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Speaker 4: But the problem is those tactical looks a preme basic.

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Speaker 6: Now what it's all part of the One World Order.

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Speaker 2: Oh, what he's doing Dan is brilliant, you know.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: And I mean they treat women as if women are property.

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Speaker 1: They have about the same status in these Muslim countries

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Speaker 1: as cattle. So it's a horrific thing. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I told you this the other night, but

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Speaker 1: I saw a posting on my social media feed the

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Speaker 1: day after the attacks, and it showed in one panel

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Speaker 1: it was a picture of women taking off their hood

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Speaker 1: jobs celebrating the death of the Ayatola Kamae. And then

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Speaker 1: on the other panel it was American women, liberal American

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Speaker 1: women who are protesting against it. So you know, these

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Speaker 1: women have their freedom now. And if you look at

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Speaker 1: what Trump is doing, it really is to bring freedom

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Speaker 1: to as many people around the world as it possibly can. Look,

446
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Speaker 1: war is a horrible thing, it's no one wants war.

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Speaker 1: But I think the end result, and I think the

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Speaker 1: the idea that you're you're going out there and you're

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Speaker 1: making these kind of changes, not so you can have conquest,

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Speaker 1: not so you can expand the territory or the reach

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Speaker 1: of the United States. But it's because so people can

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Speaker 1: have freedom. That's what it's all about.

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Speaker 6: Well, you've got hundreds of thousands of persons in America

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Speaker 6: going crazy celebrating what Trump has done. Yet you've got

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Speaker 6: Americans singer protesting it. I mean, Dan, we talked about

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Speaker 6: the old thing to do with your little brother heads

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Speaker 6: I win, tails.

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Speaker 2: You lose.

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Speaker 6: That's what it's like in America with Trump. It doesn't

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Speaker 6: matter heads. He loses tails, he loses. I mean, it's

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Speaker 6: just there's nothing he can do that they'll ever be

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Speaker 6: happy with.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, as far as far as as far as the

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Speaker 1: left is concerned, that's for sure. Ken, we I got

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Speaker 1: to give it to another caller. But as always, man

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Speaker 1: appreciates picking up the phone.

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Speaker 2: Dan, have a good one.

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Speaker 1: All right, there you go, Ken from Mason. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to Kenwood and we got a few minutes here with

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Speaker 1: Tom from ken Wood. Tom, you're on seven hundred. Ww Hey, thanks.

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Speaker 9: For taking my call.

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Speaker 10: Sorry, I didn't hear your whole conversation, so I'm not

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Speaker 10: really sure what the context is of where you're approaching this,

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Speaker 10: And sadly I have to say it's a bit of

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Speaker 10: a fuel conversation anyway. But this was a major, major miscalculation.

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Speaker 9: This was not planned out. The die has been cast

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Speaker 9: here that's going to lead to cast scating, catastrophic effects

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Speaker 9: across the entire global economy, the interconnected shipping lanes, global

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Speaker 9: capital markets, basically the entire post World War two international

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Speaker 9: war order as we know it is coming to an end.

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Speaker 10: Why why do you say that, Tom, Because this required

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Speaker 10: probably the most delicate strategic plan to actually disrupt Iran's

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Speaker 10: stranglehold on global oil supplies and it was botched completely.

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Speaker 1: Just a stranglehold on global oil supplies.

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Speaker 10: Uh, in a sense that matters for finding products on

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Speaker 10: your shelves over the next six months. Yes, America can

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Speaker 10: make its own oil. We can function strategically, uh, you know,

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Speaker 10: in an emergency. But this is Kuwait is going to

489
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Speaker 10: is going to plug oil wells. Guitar is going to

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Speaker 10: plug oil wells. There, it's going to.

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Speaker 1: Be where are you getting where are you getting this information?

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Speaker 10: They came out and said it you can your callers

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Speaker 10: or your listeners can you can search it. But the

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Speaker 10: point is this, even if we have our own oil,

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Speaker 10: the global system need was in a fragile, fragile state.

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Speaker 10: It all needs to function like gears coming together accurately.

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Speaker 10: And this is just broken it fundamentally.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's not America. America is going to now be

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Speaker 1: the the undoubted, undisputed leader when it comes to oil

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Speaker 1: when it comes to day and so it may take

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Speaker 1: some reconfiguring of of the state that you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: But if you just said, did you see the headline

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Speaker 1: the other day that that shipments oil shipments from Venezuela

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Speaker 1: have doubled. Now, that's that's not.

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Speaker 2: Going to this problem.

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Speaker 10: The problem is that the rest of the world, in

507
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Speaker 10: global interconnected system is going to fail.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how are you are? Are you just strong?

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Speaker 1: You just strang? And I wish we had more time

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Speaker 1: on this. But are you just drawing this from your

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Speaker 1: own conclusions or what where are you getting this from?

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Speaker 10: Poor Trump completely, God knows. Compared to the domestic policy,

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Speaker 10: he was the only option compared to the communists were

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Speaker 10: going to take over.

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Speaker 1: We need him.

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Speaker 2: But this is not a strong suit.

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Speaker 8: Let's be honest.

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Speaker 9: He doesn't know what he's doing in situations like this.

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Speaker 11: I'm just going to leave it this way.

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Speaker 10: Within the next twelve months, you are going to have

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Speaker 10: to be getting food rations in this country.

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: All right, Tom, Now don't hang up on him. Russ

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Speaker 1: did he did? He just sort of faded away there.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I, you know, I need to

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Speaker 1: write this down and see if Tom's prediction is going

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Speaker 1: to come true over the next twelve months. So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna make a note of this and remember

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Speaker 1: this phone call and see if all these horrible things

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Speaker 1: that he's talking about are going to come true. But Tom,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you weighing in. We got to get to

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Speaker 1: a break news coming up top of the hour, and

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Speaker 1: then it's gonna be here. Says that. I guess I

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Speaker 1: got Kurt Hartman at seven. Donna, Yeah, we'll talk to

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Speaker 1: our buddy, the judge, Kurt Hartman, and in the seven

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Speaker 1: o'clock hour on seven hundred WLW back on the Big one,

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Speaker 1: seven hundred w LW seven o nine, Dan Carroll till

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Speaker 1: nine tonight and then Donna d after that. Normally it's

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Speaker 1: Jason Williams here this time on a Saturday night, but

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Speaker 1: not tonight. Got the call to the bullpen. So here

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Speaker 1: I am tonight, and I know one of Jason Williams

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Speaker 1: regular guests, and I guess I love to have on

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Speaker 1: when I can is our buddy, the one time Hamilton

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Speaker 1: County Common Police Court Judge Kurt Hartman. And Kurt, how

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Speaker 1: you doing tonight, man? I mean there's so many let

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Speaker 1: me put let me let me put the ball in

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Speaker 1: your court, all right, there's so many. I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: so many things that we got going on here locally.

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Speaker 1: The crime numbers are not good. We've got we've got

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Speaker 1: people shooting at each other. Inside crowded venues, and the

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Speaker 1: prosecutor says, well, it may be self defense. Clyde Bennett

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Speaker 1: is on a roll because he was defending the dude

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Speaker 1: who was shooting into a restaurant downtown. He says self defense.

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Speaker 1: Then he gets those charges dismissed. Then we got this

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Speaker 1: other guy. He's defending the other guy who was at

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Speaker 1: the Riverview Live shooting. And now we're saying we're here

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Speaker 1: in self defense. There our buddy Afroman, his trial is

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Speaker 1: going to be starting in about a week or two.

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Speaker 1: And now we have, of course Operation Epic Fury, and

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Speaker 1: we're talking about what's going on with Iran. And I

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Speaker 1: had a caller talk about oil and all the rest

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Speaker 1: of that before. So if you were on tonight with

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Speaker 1: Jason Williams, what do you think would be the first

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Speaker 1: thing you guys be talking about. So the ball is

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Speaker 1: in your court.

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Speaker 11: Ball in my court? I think we talk local politics

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Speaker 11: and the locals then first, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, because Jason Williams loves that kind of stuff, don'ty Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Well, and at the end of the day, that's where

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Speaker 12: the rubber meets the road for most people who are listening, right, yep.

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Speaker 11: Yes, what's happening.

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Speaker 12: You know in Iran, it's going to affect our lives,

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Speaker 12: affects pricing, you know, gas and gasoline.

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Speaker 11: In that at the end of the day, you know,

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Speaker 11: from our daily lives.

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Speaker 12: So what's going on in our city and in our

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Speaker 12: community is what happens to us and our family.

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Speaker 11: And so I think that's kind of where we would

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Speaker 11: have started, you know.

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Speaker 12: But you know, and you talk about the crime wave,

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Speaker 12: it's like, well, I think it's been a continual wave

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Speaker 12: where tsunami if you will.

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Speaker 11: But uh, you know, the thing is with Cincinnati is

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Speaker 11: and you know, we how how long have we been

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Speaker 11: saying it?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 11: There's no leadership?

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Speaker 1: This seems like for far too long now, far too long.

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Speaker 12: And it's and it's interesting, you know, to kind of

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Speaker 12: mix the two what we just the two options we

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Speaker 12: had look at the strong leadership of President Trump, agree

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Speaker 12: or disagree with what he's doing vsav Iran. It is firm,

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Speaker 12: it is decisive, it's not equivocal, it's unequivocal. Compare that

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Speaker 12: to what we get from you know, I have to

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Speaker 12: have purevelle on this, you know, unanimous democrat, you know,

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Speaker 12: city council of an echo chamber it's just so wimpish.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 13: Uh.

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Speaker 11: The the great great.

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Speaker 12: English language word I live was pussolanimous. Uh to describe

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Speaker 12: it's just it's weak.

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Speaker 11: It's weak.

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Speaker 12: It's one of those you you need a ward that

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Speaker 12: rhymes with unanimous. It's plimous, legitimate word there that describes

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Speaker 12: the mayor and the city, the council. It's just, you know,

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Speaker 12: all they do and we've seen it, have been tweets.

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Speaker 12: But the problem is, you know, that was an issue before.

