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Speaker 1: They say, the hardest thing in sports isn't winning a title.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to repeat seasons.

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Speaker 1: It's winning it again.

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Speaker 3: This year is not trying to win a championship, They're

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Speaker 1: It's October baseball for your world champion in La Dodger.

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Speaker 4: The twenty twenty five Dodgers are the National Leagues Western

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Speaker 4: Division champions.

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Speaker 1: And you know what that means.

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Speaker 1: This is Saxon Kates in the Morning with Tim Kates

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Speaker 1: and former world champion Dodger Steve Sacks.

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Speaker 5: Steve Sacks, Tim Kates.

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Speaker 1: Tim Kates and World champion Dodger Steve Sacks.

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Speaker 5: It's funny we breakfast and little coffee always tastes better

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Speaker 5: the morning after a Dodger win. Saxon Kates in the

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Speaker 5: Am Here on M five to seventy LA Sports, Tim

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Speaker 5: Kats along with two times World Series Champ Rookie of

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Speaker 5: the Year number three that everybody loves, no One and

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Speaker 5: only Steve Sacks. Here the day after the Dodgers escape

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Speaker 5: from Philadelphia with a four to three win over the

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Speaker 5: Phillies to take a two to zero series lead in

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Speaker 5: this best of five NLDS. Game three coming up tomorrow

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Speaker 5: night at Dodgers Stadium as the series comes to LA

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Speaker 5: for the very first time, and Yoshinobu Yamamoto will be

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Speaker 5: on the mound for the Dodgers and what is a

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Speaker 5: closeout game and a possibility to move on to the NLCS.

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Speaker 5: So we're gonna go around baseball, coming up a little

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Speaker 5: bit later on Steve, because there's a lot of great

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Speaker 5: series happening. The American League DS Series will resume today

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Speaker 5: in New York and in Detroit you got the Brewers

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Speaker 5: who are absolutely on fire taking on the Cubs. That

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Speaker 5: series goes back to Chicago tomorrow with the Brewers up

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Speaker 5: two games to so we'll get into that. But the

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Speaker 5: play everybody is talking about Steve Sachs is the play

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Speaker 5: that happened last night in the ninth inning.

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Speaker 6: Here.

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Speaker 5: It was with Steven Nelson and Rick Monday on the call.

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Speaker 7: If you're Stott of the Dodger defense, this is an

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Speaker 7: interesting dance. He's trying to get Costianos to third in

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Speaker 7: order to.

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Speaker 4: See bunch the ball because they're crashing in both Munsi

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Speaker 4: a third I means the Bets is going over to

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Speaker 4: third from a short stop position.

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Speaker 7: Bessie A kicks and fire Stott gets the bunt down

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Speaker 7: to third, picked up by Munsie.

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Speaker 5: He goes to third and Costianos is gonna be out.

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Speaker 5: They execute the play to perfection Rick.

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Speaker 4: Mundabsolute gutsy play by Max Munsey. He had his body

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Speaker 4: in position to begin with. I think the Phillies are

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Speaker 4: gonna challenge this, have really nothing to lose to challenge him,

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Speaker 4: and Mookie Betts stood his ground because vents. He got

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Speaker 4: knocked over on that tag, but for months he the

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Speaker 4: good throw to Bets. Bets got there in time, and

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Speaker 4: what an athletic catching tag by Mookie Bets. Terrific play

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Speaker 4: on the fundamentals of the game.

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Speaker 5: In the ninth in the Dodgers last night, executing the

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Speaker 5: wheel play to perfection to get the runner out a

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Speaker 5: third on which proved to be a huge play because

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Speaker 5: the next batter Harrison Baders single to left and that

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Speaker 5: would have tied the game at four. Instead, the Dodgers

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Speaker 5: prevail with a four to three win. Sax seat. The

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Speaker 5: wheel play You've been around baseball your entire life. Something

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Speaker 5: you start as a kid, learning in high school and

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Speaker 5: college and throughout the pros. You work on it. Eventually

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Speaker 5: you may never see it. But last night we saw

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Speaker 5: the wheel play. What exactly is the wheel play? Even

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Speaker 5: Michelle here was like, what's this wheel play? We keep

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Speaker 5: talking about what is this?

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Speaker 2: Well, the wheel play is something that you work on

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Speaker 2: in spring training a lot, okay, and this play is

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Speaker 2: designed to get that runner at third base. It's a

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Speaker 2: it's a risky play. It can it can be catastrophic

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Speaker 2: if it's not run correctly.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 2: The safe play is to, you know, let them, let

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Speaker 2: designed to get that guy out at third base. You're guaranteeing,

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Speaker 2: You're not guaranteeing, but you're guessing that he's going to

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Speaker 2: So the hitter is going to bunt the ball to

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Speaker 2: walk into third base, so the defense has a little

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Speaker 2: of times what they'll do is they'll dive back into

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Speaker 2: you're trying to get him to think that you might

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Speaker 2: have a pickoff play on. As soon as he has

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Speaker 2: you know that lean towards second base, or he goes

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Speaker 2: back towards second base, the shortstop busts his tail to

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Speaker 2: to get the bunt, and soon as he sees the

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Speaker 2: The ball is bunted, the runner takes off because he's

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Speaker 2: he feels the ball in perfect perfect standing, throws the

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Speaker 2: ball to third with Mookie covering, and the runner is

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Speaker 2: out and everything was done to perfection. And that is

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Speaker 2: the wheel play.

