1
00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:11,040
Speaker 1: Five O five fifty five k r C the talk

2
00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:12,480
Speaker 1: station Fridday.

3
00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:17,240
Speaker 2: Heath some say.

4
00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:28,920
Speaker 1: Will vacation, no idea?

5
00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:29,560
Speaker 3: What's going on?

6
00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,040
Speaker 1: Perfectly selected sound bite to start the morning show off

7
00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,080
Speaker 1: Just Trecker, Executive producer, because I really have no idea

8
00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,479
Speaker 1: what's going on? Long day yesterday had a fantastic time

9
00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,040
Speaker 1: at listening to launch. By the way, Brian Thomas here

10
00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,120
Speaker 1: hosted the fifty five CARC Morning Show fifty five Carsey

11
00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,120
Speaker 1: dot com. That's where you good podcast get your right

12
00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,120
Speaker 1: Heart media apps you can stream the content and listen

13
00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,320
Speaker 1: to what judge the Paul Tano had to say yesterday

14
00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,280
Speaker 1: about the event Azuela and boat blow ups. Viv Ramaswami,

15
00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,080
Speaker 1: next Governor of Ohio, on the program yesterday we talked

16
00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,120
Speaker 1: to the Help Squad. Give the Help Squad some help.

17
00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,080
Speaker 1: Brian Ibel could sure you some support so he can

18
00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,920
Speaker 1: help those on the West Side primarily deal with some

19
00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,920
Speaker 1: of the troubles they are facing in life. Notably, people

20
00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,800
Speaker 1: are getting ready to be evicted because well financial troubles

21
00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,360
Speaker 1: have landed in their lap. They do a lot of

22
00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,680
Speaker 1: great work on the West Side for those struggling and

23
00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,880
Speaker 1: on life's margins. So if you're looking for too, you know,

24
00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,319
Speaker 1: little Christmas love, holiday season love, or just because you

25
00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,560
Speaker 1: think giving the charity is good for you as well

26
00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,240
Speaker 1: as it is for the recipients of your charity. The

27
00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,840
Speaker 1: Help's blocket your use your help so they're try there

28
00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,640
Speaker 1: at Linkfitybofcarsey dot com. A lot more there as well.

29
00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,040
Speaker 1: I had a great time, you say, listener launch wonderful

30
00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,280
Speaker 1: seeing everyone appreciate the folks, pricesal chili, the return of

31
00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,080
Speaker 1: Rebecca Prime Grappy who actually took a whole bunch of pictures.

32
00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,319
Speaker 1: I put them up on my Facebook page, reposted from

33
00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:48,400
Speaker 1: whence she posted smiles around great time. Mister humanitarian himself

34
00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,640
Speaker 1: one of many Bob Wetter as Santa Claus handing out

35
00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,480
Speaker 1: candy canes. And of course he's the man behind the

36
00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,720
Speaker 1: wish tree. If you run into a wish tree, grab

37
00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,480
Speaker 1: an ornament and get a gift for someone in need.

38
00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,160
Speaker 1: They are all over town, hundreds of wish trees. And

39
00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,600
Speaker 1: I salute Bob for his efforts going all the way

40
00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,120
Speaker 1: back to the mid eighties. I think he was like

41
00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,200
Speaker 1: manager at Shilotos or something. Shilotos there's a name from

42
00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,800
Speaker 1: the past. Anyway, it was wonderful time. I had a

43
00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,840
Speaker 1: great time, put a smile on my face. Selfish, yes, perhaps,

44
00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,600
Speaker 1: but looking around the room looked like some people were

45
00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,560
Speaker 1: having a good time and cribbage. Mike my submarine or friend.

46
00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,280
Speaker 1: I beat him. Ah. I think I'm better than fifty

47
00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,200
Speaker 1: percent ahead of Mike for the calendar year twenty twenty five.

48
00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,480
Speaker 1: So we ended it on at least another positive note

49
00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,200
Speaker 1: for me coming up on the fifty five Casion Morning show.

50
00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,480
Speaker 1: Got a fast forward seven five. I will do my

51
00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,519
Speaker 1: best to come up with something to talk about between

52
00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,320
Speaker 1: now and then, but I could sure use your help

53
00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,680
Speaker 1: because after the listener lunch, it was the iHeartMedia Christmas

54
00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:52,880
Speaker 1: party that was very well attended too, And so I

55
00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,520
Speaker 1: was here and you know, if there was an open

56
00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,920
Speaker 1: bar and plenty of orders and things like that, and

57
00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:06,040
Speaker 1: I overslept this morning desperately. Five one, three, seven, two

58
00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,960
Speaker 1: to three talks Congressman Warren Davidson at seven oh five.

59
00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,120
Speaker 1: We're talking about Bitcoin for America Act. Yeah, we'll learn

60
00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:21,960
Speaker 1: together about that. One healthcare reform question, Mark, what do

61
00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,359
Speaker 1: we do to reform the healthcare system? It's a good question.

62
00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,280
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why it's just kind of hanging out there

63
00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,960
Speaker 1: on the topic list, does Congressman Warren Davidson have any

64
00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,680
Speaker 1: ideas about healthcare reform? I hope so. And taking out

65
00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,839
Speaker 1: narco terrorists with politicians all over the board on that one,

66
00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:42,360
Speaker 1: that was kind of again we talked about with Judge

67
00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,600
Speaker 1: ended of Politano that was a subject matter of his column.

68
00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you got you have politicians from across the

69
00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,960
Speaker 1: board taking multiple different positions, none of them really I

70
00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,400
Speaker 1: think saying like we have to engage in some act,

71
00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,320
Speaker 1: we have to file a lawsuit, we need to have

72
00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,240
Speaker 1: a hearing, we need to impeach. I don't know if

73
00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,800
Speaker 1: you don't like Trump dropping bombs on the narco terrorists

74
00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,680
Speaker 1: that are hanging out on the coast of Venezuela fifteen

75
00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:14,000
Speaker 1: hundred miles away, and I really think congressional action. I'm

76
00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,480
Speaker 1: one of the people who believes that there's a rule

77
00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,880
Speaker 1: of law. And those who out there screaming and worrying

78
00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,520
Speaker 1: about an imperial presidency. Oh my god, we've got Ji

79
00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,640
Speaker 1: Jinping running the show here. Fascist Donald Trump can do

80
00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,839
Speaker 1: whatever he damn well pleases. That's part of the argument

81
00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,440
Speaker 1: that I'm making, although I'm not you know, I don't

82
00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,320
Speaker 1: believe Donald Trump is the fascist that I know that.

83
00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,680
Speaker 1: There's a huge difference definitionally speaking between what we have here,

84
00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,760
Speaker 1: what reality is, what the definition of fascism and socialism

85
00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:52,320
Speaker 1: and communism are. I get all that, But is he

86
00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,840
Speaker 1: free to do this? Obama did it, Bush did it,

87
00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:02,760
Speaker 1: Biden did it. Everybody's running around dropping bombs on bad guys.

88
00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,600
Speaker 1: And the only justification, the only reason no one seems

89
00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,160
Speaker 1: to be resisting the whole concept of the president's ability

90
00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,159
Speaker 1: to randomly drop bombs on any given region to the

91
00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,279
Speaker 1: world because the motivations behind it. We approve of who

92
00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,320
Speaker 1: wants drugs in our country? Nobody except the drug users,

93
00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,480
Speaker 1: I suppose, and the dealers who sell it, very small

94
00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,920
Speaker 1: percentage of the population compared to the rest of us.

95
00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,839
Speaker 1: The rest of us would like a crime free environment

96
00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,320
Speaker 1: without drugs and around people dropping debt all over the place,

97
00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,240
Speaker 1: ruining the streets and taxing our social welfare state. Great.

98
00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,440
Speaker 1: The goal of ending drugs into our country is admirable.

99
00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,039
Speaker 1: I don't know anybody sheds a single tier when one

100
00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:48,000
Speaker 1: of those narco terrorists gets blown up, But what's the

101
00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:55,120
Speaker 1: legal predicate behind it? See, that's important to me. I

102
00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,799
Speaker 1: obviously it was important to founding fathers with checks and balances.

103
00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,560
Speaker 1: They didn't want a king, they just got rid of one.

104
00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,919
Speaker 1: So depending on who you talk to, you know, one side,

105
00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:16,560
Speaker 1: basically the screw it side. Representative Tim Burchett, Republican out

106
00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,839
Speaker 1: of Tennessee, so the strikes didn't require Congression approval, saying

107
00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,360
Speaker 1: that US had waited too long to confront what he

108
00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,520
Speaker 1: described as a drug trafficking and terror financing threat. Quote.

109
00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:31,279
Speaker 1: These guys are bringing drugs into our country. Pause factual statement,

110
00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:39,040
Speaker 1: no kidding, they're killing Americans. Factual statement, no kidding. It's

111
00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,719
Speaker 1: long overdue. It's of course, referring to blowing up boats

112
00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:52,520
Speaker 1: off the coast of Venezuela. Trump gets that. He said,

113
00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:57,280
Speaker 1: that's why he does executive orders, because we, meaning Congress,

114
00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,560
Speaker 1: ain't got the guts to do anything. And ah, maybe

115
00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,800
Speaker 1: he just stumbled upon the big problem we've got here.

116
00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,239
Speaker 1: There's so much division in this country. Anything Donald Trump

117
00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,360
Speaker 1: wants to do can't get legislative or congressional approval because

118
00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,720
Speaker 1: anything Trump wants to do, the Democrat's gonna say no to.

119
00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,920
Speaker 1: And you need more than we've got on the Republican

120
00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,880
Speaker 1: side of the legend to get it done. And just

121
00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,440
Speaker 1: of course, what I believe to be the constitutionally appropriate

122
00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,160
Speaker 1: view of a guy like Senator Ram Paul who says

123
00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,400
Speaker 1: you need congressional authority to start waging war out there,

124
00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:36,240
Speaker 1: and Democrats screaming and yelling about this but not proposing anything.

125
00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,360
Speaker 1: And again they can't look in the rear view mirror

126
00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,840
Speaker 1: because nobody said anything. Well, some Republicans did when Obama

127
00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,560
Speaker 1: was doing the same thing, except he was doing it

128
00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,280
Speaker 1: pursuing into the two thousand and one going way way

129
00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,880
Speaker 1: back to the post nine to eleven Terrorist Actions authorization

130
00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,120
Speaker 1: and used the military force to go after terrorists. I

131
00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:02,400
Speaker 1: suppose it turned into a terror generally speaking. So see

132
00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,239
Speaker 1: that's the lynchpin right there. Maybe Donald Trump still operating

133
00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,840
Speaker 1: under the prior authorization to use of military force, because

134
00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,880
Speaker 1: all you need to do, apparently is call someone and

135
00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:17,000
Speaker 1: label a group a terrorist organization, and then when you

136
00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,000
Speaker 1: blow them up, you can say I was blowing up terrorists.

137
00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:27,600
Speaker 1: What is the definition of terrorists under those the parameters

138
00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,600
Speaker 1: that we seem to have now for the bombing of

139
00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:36,600
Speaker 1: people anywhere in the world. It's a very confusing subject matter.

140
00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:42,679
Speaker 1: Is this is again why I wish we had I

141
00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:49,240
Speaker 1: suppose a more unified Congress looking at this practically, as

142
00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:54,480
Speaker 1: opposed to politically, looking at it from a legal perspective,

143
00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,440
Speaker 1: as opposed to the oh my god, evil Orange man

144
00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:03,720
Speaker 1: wants to do it. So no perspective, no response to

145
00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,400
Speaker 1: anything Trump does by way of policy. That's the platform

146
00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,360
Speaker 1: of the Democrats right now. It's Trump says it. It's good,

147
00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:20,000
Speaker 1: it's bad, So anyway you can listen. I get a

148
00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:25,320
Speaker 1: lot of grief from my grief pushback, shall we say,

149
00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,400
Speaker 1: from comments suggested to PAULA.

150
00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:27,600
Speaker 4: Town.

151
00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:32,520
Speaker 1: I'm not defending him and his positions, and we all

152
00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,559
Speaker 1: kind of appreciate the fact that he's not a huge

153
00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,320
Speaker 1: Trump fan himself. I mean, there is no question about

154
00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:42,280
Speaker 1: that in my mind. But he does raise important constitutional

155
00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,840
Speaker 1: and legal points about what is going on, and his

156
00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,920
Speaker 1: criticisms aren't completely exclusive to Donald Trump. Again, going back

157
00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,920
Speaker 1: to all the prior presidents and administrations, this seems to

158
00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:58,000
Speaker 1: be the norm because what we're trying to achieve is

159
00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,480
Speaker 1: collectively viewed by both republic and Democrats as a good thing,

160
00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,440
Speaker 1: i e. Keeping drugs out in this particular case, keeping

161
00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:09,320
Speaker 1: drugs out of our country. If you throw out the

162
00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,120
Speaker 1: constitutional reality of a need for a declaration of war.

163
00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,200
Speaker 1: If you throw out legal norms and international law and

164
00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,760
Speaker 1: all the other laws, ethics and morals and everything. If

165
00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,040
Speaker 1: you throw them out the window, and you have a

166
00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,520
Speaker 1: person in a position to wage a war against these

167
00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,280
Speaker 1: people who are bringing drugs in, then expedience wins a day.

168
00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,920
Speaker 1: What do you want? I want drugs out of my country.

169
00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,880
Speaker 1: Go ahead, do whatever it takes. Is effectively, where we

170
00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,240
Speaker 1: are a president that can literally do whatever he wants

171
00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,280
Speaker 1: in order to achieve the goal that we all agree upon.

172
00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,600
Speaker 1: There's your imperial presidency, at least in so far as

173
00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,319
Speaker 1: waging war. Is that something you really want? I mean,

174
00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,520
Speaker 1: you feel a little bit safe under the Trump administration,

175
00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:55,360
Speaker 1: maybe because in the case of my listening audience, he's,

176
00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,959
Speaker 1: you know, our guy, he's your guy. We'd much rather

177
00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,560
Speaker 1: have a Donald Trump and the pre and then see

178
00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,080
Speaker 1: that Joe Biden wandering around aimlessly being guided away from

179
00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:09,400
Speaker 1: little children by rabbits, someone who completely checked out of

180
00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,439
Speaker 1: the job and was being manipulated by puppet masters behind

181
00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,920
Speaker 1: the scene. The autopen is a really key example of that.

182
00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,080
Speaker 1: There's no records that he even approved a lot of

183
00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,079
Speaker 1: the autopen. That's why Donald Trump said the other day

184
00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:26,640
Speaker 1: that those autopen executive orders have been rescinded, so a

185
00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:31,520
Speaker 1: rudderless ship. Well, apparently we actually had rudders in the

186
00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,000
Speaker 1: form of the people telling Joe Biden what to do.

187
00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,400
Speaker 1: But because Trump is quote unquote our guy, I'm not

188
00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,240
Speaker 1: comfortable with him being able to do whatever the hell

189
00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:47,600
Speaker 1: he wants, even though what he's doing is something I want.

190
00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,160
Speaker 1: In other words, eradicating evil so and so's who bring

191
00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,800
Speaker 1: drugs into our country. There's when we get to that expedience.

192
00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,520
Speaker 1: Is he getting the job done? Yeah, he is, got

193
00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:03,959
Speaker 1: videotape proven it. Does he have the authority to get

194
00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,320
Speaker 1: the job done in the way he is doing it? Now,

195
00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,920
Speaker 1: that's where we kind of run off the rails. But

196
00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,160
Speaker 1: all the political commentators and all the politicians who've chimed

197
00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,800
Speaker 1: in on this will say something either it's okay and great,

198
00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,440
Speaker 1: go ahead and do it. Everybody's been doing it for

199
00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,199
Speaker 1: years and years now all the way over to this

200
00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,440
Speaker 1: is illegal. He shouldn't be doing. What he's doing is

201
00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:29,320
Speaker 1: committing murder. Nothing in there during this debate has resulted

202
00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,839
Speaker 1: in sort of how do you stop it? If it's

203
00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,880
Speaker 1: wrong what he's doing, What mechanism is in place to

204
00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,840
Speaker 1: stop him from doing it. And then there's just like

205
00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,240
Speaker 1: theory in the law called latches. If you let something

206
00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,959
Speaker 1: go long enough, if you've abided by what has been

207
00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,560
Speaker 1: going on long enough, then you're precluded from making an

208
00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:47,680
Speaker 1: argument that you can't do it.

209
00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:47,920
Speaker 5: Now.

210
00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,640
Speaker 1: Look, we've got precedent here, going all the way back

211
00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,000
Speaker 1: to George Bush at two thousand and one, the authorization

212
00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,599
Speaker 1: used military force. We've got precedent for this. That's not

213
00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,800
Speaker 1: a declaration of war. It just gives the president massively

214
00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,920
Speaker 1: that now has been going on for a couple of decades,

215
00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,760
Speaker 1: to pretty much do whatever he wants. This is the

216
00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,280
Speaker 1: bed that has been made, and Donald Trump obviously taking

217
00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:13,800
Speaker 1: advantage of the bed that's been made. Brian Thomas says, fine,

218
00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,160
Speaker 1: the results seemed to be working, but I don't find

219
00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,199
Speaker 1: it to be necessarily constitutional. Five point three seven fifty

220
00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,760
Speaker 1: five hundred. I told you I didn't get enough sleep

221
00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,640
Speaker 1: last night. I was busy and I didn't know what

222
00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about. So there's your rambling introduction

223
00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,000
Speaker 1: to the fifty five Krsing Morning Show for this Thursday.

224
00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,000
Speaker 1: Feel free to call it a chime in. I'll be

225
00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,319
Speaker 1: right back after these words.

226
00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,120
Speaker 6: This is fifty five KRC and iHeartRadio station.

227
00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,000
Speaker 1: Each and every one of you. Let's start with New

228
00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,319
Speaker 1: Hampshire Gary, Jay, Dave hang On, be right with you,

229
00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,600
Speaker 1: New Hampshire, Gary, Welcome back to the Morning Show. Welcome.

230
00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:47,400
Speaker 4: How you doing?

231
00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,240
Speaker 1: How you doing, Brian, I've been better.

232
00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:54,319
Speaker 4: I'm going to take I'm going to take you on

233
00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,560
Speaker 4: a little bit explode the exploding boat part.

234
00:13:58,840 --> 00:13:59,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

235
00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,319
Speaker 4: I kind of unders stand you're you're coming from a

236
00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:08,160
Speaker 4: legal perspective because you are a lawyer. However, I got

237
00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,160
Speaker 4: to tell you, as a general, I think the mass

238
00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:15,200
Speaker 4: people who have voted for Trump or those type of people,

239
00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,520
Speaker 4: that this is exactly what they voted for. You want

240
00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,400
Speaker 4: to see these boats blow up? Okay, to the.

241
00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:27,560
Speaker 1: Other hand, I'm this is the thing. You've got something

242
00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,960
Speaker 1: we all uniformly agree on from a you know, a

243
00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,320
Speaker 1: perception state. But do we want illegal narcotics out of

244
00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,680
Speaker 1: our country? Yes, it's illegal to use narcotics, it's illegal

245
00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,400
Speaker 1: to fery narcotics, illegal trafficking. I want them all dead.

246
00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,960
Speaker 1: But how do you get to that point? Lawfully? I'm

247
00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,040
Speaker 1: stuck with the law.

248
00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:50,320
Speaker 4: And this is the whole thing, This is the whole thing.

249
00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:56,240
Speaker 4: In a nutshell, that people have absolutely zero confidence in

250
00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:01,120
Speaker 4: our law or in the judicial branch is completely failed

251
00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,680
Speaker 4: us time and time and time and time again because

252
00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,360
Speaker 4: how many people were executed or went to trial for

253
00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,720
Speaker 4: nine to eleven? Well, how many people have you seen?

254
00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,040
Speaker 4: The law has absolutely failed. And actually I think it's

255
00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,280
Speaker 4: a little intentional because we can go all the way

256
00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:25,280
Speaker 4: back to the college education system. Our leaders have failed

257
00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:30,680
Speaker 4: us in the legislative and that includes Republicans have absolutely

258
00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,280
Speaker 4: failed us. So when the system fails, you don't care

259
00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:38,240
Speaker 4: about the system that's failing you. You want a solution.

260
00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,240
Speaker 4: And the solution is I want somebody in there who's

261
00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,320
Speaker 4: going to kill people who are doing bad things.

262
00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,800
Speaker 1: And why doesn't that embrace what doesn't that embrace what

263
00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,560
Speaker 1: I believe the left ultimately once, which is the complete

264
00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,360
Speaker 1: destruction of our country. You're talking about people's frustration with

265
00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,760
Speaker 1: our system, our constitutional system, separation of powers and all

266
00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,560
Speaker 1: of that. That what you're talking about is just ignoring

267
00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,720
Speaker 1: that because it is broken in the sense that there

268
00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,360
Speaker 1: is no you know, the Congress is not working collectively,

269
00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,320
Speaker 1: it's not working to our collective advantage. It's busy fighting

270
00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,720
Speaker 1: amongst themselves and not bringing about any results that benefit

271
00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,440
Speaker 1: the American people. So with that, you're like, well, throw

272
00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:23,880
Speaker 1: it all out. That's exactly what this division, this dividing

273
00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:28,040
Speaker 1: our country over every single issue is all about. Giving

274
00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,480
Speaker 1: people saying I give up the Constitution is screwing us

275
00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,920
Speaker 1: because there's too many impediments of getting something done. The

276
00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,280
Speaker 1: Congress doesn't work, it won't pass laws, it won't do

277
00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,840
Speaker 1: something to fix our overspending. It's broken. So somebody just

278
00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,520
Speaker 1: get in there and say we're going to do this

279
00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,200
Speaker 1: without any authority and do it. I hear it, I

280
00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:46,640
Speaker 1: see it.

281
00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:51,640
Speaker 4: I think along with the theory it's called bottom up,

282
00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,280
Speaker 4: top down, and inside out, that that goes along with

283
00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,120
Speaker 4: that theory of how to create a revolution. Yeah, but

284
00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,720
Speaker 4: I'm not saying throw the Constitution out. I'm saying that

285
00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:07,360
Speaker 4: the will of our leaders are mostly Democrats, but there

286
00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,800
Speaker 4: are a lot of Republicans who want this system to

287
00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:15,399
Speaker 4: fail so that they can so they perpetuate. Bring the

288
00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,720
Speaker 4: drugs in. You know, it's the same thing we look

289
00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,800
Speaker 4: at Chicago with gun control. Bring the guns in. They

290
00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,520
Speaker 4: love when more guns come to Chicago. They just don't

291
00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,800
Speaker 4: want the law biting though them, right, they get control.

292
00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,480
Speaker 4: Same thing with Cincinnati, or if you want to see

293
00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,520
Speaker 4: a cess pool. Look at any major city like the

294
00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,080
Speaker 4: city of Cincinnati, the roving gangs and the mobs, and

295
00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:43,200
Speaker 4: they want that. The leadership wants that, you know, because

296
00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:47,520
Speaker 4: it's good for them. Well, okay, yeah, it creates embarrassment,

297
00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,920
Speaker 4: but they get control overall the city.

298
00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,840
Speaker 1: Through fear, well and the fear of I guess the

299
00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,560
Speaker 1: narco terrorist is the president control without congressional authority to

300
00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:03,040
Speaker 1: go blowing things up. It's it's it's a breakdown of

301
00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:07,280
Speaker 1: our system across the board. And I don't think anybody,

302
00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:12,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know this. This is the frustrating part.

303
00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,200
Speaker 1: But regardless of where you are on this, just giving

304
00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:21,159
Speaker 1: someone random authority to just do whatever to get it done,

305
00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:27,000
Speaker 1: whatever it happens to be, that ends up resulting in

306
00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,840
Speaker 1: an undermining of the core principles upon which this great

307
00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,840
Speaker 1: nation was founded. And that is the disturbing element in

308
00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,280
Speaker 1: all of this. And I don't know what the solution is.

309
00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:44,840
Speaker 1: It is politically expedient and effective, yes, for him to

310
00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,120
Speaker 1: blow up narco terrorists and before the boats even get

311
00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,800
Speaker 1: close to us. I guess I'm of the mind that

312
00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,880
Speaker 1: if you really have an executive that is in charge

313
00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,840
Speaker 1: of the military that can act on his own to

314
00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:00,680
Speaker 1: protect us from eminent harm. Then wait for the damn

315
00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,159
Speaker 1: boats to get close to our waters, and then you

316
00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,320
Speaker 1: can say, look, here it comes. They're getting ready to

317
00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,639
Speaker 1: flood our market and kill our people with the drugs. Okay,

318
00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,000
Speaker 1: now blow them up, or just get the coastguard to

319
00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,960
Speaker 1: pull them over, arrest them and prosecuting for drug crimes.

