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He made that announcement last week. 21 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: He had I think he said they were at a 22 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: weekend wedding I think in flow Rider somewhere. So he's 23 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 2: out of town until tomorrow, so he will join us then. 24 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:23,279 Speaker 2: But we'll get through it one way or another. Tammy, 25 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: you just have provided me with his story from Sportsboom 26 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:31,279 Speaker 2: dot us Slash NFL Slash exclusive Jason Locke and fora 27 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: he's he's plugged in. Yes, he's kind of one of 28 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: those uh yeah, who's the guy on on Jay Glazer. 29 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: He's got a little bit of uh Adam Schefter and 30 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: then who's Tommy Pallisero and Diana Rusini all mixed into one? 31 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: This is an exclusive according to him. Kirk Cousins reunion 32 00:01:55,120 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: with Vikings gathering momentum amid quarter back uncertain team Johnson 33 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: what average After a tumultuous ten year with Atlanta, kirk 34 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 2: Cousins maybe headed back to the Vikings as they seek 35 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: real quarterback competition. I wish it would have said Sam Darnold, 36 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 2: reunion with Vikings gathering momentum in QB Uncertainly. That's what 37 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: I would have liked to have seen, but that's not 38 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 2: going to happen, says Cousins. Cousins has an eighty million 39 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 2: dollar poison pill in his contract and in his poised 40 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 2: to explore other options. The Vikings are eager for change 41 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: as they struggle to develop former first round pick JJ McCarthy. 42 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 2: Despite interest from other teams, a reunion with Minnesota seems 43 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: likely due to cousins fit and affection for the city. 44 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: NFL moves in mysterious ways. In just two years after 45 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins left for Minnesota for a hefty contract in Atlanta, 46 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 2: there's now growing sentiment among NFL executives in the market 47 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: for quarterbacks that Cousins could very well end up with 48 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: The Vikings. Story goes on to say a couple of 49 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: different things, including Cousins much of the playoffs in Minnesota 50 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 2: with coach O'Connell. It's well known around the NFL how 51 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: well those two work together, no secret at scouting circles, 52 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 2: and the Vikings are already looking for a real quarterback 53 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: competition With former first round pick JJ McCarthy struggling mightily 54 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: in many aspects with injuries, consistency, accuracy, decision making, and 55 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: split personality. He thinks he's JJ McCarthy by by night, 56 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,839 Speaker 2: and then by day or by and by Sunday six 57 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,839 Speaker 2: days a week, he's JJ McCarthy one day a week. 58 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: He's nine. And while there's been some conjecture about cousins status, 59 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: team sources who have reviewed as we work contracts as 60 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: there's an eighty million dollar poison pill that kicks in 61 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: on March thirteen. If Cousins is still on Atlanta's roster, 62 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: he's absolutely going to be able to explore other options. 63 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: One NFL general manager exploring a quarterback option said, they 64 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: can say what they want publicly, but they have some 65 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: serious questions about McCarthy, is what he says. Look, look, 66 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: they're signing somebody else to push him, and it's not 67 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: just going to be some stiff on a vet minimum contract. 68 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: That had been my question all along. You know, we 69 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 2: talked about there they're not. I mean, you can't find 70 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 2: really good quarterbacks to start for thirty two teams, right, 71 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 2: I mean once you get past six seven or for 72 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: sure thirteen fourteen, after that, most of those guys probably 73 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 2: would be better suited as a backup. Right. So yeah, 74 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: my question was who's available? I mean, who would you 75 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: bring in? And you know, the one name that always 76 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: comes up as Kyler Murray because apparently he's kind of 77 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: worn out as welcome with the Cardinals. But you know, 78 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 2: he's still got to pay him a lot of money. 79 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: You'd have to pay him more than would you have 80 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: to have paid Sam Darnald. And I like Sam Donald 81 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 2: better than I like Kyler Murray. So you know, I 82 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: don't know, but you wondered if they were just going 83 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: to get some I'm sorry, I almost consider cousins of stiff. 84 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, don't you. I mean I don't look at 85 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: him as like you know, he's he's long in the two. 86 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 2: I mean he's got talent, you know, and I guess 87 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: if he's in the exact right, he's like any of 88 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: those guys, if you give him time to throw, he 89 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: can carve a team up. We know that we can. 90 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: We give him time to throw. I'd work on the 91 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 2: offensive line is what I would work on more than anything. 92 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: But and here's what I find really interesting is it's 93 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: weird how this works. I think I'm higher on JJ 94 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 2: McCarthy than the Vikings team is, and they were high 95 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 2: animal before I was higher. Yeah, right, I mean I 96 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: saw enough. And though now again, you know, let's preface 97 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: this by saying, those last how many wins we won? 98 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: Five in a row in the season, right, we're four 99 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 2: and eight, went nine and eight? Did he quarterback all 100 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: of those games? How many of those did he quarterback? 101 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: Because it seemed like he did because brost Detroit, that's 102 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: from us, That's right. 103 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: My point is I think he played. He showed signs 104 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: in the games that he started late in the year 105 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 2: during that that FI. 106 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: I know he played the last game against Green Bay 107 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: because he went against their backups, right. And I remember 108 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: him playing at Dallas because that was the one where 109 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: he like did the gritty all across the goal line and. 110 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: Coached him like that too much, right, And again you 111 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: know that some of those results that you know when 112 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: he played better. I think I saw a stat that 113 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: said in three of the Vikings last four games, three 114 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: of those teams were the worst, the worst three DEFENSI approaches. 