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Speaker 5: And it all starts with Mookie getting a jump on

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Speaker 5: the runner and he did costly, didn't get a great

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Speaker 5: secondary played it more safe than anything. Mooki beats him

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Speaker 5: to the bag, and as you mentioned, it has to

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Speaker 5: work to execution perfectly, and it did with filling the bunt,

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Speaker 5: turning and throwing a strike. Max Munsey to Mookie bets

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Speaker 5: that throw is crystal. Yeah, if it's off any of

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Speaker 5: backhand side, if he throws it two feet inside. It's

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Speaker 5: not a clean throw. Costianos beats Mookie Bets to the

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Speaker 5: perfect lead throw to Bets, who stays in like a

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Speaker 5: takes the hit, puts the tag on Costiano's and that

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Speaker 5: out was huge. And here we are talking about the

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Speaker 5: wheel play the morning after, executed perfectly.

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Speaker 2: Now here's another thing about that wheel play too, is

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Speaker 2: is Mooki has to sell it. He has to sell

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Speaker 2: it to Costeianos to stay close to second base either

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Speaker 2: dive back in. That's probably they scratch the play if

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Speaker 2: you're Philly. If he's just taking a step back towards

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Speaker 2: second base, and then Mookie shoots down to third. He's

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Speaker 2: got a massive jump on Costiano's number one, number two.

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Speaker 2: He's a perfect guy to do it on because Costianos

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Speaker 2: doesn't run well and so Mookie can fly and all

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Speaker 2: those things being considered, I mean months he was on

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Speaker 2: the bunt like a cat, and that's important too. You

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Speaker 2: don't want to have it a good bunt where it

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Speaker 2: stays on the ground. You want it to bounce. And

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Speaker 2: that's what happened. You know, Munsey was on the bunt.

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Speaker 2: He was in a position to round the ball, so

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Speaker 2: all you had to do is just pivot and throw

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Speaker 2: it to the third base. It was masterfully done. And

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Speaker 2: that's why you work on it for hours in spring training.

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Speaker 5: What are you taught to do on the Philly side though?

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Speaker 5: If you see Monsy breaking in, he's charging in for

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Speaker 5: the bunt, and let's say Mookie Bets didn't time it

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Speaker 5: out good enough and left early, and the third base

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Speaker 5: coach and the runner and the hitter all see Mooki

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Speaker 5: going towards third Is the bunt called off? What do

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Speaker 5: you do in that situation? Why is the timing so important?

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Speaker 2: Well, it is important because you have to sell it

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Speaker 2: two people. He has to deal with Mooky on his

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Speaker 2: left side making noise and and you know, hitting his

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Speaker 2: glove and whatnot. He's gonna hear Mooky over there. So

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Speaker 2: he doesn't want to get picked off. That's the main

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Speaker 2: thing is he can't get picked off. And then and

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Speaker 2: then once he does that, Mooki takes off towards third base.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's got to deal with the second basement

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Speaker 2: possibly coming back for a pickoff, So he can't he

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Speaker 2: can't venture too far off of there and get a

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Speaker 2: secondary lead. That's too big because if the ball's caught

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Speaker 2: the fact that the Dodgers could run a play to

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Speaker 2: pick him off as well. So he doesn't know exactly

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Speaker 2: what's going on. But when when Mooki takes off the

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Speaker 2: third base and the pitcher delivers a ball and it's bunted,

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Speaker 2: now he has to make a decision do I go

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Speaker 2: ahead and try it? And most guys do. That's why

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Speaker 2: they bunt the ball down to get that guy with

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Speaker 2: a third base and you know it blew up on

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Speaker 2: the Phillies. It was perfectly run by the Dodgers.

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Speaker 5: Dodgers execute the wheel play in the ninth inning, getting

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Speaker 5: the lead runner at third base and what was potentially

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Speaker 5: half of the ninth inning. Well executed defensive play by

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Speaker 5: the Dodgers. Credit all around to Mookie bet to Max Munsey.

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Speaker 5: Let's hear from Max Munsey postgame on that play and

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Speaker 5: the Dodger will win.

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Speaker 9: Max, Can you just take us through that wheel play

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Speaker 9: in the ninth inning, such a huge out to get

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Speaker 9: Castianos out at third base.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, wheel play is not something that we

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Speaker 10: traditionally do.

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Speaker 11: But as soon as as soon as we got in

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Speaker 11: a situation, me moved and Tommy immediately started talking about, Hey,

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Speaker 11: we gotta we gotta try something different here.

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Speaker 10: We can't just play standard bump play.

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Speaker 11: And when when TT came out made the pitching change,

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Speaker 11: we talked to him about it and he was all

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Speaker 11: on on board, and yeah.

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Speaker 10: I'm gonna credit Mook. It was his idea. We got

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Speaker 10: to go.

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Speaker 11: You know, he's saying, we gotta go wheel player, we

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Speaker 11: gotta go wheel play, And so we talked.

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Speaker 10: About how we're going to do it, and uh, you

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Speaker 10: know we we executed to profection.

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Speaker 9: How big could you feel the momentum change getting that

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Speaker 9: out at third base?

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Speaker 10: That's huge? You know, you get that at the guy

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Speaker 11: Get it out there, and you know it's just that

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Speaker 11: that that changes everything at that ending.

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Speaker 9: This was somewhat of a desperation game for them. You

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Speaker 9: knew they weren't just gonna go away quietly. You guys

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Speaker 10: You've heard me say it all year long. We're not

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Speaker 12: We're gonna be like willing and sort of you wanted

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's just it's just a smart play.

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Speaker 11: It's just a really smart baseball play, and you know,

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Speaker 11: And it's honestly really impressive, and it's just it's awesome

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Speaker 10: What's going through your mind when you're measuring the depth

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Speaker 11: Oh again, That's what's funny is we don't really even

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Speaker 10: You know, it's not with with a pitcher's not hitting anymore.

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Speaker 10: Few times where you're one hundred per cent sure.

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Speaker 10: Guys, what a heck of a game you describe it?

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Speaker 2: That was awesome.