320
00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,199
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, that's the way things have been

321
00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,800
Speaker 1: working for a while. We got the border shut down

322
00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:23,320
Speaker 1: under Trump that did not require some extra constitutional effort.

323
00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,359
Speaker 1: It was just Donald Trump saying, no, we're going to

324
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,800
Speaker 1: enforce the immigration laws that are already on the books,

325
00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,400
Speaker 1: something Biden could have done forever. But you know why

326
00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:34,040
Speaker 1: he didn't, because the Democrats wanted to naturalize and legalize

327
00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,679
Speaker 1: all the twenty million illegal immigrants that had already crossed

328
00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,240
Speaker 1: the border, and they weren't going to concede and close

329
00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 1: the border under current law until they got what they want.

330
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,119
Speaker 1: They never got what they wanted. Enter Donald Trump. He

331
00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,600
Speaker 1: enforces the law on the books that I can embrace

332
00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:54,680
Speaker 1: because the law's already there. If we had an open

333
00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 1: border under the law, if everyone was entitled to come

334
00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,560
Speaker 1: in and Donald Trump shut it down and said no

335
00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 1: one can come in. That'd be something different, that will

336
00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,240
Speaker 1: be sort of beyond the reach of the executive branch.

337
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,520
Speaker 1: It will be him unilaterally doing something that the law

338
00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,639
Speaker 1: doesn't allow for. But that's not the circumstance. But in

339
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 1: this I argue that it's different, and I get where

340
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,600
Speaker 1: you are coming from. I just don't like the undermining

341
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 1: of our constitution. Slippery slope, Jay and Dave hang on

342
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,480
Speaker 1: five twenty eight right now. If you five cares so

343
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,399
Speaker 1: the talk station, you would be right back straight to

344
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 1: the homes. Let's get Dave real quick here. Dave, Welcome

345
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 1: to the show. Everybody else, hang on for a minute.

346
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 1: I'll take all the calls I can get there today, Dave,

347
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,200
Speaker 1: thanks for holding. Welcome to the show.

348
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,080
Speaker 7: Hi, thank you, Brian. Let me take a call. I'll

349
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,360
Speaker 7: listen to you a lot on my way to work

350
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 7: every morning on Monday through Friday. The question I got

351
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,919
Speaker 7: is that I know I voted for President Trump. I

352
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 7: like what he's doing and the Constitution. I think sometimes

353
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 7: he wants to do.

354
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 8: What he's got to do, but he has to do.

355
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 7: Like he said, like he's talking to the guy before Congress,

356
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 7: ain't doing anything, so he to do what he has

357
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 7: to do to get things going on. And the question

358
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 7: I got for you too, I guess this is more

359
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 7: of a domestic one. I know he's labeled some organizations

360
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 7: as domestic. Uh is he able to do the same

361
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,679
Speaker 7: thing to them as he's doing with the drunk people.

362
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 1: Well, one could ask that question legitimately, Dave, because see,

363
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,120
Speaker 1: once you get into the whole concept of fast and

364
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 1: loose a you went into the realm of kind of well,

365
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,119
Speaker 1: maybe can you blow up somebody in the neighborhood. I

366
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 1: don't think so. We do have due process. And that's

367
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,399
Speaker 1: another pesky little thing that I embraced because listen, if

368
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm accused of a crime, I want due process. If

369
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,360
Speaker 1: it's think it's some like what happened to the January

370
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,919
Speaker 1: sixth protest is effectively the Biden administration labeled them a

371
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 1: bunch of terrorists. They prosecuted and they locked them up,

372
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 1: they treated them cruelly in prison, and most of them

373
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 1: really didn't do a damn thing. So was that right?

374
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 4: Mean?

375
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 1: No, I know, you see the fast and loose, the

376
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 1: slippery slope. That's why I cling to the idea and

377
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 1: the concept at least of these separation of powers and

378
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 1: the obligations of each branch to do what they're supposed

379
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 1: to be doing. When that breaks down, as it apparently

380
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 1: has in so many instances over the last well since

381
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 1: Trump showed up, Democrats have just used him as this

382
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: foil to divide the American people. Anything he does is

383
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: bad and evil and wrong, so they've got gridlock. Gridlock

384
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 1: results in something either not being done at all, or

385
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: someone like Donald Trump's saying, you know what'screwd You guys

386
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: aren't getting the job done. I'm gonna do whatever it

387
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: takes to get it done. I know you like the result,

388
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 1: but is it lawful? I don't know. Maybe he needs

389
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 1: to drop a bomb on who's been labeled a terrorist

390
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 1: organization of late Antifa. You got an Antiphah encampment packing

391
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 1: up and or you know, squatting in some parks somewhere.

392
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 1: Let's drop a bomb on them and we'll see what

393
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: happens after that. Maybe then the question will get answered

394
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 1: on whether or not it's a pro to do it

395
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 1: anyplace else. I'm obviously I'm expressing frustration, and they don't

396
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: even answer. I'm just pointing out the larger problem. That

397
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 1: I perceive. Who's next there, Joe Strecker, Oh a break?

398
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: Oh that I went over last time and I got

399
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: the Harry eyeball. So let's not do that. Let's get

400
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: Tom and Jay. You don't mind holding it right back

401
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: after I mentioned calling Electric because they've got a great

402
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: special going on right now at talk station by thirty

403
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: nine on a Friday Eve, Happy Friday, Eve three two

404
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 1: three talk. Jay didn't want to stay over the break,

405
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: but Tom did. Tom, welcome back, my friend, Happy Friday Eve. Well,

406
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: did we lose Tom, Joe, No, you gotta talk out loud.

407
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 5: Tom. I'm in that bad cell spot up here in Middletown,

408
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 5: so you went right to me while I was in

409
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 5: the middle of it. Am I still there?

410
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 1: Yes? You are go ahead?

411
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 5: All right? Great? Great?

412
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 4: Right?

413
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 5: Sorry he dropped off what I would say. I don't

414
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 5: deserve that, but I probably do.

415
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: Listen, we're just gonna declared that today a fast and

416
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: loose day. All right. We just let's just go on record,

417
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 1: because that's about how I feel today, Fast and lose,

418
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 1: a little hazy after yesterday.

419
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 5: I'm about the I don't know, the fast part maybe

420
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,959
Speaker 5: is in the loose part. Yeah, right, you know, I

421
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 5: have said this a bunch of times and I'll repeat

422
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 5: it again. The Constitution is only as good as the

423
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 5: people who are in place to uphold it.

424
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: Yep.

425
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 5: And it can be abused, it could be ignored, it

426
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 5: can be done all kinds of stuff to it. And

427
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 5: it's it really frankly, it's a piece of paper with

428
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 5: a bunch of work on it, and we need people

429
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 5: who are going to uphold it. There there is no

430
00:24:54,359 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 5: arguing that Trump is acting outside of his limitedations according

431
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 5: to the Constitution. I don't really think anybody can argue

432
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 5: with it. Yeah, we're all, we're all, I mean, at

433
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 5: least the people on the right side of the ledger

434
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 5: are like, yeah, blow them guys up, right, But if

435
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 5: you're gonna I mean, look, if the if the Democrats

436
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 5: get control of Congress, they're going to impeach him. You

437
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 5: know they're going to, and this is actually a good

438
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 5: reason to do it. How can you argue the stuff

439
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 5: they tried to impeach him with, you know before, Oh,

440
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 5: come on, that's bs and exactly right, exactly this one. Hey,

441
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 5: God him, he's outside of his boundaries. He I mean,

442
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 5: there's no there's no arguing it and I, and I'm like,

443
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 5: why would you, why would you give them something? Maybe

444
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 5: he doesn't care anymore, Well he should care because there's

445
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 5: a midterm election coming up. You have to do things,

446
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 5: you know, make decisions based on right and wrong, and

447
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 5: you have to use moral principles. I believe that's the

448
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 5: way you're supposed to make decisions. But you can't forget

449
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 5: about the political implications of it. It can't be politics first,

450
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 5: but it can also not be don't worry about the

451
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 5: politics at all because the rest of us are gonna

452
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 5: suffer from this. We're gonna pay the price if enough

453
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 5: people turn on Trump and turn on the Republicans and

454
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 5: then we go back to Democrat control, We're gonna suffer

455
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 5: for it. So come on, yeah, So, so what do

456
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 5: we do in the meantime, us unwashed masses? How do

457
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 5: we handle this? Well, we have to if we want,

458
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 5: let's make it legal. Let's let's put enough people in

459
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 5: there who are going to back Trump. Then at least

460
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 5: we can say, hey, they all voted on it, and

461
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 5: they agreed to it, and they gave him permission. Let's

462
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 5: let's whoever it is Trump or whoever it is after that,

463
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 5: let's get enough people in there who will agree with

464
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 5: our side, and that way we don't have to worry

465
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 5: about this garbage. So of course, the best answer for that,

466
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 5: the best solution is don't vote Democrat. Have a great day, Brian.

467
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: Enough people that want to put in a guy who

468
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: agrees with their side, and let's just say their side

469
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: is the are the policies of Democrat socialists who would

470
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: trot upon our constitutionally protected rights in the name of

471
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 1: achieving whatever goal they want. That's that's the kind of

472
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: the danger that I'm talking about. Generally speaking, I want

473
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: Narco Terra's dead, but I want it done pursuing to

474
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: a legal authority, even if it's just an authorization to

475
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: use some military force, which the constitutional purest Brian Thomas

476
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: would argue isn't even constitutional itself. Nothing in there for

477
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: that five aout three seven hundred eighty three. Talk Jay,

478
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: If you want to give me a callback, that's fine.

479
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: Somebody else that's cool too. Let's get to a stack

480
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: of stupid story while I have a moment in time

481
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: and I don't get the hairy eyeball for going over

482
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: time with Joe. Three people arrested after authorities in what

483
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: state are we in Florida, specifically the Florida Keys. They

484
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 1: filed as this tradition. They were found having sex while

485
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: heavily intoxicated in a wind Dixie parking lot in the

486
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: middle of the day that I mentioned it was three people.

487
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: Debutie's called it the grocery store noontime Saturday, found all

488
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: three individuals engaged in sexual acts Plural Court of Moreau

489
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: County Sheriff's Office. They were all taken to jail. Sharon

490
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: hinz Zepplinski forty five, a Marathon, charged with unlawful exposure

491
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: of sexual organs, disorderly intoxication, and resisting without violence. Debutie

492
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: said it was her second arrest for similar public conduct

493
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: over the past three months. Recidivist Marshall Adam Lowry forty three,

494
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: a Key Largo, charged with committing unnatural lacivious acts and

495
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: disorderly intoxication. Yeah, I'm speculating on what unnatural lacivious acts

496
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: means myself. And finally, Michael McDonald Howard fifty nine, a

497
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: Marathon charged with unl awful exposure of sexual organs and

498
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: disorderly intoxication. Yeah. The only thing missing from this it's

499
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: a win Dixie parking lot, not a Walmart. Five forty

500
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: five fifty five kree E Talks Station. Jimmy care fireplaces though,

501
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: Jimmy caarefireplates is though the right people think about care

502
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: ce De Talk Station looking forward to seven oh five

503
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: Piresman Warren Davidson, followed by Senator John Houstead with his

504
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: balanced budget constitutional amendment proposal. Let's go to the phones. Cleveland.

505
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: Al is on the line. Al, welcome back. Good to

506
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: hear from you this morning.

507
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 9: Good morning, Brian, and good morning everyone. Happy that dilated

508
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 9: Thanksgiving and hope we all have a blessed Christmas.

509
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: A man t.

510
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 9: Yes, well, I just wanted to touch base and give

511
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 9: you a little different perspective. I believe we already have

512
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 9: de facto king in the form of the Uniform Party

513
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 9: that has been pretty much dictating to us for the

514
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 9: last fifty to sixty years. And what I see Donald

515
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 9: Trump as is the modern day William Wallace fighting against

516
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 9: the tyranny, and he's doing the best he can with

517
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 9: the situation that's at hand. So, you know, if we

518
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 9: look at it from the perspective of we have abdicated

519
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 9: the control by giving it to four hundred and thirty

520
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 9: five tyrants that have become a BORG. You know, it's

521
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 9: a little less a discomforting given what djt's trying to

522
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 9: do at this point, I will leave it at that. Well,

523
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 9: fair enough, Yeah, and don't go yeah, don't quote democrat.

524
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, fair enough.

525
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe if there were all Republicans there would be

526
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: it would be different. Maybe they would say, listen, we

527
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: got to rally around Donald Trump because he's trying to

528
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: keep drugs out of the country. So at least this,

529
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: let's pass an authorization for you some military force against

530
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: narco terrorists that would at least legitimize the thing. But again,

531
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: you get into the realm of fastor lowis when you

532
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: are right, whether it's a BORG, a unit party, we

533
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: we have what I would argue is maybe an abdication

534
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: perhaps and even intentionally of our representatives and their responsibilities,

535
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: just because perhaps they know Donald Trump will at least

536
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: get the job done because of political expedients and ignoring

537
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: the constitutional reality is how it's supposed to work. And

538
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: that opens the door for when the Democrats get their

539
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: guy or gal, as the case may be, in office,

540
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 1: for them to do the same thing. Again. This this

541
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: is not this this this whole quote unquote imperial presidency.

542
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: If we want to boil it down to that, this

543
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: isn't a creation of Donald Trump, going back to the

544
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: whole idea that this conversation has been involved or really

545
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: sprung from the bombing of boats in Venezuela. What president

546
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: preceding Donald Trump hasn't done pretty much the same damn

547
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: thing over and over and over again. The none other

548
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: hands are cleaned along these lines. The stage, the stage

549
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: has been set for him to continue doing the same thing.

550
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: I'm just again more of a purist when it comes

551
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: to the division and power, of the separation of power

552
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: and what you know, what is supposed to happen before

553
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: the bombs start flying. Okay, stack is stupid. We go

554
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: to Atlanta, specifically KNYE, Georgia, where police have a suspect

555
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: and custody after a shootout inside a crowded restaurant. When

556
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: the SWAT had to show up, SWAT team's got to call.

557
00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: Shots fired at Chiquito's Cantina and grill fired shovel shot.

558
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: Several shots led to customers pulling out their own guns.

559
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: Please said the gunman fired more shots from outside, but

560
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: nobody got shot or hurt went back to the restaurant.

561
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: Bullet holes can be seen in the aftermath in the

562
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: windows and doors. One of the customers described it as

563
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: like the OK Corral, saying, boy, these people are crazy.

564
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: Officers called in the swat team look for the shooter.

565
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: They surrounded the house less than a mile away. That's

566
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: where they found him. Walked officers walked three people out

567
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: of the home. Police confirmed that one of them was

568
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: in fact the suspect. They haven't released his name yet.

569
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty funny because the customers all

570
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: pulled out their guns. Reminded me of listener lunch. I

571
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: always say I'm in the safest environment at a listener

572
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: lunch and thanks every day. He showed up yesterday because

573
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: while I was consuming beer at listener lunch, ergo it

574
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: did not have my concealed carry weapon with me because

575
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: I abide by the law. I know a whole bunch

576
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: of listeners in the room always have their concealed carry

577
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: weapons with them and they are not consuming alcohol. So

578
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: you have basically built in protection at a fifty five

579
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: KRC listener ontch. Thanks to price el Jelly for doing

580
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: that and real quick here ninety one year old man

581
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: arrested on suspicion of threatening a police officer and an

582
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: obstruction of justice after the officer saw him urinating on

583
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: the street and asked him about it. This why are

584
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: you doing that well? According to the police, the officer

585
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: on patrol sowdomn urinating on the street about three in

586
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: the afternoon on a Monday. Officer asked the men to

587
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: show some identification. The man became angry, threatened the officer,

588
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: saying he would knock him out, and then kicked the

589
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: police car. Arrested for public indecency. This happened in Japan,

590
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 1: ninety one years old. Yeah, give him prompts for being

591
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: feisty even at ninety one five fifty five right now,

592
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: fifty five KRCD talk station. Let's see if we can

593
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: muddle through the six o'clock hour. All the help I

594
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: can get his walk five one, three, seven, four, nine,

595
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two to three

596
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: talk time five fifty on AT and T phone. Donald

597
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: Trump doing us all props and getting rid of this

598
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: stupid arbitrary market force, ruining cafe standards. That more coming

599
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: up today today, you know fifty five krc D talk

600
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: station six or six FI fifty five kr CD talk station.

601
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: Happy Friday, E Brian Thomas right here, welcoming all the

602
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: phone calls. You want to give me a call and

603
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: talk about something, feel free to explain to me the

604
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: crazy constitutional crisis we seem to find ourselves in. Still

605
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: trying to make sense of it myself, of course, springing

606
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: from the last hours conversation that sort of sprung from

607
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: judgment Poulaitano's analysis and others commenting about the legality of

608
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: or lack there of the blowing up of boats. I

609
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: think it's a reflection of a broader constitutional crisis we

610
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: seem to be going through. But coming up one hour

611
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: from now, in terms of the upcoming guests on the

612
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: Morning Show, can't wait to get Congress Davidson back on

613
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: the program. Coming up one hour from now, seven oh five,

614
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: the Bitcoin for America Act. We'll get to learn together

615
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: about that one. Maybe you already know about it, but

616
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: I'm interested in hearing what Congressman Davidson has to say

617
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: about that. Will also talk healthcare reform and yes on

618
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: the list of topics with Davidson or Congressman Davidson taking

619
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: out narco terrorists will get his viewpoint on that one.

620
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: Senator John Houston talking about his new constitutional amendment behind

621
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: the well, a balanced budget amendment, talk yesterday with Americans

622
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: for Prosperity about that. I think it's a great idea,

623
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: and this is something that has been talked about for decades. Yeah,

624
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: it's like banning our elected officials from insider trading. They've

625
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: been talking about that for a long time. They never

626
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: did vote on that one. But how about a balanced

627
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 1: budget amendment? That'd be great. John Houston on that at

628
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: seven thirty eight oh five with Michael Park documentary the

629
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: last six hundred meters and then of course it is Thursday,

630
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: eight thirty means I heard media aviation expert Jay Ratliffe.

631
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: I love wrapping up a Thursday segue to Friday with

632
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: Jay Rattlift and a whole bunch of topics. I'll be

633
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: surprised that we can get them all in, but we'll

634
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: do our best on that. Some funny ones and some

635
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: interesting ones is typically the case. Five one, three, seven, four, nine,

636
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eight to two three

637
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: talk found five fifty on ET and T phones. I'm

638
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: getting a kind of kick out of this. So we

639
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: have Donald Trump's announcement about Cafe standard yesterday. Cafe standards

640
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: started in nineteen seventy five, the Corporate Average Fuel Economy Standards,

641
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: regulations for the average fuel economy on a fleet of vehicles,

642
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: with the I guess now aim at lowering vehicle emissions.

643
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: I think originally it was designed to get better gas

644
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: knowledge out of automobiles. Remember automobiles in the seventies, Maybe

645
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: you don't. They were huge, They waited alive. There were

646
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: trunks that could hold eight ten dead bodies in them

647
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: if you wanted at least half a dozen sets of

648
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: golf clubs. But gas got expensive, remember the oil embargo

649
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: Opak early seventies, lines around the corner. We needed to

650
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: do something about getting more efficient cars because we were

651
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: reliant on Middle Eastern oil because I guess technology hadn't

652
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: caught up. But the whole idea of not drilling was

653
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: a real neat concept. Let's worry about I don't know,

654
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: the pollution, the environment. Whatever brought about the refusal to

655
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: drill and tap into our own resources led to this

656
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: sort of reliance on Middle Eastern oil, and we've been

657
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: reliant upon it ever since, but not so much of

658
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: late Trump's all above strategy. We produce more than anybody now.

659
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: We have access to oil and resources that we didn't

660
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: used to have access for. We have an abundance of

661
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: liquid or natural gas that we have so much of

662
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: that not only does it run electricity plants that used

663
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: to run on coal, it also is in such abundance

664
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: that we export it to other countries who apparently either

665
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: aren't tapping the resources or don't have the natural resources

666
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 1: to tap it themselves. So we're fueling the world with

667
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: our abundant resources. So what's with the cafe standards?

668
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 4: Right?

669
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: Why do we need cars that they claim, you know,

670
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: in defiance of the laws of physics, which maybe need

671
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: to be repealed, said one idiot behind the scenes environmental

672
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: regulator writer. But so he makes this announcement yesterday. Car

673
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: companies are on board. Jim Farley a Ford that's as

674
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: America's largest auto producer. We appreciate Trump's leadership and aligning

675
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: fuel economy standards with market realities. We can make real

676
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: progress on carbon emissions and energy efficiency while still giving

677
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: consumers choice and affordability. A win for customers and common

678
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: sense affordability can you afford a new car average new

679
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: car price fifty thousand dollars fifty now if you don't

680
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: have fifty grand to buy a new car, if there

681
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: was a car option available that didn't have bells and

682
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 1: whistles on it. I think cars are now mandated to

683
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: have backup cameras put in them, at great expense to you,

684
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 1: the consumer. You have to have one eat a backup camera.

685
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: Did we survive as a nation without backup cameras up

686
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: until the most recent moment in time? Were you able

687
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: to look out the side view mirrors or maybe ratchet

688
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: your head around and look out the rear window and

689
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: back your car out successfully? Yes, I know toddlers have

690
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: been run over by cars. Maybe it's incumbent upon us

691
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: to perhaps do a walk around our car to make

692
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: sure there are no obstructions and we know where our

693
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: children are before we start driving around. There's a thought,

694
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: that's the way it used to work. Accidents do happen.

695
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: An accident happens. It's tragic. We need a law, we

696
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: need a mandate. Let's mandate backup cameras. But there's an

697
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: abundance of additional options in cars, not options mandates and

698
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 1: cars that weren't there originally. You have to have abs breaks. Yes,

699
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: they're a brilliant technology. Personally, as a consumer, if I

700
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: was going out to buy a car and I had

701
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: an option between a car with anti lock breaks without,

702
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: I would choose the one with I would pay extra

703
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: to have that amenity. But we survived as a world

704
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: without those for a long time. Choice is important, especially

705
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: when it comes to affordability in this unbelievably inflationary world

706
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: we find ourselves in anyway, as the cafe standards that

707
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: really impacts the price of a car. Trump's claiming this

708
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: is going to say the consumer one hundred and eight

709
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: ten billion dollars. I don't know where the numbers come from.

710
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: I never do, but random, arbitrary, self inflicted wound they

711
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: have become. And of course, you know, once this green

712
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: you know, carbon output nonsense turned into a religion that

713
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: most people abide by. The push for all electric vehicles

714
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: came out of this. So cafe standards then became a

715
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: vehicle to force you into evs, to force manufacturers to

716
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: build something that the public wasn't demanding. Why because evs

717
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 1: don't emit pollution, Well, they do in the manufacturing process,

718
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: and they do in a whole bunch of other ways.

719
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: And there's a multitude of reasons why that EV is

720
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: not as environmentally friendly as they claim it is. But

721
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: at least it doesn't put out carbon die when you're

722
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: driving it around. That's the point. A CAFE standard is

723
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: for an entire fleet, you must achieve fifty miles per

724
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: gallon across your entire fleet. How do you do that

725
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: when the consumer demand for trucks is huge, Well, you

726
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: produce evs even though people don't buy them, and you

727
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: sell them at a loss That lets you offset, of course,

728
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: the overall carbon output from your entire fleet, making it

729
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 1: look as if you've achieved a random, arbitrary standard announced

730
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: by the EPA behind the scenes through a regulation subject

731
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: to change on a whim. Going back to the whole

732
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: idea of new presidencies mean new rules, Biden increased the

733
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 1: CAFE standards after Trump lowered the CAFE standards during his

734
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: first term. Welcome to Trump term two, lowering the CAFE

735
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: standards back to something that is at least reasonable and

736
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: will provide us a greater choice. Wait for it, Donald

737
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: Trump's presidency will end, and they'll be a new one

738
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: and a new CAFE standard to say this makes sense, No,

739
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't. But there was another announcement the other day

740
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: along the lines of these environmental groups groups, there was

741
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: a letter from a multitude of groups Heartland Institute, Energy

742
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: and Environmental Legal Institute, Truth in Energy and Climate, and

743
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: the American Energy Institute, a coalition of what are described

744
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: as conservative groups representing the energy industry, hailing the regulatory

745
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: and fiscal wins for the Trump administration. According to Jason

746
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 1: Isaac's CEO of one of the groups signing the letter,

747
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 1: Hey Secretary Chris Wright has delivered the boldest course correction

748
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: in modern energy policy, and the results speak for themselves.

