1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: As part of our non stop coverage of the NFL, 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Your home for the twelfth Man proudly presents former Seahawks 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: head coach and Super Bowl champion Mike Hombgrin. Brought to 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: you by Toyota of Kirkland. The championship team at Toyota 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: of Kirkland does all the little things that exceed your expectations, 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: and that's what makes Toyota of Kirkland so special. And 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: by R and R Foundation specialist serving Western Washington for 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: over twenty years now from the five twenty Bar and 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: Grill in Bellevue, Mike Holmgren with Softie and Dick. 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: All right, well, big thanks to the five twenty bar 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: and Grail in Bellevue. We are not there. 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 3: We are in San Francisco, where I tell you what, 13 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 3: I could use some five twenty bar and grill right now. 14 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 3: Some wings, maybe some sake bites, maybe a chicken Sandway. 15 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: Food options are a little better in there than they 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: are here, you know. 17 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 3: And I feel like we should yell at our next 18 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 3: guest for that, by the way, cause I feel like, somehow, 19 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 3: some way Mike Holmgren could have been responsible for that. 20 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 3: This is one of the great mic is you know, 21 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: food cities in the world, and none of it was 22 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 3: available to us right now on media road. We are 23 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 3: sitting here, freezing, starving, with all these great restaurants outside 24 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: the Moscone Center. 25 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 2: How come those restaurants aren't here with us? What gifts? 26 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 4: I have no idea. I told you they dropped my 27 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 4: name on occasion. 28 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that didn't really do much for us, to 29 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: be honest. Well, the Tattas Guerrill, you said, the Tattascuerrill. 30 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: We're going there tonight, by the way, for dinner. 31 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 2: How about that? 32 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 4: Oh good? You all enjoy it? How about did you 33 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 4: go to Scoma's. 34 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 3: We went to Scomas last night, but we got a 35 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: problem with Scoma's. 36 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: Mike, we got a problem. 37 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 4: What happened? 38 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: They started tinkering around with our favorite dish, the shellfish saute, 39 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: which used to come with penne pasta alfredo, now now 40 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 3: comes with now comes with freakin rice. 41 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 5: We got an issue. 42 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 4: Man. 43 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 6: I did not see Softy more angry all week long 44 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 6: than he was sitting at the table when he was 45 00:01:59,160 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 6: served that meal. 46 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 3: It was unbelievable. Can I have you for two minutes? 47 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna interrupt here, Matt, I just need 48 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 3: two minutes. I need two minutes of your time. I'm 49 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 3: gonna put these headphones on you real quick. We gotta 50 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 3: have you say hi to have you say hi to somebody. 51 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 3: You can take off and do whatever you gotta do. Okay, 52 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 3: Mike Congrin's. 53 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 5: On the phone. Hey, coach, who's this. 54 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,119 Speaker 7: It's a It's the guy you talked to earlier. Oh 55 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 7: quarterback Mary look at you twice in one day. 56 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: What are you doing here? 57 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 4: Hey, Matt? I want to think you know you were 58 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 4: very That was really good. You didn't talk about any 59 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 4: of the times I yelled at your got mad here. 60 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 4: It was really good. 61 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 7: Well, I knew this is what I told myself. I 62 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 7: said every time that you're seen on TV yelling at me, Kathy's. 63 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 5: Gonna yell at you. 64 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 2: So I was here. 65 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 5: We go, paybacks coming. 66 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: I gotta Matt. 67 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 3: While you're here, I gonna ask you, what do you 68 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: remember about the way Mike prepared you guys for that 69 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: game in two thousand and six, Because it feels like 70 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 3: this is the whole thing has changed exponentially since you 71 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 3: guys were in the game. 72 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 7: You know, it's funny after the NFC Championship game. I'm 73 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 7: in the tunnel right outside the locker room, ironically in 74 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 7: between the locker room and where Mike McDonald's family is, 75 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 7: and I'm the one thing separating him between him and 76 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 7: his family after the game, and uh, I just shook 77 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 7: his hand and said, eight, coach, I'm gonna let you 78 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 7: go be with your family. 79 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 5: Congratulations. Like that was it. 80 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 7: And he stopped and he was like, actually, I want 81 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 7: to ask you a couple of questions. And his question was, 82 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 7: what do you remember that Coach Holmgren did for you? Wow, 83 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 7: preparing for the Super Bowl and you know what we 84 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 7: what do you remember? And I just thought, like, dang, 85 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 7: this dude's psychotic. 86 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 5: Man like be in your family. 87 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 7: He was fifteen, no, but but he he he wanted 88 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 7: to know process wise what I and I basically said 89 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 7: what I've been saying since I've been here. 90 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 5: I think it's a huge advantage. 