a way that will, you know, curry favor
Speaker 11: with the Iranian regime, and then we may be able
Speaker 11: to use it as a way to.
Speaker 4: Get our people out.
Speaker 11: Needless to say, that didn't work. The siege ended with
Speaker 11: an extraordinary assault by the sas by British special forces.
Speaker 11: It was highly successful. In contrast to it operating Eagle Claw,
Speaker 11: which you've just mentioned, this was an astonishing success. They
Speaker 11: managed to save all but two of the hostages and
Speaker 11: indeed killed all but one of the gunment.
Speaker 4: It was an amazing achievement.
Speaker 11: The hope that this would somehow bring Tehran into a
Speaker 11: better relationship with both Britain and America was not to be.
Speaker 11: That hardline regime remained just as hardline as it was before,
Speaker 11: if not harder.
Speaker 3: Connect the dots and Ben mcintyren the sea. How did
Speaker 3: we get to today where you have another humanitarian crisis.
Speaker 3: You have more hostages, this time those people from Gaza
Speaker 3: in the Middle East, and we have Palestinians and Israel
Speaker 3: nothing new there are How close are those two related?
Speaker 3: And it seems like, I think for the casual observer,
Speaker 3: certainly the battle between Jews in Arabs and Palestinians in
Speaker 3: this case has been gone on much much longer than
Speaker 3: what we're talking about here with the anniversary of the
Speaker 3: Iranian hostage crisis.
Speaker 1: Out of these all connect, yes.
Speaker 7: Well they do connect.
Speaker 11: I mean, you know, the battle inside the Iranian embassy
Speaker 11: in London during the siege was really between rival ideologies,
Speaker 11: people who believed they had right on their side and
Speaker 11: were prepared to do anything that they had to do,
Speaker 11: including killing, including mass killing, in order to achieve their
Speaker 11: political aims. It was non religious conflict.
Speaker 4: The one in London.
Speaker 11: It was much more to do with rights and territory
Speaker 11: and representation, as you can argue is the case in Gaza.
Speaker 4: What it seems to.
Speaker 11: Me this story is about really is about radicalization. The
Speaker 11: sixth gunmen who went into attack the embassy.
Speaker 7: Here had all suffered at.
Speaker 11: The hands of Iran's security service. They had had family
Speaker 11: members killed, tortured, executed. Now that doesn't justify what they
Speaker 11: what they did is still these were men of violence
Speaker 11: who were prepared to kill and be killed in what
Speaker 11: they were doing. But they had been brutalized by a
Speaker 11: kind of tit for tack violence, which is what we're
Speaker 11: seeing today. In a way in Gaza, the quickest way
Speaker 11: to make a man into a killer is to kill
Speaker 11: the thing that he loves. And you know, indiscriminate bombing,
Speaker 11: you know, attacking kibbutzies. These are acts of sort of
Speaker 11: indiscriminate violence that create They don't create.
Speaker 7: The effect that they that they are intended to create.
Speaker 11: They simply create more violence. So although this story of
Speaker 11: the of the Iranian embassy siege in London that the
Speaker 11: sas hostage drama, it is still a story of our times.
Speaker 11: We still have hostages being taken in the name of politics,
Speaker 11: in the name of sort of sexcittarian views, which is
Speaker 11: exactly what was happening in London.
Speaker 3: And sadly, Ben if you look prior to nineteen eighty
Speaker 3: and you'll see photographs of people in Tehran in the
Speaker 3: nineteen seventies and sixties.
Speaker 2: It looks very western.
Speaker 3: The women are addressed in Western clothes, they're in Burker's
Speaker 3: lists of the music go on a Western university.
Speaker 2: Will we ever see in our lifetime the pendulum swing
Speaker 2: back that way?
Speaker 4: Hopefully? Probably? Who knows?
Speaker 11: I mean in order, But you're actually right, of course, Scott.
Speaker 11: You know that it was a very westernized regime.
Speaker 4: In Iran under the Shah.
