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Speaker 2: Uh, appreciate you listening in.

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Speaker 3: Let's take this to our guy, Bob man Jean from

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Speaker 3: the University of Cincinnati and Nova Care joining us each

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Speaker 3: and every week as he does right now.

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Speaker 4: Bob, how are you Tony having another great data on

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Speaker 4: here in Derrik Catland, you know, getting ready for basketball

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Speaker 4: practice and you know in two weeks we scrimmaged Michigan

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Speaker 4: Plus we're playing Iowa State on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: My big question for you, Bob, and you know, I

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Speaker 3: know we're going to get to an injury point of

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Speaker 3: view here, but eight years ago today the inception of

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Speaker 3: Sincy three sixty today. I just wanted to know from you,

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Speaker 3: how has Cincy three to sixty changed your life?

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Speaker 5: Great question.

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Speaker 4: It's an unbelievable show. I have fun on it. I

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Speaker 4: Some of your features, obviously I can't say your gambling

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Speaker 4: only because I'm not allowed to participate. But some of

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Speaker 4: the callback responses that your people give are interesting. And

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Speaker 4: one of these days I'm going to leave a callback

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Speaker 4: and say something stupid like some of the other people do.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you for that, Bob. What I want to

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Speaker 3: People are so entrenched in football season that's happening right now,

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Speaker 3: When you start talking about playing multiple sports, that maybe

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Speaker 3: there are so many people that say play as many

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Speaker 3: also that line that we've talked about of making sure

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Speaker 4: we're preaching now to parents and athletes alike that this

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Speaker 4: is not good. These teams should be playing multiple sports.

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Speaker 4: You know, basketball players should be you know, participating in baseball,

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Speaker 4: Think the whole concept of having these athletes some specialized

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Speaker 4: They don't spend enough time working their mobility. Mobility starts

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Speaker 3: Obviously something that needs to be taken into accountability. Bob,

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Speaker 3: game in Niffert Stadium on Saturday. As always, we appreciate

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Speaker 8: Well, Tony, I'm talking to high school royalty here though.

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Speaker 8: Right Oh night out there at Veterans Memorial Stadium. Huh,

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Speaker 8: you're going to give a pregame speech. You're the Honorary Captain. Right,

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Speaker 8: it's a big night.

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Speaker 7: You're ready.

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Speaker 3: It's a big night at the at the VET Veterans

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Speaker 3: Chili Crossdown, Showdown rolls through reading the tailor.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm excited reading coming off.

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Speaker 3: They got their first win, they got the monkey off

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, we picked these games before the year

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Speaker 7: Is your Wyoming's always there.

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Speaker 5: A lot of fun. The people at ready.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, what will be the theme of your speech? Do

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Speaker 2: I don't know yet.

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Speaker 3: I know Readin is so deeply rooted with the blue

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Speaker 3: And the atmosphere at the pit tomorrow night, with with

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Speaker 7: I mean, there's a lot of pride.

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Speaker 8: And it's very interesting because we do about fifteen pep

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Speaker 8: you're right, Redding's won out in Cleeves. It's tailor. I mean,

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Speaker 7: Think of that. But think about this.

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Speaker 8: Elder has not won the GCL South outright. This is

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Speaker 7: Think about that.

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Speaker 2: Insane.

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Speaker 3: You know, I've been watching a lot of high school

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Speaker 7: Shocks me Friday night.

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Speaker 8: And again, I think.

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Speaker 7: They're really really good.

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Speaker 2: How many years now? Is this for the showdown.

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Speaker 8: Twenty eight to long time my friend, Which means a

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Speaker 7: Things, one of them old.

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Speaker 8: Yes, but it's but you know, what it really means

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Speaker 7: It's still there.

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Speaker 8: I mean it's it's still there and people love it.

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Speaker 8: And it's again. I know, there's all the focus on

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Speaker 2: And you always just feel that it does it.

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Speaker 3: It feels like, you know, at the college level, college

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Speaker 3: You guys do it throughout the week. It's not just

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we do it on social It's at Xtown Showdown

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Speaker 8: for Fox nineteen and Joe and Jeremy do a great

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Speaker 3: Let's go Tom. The Showdown is unbelievable and keeps getting better.

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Speaker 3: So appreciate everything you're doing for high school sports, and

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Speaker 3: certainly appreciate you taking some time for us today and

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Speaker 8: Absolutely one of only two grass deal still, that's right.