91 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 7: It was a huge advantage I felt to have Mike 92 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 7: Holmgren and his staff who had been through it so 93 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 7: many times, with Bill Walsh and Joe Montana, Steve Young, 94 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 7: Jerry Rice, and then in Green Bay with Brett Farv 95 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 7: and Reggie White super Bowl. 96 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 5: After Super Bowl for Super Bowl. 97 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 7: When Mike and his staff got up there talking about 98 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 7: the Super Bowl process, it felt like he was talking 99 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 7: about preseason games. 100 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 5: Hey, guys, gonna be a little different. Here's what it is. 101 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 7: And we could just focus on the football, and I 102 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 7: think it helped me not feel like on that first Sunday, 103 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 7: I'm ready to play the game. I want to be 104 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 7: at my peak, at my best energy wise, focus wise, 105 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 7: detail wise on the real Sunday, and I thought coach 106 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 7: Holme Grin and his staff did an amazing job. 107 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike, did coach McDonald call you and and ask 108 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 3: you for your thoughts on how to prepare for this game? 109 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 4: No, No, he didn't. I was. I was ready though, 110 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 4: because we have talked about a number of things during 111 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 4: the season. But you know what, he's done pretty good 112 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 4: without my help. He really you know. 113 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 5: Why he didn't call you because my answer was so 114 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 5: spot on. 115 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, you know Matt. The thing is 116 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 4: with Matt, honestly, and he knows I love him. But 117 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 4: what happens when you get a quarterback who's really smart, 118 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 4: I mean really intelligent. Every once in a while, you 119 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 4: got to grab him by the throat. Every once in a. 120 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 5: While, that's true. I have a child like that, Mike. 121 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 7: But you know another thing Coach Holmgren did that I 122 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 7: really appreciate. And I don't know if I've ever told 123 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 7: you this, coach, but you know Sean McVeigh, when he 124 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 7: went up against the Patriots and he had two weeks 125 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 7: to prepare, he overdid it. He put way too many 126 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 7: plays and he talks about it all the time. And 127 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,119 Speaker 7: one thing I really appreciated how Mike had my back 128 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 7: is in the two weeks, if we wanted to we 129 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 7: put the game plan in the first week, If any 130 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 7: of the assistant coaches wanted to put in new plays, 131 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 7: and we had creative coaches and great teachers, if they 132 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 7: wanted to put in new plays, Mike was the you know, 133 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 7: he was the boss, and he was like, hey, do 134 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 7: you want to put it in a new play? 135 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 5: Something's got to come out. 136 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: Wow. 137 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 7: And I appreciated that as a player because I always 138 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 7: felt like with coach Holmgren, I could play fast and 139 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 7: confident because he didn't overload us trying to prove how 140 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 7: smart they were as coaches. He brought it down to 141 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 7: and I appreciated that. 142 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 6: Well, Madden, coach, I want to get your take on 143 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 6: the coaching experience advantage. You talked about coach Holmgren's experience 144 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 6: advantage that you had. How about Josh McDaniels, how about 145 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 6: Mike Vrabel. I know he hasn't coached in a Super Bowl. 146 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 6: McDaniels coached in many. Rabel's been there, kind of done 147 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 6: that learn from Belichick. Is that a tangible advantage over 148 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 6: the Seahawks this week? 149 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 7: Well, I would defer to coach Holmgren's thoughts on this, 150 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 7: but I think organizationally, there's an advanced team. There's all 151 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 7: these people that don't necessarily do the football, but you 152 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 7: know your equipment managers, and you're like, I just remember 153 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 7: my wife talking about how organized the Seahawks were when 154 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 7: we had won the National we had won the NFC 155 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 7: Championship game. There was an army of Seahawks employees that 156 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 7: met right away with the spouses and the families and said, hey. 157 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 5: Here's your job, here's what we're gonna do. 158 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 7: And I felt like going into that Super Bowl, all 159 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 7: I really was focused on was football. Yeah, and I 160 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 7: think the Patriots probably do a great job of that. 161 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 7: I know the Seahawks do. This is therefore super and 162 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 7: not that long of a time. These are all the 163 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 7: same people that worked for coach Homegrin mostly so they 164 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 7: know what they're doing in terms of like handling those logistics. 165 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike, how about you that coaching experience with rabel 166 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: Uh and McDaniels versus Kubiak and McDonald. 