Speaker 11: But of course that had happened very quickly too. It
Speaker 11: had gone from being a much more traditional, much more
Speaker 11: religious state. He had sort of force marched it with
Speaker 11: Western help, into the Western world. The non wearing of
Speaker 11: hit jabs and so on in Iran was all comparatively news.
Speaker 11: So these are very sudden changes. One shouldn't imagine that
Speaker 11: Iran had had a slow evolution into a westernized Middle
Speaker 11: Eastern country. It hadn't. It had been frog marched into
Speaker 11: that by the shar who was determined to create that
Speaker 11: high speed a modern nation, and he did so with
Speaker 11: extreme brutality. I mean, we now know of some of
Speaker 11: the horrors perpetrated by his security service during the Shah's regime.
Speaker 7: So again you have that.
Speaker 11: Story of sudden change coupled with an absolute sort of
Speaker 11: determination to impose your views.
Speaker 4: On other people.
Speaker 11: That is an old, old story and alas it's been
Speaker 11: the story in Iran for centuries. I mean, Western involvement
Speaker 11: in Iran is not a happy story.
Speaker 7: The Anglo American oil companies.
Speaker 11: Who manipulated Iran and tried to make huge amounts of
Speaker 11: profits out of there, that is also part of this story.
Speaker 11: The West is not blameless in this story.
Speaker 4: It's not as if the.
Speaker 11: Shara was some charming, polite, demo traffic elected figure.
Speaker 4: He was not. He was a ruthless autocrat.
Speaker 11: And he was backed by Britain and America. And part
Speaker 11: of that autocracy is what sparked the revolution. It didn't
Speaker 11: come from nowhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, British petroleum comes to man, right BP, which we
Speaker 3: have here obviously British year where you are in trying
Speaker 3: to keep oil as low as we'll go and essentially
Speaker 3: milking that out and people realized, hey, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: we in it lant to the oil crisis, the oil embargo,
Speaker 3: and it doesn't sound like much has change. We're still
Speaker 3: fighting this battle.
Speaker 4: I think that's exactly right.
Speaker 11: And you know, in nineteen fifty three, the democratically elected
Speaker 11: government of Iran was toppled in a coup because they
Speaker 11: appeared to be about to nationalize the oil industry.
Speaker 4: Well, who was behind that coup? It was the.
Speaker 11: CIA and MI six it was it was British and
Speaker 11: American intelligence created a coup against the democratically elected government.
Speaker 11: That shows you just how volatile and how much X theory,
Speaker 11: a sort of influence has has had to play in
Speaker 11: the Iranian story. And it goes back, it goes and memories.
Speaker 4: In Iran are very very long.
Speaker 11: I mean again, in no way am I defending the
Speaker 11: appalling theocratic regime in Tehran today, which has become more
Speaker 11: and more oppressive as time has gone on. But one
Speaker 11: has to see that as you have to see all
Speaker 11: these stories in historical context. These things don't happen out
Speaker 11: of nowhere.
Speaker 3: Well you kind of said it yourself. Oppression leads to revolution.
Speaker 3: And as oppressed as people are there, do we see
Speaker 3: a revolution brewing where people are going to want to
Speaker 3: take back their country or at least their autocracy. It's
Speaker 3: been going on for almost fifty years. I think that
Speaker 3: is right.
Speaker 2: Do we see an end inside?
Speaker 1: Because it's all cyclical, it all comes back.
Speaker 4: It does.
Speaker 11: An oppression is to revolution, and revolution almost inevitably leads
Speaker 11: to greater repression, so you have a kind of vicious
Speaker 11: cycle that eventually explodes out of the country. That is,
Speaker 11: you know, the American hostage crisis was very different in
Speaker 11: the ways from the British embassy crisis, because of course
Speaker 11: that was those were captives inside an entire country. They
Speaker 11: were really being held hostage by the Iranian state. This
Speaker 11: was both similar but at the same time different because
Speaker 11: these were terrorists, gunmen who had come to this country
Speaker 11: with the avowed intention of staging sort of terrorists spectacular
Speaker 11: with Iraqi backing. But within days of it happening, groups
Speaker 11: of demonstrators were gathering on the streets of London. You
Speaker 11: had the Iranian demonstrators who were backing the Ayatollah who
Speaker 11: believed that.