115 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: They were like twenty nine, thirty and thirty one ranked defensively. 116 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: So you know, again that's not his fault. But but yeah, 117 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 2: it's pretty hard, you know, because you want results and 118 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: you want him now, and you can't wait forever for 119 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: a guy, you know. I mean, this will be he'll 120 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 2: be going into his third year in the league, the 121 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: first year was was a wash out because of the 122 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: knee entry, and then last year he had he had 123 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 2: the concussion, he had the hairline fracture, and then he 124 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: had the sprained ankle. Right, he had three injuries last 125 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 2: year that kept him out of most of the games. 126 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: And it's like, well, so we really don't know what 127 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: we have, even though he showed signs. But you always 128 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: have to remind yourself. Most Sam Darnell probably showed signs 129 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: with the Jets a couple of times, and we're ready 130 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: to go to Carolina. He probably showed some signs there. 131 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: Most of these guys that get drafted have moments in 132 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: the NFL in their first or second year before everybody 133 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: determines guy just isn't going to cut it right, But 134 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: they have stretches. There have been times where guys have played. 135 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: My guess is, I don't have any numbers in front 136 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: of me. Guys that were drafted in the first round 137 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: that are no longer in the league or never amounted 138 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: to anything had stretches where they look really good one 139 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: football games. Right. 140 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: Well, even if you thought Jim jam McCarthy still could 141 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: be a franchise quarterback in terms of skill and ability 142 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: and progression developed think as a pastor, you still have 143 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: to worry about his ability to stay on the field. Yeah, 144 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: on top of all the other stuff. 145 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. And so you know, again is a 146 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: worse moves than Cousins, I guess. But then with Cousins, 147 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 2: where is you know you have to bring him into 148 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: the building and talk to him, because if you'll remember 149 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: when he signed with Atlanta, Atlanta then surprised everybody by 150 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: bye by drafting Pennox Junior. And apparently that and most 151 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: people agreed. I took a different tact on that. I'd 152 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 2: look at Cousins and say, you don't have to worry 153 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: about being pushed by him if you play well. And 154 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: he was bitter, apparently and upset because well, why would 155 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: you draft somebody because we don't know for sure about you. 156 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: How many playoff wins do you have, Kirk? How many 157 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: big game rings do you have? Kirk? We don't. We 158 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: think you're really good, but we're we know that there's 159 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: there's the eventually you will be will have to retire 160 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: or if you don't play well or get injured. When 161 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: I thought that was I thought he's being a big 162 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: I think anybody is being a baby. But now again, 163 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: I know you disagree with me, and a lot of 164 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: other people do as well, and that's fine, But how 165 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: does he feel now? Would he even want to come? 166 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 2: I mean, what are they going to tell him? 167 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: Are you that he's not in the same leverage position 168 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: that he was at that moment? 169 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: Well, they could be if there are several teams looking 170 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: for him. 171 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: I don't think there's several teams out there going we 172 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: want Kirk Cousins to be our guy. I think it's 173 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: at best he's in a competition mode. He's a couple 174 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: of years older than before. He's coming off an a 175 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: torn achilles at an old age. He hasn't looked as 176 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: good in the last few years. He's just not in 177 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: the same position he was when he first went to Atlanta, 178 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: and even then apparently was he wasn't in a good 179 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: position because they went undrafted. 180 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 3: Guy. 181 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 2: Well, what I'll say is, you might be right. 182 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: He's just looking for the best chance. Now, you might 183 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: be right with all that in Minnesota. Might be that. 184 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: You might be correct, You might be spot on with that. 185 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 2: I think he wants to start. If he's not and 186 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 2: if he's not guaranteed to start, he ain't going to 187 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 2: sign there. 188 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you're not guaranteed by anybody, you got 189 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: to go somewhere. 190 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: There's twelve teams that have a good quarterback the other 191 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 2: how many is that they're the fourteen don't and there 192 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 2: are no good backs that he'll terrible? Math well, twelve 193 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 2: and how many. 194 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: Two teams? Okay, I would say on a given year, 195 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:30,599 Speaker 1: there's potentially like ten openings, so on average. 196 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 2: I think there's one of those teams. I would say, 197 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: we'll let you start. I guarantee you ill. We'll just 198 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: have to agree to disagree. I guarantee you. 199 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: I don't think that were where he is in his career. 200 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 2: I think I think you'll see if he's not guaranteed 201 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: the starting job in Minnesota, he will not be here 202 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: because another team will. And if they don't, you're right. 203 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 2: If no other teams guarantee a job, this would be 204 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 2: probably his best spot. But I think he's looking for 205 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 2: a guaranteed starting job, and there's enough desperate teams out 206 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: there I think that would do that well. Pause will 207 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: come back with little this out lot here on the 208 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 2: commentment program on the fan. 209 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: I want to chime into what's happening with your favorite 210 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: KFM program. We'll make your voice heard on the Bradshaw 211 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: Ryan text line. Let us know what you have to 212 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: say by texting your message to six four six eighty six. 213 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: That six four six eighty six standard message of data resupply. 