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Speaker 3: We might water that baby down tomorrow night. Let's muck

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Speaker 8: Well, you better get the sprinklers out, brother, because they

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Speaker 7: It's all good. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate Tom. We'll see you tomorrow night. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: That is Tom Gamble from the Skyline Chili Crosstown Showdown.

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Speaker 2: We'll keep moving along.

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Speaker 2: What she's able to do?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 2: What's up, Jeff?

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Speaker 6: A happy anniversary boy?

443
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Speaker 2: Thank you?

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Speaker 5: Thanks Jeff.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely Hey, any of these Reds fans thinking if Kyle

446
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Speaker 6: Schwarber were from the middle of Nebraska that the Reds

447
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 6: would even consider offering him twenty five to thirty million

448
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Speaker 6: dollars a year.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think they'll consider offering him twenty five

450
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Speaker 3: million a year. And he's from Middletown.

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Speaker 6: I get it that. That's the whole point. I'm like, people,

452
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Speaker 6: Kyle Schwarber is not coming here unless you want to

453
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Speaker 6: trade the Phillies Hunter Green. Maybe I don't know who.

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Speaker 2: Okay, wait a second now, Hunter Green for Schwarmer.

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Speaker 6: I hate to disappoint people, but I don't think old

456
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Speaker 6: mister Schwarber is coming.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

458
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Speaker 6: I think the Phillies are going to cough up whatever

459
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Speaker 6: amount it takes to keep him there because he's the hometown.

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Speaker 6: Not his hometown, but he's a big hero there. Yeah.

461
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Speaker 3: I think it's important to set the expectations early in

462
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Speaker 3: this Reds off season that it's just not going to happen.

463
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Speaker 2: Let's get that.

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Speaker 6: My next question, Let's make three comparison between the Reds

465
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Speaker 6: and the Bengals. Biggest roster holes, worse on field coaching management,

466
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Speaker 6: worse front office between the two teams.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, I feel like right now the Bengals have

468
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Speaker 3: worst roster holes. Yeah, I think the front office. I

469
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Speaker 3: still I agree with Austin. I think the Bengals have tried.

470
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Speaker 3: I just don't think they've got it right in some

471
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Speaker 3: of that, so I'll give them the edge there. Is

472
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Speaker 3: it crazy to say coaching is a push? I mean

473
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Speaker 3: I think push, but it's not the good kind of push. Yeah,

474
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 3: it ain't a touch push any successful one.

475
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Speaker 6: Have we moved to Tito the mediocre?

476
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Speaker 7: Now?

477
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Speaker 6: Is that what we're looking at?

478
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Speaker 7: Yeah?

479
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 3: When when he puts salin there and then salad delivered,

480
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Speaker 3: I thought Tito the Magnificent had one more ride in them,

481
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Speaker 3: but left the bad taste in my mouth. Yeah, it's

482
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Speaker 3: not the way you want to go into an offseason.

483
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Speaker 3: That's for darn sure.

484
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Speaker 6: But would we be happy with a twenty five home

485
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Speaker 6: run a year bat in the offseason?

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Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, for this team, they desperately need it. They're

487
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Speaker 3: the only team that's ever made the postseason without one

488
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 3: without an average over two seventy and a player to

489
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Speaker 3: hit twenty five or more home runs.

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Speaker 6: But we don't need Schwarber or Judge. We just need

491
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Speaker 6: a consistent guy who hits long balls.

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Speaker 3: Yes, in this ballpark, which would mean they would have

493
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Speaker 3: to maybe adapt to the idea that home runs are

494
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 3: not in fact rally killers, but a lot of teams

495
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Speaker 3: rely on them to be successful. We also can't you

496
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Speaker 3: go into the offseason assuming that guys are going to

497
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Speaker 3: take a step forward. You can't assume that Matt McLean's

498
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,199
Speaker 3: going to be better. You can't assume that, you know,

499
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 3: Sal Stewart is just going to produce the same way

500
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Speaker 3: like you have to try to improve every part of

501
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Speaker 3: the roster. You can't just assume, oh, well, Spencer Steer,

502
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Speaker 3: fully healthy, is going to hit thirty home runs. No,

503
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Speaker 3: we don't know what that's gonna look like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think one of the more I think one of

506
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Speaker 3: the more fascinating offseason questions is Matt McClain and what

507
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 3: that's going to look like. He cannot come into spring

508
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 3: training next year as the starting second basement.