167 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, you know. I mean, I think because as 168 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 4: Matt would tell you, it's different you go there, and 169 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 4: particularly not the week you're at home, but when once 170 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 4: you get to the super Bowl venue, there's stuff going on. Well, 171 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 4: there's people flying, there's all sorts of stuff going around, 172 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 4: and if you can't focus, and you can't you haven't 173 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 4: had a little help in how to deal with it, 174 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 4: then it can grab you and it can mess up 175 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 4: just a little bit. But you know what, So, yeah, 176 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 4: that was very very important. In fact, I told you 177 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 4: the story that I had in Green Bay. I had 178 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 4: Don Beebe and Jim McMahon talk to the team. They 179 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 4: been in Super Bowls before and talked from a player's perspective. Now, 180 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 4: you couldn't get two more Matt, you know this, You 181 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 4: couldn't get two more different guys than Jim McMahon and 182 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 4: Don Deebe. So they looked at the week, but I 183 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 4: thought it was kind of funny, and it was. It 184 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 4: was they were honest, so the kids, the players got that. 185 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 7: I sort of laughed because one one funny thing that 186 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 7: we still joke about that Coach Holmgren said that I 187 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 7: don't think he meant it to be funny, but we 188 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 7: were in Detroit and we were kind of near the 189 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 7: Canadian border, and Coach Holmgren was trying to, you know, 190 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 7: impress on us like, hey, guys, this is not the 191 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 7: time to party and hang out or where's I got 192 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 7: to be focused on the game. And so his way 193 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 7: of doing it was to scare us a little bit, like, hey, 194 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 7: guys up there in Canada, you know, you don't know 195 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 7: what you're going to get up there. You know the 196 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 7: police they might not treat you with all this, And 197 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 7: it was it was in a way kind of ripping 198 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 7: Canada just a little bit. And I'm sitting next to 199 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 7: We're all sitting next near We had one Canadian player 200 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 7: and our team j p drsh Are long Star. 201 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 5: We look back at him. He's like, come on, coach, 202 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 5: this is so come on coach. That it was. 203 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 7: It was so funny, but but he it was just 204 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 7: that the kind of the don bebe like that mindset, like, okay, 205 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 7: you got McMahon, you got. 206 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 5: Bb uh, it was right, I don't know. I chuckle 207 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 5: about that. 208 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 2: Well. 209 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 3: My my favorite part of this interview so far is 210 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 3: when Matt Hasselbeck came by said a load of Mike, 211 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 3: and Mike had no idea who the hell you were, 212 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 3: And that. 213 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: Was my favorite part of this conversation so far. So 214 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: we got to make sure he knows the voice. 215 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 7: And not just because listen, I'm used to hearing Mike 216 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 7: Holmgren in my helm. 217 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 218 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 5: Correct, but I never had a talk back. But so 219 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 5: that's that's why. 220 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 3: How about how about both your thoughts. Mike will start 221 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 3: with you on on Drake May. I think everyone's kind 222 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 3: of not freaking out but semi concerned about the guy's legs. 223 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: He's a big boy, he's six four two twenty five. 224 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 3: You put the Patriots in third and one, third and two, 225 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: and that's gonna be a weapon for them. Talk about 226 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: the running quarterback, Mike and how much that's got McDonald 227 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 3: up at night thinking about this game. 228 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 4: Well, he's got that he can make plays with his legs, 229 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 4: and for young guy, I'm very impressed with this young quarterback, 230 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 4: and so what he has to be careful of is 231 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 4: when he starts to run, they're gonna really try and 232 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 4: not hit him hard, and so he's got to be careful. 233 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 4: He doesn't himself so and he does the other thing, 234 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 4: it would ruin him. With Steve Young just a little bit. Guys. 235 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 4: You know, he was a really good runner, but in 236 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 4: his first couple of years with us, sometimes instead of 237 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 4: going to his fourth rad or third rade or fourth rae, 238 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 4: he just take off and run because a lot of 239 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 4: times it worked. But he had he could throw it 240 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 4: and get get the same yards if he just held 241 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 4: on to it a little longer. And I think May 242 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 4: is probably in that same position. So but he's a 243 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 4: good player and they're going to have to control him 244 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 4: a little bit. 245 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree with all that. I'm very friendly with Drake. 246 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 7: He's an incredible kid. I think he's I bet you 247 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 7: he rushes for forty yards in this game. I mean, 248 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 7: he's got that kind of scramble ability. They're also not 249 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 7: afraid to run him the quarter quarterback ISO draw type stuff. 250 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 7: But Coach Holmgrean's absolutely right. He has way too much 251 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 7: adventure at the end of his runs, at the end 252 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 7: of his throwaways. He's in that blue tent way too much. 253 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 7: His first year, he missed two games because he slid late, 254 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 7: and two head injuries brain injuries, basically because he slid late. 255 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 7: Even this situation with his shoulder that we're all talking about, 256 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 7: he slid too late. Like so go on and get 257 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 7: you know. But I'm impressed with the intangibles with him. 258 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 7: I mean, he's he's off the charts in all the 259 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 7: ways that matter, and I think he's just scratching the 260 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 7: surface of the quarterback that he's going to be. 261 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 5: Coach, let's start. 