214 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: A couple thirteen fourteenth fast. I'm common, He's tend to be. 215 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 2: Mark Rosen will make his return tomorrow just before two o'clock. 216 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: Brian Oak will join us for Rock Talk at one fifteen. Yesterday, 217 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 2: we talked about a story in which Tom Pohlad, who 218 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: is now the new Joe polead they relieved Jove's duties. 219 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: Tom took over, so he's making all these business and 220 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 2: baseball to say he's the front guy of the club now. 221 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: And he said, got a surprise people, I thought when 222 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 2: he claimed over the weekend that the Twins had actually 223 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: made a run at Framber Valdez, who who Well, apparently 224 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,239 Speaker 2: he was one of the better free agent pictures available. 225 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: I think I saw in the Athletic that they had 226 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: ranked the top twenty free agents and he might have 227 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: been number twenty. He was one of the last available. 228 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: Poll ad claims they made a run mean, I'll take 229 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: his word for it, though. I think a lot of 230 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: us are highly skeptical of that because it's easy to 231 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: say no, we tried, and then when you say we tried, 232 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: he signed for one hundred and fifteen three years with Detroit. 233 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: What did we offer? You know, three years and fifty million? 234 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I mean again, just because 235 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 2: you offer somebody a deal doesn't mean it's realistic. You 236 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 2: can still say we offered. He probably wishes they would 237 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 2: have made a better offer, and he accepted. After the 238 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 2: news today, it looks like Lopez is and uh, Pablo Lopez, 239 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 2: who was injury riddled last year. I think he had shoulder, 240 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 2: bicep whatever, He had a couple of different arm issues. 241 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: Apparently now Tenneby was at elbow is that was reported 242 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: by Gleaman and that it's possible. It's not if I 243 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: read that correctly, it's not certainly needs surgery, but if 244 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: he does, he would be lost for the season. And look, 245 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 2: he's our best picture on the team, Joe Ryan mean 246 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: you can go one A, one B with him and 247 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: Joe Ryan. Uh, and without Lopez. Now you're you're basically 248 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 2: it's it used to be sawn spawn sayings pray for 249 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: rain back when the old Milwaukee Braves days. I don't 250 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: know what you would. I guess it would be uh, 251 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 2: Joe Ryan, And then you may as well start crying 252 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: because it's just there isn't much there. What does Bailey 253 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: overcome back? You know, he had he had, you know, 254 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: he had a couple of really good seasons as a 255 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: starter for the Twins, and last year I think he 256 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 2: spent some time injured and which wasn't as effective. And 257 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: so uh now there's even less, you know. And also 258 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 2: in this story from you know, uh, Gleaman wrote a 259 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 2: story for The Athletic that says uh uh. He says, 260 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: Pole adds actions have yet to meet his words because 261 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: he said we're going to contend we're not. You know, 262 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 2: if you'll remember ten Toby, he had said earlier, I 263 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: wish people would stop talking about payroll. And then when 264 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: he there was a lot of pushback there, he seems like, 265 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 2: and I don't mind, the guy changed in his mind, 266 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: but it sounds like he kind of just holds up 267 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: his finger and decides which way the wind wind blows 268 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 2: because he he now claims they were trying to sign 269 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 2: somebody for big money. They were talking about. No, you know, 270 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: let's forget about the payroll. We're going to see what 271 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: we can do with the team we have, he says. 272 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: Paul ads actions have yet to match his words, and 273 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: until they do, no Twins fan should be blamed for 274 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: doubting bigger moves and bigger payrolls around the way. At 275 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 2: the moment, they're spending less on the roster relative to 276 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: the rest of Major League Baseball than they have in 277 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: twenty five years. In no words, change that reality, paulad says, 278 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: in a perfect world, what I love to have been 279 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 2: in this role six months ago, as we entered the 280 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: normal cycle of free agency and have Jeremy zol as 281 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: the GM in his spot, Yes, I would have loved that. 282 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: But we are where we are. I got here two 283 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: months ago, and we've done what we can do between 284 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: now and then. Gleaming goes on. Speaking to a small 285 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: group of reporters Monday, shortly after giving a clubhouse speech 286 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: to the team, Poullett confirmed the reports of their interests 287 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 2: in Valdez and explained why, despite the starting pitching being 288 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 2: the roster's closest thing to his strength, they pursued another 289 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: frontline starter. He said, I think he was the best 290 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 2: pitcher on the market at that point. We have had 291 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: a hell of a one two three punch and it 292 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: would be crazy not to look at it at this point. 293 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 2: Showing rather than telling is the next step for pole Ad, 294 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: and hearing that the Twins tried and failed to sign 295 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: a prominent free agent. Ultimately isn't any more helpful to 296 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty sixteen than not pursuing them at all, 297 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: But it is intriguing for what the future could look 298 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: like if Polad's actions catch up with his words. Just 299 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 2: what he said, I do know payroll matters to people, 300 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: and that's what we're trying to do. I mean, if 301 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: it wasn't just about adding to it wasn't just about 302 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: adding to the payroll. It was a decision that Zoel 303 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: thought was in the best interest of the team. And 304 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: if he thought that, then I was going to be 305 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: willing to go there for us, which again is the 306 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 2: opposite of what he tried to Remember he had he 307 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 2: had that comment about you remember when Joe said right 308 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: sizing the payroll, that that that quote stuck with him 309 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: until the day he walked out the door. This one 310 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: from Tom pole Ad, I think where he said, can 311 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: we stop talking about the payroll? Now we're saying it 312 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 2: is important because it again, it's all public relations with 313 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 2: this team right now, because they've done most of their 314 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: actions really since since Carl went to the Great Beyond 315 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 2: and Jim and John and Bill and Robin Schip and 316 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 2: Ernie have taken over the team, and then Joe and 317 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 2: now Tom, there really hasn't been much success to speak of. 318 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: You know, I know during the two thousands we had 319 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 2: you know, in a week division. We won a few 320 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 2: division championships, but if you remember, we never advanced. We 321 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 2: had to crack an zero for eighteen slump in postseason play. 322 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 2: That was just a few years ago. And it went 323 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 2: nowhere Afterskes when everybody got bitter because after winning the postseason, 324 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: they decided to cut payroll right size and the payroll 325 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 2: and that's when people, even the Pole add pocket protectors. 326 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 2: At that point, I think they all had to feel 327 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 2: a bit sheepish because they all talked about how it's 328 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: not about payroll, blah blah blah, you can't fight again. 329 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 2: Then they got all upset that that that the Twins problem. 330 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 2: Why I thought you said it wasn't about money. And 331 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 2: that the pole ads. You know, it's it's not a 332 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: money thing. It's it's all about salary, cap ceilings and 333 00:17:58,119 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 2: floors and all that, which is a large part of it. 334 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 2: But you know, the rules are the rules, and so 335 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 2: you have to make you have to make do with 336 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 2: what it is. Either want to play with the big 337 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 2: boys or you don't. And the twins have never wanted 338 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: to do that, and now Tom's kind of saying they're 339 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 2: willing to. But you know, even if he would have 340 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 2: went out and got so one fifteen, let's just say 341 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 2: this for easy math. I don't know how they construct 342 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 2: their contracts, but I'm bad at math. As I proved before, 343 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 2: what would be one hundred and fifteen spread over three 344 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: years if he didn't. 345 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: Evenly, that's about thirty eight ish. 346 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 2: So if they would have added thirty eight to a 347 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 2: payroll that's where right now, I mean, their payroll is 348 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: under one hundred million, I think, so that it wouldn't 349 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 2: even have gotten to them to that one hundred and thirty, 350 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 2: which I think last year they were one thirty when 351 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 2: the season started, so it wouldn't even have got him 352 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: to that. So it's you know, it's like, you know, that. 353 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't have argued had they made that decision. 354 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 2: If the Valdez guys as good as people think. The 355 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 2: athletic staff I think is pretty good at at sifteing 356 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 2: through who the free agents are. If they think he 357 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: was the twentieth best free agent out there, I wouldn't 358 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 2: criticize the poll. I'd be I'd be applauding them. But 359 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 2: my point is, is it really that big of a 360 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 2: deal when your payroll has already been slashed to the bone? 361 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 2: Now anyways, and then you wonder, you know, did they 362 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: did they low ball Valdez? Because Detroit is not afraid 363 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 2: to spend money? Did they low ball Valdez? And now 364 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 2: they can just say, well, we tried, we tried. Well yeah, 365 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 2: well but did you really wasn't? You know? We we 366 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 2: we We've talked about that before. Tend to be in 367 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 2: other situations with other teams and other general manners are 368 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: not just here where if if you if you if 369 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 2: your offer really isn't competitive, then is it really an 370 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 2: offer at all? I don't. I don't think it is, 371 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: you know, so, I mean, how how would you most 372 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 2: guys are in for the money you want to win too, 373 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: but unless they unless the offer was really close. And 374 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 2: he looked at the two teams and said, and then 375 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: if he did, he looks at you, well, Detroit's more 376 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 2: well equipped to advance and you know, win a division 377 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 2: title than the Twins are. And then Pole I had 378 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: gotten really mad again because like the over under for 379 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: for Twins wins, I think it was like seventy three. 380 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 2: And he said, that's preposterous. It's ludicrous. And it's like 381 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 2: I said, I think so too, because I thought it 382 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: was sixty five. It's the over under. You know, that's 383 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: what I thought. So he's insulted by that, and you know, 384 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 2: thinks a good since. And again, yeah, he admits he 385 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: hasn't paid that close attention to base he hasn't been 386 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: a baseball guy. He's been doing other things he's been 387 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 2: and that's just selling hope. Well, I think we have 388 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 2: a chance to be real competitive this year. What makes 389 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 2: you think that unless Buxton has the same kind of 390 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 2: year he had last year and stays healthy, Royce Lewis 391 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 2: stays healthy and has a big year, some of these 392 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 2: other young players. Yeah right, you needed him to stay healthy, 393 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: You needed Joe Ryan, everybody. You need an over to 394 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 2: bounce back, and then you're counting on some young arms 395 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 2: to not just hold serve, but to actually get better. 396 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 2: And then you're you're trying to rebuild a bullpen. It's proposed. 397 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, anything can happen. I get it, 398 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: and the Valdez would have been a nice move in 399 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 2: that direction. But but but to believe that this team 400 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: will be competitive, it's I I don't know what strains 401 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: credulity as far as I'm concerned. We'll pause and return 402 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:09,959 Speaker 2: one more segment to go. This is the common Man 403 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 2: program along with Tennebee right here on the fan. Where 404 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: is Chicago State University? Where is Farris State University? You know, yes, yeah, 405 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 2: you're in the Yeah I am. 406 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: My guess is in that I think they're in Michigan, Michigan. Oh, 407 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: I wish I was. 408 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: In Michigan down on the farm. I bring it up 409 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 2: because I'm now subscribing to Ferris dot Edu. 410 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Big Rapids, Michigan. 