Speaker 7: This must be a CIA backed assault on.
Speaker 11: The Iranian embassy. The CIA was immediately blamed by the
Speaker 11: Iranian government for causing it. Of course they had actually
Speaker 11: nothing to do with it. It was all being done
Speaker 11: by Saddam Hustine. Then you had Americans in London.
Speaker 7: Demonstrating because they believed.
Speaker 11: That somehow this was linked that the maybe Americans inside
Speaker 11: that embassy who were being held hostage. Again, there were
Speaker 11: other people who believed that actually this must be the
Speaker 11: Iranians themselves launching an attack against their own embassy.
Speaker 1: And finally you have.
Speaker 11: The traditional British football litigants. He turned up to toward
Speaker 11: the others and ended up in a sort of punch
Speaker 11: up with everybody else. So you've got a very complicated
Speaker 11: situation that is is kind of spooning out from a
Speaker 11: central conflict.
Speaker 3: All right, more on this, Ben McIntyre, The siege and
Speaker 3: the anniversary of the Iranian hostage crisis is here.
Speaker 4: Thanks for the time, Great jer Scott, thanks for having
Speaker 4: me on.
Speaker 3: Thanks again today not only election day, but also the
Speaker 3: anniversary of the Iranian hostage crisis in nineteen seventy nine,
Speaker 3: and also the passing of Vice President Dick Cheney, who
Speaker 3: in nineteen seventy nine was the freshman representative from the
Speaker 3: Great State of Wyoming. He had worked in the Ford
Speaker 3: White House, but later under Ronald Reagan, with Iran contra
Speaker 3: brewing in the mid nineteen eighties, a different Iran related
Speaker 3: scandal than we're talking about here, A problem, I guess
Speaker 3: I should say. He was in the House Select Committee
Speaker 3: that investigated that and defended the Reagan administration and then,
Speaker 3: of course years later becoming Vice President of United States,
Speaker 3: Dick Cheney passing away overnight.
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Speaker 2: Good morning, you have life.
Speaker 6: Everything's good, Scott, how are you today?
Speaker 2: Everything is fine, Everything is fine.
Speaker 3: But you're gonna tell me today with the markets and
Speaker 3: such which is going on here on this election day.
Speaker 3: Let's jump right in at the top interest rates cut
Speaker 3: by the Fed. That's was predicted by you. No big
Speaker 3: surprise right there, and that is any good news.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: I guess though that you could look at this and
Speaker 3: say that the chair Jerom Powell, the Fed really did
Speaker 3: a little unexpected thing or what wasn't expected? How aggressive
Speaker 3: it was? Maybe another cut's coming up? Can you lay
Speaker 3: it out for us?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 12: So I think you need to remember that markets are
Speaker 12: predictive indicators of how investors feel about the economy.
Speaker 6: Looking out, let's say, six months to a year.
Speaker 12: So we all knew or thought we knew that there
Speaker 12: would be a cut, you know, this past week, and
Speaker 12: that's exactly what happened. And so the markets really haven't
Speaker 12: responded favorably one way or the other. And I think that,
Speaker 12: you know, what investors are really looking for is what
Speaker 12: we call guidance, and guidance is what the FED chair
Speaker 12: will say in the press conference after the decision is made.
Speaker 12: And he kind of threw a little bit of water
Speaker 12: on our optimism a little bit. And really what he
Speaker 12: said was is said, Okay, you know, I know that
Speaker 12: you're all thinking that there's going to be another cut December.
Speaker 12: He said, basically, hold your horses. We're not there yet.
Speaker 12: There has been some descent within the FED committee members
Speaker 12: about what direction we should go moving forward. He said, essentially,
Speaker 12: it's not a foregone conclusion. He said, we're far from
Speaker 12: that decision, even though that we believe that it's probably
Speaker 12: still going to happen in December. That really kind of
Speaker 12: put a damper on the optimism of investors in general.