509
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Speaker 5: He just can't.

510
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think yeah, it's gonna be, you know, man,

511
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Speaker 6: February is going to be the real doldrooms for you guys.

512
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 6: That's a bad feeling before spring training starts up. So

513
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Speaker 6: all right, we'll have a good afternoon, gents.

514
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Jeff, appreciate it. We've not done this yet

515
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Speaker 3: this week, Austin. Let's take a look here at the

516
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Speaker 3: a little bit of the schedule coming up this weekend

517
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Speaker 3: college slate first, and one of those marquee college football

518
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Speaker 3: games is what's gonna happen at Nippert Stadium Iowa State

519
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 3: against the Cincinnati Bearcats. Right now, Austin, still the Bearcat's

520
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 3: a one and a half point favorite. I know Iowa

521
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 3: State is without both starting cornerbacks right now, and they

522
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 3: had a very lengthy injury report today with players that

523
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 3: are questionable. The only player is still questionable for the

524
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Speaker 3: Bearcats Dante Corleone. That should be a good one. It

525
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 3: does not get any easier for Mark Stoops they go

526
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Speaker 3: to Georgia. Speaking of not getting any easier. Luke fickles bunch.

527
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,959
Speaker 3: They had a bye week Austin. Before the bye they

528
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 3: got boat raced at home by Maryland. Wisconsin is not

529
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Speaker 3: in a goods place right now. No, they now go

530
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 3: to the Big House after that, Iowa, and then they

531
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Speaker 3: get the number one and number two respective teams in

532
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 3: the country Ohio State and Oregon. They still got to

533
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 3: play Indiana, they still got to play Illinois, they still

534
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 3: got to play Washington and Minnesota Austin. I don't think

535
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Speaker 3: Luke Fickle gets to a bowl game in Wisconsin. Yeah,

536
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 3: and I don't think he keeps his job. Nope, they

537
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 3: do not like him in Wisconsin. Not many Top twenty

538
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 3: five matchups though, across the board. Texas Florida I think

539
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 3: can be a sneaky good game because of how Florida

540
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 3: was viewed going into the year and what Texas has

541
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Speaker 3: done or not done. What about Alabama and Vandy because

542
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 3: Vandy upsets Bama last year, Now they got to go

543
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Speaker 3: to Alabama. They're not sneaking up on anybody. Do you

544
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Speaker 3: think Vandy has a shot to go in and win

545
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Speaker 3: that game, whereas Alabama kind of righted the ship. They

546
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 3: got to win over Georgia. I know Pavia has talked

547
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 3: a lot in the offseason about this game. You give

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Speaker 3: Vandy a fighting chance. For as long as I live,

549
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Speaker 3: I'll never pick Vanderbilt to go into Tuscaloosa and beat

550
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Speaker 3: the Crimson time.

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Speaker 2: All Right, that's a good note.

552
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Speaker 3: They're not sneaking up on anybody. Yeah, anymore, They're certainly

553
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 3: not sneaking up on Alabama this year. Bama gonna get

554
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Speaker 3: they lick back. Boise was a top twenty five team

555
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Speaker 3: to start the year. They're three and one. They go

556
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Speaker 3: to Notre Dame and they're gonna get twenty and a

557
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Speaker 3: half points. I think that is a crazy large spread,

558
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 3: just insane. You say something about winschfuler in might be

559
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 3: our cheesy spread of the week. Uh the you Miami

560
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 3: goes to Florida State. Florida State a little fraudulent after

561
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Speaker 3: that lost to Virginia And is Miami as good as

562
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Speaker 3: people think?

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 2: And no?

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Speaker 5: Okay on both of those questions.

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Speaker 3: Okay, first game back to Florida State for Kirk kurb Street,

567
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Speaker 3: oh after they verbally abused him and his family after

568
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 3: college football playoff.

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Speaker 2: I remember that. Yeah, that'll be one to watch for.

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Speaker 5: I hope Peter poops on their field.

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Speaker 3: Wow, you're you're calling for a Peter poop yep man,

572
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 3: that's an eighth anniversary Peter, of course being his dogs. Yes,

573
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Speaker 3: Peter Herbstreek the pooper. Uh, Thursday night football tonight, Austin.