262 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 4: You have to say one thing though, YEA regarding Matt. 263 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 4: Regarding Matt is that if you ever needed anyone to 264 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 4: run a quarterback sneak for you, he was the guy. 265 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 4: He would take him over there to the side of 266 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 4: the practice field and they practiced the quarterback sneak. 267 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 7: Coach, you know, the barnyard is a thing, you know, 268 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 7: that's what we should have been doing. We should have 269 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 7: been putting like a John Carlson type in there or 270 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 7: somebody like that that would have been much bigger, stronger, 271 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 7: faster than me. 272 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 6: It was great to watch coach and I want to 273 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 6: get Matt's take on this as well. I'm fascinated to 274 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 6: see how aggressive Seattle is going to be offensively if 275 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 6: they do feel like they have the advantage with their 276 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 6: defense over the Patriots offense. How many chances? How aggressive 277 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 6: you want to be coach going to this game? Are 278 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 6: you comfortable kind of playing like that against San Francisco 279 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 6: and let's just let's just score twenty or twenty three 280 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 6: and win this puppy in a low scoring game. 281 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 4: No, I think they're going in and Dick really with 282 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 4: this is our offense, you know, and we're gonna score points. 283 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 4: That's our job to score points. They're not. I don't 284 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 4: think I could be wrong, but I don't think Klint 285 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 4: Kubeck and I don't think Mike has directed him this way. 286 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 4: You know, well's let's play close to the vest because 287 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 4: they're not gonna score many points. We don't need to 288 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 4: score any points. I don't think they think that way. 289 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 4: I think they're gonna just go My job is to 290 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 4: score points. I'm the offensive coordinator. We're gonna call plays 291 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 4: to get in the end zone and play the game 292 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 4: that way. 293 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I'll follow on that. The Patriots defense. 294 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 7: They spent a lot of money in that secondary. They 295 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 7: got two guys that can cover. Yea, they feel good 296 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 7: about it, but I think, yeah, absolutely. 297 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 5: But here's the deal. Sam Darnold has the. 298 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 7: Green light one on one with JSN or Rashid Jahead 299 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 7: anytime he wants it on a deep ball, he's got 300 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 7: the green light. Third and fourth, but he's got the 301 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 7: green light. So I don't think that's necessarily the way 302 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 7: to attack this team, this defense, but I don't think 303 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 7: they're gonna shy away from it either. 304 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what. 305 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: A lot has been made on the other side of 306 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: the ball about the seahawks inability to run against the 307 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 3: Rams two point nine yards per kerry for the Hawks 308 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 3: in the NFC Championship, they put up thirty one points. 309 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: They want the damn game part of that, obviously with 310 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: some special teams. Are you, Matt concerned at all about 311 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 3: the Seahawks ability to run on these guys. 312 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 7: I think that's the wrong way to look at the 313 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 7: run game. I think run efficiency is the better way. 314 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 7: And so like Mike Homngrin, you know, coach, you could 315 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 7: say if I'm wrong here, but second and one, he's 316 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 7: calling fullback at zero to Max Strong, he's calling a 317 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 7: run that Hey, I just I want to this is 318 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 7: a free play and and and maybe. 319 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 5: It gets two yards, but it's second one. We've got 320 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 5: a first down. 321 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 2: We're good. 322 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 5: To third and two we run for two. Great, We're good. 323 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 7: You know, those numbers get so skewed when you have 324 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 7: one or two explosive runs because wide receivers are blocking downfield. 325 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 7: I think the Seahawks can. Absolutely, they're good at running 326 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 7: certain plays. I think I think they're gonna be okay 327 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 7: that that whole like average yard per attempt, I think 328 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 7: that can be fool's gold in terms of stats. 329 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike, how about you, same question? 330 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree with Matt. I think you know, 331 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 4: and and although I think Clink calls it when I've 332 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 4: been watching him a little bit definitely than I did, 333 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 4: because I was a little conservative. I wanted I wanted 334 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 4: to get the first down, to have four more downs 335 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 4: or three more downs, That's what I shot. People knew that, 336 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 4: defenses know that, but they still got to play, you know, 337 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 4: and you got Max Strong, you got Walter Jones, you 338 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 4: got Steve Hutchinson, you got those guys. You can get 339 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 4: the first down and so rarely, rarely did I go 340 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 4: for the home run and the big fake on that 341 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 4: give me, give me some more downs. 