Speaker 3: Okay, and then just laying this out there too, is
Speaker 3: that we're just going to keep going till we get
Speaker 3: a one point. You know, I'm talking to my wife
Speaker 3: about this. In the real estate markets, Uh, people are like, wow,
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna wait till goes back down the three percent.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna see those rates again.
Speaker 12: Uh, probably not. But he also said further that you know,
Speaker 12: if we don't cut in December, we're still probably gonna
Speaker 12: see cuts next year. That can amount to maybe one
Speaker 12: quarter percent cut, maybe three quarter percent cuts.
Speaker 6: We just don't know.
Speaker 12: And you know what the Fed is balancing right now
Speaker 12: is you know, what is inflation gonna do. If inflation
Speaker 12: remains pretty sticky, they're gonna hold off. They're gonna wait
Speaker 12: to see what happens. If the labor market starts to
Speaker 12: waiver a little bit more and we see more cracks
Speaker 12: in the labor market, maybe they become more aggressive. But
Speaker 12: what he basically, you know, his message was basically, we
Speaker 12: need to wait and see, you know, don't get your
Speaker 12: hopes up too quickly.
Speaker 2: All right, wait and see pump there.
Speaker 3: Well, we'll see what December bus, right, and it's gonna
Speaker 3: be hear in a few short weeks anyway, So we're
Speaker 3: going to know sooner rather than later.
Speaker 1: So would you say, like fifty to fifty.
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I think.
Speaker 12: It's probably more two thirds likely that we do see
Speaker 12: it cut in December. Now, the Fed doesn't want to
Speaker 12: you know, really reveal their hand, but I think it's
Speaker 12: more likely than not.
Speaker 3: All Right, we saw the markets jump over the last
Speaker 3: few days. For sure, Today can outlier, but it's because
Speaker 3: Trump and g met in South Korea and agreed on
Speaker 3: I guess tariff terms.
Speaker 2: But how did the markets react to that?
Speaker 3: Because we've heard that before, only to hear while more
Speaker 3: tariffs being threatened, and we've ignored the the negatives where
Speaker 3: the threat is going to be more tariffs. Do we
Speaker 3: also ignore the fact that China and the United States
Speaker 3: might have a deal here.
Speaker 6: I think there's two components to it.
Speaker 12: I think that investors like the fact that there's open
Speaker 12: dialogue between President Trump and President g They met in
Speaker 12: South Korea and agreed on several terms. Basically, they're hoping
Speaker 12: to de escalate the tension between you know, two economic superpowers. However,
Speaker 12: it's still more of kicking the can down the road,
Speaker 12: you know. It's it's one of those, you know, one
Speaker 12: of those deals like Ronald Reagan said, you know, verify,
Speaker 12: you know trust, but verify China is going to purchase
Speaker 12: large amounts of US soybeans in the next three years.
Speaker 2: Farmers.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's gonna be good for farmers.
Speaker 12: But here, here's the deal about China, Scott, is that
Speaker 12: we've made deals with them before, but they haven't always
Speaker 12: followed through on those deals. And so we basically have
Speaker 12: said we're gonna we're gonna make these deals. We're gonna
Speaker 12: give it a year and see and make sure that
Speaker 12: we have plans in place to verify these types of things,
Speaker 12: you know, And we're also gonna pause restrictions. I'm sorry,
Speaker 12: China's gonna pause restrictions on rare earth exports over the
Speaker 12: next year. And that's important because those rare earth minerals
Speaker 12: are critical for not only components that we use with
Speaker 12: electronics and it, but also for our military. Trump agreed
Speaker 12: to scale back the fentanyl related terrorists from twenty percent
Speaker 12: to ten percent, and that basically results in an average
Speaker 12: of forty seven percent tariff on Chinese goods.
Speaker 6: So, you know, all of these things on paper sound good.
Speaker 12: Investors like the fact that, hey, we're coming to the
Speaker 12: table with China, but it still really remains to be
Speaker 12: seen whether these tears remain in place, whether China is
Speaker 12: acting in good faith with these UH lifted restrictions and
Speaker 12: continue to progress on deals between the world's biggest superpowers.