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Speaker 3: What do you think about the Rams and Niners? No

575
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 3: Brock Party because he's had another setback with turf toe. Yeah,

576
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 3: something to think about. Party, tried to play through it,

577
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: got aggravated again. Turf toe stinks eight and a half.

578
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 3: That seem a lot. Yeah, as far as I know,

579
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 3: I think four starters for San Francisco are gone this week.

580
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 3: Not to mention Nick Bose is already hurt and George

581
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 3: Kittle's already hurt. So I'll say every single year, it's

582
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 3: the same story with the forty nine ers, I'll say

583
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 3: the fifteen dudes hurt. I enjoy the ability in a

584
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 3: standalone game to appreciate the Rams. Think when they get

585
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 3: on a Sunday, you got everything going on, you're watching games,

586
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 3: the ability to watch them in a standalone environment. You

587
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 3: mentioned earlier in the week the greatness of Pooka and

588
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 3: Akua right now and how dominant he is, but it's

589
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 3: just the way the offense operates and how everything pieces together.

590
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 3: Should be a good Thursday night game. Outside of that,

591
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 3: Dolphins Panthers, Uh, I'm just gonna be a lot of

592
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 3: forty nine er fans there tonight, Yeah, even though they're

593
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 3: they're banged up. Lions Bengals, of course? What about the

594
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 3: Vikings and the Browns. I just got off the notification

595
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Speaker 3: from NFL that all the game picks have been made

596
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Speaker 3: for the weekend. Do you want to hear some of

597
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 3: the scores that people are predicting for Bengals line?

598
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: Please please?

599
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 3: Thirty five seventeen okay, Lions not a cover, Not the Bengals, okay,

600
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Speaker 3: twenty eight to twenty thirty five, sixteen thirty four to seventeen,

601
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 3: thirty one to twenty huh So nobody thinks the Bengals

602
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 3: keep it close?

603
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 7: Man?

604
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 3: Bengals money line plus four ten? Wow, it's good value there, right? Nope,

605
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 3: No waste of money. Waste of money? What Yeah, I'm

606
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 3: not buying it. I'm not believing in it. Well, dude,

607
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 3: a couple of these other ones that I'm not sure

608
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 3: if I'm buying or not. What are the Browns doing

609
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 3: London against the Vikings. Good luck, Dylan Gabriel, here's Brian Flores. Yep,

610
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Speaker 3: that's what I thought of immediately. Will Shadoor Sanders actually

611
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: speak before then? Actually we have some Shadoor Sanders audio here.

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Speaker 3: Take a listen. Okay, great point, That is a great point.

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00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 3: You know what's interesting is there was that report that

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Speaker 3: he like blocked wanting to go to the Baltimore Ravens

615
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 3: to be Lamar's backup. Yep, and now Lamar's doubtful this week,

616
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Speaker 3: and he could have been starting instead. He's third string

617
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 3: in Cleveland. You reap what you sew, young man.

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Speaker 5: Funny how life works.

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Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel kind of took a shot at him too, Like,

620
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Speaker 3: if you sit around waiting for your chance at all

621
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Speaker 3: it all the time, you may never get it. Uh,

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Speaker 3: Cult Raiders, Giants, Saints, Well, Cowboys, Jets, why'd you say

623
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Speaker 3: it like that? I just don't think Jackson Dart baby

624
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 3: all right, the Dart era. I just those teams are

625
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 3: combined one for seven. So I hesitant. I think the

626
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,959
Speaker 3: Eagles dominate the Broncos on Sunday. What about Texans Ravens? Well,

627
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: hold on aj Brown, he's upset, He's not getting the rock.

628
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Speaker 3: This sounds like one of those he gets a rock

629
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Speaker 3: trouble in ice. No, I think he gets a rock

630
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 3: about eleven times. I don't think he's gonna get it

631
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Speaker 3: at all. Patrick Schertan still there.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, he continues on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's sports station.

633
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Speaker 1: It's time for since he three sixty quick hits.

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Speaker 5: On ESPN looking in the building, was looking for mo Gentlemen,

635
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Speaker 5: Happy anniversary. Congratulations as well, you too, Thank you so

636
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Speaker 5: much all you've done. I've done absolutely nothing, but you

637
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 5: think of all the people who have worked on this show.