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Speaker 11: The November election. The crime being out of control was

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Speaker 11: an issue before the election.

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Speaker 12: Yet this is what the people of the city of

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Speaker 12: Cincinnati apparently voted for, and they're getting what they voted for.

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Speaker 12: It it's going you know, it's going downhill real quick.

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Speaker 12: If it's good to go any faster, it would. And

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Speaker 12: so you know, the people, you get the government you

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Speaker 12: voted for. And you know, I don't live in the

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Speaker 12: city itself. I know you don't too.

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Speaker 11: You and I are both Anderson Township people.

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Speaker 12: But it.

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Speaker 11: Affects the entire community. And unfortunately, this is what the

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Speaker 11: people of Cincinnati voted for.

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Speaker 12: Because because people don't feel safe going downtown, you don't know,

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Speaker 12: crime is out of control, you know, in a certain sense,

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Speaker 12: you know, I think about law enforcement officers trying to

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Speaker 12: investigate all this, I don't.

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Speaker 11: Think they've got the resources.

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Speaker 12: Considering how prolific you know, crime and violent crime has become.

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Speaker 12: There's only so many detectives who can work on only

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Speaker 12: so many cases at a time, and I'd be hard

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Speaker 12: for ash to you know, to see, you know, do

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Speaker 12: they really have the resources to investigate all the crime

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Speaker 12: that is occurring?

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Speaker 11: And my gut says no, they don't.

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Speaker 12: You know, They're doing the best they can with I'm

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Speaker 12: sure the limited resources that the mayor and the city

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Speaker 12: manager and city council have given them.

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Speaker 11: But oh, you know, so that's it. You know, you

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Speaker 11: talk about you know this self defense there, self defense there.

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Speaker 11: You know, I've got two ways one. I think two

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Speaker 11: aspects about that.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 12: Firstly, you know, I don't want somebody who is rightfully

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Speaker 12: exercising their right of self defense to be denied that

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Speaker 12: right and to have to go through a legal process

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Speaker 12: when they exercise self defense. So in a certain sense,

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Speaker 12: I'm actually pleased that Connie Pillage is willing to say

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Speaker 12: this was self defense, you know, and therefore we're not

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Speaker 12: going to prosecute them that aspect, in a certain sense,

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Speaker 12: I take some comfort from that.

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Speaker 11: The problem is, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 12: I don't have the greatest confidence in Connie Pillage, you know,

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Speaker 12: to make sure she's doing the right decision versus is

653
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Speaker 12: it a political decision. Is as part of this radical,

654
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 12: you know, social justice platform that has taken over the

655
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 12: Democratic Party, has taken over Cincinnati and Hamilton County. I'm

656
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 12: not sure what's truly driving it. I don't have the

657
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Speaker 12: confidence in her to say she's got it right. Because

658
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Speaker 12: of that, well, let me this.

659
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Speaker 1: I think this gets a little complicated here because we've

660
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Speaker 1: got these two characters. We got twenty four year old

661
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Speaker 1: Frankie Cobb and the other one is twenty nine year

662
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: old Derek Long. And according to the prosecutor, Connie Pillage,

663
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: she says Cob shot Long from close range and then

664
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Speaker 1: Long fired back in self defense. So there are again,

665
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Speaker 1: there are several things that can be true at the

666
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: same time that may be true. But both of these

667
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: got guys have lengthy criminal records. I think both of

668
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: them have felony convictions. Both of them are weapons under disability,

669
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: which means they're not to be in possession of a firearm.

670
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: So how well does the self defense defense hold up

671
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: if you are in violation of these other rules and

672
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Speaker 1: one says that you're not to be in possession of

673
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Speaker 1: a firearm.

674
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Speaker 12: Well, you know, self defense goes to were you reasonable

675
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 12: fear of your death or serious bodily injury to yourself

676
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 12: or others? And in certain sense, it doesn't matter what

677
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 12: your criminal history is. It doesn't matter whether you have

678
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 12: the right to carry a firearm or not. You know,

679
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 12: with from an objective reasonable person, were you reasonable fear

680
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 12: of that death or serious bodily injury?

681
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 11: And if you are, and if the if as.

682
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Speaker 12: A defendant, you can put forth a good faith basis

683
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Speaker 12: for that assertion. You know, now we OHI, we have

684
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Speaker 12: the standard ground law. Where in that instance then the

685
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 12: burden shifts to the prosecution to prove it was not

686
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 12: self defense.

687
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 11: You know, if you think back historically self defense you

688
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 11: had to prove it, prove it, prove you or fear.

689
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 11: Now with standard ground ball.

690
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 12: If that basis exists in the facts and the judges, yeah,

691
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 12: there's a basis to make that assertion, then the state

692
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 12: has to prove it was not. They almost have to

693
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 12: prove the negative and maybe that goes into part of

694
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 12: the calculus.

695
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: Of the does stand your ground? Does that apply that

696
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: no matter where you are?

697
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 3: Is it?

698
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: Is it different if you're in your own home or

699
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: property that you own as opposed to being in a

700
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Speaker 1: public venue like this.

701
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Speaker 12: Uh, I'd have to check out, I mean not to

702
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 12: give I don't believe it does. I believe it does

703
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 12: not matter. I think it's self defense and self defense

704
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 12: and that you can say I was in fear, your

705
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 12: reasonable fear of the death or serious bodily harm.

706
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 11: I believe I will check next time on I will

707
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 11: let you know for certain.

708
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: Uh.

709
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Speaker 11: So don't take that to the bank. Don't say Judge

710
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 11: Hartman said this or Judge Hartman said that in that regard.

711
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: But but doesn't it?

712
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 12: Am?

713
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Speaker 2: I am?

714
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Speaker 1: I right that this gets a little complicated because these

715
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: guys were not supposed to have those weapons inside that venue,

716
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: and they were not supposed to have them on their person.

717
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: So the fact you got two guys long criminal histories,

718
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: both of them weapons under disability, which means you're not

719
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 1: supposed to have a gun, and and both of them

720
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: have guns, so it you know, what's uh, you know,

721
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: I guess which one outweighs. The other one I guess

722
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: is what whoever catches this case is going to have

723
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: to look.

724
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 12: At right, Yeah, and and the person, you know, even

725
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 12: the person who said who Connie came out and said

726
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 12: self defense, is still looking at.

727
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 11: The weapons charges there.

728
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Speaker 2: I think the.

729
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 11: You know as well as you know the FEDS are

730
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 11: getting involved as well.

731
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 12: Uh, but you know, it was interesting, you're you're right,

732
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 12: they talked about, yeah, guns weren't supposed to be in

733
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 12: this venue, how they get them in and et cetera.

734
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 12: I don't know if you recalled maybe five six years

735
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 12: ago similar shooting down at I think the Cameo nightclub.

736
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 11: Down there was on Kellogg Avenue right there by four Seasons,

737
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 11: and it.

738
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 12: Was the same thing, maybe multiple shootings inside a nightclub

739
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 12: there wasn't supposed to be there.

740
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 11: Security outside was checking, et cetera.

741
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 12: Well, it turned out a cameo there was the front

742
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 12: door where you had to go through your metal detector,

743
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 12: but there was a side door where you could pay money,

744
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 12: slept money to security and not go.

745
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 11: Through a metal detector.

746
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 12: And honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if a similar arrangement

747
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 12: existed here. And that's how the guns got in. Yeah,

748
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 12: that don't know that for a fact. But as soon

749
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 12: as I heard that, it brought back memories of that

750
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 12: Cameo shooting. And it's like, you know, always a loophole

751
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 12: or way around that. You'll people throw money here or

752
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 12: there and people look the other way.

753
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 11: I hate to say that some of these venues.

754
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: So if the if the owner of Riverfront Live has

755
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: not lawyered up yet, he probably need to do that

756
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 1: fairly quickly.

757
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 7: I would as yeah, yes, yes, yes, So so that's

758
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 7: kind of the gist right now.

759
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 12: I think, you know, but I think, you know, we

760
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 12: look at the crime it's interesting, sadly, you know, almost

761
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 12: a shooting, a day of shooting, a couple of shootings

762
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 12: a week, it's almost just you almost.

763
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 11: Expected in the news anymore.

764
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 12: Sure, which is a sad way, sad way for us

765
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 12: to be as a community. Uh that you know, it's

766
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 12: you know, I remember back in the day, I'm probably

767
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 12: decades ago, you know, when a shooting led the news,

768
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 12: that was the big news on the news.

769
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: It's not anymore, Sadly, Yeah, I was gonna say, sadly,

770
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: we are slowly getting to that point where the shooting

771
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: maybe makes a splash for one news cycle or maybe two,

772
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: and then we hardly ever hear about it anymore so.

773
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 12: Right right, because because the next news cycle you got

774
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 12: another shooting and you just really grow indifferent to it.

775
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 12: And we we are a society, we as a community

776
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 12: cannot allow that to happen. But what's really is going

777
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 12: to take is a change of leadership in Cincinnati and

778
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 12: Hamilton County, both places. I think the courts have to change, Uh,

779
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 12: the law enforcement leadership has to change, you know. I

780
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 12: mean you look at Cincinnati. You've got Chief Teegey who's

781
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 12: been on administrative lead now for how long because they're

782
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 12: trying to find charges against her, that.

783
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: Is investigating as long as she has been twisting in

784
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: the wind on this. I mean how that is just

785
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: an absolute disgrace, isn't it?

786
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 12: The for the it's a miscarriage of justice. But here's

787
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 12: the leadership you're getting, you know, with a half to

788
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 12: have pure belle with the city mayor manager, sharel Long

789
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 12: and the city council. You know, they don't care. I

790
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 12: really don't think they care. All they care about is

791
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 12: being in their position of power. And when something goes wrong,

792
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 12: who can they throw.

793
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Speaker 1: Under the bus, but doing an investigation of the chief

794
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 1: I mean, judge, I mean, I think all the records

795
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 1: that pertain to the chief are pretty much in one place.