Speaker 3: Andy Schaefer, we're also battling Venezuela over allegedly allegedly it
Speaker 3: is fentanyl coming across the Bard, and all the drug
Speaker 3: surveys and reports and everything say that is simply not
Speaker 3: not at all true. You mentioned rare with minerals, and
Speaker 3: I know that Venezuela has a significant deposit of those.
Speaker 3: Could that be what's going on here?
Speaker 12: Well, there's there's a couple of things with Venezuela, UH Venezuela. Essentially,
Speaker 12: we don't have a large trading or relationship with Venezuela.
Speaker 12: So when you look at tariff conversations, in tariff talks,
Speaker 12: you know, going back to you know, the American Revolution,
Speaker 12: there were basically two reasons that we implemented terrafs. Alexander
Speaker 12: Hamilton wanted to get you know, a significant amount more revenue,
Speaker 12: you know, that's one of the benefits of terras The
Speaker 12: other reason is that you want to bring more control
Speaker 12: back to your own industry and control you know, the
Speaker 12: production of goods. Well, Donald Trump is using it in
Speaker 12: another way, and one of the ways that he's using
Speaker 12: it is from a political sense, even though that we
Speaker 12: don't have a big trading relationship with Venezuela. Venezuela is
Speaker 12: supplying oil, rare earth minerals to a lot of, you know,
Speaker 12: what we perceive as adversaries of the United States, and
Speaker 12: so what you can do with with Venezuela then is
Speaker 12: put a lot of restrictions on them to say, hey,
Speaker 12: don't start mining your rare minerals and sending them to
Speaker 12: a lot of our adversaries, you know, because we will
Speaker 12: be able to put restrictions and punish you significantly with
Speaker 12: a lot of our economic tools that we have in
Speaker 12: our pocket. And so I think it's more of a
Speaker 12: political play where we're trying to squeeze China, Russia and
Speaker 12: those types of countries and hurt Venezuela in the process
Speaker 12: because they are helping out a lot of our rivals.
Speaker 3: Obviously, the oil is a big one, they're the largest
Speaker 3: reserves in the world in Venezuela. Gold is another one
Speaker 3: as well. But the problem is it's such a battered
Speaker 3: and beliegued country that we don't know We just assume
Speaker 3: they've got a lot of rare earth minerals because China's
Speaker 3: in there and they put tons of money into the
Speaker 3: mines in Venezuela. And I think maybe you know, he
Speaker 3: Ventanyl plays really well too. I think Trump's base for sure.
Speaker 3: But the reality is is little or no fentanyl. It's
Speaker 3: mainly you know, coming from Mexico and other countries have
Speaker 3: other South American countries, not Venezuela. There's a whole different
Speaker 3: dynamic there. But the pretext is, hey, you know what
Speaker 3: they're they're traveler blowing the boats up. Maybe we start
Speaker 3: launches inside of Venezuela. We want to change the regime there.
Speaker 3: It's more favorable for the United States, and now maybe
Speaker 3: we can overthrow things and turn the tide in our favor.
Speaker 3: That's I think the I think that's the real story
Speaker 3: that what's going on in Venezuela.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think there's you know, to a large degree,
Speaker 6: you're right there.
Speaker 12: You know the other thing about rare earth minerals, petroleum,
Speaker 12: oil and you know, energy.
Speaker 6: And things like that.
Speaker 12: The United States has a large reserves. The problem is
Speaker 12: is not having the access to those types of minerals
Speaker 12: and oil and things like that. The problem is is
Speaker 12: that we don't have the capability of the refinement that
Speaker 12: countries like China has, and so China is looking at, hey,
Speaker 12: what does our nation look like twenty five fifty years
Speaker 12: down the road. And so everybody right now is jocking
Speaker 12: for position to be able to have leverage not only
Speaker 12: just today and weeks ahead and over the next couple
Speaker 12: of years, but really looking out into the future for
Speaker 12: our next generations. And that's where we're really starting to
Speaker 12: try to position ourselves, not today, not tomorrow, but looking
Speaker 12: into the future now.