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Speaker 10: You know, obviously we would have liked to have not

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Speaker 11: The end, but yeah, it was just an awesome game

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Speaker 5: That's interesting, Steve. I mean they don't work on it

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Speaker 5: The fact that in October muscle memories like, ha, let's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we ran that play a lot, and we

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Speaker 5: And to hear Max Munsey credit Mookie Betts. I mean

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Speaker 5: Freddie Freeman has saved his tail and other Dodger infielders

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Speaker 5: it last night with Tommy Edmond, but Mookie Betts developing

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Speaker 5: maturing as a shortstop, Steve. It's pretty impressive to see

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Speaker 5: bill league's already approven veteran to want to be a

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Speaker 5: I don't like this experiment. I think this is going

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Speaker 5: with it now. I think Mookie has developed and worked

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Speaker 2: Oh he's he's an amazing shortstop. And how many gold

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Speaker 2: him up five to six? You know, he's he's an

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Speaker 2: amazing all around player. If there's one guy that you

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Speaker 10: On the team.

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Speaker 2: He can do anything. And you see him at shortstop

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Speaker 2: and I was watching him, you know, because I don't

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Speaker 2: easy out there. He looks great. He's got great footwork,

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Speaker 2: It boggles of mind. Really, I don't know anybody else

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Speaker 5: No, I'm watching the overhead shot on MLB Network and

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Speaker 5: lot about Mookie Bets and staying there. In fact, let's

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Speaker 5: Mookie Bets on the receiving end of the wheel play.

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Speaker 9: Mookie, obviously the play in the ninth inning was huge

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Speaker 13: It's just another learned behavior. I got to give that

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Speaker 5: We think we did.

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Speaker 13: We did it earlier in the year in Anaheim, and

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Speaker 9: Does that just showed the growth that you've had at

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I guess you know.

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Speaker 13: I don't know if it was very comfortable, but somebody's

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Speaker 2: I'm a wheel play.

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Speaker 6: The shortstop typically isn't as close to second as your positioned.

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Speaker 10: It looked like you just dead sprinted toward third base. Uh,

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Speaker 13: I don't know, just God blessed me with some athleticism

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Speaker 3: You're talking the other day about like you just don't

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Like I said, NIGGI told me, and all you

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Speaker 5: All right, there's Mookie Betts. How about that, Steve crediting

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Speaker 2: So it's uh, it's a great play. Again, can be risky,

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Speaker 2: but they ran it perfectly.

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Speaker 5: All those days in the backfields of euro Beach and

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Speaker 5: your career as a coach as well in the big leagues.

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Speaker 5: Did you ever think we'd be sitting here talking about

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Speaker 5: the wheel play in a ninth inning of a postseason game.

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Speaker 5: And they getting this much attention and talked about this much.

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Speaker 2: I don't know when the wheel player's ever gotten this

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Speaker 2: much attempt, but when when you put it up like this,

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Speaker 2: and it really does save the day, and the timing

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Speaker 2: of it and all that mixed together really does accentuate

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Speaker 2: the importance of this play. And if you run it correctly,

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Speaker 2: it can be a difference maker, and it certainly was.

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Speaker 5: I love it. Here we are in twenty twenty five

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Speaker 5: and this wheel play is being broken down on MLB network.

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Speaker 5: Steve like the Subpruder film and Jade, I mean it

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Speaker 5: is frame by frame? Where's Mookie's feet? How fast did

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Speaker 5: he get to third? What's the miles per hour to

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Speaker 5: get there? How quick was that throw from Max Munzi?

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Speaker 5: Where was the location of that throw? How did he

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Speaker 5: take the tag? And they hit from Castano's I mean

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Speaker 5: it is by the second. It is unbelievable. Dodgers take

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Speaker 5: the win and take it two to oh series lead,

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Speaker 5: We'll come back. I got a line open.

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Speaker 1: How is that?

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Speaker 5: Dodger fans big win last night? Everybody wants to criticize

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Speaker 5: Dave Roberts. Blake tried and took a lot of incoming

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Speaker 5: last night. Rokie Susaki's your new love and the Dodgers

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Speaker 5: have a U series leading this best of five nlds.

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Speaker 5: Your phone calls coming up. Thanks for being with us

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Speaker 5: on this Tuesday morning here in Los Angeles. Steve Sacks,

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Speaker 5: Tim Kates and you on AMI seventy LA Sports, Saxon

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Speaker 5: Kates and am It's am FI seventy LA Sports. You're

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Speaker 5: a home of the Dodgers. Live in local as it

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Speaker 5: should be here in southern California, especially during the Dodgers

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Speaker 5: postseason run. We're doing it nine years in a row now.

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Speaker 5: Steve Sacks, Tim Kate's with you here oll October long.

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Speaker 5: It's funny. I'm sitting here text with my buddy Tom,

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Speaker 5: who grew up with, played high school baseball with, and

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Speaker 5: he his coach for a long time, and we're laughing. Saxy.

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Speaker 5: The fact that the wheel play is being talked about

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Speaker 5: as much as it is. It's one of those things

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Speaker 5: when we were coaching together. You know, you practice and

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Speaker 5: it's just kind of redundant, and it's like, all right,

479
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Speaker 5: going through the motions and it's like, hey, coach, we're

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Speaker 5: never gonna use this. Yeah, that's never gonna work. The

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Speaker 5: timing play. I mean, it's a bang bang play at third.