638
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 5: You know it started as a James Rapeaen vehicle. Yeah,

639
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 5: you guys, I thought first of Jimmy Sandy exactly. That's

640
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 5: exactly who I thought of.

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00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 7: Yep.

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Speaker 5: So congratulations to all parties involved.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

644
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 5: Literally five of us have ever worked on this.

645
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 2: Crazy literally crazy.

646
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 3: And I thought, as a gift, yeah, we could sit

647
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: down tonight and see Andrew Rabbit pitch in the postseason. Boy,

648
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 3: that would be nice. Or maybe Chase Burns and some

649
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,719
Speaker 3: meaningful innings. That would be nice. What about Emilio Pagan?

650
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 5: That would be nice because the only pitches when the

651
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 5: Reds are winning crazy.

652
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 3: Nicolodola just got roughed up in his outing yesterday. Didn't

653
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: want to bring him back out there.

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00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 5: He was awful, and those fourteen pitches just got crushed

655
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 5: just throwing meat balls. I guess they were. He was

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Speaker 5: tipping his pitches too.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy to think we spent all season talking about

658
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Speaker 3: if they just find a way in their pitching, yeah,

659
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 3: we'll give them every chance. And most of those guys

660
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 3: didn't even have a chance to give them a chance.

661
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 5: So I put this on social media last night. The

662
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 5: series took a nose dive when Hunter Green threw his

663
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 5: fourth pitch. Because if they were going to win this series,

664
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 5: it wasn't going to be outscore of the Dodgers. It

665
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 5: was going to be when close, low scoring games. Two

666
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 5: things had to happen. Neither did one. The starting pitching

667
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 5: was going to have to be x to. They were

668
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 5: gonna have to play clean in the field, and god knows,

669
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 5: they didn't do that. But something we did all season long,

670
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 5: which was, you know they would lose a tough game,

671
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 5: including on opening Day, they would lose a tough game,

672
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 5: you would go like, man, I hope we don't go

673
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 5: back and look at that one. Well, we didn't in

674
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,479
Speaker 5: relation to them making the postseason. But because of all

675
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 5: those losses, Game one sixty two mattered, and instead of

676
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 5: doing what the Milwaukee Brewers did, or instead of doing

677
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 5: what the Philadelphia Phillies did, they had to play and

678
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 5: so they had to use bullets. I cannot blame Terry

679
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 5: Francona for using Nicko Loodolo on Sunday. I could blame

680
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 5: the team for making Sunday matter because my thought on

681
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 5: Sunday when they put Lodolo in was crap. Now if

682
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 5: they do get in, he can't pitch Wednesday. It might

683
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 5: not have made a difference. My guess is it wouldn't have.

684
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 5: But there's a reverberation. So the goal next year is

685
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 5: to how about this play one sixty two with a

686
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 5: bunch of reserves. Have it not met, have a lead,

687
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 5: you've clinched the division?

688
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 7: Yeah.

689
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 5: A week and a half prior sell tickets to a

690
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 5: scrimmage Celtic, we should be watching a scrimmage one one

691
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 5: year from today at GABP.

692
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 7: So like that.

693
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 5: That is to me, and my big takeaway is because

694
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,479
Speaker 5: this team treaded water all season long in a year

695
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 5: where the expectation was to make the playoffs. It came

696
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 5: back to bite them in the postseason.

697
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 3: It's hard not to have what ifs. What if south

698
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 3: Stewart was caught up earlier? Yeah, what if south Stewart,

699
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 3: who I saw last night battle, yes at the dish.

700
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 3: What if that south Stewart played consistently down the stretch?

701
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 5: Uh huh?

702
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 3: What if he played in meaningful games for this team

703
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: instead of just sparingly. What if Will Benson got opportunities

704
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 3: and maybe last night after a really good at bat

705
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 3: to draw a walk, maybe get to actually finish out

706
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: in at bat instead of being taken out.

707
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 5: I don't think in the middle of it. I don't think

708
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 5: I've ever seen both both ends of it taken out

709
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 5: mid at bat. I've seen the picture taken out mid

710
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 5: at bat. I've seen the hit or replace mid at bat.

711
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 5: I've not seen that.