342 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 7: But I think what Mike Hongrian did such a good 343 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 7: job of and it helped me eventually when I finally 344 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 7: got it. He called the play on second and one, 345 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 7: and he was already thinking ahead to the next first down, 346 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 7: so we pretty much knew we had a guaranteed first 347 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 7: down on that play, and he had already called the 348 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 7: next play. And now all of a sudden, what everyone 349 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 7: still to this day says to me, like, oh my gosh, 350 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 7: you and that Mike Hongrin tempo gave us fits. He 351 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 7: called the next play, and here we are, We're on 352 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 7: the ball, we're running the next play. That is his 353 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 7: kind of aggressive shot play on first down, and he 354 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 7: got a he got a leg up on him, and uh, 355 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 7: and everyone was involved. Tobeck was involved, like everyone understood 356 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 7: how we did things and and uh again, I don't 357 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 7: think that shows up in the stats, but it's next 358 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 7: level and defense is hated, Matt. 359 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 6: How about on the flip side, how successful do you 360 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 6: think the Patriots will be running the ball again. It's 361 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 6: this front, It's the number one EPA per play run 362 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 6: defense in the NFL. 363 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 7: With Seattle, I think they got to get creative. That's 364 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 7: why I think quarterback run game could be part of it. 365 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 7: You know, they've got a committee there with Reminder Stevenson 366 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 7: and Traveon Henderson and all that kind of stuff. So uh, 367 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 7: to me, I think they're gonna feel not great about 368 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 7: how they're going to move the ball. And I think 369 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 7: the Patriots are gonna empty their bag of tricks all 370 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 7: season long. You put in these trick plays, these gadget plays, 371 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 7: you practice them all year. You might put it in 372 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 7: for an opponent week seven or week eleven. 373 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 5: You practice it. 374 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 7: You can't take it with you, right right, Josh McDaniels, 375 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 7: he's got enough on his resume. He has the courage 376 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 7: to do it, and he also might need to do it. 377 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 7: So if I'm the Seahawks defense, I'm digging deep. I'm 378 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 7: finding out who's a lefty, who's al righty, who was 379 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 7: a high school quarterback who played baseball? All of it, 380 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 7: Because I do think they're gonna have to smoke and 381 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 7: mirrors manufacture something. 382 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 5: You think, you coach, Mike, you agree. 383 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 4: With a lot that, Yeah, I agree, I totally agree. Man, 384 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 4: I think, and I'm glad you mentioned Josh mc daniels 385 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 4: because he is really a good coach. He is really 386 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 4: a good coach. Now as a head coach, you know, 387 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 4: it always didn't work out, but as a coordinator getting 388 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 4: the most out of the players, he has. He has 389 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 4: done that, and so I expect I expect nothing less there. 390 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 4: I think they're going to go after it and then 391 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 4: pull some things out that they have never seen before. 392 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think they're going to have to 393 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 2: do that. 394 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 3: That that game in two thousand and six still burns 395 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 3: in my brain man, as a fan, right, I mean, well, that's. 396 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 7: A great example. The Steelers. I think we're a wild 397 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 7: card team. We were the number one seed in the NFC. 398 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 7: They pull they pull out a Bruce arians Gadget play. 399 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 7: It's Antoine Raindelel throwing one to hinz Ward and kind 400 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 7: of in your head as a player like come on, man, 401 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 7: that doesn't count. 402 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 5: It counts, right, you know. 403 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 7: I'm sure the Belichick Patriots feel that way about the 404 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 7: Philly Special. 405 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 5: You know, it's it's like, hey, if you can make 406 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 5: these plays work, it can be it can be a 407 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 5: difference maker. 408 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 3: I want I want to ask both of you guys 409 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 3: in coach Matt's got to run here in a second. 410 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 3: But the Jeremy Stevens thing with the bus, I mean, 411 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 3: I remember being on Radio Row in Detroit, and Humel 412 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 3: and I were sitting there on Radio Row when the 413 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 3: word came out that Jeremy had said we're gonna ruin 414 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 3: Jerome's party, and both our heads just sank, or like, 415 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 3: are you kidding me? 416 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 2: How big of a problem was that for you guys 417 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: in the locker room. 418 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 5: I think that's the first time I've ever heard of it. 419 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 7: Really, I'm not even sure I know what you're talking about, Mike, 420 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 7: you're telling me, you know, you know. 421 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: What I'm talking about. 422 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 4: Jeremy did though that I didn't know about. He made 423 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 4: a comment about Joey Porter, Yes, and I grabbed him 424 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 4: on that one. I said, what you know, because I 425 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 4: talked to them, don't let's not give him any bulded 426 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 4: war material. Don't do that, And he blessed already couldn't 427 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 4: help himself. Now, that thing about the bus, I didn't 428 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 4: know that. 429 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I you know, it wasn't even that big 430 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 7: of a bullet. But that's I think the thing about 431 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 7: the Super Bowl everything magnified, right, everything you. 432 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 4: Know has to go. But the thing that I wanted 433 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 4: to real quick say is that the referee Bill what 434 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 4: was his name, Bill Levy, you know who? I knew 435 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 4: him in high school. He was my high school referee. 