749
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: He has led the largest deregulatory initiative in a Department

750
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: of energy history, cut billions of wasteful green subsidies important

751
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: word that word subsidy, and restored a clear path to

752
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: American energy dominance. He halted dozens of harmful of clients rules,

753
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: streamline NEPA and EPA, canceled politically driven and I will

754
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: insert the word Chinese Communist Party benefiting wind, solar and

755
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: carbon capture spending, reignited us LNG and nuclear development and

756
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: use emergency authority to keep critical cold capacity online so

757
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: the grid stays stable when it matters most. What is

758
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: the goal here for the Trump administration? Stable abundant energy

759
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: production and output so the lights stay on, reducing the

760
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: insane regulatory roadblocks for us getting efficient and carbon neutral

761
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: nuclear power, for example. What's wrong with that? I would argue, nothing,

762
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: nothing at all. I love this though, according to Tim Donnighie,

763
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: Green Pieces USA research Director, these policies might be good

764
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: for Trump and rights rich corporate buddies, but they are

765
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: downright evil for working people. This is a quote from

766
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: this Greenpiece guy. The decisions made in the last nine

767
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: months are literally sucking money out of American's wallets and

768
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: putting it into oil industry bank accounts while pretending they're

769
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: making the country stronger. Now, pause for a moment. What's

770
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: the price of gas right now versus what it was

771
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago?

772
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 4: Right?

773
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: A lot lower, a lot lower. I'd say, that's not

774
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: sucking money from my wallet. It's allowing me to keep

775
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 1: more of my money in my wallet. Why abundant above

776
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: across the board energy policy? He went on to say,

777
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: the sad thing is the Trump administration policies are creating

778
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: more pollution that will make America is sick. Every year,

779
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty thousand Americans die younger from being

780
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: exposed to toxic air pollution from burning fossil fuels. We

781
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: need that number to go down these winds, all but

782
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 1: guarantee it will go up. Really, anybody want to ask

783
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 1: out loud, where in the hell he pulled three hundred

784
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand Americans dead, What specific orifice that figure

785
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: came from, and what statistics in reality it's based upon. Now,

786
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: with the advent of a catalytic converter, most of the

787
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: pollutants that automobiles used to produce aren't there anymore. The

788
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: whole thing boils down to over and over and over

789
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: and over again. They point to carbon dioxide, which again

790
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: I will point out as plant food. It is not

791
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: a pollutant's naturally occurring part of our atmosphere. Why are

792
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: we struggling mightily to get rid of it? Because it

793
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: works for the connected green energy folks. Not only is

794
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 1: it bad for our nation's security by taxing the grid

795
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: that we live on, moving more and more toward electric

796
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: in the name of this myth of catching all the

797
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 1: carbon dioxide makes us less stable, and it rises the

798
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: price of everything. What are they doing? They're taking your

799
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,959
Speaker 1: appliances away from you. You can't use natural gas to cook? Really,

800
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: are you really taking away my natural gas stove? Is

801
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: going to change the world. No, it's going to make

802
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: things more expensive. There's been report after report after report

803
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: after report showing that these moves, and these so called

804
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: environmentally friendly changes directives issued, the mandates issued by behind

805
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: the scenes regulatory writers and drafters of rules make it

806
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: more expensive for you and I to live. Flies right

807
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: in the face with this Greenpeace guy is saying, give

808
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:50,280
Speaker 1: us flexibility, give us choice. That's what this administration is about.

809
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: And I embrace that all day long, in spite of

810
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: the criticism I have along certain other line six p

811
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: nineteen Steve, I'm taking your call as soon as we

812
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: get back. I want to mention Gate of Heaven Cemetery

813
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: because tomorrow they're doing a wonderful, wonderful thing. I think

814
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: my wife and I may even attend. She mentioned she'd

815
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 1: liked to see the event. That event tidings of comfort

816
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: and joy for if you have KRCD talk station, Happy Friday.

817
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: Eve've gonna go straight to the phones given me little

818
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: amount of time we have in the Segon. Let's see

819
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,720
Speaker 1: what Steve's got this morning. Steve, thanks for calling. Welcome

820
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: to the show.

821
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 10: Absolutely before I get to my point, the three hundred

822
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 10: and fifty thousand number, perhaps they the guy dreamed it

823
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 10: and had one of those dreams like you had, where

824
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 10: he's so convinced it's surreal. Because my thing on on

825
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 10: the green movement is where's Pete with these windmills killing?

826
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 5: Oh, I've heard millions.

827
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 10: Of birds and mac are slaughtered by them, and you

828
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 10: don't hear a peep from them, which is amazing. Apparently

829
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 10: they don't. But with the Narco boats and it's a

830
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 10: gray area. But this, and this is related this guy

831
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 10: Mangioni that walked up behind the CEO of the medical

832
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 10: firm or insurance company and shot him in the back

833
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 10: of the head and it's on camera and they know

834
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 10: it was his gun and then you know he's dead.

835
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 10: The rights you always hear him described as the alleged killer. Yeah,

836
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 10: now now, and I'm gonna ask you a question. I'm

837
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 10: serious about this. You had Andrew Napolitano on there yesterday

838
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 10: and he said Pete heg Seth is a murderer. He

839
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 10: didn't say alleged, you know, And I'm like, you know,

840
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 10: be careful there is it?

841
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 11: Is it?

842
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 10: Because heg Seth is a is not a private individual.

843
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: That he can say that if if this man's the

844
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: only guy walked around and admitted that he had blown

845
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: that guy's head off, the word alleged would not be

846
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: in the article. The word alleged is in there because

847
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: in the United States, you are innocent until proven guilty.

848
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: He hasn't been through the proven guilty part. Now you

849
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: and I might look at the video and say this

850
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,720
Speaker 1: is a no brainer. It's open and shut. The jury's

851
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 1: going to be out for like five minutes and they'll

852
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: render a guilty verdict. But in these modern times, when

853
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: we do have question marks surrounding literally everything that's on

854
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 1: video because of artificial intelligence and deep fakes and things

855
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: of that nature, you got to give him his day

856
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: in court. If I think the press, in using the

857
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 1: word alleged, which happens all the time, is a mechanism

858
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: to prevent them from being sued, because if you accuse

859
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 1: someone of committing a crime, it can be in print libel,

860
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: per sweat, per se, so if he was found not

861
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: guilty of murder and you called him a murderer, they

862
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: might sue you because you've accused him of something that

863
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: falls into libel per se, meaning it's presumed to be

864
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: libelists unless the truth, the truth is a defense to

865
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: the libel per se. So that's just it's just a

866
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: I've been living with that reality for a long time.

867
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: You laugh when they say alleged, we all know the

868
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 1: guy did it, but give him his day in court

869
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: and then say murderer.

870
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 10: You know what I roll my eyes on. And this

871
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 10: happens all the time, is when somebody is described as

872
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 10: a gentleman, I mean insantly, And I don't know if

873
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 10: these people don't just why don't they just say the

874
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 10: man or the individual. I don't, but if you listen,

875
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 10: and you'll hear the gentleman, and I'm like, this is

876
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 10: this is the polar opposite of what a gentleman would do.

877
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 10: One other thing about Napolitano. Yesterday, he indicated that he thought, uh,

878
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 10: he didn't really say that. He said Hegseth's time is

879
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 10: going to be short. The Secretary of Defense or or whatever,

880
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 10: I think he'll be there the entire four years.

881
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: I'm inclined to agree with you. Listen, he's been on

882
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: this program now for what more than ten plus years.

883
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: He's made pronouncements along those lines before, and like Donald

884
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: Trump is in grave problems with whatever allegation in front

885
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: of whatever committee was sitting. No, he wasn't. Look he's

886
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: still around. He didn't get impeached, he didn't get thrown

887
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: out of office. So wrong on that prediction. I've made

888
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: erroneous predictions too. I think hag Zeth will be a

889
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: lot around, a lot longer than judging the Politanus. So

890
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: we can feel free to disagree with his tea leaf reading.

891
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: No problem with that. Appreciate the observations. Yeah, alleged murderer

892
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: until proven guilty. Six twenty seven, Bobby, your next hang

893
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: on five, one, three seven for nine.

894
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 12: K the talk station.

895
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: Six thirty two fifty five KCD talk station, Happy Friday,

896
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 1: Real Quickly, going back to that guy who from green Peace,

897
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 1: he said, three undred and fifty thousand people or you know,

898
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: die from asthma related complications or something like that, so

899
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: we can't cut the cafe standards. Chip said, well, that

900
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: figure hasn't changed for a long time. It's globally. Globally,

901
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: four hundred and sixty one thousand people in the world

902
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: die from asthma. Like, wait a minute, there's seven plus

903
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: billion people in the world, and it's a fraction of

904
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: that four and sixty one thousand people. If you acknowledge

905
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: it pollution cause the asthma and the complications that resulted

906
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: in death from asthma, and that it was pollution that

907
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: did it, I imagine the vast majority of that figure

908
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: globally lived in countries that are polluted hellholes, not the

909
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: United States, which is not a polluted hellhole. Bobby, welcome

910
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: to the program, Thanks for calling this morning.

911
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 13: Happy Thursday, Happy Thursday, My brothers, fates, flag, family, and firearms.

912
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 13: You keep those who always be able to keep your freedom,

913
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 13: one would hope, Well, we had a couple shootings down

914
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 13: price Hell and everything, so it's hard to handicap the

915
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 13: shootings on Thursdays when the weather it's bad like it is,

916
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 13: so they'll have to keep all their activities mostly inside.

917
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 4: I guess.

918
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no sports book on number of deaths in

919
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: any given area as far as I know. Maybe they'll

920
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: start doing that.

921
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 14: We held off on during the holidays, you know, what

922
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 14: I'm saying, Thanksgiving and everything.

923
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: Anything else. Bobby, Hey, well I got one more thing.

924
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 14: Cincinnati, they're really progressive. One more thing, one more percent

925
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 14: they're going to charge you to spend money in Cincinnati.

926
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 14: They're just squeezing and squeezing the poor.

927
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: People of the city, aren't they Seems to me.

928
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 4: You know that extra percent where they go build another

929
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 4: hotel or something where nobody.

930
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's each term about the voluntary tax, the

931
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: one percent voluntary tax. Yeah, within a certain segment within

932
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: the city. If you're a business, you can voluntarily give

933
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: a penny on every dollar it's spent at your business

934
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:39,240
Speaker 1: to pay for the Marriotte Hotel. Okay, they're already building

935
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: the damn thing. That's why I said, is this a

936
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: retroactive way of coming up with the money that they

937
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: don't have to finance it? How many businesses will voluntarily

938
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: give up one point of their percentage of profits when

939
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: businesses such as restaurants barely survive with their typically average

940
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: five percent profit margin. I don't know that it sounds

941
00:54:58,160 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: like a good idea, but clearly that cost is going

942
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: to be passed along to the consumer. You're gonna get

943
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: a one penny per dollar order increase, and so that

944
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: costs will be passed off like all taxes are passed off.

945
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: So I always say, businesses really don't pay taxes. They

946
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 1: just pass that tax along to the end consumer of

947
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: the good or service that they're selling. That's the reality

948
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: of it, which is well, yeah, costly to everybody, So

949
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: go ahead, tax the billionaires will just pass along that

950
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 1: tax to you and I for whatever it is they're selling.

951
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: Thanks Bobby, faith flab fat flat flag and freedom. I

952
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 1: kind of agree with you on that. Six thirty five.

953
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: We can use a little bit more of all that

954
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: USA installation talking about saving money on energy, burning less

955
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: carbout KRC detalk station. I'm stuck on these these green

956
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: groups arguments about Trump's you know, slashing all of the

957
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 1: new the green energy crap. Of course, dealt with the

958
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: Cafe STANERG yesterday, which is a win for everybody. Gives

959
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: you a choice. You want to buy an evy buy one,

960
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: you buy an internal question engine, you cold buy one

961
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: that I have no problem with that take carbon dioxide

962
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: out of the equation. Now, if you can just give

963
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: up your religious leanings right now for a moment, and

964
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 1: if you take the argument that carbon dioxide's bad. Out

965
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: of the arguments that are being advanced here, they don't

966
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: have anything to rely on. And I find it almost

967
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: it's almost laughable, and that these arguments from the so

968
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: called green activists can even have any traction whatsoever. Environmental

969
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 1: Working Group Bernadette del Ciaro, she's the chairman of this,

970
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 1: I guess it's one of these environmental groups who's angry

971
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: about Donald Trump's efforts to roll back these ridiculous and

972
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: I would immediately point to inflationary creating green energy products

973
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: claims to the exact opposite, claiming it's a giveaway to

974
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: the fossil fuel industry that will result in greater pollution,

975
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: higher energy costs, and fewer choices for consumers. Now, fewer

976
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: choices for consumers if you can choose us from let's say, wind,

977
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: hydro power, solar, gasoline, natural gas, coal, and nuclear, that's seven.

978
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: Or if you have to go down the green energy

979
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: folks road, you've get hydro power, you get solar, and

980
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: you get wind. That's three choices. So let's throw the

981
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: nonsense out that it's fewer choices for consumers. More choice

982
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: means lower price, right, because it's the laws of supplying demand.

983
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: If seven different things can provide you an abundance of

984
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: energy or at least energy, and you take away five

985
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: of them or four of them, obviously the price is

986
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: going to go up. There's only a finite amount of

987
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: space for windmills and solar anyway. But let's move away

988
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: from that now. Is it a giveaway to the fossil

989
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: fuel industry? Same thing, laws of supplying demand. More natural

990
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: gas and more gasoline generally or oil generally speaking, means

991
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: less price. Check out. The global price of a barrel

992
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: of oil when we produce more goes down. When OPEK

993
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: agrees to increase production, the price tends to go down.

994
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: How does that benefit OPAK or the fossil fuel industry.

995
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: The price is lower, That means a profit margin is lower.

996
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: It's just insane. This del ciarro guy slashing support or

997
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: woman Bernadette. You never know these days, though, do you.

998
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: I don't know who Bernadette identifies as, but we'll just

999
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: say Bernadette. Then, slashing support for wind and solar cripples

1000
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: US leadership in the rapidly expanding clean energy economy. The

1001
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: fictitiously created economy brought about by the claim the carbon

1002
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: dioxide's dangerous to everybody. There would be no wind in

1003
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: solar industry if it wasn't for that nonsense, self inflicted wound.

1004
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: These rollbacks kill jobs, strand private investment, and hand global

1005
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: economic advantage to China, just as the rest of the

1006
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: world races towards cheaper, cleaner and more competitive energy sources. Well,

1007
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: let's wake Ms Bernadette delcherro up again and remind her

1008
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: of what's happened in Europe, who follows her advice and

1009
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: did try to end to the extent it possibly could

1010
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: all carbon dioxide output. Their economy has been ruined headline.

1011
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: Just the other day, I even commented about the article

1012
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 1: Europe's green energy rush slashed emissions and cripple the economy.

1013
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 1: Germany's economy has gone into the toilet. Energy prices in

1014
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: Germany are double what we pay. How is it more

1015
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: affordable going down the green energy road? How is it

1016
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: more affordable? The only way it is affordable is when

1017
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: government comes in and offers a subsidy to take away

1018
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: the pain from the policies that they followed. Those subsidies

1019
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:57,439
Speaker 1: obviously dig their economy into a deeper hole, because well,

1020
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: you're spending a whole ton of money sub pizing the

1021
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: energy payers on the tail and to make it look

1022
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: like your policies aren't impacting them. But you obviously have

1023
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: to cut corners elsewhere in your budget. But you also

1024
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: drive companies away that really would like to do business,

1025
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: perhaps in Germany where yeah, they had a decent workforce

1026
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: up until recently, but you might want to go there.

1027
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: But when there are other options in the world, even China,

1028
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: where they still burn coal and anything else, they want

1029
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: to keep their economy rolling along while laughing at us.

1030
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,479
Speaker 1: And that energy industry that this Delchiara person's talking about,

1031
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: of course, is the green energy the manufacturers of windmill,

1032
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,479
Speaker 1: solar panels and other green related technology that doesn't produce

1033
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: carbon or captures carbon, an energy economy that is dominated

1034
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: by the Chinese, benefiting our biggest foe out in the world.

1035
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: If you want to look at things from an existential

1036
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: threat to the United States of America, China be number

1037
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: one again. Take concerns of carbon dioxide out of the equation.

1038
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: They've got nothing at all to stand on six p.

1039
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: Forty five right now fifty five cares to the talk

1040
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: station Mike I see her on the screen. I'll be

1041
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: more than happy to talk to if you don't mind

1042
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: holding a moment and let me steer you in the

1043
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 1: right direction. And that's share Facts Credit Union formally. Well,

1044
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: I guess they merged with Emery, but I banked with

1045
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: Emory forever. Share Facts no different than Emory. A better

1046
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 1: way to bank shaffacx Credit Union. You are really more

1047
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: than a customer. You're actually a member and a part owner.

1048
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: See de talk station after the time of their news

1049
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: Congressman Warren Davidson, followed by Senator John Houstad, and I

1050
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 1: mean in answer to the question Kevin, I won the

1051
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: cribbage game yesterday against cribbage Mike. Kevin, my pitmaster barbecue

1052
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: friend was at listener to lunch. He didn't stay around

1053
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: for the game, but he did ask. So I'm proud

1054
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: of beating cribbage Mike. Mike, bring your a game next year.

1055
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 1: Let's go to the phone. See what Mike's got other

1056
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 1: different Mike, Mike, welcome to the show. Thanks for holding.

1057
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 1: Good to hear from you.

1058
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 3: Hi, right, I'll think about the two in the atmosphere,

1059
01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 3: so video ones are there and dead. I think it

1060
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 3: was the house had some climate experts in and one

1061
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 3: centator or congressman asking was like, what's you know what

1062
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 3: the percentage of DO two is in our atmosphere? None

1063
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 3: of them do no, will take a guess. He's either're

1064
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 3: like four percent, six percent, eight percent. He's like, no,

1065
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 3: it's point five. That's up from point four. If it

1066
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 3: gets the point three, plants start dying because that's their food.

1067
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 1: And illustrating the point that I make all the time,

1068
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: it's not a pollutant naturally occurring part of our atmosphere

1069
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: that literally is responsible for plant life on the in

1070
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: the world. It's not. I mean, if plants lived on

1071
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 1: if that's lived on mercury or lead, then we might

1072
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: have a real problem, you know, coexisting with plants. Human

1073
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: beings maybe weren't meant to exist in an environment like that.

1074
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: But CO two doesn't bother you or me, especially such

1075
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 1: low percentages. But boy, the plants are sure damn happy

1076
01:02:56,320 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: that it's there. It's right, that's the insanity all this again,

1077
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: I keep going back. If they were talking about eliminating

1078
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: mercury or lead or harmful things that are dangerous to

1079
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: both plants and humans, that is in you know, you

1080
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: can make the argument all day long. We need to

1081
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: get rid of that stuff from the environment to the

1082
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 1: extent we can. That's why we don't have leaded gasoline anymore. Hey,

1083
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: here's an idea. Let's not put lead in the gas

1084
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: that is demonstrably dangerous to the environment, human beings, plants, everybody. Look,

1085
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 1: we eliminated. We still have gasoline, got catalytic converters, wh's

1086
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: burned up most of all the balance of the pollutants

1087
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: coming out right? Well, okay, Pat, welcome to the show.

1088
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: Happy or Happy Friday Eve to you.

1089
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 8: Good morning, mister Thomas. And that it is because I

1090
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 8: don't work tomorrow, so I get to be non productive

1091
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 8: in an employment.

1092
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 4: Good for you.

1093
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: Well, I hope you're off tomorrow, not because of your

1094
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 1: loss of a situation, but because it's your day off.

1095
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 8: Well, I actually had extra vacation that needed to be burned.

1096
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: Good for you.

1097
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 14: Pat.

1098
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 1: You know what, now that you brought that up, I'm

1099
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 1: taking Monday and Tuesday off for that exact reason. You

1100
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: smoke them. If you got them, use them or lose them.

1101
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 1: That's the philosophy at iHeartMedia. So I'm using them rather

1102
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 1: than losing them. Monday and Tuesday.

1103
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 8: You know, exactly, just a real quick During the time

1104
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 8: of the dinosaurs, when there were volcanoes going off everywhere,

1105
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 8: the CO two level and the atmosphere was high, plants

1106
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 8: were giant and so were dinosaurs. So that tells you

1107
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 8: a little bit about CO two. But getting to what

1108
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 8: I really wanted to expound on was politicians are whorees

1109
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 8: because they come in, get elected, get on a committee,

1110
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 8: make money, make stupid laws that don't benefit anybody, but

1111
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 8: somebody paid them to pass legislation that's going to benefit

1112
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 8: a select group, and in the long run, taxpayers end

1113
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 8: up paying for it exclusively, and they don't care. You

1114
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 8: got Warren Davidson's and some other men that are and

1115
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 8: women that stand up, but they're in a minority, and Brian,

1116
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 8: they're fighting, you know, they're fighting up.

1117
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:02,919
Speaker 1: For battle, right. It's an uphill battle. Why because people

1118
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: have been convinced that carbon dioxide plant food is bad.

1119
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: It's a religion. It's in our children's curriculum, I mean,

1120
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: the good They tried to.

1121
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 8: Convince my son of that climate change stuff. It's not

1122
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 8: one volcano pukes out more pollutants than most of humanity

1123
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 8: has in their whole existence. And when you've got seven

1124
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 8: of them going across, going off across the whole world. Uh,

1125
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 8: then you're you're gonna scratch your head and say, we

1126
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 8: need to change our cars. We need to have electric

1127
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 8: cars that you can only grib a couple hundred miles

1128
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 8: if we have to recharge. I said, this is a lie.

1129
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 1: Well, and and you know you're right on the accuracy

1130
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 1: of volcanoes in their carbon production. You're right at wildfires

1131
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: do the same thing. But you can take one country,

1132
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: China out of the equation. If you eliminated China, you

1133
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: would eliminate the vast majority of the world's pollutants. Then

1134
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: you have to worry about Turkey and India. But let's

1135
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 1: just deal with China right now, the producer of the

1136
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: vast majority of the so called green energy products that

1137
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 1: we're being forced through well regulations and well, this this

1138
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 1: faux religion that our children are being taught. That's why

1139
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,479
Speaker 1: we're embracing it. And it helps them while they build

1140
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: coal plants and belch out more pollution than we could

1141
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: ever hope to belch out in our lifetimes. There is

1142
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 1: that fun fact from Australia. Australia all the carbon emissions

1143
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 1: that they've eliminated the carbon dioxide emissions of Australia's elimited

1144
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 1: are negated by China's production of carbon dioxide through their

1145
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 1: energy like in eleven days. So congratulations, Australia crippled your

1146
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: own economy, made energy more expensive, and China just eliminated

1147
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: all of your efforts for a year in eleven days.

1148
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: How's that working out for everybody?

1149
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 8: I think the disclosure needs to be made. Who pay

1150
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 8: these people to come up with such stupid laws and

1151
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 8: beliefs and then say, hey, you know this is going

1152
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 8: to only benefit or whoever else, And in the meantime,

1153
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,919
Speaker 8: the rest of us have to say enough stupidity is enough.

1154
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 8: You're strangling us. But that doesn't matter.

1155
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 1: Well whether whether or not a paycheck as a result,

1156
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: Like you know, they're getting paid off to embraces. It's

1157
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 1: useful idiots. Once you convince them that the hockey stick

1158
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: or this particular hand picked, hand selected report which says

1159
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 1: carbon dioxide is bad, you convince them of that, they'll

1160
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 1: do anything to go down that road, and they'll keep

1161
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 1: waving it around. Oh my god, the hockey stick. We're

1162
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 1: all gonna die. The globe is going to incre and

1163
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 1: how do they know what the globe temperature is going

1164
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 1: to be one hundred plus years from now. They don't.

1165
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 1: They make it up statistics kind of suggest if we're

1166
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 1: on this direction, we're okay. Just convince somebody of that

1167
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 1: you've already owned them. You don't have to write a

1168
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: check for them. You don't have to get some lobbying

1169
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 1: interest to say you need to support this windmill project.

1170
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 1: You already won. They're member of the cult. Six fifty

1171
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: six fifty five KRSED talk station. Congressman Warren, it's seven

1172
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 1: oh six fifty five KRSEDE talk station. A man who's

1173
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 1: become man, thankfully so a regular that you're on the

1174
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 1: fifty five Cassee Morning Show. Appreciate his willness or come

1175
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: on and talk about these really important topics representing and

1176
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,439
Speaker 1: proudly doing so the eighth Congressional District from the state

1177
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 1: of Ohio. Congressman Warren Davidson, it is always a pleasure

1178
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: having you on the fifty five Carsee Morning Show. And

1179
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 1: welcome back, sir.