411 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: I'm now a subscribe to Ferris dot edu. Slash new 412 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: Slash archive headline from a February ninth story, Tennabee says 413 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 2: Ferris grad and Big Game referee Shawn Smith earns praise 414 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 2: for being in command while officiating the championship game from 415 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 2: Big Rapids Michigan dateline. It says Farris State University grad 416 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 2: Shawn Smith is earning solid marks for his job as 417 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 2: head official of Sunday Super Bowl LX, with analyst saying 418 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: he was in command of the championship game. He's a 419 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 2: ninety four grad was the lead official for the game 420 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 2: as the ref wearing the white cap. He was in 421 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: the spotlight making calls in your period on camera before 422 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 2: an estimated worldwide audience of one hundred and twenty five 423 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: million viewers. Ben Ostro is founder and editor in chief 424 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 2: of The Football Zebra's website. They have their own website, 425 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 2: tennebe I didn't know if you're aware of that, and 426 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: he says the crew showed up for this game and 427 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: stayed on the outside and was present when needed. The 428 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: crew has every reason to feel they earned their assignment 429 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: and their big game rings. I guess the officials get 430 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 2: rings as well. Shawn Smith will a command for his 431 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 2: first big game. It shouldn't be long before he returns. 432 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 2: Mark Schultz, the website senior editor, noted the game won 433 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 2: by the Seahawks didn't feature and he calls it will 434 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 2: go down, and officiating lore that said Shawn Smith and 435 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 2: his crew called a good game here. I don't know 436 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 2: at tent of me if this is preposterous statement, but 437 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 2: I love this is what Schultz said about about Farris 438 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: State University grad and head official Seawan Smith. I could 439 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 2: tell Smith was nervous coming to the coin toss, but 440 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 2: he kept his emotions in check and got the game 441 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 2: started off on the right foot. He was nice heading 442 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 2: to the coin toss, but he kept his emotions in 443 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 2: check and he got through it. And I'd be nervous too. 444 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 2: The thing is, I don't wouldn't be as nervous on 445 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 2: the coin because if you've noticed they flipped the coin 446 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 2: and let it hit the ground, the nerves really show. 447 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 2: If like when you're like if you and I were 448 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: going to flip where you'd flip it up and then 449 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 2: catch it and then flip it over the top of 450 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: your opposite of the palm of your hand on the 451 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 2: top of your hand. What if the ref had to 452 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 2: do that and then he just couldn't pull it off. 453 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 2: He'd flip it, couldn't catch it, try to put it. 454 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 2: That would be a show of nerves it's hard to 455 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: know if there's any nerves when you just let it 456 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 2: fall to the ground and then call it heads or tails. 457 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 2: Very controversial, but congratulates interesting to Sean Smith. So I 458 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 2: don't know if you paid any attention at all to 459 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 2: the NBA All Star Weekend. I did not, other than 460 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: it was stars versus stripes and Anthony Edwards earned the 461 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 2: Most Valuable Player. I still don't really know what they did. 462 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: They had a series of games that lasted twelve minutes. 463 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: Apparently there can't play for forty eight anymore. They could 464 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 2: play hard for twelve, not forty eight. But my favorite 465 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 2: was that was when we talked about this in depth yesterday. 466 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 2: I mean I just went on and I because I could. 467 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: I don't if you saw the quote. Apparently when the commissioner, 468 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 2: Adam Silver I think it is his name, yes, when 469 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 2: he presented the trophy, he thanked the teams for playing hard. 470 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 2: He said, thanks for trying hard. I mean, think of 471 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: how sad that is, tendaby that he felt the first 472 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: thing he had to say was to congratulate the team. 473 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: Blakemore saved the audio for you. I don't know if 474 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 2: he sent it to you. He was going to see 475 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 2: he was going to save it for you so you 476 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 2: could pass it on to the committee for PST next year. 477 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: He actually thanked the team, I hey think about me. Hey, 478 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 2: thanks for earning your pay and trying like you're supposed to. 479 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 2: I mean, it's gotten so bad in the NBA that 480 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 2: you have to be thanked by the commissioner for putting 481 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 2: one foot in front of the other. And now that 482 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 2: we're coming back from the All Star break, we'll see 483 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: how it goes. There's the other controversy where they want 484 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 2: to change. They're trying to come up with a different 485 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: way other than the ping pong balls, because apparently Barrera 486 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 2: was telling me this, and I read a story about 487 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: there are at least nine teams that they believe are 488 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 2: tanking intentionally to try to lot to get. Yeah, so 489 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 2: you know, and you and I have talked about tanking, 490 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 2: and I'm I'm I'm kind of i'm wishy washy on 491 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 2: it because like when the Vikings were four and eight, 492 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 2: I wasn't a big fan of winning a bunch of 493 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 2: football games to get to nine and eight and then 494 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,719 Speaker 2: instead of getting like I mean, had they lost all 495 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 2: their games, they'd be drafting like fifth or sixth. Now 496 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 2: they're drafting eighteen. There's a big difference. I mean, you 497 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 2: can find a great player at eighteen. Randy Moss is 498 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 2: a prime example, right, And you can even find guys 499 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 2: in the sixth round. Tom Brady's another example. But the 500 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 2: further up you pick, you know, in theory, the better 501 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 2: chance you get plus every ensuing round after that you're 502 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: further up. But I you know, again, to convince players 503 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 2: to tank is difficult to do. Players don't want to 504 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 2: do that. They're fighting for contracts, they don't want to 505 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 2: get hurt, don't want to embarrass themselves, and they play 506 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 2: to win. 507 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: Uh. 508 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: The only person that can really control the tanking is 509 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 2: the coaching staff, right where all of a sudden you 510 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 2: have a you have a head coach that calls a 511 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: more conservative game. They stay in base defense and is 512 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 2: they don't really do a lot to try to counteract 513 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 2: with the other teams doing bench certain players and not 514 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 2: not when I say bench, not because they're not playing well, 515 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 2: but just you play backups a little bit more, you know, 516 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 2: and you go, you look at Darrisano, I think you're right, 517 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 2: your knees bad. You sit out the rest of the season. 