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Speaker 1: Bart for a long time. We've had him on many

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Speaker 1: times before. Welcome back to the program, John Carney. It's

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Speaker 1: always a pleasure to have and you want to appreciate

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: Am I staring at a at a good news on

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Speaker 1: the topic list, I mean, what price of gas and oil?

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump just tweeted the other day about forty three

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Speaker 1: states having gas under three dollars per gallon. Before we

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Speaker 1: started talking, I just went over to gas Buddy my

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Speaker 1: personal zip code gas about between two o nine and

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Speaker 1: two forty two in the city proper the zip code

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Speaker 1: for the city of Cincinnati two seventy nine, and then

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Speaker 1: I just randomly chose Middletown, which is you know, between

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Speaker 1: haven't seen prices like that for many, many years. That

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Speaker 1: is an outstanding development and immediate relief in terms of

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Speaker 1: the inflationary pressures we're talking about.

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Speaker 2: John, your take, Yeah, that's absolutely right. I drove the

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Speaker 2: other day just to a local gas station and I

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Speaker 2: two forty nine. And I thought, Okay, this is an amazing.

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Speaker 3: Development because we have, as you said, it mechanically actually

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Speaker 3: forces down inflation in large part because the gasoline is

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Speaker 3: and oil fuel energy in general is a large part

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Speaker 2: But also everything we touch has petroleum in it, and

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Speaker 2: so and or is shipped with gasoline. So you have

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Speaker 2: you know, whether it's food coming on trucks, whether it

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Speaker 2: is the you know, plastics that we're buying everything. I

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Speaker 2: was on Larry Tudlow's television show the other day and

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Speaker 2: he was pointing out that his glasses are made of petroleum.

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Speaker 2: Keeap oil. Cheap gasoline is a way of getting everything

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Speaker 2: less expensive in our lives.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and one can only hope, but also maybe perhaps

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Speaker 1: presume on some level that the price that we passed

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Speaker 1: and if they're going to save some money in terms

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Speaker 1: to ship the goods, I would think that's an easy

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Speaker 2: Right, And it's not just out of the goodness of

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Speaker 2: so when Walmart's costs go down, they can lower the

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Speaker 2: that you do get these costs start to come down.

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Speaker 2: And I also just think it will help people psychologically.

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Speaker 2: Gasoline is one of those prices that we all see

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Speaker 2: I think it adds a lot of saliens for people,

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Speaker 1: Well, and I guess there's a compounding factor. You know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So a couple of things. One, at the price

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Speaker 2: not necessarily even less regulation, but more confident regulation. Look,

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Speaker 2: the Biden administration didn't want it to be easy, and

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Speaker 2: They actually wanted to drive up the price because that

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Speaker 2: but it can come lower and once we get the

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Speaker 2: I think Exon Mobil has been very hesitant about going in.

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Speaker 2: I understand that you got burned once the commys seasons

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Speaker 2: this stuff. You're you're worried. But smaller guys actually are.

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Speaker 2: We are eager. They want to go in. They say, look,

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Speaker 2: this is an investible opportunity. And is it risk free? No,

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Speaker 2: But you know a lot of these do they call

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Speaker 1: Well, I have always been convinced that taking plant food

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Speaker 1: At least we used to this whole idea that they

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Speaker 1: because gas a lien had been artificially increased in price.

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Speaker 1: So you're competing with an artificially increased price product that

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Speaker 2: So that's absolutely right, and you got the really perverting

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Speaker 2: You can need the environmentalists, this is what they say

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Speaker 2: they wanted to do. You subsidize the energy they like,

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Speaker 2: And that was actually but the problem is you can't

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Speaker 1: No, of course not. And of course with artificial intelligence

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Speaker 2: It's actually been a great development. Not intentional, but this

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Speaker 1: Well, they have to advocate that for their own survival. Finally,

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Speaker 1: the right side of thinking, which is, no carbon dioxide

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Speaker 2: So right now, the economy is growing very rapidly, and

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Speaker 2: We want non inflationary growth. And by the way, wages

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Speaker 2: Will never not you not have risks to the economy.

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Speaker 2: But the economy is doing well right now, and I

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Speaker 1: Three things that Democrats seem to have going into the

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Speaker 1: November election. You got healthcare and the subsidies, you got inflation,

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Speaker 1: and of course I suppose in the immigration situation, what

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Speaker 1: side are you on getting rid of these evil people

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Speaker 1: John Carney from Breitbart's going to be reporting on all

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Speaker 1: of it. Breitbart dot comsy find John and the crew. John,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining me on the program

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Speaker 1: this morning. It's always a pleasure having you on and

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Speaker 1: for my listeners and me. Keep up the great workover

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Speaker 1: at Breitbart.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, and looking forward to being.

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Speaker 1: On again, looking forward to it already, my friend, have

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