796
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: It appears the city is not barring access to any

797
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: of these records. So and I appreciate that you have

798
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: an independent or an outside law firm that is conducting

799
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: this investigation, but for come off, for crying out loud,

800
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: I mean, how it doesn't seem like there's you know,

801
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: this is You're not You're not scanning the entire country

802
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: to try and find dirt on Teresa Thiji.

803
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 2: Are you.

804
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: There's a fly in the ointment? It should all pretty

805
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: much be in the documentation that already exists after what.

806
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 12: Four or five months that this has been going on,

807
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 12: and you're your listeners and may not realize they just

808
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 12: recently extended the investigation even I know, it's not like

809
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 12: you know, so it's like people may not realize that

810
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 12: it just was in the news last week because.

811
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 11: They extended it again.

812
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 12: And I'm sorry, you know, maybe maybe it's not her leadership,

813
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 12: but it's the leadership of the mayor, or the lack

814
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 12: of leadership of the mayor. It's the lack of leadership

815
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 12: from the city manager. But you know, people, this is

816
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 12: what they voted for. And how bad does it need

817
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 12: to get before the people of Cincinnati say we need

818
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 12: to change? You know, how deep does that hole have

819
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 12: to be dug that you hope you can get out

820
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 12: of that hole?

821
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 2: Uh?

822
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 11: You know, I mean I kind of in fact, you know,

823
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 11: to look at Detroit, right Detroit, you know.

824
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 12: Has there's nothing what it was right games running, the

825
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 12: munk houses going in disrepair, you know, I mean for

826
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 12: lack of a m the ghetto of the ghetto in

827
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 12: terms of just people not being safe, homes just being abandoned,

828
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 12: and property values plummeting, and it's crawl trying to crawl out.

829
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 12: But it is so low and I hate to say it,

830
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 12: Cincinnati is going in that direction unless something changes and

831
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 12: changes quickly.

832
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: All right, let's uh, we've got just a couple of

833
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 1: minutes left here. But uh, you texted me a thread

834
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: that I actually had up in front of me earlier

835
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: during the show, And this is what the White House

836
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: put out. I believe they put this out the day

837
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: after the attack, the first initial attack in Tehran, and

838
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: it goes back all the way to it details and

839
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: they say it's only a partial record the Iranian regimes

840
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 1: bloodsoaked war on Americans, and it goes all the way

841
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: back to nineteen seventy nine, starting with Iranian students back

842
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: by the regime, sees the US embassy in Tehran taking

843
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: sixty six American hostages in a standoff that lasted four

844
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: hundred and forty four days. And from there on, it's

845
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: from the nineteen seventy nine you got incidents in nineteen

846
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: eighty three, all through the nineteen eighties, nineteen ninety six,

847
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven Al Qadas suicide bomber facilitated by Iran

848
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 1: back by Hasbelah bombs the US embassy's in Kenda, Kenya

849
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: and Tanzania, killing two hundred and twenty four American citizens. Yeah,

850
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: we forget about all that kind of stuff. And this

851
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 1: kind of stuff has been going on ever since nineteen

852
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: seventy nine. So I think it's completely fair to look

853
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: at this and say, this is a war that has

854
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: been going on against the United States in nineteen seventy nine,

855
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: and what we are doing now is finally trying to

856
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 1: bring it into this Well.

857
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Speaker 12: Yeah, you know exactly. And then you know, I remember

858
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 12: a lot of those instances from back in the eighties.

859
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 12: I was at the Naval Academy Den and then in

860
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 12: the Navy in the late eighties, and I remember them,

861
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 12: you know, I do remember those news reports which were occurring.

862
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 12: You know, we kind of talk about, okay, the hostage

863
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 12: crisis in nineteen seventy nine to nineteen eighty and that's

864
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Speaker 12: where then everything becomes kind of a blurb for most people,

865
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Speaker 12: I think when it deals with iron.

866
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Speaker 11: But you know, you're right.

867
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Speaker 12: They were hijacking planes, they were killing Americans, and this

868
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Speaker 12: is listing all the Americans, you know, the bombing of

869
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 12: the Bay Marine Barracks in Beirut in.

870
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Speaker 14: October of nineteen eighty three, killing Junner and forty plus,

871
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Speaker 14: you know, hijacking a plane and Robert Stidham, I still remember,

872
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 14: a petty officer in the Navy was beaten brutally and then.

873
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 11: Killed and thrown off the out of the plane on

874
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 11: the tarmac, you know. And that's in the eighties.

875
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 12: And it just continues. And this is a list that

876
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 12: people really need to go through to learn and appreciate

877
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 12: if they don't know that history, to get it. And

878
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 12: it's interesting, I really think when I'm hearing that when

879
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 12: you know, I've appreciated looking at that list.

880
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 11: What kind of reminds me of is where the United.

881
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 12: States stood on September tenth of two thousand and one,

882
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 12: because at that point Al Qaeda was at war with

883
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 12: the United States, but the United States didn't fully appreciate.

884
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: That it was at war.

885
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 12: Absolutely, And we have been at war with the you know,

886
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 12: Islamic radicals controlling Iran for the past forty seven years.

887
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 12: They have been at war with the Western civilization and

888
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 12: in particular with the United States and Israel for forty

889
00:51:59,200 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 12: seven years.

890
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,240
Speaker 1: And it's a shame because the only thing they understand

891
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: and the only thing they respond to is absolute brutality.

892
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 1: And we are in the business now of being retaliating

893
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: against them in the most brutal ways imaginable. And that's

894
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 1: the only way this is going to come.

895
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 12: I would not say we're retaliating against them. We are

896
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 12: protecting ourselves. We're doing war. We are fighting war as

897
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,439
Speaker 12: war needs to be fought. Yes, we're fighting a war

898
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 12: that we finally recognized that thankfully President Trump recognized, and

899
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 12: I think the timing was right perfect, you know, Yeah,

900
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 12: the Twelve Day War last year that crippled their nuclear system,

901
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 12: but they were going right back to try to develop

902
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 12: nuclear weapons, you know. And Bastard Wikoff says, you know,

903
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 12: when they first were just recently talking with the Iranians

904
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 12: about nuclear things, they're basically the Ranians are laughing saying

905
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 12: we've got enough you know, uh uranium to build eleven

906
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 12: nuclear bombs. And they're laughing about they're proud about it,

907
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 12: you know, and it's kind of it is a death cult. This,

908
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 12: this segment of Islam especially is so apocalyptic as a

909
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 12: death cult.

910
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 11: But they don't care about that, you know.

911
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 12: They think they're gonna go get their seventy two versions, etcetera, etcetera.

912
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 12: But but again, they were at war with us. Finally,

913
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 12: the President says, we're at war. We're gonna fight this

914
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 12: like a war, all right. Yeah, we're not gonna dip

915
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 12: our toe, dip bartew in the water. We're gonna do it.

916
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 12: And I'm glad he's doing it. This long overdue. The

917
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 12: timing could not have been probably better. So absolutely, God speed,

918
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 12: protect the troops and all that. But you know, it

919
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 12: is a war, all right. We're fighting it finally like

920
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 12: a war.

921
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: We're way we're way late. For a break. We're gonna

922
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: leave it right there. As always, Kurt, I appreciate you

923
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: picking up the phone and joining us, and we'll talk

924
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: to you again soon, my friend. All the best to

925
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: you gladly all. I think you our buddy Curt apartment

926
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 1: and we appreciate him. Seven eight seven hundred WLW seven

927
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: hundred WW seven forty one. We rolled till nine tonight.

928
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 1: Dona d takes it from there nine to Midn't they

929
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 1: always great to welcome in. My next guest, the guy

930
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: I've been talking to for a long long time. I mean,

931
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 1: we go back to Dave had Her, We go back

932
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: to like the Fox nineteen days, and I want to

933
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: say that was like back in the nineteen nineties. Man,

934
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 1: that was a long time ago.

935
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 3: As always, thanks for having me on Dan, Yes, the

936
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 3: Fox nineteen days.

937
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,479
Speaker 1: So yeah, so we I mean, and we talked about

938
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: all this same kind of stuff back then, and it

939
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: never gets old. I love to tell you the story

940
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: about the stories when things affect me personally. So a

941
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: couple of nights ago, totally out of the blue, I

942
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: get a text from my wife and she sends me

943
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: a screenshot of this thing that she got texted to her,

944
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 1: and right there on the top it says State of

945
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: Ohio in the in Columbus Municipal Court, County of Franklin,

946
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: and it goes on to talk about how you got this,

947
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: you know, this parking violation and there's going to be

948
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 1: a hearing and you need to scan on the QR

949
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: code there on the bottom. And so I'm looking at

950
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: this and I'm like, man, this is got scam written

951
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: all over it. And before we talk about this particular scam,

952
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: I just want to say this. I mean, I mean,

953
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: my radar was on for this right from the get go.

954
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: I knew it. I called it as soon as I

955
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 1: saw it. And that is because of all the times

956
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: I have talked to you. You have trained me quite

957
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 1: well to be on the lookout for these kind of things.

958
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 1: And I know I'm not the only one who tells

959
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: you that. So there's got to be people that come

960
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: up to you all the time and say, Dave Hatter,

961
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: I heard you talking about X, Y and Z, and

962
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: I didn't get scammed. I got this thing in my email,

963
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: I got it on my cell phone, whatever the case

964
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,919
Speaker 1: may be. And I didn't need to click on the link.

965
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: I didn't do any of that stuff. Because I hear

966
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 1: you talking about this on the radio all the time.

967
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: That must be quite gratifying for you to hear those

968
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: sorts of things, knowing that you're having that positive impact

969
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: and preventing people from going down this rabbit hole that is,

970
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 1: and you get caught up in this kind of stuff.

971
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: It doesn't necessarily ruin your life, but it makes your

972
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 1: life a hell of a lot more inconvenient.

973
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 3: Well, then I appreciate the feedback, and yeah, I do

974
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,479
Speaker 3: hear that occasion. I wish I heard it more often

975
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 3: because I wish more people would take this to heart.