518 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: JJ want't you you know, you hold your guys off 519 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 2: and I don't. I guess to a certain extent, I 520 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 2: can understand that. NBA, I I I don't know. Do 521 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 2: you think there's any room for tanking or not? 522 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,479 Speaker 1: Is there room for tanking? What I mean? 523 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 2: Do you do you do it? Do you do you 524 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 2: think there's room for it in the end? Like, would 525 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: you if you were a fan of a team, could 526 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 2: you accept the fact that your team is not really 527 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 2: trying to win games because they want to get the 528 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 2: number one pick or number two or number three pick over? 529 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: I mean, would I want my NBA or NFL team 530 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: that's mathematically eliminated to lose as many games as possible 531 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: because you have no chance of making the playoffs. But 532 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: you know the NBA, we've seen it here. Anthony Edwards 533 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: transformed this franchise. You got the number one pick that year, 534 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: and now Anthony Edwards here and now you have a 535 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: chance to win. You have a chance to go to 536 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: the NBA Finals every year now as long as ant 537 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: is here, So especially in basketball where one player means 538 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: so much, Yeah, it can transform your franchise. Is now 539 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: worth trying to win those last couple of games? NFL 540 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: is a little harder to do. But clearly, if you 541 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: get a big time quarterback towards the top of the draft, 542 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: that can transform your franchise, because that what Drake May 543 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: did to New England Patriots. It seems like it's a 544 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: little harder to spot out those franchise players in the 545 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: NFL compared to the NBA. What about this for an 546 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: anti tanking philosophy, I think I feel like I've heard 547 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: this somewhere, and I apologize if I'm butchering the exact 548 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: way to do it, But the thought is, the way 549 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: you determine the draft order in the NBA is by 550 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: which team gets the most wins after you're mathematically eliminated. 551 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: So if you are eliminated from a playoff spot with 552 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: twelve games to go in the NBA season, and you 553 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: won five of your last twelve games, you would get 554 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: like five points, and then whoever has the highest amount 555 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: of points. So obviously, the teams that are in the 556 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: playoff mix as long as possible are gonna have less 557 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: games to try to tank. But once teams are mathematically eliminated, 558 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: to keep them playing, they're trying to win as many 559 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: games as possible. I kind of like I would like 560 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: to see that idea come to fruition. 561 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 2: Well, here's a Saturday story from the Associated Press Daylight 562 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 2: engelod Ha said. Greg Beecherm writes. The piece says NBA 563 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 2: Commissioner Adam silver Or believes teams are tanking more aggressively 564 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 2: this season than the league has seen in recent years. 565 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 2: He is considering many possible remedies to ensure real competition, 566 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 2: from taking away draft picks to making wholesale changes to 567 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 2: the draft and lottery. Silver immediately addressed the hottest topic 568 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 2: in NBA Circle Saturdays annual Address mak and during the 569 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 2: Aull Star weekend, making it clear the nb will do 570 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 2: almost anything to make sure teams earnestly compete. Thursday, the 571 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 2: league issued a half million dollar fine of the Jazz 572 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars penalties of the Pacers for sitting 573 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: healthy players, believing their apparent tanking actions compromise the league's 574 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 2: competitive integrity. Here's what he said. Are we seeing behavior 575 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 2: that is worse this year than we've seen in recent memory? Yes, 576 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 2: in my view, which was what led to those fines, 577 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 2: and not just those fines, but to my statement that 578 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 2: we're going to be looking more closely at the totality 579 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 2: of all circumstances this season in terms of teams of 580 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 2: behavior and very intentionally wanted teams to be on notice. 581 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: Silver knows, strong words and six figure finds might not 582 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 2: be nearly enough to compel struggling teams to commit to 583 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: real competition instead of improving their odds in what's expected 584 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 2: to be one of the deepest drafts in recent history. 585 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 2: And that's why the NBA is looking at stronger solutions, 586 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 2: he says. The league is eighty years old. It's time 587 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 2: to take a fresh look at this and see whether 588 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: that's an antiquated way of going about it, you know, 589 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 2: the current process. Ultimately, we need a system to fairly 590 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 2: distribute players. It's in the player's interest as well as 591 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 2: the teams that you have a level of parody around 592 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: the league. There's only so many jobs in so many cities. 593 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 2: But we've got to look at some fresh thinking here. 594 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 2: I mean, what we're doing, what we're seeing right now 595 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 2: is not working. NBA's Competition Committee is re examining the 596 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 2: structure of the draft lottery for any ways to maximize 597 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 2: the upside, to minimize the upside of tanking. The commissioner 598 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,719 Speaker 2: also acknowledge that the finds could conceivably be followed by 599 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 2: the revocation of draft picks from tanking team. Silver said, 600 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 2: there's talk about every possible remedy now to stop this behavior. 