Speaker 3: Right it's the Geopolitical Roundtable, Andy Schaeffer from all We're
Speaker 3: financial here on seven hundred WW. This is some deep
Speaker 3: dive kind of stuff. This is like you know, NPR
Speaker 3: kind of this is high level stuff. We got go
Speaker 3: out of our brother.
Speaker 12: Well, I think, you know, you have to plan ahead,
Speaker 12: you have to understand and when you know, in my industry,
Speaker 12: when you're talking about investing, you have to understand what
Speaker 12: makes sense from making a smart investment, and what does
Speaker 12: our country look like not only tomorrow, the next day
Speaker 12: or the day after that, but what makes sense moving
Speaker 12: forward and what direction is our errow moving Not only
Speaker 12: you know you know, from a labor market standpoint, but
Speaker 12: also what sectors look more promising, and that's really important
Speaker 12: to make good decisions within my client's portfolio and for
Speaker 12: investors in general.
Speaker 3: All Right, the threat of AI is all looming. All
Speaker 3: the news this week is not all of it, but
Speaker 3: it feels like everything is filtered the context of AI.
Speaker 3: This changing dynamic, you know, the it's the next industrial
Speaker 3: revolution that's going on right near. People are losing their
Speaker 3: jobs and we're seeing you know, entry level, white collar
Speaker 3: jobs disappear as a result of this. And the idea
Speaker 3: that's going to take all jobs away, I think is
Speaker 3: kind of silly because if you go back to any
Speaker 3: technological revolution, it's always the threat of, oh my god,
Speaker 3: this is going to destroy all these jobs. You know,
Speaker 3: back in the day when you had typewriters or exactly
Speaker 3: type is now you know, we have AI and type
Speaker 3: hast took away all the people doing calligraphy and writing
Speaker 3: things by hand. So we just morph into different.
Speaker 12: Jobs, right, Yeah, I remember typing papers and junior high
Speaker 12: on a typewriter, and you know, and and and that
Speaker 12: didn't eliminate a lot of jobs when we moved into
Speaker 12: computer and it did in the late nineties when we
Speaker 12: developed the Internet, there was a lot of fear there
Speaker 12: and I think right now people just don't know really
Speaker 12: what to make of AI. And I think that AI
Speaker 12: is here to stay. It is a major revolution. If
Speaker 12: businesses are not looking into adding AI into to become
Speaker 12: a major component of their business, they will probably falter
Speaker 12: and maybe dissipate and an underperform. And I think that
Speaker 12: I think investors understand that that is the future. I
Speaker 12: use AI within my job. My wife the other night
Speaker 12: was looking to add a mantle over our fireplace. Well,
Speaker 12: she could type in something on AI and it builds
Speaker 12: this big picture of all these different types of aesthetics
Speaker 12: to that picture and helps you shop for those types
Speaker 12: of proper So AI is here to stay.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 12: There is overvaluation there, and what I mean by that
Speaker 12: is the price for stocks that are invested in AI
Speaker 12: are elevated versus what their earnings are today. And the
Speaker 12: bed is is that these companies are going to continue
Speaker 12: to generate revenue trillions of dollars over the next five years.
Speaker 12: And so I'm willing to pay this elevated price today
Speaker 12: for the opportunity for the prospect that these companies will
Speaker 12: continue to perform in the future, and I think that's
Speaker 12: a good bet. Now, if you ever see any types
Speaker 12: of earnings reports that falter a little bit versus the estimates,
Speaker 12: you're going to see a little bit of a pullback.
Speaker 12: And that's kind of what we've seen over the last
Speaker 12: couple of days, is that people are getting a little
Speaker 12: bit tired of these elevated prices and are almost looking
Speaker 12: for a reason to lock in those gains. But I
Speaker 12: do think you guys here to stay. I do still
Speaker 12: think it's a good investment, and I think that you
Speaker 12: need to have it as a piece.
Speaker 6: Of your portfolio.
Speaker 2: And certainly it's not going anywhere. It's here.
Speaker 3: But the idea that this is going to somehow destroy it.