976
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 3: And honestly, I think you telling stories like this, it's

977
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 3: so much more powerful to have someone who's had something

978
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 3: like this happened to him tell the story to me,

979
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 3: just you know, putting on my tentrittle hat and saying,

980
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 3: all these bad things are going to happen. You know,

981
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 3: something similar to that happened with my wife. We were

982
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 3: sitting on the couch one night and we use USA

983
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 3: as a bank. She gets a text there's fraud on

984
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 3: the account, blah blah blah sort of things right, and

985
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 3: she calls the number and as soon as she starts talking,

986
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 3: to them. And I think it's important to point out folks,

987
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 3: you know, yes, you cannot trust a link in an email.

988
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 3: You can't trust a link in a text. You can't

989
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 3: you trust the phone number that you see or an

990
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 3: email address, and needy of these things are easily spoof

991
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 3: But people often under estimate how often these people will

992
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 3: call you or want you to call them. And you know, Dan,

993
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,399
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, most of these kind

994
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 3: of scams we're talking about here and I'll finish my story,

995
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 3: but most of these kind of scams are not, you know,

996
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 3: highly technical. The people behind them aren't technical wizards. They're

997
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 3: basically con artists who are now using the Internet, whether

998
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 3: it's social media, text messages, email or whatever, to get

999
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 3: to people.

1000
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 5: Right.

1001
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 3: They have this now vastly expanded space they can get

1002
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 3: the people in and whether you call them or they

1003
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 3: call you, you know, once you get on the phone

1004
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 3: with them. And I encourage people to go out and

1005
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 3: check out a guy named kit Boga Ki t Boga.

1006
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 3: He's got a YouTube channel and he's a scam the

1007
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 3: scammer guy. And not only is he funny, especially once

1008
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 3: the scammers after who'll have them on the phone for two, three,

1009
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 3: four hours, however long he can come about that. Yeah, yeah,

1010
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 3: he's wasting their time. He's doing his society a huge

1011
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 3: favor by keeping these scammers occupied. Then of course they

1012
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 3: eventually figure out that kit Boga is the scammer, and

1013
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 3: then it's usually pretty funny. But my point about him

1014
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 3: is it's really instructive to see the kind of lives

1015
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 3: these people will tell. And he's saying and doing the

1016
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 3: dumbest things you can imagine. They're trying to play along

1017
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 3: and keep pivoting and getting to the point where they're

1018
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 3: going to somehow get money from them gift cards, venmo, bitcoin, ATM,

1019
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 3: you name it. Whatever lies. So in my wife's case,

1020
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 3: you know, she calls and I'm list like, this is

1021
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 3: a scam.

1022
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 2: Hang up.

1023
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 3: So you know, we go log into USAA dot com

1024
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 3: or and then check everything is good. Change We've changed

1025
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 3: our password just because you know, I'm the doomsday guy

1026
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 3: and we already have them that Fay turned on. So yeah,

1027
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 3: but these things happen all the time, Dan, And it's

1028
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 3: partially because a it's really easy to send down an

1029
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 3: email or send a text to every conceivable pattern you

1030
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 3: could come up with for email addresses and phone numbers.

1031
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 3: But also because our data that is increasingly collected is

1032
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 3: increasingly leaked or stolen or breached, and the bad guys

1033
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 3: have access to your phone number, they have access to

1034
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 3: your email address, and more importantly, they have access to

1035
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 3: a treasure trope of information about you. So that rather

1036
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 3: than sending the old school just sort of random, you know,

1037
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 3: any old message to try to trick you, they will often,

1038
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 3: you know, personalize the message. I just saw a story

1039
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 3: the other day where you know, someone in a similar

1040
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 3: scenario what you just described, got to call, Oh, what

1041
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 3: your son is in jail, the UI bond, blah blah blah,

1042
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 3: you know, all this stuff, Officers such and such from

1043
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 3: I think it was a handlin a county Sheriff's office,

1044
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 3: if I recall correctly. Unfortunately, this person calls that number

1045
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 3: and they answer the phone like, you know, Deputy Deputy

1046
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 3: Cindy lou who, Oh, yes, you're calling about such and such. Well,

1047
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 3: he's in the holding cell. I mean, they've already set

1048
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 3: you up for this.

1049
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 2: So unfortunate.

1050
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not necessarily very sophisticated technologically, but they're very sophisticated.

1051
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 3: And you know, we'll tell you whatever.

1052
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 2: Lie.

1053
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 3: So it's sad, but that's where we're at there, and

1054
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 3: that level of skepticism you just described and displayed is

1055
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 3: what everyone has to have. You can't trust nothing and

1056
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 3: you must verify everything.

1057
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And it was I think it was the

1058
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: next day we were in the car and the story

1059
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: came on about up the Ohio Attorney General David jose

1060
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: putting out a warning about this scam, and he says, hey,

1061
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: if you get it being a number one, do not

1062
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: scan the I I do not like scanning a QR code.

1063
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: I even got to the point to where if I

1064
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: go into a restaurant and the only way I can

1065
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: look at the menu is to scan a QR code,

1066
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: I'm getting up, but I'm leaving because I just won't

1067
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: do it anymore. And I mean, is that taking it

1068
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: too far? Is scanning a QR code something that's that's

1069
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: always necessarily bad? It just seems to me, and again,

1070
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: based on the conversations we've had on this, it just

1071
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: opens the door to so many possibilities that I just

1072
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: don't want to go down that road.

1073
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 3: Well, I hate that I've poisoned you, Dan, but no,

1074
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 3: it's not going to.

1075
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're running a restaurant, have a printed menu,

1076
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: then you'll get my business. You know you hear me.

1077
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 3: I am in the same boat. I can tell you

1078
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 3: if I pull into a parking lot and I have

1079
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 3: to scan your crafty QR code or download especially if

1080
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 3: I have to download an app, downloading an app to

1081
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 3: park or anything like that. But let me let's talk

1082
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 3: about QR codes for a second, because it's really important

1083
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 3: that people understand this. A you cannot look at a

1084
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 3: QR code with a naked eye and know what it does.

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Speaker 3: It's impossible.

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Speaker 15: Absolutely QR codes can launch malicious, malicious actions like taking

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Speaker 15: you to a malicious website where you download something, or

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Speaker 15: you know, suck get sucked into entering your credentials.

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Speaker 3: It's really hard to explain how dangerous QR codes could be.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm not saying they all are. I mean they

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Speaker 3: were designed with a legitimate purpose, and they have a

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01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 3: legitimate purpose. But again, bad guys are essentially con artists.

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Speaker 3: They're tricksters. They know that most people don't really understand

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01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 3: how this stuff works. And there are well documented cases

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01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 3: around the country where they'll go into a downtown area

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Speaker 3: and they'll put new QR codes over top of the

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01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 3: parking meters, and when you scan the QR code, you

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01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 3: are now in their clutches. Whether it's they're trying to

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01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 3: steal your credentials or steal your twenty five dollars parking payment,

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01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 3: or whatever it is. They are literally replacing legitimate QR

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01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 3: codes with malicious QR codes, which could be done anywhere

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Speaker 3: out in public in any setting, right, I mean even

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Speaker 3: in a restaurant. I could walk in and put a

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01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 3: new QR code over the restaurant's menu QR code, and

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Speaker 3: then when someone scans it, it potentially does something malicious.

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Speaker 3: So no, I can tell you, Dan, I will not ever,

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Speaker 3: under any circumstances, scan a random QR code, and even

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01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 3: if I have to have a high level of trust

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Speaker 3: that it's legit before I'm going to scan any QR code.

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01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 3: Like you know, if I went into a client site

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01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 3: or something and they had a QR code in a factory,

1112
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 3: which is primarily what these things were originally designed for, right,

1113
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 3: it can store more information than the old school line

1114
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Speaker 3: type bar codes. That's really what it was intention was

1115
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 3: to be able to put more information in that pattern.

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01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 3: So it started with a legitimate purpose. It has a

1117
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 3: legitimate the purpose. But I'm really glad you brought this

1118
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 3: up because it is important for people to understand you

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01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 3: should not scan QR code out at random because they

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Speaker 3: could easily be replaced by another malicious QR code.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's all, it's all for convenience. It just

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01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: makes it all so convenient. So there's another issue. And

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Speaker 1: we were texting each other earlier today, and it turns

1124
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: out we were on the same page on this one.

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Speaker 1: And I saw this headline earlier in the week and

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01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: I and I was going to have you on either

1127
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: today or one of the shows I got next week.

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Speaker 1: And I saw this headline about these meta ray ban

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Speaker 1: AI glasses that and I didn't know the AI glasses

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Speaker 1: were still a thing. I remember that I went to

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01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: a couple of doctor's appointments a few years ago and

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01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 1: he said, and I walk in and he's got these

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01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: funny looking glasses on. I said, doc, when you start

1134
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: wearing glasses? And he says, oh, there are AI glasses,

1135
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,959
Speaker 1: And he said, I got to ask if you're okay

1136
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: with me wearing these things. I don't care. I don't

1137
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Speaker 1: I don't know what you're doing with those things on.

1138
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: But it turns out that that these ai glasses are recording.

1139
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: In the headline said the AI glasses are recording people

1140
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: in their most private moments and the data is getting

1141
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Speaker 1: sent to Kenya. And I'm thinking, no, I said this

1142
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 1: is this got Dave had it written all over it. Uh,

1143
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: First of all, what is a meta ray band Ai glasses?

1144
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: And why the heck are they sending my my personal

1145
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: information and naked pictures of me to to Kenya, which

1146
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: of course would never happen because I would never have

1147
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: metas ray band Ai glasses.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm going to go from last question

1149
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 3: to first question. Last question, why.

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Speaker 11: Is this happening?

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01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 3: Well, Dan, it's happening because the Internet of things, so

1152
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 3: called smart devices are a privacy and security dumpster fire.

1153
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 3: This is just example number one zu one of why

1154
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 3: the Internet of Things is total garbage, and the more

1155
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 3: of the stuff you have, these these so called smart

1156
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 3: devices are actually quite dumb and almost every instance they're

1157
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 3: a privacy and security dumpster fire. People don't know how

1158
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 3: to configure them correctly, they don't know how to update them.