601 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,239 Speaker 2: And I don't know what the answer. That's why they 602 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 2: they're they're they're they're probably talking about it day in 603 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 2: day out now. Uh. And I have to admit, I 604 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 2: it's hard for me to argue with the team wanting 605 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 2: when you when you know your team is out of it. 606 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 2: My issue is the same as it becomes with NBA 607 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 2: players not trying during games right when they when with 608 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 2: the Wolves. Is that anybody that listens knows it's it's 609 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 2: something that gets stuck in my craw where they just 610 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 2: basically say we're not playing. I mean, Gobert called the 611 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 2: whole team out from not playing defense because then you're 612 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 2: cheating the the ticket buying public. But if the franchise 613 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 2: is taken tanking, you're doing the same thing. So I 614 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 2: don't know. I h it's just another reason why the 615 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 2: NBA is the worst of the four major leagues. 616 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: THEBA has a regular season problem. Yeah, there's a reason 617 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: they tried to create a tournament in the middle of 618 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: the season to create hype. We've heard about load management 619 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: and how popular that's become over the last thirteen fourteen years, 620 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: where these guys just don't take regular season games seriously 621 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: and then teams now tanking in January is not going 622 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: to help that. 623 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 2: Either, right, Yeah, it certainly isn't, and so where it 624 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 2: goes from here remains to be seen. So Law Murray 625 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 2: rights for the Athletic and they have their NBA Power 626 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 2: rankings post All Star Break Tennebee. All season long, it's 627 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 2: been pretty much a given that the Oklahoma City Thunder 628 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 2: the defending champions or ticket of the way they started. 629 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 2: They were twenty and one or twenty two and one 630 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 2: before they then they went on a stretch where I 631 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 2: think for the next dozen games they played five hundred ball. 632 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 2: Right now, they have the Detroit Pistons at number one. 633 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 2: This is the Tier one top contenders. They have it 634 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 2: in different tiers. Tier one Pistons, followed by Spurs, Thunder, Knickabocker's, 635 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 2: and the Celtics. They say those are your top tier 636 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 2: contending teams. Tier two described as in a good place 637 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 2: would be the Calves at six, Nuggets at seven, Rockets 638 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 2: at eight, and that's the end of in a good place. 639 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 2: Then there's the bubble Lakers at nine, Timberwolves at ten. 640 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 2: Here's what they write. He doesn't write anything. He doesn't 641 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 2: really say anything about it. 642 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 3: He starts talking about the All Star weekend moment when 643 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 3: Edwards won the won the award. But you know the 644 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,479 Speaker 3: for the for the Wolves to be at ten after 645 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 3: being a Western Conference finalist two years, yeah, and now well, 646 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 3: and I think it's because I think people take seriously 647 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 3: what players say. 648 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 2: You know, the old actions speak louder than words. Okay, 649 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 2: then I need to see some more actions because right 650 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 2: now their words speak louder to me. When you see 651 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 2: Gobert call out the club, Aunt basically said, I know 652 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 2: I have to play. I just I got to figure 653 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 2: out a way to get myself I'm paraphrasing, but I 654 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 2: have to figure out a way to get myself to 655 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 2: play defense every game. And so until they make that decision. 656 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 2: Now we're in the stretch run, what twenty twenty five 657 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 2: or so games left in the regular season, and this 658 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 2: is where that if I remember correctly, that's last year's 659 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 2: when Julius Randall came back from an injury, and he 660 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 2: really played well and the team really made a great push. 661 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 2: I mean, they played well. They got to the sixth seed, 662 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 2: and they ended up getting to the Western Conference Finals 663 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,439 Speaker 2: before getting bounced by It was a thunder four games 664 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 2: for one. Maybe they'll do that again. Maybe a lot 665 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 2: of teams, you know, I mean, if you can tank 666 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 2: games and you can take time off. The Wolves do 667 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 2: seem like a lot of these NBA teams. It's I mean, 668 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 2: at least they believe they can turn it on and 669 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 2: off like a switch, and sometimes it looks like they can. 670 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 2: I mean, you'll see them play I've talked about this forever. 671 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 2: You'll see them play some of the better teams in 672 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 2: the league. They can come off a terrible game against 673 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 2: one of the bottom feeders and the next night or 674 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 2: you know, one day off, and the next night they're 675 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 2: suddenly they look like they're a contender for the NBA Finals. 676 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 2: So we'll see how it goes. But I'm not I'm 677 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 2: I guess the kid they got from Chicago is a 678 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 2: real nice piece that they needed to add, So I 679 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 2: guess it's they're a quality club. We just have to 680 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 2: let the chips fall where they may just hopefully they 681 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 2: decide they want to try and play defense throughout the 682 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 2: playoffs as well. 683 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, I feel like they should be the same tier 684 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: with like Denver at the stage postseason success over the 685 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: last couple years. They're right next to them in the 686 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: regular seasons or the current regular season standings. Yeah, game 687 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: and a half back of Denver. Yeah, I t're in 688 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: the same tier. 689 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 2: I tend to agree with you, but let's let they 690 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 2: need to prove that out on the court. But you're 691 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 2: right they should be. How is it is it still 692 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 2: Canada and the United States? Uh? They're on a collision 693 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 2: course for the for on the men's side, for the 694 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 2: for the the women. 