712
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 3: Benson gets charged with the strikeout and jehar comes on

713
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 3: and has the impossible to Yeah, seeing a pitch on. Yes,

714
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 3: it's just hard on all round. What do you think

715
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 3: that Will Benson exit meeting is like today?

716
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 5: Will It's been nice? Yeah, please run out of here.

717
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 5: I don't know, guys, Here's what happens in sports. This

718
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 5: is the beauty. We turn the page very quickly. Yeah,

719
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 5: but number one, our attention spans are shorter than they've

720
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 5: ever been too. That's the beauty of sports, most of us.

721
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 5: I just turned to the next so today and Abu Dhabi.

722
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 5: I'm not sure you guys were following the New York

723
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 5: Knicks OH fifteen point exhibition victory over the Philadelphia seventy

724
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 5: six ers. Cincinnati's own Deduce McBride. You got the music

725
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 5: ready five and seven from the field. The tone was

726
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 5: set in Abu Dhabi.

727
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 2: Nice.

728
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 3: A lot of people think, you know you mentioned Cincinnati's

729
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: own Miles McBride. Kyle schwarber' is a Cincinnati guy and

730
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 3: went to Middletown. People are already clamoring that they're gonna

731
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 3: go get Kyle Schwarber this offseason.

732
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 2: Can we just put that to Bete officially?

733
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 5: Probably?

734
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: But why should we? Well, but we know how this goes.

735
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 5: But like that's the problem. Yeah, that's the problem. The

736
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 5: off season isn't twenty four hours old, and already it

737
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 5: feels like, nah, you get patted on the head instead

738
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 5: it should be screw it, man, go get Kyle Schwarber.

739
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, a bat you.

740
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 5: Think, huh so okay, not Kyle Schwarber, not Pete A

741
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 5: Lonzo than who. Now I know some are going to say,

742
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 5: well Sal Stewart man, Sala Stewart looks like a dude,

743
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 5: but like he's not established, Like I want an established slugger.

744
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 5: The problem is, and this is an off season where

745
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 5: the Reds have an opportunity to change it. By the way,

746
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 5: there's not a lot of money locked into next year's team, right,

747
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 5: There's some guys who are arbitration eligible, but like the

748
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 5: guaranteed salaries are key, Brian Hayes, Hunter Green and what else?

749
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 7: You got?

750
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 5: Travino a good player, right, good? Good the one bee catcher.

751
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 7: Right.

752
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 5: So the problem is we're so condition to going as

753
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 5: we say it with the Bengals, that's just not what

754
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 5: they do. Why can't it be?

755
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: You know?

756
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 5: By the way, I was the guy and there were

757
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 5: others who last off season were like, wait a minute,

758
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 5: the Mets aren't gonna sign pe Alonzo long term, go

759
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 5: sign him for a year? Oh mo, ce S do

760
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 5: you do you have Cees? Do you have him?

761
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 9: Mo?

762
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 5: They don't mean and I'm like, all right, so who

763
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 5: else is going to hit thirty five for you? Oh mo,

764
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 5: we got rees high honest, Jacob heard of me? Dah

765
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 5: they could have, so like that's the thing we est

766
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 5: so all right? Fine, Not Kyle Schwimmer, Not not Pete Alonzo?

767
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 2: Who got spender steel? Be healthy?

768
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 5: Who is hitting thirty? Just make it thirty? Who's hitting

769
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 5: thirty home runs next year? Sal Stewart?

770
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 7: Maybe the Earl?

771
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 5: Are you betting on that? By the way, you're also

772
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 5: allowed to have check this out. Two guys who hit

773
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:03,959
Speaker 5: thirty home runs?

774
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: I about that? Wait?

775
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:04,959
Speaker 7: Really?

776
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 2: Yeah? What else you got coming up on the show today?

777
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 5: We're going to spend time on that.

778
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 2: Okay.

779
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 5: I'm going to go back to a night in December

780
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 5: twenty twenty. Wow, when Zach Taylor won me over. Okay,

781
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 5: we're going to do that powerful. Yeah, it's going to

782
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 5: be exciting. Jeff Carr is going to be on the show,

783
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 5: Jay Morrison, should the risk? Should the Bengals sign Jed Rars' cousin,

784
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 5: Derek Carr?

785
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 2: Sure?

786
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 5: Jed Rendell?