1159
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 3: But more importantly, you keep seeing these kinds of examples

1160
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 3: where because of bad code and or the fact that

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01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 3: there's some sort of functionality they're supposed to provide that

1162
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 3: they need real people to check on tests to make

1163
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 3: sure that it's behaving the way it's supposed to. You

1164
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 3: keep seeing these kind of stories. But before I come so,

1165
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 3: let me ask you for answer your first question. And

1166
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Speaker 3: I want to surf it back into this with another story.

1167
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 3: So these are glasses that Meta hooked up with Luxotica

1168
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Speaker 3: and the ray Ban brand to create. And you know,

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01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 3: they've got cameras and microphones in them. They're connected to

1170
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Speaker 3: the Internet. Do you recall you know, Google originally had

1171
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 3: Google Glass, which didn't really catch on, although it did

1172
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 3: come up with a great term glass hole for the people.

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Speaker 8: That wore them.

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Speaker 3: Uh, and it seems extremely fitting in this particular. You

1175
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 3: go find go find the pick a picture of Zuck

1176
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 3: support from these things to come. He doesn't look like

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01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 3: the biggest glass hole you've ever seen. Might anyhow? These

1178
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 3: you know, first off, they supposedly have a light on

1179
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 3: them that tells you when you're recording. But I mean

1180
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 3: you're walking down the street and or you're in a

1181
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 3: meeting at work, you're sitting in a restaurant, someone's wearing

1182
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:20,439
Speaker 3: these things, they're recording it. There's all kinds of women

1183
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,439
Speaker 3: complaining about this now, which I don't I don't blame

1184
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 3: them a bit. Some freaky dude comes up, but as

1185
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 3: you're recording them. But yeah, to your point that the

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01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 3: news broken the last couple of days, that basically, uh,

1187
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 3: the data that these things are collecting, including yes, people

1188
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 3: on the toilet, people having sex, people who are nude,

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Speaker 3: are showing up out there because this data is being

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Speaker 3: sent to have it processed somewhere, you know, again for

1191
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 3: quality assurance purposes, to make sure the glasses are doing

1192
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 3: what they're supposed to do. And it just goes to

1193
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 3: show you that as we increasingly add these Internet of

1194
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 3: things devices in our society to have cameras and microphones,

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Speaker 3: you are increasingly under surveillance. And even if you trust

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01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 3: the company that makes it, even if you trust that

1197
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 3: they're only going to do whatever their privacy policy in

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01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 3: terms of service say, which is usually an eighty page each,

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Speaker 3: confuse opoly that you can't understand you know, what happens

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Speaker 3: when that data gets leaked to breach. So two quick points, Dan,

1201
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 3: for we run out of time. Last week, another story

1202
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 3: broke it was in Popular Science a software engineered by

1203
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 3: a robotic vacuum sweeper. Chinese made two thousand dollars robotic

1204
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 3: vacuum sweeper. Besides, it would cool if he could control

1205
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 3: it with his video game controller. Now this is a

1206
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 3: technical guy, right. He starts tacking into it and realizes

1207
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 3: that the software inside it that makes it work has

1208
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 3: credentials that allows him to get into the company that

1209
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 3: makes it server, and he can control seven thousand of

1210
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 3: these things. Seven thousand microphones and cameras are visible to him.

1211
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 3: Now this is just a guy hacking around. Imagine a

1212
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 3: nation state actor like China and a serial situation taking

1213
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 3: over devices like this to spy on American citizens, And

1214
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 3: this sounds far affetched. Except it was also reported when

1215
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 3: Operation Epic Fury started that the Israelis took over the

1216
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 3: surveillance cameras in Iran and used them to target things,

1217
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 3: and Russia has done the same thing in Ukraine. So

1218
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 3: we just keep adding all of this stuff in. It's

1219
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 3: inherently insecure. It's almost all complete garbage. Doesn't care about

1220
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 3: your privacy, doesn't care about your security. In fact, if anything,

1221
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 3: usually the opposite. They're trying to collect as much data

1222
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 3: about you as possible in this stuff, and we just

1223
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 3: keep adding more and more and more of it. Unfortunately,

1224
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,600
Speaker 3: so I'm, as you can probably tell, I'm not a

1225
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 3: fan of the medaglasses. The backlash that has hit in

1226
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 3: the past few days. People should go see this for

1227
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 3: themselves and understand that, you know, if you're around someone

1228
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 3: that has these on, you are potentially being recorded without

1229
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 3: your consent. Now again, I'm not an attorney, but you know,

1230
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 3: do you really have reasonable expectation of privacy in public?

1231
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 2: Well?

1232
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 3: Maybe, but I know I don't want to be recorded

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01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 3: by the dude next to me in some restaurant in

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01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 3: these glasses.

1235
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm looking at a headline right here calls them the

1236
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:07,560
Speaker 1: pervert glasses, So I don't want any part of that.

1237
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 3: The trust has hit in the last few days on

1238
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:11,799
Speaker 3: these glasses.

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01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 2: It's just as.

1240
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 3: Crushing for meta and it's I'm hoping that people as

1241
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 3: this bad press about these kind of devices keeps coming out,

1242
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 3: people are going to finally wake up and realize, like

1243
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 3: the nast thing in the guntry case, Dan, I mean,

1244
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 3: while in this one case there's some potential upside of that,

1245
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 3: Oh well, she doesn't have a subscription, we can't retrieve

1246
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 3: the data. Ten days later, the so called deleted data.

1247
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 2: Boom, they got it.

1248
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 1: Imagine that. How did that happen? Yeah? Well, hopefully the

1249
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 1: folks in Kenya will be staring at a lot of

1250
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 1: video from the inside of a garbage bin before too long.

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01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 3: I hope.

1252
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: How much static can you get off of that? All right,

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01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 1: Dave had it, We're gonna have to leave it there,

1254
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 1: my friend. As always, I appreciate the time, appreciate the insight,

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01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 1: and don't wear the RABA and metaglasses.

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01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 3: Don't be a glass.

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Speaker 1: Dave hadda, you're the best on seven hundred W l

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01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 1: W right back on the big one, seven hundred W

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Speaker 1: l W eight eleven, Dan Carroll and for Jason Williams.

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01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 1: We rolled till nine tonight and I got to welcome

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Speaker 1: in my my buddy from Anderson Township one time Anderson

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01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 1: Township trustee, and from back from the tea party days,

1263
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 1: my buddy Andrew Papps. Remember those days, Carroll, the tea

1264
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: party that was fun, wasn't it.

1265
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 2: Seemed like a lifetime ago? Dan Carroll?

1266
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 1: Were you being denied a certain tax status by the

1267
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 1: Obama I r s back at that time.

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Speaker 8: You know what, I do have some friends that were

1269
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 8: we were We did not try. They were as you remember,

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01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 8: and people forget those days, don't they Where the I

1271
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 8: R S was used as a weapon against individual citizens of.

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Speaker 2: The United States.

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01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 8: That was pretty don't you would you consider that pretty fascistic.

1274
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 1: Behavior back in the day, David, I think you could.

1275
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 1: You can call it that absolutely.

1276
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 2: Beget I don't remember these uh, these young uh.

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01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 8: Miscreants and the time marching in the I don't know

1278
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 8: if they were conceived them, but I mean the ones

1279
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 8: marching in the streets that with the with the blue

1280
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 8: hair and the piercings and the you know, the outrage

1281
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 8: du jour that you know, no no kings or no

1282
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 8: fascists or whatever the case might be. You know, but

1283
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 8: we simply had that. We did have protests. I remember

1284
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 8: I went down to the protested in front of the

1285
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 8: I R. S Building downtown Cincinnati when they were holding

1286
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 8: up the texts, filings and designations for political groups that

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01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 8: wanted to you know, packs and whatnot that wanted to

1288
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 8: organized and uh, the weight of the full weight of

1289
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 8: the federal governments coming down on those individuals, uh badly.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I digress, Did you have a little hey,

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Speaker 1: hey chance going on?

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Speaker 5: You know what?

1293
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 8: I wasn't that hip at the time, And where am

1294
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 8: I now that I had the As you well know,

1295
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 8: I did not have the little You know, leftists are

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Speaker 8: really good at that. They take a little uh saying and.

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Speaker 2: They over and over repeat it, and usually.

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Speaker 8: It's what, let's be fair, usually it's three or four

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Speaker 8: words or variations thereof, because their mental capacity is diminished.

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Speaker 2: But we can't make it too complicated.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, but did you did you look at

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Speaker 1: the uh? The email that I sent you earlier today

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Speaker 1: was a link to a piece in the Daily Wire talking.

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Speaker 2: About when you when you give me homework? I jump

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Speaker 2: on it immediately. I stopped what I was doing, which was.

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Speaker 8: Helping an older couple across the street. I left them

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Speaker 8: in the median and then I went promptly. That went promptly,

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Speaker 8: I went promptly. I hope they got.

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Speaker 2: Across from it. Did happen? I have video I took.

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Speaker 2: I took pictures with my meta glasses.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, if there's any one I

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Speaker 1: know that owns a pair of meta glasses and could

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Speaker 1: be described as a glasshole, it's this guy, Andrew.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I thought I saw a certain picture of me that

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Speaker 8: was that was disparaged on social media.

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Speaker 2: Today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what they're going to do with

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Speaker 1: it there.

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Speaker 8: I don't know either.

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Speaker 2: I don't you know, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 8: But anyhow, you know, back in the day, I mean

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Speaker 8: I did, I did.

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 8: To your question, Yes, I did review the article that

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Speaker 8: you sent me, and I did some more digging on it.

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Speaker 8: And I have to say, I don't know your position.

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Speaker 8: And what we're talking about here is we're talking about

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Speaker 8: some videos that the White House has released, yes, that

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Speaker 8: have been been described as making light of war and

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Speaker 8: and bombings and missile strikes and whatnot. And I have

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Speaker 8: to say, I mean as a completely and utterly you

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Speaker 8: know me, I am.