Speaker 3: It's probably gonna take some jobs away, but they'll create
Speaker 3: jobs and other sectors, we don't know. That's the way
Speaker 3: it's always been. Any technology comes along and the car
Speaker 3: comes along, Oh my god, the horse. What are we
Speaker 3: going to do with the horseshoeers and the guys who
Speaker 3: farm hay? And you know, again, everybody just finds new jobs.
Speaker 3: That's that's kind of the way it is. You do
Speaker 3: wind to pit it and do something else, let's take
Speaker 3: a look at the week ahead. Here we are into
Speaker 3: the I don't know, the third year of the government shutdown.
Speaker 3: I've lost track of this whole thing. We're not getting
Speaker 3: any official economic data out as all of that, but again,
Speaker 3: the markets will figure it out. So they're going to
Speaker 3: come up with some foodgazy reports here.
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, I think I think so.
Speaker 12: And you know, it is a challenge to you know,
Speaker 12: to really get an understanding where we are from an
Speaker 12: economic point of view. You know, there's really a lack
Speaker 12: of economic releases due to the shutdown, but there are
Speaker 12: some there is some private data updates. We are going
Speaker 12: to get the ISM Manufacturing and Services Survey and the
Speaker 12: ice CM is basically the Institute for Supply Management and
Speaker 12: what they do is basically pull a lot of supply
Speaker 12: managers of different industries to find out whether they feel
Speaker 12: like you're going to increase your purchases of supply or
Speaker 12: you're going to reduce your your purchases of supply. And
Speaker 12: that gives us an idea of, you know, the optimism
Speaker 12: or lack thereof, of how these supply managers feel about
Speaker 12: the economy.
Speaker 6: So that will be interesting.
Speaker 12: To see, you know, we'll also see what the jobs
Speaker 12: reports will do. ADP will provide some data of employer payrolls. Again,
Speaker 12: ADP is a private sector business, so we can get
Speaker 12: some data. We're just not giving it getting it from
Speaker 12: a government's perspective.
Speaker 3: Okay, And we've got big companies that are going to
Speaker 3: report profits, and we'll have a bigger picture too. We'll
Speaker 3: see how how those influenced the markets coming up. We're
Speaker 3: all have a pretty good idea if these big large
Speaker 3: cap companies are the big ones here, like you know,
Speaker 3: Marathon and McDonald's, it doesn't get bigger than that. They
Speaker 3: report their earnings, we'll find out.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know, right now it's earning season.
Speaker 12: You know, we want to make sure that we see
Speaker 12: how companies are going to continue to perform, you know,
Speaker 12: what their prospects are. We get guidance from them as well.
Speaker 12: You know, a lot of times you'll get on conference
Speaker 12: calls with some of the executives and they'll say, here's
Speaker 12: you know, here's what we think we look like over
Speaker 12: the next six months to a year. So that guidance
Speaker 12: is going to get them be important. We're going to
Speaker 12: get one hundred and twenty eight large cap companies that
Speaker 12: are going to report profits.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 12: You mentioned Marathon mcdonnalds Humana as well, so that will
Speaker 12: be interesting. And again we're gonna get a lot of
Speaker 12: FED speeches as we always do, so it'll be interesting
Speaker 12: to see what the FED has to say this week
Speaker 12: about the lack of data and what their guidance is
Speaker 12: moving forward as well.
Speaker 3: All Right, Andy Schaeffer, all Worth Financial. The show is
Speaker 3: simply money weeknights at six on fifty five KRC. He
Speaker 3: jumps in every Tuesday morning, talk about stuff that's happening
Speaker 3: and influencing your wallet, including geopolitics for that matter. Fascinating, fascinating.
Speaker 3: I feel like we should be smoking cigars, sitting in
Speaker 3: a room somewhere and scotch and plotting the overthrow of Maduro.
Speaker 3: All right, gotta go, Andy, appreciate it, but.
Speaker 6: All right, thanks, all right, set it up. I'll see
Speaker 6: you soon.
Speaker 3: All Right, there you go, big scotch drinker, that Andy Shaeffer,
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