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Speaker 5: Everything's got to work out perfectly, and here we are

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Speaker 5: Dodgers executing it to perfection. And it turned out to

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Speaker 5: be a huge play in that ninth inning for the Dodgers,

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Speaker 5: but one of several plays in that ninth inning. Steve,

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Speaker 5: I mean Blake trying and struggle to get the three

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Speaker 5: batters that he faced. All right, Alex Vessi comes in

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Speaker 5: and the first batter he faces is that we'll play

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Speaker 5: Bunnett tim but then he gives up a single. People

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Speaker 5: keep forgetting about that. He gives up a single, so

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Speaker 5: runners on first and second. Another fielder's choice puts runners

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Speaker 5: on the corners with two outs when they decide to

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Speaker 5: go to Roki Sasaki and he gets the final out,

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Speaker 5: but not before a one hop throw from Tommy Edmond

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Speaker 5: over to Freddie Freeman, who, like a goaltender and hockey,

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Speaker 5: was just spread out and makes a dig at first

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Speaker 5: and I just I laughed, and then I said it

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Speaker 5: on the postgame show last night, Steve I said, it

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Speaker 5: is a flat out crime and a shame that this

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Speaker 5: guy has one goal glove and that came in Atlanta

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Speaker 5: with the braves. Freddie Freeman has saved the behinds of

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Speaker 5: so many Dodger infielders last year, this year, two years ago,

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Speaker 5: three years ago, regular season, postseason, World Series, you name it.

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Speaker 5: He has saved so many throws from those guys that

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Speaker 5: this guy has no gold gloves in the Dodger uniform

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Speaker 5: to show for. It is a flat out crime.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you on a hundred percent. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's it kind of goes unnoticed. It's almost like, well,

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Speaker 2: you're supposed to do that, And Freddie talks about it

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Speaker 2: like that too. You know, these guys make good plays

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Speaker 2: and at least I can do is pick the ball

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Speaker 2: and what's in the dirt. And you know, it makes

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Speaker 2: a ton of difference when you got guys over there

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Speaker 2: that can pick it. You know, I went through that

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Speaker 2: whole mess in eighty three for a couple of months

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Speaker 2: and it was bad. And you know when I went

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Speaker 2: to when I went to the Yankees, I led the

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Speaker 2: league in fielding at the second base and guess who

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Speaker 2: was my first baseman, Don Mattingly, and that guy caught

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Speaker 2: everything you threw over there, and it gave us a

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Speaker 2: lot of confidence I had. My confidence was sky high.

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Speaker 2: When I went to New York because I had a

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Speaker 2: guy over there that could catch anything, and so in turn,

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Speaker 2: you relax, your confidence get goes up, and you know

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Speaker 2: everything's much better. So you know, you got a guy

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Speaker 2: like Freddie over there at first base. He's amazing, and

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Speaker 2: I agree he should win more gold gloves and than

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Speaker 2: just one.

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Speaker 5: We got a full phone line, so we're gonna get

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Speaker 5: to your phone calls in just a second. But that

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Speaker 5: throw from Tommy Yema, I just want wanted to get

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Speaker 5: your breakdown of it in the ninth and he's sasaki,

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Speaker 5: he just liked it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he you know it's happens every

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Speaker 2: now and again.

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Speaker 5: Is it the moment?

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 5: My gosh, the balls at me. I've got it. I

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Speaker 5: got to make this throw and all of a sudden

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Speaker 5: it just gets to you now. And it felt like

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Speaker 5: he shot put it a little bit, if you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean. It just it just felt in the moment.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't think it was. I think he

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Speaker 2: just you know, it does happen periodically. Sure, I don't

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Speaker 2: think the moment did it for him. Tommy Edvard's been

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Speaker 2: around a lot, and you know he's he's in his

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Speaker 2: you know, he's in his third he's got a lot

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Speaker 2: of good experience. I don't think that happened. He doesn't

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Speaker 2: have an issue with throwing or anything.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, if it was me in eighty three and the

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Speaker 2: first part of the year, I'd say, yeah, it was

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Speaker 2: probably a no confidence type of a throw over there.

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Speaker 2: But no, I don't think Tommy Edmans got that. I

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Speaker 2: think he just just spiked it.

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Speaker 5: Well, it was a great pick by Freddie Freeman. I

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Speaker 5: love the picture that afterwards is making the rounds on

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Speaker 5: on social media of him, you know, sprawled out, you know,

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Speaker 5: just making the pick, glove up in the air and

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Speaker 5: got a smile on his face after doing it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great.

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Speaker 5: No, I love that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like it almost looks like, you know, hey,

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Speaker 2: I got away with something over here, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and again it just goes It's like you said,

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Speaker 5: it's just a whole hum Oh, Freddie Freeman making another grab.

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Speaker 5: There's a Twitter account and I know you don't see

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Speaker 5: this because it's on social media, but it's a great account.

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Speaker 5: It's called art but making a sports and it's somebody

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Speaker 5: who goes and gets like these great pieces of art

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Speaker 5: that are are historic and you know, thousands of years old,

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Speaker 5: and there's a picture of Freddie Freeman. I'm gonna send

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Speaker 5: it to you. Freddie Freeman on his knees making the

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Speaker 5: pick at first, and he finds an old painting from

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Speaker 5: like thousands of years ago of somebody making this similar

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Speaker 5: move and puts his side by side. It's very very clever,

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Speaker 5: very clever. It's actually from eighteen thirty four by Eugene Delacrow,

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Speaker 5: the Prisoner of Chillan, in a picture of Freddie Freeman

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Speaker 5: right next to it.

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Speaker 2: So I didn't know that I could pick it in

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Speaker 2: eighteen thirty four. He could pick it like a witch.

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Speaker 5: He's just a glove over there, just making picks. So

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Speaker 5: let's go out to the Phodes. Thanks for being patient.

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Speaker 5: Let's go out of Ish and Riverside is on Saxon,

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Speaker 5: Kates and the Am on this Tuesday morning as the

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Speaker 5: Dodgers are one went away from moving on.

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Speaker 14: Hey, good morning you guys.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 14: Talk about a smile on my face. Yeah, I'm so

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Speaker 14: super psyched last night. Honestly, good game. The offense was

591
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Speaker 14: tremendous in that inning. You know, everybody was just going

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Speaker 14: through the lineup. It was super super awesome. But I'm

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Speaker 14: so glad to hear you guys back on the radio. Man,

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Speaker 14: been catching the show for years now. It's super awesome.