1180
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 5: Thank you, Brian.

1181
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 6: It's great to talk with you.

1182
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 1: And you're gonna have to do a little bit of

1183
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 1: splaining to me. I have have admitted many times over

1184
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: the years, the idea of cryptocurrencies like the peace of God.

1185
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: It passes all human understanding, at least for Brian Thomas,

1186
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 1: all types of different you know, cryptocurrencies out in the world.

1187
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 1: You've introduced a bill called the Bitcoin for America Act,

1188
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,680
Speaker 1: and so I offer you an opportunity to explain why

1189
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 1: this is important. Then maybe you can address some of

1190
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 1: the question marks I have swirling around my ignorance over

1191
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 1: cryptocurrency generally. How's that?

1192
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, bitcoin is the one thing in crypto

1193
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,799
Speaker 6: that if you have to name one thing about crypto,

1194
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 6: bitcoin comes up, and it accounts for half of, maybe

1195
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 6: a little more than half of the market share of

1196
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 6: everything known as crypto. And you know it, when I

1197
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 6: first took office, you could buy one bitcoin for about

1198
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 6: five hundred dollars, and in that time, now it's you know,

1199
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 6: I'm approaching one hundred thousand dollars. Again, It's had some

1200
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 6: movement up and down, but it's certainly accumulated value over

1201
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:22,600
Speaker 6: the long, longer.

1202
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 5: Period of time.

1203
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 4: And what does it do.

1204
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 6: It gives you a way to move money at the

1205
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,560
Speaker 6: speed of light. So you know, if you want to

1206
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 6: pay cash, well, okay, you get a physically hand the

1207
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 6: cash to somebody. We've been able to move money at

1208
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 6: the speed of light in some ways for a long time.

1209
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:38,640
Speaker 6: That's what credit cards let you do. You can put

1210
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 6: put your credit card in, you can do it on

1211
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 6: the internet. You can save your credit card number in

1212
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 6: your phone and click that and it comes up. So

1213
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 6: you know, hou's bitcoin different than those things. Well, there's

1214
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:56,639
Speaker 6: no corporate headquarters for bitcoin. There's no intermediary that makes money.

1215
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 6: You know, Visa and MasterCard make lots of money for

1216
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:03,680
Speaker 6: this risk. They provide and they make sure that you

1217
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 6: are who you say you are, that you're not buying

1218
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,640
Speaker 6: something from somebody who's different than they say they are,

1219
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 6: make sure you have credit. They do all that in

1220
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,600
Speaker 6: an instant so the work they do is amazing, but

1221
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 6: they charge for it. Bitcoin lets you do that where

1222
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 6: you could truly hold your own currency. Most people don't

1223
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 6: own it that way.

1224
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 4: Though.

1225
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 6: Most people own bitcoin, you know, kind of the same

1226
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 6: way they would own shares of ge they would have

1227
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 6: a fidelity account or in this case, Coinbase is probably

1228
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 6: the biggest thing people do, but it's essentially like a

1229
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 6: fidelity targeted initially at just buying crypto things. Now virtually

1230
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 6: everybody has the same kinds of service where you know, Fidelity,

1231
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 6: Schwab whatever, you can have an account and buy bitcoin

1232
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 6: or bitcoin ETFs or things like that. So people have

1233
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 6: accumulated all this value in there. It's no secret. I

1234
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 6: don't like the income tax, period. I don't like lots

1235
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:57,640
Speaker 6: of taxes, but you get to tax some things. But

1236
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 6: bitcoin is one of those things where the federal government

1237
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 6: when they would seize this and people say, oh, it's

1238
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 6: used for I listed finance, Well, not in the same

1239
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 6: rate that the dollar is. The dollars used massively more

1240
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 6: for a list of finance. But okay, people have paid

1241
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 6: money with bitcoin that way. We just see fifteen billion

1242
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 6: dollars worth of it from Cambodia and a scam center

1243
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 6: one hundred and twenty seven thousand bitcoins, and the government

1244
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 6: was like every agency seizing little pockets of crypto, and

1245
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 6: they were losing control of it. Some would say that

1246
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 6: we're stealing it because if you don't have the keys,

1247
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 6: it's electronic, it can get moved and you know, there's

1248
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 6: no headquarters that will reset your password. You lose the password,

1249
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 6: the money's gone, like losing a pile of cash.

1250
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 5: Right.

1251
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 6: So when Trump came in, he changed that and put

1252
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 6: an executive order saying, hey, we're going to let the

1253
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 6: you know, Secretary of the Treasury set up a thing

1254
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 6: at the Treasury Department where all of the bitcoin from

1255
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 6: the Department of Justice or any other part of the

1256
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:59,680
Speaker 6: government it gets in possession of the federal government. We're

1257
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 6: going to have one central testodium. And he caught it

1258
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 6: a strategic Bitcoin reserve, and he said, hey, look, we're

1259
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 6: going to sell off some of this other stuff that

1260
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 6: nobody really knows what is. Some of it really is

1261
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,679
Speaker 6: just a pump and dump scam and needs to be regulated.

1262
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 6: That's what I've tried to do is try to kill

1263
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 6: the pump and dump scams and protect the good stuff.

1264
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 6: And so that's what they wanted to do. But then

1265
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 6: they're like, how do we fund it? Well, there are

1266
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 6: some people that want the tax dollars to go buy bitcoin.

1267
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 6: I don't think that's a great idea, But what about

1268
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,959
Speaker 6: people that already have bitcoins just paying taxes with the bitcoin.

1269
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 6: And that's what this bill does. Let's you pay your

1270
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,679
Speaker 6: taxes with the bitcoin that goes to the bitcoin reserve.

1271
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 6: And the upside of that is is if you say, well,

1272
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 6: I'm tired of my tax dollars being wasted on xyz,

1273
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 6: and you think those things shouldn't be wasted on. If

1274
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 6: you put it into the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve, it doesn't

1275
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 6: even get spent, it gets held. That's what the executive

1276
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 6: order did, So it kindifies the executive order in that sense.

1277
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 1: Well, I always crypto is kind of weird because it's

1278
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 1: always expressed in terms of dollars, which is our fiat currency.

1279
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 1: And yet using bitcoin in little fiat currency seems a

1280
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 1: mechanism to lead toward the demise of the fiat currency

1281
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 1: because it is going to be used as an alternative form.

1282
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,600
Speaker 1: As you pointed out, it doesn't. It isn't centralized in

1283
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:14,719
Speaker 1: any given country.

1284
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 4: It is.

1285
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 1: It exists independently and free of you know, any regulatory

1286
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 1: control or government control anyhow. I mean, I like the

1287
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 1: freedom associated with it. But if it becomes a more

1288
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 1: stable form of paying for things, then you moving away

1289
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 1: from the dollar, which has some I would I would think,

1290
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 1: some pretty serious implications for the future of America's fiat currency.

1291
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 6: Well, there are futures. There are serious implications for the

1292
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 6: future of the dollar period. I know that, and that's

1293
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 6: part of what that's part of what the that's part

1294
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 6: of what the logic was for the creators or creator

1295
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 6: of bitcoin a pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto. So we don't know

1296
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 6: if there's one person or multiple people, or who did it.

1297
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 6: It's still a mystery. But in two thousand and nine,

1298
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 6: there's this white paper. You can read it at bitcoin

1299
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 6: dot org. It's a short paper, but it explains the

1300
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 6: logic of a permissionless system separated from any government, and

1301
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 6: it establishes trust. It's a different computing architecture, blockchain, So

1302
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 6: you can go way down into this and at the

1303
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 6: end of the day, it's like, well, you can go

1304
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 6: way down into the Internet. You don't need to learn

1305
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:21,520
Speaker 6: that there's a seven layer protocol and how IP addresses

1306
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 6: work and everything to enjoy using the Internet. And you

1307
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 6: don't have to do that to enjoy using bitcoin either

1308
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 6: or other things. But that's the problem, right is we're

1309
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 6: experiencing and affordability like housing. If you own the same

1310
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 6: house that you owned fifteen years ago, it's probably worth

1311
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 6: double what you paid for it fifteen years ago. And

1312
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 6: even if you didn't do anything, you didn't fix anything,

1313
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 6: you got the same water, heat, same furnace, same roof,

1314
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 6: everything and it's worth double.

1315
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 5: You're like, how is that?

1316
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 6: Well, your money got destroyed. We measure things in dollars

1317
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 6: because that's our currency, but the value of it is

1318
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 6: getting crushed. That's what inflation does. And inflation really is

1319
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 6: a tax. I mean, if Congress passed a set of

1320
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,680
Speaker 6: laws that said, you know, we're just going to take

1321
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 6: groceries up about thirty percent over the next five years,

1322
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 6: I mean, they would fire everybody. So they didn't do that.

1323
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 6: What they did is they give two trillion dollar death

1324
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 6: sits every year, plus a whole lot of trillions during COVID,

1325
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 6: and it newd the value of your money. It is

1326
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 6: essentially the same kind of tax, but it's even more

1327
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 6: dishonest than a tax in a lot of ways. So

1328
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:33,839
Speaker 6: it's terrible. And look at inflation. If you've got assets,

1329
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 6: if you've got a house already, and you have retirement

1330
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 6: savings and four to one k's and those things, you're

1331
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 6: looking at your portfolio and your value going, well, this

1332
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 6: isn't too bad. But if you're still just like graduating college,

1333
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 6: coming out starting out in life, you can't afford anything

1334
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 6: because you didn't have any assets to get inflated, and

1335
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,839
Speaker 6: that's it grows the wealth gap. The money is getting destroyed.

1336
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 6: And because the money was getting destroyed back when they

1337
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 6: were doing quantitative easy in the OITO nine financial crisis,

1338
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 6: that was sort of the inspiration behind bitcoin.

1339
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 1: Understand that and real briefly in terms of you know,

1340
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 1: types of cryptocurrency. I mean, you started out by acknowledging

1341
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 1: Bitcoin is pretty much the first. It's the most widely known,

1342
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 1: obviously the most valuable among all the various cryptocurrencies. But

1343
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 1: that volatility that I've seen in the market. You start

1344
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 1: out it's five hundred dollars. Originally it's one hundred thousand

1345
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 1: dollars now, you know, a month ago, and of course

1346
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm using random figures, pulled sphincter from sphincter, but it

1347
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 1: was worth twenty thousand dollars, and then next it jumps

1348
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 1: data fifty thousand dollars. There seems to be so much

1349
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 1: weird volatility in the crypto itself. I guess I kind

1350
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 1: of wonder, how do you what's it worth? I mean,

1351
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 1: is it worth what it's worth the moment you say

1352
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 1: pay your tax bill?

1353
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's how That's how would be valued so that

1354
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,639
Speaker 6: you know, if you pay your taxes, you know today

1355
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 6: you know view about ninety seven thousand dollars, but if

1356
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,679
Speaker 6: you paid it last week, two weeks ago, it would

1357
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 6: have been like eighty seven thousand dollars. So that's the

1358
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 6: kind of volatiley after. Part of that's because we haven't

1359
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 6: created good regulations in the United States, and there's probably

1360
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 6: a fair bit of market manipulation, so you don't have

1361
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,719
Speaker 6: the same kinds of controls over this that you would

1362
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 6: on the stock market. But that's led to other innovations

1363
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 6: like stable coins, so those are measured in dollars and

1364
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 6: instead of being backed by nothing but math, they're backed

1365
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 6: by treasury deposits in the bank. Or the one I

1366
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 6: like the most is started by a guy from Cleveland

1367
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 6: to Paxos Gold. So Chad Cascarilla has created this company, Paxos,

1368
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 6: and they've got an ounce of gold and vaults that

1369
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 6: are audited, not a promise to get some gold, but

1370
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 6: real gold sitting in vaults. Unlike Fort Knox, they audit

1371
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 6: it and it's tokenized, so the gold doesn't really move,

1372
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 6: but like I could move, you know, one ounce worth

1373
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 6: of gold to you and it's Essentially, here's permission to

1374
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 6: that ounce the same way that bitcoin works. And so

1375
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 6: you've seen a lot of innovations in the space, and

1376
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:01,719
Speaker 6: that's that's kind of what what drove the craze and crypto.

1377
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 1: Fair enough at seven to sixteen, we're gonna continue to

1378
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:08,799
Speaker 1: find out about healthcare reform and taking out the narco terrorist.

1379
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 1: Was talking about that earlier in the program. I also

1380
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:12,600
Speaker 1: talked about that yesterday with Judgennapaula Tany You get that

1381
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 1: podcast fifty five kr SEA dot com station fifty five

1382
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 1: KRC detalk station Happy Friday e Brian Thomas with Congressman

1383
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:23,560
Speaker 1: Warren Davidson. Let's move over to healthcare reform. And I

1384
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 1: don't call maintaining or even subsidizing insurance premiums to mask

1385
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 1: the realities of Obamacare a good idea, because like green subsidies,

1386
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 1: it hides the actual cost and the government ends up

1387
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 1: eating the picking up the tab so premium subsidies, of course,

1388
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 1: that led to the shutdown. Are we back to discussing

1389
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 1: these Congress and Davidson and are we going to lose

1390
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 1: some Republicans to the fear of reality setting in on Obamacare?

1391
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 1: What's going on with this one.

1392
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, look, yeah, that's exactly right. The subsidies

1393
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 6: they were added during COVID because as they said, well,

1394
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,560
Speaker 6: there's going to be a pandemic and it's bad, and

1395
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 6: so we're gonna we're just gonna have to prop up

1396
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 6: health insurance companies so they don't raise everybody's premiums. Well,

1397
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 6: that was a bad idea in the first place. No

1398
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 6: Republicans voted for that idea. And it's like, if you

1399
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:18,639
Speaker 6: were going to send money the hospitals and doctors would

1400
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 6: make sense. They're doing the treating or the patience would

1401
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,600
Speaker 6: make sense, right, but why would you give it to

1402
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 6: the middleman? Like that would be like the worst idea,

1403
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 6: And it, as you say, it masks the cost. You

1404
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 6: just keep dumping cash in there. And it's sort of

1405
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 6: like protection money protection from who the insurance companies like, well,

1406
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 6: you know, if you guys pay up, I mean, we

1407
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 6: could hold the rates down a little bit. Their version

1408
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 6: of holding rates down. If you've got an insurance on

1409
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 6: an Obamacare exchange, I guarantee over the past several years

1410
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 6: you haven't gotten well, rates have been under control. You're

1411
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 6: getting double digit increases, you're still getting claims denied, you're

1412
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 6: out of pocket. Max is still there. You're still getting

1413
01:19:57,320 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 6: ridiculous notifications that oh that was out in now work.

1414
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 4: Is like is it the same building?

1415
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 7: I was in the same room?

1416
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 6: How is it out of network? So all the frustrations

1417
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 6: people have with insurance is still there and we haven't

1418
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 6: fixed it.

1419
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 4: So it's been like, oh no, no, we fixed it.

1420
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 4: We sent the subsidies.

1421
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 6: And that's exactly what will happen if we continue these

1422
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,720
Speaker 6: instead of having a debate about how would we fix it?

1423
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 6: And you know, President Trump's done that on drug prices

1424
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 6: for example, he said, and let's do most favored Nation, Like, hey,

1425
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 6: you still own your company, price however you want. But

1426
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 6: if you'll sell th Zimpic to London for you know,

1427
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,679
Speaker 6: eighty bucks, you can't charge an American eight hundred bucks.

1428
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 6: So whatever you sell it for the best price in

1429
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,759
Speaker 6: the world is in America. You can have higher prices

1430
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 6: in other countries. That's up to other countries. But if

1431
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 6: you sell it for one hundred bucks somewhere, you're selling

1432
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:50,759
Speaker 6: it for one hundred bucks in America. And I honestly

1433
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 6: think that would be great if we did it. For

1434
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:54,599
Speaker 6: all things, like you get your bill, and it always says,

1435
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 6: you know, well it's ten thousand dollars, but since you

1436
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 6: have you know, Anthem or United or whatever, well one

1437
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 6: thousand dollars, right, And you know it's a made up

1438
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 6: number for made up procedure or whatever. But you know

1439
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 6: everyone's seen these explanation of benefits. The reality is, if

1440
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 6: you work at Procter and Gamble, you've got great health

1441
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 6: care coverage and PNG has a huge workforce and rightly

1442
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 6: has a lot of buying power. But if you work

1443
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 6: at a small business and you got twenty employees and

1444
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 6: one of the employees gets cancer, they're trying to spread

1445
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 6: that cost and risk over twenty people instead of the

1446
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 6: whole state of Ohio. So if you had the hospital

1447
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 6: provider saying, look, we charge you know, a thousand bucks,

1448
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 6: whether you're paying cash, whether you work at a small

1449
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:38,559
Speaker 6: business with twenty people or you work at a big

1450
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 6: business with two hundred thousand. Around the world, this is

1451
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 6: the price, same price, whether you've got insurance or you

1452
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 6: don't have insurance, whether it's this insurance or that insurance,

1453
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 6: all the insurance companies, we sell it to you for

1454
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 6: one thousand dollars, and you could pick your own price,

1455
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 6: but it would be fair if you had a functioning market.

1456
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 6: That's what would happen in a functioning market. That's the

1457
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 6: way gas prices work, right. It's not like one guy's

1458
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 6: going to get, you know, three bucks for a gallon

1459
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 6: and the guy next door is going to get four

1460
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 6: bucks for a gallon. It's going to quickly price it

1461
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 6: pretty close to three bucks. And it's not that you

1462
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 6: get charged a different price because you pulled up in

1463
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 6: a Buick and this other guy pulled up in a

1464
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 6: Toyota exactly.

1465
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 9: You know.

1466
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 6: So this is the way healthcare is broken because it

1467
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,600
Speaker 6: doesn't have real market forces. And so if we're not

1468
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 6: going to do real market forces, we should try to

1469
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 6: replicate it. And then lastly, what President Trump said is, look,

1470
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 6: you should send the money to the person. You know,

1471
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 6: we do it for food stamps, for example. We don't

1472
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 6: send the money to Kroger. We send the money to

1473
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 6: the person and they buy what they want. And they've

1474
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 6: made it legal to buy what you want, so you

1475
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 6: can't select and pick on your health insurance plans. They've

1476
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 6: prescribed a set of every plan has to cover X,

1477
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 6: y Z, and that rose prices because it said every

1478
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 6: plan has to have all these features on it. Some

1479
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 6: people don't want to need those features, and they made

1480
01:22:57,600 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 6: it illegal to buy such a product.

1481
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 1: Well, okay, Currently there is a Democratic proposal to extend

1482
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 1: the healthcare insurance premium subsidies, and that's the one that

1483
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 1: we're going to be I guess voting on upcoming. Whether

1484
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 1: or not you get Republicans capitulating to that insanity remains

1485
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 1: to be seen. But is there currently an alternative along

1486
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:17,839
Speaker 1: the lines of the market force proposal you just suggested

1487
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 1: of the Trump suggestion about letting the dollars go to

1488
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 1: the individual as opposed to the healthcare companies. Have we

1489
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:24,560
Speaker 1: got something like that teed up and ready to go

1490
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 1: as a foil to just continuing this nonsense of subsidies.

1491
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what they're working on. So there will be

1492
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 6: a vote in the Senate, because that was the deal

1493
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 6: that you know, soon reached with Schumer to get the

1494
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 6: vote to reopen the government. Right, But we didn't agree

1495
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 6: to anything in the House. Right And you know, frankly

1496
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 6: for Speaker Johnson, generally the rule is if you can't

1497
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 6: get fifty percent of Republicans, you're not supposed to put

1498
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 6: it on the floor, And I don't think there's any

1499
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:55,600
Speaker 6: chance that he could get fifty percent of Republicans to

1500
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 6: agree to this idea of just status quo funding for

1501
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 6: Obama Care. Now they might put it in there in

1502
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 6: exchange for market reforms, like okay, Well it'll take a

1503
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 6: little bit for these to get implemented. So we'll do

1504
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 6: another year, maybe two years on the outside of some

1505
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 6: status quo kind of subsidies. But we're pivoting towards this

1506
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 6: more market oriented approach over the next year, maybe over

1507
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 6: the next two years. So those are the kinds of things.

1508
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 6: There have been lots of bills for Republicans, we just

1509
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 6: haven't put.

1510
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:25,760
Speaker 5: Them into one.

1511
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:28,759
Speaker 6: So what I mentioned to you in that little dialogue,

1512
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 6: there is probably three or four bills of ideas. So

1513
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 6: we're trying to pick those right now, saying what is

1514
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 6: going to be the package, how would they interoperate with

1515
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 6: each other, and can we get that to the floor.

1516
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 4: Can we do it before Christmas?

1517
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 6: So those are the kinds of things that are going on,

1518
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 6: you know, back channel right now in order to hopefully

1519
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:48,679
Speaker 6: a good vote on the floor.

1520
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 1: Well, we can wait to see what happens, and I

1521
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 1: can only anticipate what's going to happen in the Senate.

1522
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:57,560
Speaker 1: It's going to ruin the concept, will undermine the Democrats,

1523
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 1: you know, dream of medicaid for all, which is of

1524
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 1: course Obamacare's the vehicle to bring that reality about. So

1525
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 1: ain't going to be smooth sailing regardless, I believe, Congressman

1526
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:10,919
Speaker 1: Warren Davidson. But we'll all be waiting with a popcorn

1527
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 1: out and wish you the best of luck and bringing

1528
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 1: about some more sense to them that problem we have

1529
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 1: with healthcare coverage these days. Congressman Warren Davidson, I thank

1530
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:21,680
Speaker 1: you so much for joining the program and appreciate your

1531
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 1: willingness to come on talk about these issues. I'll look

1532
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 1: forward to another conversation. Have a wonderful, wonderful week between

1533
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 1: now and our next talk.

1534
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 6: Yeah you as well, Brand always an honor. God bless

1535
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 6: you and all your listeners.

1536
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. Seven twenty eight. Right now we're hearing

1537
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:36,680
Speaker 1: from Senator John Hey's Ryan Thomas welcoming back to the

1538
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:39,759
Speaker 1: fifty five Cassey Morning Show. And what a great idea

1539
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 1: he's got. Senator John Houston, who is introduced. Oh my god,

1540
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 1: I've been dreaming about this my entire political life. A

1541
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 1: balanced budget amendment. Welcome back, Senator Houston. It's great having

1542
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 1: you on. I had a conversation the other day with

1543
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 1: I think it was vv. Ramaswamy or I can't remember

1544
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 1: specifically who I know Donovan and Neil from a Americans

1545
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 1: for Prosperity, And I said, you know, Donovan, I my

1546
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 1: entire political life, which began maybe when I was around

1547
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 1: a junior in high school or something, I've been dreaming

1548
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 1: of a balanced budget amendment. It sounds so common sense.

1549
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 1: We have to run our households on a balanced budget,

1550
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 1: at least most of us who were financially prudent. Anyway,

1551
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 1: How can you argue with this? How could this possibly

1552
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 1: bear a political stripe? It sound finance? Does this one

1553
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 1: have any hope because this kind of thing's been tried

1554
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 1: over and over again.

1555
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 12: So I think so, like I think so because so

1556
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 12: So let me just set the stage here because this

1557
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 12: is my you know, I worked in state government. In

1558
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 12: state government, we had to balance the budget. So your

1559
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:42,680
Speaker 12: mentality going into the budget process when you work in

1560
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 12: state government is okay, it's got to add up, it's

1561
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,720
Speaker 12: got a balance, right like that. You just you don't

1562
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 12: even have the concept that that's not going to happen.

1563
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 12: But at the federal level, because it doesn't have to happen,

1564
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 12: no one even thinks about what the consequences are of

1565
01:26:57,160 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 12: overspending because it's just what they do. And after spending

1566
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,599
Speaker 12: a little time here now, I realized that that it's

1567
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:08,639
Speaker 12: not going to get fixed until we force a solution.

1568
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:13,600
Speaker 12: And so the balanced budget amendment that I'm working on

1569
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 12: proposed is not something where it says, hey, you pass

1570
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:18,600
Speaker 12: this and then the next year it's going to be

1571
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 12: balanced and we're going to We're going to have ten

1572
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 12: years to get there, right, You got to You've got

1573
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 12: to get there over time, because there's no way you

1574
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 12: can get the votes for this if you don't phase

1575
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 12: it in. But I also know this that I've talked

1576
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 12: to many people in my life who have said I'm

1577
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 12: willing to do with I'm willing to take less from

1578
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 12: the government, I'm willing to give more to the government,

1579
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 12: but they don't trust the fact that it will actually

1580
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 12: do anything because we're not forced to have a balanced budget.