787
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 3: Is Lee going to join you today and then join

788
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 3: us on Sunday? Lee is not going to join us

789
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 3: on Sunday, Okay, but he's going to join me today. Okay,

790
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 3: I wanted to clear this late for Sunday, you and

791
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: I at the Holy Grail. Yeah, from noon to two thirty.

792
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: Would be nice if we're talking about a big uc

793
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: win as well on Sunday.

794
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 5: Gonna be a fun game on Saturday. Good atmosphere, good

795
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 5: team coming in. Like so okay, I think Saturday made

796
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 5: people perk up right, Okay, especially because Bengals stink me.

797
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 5: Take a look at this. Let's see, let's watch this closer.

798
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 5: So now the people's attention. Can you prove that that

799
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 5: wasn't an outlier? Like if you win this one man game.

800
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 3: On uc F Oklahoma State, uh huh, Baylor comes in,

801
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 3: you can before and no going into Baylor.

802
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is a huge.

803
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 5: This is a big opportunity for this team. And Shan

804
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 5: and I are going to talk about Saturday like folks

805
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 5: have wondered, like are they good? I think the conversation

806
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 5: has gone from who are these guys? To are they good?

807
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 5: That's a good step. Saturday will tell us that the

808
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 5: answer is yes. Yeah, a lot to build up bred

809
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 5: sours be solid with you today.

810
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 2: Who's good?

811
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, very well spoken, he's he got to root for

812
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 3: n I own money must be good because that's an

813
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 3: expensive tab. If he's taken every lineman the ninnner's the

814
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 3: game to Jeff Rubies after wins, is.

815
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 5: That what you were doing?

816
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 3: I brought him donuts, brought him over Mom and Dan's

817
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 3: house for burgers nights, Friday nights, Thursday nights.

818
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 5: Many years ago, we had a boss who took the

819
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 5: staff of thirteen sixty Homer oh to Jeff Rubies.

820
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: Nice took us there. That's nice.

821
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 5: I didn't say he paid for the dinner. Oh, you

822
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 5: talk about the sticker shock. Oh, when you're like, I

823
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 5: don't know what I twenty seven years old, that's different. Hey,

824
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 5: we're going to Rubies. That's kind of nice. And then

825
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 5: suddenly like the guy starts passing out all that and

826
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 5: I'm like, we're gonna pay, We gonna pay for all

827
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 5: of these.

828
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

829
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 3: A few years ago during COVID kind of that boss,

830
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 3: me and the other producers were given gift cards to

831
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 3: Jeff Rubies. Were you, Yeah, one hundred dollars gift cards.

832
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 5: There's nothing on them. Has anybody commemorated you guys on

833
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 5: the anniversary of your show people that work here?

834
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

835
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 5: No, no, wait till you hit milestone, I get paid.

836
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 5: Wait till you hit milestones, like twenty twenty five years. Yeah,

837
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 5: then they really roll out the red carpet. They pull

838
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 5: out all the stuffs to congratulate.

839
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 3: Well, they threw everything out of us last year for

840
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 3: arm Tony and mol football show. So that's alway show.

841
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 5: I saw John dumb on Facebook at Channel twelve. They

842
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 5: gave him like it looks like you drink wine out

843
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 5: of it, I guess, or smoked weed out of Canter

844
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 5: gave him this big thing for twenty years at Channel twelve. Wow,

845
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 5: John Gum, John Gum? What's his middle name? Can I

846
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 5: have a pizza?

847
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 7: There?

848
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 5: You go low? That's why we get eight years right there?

849
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 7: Eight years?

850
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I was gonna say, chewing. We do have

851
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 5: a nice piece of paper commemorating in ten years. Yep.

852
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 5: I thought you guys got bottles of bourbon for that.

853
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 2: We did get one.

854
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 5: One person brought us bottles of.

855
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did get one, but you take eight years.

856
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 5: My dad worked for ten years at an area hell

857
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 5: club and they sent him to Hawaii. Huh, that's pretty cool.

858
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 5: We have a list of things I just like at

859
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 5: this point, not even one take it to Jeff Ruby.

860
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 5: It is like twenty years ago. I don't even know why.

861
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 5: You gotta take it to Jeff Ruby.

862
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 7: Pay.

863
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 2: That's incredible how the times have changed.

864
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 3: My lagger is next ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

865
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Speaker 3: Have a great rest of your Thursday.

866
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: So you see KYS since a