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Speaker 14: And me and Isaac are going out to the game

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Speaker 14: tomorrow night, so I'm hoping that the guys will close

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Speaker 14: it out and move on to the next level.

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Speaker 12: Man, Thanks for everything you guys do.

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Speaker 14: Man, let's keep it going.

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Speaker 5: Dger all right, thank you, appreciate the phone call. Eight

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Speaker 5: six six ninety seven seventy Lawrence and Valencia up in

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Speaker 5: Santa Karina. Lawrence, good morning. How you doing today?

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Speaker 3: Very good and it's great to hear you guys again.

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Speaker 5: Glad to be back.

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Speaker 3: Did I thank you? Yeah, Steve, it seemed like Max

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Speaker 3: had the dream of what happened to him when he

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00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 3: busted his knee. What do you what do you mean

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Speaker 3: you remember? Do you remember when Max had that injury

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Speaker 3: earlier in the season.

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Speaker 5: Okay, when you were going to third base? Yeah, you

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Speaker 5: got taken out at third base. Duringshaw's was his three

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Speaker 5: thousand strikeout game.

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Speaker 3: Yep, Yeah, that was the exact sceme, same kind of situation.

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Speaker 3: Oh it was yeah, go ahead, you uh that was

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Speaker 3: the real play.

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Speaker 2: Also, yeah, and you know what that's. That's the kind

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Speaker 2: of thing that that you can't predict when when you're

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00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 2: running a play like this, like this wheel play that's

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Speaker 2: already unpredictable, and it can be risky, you know, you

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Speaker 2: can you can tell even though it worked, you know

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Speaker 2: it's not gonna be always a smooth play because there's

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Speaker 2: so many moving parts in this and the timing mechanism

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Speaker 2: with the pitcher and getting the bunt down. Bunts are

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00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 2: always different. They're not the same all the time, so

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00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 2: you have to allow for that. So it's you know

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Speaker 2: the fact that it may not look perfect, and it

627
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Speaker 2: may not it may not come off to be something

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Speaker 2: spectacular as far as the timing goes. As long as

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Speaker 2: it works, and Mookie had to get there and and

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Speaker 2: make a play and tag him out and roll over

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Speaker 2: and get hit on it, it still worked and that's

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Speaker 2: the main thing that happens. But there's so many moving

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Speaker 2: parts on this, Like you mentioned with Muncy earlier, things

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Speaker 2: can happen in this instance. But the main thing is

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Speaker 2: you got the guy out and it changed the game.

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Speaker 5: It was a fantastic play executed to perfection by the

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Speaker 5: Dodgers in the ninth inning. And then rookie Susaki comes

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Speaker 5: in two pitches to Trey Turner to get the final

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Speaker 5: out as the Dodgers come home with a four to

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Speaker 5: three win over the Phillies. As they now have a

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Speaker 5: game three tomorrow night out of Dodger Stadium with the

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Speaker 5: Yoshinobu Yamamoto rested and ready to go against Aaron Nola

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Speaker 5: tomorrow night. Right here on a five seventy l as

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Speaker 5: Sports Oscar Baldwin Park is next up with Saxon Kates

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Speaker 5: and the am Oscar.

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Speaker 15: How you doing, Buddy, well so fell good morning, real quick.

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Speaker 15: Just hell of the game. I'm not gonna question Dave

648
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Speaker 15: Roberts too much. Dodger fans just gotta get used to it.

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Speaker 15: That's just October Baseball for us. This championsh If they

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Speaker 15: win't go out to win this year, I really assessed

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Speaker 15: the tone for the uh they're with the old tiny era.

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Speaker 15: Either they win maybe four five and six years or whatever,

653
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Speaker 15: or they win two three and six years. I think

654
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Speaker 15: this is I compet this to the Lakers team of

655
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 15: two thousand and one where they went on a run

656
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Speaker 15: and they they did good in the playoffs and they

657
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Speaker 15: went out to you know, win another championsh So I

658
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 15: think this is the Sunny Championship. They win this one

659
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 15: to get through the Phillies and take you all the way.

660
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Speaker 15: This is a dynasty soul. That's all I got though,

661
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Speaker 15: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: All right, Oscar, I appreciate it. Let's pump the brakes

663
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Speaker 5: a little bit as far as let's get past the

664
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Speaker 5: Phillies and that's it. Last year I was with you

665
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 5: the Padre series and the DS felt like the series.

666
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 5: Whoever got out of that was going to go on

667
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Speaker 5: and win the series, the World Series ultimately, and the

668
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Speaker 5: Dodgers did. I pumped the brakes a little bit on that,

669
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Speaker 5: Steve because of what's happening in this Brewers Cubs series.

670
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Speaker 5: In the other NLDS, the Milwaukee Brewers were the best

671
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Speaker 5: team in the National League for pretty much all season long,

672
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Speaker 5: and they have dismantled the Chicago Cubs in the first

673
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Speaker 5: two games. I think they've outscored him sixteen to six

674
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Speaker 5: in the first two games. And even though the Cubs

675
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Speaker 5: last night jumped out to a three to nothing leading

676
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 5: the top of the first, the Brewers came back and

677
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Speaker 5: answered with three runs in the bottom of the first.

678
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Speaker 5: And now the series goes to Chicago to tomorrow with

679
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 5: the chance for the Brewers to close things out. I

680
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 5: love Pat Murphy, the manager of the Brewers. He's an

681
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 5: old school college baseball head coach who was brought in

682
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Speaker 5: as a bench coach many years ago in Milwaukee, got

683
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Speaker 5: the job as the manager, and whatever he's doing there,

684
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 5: he is doing it right, and he gets the best

685
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Speaker 5: out of their players. And they have a team that's

686
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Speaker 5: got some young guys, some veteran guys. It's an interesting

687
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 5: Milwaukee Brewers team. And I don't want to get too

688
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 5: far ahead because this is still you know, a tough

689
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 5: NLDS against the Phillies team that can you know, rise

690
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 5: up to the occasion still, but I am looking at

691
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 5: that other NLDS series. Steve Sackson, man, the Milwaukee Brewers

692
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 5: look pretty good.