1581
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 12: So if you want to get people to make the

1582
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 12: sacrifices necessary, you have to prove to them that you

1583
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 12: will do you will act responsibly, and the only way

1584
01:27:57,479 --> 01:27:59,839
Speaker 12: you can prove it is with a constitutional amendment.

1585
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 1: Well, it's save me from myself, because you know the

1586
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:06,719
Speaker 1: promises of fiscal responsibility. We've been hearing that for years

1587
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 1: and on both sides of the Ledger, more so from

1588
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:12,600
Speaker 1: the Republican side, because it's been typically been part of

1589
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:16,840
Speaker 1: the Republican platform to engage in fiscal responsibility. And yet

1590
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:18,879
Speaker 1: we get stabbed in the back by the very Republicans

1591
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:22,320
Speaker 1: who articulate and argue about fiscal responsibility when they bring

1592
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 1: back the projects to their state, when they get an

1593
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:28,440
Speaker 1: opportunity to do so, which is not necessarily fiscally responsible.

1594
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 12: It is exactly right, but nobody's forced to do it.

1595
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 4: Like you.

1596
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 12: If you could eat as much as you want, and

1597
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 12: you know then you eat as much as you want,

1598
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 12: you would never reck if you didn't have to exercise

1599
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 12: to be healthy. If you could eat as much as

1600
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 12: you want, you do it like But in government at

1601
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 12: the federal level that there's no discipline, there's no mechanism

1602
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:56,120
Speaker 12: to force the discipline, and without it, eventually the discipline

1603
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 12: will come when people will no longer allow us to

1604
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 12: borrow money, or they'll jack up the rates that you

1605
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:05,360
Speaker 12: have that you're gonna have to pay to borrow money,

1606
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 12: and that'll be a catastrophe. Then that will be a crisis. Actually,

1607
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:12,720
Speaker 12: the balanced budget amendment I'm proposing is the easy way.

1608
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 12: The hard way will come when we eventually can no

1609
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 12: longer borrow money, and then it will be catastrophic. The change,

1610
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 12: the rate of change will be catastrophic to people. They

1611
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 12: won't be able to adjust it. What I'm proposing as

1612
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 12: a phase in.

1613
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 1: Well, that phase in that glide path, as it's quite

1614
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 1: often referred to, is not tearing the band aid off.

1615
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 1: You don't have to experience immediate pain. But you're exactly right.

1616
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 1: Their failure to engage in fiscal responsibility is bringing about

1617
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:44,759
Speaker 1: that very crisis. We won't have creditors anymore. The Fiat

1618
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 1: currency runs in jeopardy of becoming worthless and valueless, like

1619
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 1: it has in so many other countries that have run

1620
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 1: down this road and just run the printing press thinking

1621
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna work out and everybody's gonna be fine. No,

1622
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 1: you need a wheelbarrow full of money to buy a

1623
01:29:57,200 --> 01:29:59,680
Speaker 1: loaf of bread. How many times does that happen? And

1624
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:03,879
Speaker 1: yet it seems that everybody just ignores that painful, obvious reality.

1625
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 1: I mean, we do not have a lock on the

1626
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 1: default currency, with crypto out there and other currencies maybe

1627
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:14,680
Speaker 1: perhaps more financially managed better, maybe backed by something by

1628
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:17,720
Speaker 1: goal like gold or something. I don't know, but we've

1629
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:20,760
Speaker 1: just been blindly relying on that this is going to

1630
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 1: go on into perpetuity when it clearly cannot.

1631
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:27,799
Speaker 12: Yeah, and you know, as in preparation for this, I've

1632
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 12: looked at how hard this will be to do. Do

1633
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:33,719
Speaker 12: you know that they're other than China? There's not another

1634
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:36,719
Speaker 12: So let me back up. We have over a trillion

1635
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 12: dollars in interest payments a year in the United States

1636
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 12: on our national debt. Thirty eight trillion trillion dollars a

1637
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 12: year more than that go to interest in the national debt.

1638
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 12: You know, there are only two countries in the world

1639
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 12: who have a budget over trillion dollars, that's the United

1640
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:53,280
Speaker 12: States and China. Put in context the size of the

1641
01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:56,360
Speaker 12: problem that we have. And you know, people on the

1642
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 12: left have said, well, we just need to tax the billionaires, right.

1643
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:03,360
Speaker 12: Do you know if you confiscated all the money of

1644
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:06,639
Speaker 12: every billionaire in America, you still have a national debt

1645
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:09,559
Speaker 12: that's over thirty trillion dollars and then nobody to tax

1646
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:12,680
Speaker 12: for your free grocery stores. I mean, seriously, this is

1647
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 12: a problem that we have to, you know, treat with

1648
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 12: the urgency it deserves.

1649
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:20,360
Speaker 1: Well, you get one bite at the apple with a confiscatory,

1650
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:23,479
Speaker 1: with a tax like that, because if you acquire and

1651
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 1: take all of the billionaire's assets one year, they're not

1652
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:28,759
Speaker 1: going to be around next year to make any more money.

1653
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:33,080
Speaker 12: But I'm just trying to use it as an it's

1654
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 12: a well taken point. This is not going to You're

1655
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 12: not going to get there just by taxing the rich.

1656
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 12: You can't even come close to paying off the debt

1657
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 12: by taxing them by confiscating all their money. So it's

1658
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 12: it's just it's just it's time we got to do this.

1659
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 1: And as so many other Western nations are learning, you

1660
01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:54,799
Speaker 1: go ahead and go down that path. The rich figure

1661
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:57,760
Speaker 1: out a way to leave the jurisdiction and take their

1662
01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:00,720
Speaker 1: money and go elsewhere. Now, the one opponent of this,

1663
01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 1: it's balance the budget check, no problem, reasonable glide path

1664
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:06,720
Speaker 1: to reach the balance check. We've talked about that A

1665
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:09,559
Speaker 1: little bit concern I have, and I think you can

1666
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 1: understand why I have it is the accept in emergencies part.

1667
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 1: And I can see, you know, our elected officials figuring

1668
01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 1: out ninety zillion ways why every year we find ourselves

1669
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 1: in an emergency? What's the check on that political concern?

1670
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:28,679
Speaker 12: Well, it's it's a it's a two thirds majority, which means,

1671
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:33,439
Speaker 12: you know, that's a huge number to get to to break.

1672
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:35,440
Speaker 12: I mean, you would have to be a true emergency

1673
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 12: to be able to get something like that done, meaning

1674
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 12: like we were in a world war or something along

1675
01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:44,720
Speaker 12: those lines. But you know, look, there has to be

1676
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:47,600
Speaker 12: some mechanism. Sure, because I'm I'm trying to live in

1677
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:50,720
Speaker 12: the world of pragmatism, right of like what can I do?

1678
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:53,639
Speaker 12: How can I how can I be behind a balance

1679
01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 12: budgetmendment that I have a chance of actually getting passed?

1680
01:32:56,360 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 12: And so that's why the glide passed. That's why. That's

1681
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:01,080
Speaker 12: why because you know what someone will say, well, what

1682
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 12: about what about if we go to war? What if

1683
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 12: there's a you know, a huge natural disaster and we

1684
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 12: need to have more money, you know, and we have

1685
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 12: to borrow temporarily, Well, then that you have a trigger

1686
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 12: mechanism to do that. But it's a two thirds majority,

1687
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:17,160
Speaker 12: It's a huge number.

1688
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 1: To try to get to and of course, since we're

1689
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 1: talking about a constitutional amendment here, which will give it

1690
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 1: the strength and the teeth that would need absence some

1691
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:28,760
Speaker 1: subsequent Supreme Court finding otherwise. But anyway, let's assume it

1692
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:31,559
Speaker 1: gets past, you have to have it ratified by the states.

1693
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 1: Is there enough will out there among the states, Because

1694
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:37,200
Speaker 1: when I view this whole concept, you've dealt with the

1695
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:39,439
Speaker 1: concerns about the band Aid, ripping off of the liivepath

1696
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 1: and all that, it sounds logical, it sounds reasonable, and

1697
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 1: I can't believe fiscal responsibility at least taking only spending

1698
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 1: what you take in has a political stripe. So what

1699
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:51,720
Speaker 1: do you anticipate being the biggest argument you're going to

1700
01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 1: face in terms of selling this to everyone? Let me

1701
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,000
Speaker 1: just say, what are the Democrats going to say in

1702
01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 1: opposition to this, assuming it goes down the traditional political course.

1703
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 12: Well, you know, they'll have a lot of different things

1704
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:09,559
Speaker 12: that they'll say about it. But what I believe, Look,

1705
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:11,960
Speaker 12: I don't You've made a really good point, like this

1706
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 12: has been tried, it's not happened. But I do I

1707
01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 12: do believe that that now we're getting closed, Like I

1708
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:20,720
Speaker 12: don't know when it's going to be, Brian, I don't

1709
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:22,679
Speaker 12: know if it's going to be in two years, five years,

1710
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:25,719
Speaker 12: ten years. But if we don't change our spending habits,

1711
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:28,720
Speaker 12: like there is a day not too and then not

1712
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 12: too distant future where people won't loan us money anymore, right,

1713
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:36,080
Speaker 12: Like they won't buy our debt because they can't trust

1714
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 12: that we'll actually be able to pay it off. So

1715
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:45,160
Speaker 12: I think that the convergence of those events, because nobody's

1716
01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:49,240
Speaker 12: going to trust to the government to if you ask

1717
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:52,120
Speaker 12: them to make a sacrifice, and you don't have a

1718
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 12: mechanism like a constitutional amendment forcing the discipline, I don't

1719
01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 12: think that you'll get people to make those sacrifices. So

1720
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:01,680
Speaker 12: I think that there's a chance that the States will

1721
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:05,600
Speaker 12: recognize this day of reckoning and the voters of this

1722
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 12: country will vote to approve it. I just believe that

1723
01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:11,680
Speaker 12: that the convergence of events are going to allow for

1724
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 12: something like that to happen in the next in the

1725
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:14,720
Speaker 12: next few years.

1726
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 1: Well, when asked as an isolated question, do you believe

1727
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:19,879
Speaker 1: in the concept of a balanced budget amendment or mandating

1728
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:23,439
Speaker 1: fice corresponsibility, I think most people agree percentage wise sixty

1729
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:26,760
Speaker 1: seventy percent of American so it's a sellable point. It's

1730
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:29,040
Speaker 1: the responsible thing to do. I can only pray that

1731
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:30,600
Speaker 1: this goes forward. And I want to thank you on

1732
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:32,559
Speaker 1: behalf of the listeners and everybody else who is concerned

1733
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:34,799
Speaker 1: about what you're concerned about, for bringing forward the balanced

1734
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 1: budget amendment. We'll talk about it again in the future

1735
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 1: and I'll look forward to having you on throughout the calendar.

1736
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:41,960
Speaker 1: Your twenty twenty six Senator, Who'ston And I also want

1737
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:43,680
Speaker 1: to thank you for joining the show today and I

1738
01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:46,599
Speaker 1: wish you and your entire family a very very merry

1739
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 1: Christmas and happy holidays. It's seven forty nine and fifty

1740
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:53,840
Speaker 1: five Carosit Talk Station. Very happy Friday Eve to you.

1741
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:56,360
Speaker 1: Thanks again everybody made the listener lunch yesterday for price

1742
01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:58,799
Speaker 1: sale chili. Thank you Rebecca pro mcgroppy for the wonderful

1743
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:01,720
Speaker 1: photographs to take photographs all the time she was there

1744
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:04,760
Speaker 1: yesterday and it was great being able to see all

1745
01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 1: the pictures that she forwarded. I posted them on my

1746
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:08,519
Speaker 1: Facebook page and I just want to thank the folks

1747
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:11,560
Speaker 1: that showed up and thanks Cribbage Mike for throwing the

1748
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:14,599
Speaker 1: game and letting me win again. Five on three seven

1749
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:18,160
Speaker 1: two three found five fifty on eighteen t Funds So

1750
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:19,519
Speaker 1: I mentioned date of Eavan. I was thinking of the

1751
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:22,240
Speaker 1: Nativity scene article that I ran into. And there are

1752
01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:24,280
Speaker 1: many moments of time in this segment, apps and calls

1753
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:27,519
Speaker 1: before we get to my next guest after the top

1754
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 1: of the hour news Michael Parks got a documentary The

1755
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 1: Last six hundred Meters, which honors US soldiers who fought

1756
01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:37,280
Speaker 1: and died in the Iraq War. That should be an

1757
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:41,439
Speaker 1: interesting conversation with Michael, followed by Jay Ratliffe. But this

1758
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:46,599
Speaker 1: church and Nativity scene controversy, I think the folks involved

1759
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 1: kind of missed the point to a certain extent. It's

1760
01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:53,599
Speaker 1: Saint Susannah. It's a Catholic church in Boston. Outside of Boston.

1761
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 1: They put a Nativity scene outside an empty manger, no Jesus,

1762
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:07,439
Speaker 1: with a sign that says Ice was here, Okay. Father

1763
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 1: Stephen Josoma, pastor there, said the church's Peace and Justice

1764
01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:14,840
Speaker 1: Group organize the display. They said they try to see

1765
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:17,320
Speaker 1: what it would be like if Christ was born into

1766
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:20,800
Speaker 1: the context of the world today, what would he be

1767
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:23,840
Speaker 1: facing And apparently in the minds of the Saint Suzannah folks,

1768
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:28,800
Speaker 1: he would be facing, I don't know, arrest by ice officers. Now,

1769
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 1: can anybody provide me with a reasonable justification for an

1770
01:37:32,200 --> 01:37:34,800
Speaker 1: ice officer? I mean, assuming that Jesus was born in

1771
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:39,600
Speaker 1: modern times for being picked up and arrested. Apparently they

1772
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:42,680
Speaker 1: left the magi and Joseph and Mary sitting there, but

1773
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 1: they took the baby. Don't know how they get there.

1774
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:51,879
Speaker 1: Josoma said, it's religious art. It's designed to evoke emotions

1775
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:54,240
Speaker 1: in people. He said, it's supposed to affect people deeply.

1776
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:56,519
Speaker 1: It's supposed to move people. It's supposed to change people.

1777
01:37:56,640 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 1: So if this evokes a strong reaction, it may be

1778
01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:00,000
Speaker 1: good to take a look at that.

1779
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:01,200
Speaker 12: Now.

1780
01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:03,560
Speaker 1: There was another church which added to my confusion on

1781
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 1: this one. In Illinois. Church displayed a major scene featuring

1782
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:14,160
Speaker 1: the baby Jesus, hands zip tied together, and gas masks

1783
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:18,360
Speaker 1: on Mary and Joseph. Church said the display reimagines the

1784
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:25,160
Speaker 1: Nativity as a scene of forced family separation. Associate minister

1785
01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:28,400
Speaker 1: at the Lake Street Church, Evanston Jillian Westerfeld, speaking with

1786
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:31,680
Speaker 1: Fox News, said the church felt the imagery resonates with

1787
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:34,679
Speaker 1: the current time in the story of Jesus' birth. Quote

1788
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:39,559
Speaker 1: this installation is not subtle because the crisis it addresses

1789
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:44,919
Speaker 1: is not abstract. The Holy Family were refugees. By witnessing

1790
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:48,040
Speaker 1: this familiar story through the reality faced by migrants today,

1791
01:38:48,160 --> 01:38:51,040
Speaker 1: we hope to restore its radical edge and to ask

1792
01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:53,800
Speaker 1: what it means to celebrate the birth of a refugee

1793
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:58,639
Speaker 1: child well turning away those who follow the child's footsteps. Now,

1794
01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:04,360
Speaker 1: no theologian am I. I made that point profoundly clear

1795
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:08,439
Speaker 1: over my time on radio. But as I recall and

1796
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:15,080
Speaker 1: I understand, why were marying Joseph in Bethlehem? Were they refugees?

1797
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:17,920
Speaker 1: Did they sneak into Bethlehem without authorization?

1798
01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 4: No?

1799
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:22,479
Speaker 1: Caesar Augustus ordered a Roman census and forced people to

1800
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:27,599
Speaker 1: go back to their hometowns to get registered. Joseph from

1801
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:29,960
Speaker 1: the lineage of David. He had to travel from his

1802
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 1: home in Nazareth, where he lived where he was working,

1803
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:39,519
Speaker 1: to go to Bethlehem for the purposes of government regulation,

1804
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:44,240
Speaker 1: and because the ends were full, because everybody else showed

1805
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:45,880
Speaker 1: up from out of town. That's why he ended up

1806
01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 1: having to Mary to give birth in the manger right.

1807
01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 1: This census decree probably would have gotten locked up by

1808
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:57,200
Speaker 1: the Romans had he stayed in Nazareth. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

1809
01:39:57,320 --> 01:40:00,760
Speaker 1: you're you're from the house today. You're supposed to be

1810
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:03,320
Speaker 1: in Nazareth getting registered. How come you're you're supposed to

1811
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:05,800
Speaker 1: be in uh, in Bethlehem getting registered? How come you're

1812
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:09,240
Speaker 1: here in Nazareth. Now, under those circumstances, his act of

1813
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:12,479
Speaker 1: defiance against the Roman emperor may have gotten him locked up.

1814
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 1: That's where the reality would set in. You defied the

1815
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:20,519
Speaker 1: government decree. You didn't leave where you lived and go

1816
01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:23,640
Speaker 1: to the place where you came from. This is a

1817
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:32,519
Speaker 1: batcrap insanity, and it's Christmas time, right, It's isn't it

1818
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:33,840
Speaker 1: supposed to be? At least you know?

1819
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:34,200
Speaker 9: Uh?

1820
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:38,040
Speaker 1: Going back to my peanuts nineteen sixty five, Charlie Bound Christmas.

1821
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:40,920
Speaker 1: What's it all about? Listen to Linus make the speech.

1822
01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:44,280
Speaker 1: I think he quotes the Gospel of Luke. What's the point.

1823
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:50,559
Speaker 1: It's the birth of what many people of faith believe

1824
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:57,640
Speaker 1: to be the Savior. That's why you celebrate Christmas. But

1825
01:40:57,840 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 1: I like the idea of looking at it him getting

1826
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 1: a way or them getting arrested. Had they not left

1827
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:05,080
Speaker 1: where they lived and had not gone to Bethlehem to

1828
01:41:05,120 --> 01:41:07,439
Speaker 1: get registered. You know what I don't believe in the census.

1829
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to be counted. They were going to

1830
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:15,639
Speaker 1: lock you up for that. Joseph, get in the patty wagon.

1831
01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 1: The Centurions have a couple of words for you, and

1832
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:22,320
Speaker 1: yet ay pride, Joe. He didn't know how to conjugate

1833
01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:29,680
Speaker 1: Latin romandida and to whatever that was. That was part

1834
01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:33,040
Speaker 1: of the funniest scenes from that movie. I love that anyhow,

1835
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:35,439
Speaker 1: just a little food to think about as we hopefully

1836
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:38,320
Speaker 1: engage in what would should be a celebratory time of

1837
01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:41,360
Speaker 1: year where we all tried to maybe kind of act

1838
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:44,080
Speaker 1: like Scrooge did when he woke up and realized that

1839
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:49,160
Speaker 1: maybe his damnation or not was contingent upon him being

1840
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 1: a decent guy. You know what he had at the

1841
01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:52,600
Speaker 1: end of the movie, after all that he had a

1842
01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:57,360
Speaker 1: smile on his face. He was embracing the holiday season.

1843
01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:01,200
Speaker 1: He wasn't engaging in politics. It's a fictitious story, but

1844
01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 1: why not celebrating a time of year that provides us

1845
01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:09,080
Speaker 1: with an opportunity to put a smile on our face

1846
01:42:09,160 --> 01:42:16,960
Speaker 1: and reflect. Let's not ruin it, pastors, priests by mixing

1847
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:19,519
Speaker 1: politics up in a time of year when you should

1848
01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:22,680
Speaker 1: be providing your congregation with an uplifting message. If I

1849
01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:26,360
Speaker 1: may be so bold, Michael Park the documentary the Last

1850
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:28,840
Speaker 1: six hundred Meters plus. I heard media aviation expert Jay

1851
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:31,720
Speaker 1: Ratliffe coming up. I hope you can stick around today's

1852
01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:36,680
Speaker 1: top headlines coming anywhere anytime. Take your infot to go.

1853
01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:39,440
Speaker 9: I'm listening to your heart powered.

1854
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:45,439
Speaker 1: By fifty five krs The talk Station eight oh five.

1855
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:48,160
Speaker 1: You're a fifty five krs the talk Station. A very

1856
01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:51,680
Speaker 1: happy Friday Eve to you. Brian Thomas here right here,

1857
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:56,720
Speaker 1: and please welcome Michael Pack. He is a renowned documentary

1858
01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:59,320
Speaker 1: director and we're gonna be talking about his newest release,

1859
01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:03,120
Speaker 1: The six hundred Meters The Battles of Ned Jaff and Fallujah.

1860
01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 1: He is the president of Manifold Productions, independent film and

1861
01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:09,320
Speaker 1: television production company that he founded way back in seventy seven.

1862
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:13,160
Speaker 1: Manifold Productions, mister Pack have written, direct, and produced numerous

1863
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:16,640
Speaker 1: award winning, nationally broadcast documentaries, as well as corporate and

1864
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:20,439
Speaker 1: educational films. Also president of Palladium Pictures. I could go

1865
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:24,280
Speaker 1: through your film list, but let's dive right onto it. Michael, Well,

1866
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 1: welcome to the fifty five care Some morning should talk

1867
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:29,360
Speaker 1: about a very important documentary. You released this Last six

1868
01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:34,439
Speaker 1: hundred Meters. What caused you to gravitate to make this

1869
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:39,160
Speaker 1: particular film about the battles of Najaff and Fallujas are

1870
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:40,320
Speaker 1: good to have you on the program.

1871
01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:44,200
Speaker 2: Well, it's good to be on your program. Well, as

1872
01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:47,040
Speaker 2: you say, I've made a lot of documentaries, fifteen have

1873
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:49,960
Speaker 2: been nationally broadcast by PBS, but this one had of

1874
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:54,800
Speaker 2: our unusual path. It's called The Last six hundred Meters

1875
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 2: The Battles of the Joff and Fallujah because a Special

1876
01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:02,080
Speaker 2: Forces snipers in the film, I don't make foreign policy,

1877
01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 2: I delivered the last six hundred meters of it, meaning

1878
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:08,160
Speaker 2: what he could see through a sniperscope, and we try

1879
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:10,840
Speaker 2: to stay true to that. It's not about should we

1880
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:12,599
Speaker 2: be in Iraq with the Iraq We're good or bad.

1881
01:44:12,680 --> 01:44:15,200
Speaker 2: It was what it was like to fight these battles.

1882
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:18,639
Speaker 2: These are the biggest battles in America has fought since Vietnam,

1883
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:21,880
Speaker 2: and we try to tell the story from the point

1884
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:24,360
Speaker 2: of view the people who fought there, from corporals and

1885
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:26,920
Speaker 2: sergeants up to the one star generals in the field,

1886
01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:29,280
Speaker 2: and we try to make it a battle story. As

1887
01:44:29,320 --> 01:44:33,360
Speaker 2: if it were a great historic battle like b Rejima

1888
01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:36,200
Speaker 2: or Gettysburg. And it is the hard great historic battles.

1889
01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:39,559
Speaker 2: But the path that you asked about how we got

1890
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 2: there is an odd one. We were researching a film

1891
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:45,479
Speaker 2: about the Iraq War while it was going on in

1892
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:50,240
Speaker 2: two thousand and four and five, and you know, I

1893
01:44:50,320 --> 01:44:52,559
Speaker 2: thought the stories of these battles and these young men

1894
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 2: and women being we're untold. And I conducted the interviews

1895
01:44:57,600 --> 01:45:00,200
Speaker 2: with them in two thousand and seven, three years after

1896
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:03,160
Speaker 2: the battle, when they were still young and their memories

1897
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:06,200
Speaker 2: were fresh. And then we completed a version of film

1898
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:09,519
Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight. And even though it was

1899
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:13,320
Speaker 2: primarily funded by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting PBS initially

1900
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:16,800
Speaker 2: declined to broadcast it. They thought it was too pro military.

1901
01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 2: Not sure what that means with us what they said,

1902
01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:22,800
Speaker 2: And over seventeen years we begged them to broadcast it,

1903
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:25,760
Speaker 2: and finally President the PBS, and what I considered to

1904
01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 2: be a courageous move, reversed seventeen years of no to

1905
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:33,200
Speaker 2: say yes, and we slightly updated it and we put

1906
01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:36,000
Speaker 2: it on PBS. It was broadcast nationally and PBS the

1907
01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:38,759
Speaker 2: day before veterans day in the two hundred and fiftieth

1908
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:41,879
Speaker 2: anniversary of the Marine Corps. And it is now streaming

1909
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:45,800
Speaker 2: on Amazon and soon elsewhere, so it's available, and it

1910
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:49,120
Speaker 2: had a very unusual history, but it's, if anything, more

1911
01:45:49,240 --> 01:45:52,519
Speaker 2: relevant today than it was, you know, way back when.