436 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 4: When I was coaching in San Jose. He came over 437 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 4: to me and told me, Matt, I'm gonna I'm gonna 438 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 4: penalize as beect for trying to draw the other team 439 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 4: off side. And he was Matt was yelling because there 440 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 4: was a Pittsburgh crowd. It was the yellow flags. It 441 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 4: was loud, and so I go, he's not doing it. 442 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,239 Speaker 4: We're not doing that. Come on, Billy, We're not doing that. 443 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 4: He goes, I'm going to throw the flag. Then I 444 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 4: made the huge mistake. I said, you know what, don't 445 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 4: let this game be too big for you. And I 446 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 4: think he got mad at me and he started throwing 447 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 4: flags all over the place. 448 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 2: He's talking about the official, not you, by the way. 449 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 4: You know I'm talking about the official. 450 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 7: Correct Well, Mike coach Coach Homewarn has a larger than 451 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 7: life presence, and it was as a player I never 452 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 7: really felt like we were too talkative with the referees. 453 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 5: Because he was on them. 454 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 7: It was like that was his role as part of 455 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 7: his game day. And so no, we appreciated him having 456 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 7: our back. But even on the you know, the no 457 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 7: bulletin board material and all that kind of stuff. When 458 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 7: you get to a Super Bowl and Coach Holmgren and 459 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 7: the other coaches like they would say it, say it, 460 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 7: say it, but I don't think you can fully understand 461 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 7: how how big something can go when you're here a 462 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 7: week with that kind of stuff. 463 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: Are you staying for the game, by the way. 464 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 5: I am here for you. 465 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 2: Good for you? 466 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, bringing the girls. 467 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,239 Speaker 7: My daughter Mallory's at Stanford now and she's got her 468 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 7: first game up at UC Davis on Saturday. So it's 469 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 7: like literally worked out the best possible way for us 470 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 7: schedule wise. 471 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 3: Well, nobody's down here for free. Everybody's promoting something, everyone's 472 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 3: marketing something. 473 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 2: What do you got? 474 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 7: So it's kind of a downer. 475 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 5: But so my dad passed away in April. He was seventy. 476 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 7: He was in a great shape, had a heart attack 477 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 7: doing something he loved, getting ready to cut his grass. 478 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,479 Speaker 7: And so my mom encouraged my brothers and me. She's aid, 479 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 7: he boys, I would love for you to get screened 480 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 7: for you know, cholesterol, blood pressure, heart calcium, all the stuff. 481 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 7: And I feel like I'm in pretty good shape. I'm 482 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 7: in better shape than most of the people I hang 483 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 7: out with. But my LDL cholesterol numbers were too high. 484 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 7: They were just too high, and so that puts you 485 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 7: at risk for stroke, heart attack, dementia, all these things. 486 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 7: And so I think I was a way to sort 487 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 7: of pay it forward, to share, is to share my 488 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 7: story about my dad. It's some of these things you 489 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 7: can eat right exercise, but it's just invisible, maybe genetic 490 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 7: or whatever. So to get your LDL cholesterol tested, you 491 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 7: can go to cholesterolconnect dot org. It's free, takes about 492 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 7: ten minutes. You get a little care Bears band aid, 493 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 7: it goes with it. But truly, like my quarterback coach 494 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 7: in Green Bay under Mike Hongrin was Andy Reid, and 495 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 7: Mike made him the quarterback coach, but he had never 496 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 7: really coached quarterbacks. He was like an O line coach 497 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 7: and coach tight ends too. And Andy would get made 498 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 7: fun of by Brett Farv and Doug Peterson and those guys. 499 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 5: But Andy, you only have one thing to say to 500 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 5: us as a coach. 501 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 7: He would always say, guys, bend your knees, stay low, 502 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 7: Stay low, And he would say, it doesn't guarantee that 503 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 7: you're gonna throw a touchdown pass, but it's gonna correct. 504 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 5: A lot of the issues you have. Stay low. 505 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 7: And so I don't know, for whatever reason in my head, 506 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 7: I don't know a lot about cholesterol, and I'm not 507 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 7: a doctor or whatever, but I know if I get 508 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 7: in that LDL cholesterol safe zone that get my cholesterol low, 509 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 7: it's gonna lower my risks for some bad stuff in 510 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 7: the same way that Mike, Mike Holmgren's old quarterback coach 511 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 7: used to tell us. 512 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 2: So I love it. I love it, matco to see you, man, Yeah, coach. 513 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 7: I'm not used to you agreeing with me so much, 514 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 7: but I appreciate it today. 515 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 4: Thanks man. 516 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 5: All right, the family same. 517 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 3: You two got it all right, Mike home Bran, Matt Hasselback. 518 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 3: Thanks Matt for coming over. Mike, You're not going anywhere. 519 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:50,719 Speaker 2: All right. 520 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 3: If you think you're gonna get off the hook with 521 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 3: just one segment with Matt Hasselback, you are mistaken. Can 522 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 3: we come back and have you on one more time 523 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 3: after the break? 524 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 5: Does that work? 525 00:22:58,640 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 4: Absolutely? 