693
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he also coached with with Craig Counsel before

694
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: and now all these years later they're opposing one another

695
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 2: in the in the in the DS. So that's for

696
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: a pretty interesting little move there. But yeah, the Milwaukee

697
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: Brewers have got it going on. They don't hit a

698
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 2: lot of home runs, but man, they string hits together.

699
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: They can pitch, and they've got a very very good bullpen.

700
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: They've got lots of good stuff. All the all the

701
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: parts over here for Milwaukee are pretty much oiled and

702
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: working like a fine machine. And they can hit. I mean,

703
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: this Yellich is having, you know, a pretty big year

704
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: for them. They've got guys up and down the lineup

705
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Speaker 2: to put the ball in play. They don't strike out

706
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Speaker 2: a lot. And you know, if the Dodgers get past

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Speaker 2: the Phillies, and I think they will, I think they're

708
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 2: gonna beat them in three, and then they're gonna have

709
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Speaker 2: to come on and play this team. This will be

710
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Speaker 2: their biggest test as opposed to the last year where

711
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Speaker 2: it was in this series when they were playing the

712
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Speaker 2: Padres that I think was the biggest test. The next

713
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Speaker 2: one I think will be of course the World Series

714
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: always is, but getting past this formidable foe like the

715
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Speaker 2: Milwaukee Brewers is going to be a tough one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. And keep in mind that will be a home

717
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Speaker 5: series for the Milwaukee Brewers as far as home field advantage,

718
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Speaker 5: since they had the better record in the National League

719
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Speaker 5: during the regular season. Sassin joins us here from Westwood

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Speaker 5: on this Tuesday morning. Saxon Kates and the am Sassin

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Speaker 5: how you doing.

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Speaker 3: Doing great.

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Speaker 8: Thank you so much for taking my call to Kates

724
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Speaker 8: and Zach So I just wanted to shout out Blake Snell.

725
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: You know we're not even in that position.

726
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Speaker 8: There late in the game if not for Blake Snell

727
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Speaker 8: giving us six shutout innings. He's really proved David Vassa

728
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 8: correct that you know Snell Zilla is the guy that

729
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Speaker 8: we can trust.

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Speaker 5: He is And if there was any doubters out there,

731
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Speaker 5: Assassin appreciate the phone call. I think they are gone

732
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 5: to see what he has done this season. Went healthy

733
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Speaker 5: and again missed four months with the shoulder injury, just

734
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 5: like Sasaki missed most of the season. A lot of

735
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 5: Rizzo brought it up earlier. This is a team that

736
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Speaker 5: is healthy at the right time, and there's not a

737
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 5: lot of miles on these arms here in twenty twenty five, and.

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Speaker 2: Otani and Otani that's right. You put all these guys

739
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: together and say, whoa I mean? Is this something that

740
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: where the Dodgers prescient about this when they were saying, hey,

741
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: you know, let's we'll get through the season. We got

742
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: enough to do it, but man, will we come down

743
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Speaker 2: the stretch and get into postseason? We're gonna have these solid,

744
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: fresh arms with Snell, Otani and Sasaki, and we're gonna

745
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: be able to go at it with reckless abandon and

746
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: be really really suited to to take it on these

747
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Speaker 2: other teams. And it's it's working. I mean, look at

748
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: Snell yesterday. He gives a one hit in six innings.

749
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Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting when he talked about the

750
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Speaker 2: four walks that he had given up. He also had

751
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 2: nine strikeouts, but he said the walks didn't bother him

752
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: because there were good pitches. He wasn't missing by much.

753
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: And I'll agree with him. There the walks he give

754
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: up were just micro off, the off the fringe of

755
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: the plate. Don't worry about that. I mean, these can

756
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 2: be easily turned around to ground balls or strikeouts.

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Speaker 5: And we talked about it yesterday. This is a blake

758
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 5: Snell who will walk batters, will go deep into counts.

759
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 5: You saw yesterday that Lozardo threw twenty four pitches in

760
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Speaker 5: the first inning, but then he was lights out the

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Speaker 5: rest of the way, and by the time you got

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Speaker 5: to the fifth inning, he looked at the pitch counts.

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Speaker 5: You're like, wait a second, their neck and neck, how

764
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 5: is this Blake Snell's made it look easy. Well he did,

765
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Speaker 5: but there was a lot of two to two, three

766
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Speaker 5: two counts and then the walks that made for you know,

767
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 5: twenty pitch inning, twenty pitch inning, eighteen pitch inning, twenty

768
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Speaker 5: four pitch inning. That pitch count gets up on Blake Snell.

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Speaker 5: But man, he is just so efficient along the way.

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Speaker 5: He is ce Sacks Yep, yep, absolutely absolutely, he has

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Speaker 5: rested and he is good to go. We'll come back

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Speaker 5: more of your phone calls eight o'clock hour. We'll keep

773
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 5: things going. Talking Dodgers Phillies, one win away from the NLCS.

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00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 5: Right here on Anti seventy l A Sports Dodgers coming

775
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 5: back home with a two to oh series lead in

776
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Speaker 5: the NLDS after a four to three win over the

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Speaker 5: Phillies last night. Blake Snell was fantastic. He gets the

778
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 5: win Amidshian two innings of work. The ninth inning unraveled

779
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,959
Speaker 5: for Blake trying and Alex Vessi comes in some great

780
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 5: defensive play and then Roki Sasanki gets the final out

781
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 5: of the game as the Dodgers take a two oh

782
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 5: series lead with a chance to close it out tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: Night Game three with the Yoshinobu Yamamoto on the Mountain.