1912
01:45:52,760 --> 01:45:55,080
Speaker 1: Well could part of the reluctance be and see I'm

1913
01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:58,000
Speaker 1: trying to draw a parallel here between people's attitudes about Vietnam.

1914
01:45:58,040 --> 01:45:59,639
Speaker 1: Why are we there? Why are we fighting this battle?

1915
01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:02,759
Speaker 1: We don't care about why blah? And so the soldiers

1916
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:04,840
Speaker 1: took the brunt of that when they came back, and

1917
01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:07,600
Speaker 1: I've always felt terrible about that. But insofar as us,

1918
01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:11,600
Speaker 1: the idea of us going into Iraq was predicated on

1919
01:46:11,680 --> 01:46:14,320
Speaker 1: weapons of mass destruction. Guess what, there weren't any there.

1920
01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:17,160
Speaker 1: At least that's what we've all learned, is that part

1921
01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 1: of the reason you were met with resistance, like we

1922
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:21,040
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been in that conflict in the first place,

1923
01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:25,120
Speaker 1: ignoring the pain, the peril, the death, and the just

1924
01:46:25,240 --> 01:46:29,240
Speaker 1: the awful realities of what our men and women on

1925
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:30,519
Speaker 1: the front line had to deal with.

1926
01:46:32,479 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 2: I think that's very true. I think people couldn't see

1927
01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:38,320
Speaker 2: the film because of their ideology whatever it happened to

1928
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:43,519
Speaker 2: be that, and so it was very much parallel to

1929
01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:46,960
Speaker 2: the Vietnam War veterans. I think the Iraq war veterans

1930
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:49,320
Speaker 2: in the afghan Astian word veterans also don't get their

1931
01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:52,240
Speaker 2: due because people don't like their wars. I'm like to

1932
01:46:52,280 --> 01:46:56,080
Speaker 2: say World War two, but it doesn't change the fact

1933
01:46:56,120 --> 01:47:00,320
Speaker 2: that these were heroic people, young men and women, putting

1934
01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:03,280
Speaker 2: their lives on the line for us, the American people.

1935
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:06,000
Speaker 2: And I think now maybe.

1936
01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:07,200
Speaker 4: We can see that more clearly.

1937
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:12,320
Speaker 2: I mean we you know, the these people are very impressive.

1938
01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:15,720
Speaker 2: They've done, you know, they've they've put their lives a

1939
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:19,360
Speaker 2: huge risk for us, and you can hear their stories

1940
01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:22,519
Speaker 2: and they're very dramatic on the film. I mean they're

1941
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:25,160
Speaker 2: you know, this is you know, people have been fascinated

1942
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:28,680
Speaker 2: by war from omer to today, and rightly so. These

1943
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:34,200
Speaker 2: people are an extremists doing unusual things. And I also

1944
01:47:34,280 --> 01:47:37,519
Speaker 2: think it's important to even though it's beIN twenty one

1945
01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:41,400
Speaker 2: years since these battles, I think the nation and the

1946
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:45,160
Speaker 2: world are often invested in these kind of wars and

1947
01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:48,719
Speaker 2: will be in the future. I point to the Israeli

1948
01:47:48,840 --> 01:47:52,320
Speaker 2: Hamas war in Gaza, you know, which is very similar,

1949
01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:55,519
Speaker 2: and America and others will be sucked into the until

1950
01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:56,880
Speaker 2: we should at least understand them.

1951
01:47:57,200 --> 01:47:58,800
Speaker 1: Amen to that. And you know, I've been in a

1952
01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:00,559
Speaker 1: blessed to be in a position where I've been able

1953
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:03,160
Speaker 1: to talk to a lot of the men who what

1954
01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:07,640
Speaker 1: I always refer to and kicking indoors in Fallujah, and

1955
01:48:07,680 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 1: I always use it in the context of I think

1956
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:13,439
Speaker 1: I have although I do not experience, I can certainly

1957
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:16,040
Speaker 1: relate to the concept of post traumatic stress. If you

1958
01:48:16,160 --> 01:48:17,880
Speaker 1: got to get out of bed at Reveli or whenever,

1959
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:20,720
Speaker 1: you start kicking indoors and you go into a room.

1960
01:48:21,120 --> 01:48:22,519
Speaker 1: One story that was told to me by one of

1961
01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:24,960
Speaker 1: these brave men. They kick a door in, they enter

1962
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:28,720
Speaker 1: the room, and beneath the floor they had mounted the

1963
01:48:29,040 --> 01:48:32,759
Speaker 1: enemy and an anti aircraft gun, and they started shooting

1964
01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:35,080
Speaker 1: at the man who entered the room. From beneath the floor.

1965
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:38,400
Speaker 1: One of the bullets penetrated hiss pants went right through it. Okay,

1966
01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:41,760
Speaker 1: you live through that experience, You're doing it again five

1967
01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:44,120
Speaker 1: minutes later in the next building. You're doing it all day,

1968
01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:46,240
Speaker 1: and then you're getting up tomorrow and doing the same thing.

1969
01:48:46,360 --> 01:48:48,880
Speaker 1: I cannot imagine operating at that level of adrennine and

1970
01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:53,200
Speaker 1: experiencing and showing that amount of bravery day in and

1971
01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:55,559
Speaker 1: day out. It is truly an amazing thing.

1972
01:48:57,000 --> 01:48:59,200
Speaker 2: I think that is very true. I mean, I break

1973
01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:03,000
Speaker 2: down these doors and you don't know when you smash

1974
01:49:03,080 --> 01:49:06,519
Speaker 2: the door in. Is the person that you're confronting a

1975
01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:09,080
Speaker 2: civilian that you're supposed to help, or is it an

1976
01:49:09,120 --> 01:49:10,800
Speaker 2: insurgent that's going to kill you and you've got to

1977
01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:12,600
Speaker 2: kill him before he kills you. I mean, you have

1978
01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:16,439
Speaker 2: to make these split level decisions, as you say, you know,

1979
01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:20,639
Speaker 2: time after time after time, day after day. And it's

1980
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:22,320
Speaker 2: a lot to ask and a lot of the people

1981
01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:26,160
Speaker 2: that are breaking down the doors, the corporal sergeants, et cetera,

1982
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:30,320
Speaker 2: are eighteen, nineteen, twenty year old young men in this

1983
01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:33,479
Speaker 2: case this war, you know, just out of high school

1984
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:35,680
Speaker 2: or it's the best just out of college. It's a

1985
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:39,160
Speaker 2: lot to ask and it's a lot of pressure. But

1986
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:41,920
Speaker 2: I do think to the extent there's been attention to

1987
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:45,920
Speaker 2: these veterans, it's focused on their PTSD and difficulties coming back,

1988
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:48,840
Speaker 2: and maybe bad things that happen there like Abougrave and

1989
01:49:48,920 --> 01:49:52,639
Speaker 2: Paditha and mat too has obscured the fact that, yeah

1990
01:49:52,720 --> 01:49:56,320
Speaker 2: they have, those are true, but there's also the heroism

1991
01:49:56,400 --> 01:49:58,800
Speaker 2: of what they did. We tell the story at the

1992
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:02,639
Speaker 2: end of Fallujah of Hell, a very dramatic firefight where

1993
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:07,120
Speaker 2: Marines were pinned for hours and had to heroically took

1994
01:50:07,200 --> 01:50:09,680
Speaker 2: heroic efforts to rescue the Marines in the house. And

1995
01:50:10,320 --> 01:50:13,320
Speaker 2: you know, you can see this guy, Jesse Grapes has

1996
01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:16,760
Speaker 2: to break into the house through these bars and take

1997
01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:19,640
Speaker 2: his kevler off and end up having to cross the

1998
01:50:19,720 --> 01:50:23,400
Speaker 2: kill zone where insurgents have them pinned four times to

1999
01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:28,160
Speaker 2: rescue the Marines. I mean it's very you know, yeah,

2000
01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:30,200
Speaker 2: sure what is allowed to survive that? And after holl

2001
01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:32,600
Speaker 2: House you can see the faces of these men, you know,

2002
01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:38,160
Speaker 2: it's just you know, empty stairs and you know, drained

2003
01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:41,360
Speaker 2: of all energy. But I think on the other hand, yeah,

2004
01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:44,759
Speaker 2: there's the PTSD side, but there's also their heroism and valor,

2005
01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:48,120
Speaker 2: and it's important to notice both.

2006
01:50:49,320 --> 01:50:52,080
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more with you, and I'm supportive of

2007
01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:55,080
Speaker 1: what they were, what they had done, and I understand

2008
01:50:55,120 --> 01:50:57,479
Speaker 1: that the questionable circumstances and I guess suppose one to

2009
01:50:57,520 --> 01:51:01,240
Speaker 1: gravitate over that some of them significantly profoundly affected to

2010
01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:04,320
Speaker 1: the negative again post traumatic stress, for example. But did

2011
01:51:04,360 --> 01:51:06,720
Speaker 1: you get a sense, you know, collectively, if you had

2012
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:09,160
Speaker 1: to put them on a scale that the folks that

2013
01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:11,760
Speaker 1: you talked about when you were making the talk with

2014
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:14,280
Speaker 1: when you're making the last six hundred meters, that they

2015
01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:17,440
Speaker 1: were indeed proud of what they were able to accomplish,

2016
01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:19,960
Speaker 1: that they were proud and walked away with a higher

2017
01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:24,320
Speaker 1: sense of bravery or reflective on their extreme bravery, but

2018
01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:29,920
Speaker 1: their sense of purpose. Were they overall positive about the

2019
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:32,560
Speaker 1: whole experience and looking back on it and sort of

2020
01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:34,680
Speaker 1: maybe patting themselves on the back that you know, damn it.

2021
01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:36,800
Speaker 1: There was a tough mission, but I entered and I

2022
01:51:36,840 --> 01:51:38,639
Speaker 1: did what I was told, and we prevailed.

2023
01:51:40,200 --> 01:51:40,360
Speaker 4: Well.

2024
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:42,880
Speaker 2: I think they all have a variety of views about

2025
01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:45,760
Speaker 2: the war. But we had a screening in Washington very

2026
01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:48,840
Speaker 2: recently where we invited all the veterans that were in

2027
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:50,320
Speaker 2: the film to come, and many did.

2028
01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:51,960
Speaker 12: So.

2029
01:51:52,439 --> 01:51:55,839
Speaker 2: I hadn't seen them in seventeen years. I mean looked older,

2030
01:51:55,920 --> 01:52:00,320
Speaker 2: of course, but they were very proud of it. They

2031
01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:02,880
Speaker 2: and they were very bonded to each other, and it

2032
01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:05,479
Speaker 2: was a very moving experience. Many veterans in the audience

2033
01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:08,040
Speaker 2: got up to speak, and I think for a lot

2034
01:52:08,080 --> 01:52:12,000
Speaker 2: of them, it was their most intense, most bonded experience.

2035
01:52:12,040 --> 01:52:14,240
Speaker 2: As they said, these guys on the stage with them,

2036
01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:15,880
Speaker 2: even if they haven't seen them for years, they have

2037
01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:18,479
Speaker 2: a bond with them in some ways deeper than with

2038
01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:22,519
Speaker 2: their own family. You know, they've gone through, you know,

2039
01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:28,800
Speaker 2: this intense experience, you know. So on the other hand,

2040
01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:31,280
Speaker 2: they all have had trouble talking about it. Many of

2041
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:33,560
Speaker 2: them were happy in my film finally came out so

2042
01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:36,799
Speaker 2: they could show it to their families who they couldn't

2043
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:39,840
Speaker 2: really speak about the experience too. But yeah, I think

2044
01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:44,040
Speaker 2: they thought. I think they, you know, especially the Marines

2045
01:52:44,080 --> 01:52:46,560
Speaker 2: in the film, you know, we had wondering got on

2046
01:52:46,640 --> 01:52:49,679
Speaker 2: stage and said, look, we can win any war, any battle.

2047
01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:51,920
Speaker 2: You could put us in any battlefield that we will win.

2048
01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:55,439
Speaker 2: Will we will get to the objective, whether the war

2049
01:52:55,560 --> 01:52:59,080
Speaker 2: makes sense, whether those strategic objectives are right. That's other

2050
01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:01,960
Speaker 2: people's job. But you put us there, and today we

2051
01:53:02,040 --> 01:53:04,840
Speaker 2: could do it. And this guy has seventeen years years later,

2052
01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:08,280
Speaker 2: he's still ready to do it. So I think they

2053
01:53:08,360 --> 01:53:09,960
Speaker 2: are proud of what they did over there.

2054
01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:12,479
Speaker 1: I am so happy to hear that. Michael pak director

2055
01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 1: of the last six hundred meters. Since it is the

2056
01:53:15,160 --> 01:53:18,160
Speaker 1: battles of Najaf and Fallujah, I have a kind of

2057
01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:22,479
Speaker 1: a concept of Fallujah. Were these the same types of battles?

2058
01:53:22,520 --> 01:53:24,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, when you look in different theaters

2059
01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:26,719
Speaker 1: of conflict, you know your jungle warfare, you got desert warfare.

2060
01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:29,920
Speaker 1: This is, you know, basically, from what I understand, a

2061
01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:31,759
Speaker 1: lot of door to door as I sort of explained

2062
01:53:31,800 --> 01:53:35,040
Speaker 1: it earlier in simplistic forms. Were Najaf and Fallujah the

2063
01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:38,040
Speaker 1: same type of fighting or there are different types of

2064
01:53:38,120 --> 01:53:38,840
Speaker 1: combat going on?

2065
01:53:40,240 --> 01:53:43,680
Speaker 2: Well, they were both urban warfare. I mean, okay, in

2066
01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:45,840
Speaker 2: that sense they're the same. But it starts through the

2067
01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:49,840
Speaker 2: first battle of Felujah in the north and against Sunni insurgents,

2068
01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:53,960
Speaker 2: and then Najaf in the south against Shiai insurgents, and

2069
01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:56,160
Speaker 2: then back to the second battle of Flujah in the north,

2070
01:53:56,360 --> 01:53:59,920
Speaker 2: a six month period in the jaff You know, the

2071
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:03,360
Speaker 2: city had been sort of taken over by the Mahdi

2072
01:54:03,439 --> 01:54:07,040
Speaker 2: militia run by Matanter al Fatter, and the fight first

2073
01:54:07,160 --> 01:54:11,360
Speaker 2: began in this very weird cemetery, this huge cemetery, multiple

2074
01:54:11,439 --> 01:54:14,200
Speaker 2: layers above ground and multiple layers below ground, and this

2075
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:17,519
Speaker 2: sort of surreal landscape. And then they finally pushed the

2076
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:22,720
Speaker 2: Mahdi militia into this mosque, the Grand Ali Mosque and

2077
01:54:23,040 --> 01:54:26,120
Speaker 2: one of the most holy sides in Shia Islam. And

2078
01:54:26,160 --> 01:54:27,720
Speaker 2: then it's a question of how to get him out

2079
01:54:27,760 --> 01:54:30,320
Speaker 2: of the mosque, and it's a political battle, and so

2080
01:54:30,439 --> 01:54:32,840
Speaker 2: it's not quite breaking and they're breaking down doors. I

2081
01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:35,880
Speaker 2: mean there's a there's they sheltered for a while in

2082
01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:38,960
Speaker 2: these huge kind of apartment like buildings that they had

2083
01:54:39,080 --> 01:54:44,000
Speaker 2: that the Air Force levels, and there are fights underground

2084
01:54:44,160 --> 01:54:49,120
Speaker 2: in those buildings. Seth Moulton, now a Democratic congressman, tells

2085
01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:52,240
Speaker 2: the story of someone in his squad who's who encountered

2086
01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:55,360
Speaker 2: in the surgeon underground in one of those buildings, and

2087
01:54:55,480 --> 01:54:59,280
Speaker 2: it was so the quartas were so close they couldn't

2088
01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:02,840
Speaker 2: get their gun, the machine, the weapons out, and so

2089
01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:06,600
Speaker 2: it was turned into a knife fight until the marine

2090
01:55:06,680 --> 01:55:10,200
Speaker 2: that killed the insurgent with his knife through the guy's eye.

2091
01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:15,960
Speaker 2: So it gets to be pretty brutal, primitive combat and

2092
01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:19,600
Speaker 2: very strange surreal circumstances. Not quite the ticking down the

2093
01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:23,640
Speaker 2: doors symbol of the Second Battle of Fallujah, but a

2094
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:26,320
Speaker 2: variation on that, but still urban combat.

2095
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:29,120
Speaker 1: Fair enough and from the bottom of my heart, I

2096
01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:31,920
Speaker 1: personally can't thank you enough for documenting this in the

2097
01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:34,720
Speaker 1: last six hundred meters of battles in the Joff and Fallujah,

2098
01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:38,000
Speaker 1: and in my listening audience, I have lots of American veterans,

2099
01:55:38,040 --> 01:55:40,920
Speaker 1: many of whom were probably there and can certainly relate

2100
01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:43,200
Speaker 1: to it and will enjoy watching this film. And to

2101
01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:44,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people who really don't get it, haven't

2102
01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:47,280
Speaker 1: can't understand it, get a load of it. It's right

2103
01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:49,760
Speaker 1: there for everyone to see, the last six hundred meters

2104
01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:51,680
Speaker 1: of battles in the Joff and Flujia. My guest today,

2105
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:54,400
Speaker 1: the producer and director of the film, Michael Pack, Thank

2106
01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:56,840
Speaker 1: you again for your service to the country and your

2107
01:55:56,840 --> 01:55:58,680
Speaker 1: service to the men and women who were involved in

2108
01:55:58,760 --> 01:56:00,400
Speaker 1: the conflict and put in the film together. And I

2109
01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:03,080
Speaker 1: will encourage my listeners to check it out. I'm staring

2110
01:56:03,080 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 1: at the page right now PBS Documentaries. It's easy to find,

2111
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:07,840
Speaker 1: and my producer will put a link on my blog

2112
01:56:07,880 --> 01:56:09,680
Speaker 1: page at fifty five cars dot com to make it

2113
01:56:09,760 --> 01:56:12,560
Speaker 1: that much easier. Michael, thanks again, and thanks for spending

2114
01:56:12,560 --> 01:56:13,600
Speaker 1: time with my listeners.

2115
01:56:13,320 --> 01:56:15,360
Speaker 4: On me today. Thank you.

2116
01:56:15,520 --> 01:56:18,400
Speaker 2: It's really it's easiest to find on Amazon, and it

2117
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:20,840
Speaker 2: really was an honor to me to be able to

2118
01:56:20,880 --> 01:56:23,920
Speaker 2: tell these stories. You know, the thanks go to them,

2119
01:56:24,600 --> 01:56:24,880
Speaker 2: you know what.

2120
01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:27,480
Speaker 1: I understand that, but thanks again for doing it, and

2121
01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:30,280
Speaker 1: I'm glad you enjoyed the experience and again to document it.

2122
01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:33,120
Speaker 1: It's a nineteen right now. Fifty five KRCD Talk Station

2123
01:56:33,200 --> 01:56:34,960
Speaker 1: may have a moment in time for a call at Maureen.

2124
01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:36,760
Speaker 1: If you'd like to try to chime in, feel free

2125
01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:38,400
Speaker 1: to do so. Jay Ratliffe coming up, I know that,

2126
01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:43,920
Speaker 1: don't go away. Fifty five krc Sure you go. Hey,

2127
01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:46,800
Speaker 1: twenty two fifty have KRCD Talk station straight to the phones,

2128
01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:48,400
Speaker 1: a few callers online, going to try to get them

2129
01:56:48,400 --> 01:56:50,920
Speaker 1: all in. Let's start with in the order which they receive. Matt,

2130
01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:52,000
Speaker 1: Welcome to the morning show.

2131
01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:54,040
Speaker 5: Hey, good morning, Brian.

2132
01:56:54,880 --> 01:56:57,600
Speaker 15: The issue with the Holy Family being migrants was it

2133
01:56:57,720 --> 01:57:01,080
Speaker 15: that they went from Nazareth to Bethlehem. They used that

2134
01:57:01,240 --> 01:57:03,920
Speaker 15: from when they went from Nasareth to Egypt the fleet

2135
01:57:04,040 --> 01:57:07,600
Speaker 15: King Herod. But the important point they forget to talk

2136
01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:10,480
Speaker 15: about is they went home when the danger was gone.

2137
01:57:10,920 --> 01:57:13,040
Speaker 15: They weren't permanent illegal immics.

2138
01:57:13,080 --> 01:57:14,400
Speaker 9: They weren't permanent migrants.

2139
01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:16,800
Speaker 1: They came home after the counting.

2140
01:57:17,520 --> 01:57:22,560
Speaker 5: That's yeah, no, no, after Herod slaughtered the innocent.

2141
01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:23,640
Speaker 4: I got you it was.

2142
01:57:24,360 --> 01:57:27,360
Speaker 15: It wasn't when they went to register in Bethlehem. It

2143
01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:31,400
Speaker 15: was when they fled when Jesus was young and King

2144
01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:34,520
Speaker 15: Herod spoke to the mage and wanted to find out.

2145
01:57:34,440 --> 01:57:35,280
Speaker 4: Where the baby was.

2146
01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:38,760
Speaker 1: Gotcha? Well, like I said, no theologian Ami, but are

2147
01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:41,080
Speaker 1: you of the mindset that the priest got it wrong?

2148
01:57:42,200 --> 01:57:42,400
Speaker 12: Yes?

2149
01:57:42,560 --> 01:57:47,080
Speaker 1: Okay, fundamentally that seemed to be where I was going

2150
01:57:47,200 --> 01:57:50,920
Speaker 1: on that one, but I appreciate the additional extra information.

2151
01:57:51,240 --> 01:57:54,040
Speaker 1: Important it is. But you know, we have at least

2152
01:57:54,480 --> 01:57:59,960
Speaker 1: two identifiably leftist I would argue backcraping, saying people respond

2153
01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:05,760
Speaker 1: possible for the Nativity scenes that don't understand their own religion. Maureen,

2154
01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:08,000
Speaker 1: welcome to the Morning Show. Time to squeeze you in

2155
01:58:08,120 --> 01:58:09,520
Speaker 1: here as I thought I would welcome.

2156
01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:13,120
Speaker 11: Good morning, Brian. I missed the first hour of the show,

2157
01:58:13,280 --> 01:58:16,440
Speaker 11: so I hope without repeating anything that anybody ever talked

2158
01:58:16,440 --> 01:58:21,480
Speaker 11: about as far as Judge of Politanus call yesterday talking

2159
01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:25,480
Speaker 11: about the constitutionality of President Trump taking out the Venezuelan

2160
01:58:25,640 --> 01:58:29,960
Speaker 11: Narco trafficking boats, right, I listened to a monthly podcast

2161
01:58:30,160 --> 01:58:34,720
Speaker 11: of various retired generals and their most recent podcast was

2162
01:58:34,760 --> 01:58:37,879
Speaker 11: about this very subject, and I took notes from that podcast.

2163
01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:39,640
Speaker 11: So I just wanted to pass on with.

2164
01:58:39,640 --> 01:58:41,640
Speaker 2: That information on to you right now, quick goad.

2165
01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:44,920
Speaker 11: Okay, it says yes, based on Supreme Court duck at

2166
01:58:45,040 --> 01:58:50,080
Speaker 11: number two three nine three nine actions involving ordering the

2167
01:58:50,200 --> 01:58:53,440
Speaker 11: military to interdict or destroy Venezuela and narco boats our

2168
01:58:53,480 --> 01:58:57,560
Speaker 11: core commander in chief acts under counter Drug Mission authority.

2169
01:58:57,920 --> 01:59:01,240
Speaker 11: They would receive absolute immunity under t versus United States

2170
01:59:01,320 --> 01:59:06,400
Speaker 11: Supreme Court Supreme Court docket two three nine three nine.

2171
01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:11,160
Speaker 11: That said, based on counter narcocotics maritime operations, if a

2172
01:59:11,240 --> 01:59:15,839
Speaker 11: president orders military force to pursue, interdict, disable, or destroy

2173
01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:18,880
Speaker 11: hostile or unlawful vessels that are part of the narcotics

2174
01:59:18,920 --> 01:59:23,240
Speaker 11: trafficking network, these are military operational orders and that means

2175
01:59:23,320 --> 01:59:27,480
Speaker 11: they fall squarely within commander in chief authority, national defense,

2176
01:59:27,560 --> 01:59:31,879
Speaker 11: foreign operations, and executive enforcement of federal law through military assets.