526 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 3: All right with Mike Homgrin next on ninety three to 527 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 3: three KJARFM Super Bowl Super Bowl. 528 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: Now back to our live coverage from Radio Row in 529 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: San Francisco, brought to you by Delta Airlines, by Snow 530 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: Call Me Casino and Hotel, by the Evergreen Council on 531 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: problem gambling people come first, Construction Group and by Toyota 532 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: of Kirkland. 533 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 2: Here's Softie and Dick. 534 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 3: All right, Well, I was fine with Mike Congrad, Matt 535 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 3: hasselback with us and during the last segment, but we 536 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 3: got to have Mike to ourselves right for a few 537 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 3: minutes here corner radio show. We couldn't let hassleback hog 538 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 3: everything for crying out loud back here on Radio Row. 539 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 5: Haws. 540 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 2: ABC's a media guy now, so he was, Yes, he 541 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 2: was talkative at the Super Bowl. 542 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 3: Bo Jackson, Mike is going to join us at five 543 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 3: o'clock tonight on the show. Uh cannot wait to talk 544 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 3: to Bo Jackson. Luke Wilson coming up at six pm. 545 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 3: What do you remember about Bo Jackson? I mean, either 546 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 3: coaching against him or talking to him, scouting him. Any 547 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 3: thoughts on Bo Jackson before he joins us at five 548 00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 3: tonight Mike. 549 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 4: Well, scouting him, he just went, whoever gets this guy 550 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 4: is going to have something really special? You know. Then 551 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 4: and then as a player, you know, he was unbelievable. 552 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 4: And then the fact is then unfortunately he got hurt, 553 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 4: you know, and so but he was everything you know. Well, 554 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,959 Speaker 4: have you remembered the game against the Seattle with uh? 555 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 3: Oh? 556 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? With you know the boss? 557 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 4: He was perfect for the Raiders. 558 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 3: By the way, did I you sar Kathy off the 559 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 3: dog behind you? Is that what's going on? 560 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 4: Back to yes, yes, I told her excuse me, I 561 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 4: asked her to keep the noise sounds just a little bit. 562 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 4: And then what didn't happen? 563 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: No? 564 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 2: Got it? 565 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 6: Well, coach, you know, the the jack of all trade 566 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 6: safety NICKI me and worry for uh Seattle injured his 567 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 6: ankle and practiced yesterday, he said, he rolled. It doesn't 568 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 6: look like it's anything too serious. But how do you 569 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 6: manage Super Bowl weak injuries? Are they different than regular 570 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 6: season injuries? You might pull him back a little more 571 00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 6: from practice than you might normally. 572 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 4: Well, I think I think you do. If you know, 573 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 4: if you get injured during the week, then yeah, you're 574 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 4: you're you know, the game is the most important thing. 575 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 4: So get him ready to play the football game. He's 576 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 4: had a whole season of learning stuff. Now just get 577 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 4: him ready. I don't know is the ankle are they 578 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 4: saying it's what are they saying about it? 579 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 2: He rolled it? 580 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 5: They anticipate him. 581 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 6: Mike McDonald is confident that he's going to play. We 582 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 6: just hope he's close to one hundred percent. There's really 583 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 6: no way to tell how close to one hundred percent 584 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 6: he'll be. 585 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, you know, you guys know this that there 586 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 4: are ways the medical staff and can get somebody to 587 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 4: play a game, and then they'll deal with He's got 588 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 4: a whole off season to feel better, and so if 589 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,719 Speaker 4: he didn't really wreck it, okay, and it was some 590 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 4: sort of a sprain, they can get him ready to. 591 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 3: Play, right, Mike, you remember all the Super Bowls that 592 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 3: you coached in, whether as an assistant or a head coach, 593 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 3: and maybe there was something that really it just said 594 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 3: to you, we can't let this happen, right. I don't know, 595 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 3: Maybe I'm wrong, but were there games where you said 596 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 3: to yourself, we've got to make sure that they don't 597 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 3: beat us this way or don't beat us that way. 598 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 3: And if there is like number one. Do you have 599 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 3: any examples of that from previous Super Bowls that you 600 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 3: coached in? And if you do, is there maybe one 601 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 3: thing in this game Sunday that you would think if 602 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 3: you're Mike McDonald, you can't lose the game like this 603 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 3: dot dot dot. 604 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 4: Well, and it didn't happen with the forty nine ers 605 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 4: because they, you know, we I was an assistant coach, 606 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 4: even though I called the games and stuff. Things worked 607 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 4: pretty well in Green Bay, worked pretty well the first game, 608 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 4: the second game, the second game in nineteen when was 609 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 4: it ninety seven? Right? The what what we couldn't do 610 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 4: was stop the run because we got guys hurt and 611 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 4: we had Jerry you know, we had Reggie White in there, 612 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 4: but we lost a couple of defensive linemen and Treel 613 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 4: Davis just kind of was doing his thing. And then 614 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 4: the worst thing that ever happened, I lost I lost 615 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 4: it down and right near the end of the game, 616 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 4: I lost it down. In my mind, I was so angry. 