784
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 5: Dodgers return home early this morning, like three o'clock am.

785
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,919
Speaker 5: They landed in LA and they will have a late

786
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 5: afternoon workout at Dodgers Stadium, both teams. In fact, we'll

787
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 5: be out there talking to the media and going through

788
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 5: a workout later on this afternoon, and then Game three

789
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 5: tomorrow six to eight. First pitch right here on an

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Speaker 5: FI seventy LA Sports. The Phillies going with Aaron Nola,

791
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 5: who has had a rough season in twenty twenty five,

792
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 5: and they'll have Rangers Suarez to piggyback him if necessary.

793
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 5: But an interesting decision to go with the right hander

794
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 5: Aaron Nola, as appaired to the third straight left hander

795
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 5: to face the Dodgers after the first two games of

796
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 5: this series in Philadelphia. So it'll be interesting to see

797
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 5: that the Dodgers can get to Aaron Nola, who again

798
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 5: five and ten a career er in the postseason north

799
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Speaker 5: of four. The numbers don't jump out at you as

800
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 5: far as a lot of positivity if you're a Phillies fan,

801
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 5: but if you're the Dodgers, you're kind of licking your

802
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 5: Chops aid, Aaron Nola, guy you've seen a lot over

803
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 5: the years, and right hander who I think the Dodgers

804
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 5: can get to tomorrow night.

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00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, this has been a very much

806
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 2: a down year for Aaron Nola, which is not indicative

807
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: of what he's done in the past. I mean, this

808
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: guy has been a horse. He's been in very good

809
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 2: pitcher in postseason and what it what it was this

810
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: year is just one of those years. Only seventeen starts

811
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 2: and he gave up a lot more hits than innings pitched.

812
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: Strikeouts were obviously down. This is not any indication of

813
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: what kind of a pitcher Aaron Nola has been in

814
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: his career. It's you know, z Ra is over six

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Speaker 2: this year. This guy's got a you know, a lifetime

816
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 2: era in the in the threes. So this is this

817
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 2: is obviously something that the Phillies are hoping that his

818
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 2: experience will come back and he can catch the lightning

819
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 2: in a bottle with Aaron. It's a risky move because

820
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: it's been a really down year for him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's if you're going with left handers in the

822
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 5: first two games and they've both been very good against

823
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 5: the Dodgers for five innings or six innings last night

824
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 5: in the case of heyesus Lazardo, I just wonder why

825
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 5: not go back to a third left hander if they've

826
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 5: had success against the Dodgers, and hope that your offense

827
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 5: in the Phillies case, maybe can get something going against

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00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 5: Yamamoto and your third straight left hander could continue to

829
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 5: shut down the Dodgers offense. But hey, that's the decision

830
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 5: that Thompson's going with there in Philadelphia, and hopefully the

831
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 5: Dodgers could take advantage of Aaron Nola tomorrow. George and

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Speaker 5: Redondo Beach next up here on Saxon Kates and the

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Speaker 5: Am talking Dodgers in Phillies Live a local on your

834
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Speaker 5: home of the Dodgers Anti seventy. How you doing, George,

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Speaker 5: I'll fine.

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Speaker 12: How you guys doing doing great?

837
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 5: What do you want to say about last night's game?

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00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 12: Uh? Thank first off, thanks for taking my call, short

839
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 12: time I've ever gotten through. But also you're talking about

840
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 12: Freddie Freeher making that pick there the last out of

841
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 12: the the game. You guys also forget about the play

842
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 12: he made just before that by groundball that he got

843
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 12: to go to his got to go to his right,

844
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Speaker 12: I'm gonna pretty hot and then make a good throw

845
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 12: and then make a good throw to seconds to get

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Speaker 12: the out at second base.

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00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 5: That's true. That was the second.

848
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Speaker 12: That was a very good play. That was a very

849
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 12: good play. And also just you know, going back over

850
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 12: the over the wheel play after May third. Uh, you know,

851
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 12: guy has made some very good plays on the on

852
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 12: the infield. Yeah, that final in that final fraint.

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00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 5: No doubt George appreciate the phone call. The defense is, oftentimes, Steve,

854
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 5: the third element of a baseball game that doesn't get

855
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 5: talked about a lot. Certainly, we all love the offense,

856
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 5: we love the pitching, and when it's dominant, we talk

857
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 5: about it and it's on display. But the defense also

858
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 5: on display at times good and bad. We saw it

859
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 5: with tay Oscar Hernandez in the first couple of games

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Speaker 5: of this series.

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00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 10: Uh.

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00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 5: We saw it last night on the positive side in

863
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 5: the Dodgers case with the plays made and again you

864
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 5: kind of just forget about that force play that Freddie

865
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 5: Freeman made on the ground ball to him to get

866
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 5: the force out at second and it wasn't enough in

867
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 5: one a strong, strong of hit to turn the double

868
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 5: play to get the game over with. But the wheel

869
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 5: play for the out, the force play that Freddy's got

870
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 5: to make that play and turn and throw around the

871
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 5: runner to get the force out. A second we saw

872
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 5: last year in the NLDS that same play, Freddie threw

873
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 5: the ball and it went off the shoulder of a

874
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 5: San Diego Padre player into left center fields. It's a

875
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 5: whole home play for a lot of people, but it's

876
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 5: a tough play. And then you add the pick he

877
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 5: made for the final out defense saved there behind in

878
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 5: that ninth inning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I will say it again, the

880
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: defense at first base is far, far underrated. This is

881
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 2: a very important defensive position, not only for picking the

882
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 2: baseball for guys around around the horn there, but making

883
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: throws the arm of the first basement is something that

884
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 2: doesn't even get graded that much because they people feel

885
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 2: it's insignificant. I don't think it's insignificant at all. And

886
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: check out the plays that Freddie was making, and he

887
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: makes th out the playoffs he's made throughout the course

888
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 2: of his career, you will see that is very instrumental

889
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: on the outcome of the game. And we kind of

890
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 2: take it for granted, but look, at the plays that

891
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 2: Freddie makes at first base, both catching and throwing. It

892
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: makes a difference in the whole game.