2177
01:59:32,200 --> 01:59:36,480
Speaker 11: These are all considered core presidential military actions. Key takeaway

2178
01:59:36,640 --> 01:59:39,440
Speaker 11: is look at the Supreme Court docket two three dash

2179
01:59:39,520 --> 01:59:40,480
Speaker 11: nine three nine.

2180
01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:45,920
Speaker 1: Hostile and unlawful? Are they hostile and is this engaging

2181
01:59:45,960 --> 01:59:49,480
Speaker 1: in unlawful activity sinsor in international waters. Apparently the Venezuelans

2182
01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:52,480
Speaker 1: don't have any criminality associated with the manufacturer or sale

2183
01:59:52,520 --> 01:59:54,800
Speaker 1: of drugs, so I'm not sure the legal status there,

2184
01:59:54,840 --> 01:59:57,920
Speaker 1: whether it isn't is unlawful. But in international waters fifteen

2185
01:59:58,000 --> 02:00:01,160
Speaker 1: hundred miles away, are they indeed hostile? Are they actually

2186
02:00:01,240 --> 02:00:04,120
Speaker 1: coming here? I don't know. I mean, that's the kind

2187
02:00:04,120 --> 02:00:06,160
Speaker 1: of thing that I poses the biggest challenge for me.

2188
02:00:06,600 --> 02:00:09,680
Speaker 1: Under certain circumstances. I will acknowledge the president does have

2189
02:00:09,760 --> 02:00:13,640
Speaker 1: authority if someone's coming at the gate guns of blazon

2190
02:00:13,880 --> 02:00:15,880
Speaker 1: or you know, strapped with a bomb to their vest,

2191
02:00:15,920 --> 02:00:18,320
Speaker 1: witting to blow somebody up because it's right there, and

2192
02:00:18,480 --> 02:00:22,360
Speaker 1: an apprehension reasonable bodily harm or murder or dismemberment, whatever, Yeah,

2193
02:00:22,600 --> 02:00:25,840
Speaker 1: use deadly force. But I don't know that the circumstances

2194
02:00:26,000 --> 02:00:29,560
Speaker 1: exist under these particular scenarios that we're reading about that

2195
02:00:29,760 --> 02:00:32,960
Speaker 1: justifies the use of military force. It's a gray area,

2196
02:00:33,120 --> 02:00:36,120
Speaker 1: without question. And I keep going back to somebody screaming

2197
02:00:36,160 --> 02:00:37,840
Speaker 1: at me at the radio. These are drug dealers.

2198
02:00:37,960 --> 02:00:38,160
Speaker 2: I know.

2199
02:00:38,440 --> 02:00:40,120
Speaker 1: I don't want them alive. I don't want them coming

2200
02:00:40,120 --> 02:00:41,880
Speaker 1: to the United States. But I also know that if

2201
02:00:41,920 --> 02:00:44,280
Speaker 1: I was in a boat off the coast of Venezuela,

2202
02:00:44,320 --> 02:00:46,240
Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect a rocket to come out of nowhere,

2203
02:00:46,520 --> 02:00:49,120
Speaker 1: especially if I'm not going to America with my cargo,

2204
02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:52,560
Speaker 1: and my cargo might not be drugs. I don't know.

2205
02:00:53,320 --> 02:00:55,280
Speaker 1: Got to have a lot of faith in our intelligence

2206
02:00:55,320 --> 02:00:58,280
Speaker 1: operations to know exactly who these people are, that they

2207
02:00:58,360 --> 02:01:01,760
Speaker 1: have been identified as actual Narco terrace, And I don't

2208
02:01:01,760 --> 02:01:04,320
Speaker 1: know how that happens this far away hell. We can't

2209
02:01:04,320 --> 02:01:07,400
Speaker 1: even find find people that have moved away from their

2210
02:01:07,440 --> 02:01:11,120
Speaker 1: home under ankle monitor restrictions, roam in the streets committing crimes.

2211
02:01:11,200 --> 02:01:13,240
Speaker 1: We can't find them in our own backyard. How is

2212
02:01:13,280 --> 02:01:15,960
Speaker 1: it that we know the identity and the definitive reality

2213
02:01:16,040 --> 02:01:20,120
Speaker 1: like due process, that these people are Narco terrorists. It's crazy.

2214
02:01:20,680 --> 02:01:23,880
Speaker 1: Welcome to a gray area eight twenty so I appreciate it.

2215
02:01:23,920 --> 02:01:25,960
Speaker 1: Morning in eight twenty six fifty five kerc the talk station,

2216
02:01:26,040 --> 02:01:28,520
Speaker 1: I heard me the aviation expert saving me from myself.

2217
02:01:28,560 --> 02:01:33,160
Speaker 1: Coming up next, Jay Ratliffe, Although I will give you plugs.

2218
02:01:33,320 --> 02:01:35,240
Speaker 1: He runs a company called day Trade Fun where he

2219
02:01:35,440 --> 02:01:38,200
Speaker 1: can teach you how to trade stocks. I would turn

2220
02:01:38,280 --> 02:01:40,440
Speaker 1: my car on. Yesterday, I'm I'm in the Towers of

2221
02:01:40,520 --> 02:01:44,160
Speaker 1: Kenwood Building and I have this little sat NAV map

2222
02:01:44,280 --> 02:01:46,680
Speaker 1: and it shows up right next to my radio setting

2223
02:01:46,800 --> 02:01:50,280
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting there and the little bubble that points

2224
02:01:50,360 --> 02:01:52,560
Speaker 1: up it says day Trade fun on it, and I'm like, what,

2225
02:01:53,160 --> 02:01:54,120
Speaker 1: how did that pop up?

2226
02:01:54,720 --> 02:01:57,680
Speaker 16: So the officers are right there on the seventh floor.

2227
02:01:57,840 --> 02:02:00,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, but of all the offices in the building, I mean,

2228
02:02:00,320 --> 02:02:02,560
Speaker 1: iHeart media didn't show up or none of the other

2229
02:02:02,880 --> 02:02:06,760
Speaker 1: It's just like it was channeling you, Jay ratlift your car.

2230
02:02:06,920 --> 02:02:08,400
Speaker 16: Your car knows what's important.

2231
02:02:08,480 --> 02:02:08,760
Speaker 2: I know.

2232
02:02:09,400 --> 02:02:11,640
Speaker 16: Look, look, my students had a good December. I think

2233
02:02:11,680 --> 02:02:14,600
Speaker 16: I made thirty two or thirty three thousand dollars flipping

2234
02:02:14,640 --> 02:02:17,360
Speaker 16: stocks last month in a spare time effort. So that

2235
02:02:17,800 --> 02:02:20,520
Speaker 16: that that's just a reminder that you know, when you

2236
02:02:20,680 --> 02:02:23,600
Speaker 16: slow down, yeah, flip a few stocks, and you know,

2237
02:02:23,720 --> 02:02:24,640
Speaker 16: fund your retirement.

2238
02:02:24,840 --> 02:02:26,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to get another earful for my wife, who

2239
02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:29,160
Speaker 1: has been just pleading with me to take you up

2240
02:02:29,240 --> 02:02:32,240
Speaker 1: on your advice and do the class someday.

2241
02:02:32,560 --> 02:02:34,480
Speaker 16: At least at least your car and your wife are

2242
02:02:34,520 --> 02:02:35,120
Speaker 16: on my side.

2243
02:02:35,200 --> 02:02:36,840
Speaker 1: That's exactly I'm on your side too.

2244
02:02:37,000 --> 02:02:37,360
Speaker 4: Jays.

2245
02:02:38,640 --> 02:02:43,320
Speaker 1: Anyhow, Jay Ratliffe, apparently you had to file a lawsuit

2246
02:02:43,400 --> 02:02:46,680
Speaker 1: for Southwest Airlines to provide the military leave for their pilots.

2247
02:02:47,560 --> 02:02:51,440
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's it's very un Southwest Airlines like to be honest,

2248
02:02:51,560 --> 02:02:54,600
Speaker 16: because of course every airline has a specific number of

2249
02:02:54,720 --> 02:02:58,000
Speaker 16: days they give their their pilots and employees that have

2250
02:02:58,200 --> 02:03:02,720
Speaker 16: military service, and Southwest Airlines actually had to be taken

2251
02:03:02,760 --> 02:03:07,880
Speaker 16: to court by some pilots trying to get more days

2252
02:03:07,920 --> 02:03:11,760
Speaker 16: as far as military paid time or paid or military

2253
02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:15,360
Speaker 16: leave of absence, and there was a class action lawsuit

2254
02:03:15,440 --> 02:03:18,800
Speaker 16: that was brought by some of the pilots and the

2255
02:03:19,280 --> 02:03:21,880
Speaker 16: ruling came in that Southwest has agreed now to provide

2256
02:03:21,960 --> 02:03:24,800
Speaker 16: up to ten days of short term military leave and

2257
02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:28,320
Speaker 16: pay up about almost nineteen million dollars in compensation to

2258
02:03:28,440 --> 02:03:34,280
Speaker 16: twenty eight one hundred former employees who weren't able to

2259
02:03:35,480 --> 02:03:38,480
Speaker 16: get a leave with pay where they could end up

2260
02:03:39,280 --> 02:03:42,000
Speaker 16: serving their country. So it still has to be approved

2261
02:03:42,000 --> 02:03:44,400
Speaker 16: by the government or by the courts. And Brian, what

2262
02:03:44,480 --> 02:03:48,480
Speaker 16: we're hoping is if being the landmark decision, it is

2263
02:03:48,920 --> 02:03:52,440
Speaker 16: that obviously that type of an arrangement would kind of

2264
02:03:52,440 --> 02:03:55,000
Speaker 16: seep through to the other airlines where we would see that,

2265
02:03:55,280 --> 02:03:57,800
Speaker 16: I would like to see more, but at least having

2266
02:03:57,920 --> 02:04:01,240
Speaker 16: that as a basis, I think is a good starting point.

2267
02:04:01,440 --> 02:04:03,280
Speaker 16: And look, a lot of this is negotiated in the

2268
02:04:03,320 --> 02:04:06,080
Speaker 16: contracts as well, because when the pilot union and the

2269
02:04:06,160 --> 02:04:09,960
Speaker 16: airlines are bouncing back and forth as far as the

2270
02:04:10,040 --> 02:04:14,520
Speaker 16: compensation and benefit levels for their contract they're negotiating. I

2271
02:04:14,640 --> 02:04:18,560
Speaker 16: am certain that this is a component of that deal.

2272
02:04:19,560 --> 02:04:21,960
Speaker 16: Now I don't know that for sure, but I've seen

2273
02:04:22,040 --> 02:04:26,400
Speaker 16: these arrangements and they cover everything, and I can't believe

2274
02:04:26,440 --> 02:04:29,040
Speaker 16: that those deals would be hammered out absent of a

2275
02:04:29,160 --> 02:04:31,880
Speaker 16: provision that would apply to some sort of military leave

2276
02:04:32,760 --> 02:04:33,960
Speaker 16: for the employees when it was.

2277
02:04:34,000 --> 02:04:39,040
Speaker 1: Needed fair enough. Well, well, that loss it may have precedent,

2278
02:04:39,080 --> 02:04:43,680
Speaker 1: as you say, going on FAA pualizing airlines who failed

2279
02:04:43,760 --> 02:04:48,040
Speaker 1: to reduce flight operations during the shutdown as ordered. Well,

2280
02:04:48,320 --> 02:04:49,760
Speaker 1: what's this, Jay Ratt left.

2281
02:04:50,200 --> 02:04:53,840
Speaker 16: Well, they sent letters out this week to airlines saying, look,

2282
02:04:54,400 --> 02:04:57,000
Speaker 16: we told you at forty airports that we needed you

2283
02:04:57,120 --> 02:04:59,920
Speaker 16: to reduce the number of flights to a specific level.

2284
02:05:00,360 --> 02:05:02,800
Speaker 16: And the Federal Aviation Ministruation has looked into it, Bran,

2285
02:05:02,800 --> 02:05:05,360
Speaker 16: and they found that not every airline did what they

2286
02:05:05,440 --> 02:05:08,600
Speaker 16: were supposed to. So the letters that went out this

2287
02:05:08,880 --> 02:05:13,080
Speaker 16: this week have shocker exactly. So right now, the fa says, look,

2288
02:05:13,360 --> 02:05:15,720
Speaker 16: they sent the airlines that they are looking at a

2289
02:05:15,840 --> 02:05:18,760
Speaker 16: letter saying you have thirty days to provide evidence that,

2290
02:05:19,000 --> 02:05:21,240
Speaker 16: in essence, you did what you did or we're supposed

2291
02:05:21,240 --> 02:05:25,320
Speaker 16: to do complying with our orders violators. They are indicating

2292
02:05:25,440 --> 02:05:28,360
Speaker 16: risk fines up to seventy five thousand dollars per flight

2293
02:05:28,480 --> 02:05:32,080
Speaker 16: that was operated over that threshold, and they went on

2294
02:05:32,160 --> 02:05:33,880
Speaker 16: to say, quote, if we do not hear from you

2295
02:05:34,000 --> 02:05:37,840
Speaker 16: within that specified time, our report will be processed without

2296
02:05:37,880 --> 02:05:40,800
Speaker 16: the benefit of your statement. So I like the fact

2297
02:05:40,840 --> 02:05:42,960
Speaker 16: that the FAA is looking at coming down hard. Now

2298
02:05:43,040 --> 02:05:45,320
Speaker 16: here's what's going to happen. They'll find a number of

2299
02:05:45,360 --> 02:05:47,720
Speaker 16: airlines that had a whole bunch of flights that probably

2300
02:05:47,800 --> 02:05:50,720
Speaker 16: were above that threshold, and the FAA will propose a

2301
02:05:51,080 --> 02:05:54,520
Speaker 16: very hefty and I think well deserved fine. We will

2302
02:05:54,600 --> 02:05:57,840
Speaker 16: then later see that that find was negotiated down by

2303
02:05:57,920 --> 02:06:02,280
Speaker 16: these same airlines with a deal the government that probably says,

2304
02:06:02,360 --> 02:06:04,720
Speaker 16: if we don't do it again, blah blah blah, you know,

2305
02:06:04,800 --> 02:06:07,480
Speaker 16: we have to pay a fraction of that fine rare?

2306
02:06:07,760 --> 02:06:07,920
Speaker 7: Is it?

2307
02:06:08,120 --> 02:06:10,640
Speaker 16: If ever, that the proposed finds from the Federal Aviation

2308
02:06:10,680 --> 02:06:15,000
Speaker 16: Administration actually are imposed on the airlines.

2309
02:06:15,120 --> 02:06:17,240
Speaker 14: They're always negotiated.

2310
02:06:16,680 --> 02:06:19,080
Speaker 16: Down And it just drives me crazy because I'm thinking,

2311
02:06:19,200 --> 02:06:21,720
Speaker 16: what's the incentive here for airlines to do what they're

2312
02:06:21,720 --> 02:06:24,640
Speaker 16: supposed to if they know that they can skirt the rules,

2313
02:06:25,120 --> 02:06:27,000
Speaker 16: get away with it, and pay a fraction of a

2314
02:06:27,080 --> 02:06:28,440
Speaker 16: fine that might be coming their way.

2315
02:06:29,280 --> 02:06:32,480
Speaker 1: All right, simple enough, easily stated. That's what we get

2316
02:06:32,480 --> 02:06:34,880
Speaker 1: from my Heart Media Aviation Expert Jay Ratliff. Coming up.

2317
02:06:34,920 --> 02:06:37,640
Speaker 1: That does not fly. If you have Parkinson's real ID

2318
02:06:38,360 --> 02:06:41,800
Speaker 1: and the TSA new travel record, we'll talk with that.

2319
02:06:41,920 --> 02:06:44,720
Speaker 1: Plus get a hub delay with Jay Ratliffe in the

2320
02:06:44,800 --> 02:06:46,760
Speaker 1: future segments. We've got a couple coming your way, Tay

2321
02:06:46,800 --> 02:06:48,760
Speaker 1: thirty five right now. If you have KCD Talk Station

2322
02:06:49,320 --> 02:06:52,880
Speaker 1: fifty fifty five KFCD Talk Station, have you ever been

2323
02:06:52,920 --> 02:06:57,120
Speaker 1: in the cockpit before? Jay raylif has. He's iHeartMedia Aviation Expert.

2324
02:06:58,120 --> 02:06:59,840
Speaker 1: He joins the fifty five CARSS Morning Show for a

2325
02:07:00,120 --> 02:07:03,280
Speaker 1: segments every Thursday at this time. Real quick here, I said,

2326
02:07:03,320 --> 02:07:06,800
Speaker 1: it wasn't going to throw your curveball, but well, I

2327
02:07:06,880 --> 02:07:10,000
Speaker 1: couldn't recall since you mentioned Southwest before, if we had

2328
02:07:10,040 --> 02:07:14,080
Speaker 1: talked about this. They're now charging what they call plus

2329
02:07:14,400 --> 02:07:17,880
Speaker 1: size passengers for them to have to buy a second

2330
02:07:18,000 --> 02:07:20,520
Speaker 1: seat because I guess they're spilling over into the next seat.

2331
02:07:20,600 --> 02:07:23,400
Speaker 1: So is that something that's going to be a trend

2332
02:07:23,480 --> 02:07:25,360
Speaker 1: into the future or Southwest going to be a loaner

2333
02:07:25,440 --> 02:07:28,240
Speaker 1: on this, because I have heard, I mean, in my

2334
02:07:28,400 --> 02:07:31,160
Speaker 1: life a lot of people complain about the spillover effect

2335
02:07:32,200 --> 02:07:34,400
Speaker 1: when they're stuck on an airplane, and it can be

2336
02:07:34,600 --> 02:07:36,720
Speaker 1: problematic for travelers, as I might imagine.

2337
02:07:37,480 --> 02:07:41,280
Speaker 16: Yeah, what's happened is if you know, for decades, if

2338
02:07:41,440 --> 02:07:44,520
Speaker 16: you were of the size of passenger that would require

2339
02:07:44,680 --> 02:07:46,600
Speaker 16: two seats, the airlines would charge you.

2340
02:07:48,240 --> 02:07:49,040
Speaker 4: For both seats.

2341
02:07:49,440 --> 02:07:52,800
Speaker 16: Sometimes they might charge you for one hundred and fifty

2342
02:07:52,800 --> 02:07:55,800
Speaker 16: percent or things of this nature, and it really just

2343
02:07:55,800 --> 02:07:58,240
Speaker 16: depends the airline to airline. Now, Southwest had a policy

2344
02:07:58,800 --> 02:08:01,680
Speaker 16: that in essence that if if you were a person

2345
02:08:01,760 --> 02:08:04,920
Speaker 16: that had to buy a second seat, that there was

2346
02:08:05,000 --> 02:08:07,400
Speaker 16: a way that you could within a period of time,

2347
02:08:07,880 --> 02:08:09,760
Speaker 16: if the flight wasn't full, or if there were so

2348
02:08:09,840 --> 02:08:12,680
Speaker 16: many empty seats on board the flight, that you could

2349
02:08:12,680 --> 02:08:17,000
Speaker 16: actually request some sort of a partial refund as far

2350
02:08:17,120 --> 02:08:19,800
Speaker 16: as because you know it's it would be bad if

2351
02:08:19,800 --> 02:08:22,080
Speaker 16: they charged you double and you get on there and

2352
02:08:22,080 --> 02:08:24,320
Speaker 16: there's twelve people on the plane and you know you've

2353
02:08:24,320 --> 02:08:26,480
Speaker 16: got all that you've got to row to yourself. So

2354
02:08:26,680 --> 02:08:29,840
Speaker 16: they have changed some of that policy so that you know,

2355
02:08:29,880 --> 02:08:33,240
Speaker 16: it's it in essence makes it harder for people to

2356
02:08:34,240 --> 02:08:37,600
Speaker 16: uh get that partial that that part port part of

2357
02:08:37,760 --> 02:08:41,880
Speaker 16: partial refund back and you know it's a departure from

2358
02:08:41,920 --> 02:08:44,320
Speaker 16: what they have done before and they're making it a

2359
02:08:44,360 --> 02:08:48,960
Speaker 16: little bit more difficult for people that require that second seat. So, uh,

2360
02:08:49,040 --> 02:08:52,120
Speaker 16: this this policy is is kicked in and I think

2361
02:08:52,160 --> 02:08:54,240
Speaker 16: it's next month, first of the year, and they've been

2362
02:08:54,280 --> 02:08:56,240
Speaker 16: talking about it through the through the year with it

2363
02:08:56,320 --> 02:08:59,280
Speaker 16: coming up. But you know, Brian, the seats are getting

2364
02:08:59,320 --> 02:09:01,800
Speaker 16: smaller and the roads are getting more packed as far

2365
02:09:01,840 --> 02:09:04,280
Speaker 16: as close together, and it makes it more and more

2366
02:09:04,320 --> 02:09:07,600
Speaker 16: difficult for any person really to have a difficult time

2367
02:09:07,680 --> 02:09:08,400
Speaker 16: being comfortable.

2368
02:09:08,800 --> 02:09:10,040
Speaker 4: And it's a challenge.

2369
02:09:10,080 --> 02:09:12,040
Speaker 16: And I've had to tell people many times over the

2370
02:09:12,120 --> 02:09:15,480
Speaker 16: years at the airport that you know, given the fact

2371
02:09:15,520 --> 02:09:18,080
Speaker 16: that the seats are getting smaller, and you know, if

2372
02:09:18,400 --> 02:09:21,120
Speaker 16: you're a larger bone person is how I would normally

2373
02:09:21,200 --> 02:09:23,400
Speaker 16: phrase it, that the only way you're going to be

2374
02:09:23,400 --> 02:09:26,800
Speaker 16: comfortable is if you purchase that second seat. Now, for

2375
02:09:26,880 --> 02:09:29,840
Speaker 16: people that have traveled a lot, that's certainly nothing that's

2376
02:09:29,920 --> 02:09:32,840
Speaker 16: really news to them because they recognize.

2377
02:09:32,360 --> 02:09:33,560
Speaker 4: Okay, I've had to do that before.

2378
02:09:33,720 --> 02:09:36,560
Speaker 16: And again the policy on how it's how it's handled

2379
02:09:36,720 --> 02:09:40,800
Speaker 16: varies from airline to airline, but you know it's at

2380
02:09:40,880 --> 02:09:44,480
Speaker 16: least Southwest is giving you the opportunity to get a

2381
02:09:44,640 --> 02:09:48,280
Speaker 16: part of that second you know, seat money back, depending

2382
02:09:48,320 --> 02:09:50,880
Speaker 16: on how many seats are available once the door has closed.

2383
02:09:50,920 --> 02:09:53,680
Speaker 16: But again you've got a very tight window to request that,

2384
02:09:53,840 --> 02:09:57,320
Speaker 16: otherwise it becomes one of these My favorite thing are

2385
02:09:57,400 --> 02:10:00,160
Speaker 16: the mail in rebates where we will overcharge you and

2386
02:10:00,240 --> 02:10:02,280
Speaker 16: then if you think about it, you can send it

2387
02:10:02,360 --> 02:10:04,600
Speaker 16: in and will give your money back, knowing a good

2388
02:10:04,800 --> 02:10:07,600
Speaker 16: portion of that population will not do it. I hate

2389
02:10:08,160 --> 02:10:09,160
Speaker 16: mail in rebate.

2390
02:10:09,960 --> 02:10:12,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, out with you on that. Have they revamped the

2391
02:10:13,400 --> 02:10:16,880
Speaker 1: evacuation time We've talked about that before, but you know, people,

2392
02:10:17,040 --> 02:10:19,640
Speaker 1: without question, statistically and I can just rely on that,

2393
02:10:19,920 --> 02:10:22,600
Speaker 1: have gotten much much larger over the past decade or

2394
02:10:22,640 --> 02:10:26,760
Speaker 1: two or three. But the ability to get the people

2395
02:10:26,880 --> 02:10:28,880
Speaker 1: off of the plane. That's a little red flag for

2396
02:10:29,000 --> 02:10:30,680
Speaker 1: me because I know it's a little more difficult to

2397
02:10:30,720 --> 02:10:33,240
Speaker 1: evacuate a plane that's filled with maybe plus sized folks

2398
02:10:33,320 --> 02:10:35,520
Speaker 1: rather than you know, waifs of people.