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Speaker 11: I call that.

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Speaker 8: Balls and strikes right down the middle. I am not

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Speaker 8: a partisan person. I cannot be described as a hyper

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Speaker 8: partisan person. I think I can be described as everyman USA,

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Speaker 8: John Q, public, Joe sixpack.

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Speaker 2: But just not my stomach. But at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, my.

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Speaker 8: My my take on it was, I do find you

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Speaker 8: know what, I will say this, Look, I'm one for

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Speaker 8: having fun, you know me.

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Speaker 2: I'm a goofball. I don't really take life too.

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Speaker 8: Seriously, but I have to say that I think that

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Speaker 8: there is some some Let's be honest. We live in

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Speaker 8: a world of politics, we live in a world of perceptions,

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Speaker 8: and I don't think it serves us if we take

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Speaker 8: you know, the seriousness of what's going on over there

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Speaker 8: in Iran, which which is what is today?

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Speaker 2: A week plus one? I believe, I think it was

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Speaker 2: last Friday.

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Speaker 1: I think it's I think we're one week to the day,

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Speaker 1: to the to the day, I believe or no, whether

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Speaker 1: it was last Saturday morning we got yeah, so we're

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Speaker 1: we're a week.

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Speaker 8: It's one week today, and I do not Here's here's

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Speaker 8: my take on it. I don't want, first of all,

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Speaker 8: I think to answer your question. I did read the article,

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Speaker 8: and I think that it has some so it can

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Speaker 8: it can be said to be semi I think the

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Speaker 8: article is I think that the article would want to

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Speaker 8: be slammed.

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Speaker 2: I don't trust.

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Speaker 8: I mean, call me jaded, but you know, a professional

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Speaker 8: journalist nowadays, I have a hard time trusting ninety nine

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Speaker 8: point nine percent of them because they all have biases

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Speaker 8: that they try to hide into their articles, and most

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Speaker 8: of them skew from the left, not all the most.

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Speaker 8: And I will say this, I do think that there

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Speaker 8: is some credence to the argument to be made that

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Speaker 8: you know, it is not probably good form and not

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Speaker 8: definitely something to be made light up do I do?

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Speaker 8: I will I chuckle at some of the things that

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Speaker 8: I don't know that I've seen, the ones that they

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Speaker 8: reference there in the article. But I don't think it

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Speaker 8: serves our purpose to put clips from video games in

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Speaker 8: White House Press releases.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think it.

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Speaker 8: Serves our purpose to make things into a game when

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Speaker 8: we're talking about at the end of the day, whether

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Speaker 8: we agree or disagree, there are human lives being lost

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Speaker 8: in these strikes. And I will say this, I did share,

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Speaker 8: and I did see. I was not enamored, that's not

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Speaker 8: the right word, but I was intrigued by the first

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Speaker 8: ship sinking by a submarine by torpedo since World War Two.

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Speaker 8: I thought that was interesting. I thought it was something

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Speaker 8: to witness. But you know, a lot of Iranian lives

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Speaker 8: were lost on that ship, and that is something to

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Speaker 8: keep in mind. Because I think that we are a

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Speaker 8: week into this conflict, if you can call it that,

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Speaker 8: it seems to be quite one sided. If you would

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Speaker 8: have told me two months ago that the Trump administration

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Speaker 8: was able to strike Iran decisively and bring about the

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Speaker 8: almost collapse of their I mean, I don't know who

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Speaker 8: the new Iatola of the day is, but I can

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Speaker 8: tell you this, I feel sorry for whoever they appoint

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Speaker 8: the new Idola because his lifespan seems to be really short.

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Speaker 8: Given what the Israelis are doing, and they have they

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Speaker 8: have been, we have taken the gloves off. It seems

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Speaker 8: like we're doing a military operation with the intent to win,

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Speaker 8: and win decisively and win quickly. And if you were

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Speaker 8: to say ask me, well, is the world at the

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Speaker 8: end of this conflict? Is the world a safer place?

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Speaker 8: I would say I think that. You know, I think

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Speaker 8: that if you asked one hundred people, ninety five percent

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01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 8: of them would have to say completely honestly that a

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Speaker 8: pro Western or at least a non radicalized Iran with

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Speaker 8: not the intentions of procuring nuclear weapons and then, by

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Speaker 8: by their own admission, using them against Israel and or

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Speaker 8: the United States. I think that is a world is

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Speaker 8: a safer place, and we have a real opportunity here.

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Speaker 8: I'm not saying it's done.

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Speaker 2: I know it's not. I'm not naive, but.

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Speaker 8: You know, the Kurds are marching into parts of Iran.

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Speaker 8: The former prince has said he will go and form

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Speaker 8: an interim government to a peaceful transition to some sort

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01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:33,879
Speaker 8: of democracy in Iran, which was, you know, unlike Iraq.

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Speaker 8: Let's be clear, Iran is not Iraq. Iran was before

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Speaker 8: the Iatolas to go over, a very westernized, a very

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Speaker 8: pro western. And I think that that if that can

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Speaker 8: be brought back, I think the world definitely is a

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Speaker 8: safer place, a much safer place, and I am grateful

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Speaker 8: for that because that piece that will last for generations.

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Speaker 8: I think the kicking the can down on the road

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Speaker 8: with the Iran problem by the past how many presidents

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Speaker 8: has not served us well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think a world with the Iotola Kamani

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Speaker 1: no longer in it is a better world. And the videos,

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Speaker 1: I just find it a little quite distasteful. I just look,

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Speaker 1: I've got no problem with viewing videos of our magnificent

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Speaker 1: weapons blowing up trucks and blowing up air bases and

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01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:30,799
Speaker 1: blowing up aircraft and blowing up ships and missile launchers

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01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:32,600
Speaker 1: and all the rest of it. I can watch that

1435
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: stuff all day long. But when you belittle that that

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Speaker 1: notion of war and the series of war by putting

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Speaker 1: interspersing it with clips of you know, Grand Theft Auto

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01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 1: and SpongeBob and movie clips from Braveheart and some of

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01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,719
Speaker 1: these other movies. I mean, nothing wrong with the movies,

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Speaker 1: but I just think it sort of takes the wrong approach,

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01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 1: and it really I think it's uncalled for. I'd be

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01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 1: interested to know if Trump's lined off on this and.

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01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 8: Well, you know, with with with the and and let's

1444
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 8: be fair, if he didn't, the person that did should

1445
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 8: be promptly and summarily replaced, because it's we've made such progress,

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Speaker 8: as we've discussed here tonight, and and and everyone can

1447
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 8: agree with what has was done in Venezuela, which now

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Speaker 8: has a very pro Western bent to it, much to

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01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 8: the chagrin of China, much to the dismay of Cuba,

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01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 8: which is hanging on by its fingernails. Don't ask me

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01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 8: how we have a real, real opportunity to change the

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01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 8: face of this planet under this president in the first year,

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01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 8: in the first year of his administration, with with another

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01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 8: you know, ten months till the midterms or whatever the

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Speaker 8: case may be.

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Speaker 2: Thereabouts. My point is, let's not act, you know, act

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01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 2: like you've been here, play like like this.

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01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:51,679
Speaker 8: The old saying is play like you've been there.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, I mean you.

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Speaker 8: Let's not be sophomoric in those regards.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like this is something. Now, look, let's

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01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 2: be fair. Dan, there's you and I will create.

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Speaker 8: For some unknown reason to the both of us, much

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01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 8: to our dismay, there's some people out there that don't

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01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 8: like Donald Trump. I'm shocked by that, understand and there

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01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,560
Speaker 8: are some just like there's some people out there that

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01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 8: don't like me. I don't understand it. However, at the

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Speaker 8: end of the day, I think we are in a

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Speaker 8: better place, and I don't think it serves us well

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Speaker 8: to act sophomoric like that. And I agree with every word.

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Speaker 2: That you just said.

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Speaker 8: I think we should be you know we are, you know,

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01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 8: display our might, display our prowess, display the progress that

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01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 8: we've made, the training that these professional men and women

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Speaker 8: have gone through, to the results that they're getting. But

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Speaker 8: there's no reason to intersperse with you know, movie clips,

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01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 8: or or even theme songs or anything to that nature.

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01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 8: I just would I don't think it's necessary and I

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01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:57,599
Speaker 8: think it just plays to the other side. I saw

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Speaker 8: James Carvell. I don't know if you saw James Carvell

1481
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 8: had an absolute complete meltdown on social media.

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01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 5: I see it.

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01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 1: That's a video I'm not able to play on the

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01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:13,600
Speaker 1: air because oh it's a bit. Language is a bit.

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Speaker 1: It'll probably show up on a podcast I know about,

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01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 1: but I was not going not going to be played here,

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01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 1: especially over the air on seven hundred WLW. Did you

1488
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,600
Speaker 1: hear what Joe Biden said to the crowd at the

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Speaker 1: Jesse Jackson funeral.

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Speaker 8: I heard several things that were said at the at

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Speaker 8: the Jesse Jess and Jesse Jackson.

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Speaker 2: I think it was more was it an actual funeral?

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01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 2: Was to remember it?

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01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 1: General eulogy? I remember whatever you want to call it.

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Speaker 2: Russ wake, I'm not sure. Russ.

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01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 1: We very quickly here. Let me let me run this

1497
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Speaker 1: for you, and Russ if we could hear cut number

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Speaker 1: four please.

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Speaker 16: If I told you all earlier, when I was a kid,

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Speaker 16: I had a cleft palette or club foot, not even

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01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 16: to laugh, but it's okay to laughtuttering. I'm not being

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01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 16: critical of you, but think about it. It's the one

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01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 16: place for people think you're stupid. Oh really, hell a

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01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 16: lot smarter.

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01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 1: Most of me?

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Speaker 11: So kidding high.

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Speaker 1: So this is supposed to be a eulogy for Jesse Jackson,

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01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 1: and Joe Biden has to go and speak to this

1509
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 1: largely black crowd and by saying I'm smarter than most

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01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 1: than than all the rest of you, I don't tell

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01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 1: did he tell it?