695 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: They are the women are going to play each other 696 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: for the golden medal? 697 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 2: When is that game? 698 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: That is Thursday? I believe I think it's that like noon. 699 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: I think we should just carry that game right here, 700 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: says that's I mean, that's a big game. It's the 701 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: USA versus Canada. The men are going to get an 702 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: unfortunate draw here, so they got a first the top 703 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: four seeds got to buy. 704 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 2: Is this excuse computer or not. 705 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm just speaking the truth. I'm just speaking the truth. 706 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: If you went into theis I would have set on 707 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: paper USA and Canada the top two teams. I would 708 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,280 Speaker 1: have had Sweden's number three well out of the pool 709 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: place Sweden because of their lost. So did they lose 710 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: to Slovakia or Finland. I don't forget which one, but 711 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 1: they had a loss in pool play, and so now 712 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: they got the seven seed once you get towards like 713 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: the metal round area. And so they're playing Latvia right now. 714 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 1: I'll have to check the updated score. Last time I checked, 715 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: they were up to nothing on Latvia. So if they 716 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: beat Lafa, which they will, they would face the USA 717 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: in the quarterfinals. Yeah, still two nothing. Sweden leads ever Latvia. 718 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm not sure at what time that is in the game. 719 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: I think that's probably first period or after the first period. 720 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 1: So USA is going to play what I would consider 721 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: one of the top three teams at the Olympics. And 722 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: you lose, you're done. You wouldn't You don't even get 723 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 1: a medal, so it's not a favorable drug. Now, if 724 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 1: they win, they would face Slovakia or Germany in the Semis, 725 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,760 Speaker 1: which would be a favorable raw. So got a sneak 726 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:02,760 Speaker 1: by Sweden. 727 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 2: Do you think would you think from an honest, neutral observer, Canada, Minnesoteria, Canada, 728 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 2: the United States? Are they coin flip or is one 729 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 2: considered maybe a little better than the other. 730 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: I think Canada has more offensive firepower, you know, McDavid, McKinnon, 731 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: Crosby and then Macklin, Celebrini, the nineteen year old Kady 732 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: who I think is already a top ten player in 733 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: the National Hockey League at the age of nineteen. He's 734 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: had a great Olympics. Nobody can match the firepower of 735 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: the top two lines of Canada. Okay, the question with 736 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 1: Canada is always going to be goaltending. Which Jordan Bennington 737 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: is a radicus. He's been throughout his career. He has 738 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: moments that when the spotlights on him the biggest, he 739 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,399 Speaker 1: plays good. He's won a Cup with Saint Louis, he 740 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: helped him win the Four Nations. He's had international success. 741 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: So he's just a Beddington is a complete wild card, 742 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: and you don't know if you're gonna get brilliant Bennington 743 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: or brutal Bennington. You know, USA might have a little 744 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: more depth than Canada. Maybe they're a little bit better 745 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: on defense, So it would be a matter of clearly 746 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: you play Canada, you got to slow down their top 747 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: guys and stay out of the penalty box. 748 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 2: All right, as we as we get ready to toss 749 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 2: it over to. 750 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: Barrera, but now we got to get by the tough 751 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:23,879 Speaker 1: Sweden team first. 752 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 2: As we as we get ready to turn it over 753 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 2: to big ticket and Jag, I'm going to do the 754 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,439 Speaker 2: equivalent of yelling fire in a crowded theater. It's gonna 755 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 2: be controversial. Could it be possible Sweden tanked it so 756 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 2: they could play the United States first and then guarantee 757 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,800 Speaker 2: themselves at least a silver medal Against what you just said, 758 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 2: more firepower, Canada might be a slightly better in the 759 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 2: United States. Speaking of tanking, could Sweden have tanked it 760 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 2: against that game in which they were supposed to win? 761 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 2: Your thoughts, I. 762 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: Don't think you want to tank it and play one 763 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: of the best two teams. 764 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:56,919 Speaker 2: Well, you have to play one the best two either, 765 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 2: didn't you Either way, they would have to get through 766 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 2: United States, right or Canada? And if Canada is the better. 767 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 1: Team, that's hockey someone else can pull off. 768 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 2: I think they tanked it. I'm going to make that accusation. 769 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: I think Sweden tank so you think it's more favorable 770 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: for them to have the seven seed than say, the 771 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: three seed. 772 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 2: Yes, at least if they don't if they don't have 773 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 2: to beat Canada now until the gold medal game. 774 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: Yes, well, if you're the three seed, you still could 775 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: have awaited Canada until the gold medal game. Well, because 776 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,879 Speaker 1: you're on the two seeds side of the bracket two 777 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: versus seven, three versus six. 778 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 2: I see. 779 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, then I'm not going to go ahead with 780 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: your tanking theory of the Olympics. 781 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to go with it. I'm going to 782 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 2: say they tanked it. 783 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: I don't think wanting us they're saying the same thing. 784 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: Dang it. We have USA in the quarterfinals with the 785 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: odds of US swinning and medal are to have gone down. 786 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 2: If Sweden wins would to be not as big as 787 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty, but. 788 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 1: No, I would No, I would not be a huge 789 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: upset down. So no, it'd be a very minor upside. 790 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, Hey, great job. 791 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 2: You as well. We enjoyed our visit. Tomorrow Oak at 792 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 2: one fifteen for Rock Talk Rosen just before too stick around, 793 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 2: big ticket jag. 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