2399
02:10:36,720 --> 02:10:40,320
Speaker 16: Well, the requirements still ninety seconds. We have to get

2400
02:10:40,320 --> 02:10:43,400
Speaker 16: everybody off the plane with half the exs blocked, and

2401
02:10:43,520 --> 02:10:47,200
Speaker 16: the FAA does tests from time to time to make

2402
02:10:47,240 --> 02:10:51,600
Speaker 16: sure that we are maintaining that speed because if not,

2403
02:10:51,760 --> 02:10:54,000
Speaker 16: then there's a problem, you have too many seats, or

2404
02:10:54,120 --> 02:10:57,240
Speaker 16: you've just you've got to do something. So, you know,

2405
02:10:57,360 --> 02:10:59,760
Speaker 16: shocker that every single time the fa has done this test,

2406
02:11:00,480 --> 02:11:03,080
Speaker 16: we've been able to hit that ninety second evacuation mark.

2407
02:11:03,640 --> 02:11:06,360
Speaker 16: Now you have to take a step into it and

2408
02:11:06,760 --> 02:11:09,200
Speaker 16: kind of look a little closer to see that none

2409
02:11:09,280 --> 02:11:12,000
Speaker 16: of the people that are used in the FAA approved

2410
02:11:12,120 --> 02:11:15,320
Speaker 16: tests to make sure we hit that ninety seconds. No

2411
02:11:15,520 --> 02:11:19,520
Speaker 16: children of any kind, no service animals of any kind,

2412
02:11:20,120 --> 02:11:23,840
Speaker 16: no elderly passengers of any kind. So when you start

2413
02:11:23,920 --> 02:11:26,880
Speaker 16: looking at the types of passengers that are used to

2414
02:11:26,960 --> 02:11:29,920
Speaker 16: make sure we hit the ninety seconds, it's not really

2415
02:11:30,120 --> 02:11:33,360
Speaker 16: reflective of the traveling public. So there's been a lot

2416
02:11:33,360 --> 02:11:35,320
Speaker 16: of people in Washington, d C. Who said wait a minute,

2417
02:11:35,320 --> 02:11:38,080
Speaker 16: time out here. We can't use this as the metric

2418
02:11:38,200 --> 02:11:40,680
Speaker 16: if that's not the kind of people that fly on

2419
02:11:40,760 --> 02:11:44,040
Speaker 16: a normal basis. So we need to have elderly, We

2420
02:11:44,160 --> 02:11:46,520
Speaker 16: need to have people that are that have some sort

2421
02:11:46,560 --> 02:11:49,280
Speaker 16: of of a physical disability, it would slow them down.

2422
02:11:49,360 --> 02:11:52,600
Speaker 16: We need children traveling by themselves. We need all of

2423
02:11:52,680 --> 02:11:56,120
Speaker 16: these different components to really see if it's reflective of

2424
02:11:56,240 --> 02:12:00,560
Speaker 16: what the actual emergency evacuation time would be. And Brian

2425
02:12:00,640 --> 02:12:04,160
Speaker 16: time after time, the FAA is either play the crickets

2426
02:12:04,240 --> 02:12:06,160
Speaker 16: or the last track. It's one of the two because

2427
02:12:06,280 --> 02:12:09,240
Speaker 16: they're just they're just not moving in that direction. Because

2428
02:12:09,280 --> 02:12:12,240
Speaker 16: if they did, and this really shows how much power

2429
02:12:12,280 --> 02:12:15,480
Speaker 16: the airline industry has, then you've got to do two things.

2430
02:12:16,080 --> 02:12:18,920
Speaker 16: You have to sell only a certain number of seats

2431
02:12:19,280 --> 02:12:22,200
Speaker 16: to make sure in this revenue and there is the

2432
02:12:22,240 --> 02:12:22,920
Speaker 16: bottom line.

2433
02:12:23,480 --> 02:12:24,200
Speaker 4: Drives me crazy.

2434
02:12:24,560 --> 02:12:26,800
Speaker 16: Don't tell me safety is are number one priority.

2435
02:12:27,320 --> 02:12:32,320
Speaker 1: It's revenue And apparently don't fly if you have Parkinson's

2436
02:12:32,360 --> 02:12:34,640
Speaker 1: a sort of a thumbnail sketch of this one and

2437
02:12:34,800 --> 02:12:35,520
Speaker 1: tell them about it.

2438
02:12:36,160 --> 02:12:38,440
Speaker 16: Yeah, this was a Turkish airline's flight. There was a

2439
02:12:38,600 --> 02:12:41,080
Speaker 16: man and his son, and the man is a correspondent

2440
02:12:41,120 --> 02:12:46,840
Speaker 16: for BBC and he is flying from London to Ismbul, Turkey,

2441
02:12:46,920 --> 02:12:49,560
Speaker 16: and they go and they're on their way back and

2442
02:12:49,680 --> 02:12:51,760
Speaker 16: as they check in at the gate, the man with

2443
02:12:51,920 --> 02:12:56,000
Speaker 16: Parkinson's is exhibiting, you know, some of the tremors. And

2444
02:12:56,240 --> 02:12:58,840
Speaker 16: the agent looked at him and said, do you have

2445
02:12:58,920 --> 02:13:02,200
Speaker 16: a doctor's note that says it's okay for you to

2446
02:13:02,320 --> 02:13:05,440
Speaker 16: fly and that doctor's note has to be issued to

2447
02:13:05,440 --> 02:13:08,440
Speaker 16: you within the last ten days. And the man said, no,

2448
02:13:08,880 --> 02:13:12,560
Speaker 16: I mean I have Parkinson's and the agent said, and

2449
02:13:13,200 --> 02:13:16,320
Speaker 16: the agent was correct, it's on our website that if

2450
02:13:16,400 --> 02:13:21,280
Speaker 16: you have Parkinson's you need to have that doctor's in

2451
02:13:21,440 --> 02:13:23,520
Speaker 16: essence permission, that letter that you.

2452
02:13:23,560 --> 02:13:24,200
Speaker 4: Could show us.

2453
02:13:24,600 --> 02:13:26,640
Speaker 16: Now, he said, on time out here, I flew here

2454
02:13:26,720 --> 02:13:30,240
Speaker 16: on you guys, and nobody in London said anything. And

2455
02:13:31,000 --> 02:13:33,720
Speaker 16: he kept saying, it's you know, it's Parkinson's, I mean

2456
02:13:33,840 --> 02:13:37,440
Speaker 16: what it's And I don't understand, O brien, because I

2457
02:13:37,480 --> 02:13:39,320
Speaker 16: don't know any other airline that has this as a

2458
02:13:39,440 --> 02:13:42,480
Speaker 16: posted policy. But they would not let him fly, so

2459
02:13:42,600 --> 02:13:44,840
Speaker 16: we had to wait another day, came back to London

2460
02:13:44,880 --> 02:13:47,280
Speaker 16: on another carrier, and of course this has gone viral.

2461
02:13:47,800 --> 02:13:50,920
Speaker 16: Turkish airlines to my last check had not yet responded,

2462
02:13:51,000 --> 02:13:53,200
Speaker 16: but it's it's on their website.

2463
02:13:53,320 --> 02:13:53,880
Speaker 14: It's there.

2464
02:13:54,080 --> 02:13:56,320
Speaker 16: It's a matter of policy for the airlines.

2465
02:13:56,400 --> 02:13:57,960
Speaker 4: So it.

2466
02:13:59,600 --> 02:14:02,160
Speaker 16: It just what if somebody has cancer, they needed what

2467
02:14:02,240 --> 02:14:04,840
Speaker 16: it's got this I mean word, would it end if

2468
02:14:04,920 --> 02:14:07,080
Speaker 16: if that was the case. And the thing is that

2469
02:14:07,200 --> 02:14:09,320
Speaker 16: the gate or a ticket counter, you're you're trying to

2470
02:14:09,360 --> 02:14:12,240
Speaker 16: make sure that nobody with a medical condition, maybe somebody

2471
02:14:12,240 --> 02:14:15,240
Speaker 16: who's nine and a half months pregnant, gets on a plane,

2472
02:14:15,320 --> 02:14:17,880
Speaker 16: because that could create a problem where you now have

2473
02:14:18,080 --> 02:14:20,560
Speaker 16: a medical emergency in flight where you have to make

2474
02:14:20,720 --> 02:14:23,720
Speaker 16: a diverse, diverted landing, which could put the passenger at risk.

2475
02:14:24,160 --> 02:14:26,160
Speaker 16: It's going to cost the airline money, and it's going

2476
02:14:26,240 --> 02:14:29,080
Speaker 16: to be an inconvenience to the passengers, kind of in

2477
02:14:29,200 --> 02:14:32,080
Speaker 16: that order. So if you spot something that could be

2478
02:14:32,200 --> 02:14:35,440
Speaker 16: a potential problem, the airlines have these safety checks where

2479
02:14:35,480 --> 02:14:38,280
Speaker 16: agents are trained. Don't let that person who appears to

2480
02:14:38,320 --> 02:14:41,560
Speaker 16: be inebriated on board the airplane, or somebody who's picking

2481
02:14:41,600 --> 02:14:44,480
Speaker 16: a fight with another passenger or whatever it might happen

2482
02:14:44,520 --> 02:14:46,640
Speaker 16: to be, so that you leave the problem in the

2483
02:14:46,720 --> 02:14:48,800
Speaker 16: gate area at the airport and it doesn't get on

2484
02:14:48,920 --> 02:14:52,280
Speaker 16: the plane. That's going to create an inflight problem. Parkinson's

2485
02:14:52,360 --> 02:14:54,680
Speaker 16: is nothing that's going to create an inflight problem of

2486
02:14:54,800 --> 02:14:58,000
Speaker 16: any kind. So that's why none of this makes sense.

2487
02:14:58,760 --> 02:15:00,960
Speaker 1: Doesn't make any sense to me either. One more segment

2488
02:15:01,000 --> 02:15:02,960
Speaker 1: with Jay Ratliffe coming up. We're going to find out

2489
02:15:02,960 --> 02:15:06,680
Speaker 1: about the real ID fee and apparently the TSA's got

2490
02:15:06,760 --> 02:15:10,640
Speaker 1: a new record to talk about crow about that means profits.

2491
02:15:10,680 --> 02:15:12,640
Speaker 1: I bet more with Jay Rattlifte right for these brief

2492
02:15:12,680 --> 02:15:17,160
Speaker 1: words fifty seven above ter CD talk station talking aviation

2493
02:15:17,320 --> 02:15:21,880
Speaker 1: issues with aviation expert at Jay Rattliffe TSA real ID.

2494
02:15:22,080 --> 02:15:24,920
Speaker 1: I saw this from coming. Apparently getting a real ID

2495
02:15:25,080 --> 02:15:27,040
Speaker 1: is probably a good idea. And unless you got an

2496
02:15:27,040 --> 02:15:28,680
Speaker 1: extra what forty bucks laying around?

2497
02:15:29,360 --> 02:15:33,080
Speaker 16: Yeah, forty five if it would be. And what's happened

2498
02:15:33,160 --> 02:15:36,040
Speaker 16: is the real ID where we had to have. The

2499
02:15:36,080 --> 02:15:40,680
Speaker 16: TSSE approved driver's license took effect in early May, and

2500
02:15:41,040 --> 02:15:44,720
Speaker 16: about ninety five percent of us have the new updated

2501
02:15:44,880 --> 02:15:49,000
Speaker 16: approved TSA type driver's license that allow us to travel

2502
02:15:49,120 --> 02:15:51,880
Speaker 16: using that as our identification. But there's still five percent

2503
02:15:51,920 --> 02:15:54,000
Speaker 16: of the population that does not have that. They still

2504
02:15:54,040 --> 02:15:56,720
Speaker 16: have a valid driver's license, but Brian has not yet

2505
02:15:56,800 --> 02:16:00,840
Speaker 16: been upgraded. To that real ID A newer and the

2506
02:16:00,920 --> 02:16:03,520
Speaker 16: TSA has since May tried to work with all those

2507
02:16:03,640 --> 02:16:08,240
Speaker 16: passengers that have been flying with the non approved identification.

2508
02:16:08,720 --> 02:16:11,640
Speaker 16: But what they're saying is as of February first, that's changing,

2509
02:16:12,440 --> 02:16:14,160
Speaker 16: and they're really trying to encourage people to get the

2510
02:16:14,240 --> 02:16:17,360
Speaker 16: new driver's license and just you know, less hassle when you.

2511
02:16:17,360 --> 02:16:18,040
Speaker 4: Get to the airport.

2512
02:16:18,560 --> 02:16:20,160
Speaker 16: But what they're saying is if you're gonna be traveling

2513
02:16:20,200 --> 02:16:23,280
Speaker 16: after February first, and you're going to be using your

2514
02:16:23,440 --> 02:16:28,280
Speaker 16: current but not you know, upgraded driver's license, you will

2515
02:16:28,320 --> 02:16:30,080
Speaker 16: be charged forty five dollars.

2516
02:16:31,400 --> 02:16:32,760
Speaker 4: To in essence use that.

2517
02:16:32,920 --> 02:16:35,480
Speaker 16: You have to go online to TSA dot gub, fill

2518
02:16:35,520 --> 02:16:38,760
Speaker 16: out the the the form application whatever, pay the forty

2519
02:16:38,800 --> 02:16:41,680
Speaker 16: five dollars, and that's for every passenger eighteen years of

2520
02:16:41,760 --> 02:16:44,360
Speaker 16: age and older. That's for a ten day period of time.

2521
02:16:44,800 --> 02:16:47,000
Speaker 16: So that means if you're heading out to Grandmall's on

2522
02:16:47,080 --> 02:16:50,080
Speaker 16: the West Coast and you're gonna be there two weeks,

2523
02:16:50,120 --> 02:16:52,840
Speaker 16: you get to pay that twice. Now, the thing that

2524
02:16:53,120 --> 02:16:55,480
Speaker 16: is going to be super inconvenient here is if your

2525
02:16:55,520 --> 02:16:58,800
Speaker 16: family of six, you know, shows up at the airport,

2526
02:16:58,840 --> 02:17:01,080
Speaker 16: you get in line, you're ready to go, and they say,

2527
02:17:01,120 --> 02:17:03,000
Speaker 16: I'm sorry, we have to have you step out of line,

2528
02:17:03,640 --> 02:17:07,039
Speaker 16: go online, fill out the form, pay the forty five

2529
02:17:07,080 --> 02:17:10,240
Speaker 16: bucks per person, get back in line, and then hopefully

2530
02:17:10,240 --> 02:17:12,680
Speaker 16: you'll make your flight. So this is something you absolutely

2531
02:17:12,720 --> 02:17:16,039
Speaker 16: want to make sure of after February first. If you've

2532
02:17:16,040 --> 02:17:18,640
Speaker 16: got a valid passport and you don't have the real

2533
02:17:18,680 --> 02:17:22,120
Speaker 16: ID driver's license, no problem. Use your valid passport for

2534
02:17:22,280 --> 02:17:25,800
Speaker 16: your identification. That's fine. In fact, the TSA shows at

2535
02:17:25,879 --> 02:17:30,720
Speaker 16: TSA dot gov all the approved different things you can

2536
02:17:30,800 --> 02:17:33,600
Speaker 16: use for identification when you fly. But Brian, a number

2537
02:17:33,600 --> 02:17:36,600
Speaker 16: of people that are flying with their the old driver's

2538
02:17:36,680 --> 02:17:39,480
Speaker 16: license is at a point where it's really an inconvenience

2539
02:17:39,520 --> 02:17:41,600
Speaker 16: for the TSA to keep doing what they've been doing,

2540
02:17:41,959 --> 02:17:45,160
Speaker 16: and it really makes the May deadline a bit silly

2541
02:17:45,320 --> 02:17:48,560
Speaker 16: if you're still allowing people to fly. So the TSA

2542
02:17:48,640 --> 02:17:50,960
Speaker 16: is saying, look, as a February first, this is what

2543
02:17:51,080 --> 02:17:52,840
Speaker 16: we're going to be doing. Initially it was going to

2544
02:17:52,879 --> 02:17:55,400
Speaker 16: be an eighteen dollars charge, but in typical government fashion,

2545
02:17:55,440 --> 02:17:57,879
Speaker 16: it went up to forty five, and who knows, may

2546
02:17:57,920 --> 02:17:59,720
Speaker 16: go up even higher than that. So the bottom line is,

2547
02:17:59,800 --> 02:18:02,240
Speaker 16: get get that new driver's license. Get it out of

2548
02:18:02,240 --> 02:18:03,920
Speaker 16: the way so you don't have to worry about it,

2549
02:18:04,320 --> 02:18:05,520
Speaker 16: because I tell you a lot of people are going

2550
02:18:05,560 --> 02:18:07,240
Speaker 16: to show up the airport and not know that needs

2551
02:18:07,280 --> 02:18:08,120
Speaker 16: to be done in advance.

2552
02:18:08,280 --> 02:18:11,320
Speaker 1: Well, perhaps it's forty five dollars, because it will represent

2553
02:18:11,560 --> 02:18:14,080
Speaker 1: enough money that people will relent and go to the

2554
02:18:14,160 --> 02:18:15,520
Speaker 1: DMV and get the new license.

2555
02:18:16,160 --> 02:18:18,080
Speaker 16: Oh yeah, you've got a family of four and you've

2556
02:18:18,120 --> 02:18:20,920
Speaker 16: got to pay that four times. They're all at eighteen years.

2557
02:18:21,440 --> 02:18:24,240
Speaker 16: I mean that you know, in some brate you might

2558
02:18:24,280 --> 02:18:26,920
Speaker 16: be having airfares that are cheaper than that when you

2559
02:18:27,120 --> 02:18:30,800
Speaker 16: look at the total prices. So at the bottom line

2560
02:18:30,920 --> 02:18:33,680
Speaker 16: is that it just knowing about it ahead of time

2561
02:18:33,800 --> 02:18:35,280
Speaker 16: means you're not going to have that headache when you

2562
02:18:35,320 --> 02:18:37,400
Speaker 16: get to the airport. We have plenty of time between

2563
02:18:37,480 --> 02:18:39,720
Speaker 16: now in the first of February to fix whatever issue

2564
02:18:39,760 --> 02:18:42,560
Speaker 16: it is. So what we're trying to do is avoid

2565
02:18:43,040 --> 02:18:45,640
Speaker 16: headaches for people that might be flying, because when you

2566
02:18:45,680 --> 02:18:47,280
Speaker 16: get to the airport, you have enough stuff going on

2567
02:18:47,440 --> 02:18:50,160
Speaker 16: without worrying about getting out of line and filling out

2568
02:18:50,200 --> 02:18:53,800
Speaker 16: some aggravating online form where you hope the internet connection

2569
02:18:53,879 --> 02:18:55,480
Speaker 16: is going to allow all it to go through pretty.

2570
02:18:55,240 --> 02:18:58,640
Speaker 1: Quick right, got it all right? A new record set.

2571
02:18:59,400 --> 02:19:03,160
Speaker 1: I'll Thanksgiving is the biggest travel I suppose time of year.

2572
02:19:03,360 --> 02:19:06,000
Speaker 1: Is that what I read correctly, But apparently that is

2573
02:19:06,080 --> 02:19:08,200
Speaker 1: true whether or not I read it correctly or not.

2574
02:19:09,040 --> 02:19:11,360
Speaker 16: Oh no, you're right, and we talk about it. That's

2575
02:19:11,400 --> 02:19:13,920
Speaker 16: the busiest travel week of the year. Typically, the Sunday

2576
02:19:13,959 --> 02:19:17,160
Speaker 16: after Thanksgiving is the busiest travel day. The Wednesday before

2577
02:19:17,240 --> 02:19:21,520
Speaker 16: Thanksgiving is the second busiest travel day. And true to form,

2578
02:19:21,879 --> 02:19:24,280
Speaker 16: TSA told us this week that we set a new

2579
02:19:24,360 --> 02:19:27,480
Speaker 16: record last Sunday, the Sunday after Thanksgiving. We had three

2580
02:19:27,560 --> 02:19:31,039
Speaker 16: point one million plus people that were screened for travel

2581
02:19:31,120 --> 02:19:33,520
Speaker 16: that day. That breaks the old record, So we had

2582
02:19:33,600 --> 02:19:37,160
Speaker 16: more people flying on Sunday than we've ever had before. Sadly,

2583
02:19:37,640 --> 02:19:39,320
Speaker 16: it was also a day of a lot of storms

2584
02:19:39,360 --> 02:19:42,800
Speaker 16: across the country that delayed twelve four hundred and I

2585
02:19:42,840 --> 02:19:45,640
Speaker 16: think thirteen flights. It was so bad that some of

2586
02:19:45,680 --> 02:19:49,120
Speaker 16: those people didn't get home until Monday or Tuesday because

2587
02:19:49,480 --> 02:19:54,120
Speaker 16: the flights were so full. So if you travel on Sunday, congratulations,

2588
02:19:54,160 --> 02:19:57,000
Speaker 16: you were part of a record. And I'm sorry some

2589
02:19:57,160 --> 02:19:58,920
Speaker 16: of you had the issues you did because you had

2590
02:19:58,959 --> 02:20:02,160
Speaker 16: to earn it. Because many people were delayed on Sunday.

2591
02:20:02,200 --> 02:20:04,720
Speaker 16: We almost made it through that busy travel week. Well's

2592
02:20:04,760 --> 02:20:07,840
Speaker 16: had a super bad weather, Brian, but it nailed us

2593
02:20:07,879 --> 02:20:10,280
Speaker 16: right as we were finishing things up, and sadly on

2594
02:20:10,440 --> 02:20:12,360
Speaker 16: the busiest travel day we've ever seen.

2595
02:20:12,520 --> 02:20:16,039
Speaker 1: Horseshoes in hand, Gernade. It's close enough and finally hubbed. Lads,

2596
02:20:16,040 --> 02:20:18,039
Speaker 1: what's it looking like out there for air travel today? Jay?

2597
02:20:18,760 --> 02:20:20,160
Speaker 16: The South is going to be going to be the

2598
02:20:20,400 --> 02:20:23,120
Speaker 16: problem children of the day, Brian. We've got Houston and

2599
02:20:23,360 --> 02:20:25,560
Speaker 16: Dallas is going to be seeing some weather delays. Atlanta

2600
02:20:26,120 --> 02:20:28,520
Speaker 16: minimal now but getting worse as the day progresses. So

2601
02:20:28,520 --> 02:20:31,360
Speaker 16: if you're flying anywhere south through any of those hubs

2602
02:20:31,400 --> 02:20:35,120
Speaker 16: on Delta, United or American or Southwest, you're going to

2603
02:20:35,160 --> 02:20:37,680
Speaker 16: see some significant delays. Just to be prepared for that.

2604
02:20:38,240 --> 02:20:40,879
Speaker 16: Anything through Chicago, the Northeast rough out West so far

2605
02:20:40,959 --> 02:20:42,000
Speaker 16: looks at being pretty good shape.

2606
02:20:42,400 --> 02:20:45,480
Speaker 1: Well appreciate the update as always, Jay Ratliff, congratulations on

2607
02:20:45,560 --> 02:20:47,840
Speaker 1: a banner month trading over there. Thirty grand in a month,

2608
02:20:47,879 --> 02:20:49,360
Speaker 1: that's not bad. I could live on that.

2609
02:20:50,160 --> 02:20:52,960
Speaker 16: That's why I'm trading my students. But you know the

2610
02:20:53,040 --> 02:20:56,240
Speaker 16: thing is, though you know we I don't know, I

2611
02:20:56,360 --> 02:20:59,320
Speaker 16: just corporate America always bothers me, and I'm just glad

2612
02:20:59,480 --> 02:21:01,120
Speaker 16: I'm not a part of it because this time of year,

2613
02:21:01,160 --> 02:21:03,920
Speaker 16: when I hear people losing their jobs unexpectedly, it just

2614
02:21:04,000 --> 02:21:07,360
Speaker 16: takes me off because you know, they look at us

2615
02:21:07,360 --> 02:21:10,680
Speaker 16: as interchangeable parts, and it just it's bothered me my

2616
02:21:10,760 --> 02:21:12,680
Speaker 16: whole life, and I just not the time of year

2617
02:21:12,720 --> 02:21:14,000
Speaker 16: you want to hear somebody losing their job.

2618
02:21:14,200 --> 02:21:15,879
Speaker 1: No, you don't have to be a W two employee

2619
02:21:15,879 --> 02:21:17,760
Speaker 1: and you can still make a decent living. Asked Jay,

2620
02:21:17,840 --> 02:21:19,440
Speaker 1: I'll tell you about it all day long, Jay, rylef

2621
02:21:19,560 --> 02:21:21,760
Speaker 1: until next Thursday. God bless you, sir, you have a wonderful,

2622
02:21:21,840 --> 02:21:22,600
Speaker 1: wonderful week and