1512
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 3: Did he did? He did?

1513
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 2: He did?

1514
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 8: He follow up with like the great Gavin Newsom and

1515
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 8: give his SAT score.

1516
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 2: I didn't. I don't think I heard that.

1517
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 1: It's hey, Joe Biden goes his own way, he carves

1518
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 1: his own path.

1519
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 8: I will say this, that's probably, let's be fair, that's

1520
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 8: probably the most lucid that I've heard Joe Biden speak,

1521
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 8: and over what.

1522
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, what he never think about.

1523
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 5: But.

1524
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 1: Talked about on this radio stage. Go back and look

1525
01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 1: at some of the clips of when he was in

1526
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 1: the Senate and when he was on shows and when

1527
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 1: he was when all this other stuff. I didn't detect

1528
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 1: any stutter. Then he was perfectly lucid, perfectly clear, perfectly

1529
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 1: easy to understand. He was advocating a lot of what

1530
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:18,600
Speaker 1: people would call today conservative positions back then, but there

1531
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 1: was no stuttering involvement.

1532
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 8: He doesn't have a stuttering problems. He has a cognition. Yeah, bro, Joe,

1533
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 8: Joe Biden doesn't stutter. Joe Biden loses his train of

1534
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 8: thought and forgets where he is. So for him now

1535
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 8: to blame his mental deficiency on some sort of speech

1536
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 8: impediment is sad and a weak attempt to somehow resurrect.

1537
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:42,680
Speaker 8: I mean, is he trying to find funding still for

1538
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 8: his presidential library.

1539
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 2: I don't even know where it'll be built.

1540
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 8: I guess Delaware perhaps, But I mean I heard that

1541
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 8: he's unable to even raise the money to to to

1542
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 8: And don't get me started on these presidential libraries, because

1543
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 8: that's a whole other subject to you and I.

1544
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 1: But I mean a day Obama put out the invites

1545
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 1: for people to come see his presidential life, did you

1546
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 1: get one?

1547
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 8: I I'll check the mail.

1548
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 1: Check the mail, all right, you go check.

1549
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 8: Give as much money as I didn't give as much money.

1550
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 1: As you did, so I doubt rather that's right, all right,

1551
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:12,720
Speaker 1: you go check the mail. And we got to run

1552
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:16,719
Speaker 1: papas has always man. I appreciate the time, good stuff today.

1553
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 8: Don't think, don't think I'll forget about the doctored photo

1554
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 8: that I saw and we will be speaking soon.

1555
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 1: Papas see you later. Thanks buddy, our buddy, Andrew Pappis

1556
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 1: eight twenty six. We got to get to a break

1557
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 1: and your phone calls five one, three, seven four, nine,

1558
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 1: seven thousand one, eight hundred the Big One on seven

1559
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 1: hundred WLW, seven hundred WLW.

1560
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 11: Eight thirty nine.

1561
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:46,680
Speaker 1: Dan Carroll, come down the home stretch. I want to

1562
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:50,719
Speaker 1: thank my guest tonight, Dave Hatter, the judge, Kurt Hartman,

1563
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 1: and my buddy Andrew Pappis. Great fun there, Well that

1564
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:58,679
Speaker 1: was fun. Oh I like that a whole lot. Oh

1565
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:00,680
Speaker 1: let's go ahead. What are we gonna do? Should we get?

1566
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 1: How about how about some phone calls? How about that?

1567
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 1: A couple of phone calls? Five one, three, seven four nine,

1568
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 1: seven thousand and one, eight hundred the Big One. And

1569
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 1: it looks like Dan and Cheviot has been hanging around

1570
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 1: the longest. Dan seven hundred WLW. How's it going, man?

1571
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 2: Hey, better than it should be. Brother, It's been.

1572
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 1: Been a while since I've heard from you. Where you been.

1573
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 13: Well, I told you I work a job in a sidehost,

1574
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 13: so when I'm a dad man, I don't got much time,

1575
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 13: but I'm hearing you on Saturday night, so I'm enjoying it.

1576
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate it. I've been and thank and thank

1577
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 1: you for what you do.

1578
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 2: Man.

1579
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 1: You're making all of us look good out there, because

1580
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 1: uh hey, you got to you gotta do what you're

1581
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 1: doing what needs to be done. And I appreciate that.

1582
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 2: Well heck yeah, you know.

1583
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 13: But uh, I want to I've been in technology sales.

1584
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 13: It will be about twenty years here in October, all right.

1585
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 13: I like technology sales. And I listened to Dave Hatter.

1586
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 13: I just want to say, I really enjoy it.

1587
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 1: So fantastic day. And we were talking earlier David, I

1588
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 1: go back to the nineties, uh days. He used to

1589
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 1: come on the show all the time and we talk

1590
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 1: about technology stuff and and I think, uh, he might

1591
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 1: have been around when we first started doing emails. Dave,

1592
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:12,719
Speaker 1: what's his email stuff?

1593
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 13: Okay, what I like about Dave is he thinks like

1594
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 13: a geek, but he talks regular. That's how I relate

1595
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:21,840
Speaker 13: to my customers. Okay, he thinks like a geek, but

1596
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 13: he talks regular. But what I want to do is,

1597
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 13: I think there's a couple of segments you should do

1598
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 13: on your shows on the midweek crisis with them. Okay,

1599
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:31,679
Speaker 13: you need to cover you need to cover elderly scams

1600
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 13: because older people don't get online and TikTok, but they

1601
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 13: do listen to WLW and the way he talks and

1602
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 13: how bad it's been getting. Like I would like to

1603
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 13: see like something maybe you guys do like an elderly

1604
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 13: scam thing.

1605
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 1: Do you have an example of one off the top

1606
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:48,599
Speaker 1: of your head?

1607
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 13: Oh, like your son, the AI, your spongs in jail

1608
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 13: to pay money. Yeah, you know what I mean, because

1609
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:58,680
Speaker 13: I have people all the time that come in with

1610
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 13: computers that are compromised, and it's really sad because they're

1611
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 13: older and they thought they were helping their grandson or

1612
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 13: doing something. And unfortunately people that are older are more

1613
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 13: chemically open to scams because they get older and more trusting.

1614
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 13: The old guy that used to pay the driveway and

1615
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 13: rip off the old lady on the porch and pay

1616
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 13: for materials up the front has now digital.

1617
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 1: That's okay, you know what, That's an excellent way of

1618
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 1: putting it because that as it happens all the time.

1619
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 1: And I know I know of a couple of people

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01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 1: personally who had their either mothers or grandparents who were

1621
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 1: actually in the bank withdrawing money from their accounts so

1622
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 1: they could buy the gift cards or send it to whoever.

1623
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 1: And it was actually the teller at the bank reached

1624
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 1: out and called them. They're like, hey, look, your mother's here,

1625
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 1: you know, withdrawing you know, eight or nine or ten

1626
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 1: thousand dollars from her account, and you know, just to

1627
01:28:57,680 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 1: you know, just want to make check up on this

1628
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 1: and make sure this is legit. So you're right, that

1629
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 1: is something that happens quite a bit.

1630
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 13: So what you need to do is do a segment

1631
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 13: with him and then call it the technology Buddy system.

1632
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 13: Your daughter that comes over and helps you a laundry

1633
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 13: and takes you the store, your son that's good with technology,

1634
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 13: you know, whoever's better in your family at what they do,

1635
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 13: you know what I mean. So I think that would

1636
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 13: be a good segment to help people. Because WLW the

1637
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 13: radio community, they still a lot of them still tune in,

1638
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 13: so I.

1639
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:28,599
Speaker 2: Think that would help.

1640
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 11: All right.

1641
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 13: I also want you to do one more segment with

1642
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 13: them on digital money and how that will affect the future,

1643
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 13: because you know you're conservative and you have a.

1644
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 2: Lot of political views.

1645
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 13: He has a lot of computer views, so I think

1646
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 13: together you could help a lot of people. I want

1647
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 13: to give a shout out to Dave and let him

1648
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 13: know I prefer in business because there's a lot of

1649
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 13: jokers out there, but the way he talks.

1650
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 2: He's good.

1651
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:52,600
Speaker 1: All right, Dan, I appreciate that. Thanks for listening, and

1652
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 1: have a great weekend. All right, there you go. That

1653
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 1: was Dan and Chevy. Let's go to Columbus and say

1654
01:29:57,439 --> 01:30:01,759
Speaker 1: hey to Kevin. Kevin seven hundred ww Well I would agree.

1655
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:03,599
Speaker 7: With that last color and that was a great guest

1656
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 7: you had on the Dave had or you know, and

1657
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 7: he's on other times, but and I want to say

1658
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 7: something about what you had on an hour ago.

1659
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 11: Are you talking about the war in Iran?

1660
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 7: And basically you had Glenn from Mason or Ken from

1661
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:20,720
Speaker 7: Mason whatever he's talked about that. Well, you know, you

1662
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 7: just have to kill them all. And this is a

1663
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 7: basic war between East and West, or Christian world and

1664
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:31,639
Speaker 7: Muslim world. And of course we can't do that, that's

1665
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 7: just not politically feasible. But remember when Russia had the

1666
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:38,880
Speaker 7: war with Chechnya, which was basically the same thing they did.

1667
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 7: Chechenia's Muslim and Russia is West or Christian and because

1668
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:46,680
Speaker 7: the terrorist attacks member it was before two thousand and

1669
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 7: one and a Russian commander said the only way he

1670
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 7: said what Glenn Mason from Mason said, the only way

1671
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 7: that sentens is you have to kill everyone except small children,

1672
01:30:56,000 --> 01:31:00,240
Speaker 7: because it's ingrained in their culture. The Muslim war world

1673
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:03,000
Speaker 7: of hate the West, kill the West. Some are more

1674
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:06,439
Speaker 7: extreme than others. But I don't know how you solve it.

1675
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:10,599
Speaker 7: But the Muslim world in the Christian world or can't

1676
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 7: seem to coexist, you know historically.