893
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 5: He is unbelievable and I will die on that. H'll

894
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 5: getting him another Gold Glove because he has been absolutely

895
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 5: fantastic for this Dodgers team. Steh In Calabasas next up

896
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 5: with Saxon Kates and the am here on AI seventy

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Speaker 5: la Sports. How you doing, Stu, What's on your mind?

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Speaker 3: Excellent?

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Speaker 6: Well, how do they justify? You got Emma Sheian getting

900
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 6: stronger on the second ending of the first You've got

901
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 6: Sasaki the lights out closer, and you go and continue

902
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 6: to put Trinan in an experiment which has failed miserably

903
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 6: this season. Even Garcia Para and Harriston at the postgame

904
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 6: interviewing their show said they were shocked that Roberts put

905
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 6: Trying in the game. How does he get away with

906
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 6: that decision? And if they would have lost the game,

907
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 6: it had been a whole different series, one.

908
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 5: Hundred percent to appreciate it. I don't have an issue

909
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 5: with them going to Trying in there with the four

910
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 5: to one lead. The way Trinings pitched in four of

911
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 5: his last five outings, giving up just one run in

912
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 5: those five outings. He pitched wrong in the final weekend

913
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 5: in Seattle. He looked good against the Reds in those

914
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 5: two games that he pitched in the wild Card round.

915
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 5: He's on the road a four to one lead, been

916
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 5: in that situation, Steve, you mentioned it numerous times. Two

917
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 5: of the three hits that he gave up weren't hard

918
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 5: hit balls and you know, flared off the end of

919
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 5: the bat by the left hander goes into left field

920
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 5: for a hit. One of those things that happens if

921
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 5: if the ball, you know, isn't hit that hard, it's

922
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 5: a it's a you know, a line out to shortstop. Instead,

923
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 5: we're talking about a different situation. I don't have an

924
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 5: issue with that. And the fact that she and Dink

925
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 5: go back out for the ninth that's something we could discuss.

926
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,479
Speaker 5: I mean, through twenty seven pitches over two innings of work,

927
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 5: he got out of that jam in the eighth inning.

928
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 5: I know it's the the eightpex of his outing. He

929
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 5: just struck out Kylee Schwarber. He gets Bryce Harper to

930
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 5: fly out to center field. All right, leave him on

931
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 5: a positive note and go to the next guy. Or

932
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 5: after twenty seven pitches. You probably can't use him on

933
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 5: Wednesday because he's you know, used all his his bullets,

934
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 5: so to speak, in those two innings. Why not bring

935
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 5: him out and go batter to batter in that ninth inning.

936
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Speaker 5: Let's say he comes back out in the ninth and

937
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 5: gets the first guy, all right, get to the second guy.

938
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Speaker 5: Who knows, maybe he gets a three inning save, which

939
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 5: is one of those rare things in baseball, as well

940
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 5: as three innings save. Maybe he gets that last night.

941
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Speaker 5: If you let him go back out to the ninth.

942
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Speaker 2: You know, look, I think that we're all professors when

943
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: we can look back on it and say this is

944
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: what I would have done. I don't have a problem

945
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 2: with bringing him out there. He's had some good outings

946
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: as of late, and you want soft contact. You got

947
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 2: soft contact except for the ball that real Muto hit

948
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: and it was a mistake pitch. But you're gonna need

949
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 2: a guy like this going forward. You have to lengthen

950
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: the bullpen. You know what, if Sasaki has a bad outing,

951
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 2: then what are you gonna say, Oh, the guy he's

952
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: a pitcher for the long haul. He's not used to

953
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: going You're gonna hear that everywhere. Okay, so look, you

954
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: gotta go what's of the moment, and of the moment

955
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 2: is Sasaki. You can close it down, but you're gonna

956
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 2: also need On the other hand, you're gonna need length

957
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: in that bullpen, such as games that we had last

958
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: night and trying the best guy that suited for that.

959
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: Excuse me, is there another guy that you'd rather put

960
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: in there? If it is, then put it. Tell me

961
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Speaker 2: who it is. I don't know who would be right.

962
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't you need length in the bullpen.

963
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 5: You can't just have one guy, absolutely, especially for Sasaki,

964
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 5: who you don't know if he can pitch two games

965
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 5: in three days. That was a question. Dave Roberts even

966
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 5: had him in his own mind before ultimately going to

967
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 5: him for the final out in the ninth Inny because

968
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 5: he needed somebody to get in out. You're gonna need

969
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 5: Blake trying it at some point. Now, if there was

970
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 5: Tanner Scott he went to in the ninth inning there

971
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 5: with the four to one lead, Yes, we can all

972
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Speaker 5: have that discussion about why go to Tanner Scott Bud

973
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 5: Blake trying and I trust and I'll still trust Blake

974
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 5: trying in a situation this postseason, because that situation is

975
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 5: gonna come up where they're gonna need that veteran out

976
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Speaker 5: there at some point eight sixty six, nine eighty seven,

977
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Speaker 5: two five seventy two hours down, one to go. Your

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Speaker 5: phone calls the rest of the way, and we'll hear

979
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Speaker 5: from the manager, Dave Roberts. Coming up. Dodgers a two

980
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Speaker 5: to zero series lead in the NLDS. Saxon Kates and

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Speaker 5: the AM. We're live and local on your home of

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Speaker 5: the Dodgers Anti seventy LA Sports