617 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 4: That just shows you I've since matured. But it's too bad. 618 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 4: I wasn't more mature that night. But you know, I 619 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 4: lo It didn't really affect the outcome of the football game. 620 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 4: But I'm going, and I thought back on it, I go, 621 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,479 Speaker 4: And that's why I couldn't recover from that game very fast. 622 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 4: You know. It was hard, you know, but Dave, you know, 623 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 4: you go in with the plan and you know that 624 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 4: you have to stop Roethlisberger. You have to do this, 625 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 4: you have to stop this guy. And but that was 626 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 4: a defensive thought. Offensive offensively, I always thought, we we're 627 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 4: just we'll just do our thing. Honestly, We'll do our thing, 628 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 4: and so uh not. Then I had great defensive coordinators, 629 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 4: so they did it. That was their deal. And so 630 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 4: you know, I have no regrets really other than the 631 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 4: fact that I told you about getting mad at the 632 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 4: official that was Pat Well coach. 633 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 5: And we had Hasselbeck on last segment. 634 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 6: All four of us agreed that stopping Drake Drake Meg's 635 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 6: legs is going to be of paramount importance for Mike McDonald. 636 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 6: So tell us how you would do that. I mean, 637 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 6: would you would you have a spy on him? Would 638 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 6: you just tell your edge rushers to just set that 639 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 6: edge and make sure he doesn't get outside of you? 640 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 6: How would you go about best stopping Drake May's run? 641 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 4: The best way to stop. I don't think it's spying. 642 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 4: I think historically when teams do that, it hasn't worked 643 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 4: that well against a really good running quarterback. You know, 644 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 4: one that's you're asking one guy to make the tackle, 645 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 4: there's a there's room between him. Oftentimes the guy misses 646 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 4: or the guy outruns him or whatever. The thing with 647 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 4: the seahug with the Seahawks have they have tremendous team speed, 648 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,719 Speaker 4: and so they I think the offense, the defensive line 649 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 4: can rush, they can pressure him, make him run and 650 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 4: then and then watch all those guys react to him. 651 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 4: I don't I don't think that's a real safe thing 652 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 4: right Patriots to do. But I think I think they're 653 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 4: just gonna play their defense. I don't think they're gonna spy. 654 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 4: I could be wrong about that, but I don't think 655 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 4: they're gonna spy. They're just saying they're telling their defense. 656 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 4: He takes off rally right angles, all this let all 657 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 4: the stuff they've taught all year. 658 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's gonna be It's gonna be nuts on Sunday. 659 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 3: These things always are. I mean, you know, one one 660 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 3: bad snap, you know, a guy falls down whatever, blah 661 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 3: blah blah, and the whole thing can get blown up 662 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 3: and go the opposite way. But I know you'd be 663 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 3: rooting for the Seahawks on Sunday. You know, Brady's taking 664 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 3: some heat. By the way, now you see what Brady said. No, 665 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 3: So Brady was on Jim Gray's podcast, and we're gonna 666 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 3: talk to Jim Gray about this coming up five thirty. 667 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 3: And as an ex Patriot quarterback, you said, I have 668 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 3: no dog in this fight. And Patriot fans like, what 669 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 3: the hell are you talking about? You got no dog 670 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 3: in this fight? You were a Patriot for you know, 671 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 3: a decade plus. And I get the fact that he's 672 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 3: part owner of the Raiders and he's hiring QBIAC and 673 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 3: all that stuff, but nobody would bat it right, Dick, 674 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 3: if he was rooting for the Patriots this Sunday. He 675 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 3: should be rooting for the Patriots Sunday, Mike, don't you like, you. 676 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 4: Know, totally understandable, absolutely absolutely, you know it's a no. Well, 677 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 4: I guess he's trying to be correct, but it doesn't 678 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,479 Speaker 4: surprise me at all. The Patriot fans, by the way, 679 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 4: you guys ever been to a game at that stadium? 680 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 2: No, never have. 681 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 4: It's not fun for a visiting team or a visiting 682 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 4: guy in the stands. They're like, the Philly fans are different. 683 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 4: Stadiums are pretty hard, right, and that's one of them, 684 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 4: right hard on a visiting fan, and so it doesn't 685 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 4: surprise me at all. They're fired up about this. 686 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 2: Well, I think I were not there this Sunday. 687 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 4: Man. 688 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 3: It's gonna be good, all right, Mike, great stuff. Enjoy 689 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 3: the game Sunday and we'll talk soon, buddy. 690 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 2: Appreciate pal. 691 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 4: All right, take care, guys. 692 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 3: You bet Mike combrin with us. Bo Jackson gonna join us, 693 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 3: coming up at five o'clock tonight. Cannot wait to talk 694 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 3: to Bo, Jim Gray Wilson. A lot more to come 695 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 3: on a busy Thursday, Day four from Super Bowl sixty. 696 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 3: And don't forget we got the game for you Sunday 697 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 3: at three thirty with Kevin Harlan