1677
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 1: Well and well, you know what kind of culture straps

1678
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 1: bombs to little kids and has them walk into the

1679
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 1: enemy and and uh and tries to convince their parents

1680
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:28,080
Speaker 1: that it's a glorious thing to turn your kid into

1681
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 1: a martyr and the and these are these are the

1682
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 1: kind of horrific things that happen, that happen all the time.

1683
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:41,800
Speaker 1: And then you've got you know, I know, it's it's

1684
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 1: but where there are so many, so many instances where

1685
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:48,200
Speaker 1: we're not supposed to be able to look at that

1686
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 1: and point that out as being wrong or something.

1687
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:54,200
Speaker 7: Well, then we're evil and know we're evil, and we

1688
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 7: hate it. Why is it always the West and the

1689
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 7: white people in the West is evil and the rest

1690
01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:03,440
Speaker 7: of them are somehow I don't know, righteous or oppressed.

1691
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 1: And well, I think that's what a lot of a

1692
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 1: lot of these young people who are protesting this want

1693
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:11,559
Speaker 1: to act as if evil doesn't exist, and it does exist,

1694
01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 1: and you have to confront it where wherever it is.

1695
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:19,720
Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the things that that

1696
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 1: Trump has that a lot of other presidents didn't have.

1697
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:25,639
Speaker 1: That they are willing to call out evil where it exists,

1698
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:29,080
Speaker 1: and in this instance, they're they're ready to confront it,

1699
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:33,640
Speaker 1: not with just uh negotiations, They're willing to confront it

1700
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 1: with action and that.

1701
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 7: Right, they only understand that, you know, the West America

1702
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 7: and the West in general better do something or we're

1703
01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 7: going to be wiped out or disappear.

1704
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:47,960
Speaker 12: You know.

1705
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 1: You know, Kevin, I think you make a good point.

1706
01:32:54,200 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 1: And thank you very much, Kevin in Columbus, and I

1707
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:04,880
Speaker 1: appreciate his phone call. Let's get one more. We got

1708
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 1: Wes Union and this is our old buddy, Steve. Steve,

1709
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 1: how you doing tonight?

1710
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:12,760
Speaker 2: They had better day of Danny. How are you.

1711
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear your voice. It's been a little while.

1712
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:20,280
Speaker 2: I've been having some tests with the doctors and stuff.

1713
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 5: I've been going doing Sterling and everyboy and telling all

1714
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:27,479
Speaker 5: the guys out there to get their PSA for Evan's sakes.

1715
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 5: And they found something wrong with me. And now I

1716
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 5: got prostate cancer. So I don't know what to do

1717
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:37,920
Speaker 5: about that.

1718
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 1: Well, you got to get it treated, got to do

1719
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:41,719
Speaker 1: the treatment.

1720
01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1721
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 5: The good thing is a disabled veteran and from eighty

1722
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:53,280
Speaker 5: three in Labanon, and they'll take care of it.

1723
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:54,200
Speaker 2: They'll take care of me.

1724
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 5: I don't care one way or the other, actually, Dan,

1725
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:00,720
Speaker 5: but I just wanted to tell folks out there to

1726
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 5: look after themselves, especially the guys, and look after themselves

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01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:05,719
Speaker 5: from the ladies.

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01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. But a good friend of mine died of prostate cancer,

1729
01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 1: but about two years ago, and it was a total shock.

1730
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 1: It was one of those things and I was I

1731
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:20,720
Speaker 1: remember I was actually doing the breast cancer event and

1732
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:24,879
Speaker 1: I was talking to a friend of mine who survived

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01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:29,320
Speaker 1: breast cancer, and I was telling her, I said, you

1734
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:32,760
Speaker 1: know that this buddy of mine passed away from he

1735
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 1: had found out he had prostate cancer and wound up

1736
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 1: killing him. And I was telling her that it's it's

1737
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:42,679
Speaker 1: I kind of think when you think about prostate cancer,

1738
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:46,439
Speaker 1: it's something that almost every man at some point, I've

1739
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:49,080
Speaker 1: been told, is going to be diagnosed with prostate cancer.

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01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 1: And if you catch it early, it's something that can

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01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:53,639
Speaker 1: be treated. It's something to be that can be cured

1742
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:56,280
Speaker 1: and you can go on to have a perfectly normal,

1743
01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:59,800
Speaker 1: healthy life. And I was telling her, when it comes

1744
01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 1: to breast cancer, we have this one notion that, Okay,

1745
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 1: we know so much about it. Women get breast cancer

1746
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 1: survivors all over the place, and when you hear someone

1747
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:11,759
Speaker 1: actually dying from breast cancer, it seems like it's a shock.

1748
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:15,280
Speaker 1: But it's a cancer, is cancer, and you get it.

1749
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:17,799
Speaker 1: You got to treat it because they ain't gonna fix itself.

1750
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna.

1751
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take good care of it and look after it.

1752
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:23,560
Speaker 2: And I'll let you guys know.

1753
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 1: That's not why I called all right, what'd you call it?

1754
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:26,760
Speaker 3: Well?

1755
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 5: In nineteen eighty and eighty one, I was stationed with

1756
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 5: V one in Key West. During that time, three s

1757
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 5: fifty three helicopters came. We refueled them, We took care

1758
01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 5: of the crews. They spent the night in our hangar

1759
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:52,760
Speaker 5: on the other side from the hangar, and.

1760
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:55,759
Speaker 2: Then the next day, after refueling it were gone.

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01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:59,240
Speaker 5: I had no idea what that was, but what that

1762
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 5: was was that crash to try to rescue the hostages

1763
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:14,600
Speaker 5: in Iran. And then not too long after or before that,

1764
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 5: the Marianna's boat left started and one seventy one was

1765
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:25,320
Speaker 5: passed with making sure the cast road didn't send too

1766
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:32,160
Speaker 5: many criminals in our country just to run ramp. After that,

1767
01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:36,920
Speaker 5: shortly after the Marions boat left that I was involved in,

1768
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:42,480
Speaker 5: I was shipped to the Norfolk to a Gator.

1769
01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:44,760
Speaker 2: Davy ship called in Shawn, which was a.

1770
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 5: Flattop for helicopters. Immediately from there right to Lebanon. I

1771
01:36:55,160 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 5: spent the next year getting shot at running sorties. We

1772
01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 5: did over nine thousand aircraft moves in one year and

1773
01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:12,040
Speaker 5: over seven thousand sorties. And that felthy country and their biologicals.

1774
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:17,839
Speaker 5: It's something to me that caused my bow to burst

1775
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:22,520
Speaker 5: within two or three days of being exposed.

1776
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:27,640
Speaker 1: Well that is, Steve, I'll tell you what man, So

1777
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 1: I mean, stuff like that is the kind of stuff

1778
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:32,080
Speaker 1: that most people never ever think about.

1779
01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:35,840
Speaker 5: And then they did some meatball surgery on me.

1780
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:37,479
Speaker 2: So now I got.

1781
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:42,439
Speaker 5: My large bowels missing. It goes straight down. So I'm

1782
01:37:42,439 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 5: in the bathroom all the time. They shipped me to

1783
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:53,320
Speaker 5: Germany place called Wisbaden. Well, they put me in a

1784
01:37:53,479 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 5: room that not weeks before the whole play's bombing. That

1785
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:07,160
Speaker 5: home damn hospital had every one of those Iranian hostages

1786
01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 5: in there for some kind of rehab. Well I noticed

1787
01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:15,439
Speaker 5: on a globe.

1788
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:17,599
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got you've got, you've got a real

1789
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:20,559
Speaker 1: connection all this stuff. But Steve, I think you look man.

1790
01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for the call keep take care

1791
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:25,520
Speaker 1: of yourself.

1792
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:29,400
Speaker 2: And to unpack man. And I'm sorry, that's all right.

1793
01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:33,680
Speaker 2: So I just wanted everybody to know, take care of themselves.

1794
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 1: So Steve, I appreciate that. That's a good message for tonight.

1795
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 1: Take care of yourself.

1796
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:39,800
Speaker 2: Got to do that.

1797
01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:44,880
Speaker 1: Steve's been through the ringer, and UH wish him, Uh

1798
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 1: nothing but the best. Uh what else we got? Trump's

1799
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:53,719
Speaker 1: got a good favorability rating, multiple polls showing that Trump's

1800
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:58,599
Speaker 1: approval rating within the party is higher than any other

1801
01:38:58,680 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 1: president in history. Republicans loved Donald Trump more than any

1802
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:07,320
Speaker 1: president's own party supporters loved him at this particular point,

1803
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:15,840
Speaker 1: said CNN's Harry Enton the poll, which found that at

1804
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:18,639
Speaker 1: this point in the second term, Trump's GOP approval sits

1805
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:24,040
Speaker 1: at a remarkable eighty six percent, while former President Barack

1806
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:27,200
Speaker 1: Obama and George W. Bush were both at seventy seven

1807
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 1: percent strong approval within their own parties. Strong approval within

1808
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:37,240
Speaker 1: their own parties is now fifty three percent for Trump,

1809
01:39:37,560 --> 01:39:40,720
Speaker 1: higher than Obama and Bush, whose strong approval ratings were

1810
01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:46,560
Speaker 1: forty eight and forty seven percent. So good numbers for

1811
01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:49,320
Speaker 1: Trump and all the stuff you're going to hear about

1812
01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:53,000
Speaker 1: how he's he's losing his own party, losing his base

1813
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:56,240
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. Don't believe. With that,

1814
01:39:56,439 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 1: I got to get out of here. Thank you so

1815
01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:01,800
Speaker 1: much for listening. Russ Jack, thank you for everything. Have

1816
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:03,600
Speaker 1: a great rest of your weekend. I'm back in on

1817
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 1: Monday for Sloan and I'm looking forward to that. In

1818
01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 1: the meantime, Donna d is going to be in here

1819
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:11,160
Speaker 1: in a little bit and she will have you at

1820
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:13,640
Speaker 1: nine to midnight, So stick around for Donna de and

1821
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Speaker 1: we'll see you next time on the Home of the

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Speaker 1: Red seven hundred WLW