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Speaker 3: Welcome in, hope your Thursday is off to a fantastic start.

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Speaker 1: Leave us a talkback.

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Speaker 3: We will get to that talkback in our number two today.

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Speaker 3: We have a ton to get through, only three hours

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Speaker 3: to do it. A lot on the Cincinnati Bengals. There

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Speaker 3: is the deadline question that we will continue to ask

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Speaker 3: on whether you add, whether you subtract. What do you

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Speaker 3: do if you're the Cincinnati Bengals. Also, what do you

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Speaker 3: do with these three roster spots that are still Austin

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Speaker 3: It's twelve it's twelve oh one. Do we still have

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah, all right, I think our roster currently

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Speaker 3: is full. Maybe, but you never know, Maybe see what happens.

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Speaker 3: Three roster spots for the Bengals remain open. And it's Thursday.

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Speaker 3: This is the last big practice day before your preparations

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Speaker 3: start to throttle down a little bit during the NFL schedule.

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Speaker 3: Not sure what we're doing.

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Speaker 1: I think the expectation is that they will bring people

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Speaker 1: would expect that to be Cedric Johnson, who was a

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Speaker 1: full participant in practice yesterday. You might remember the former

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Speaker 1: the end of last season, so that would be one.

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Speaker 1: The other would likely be Joe Giles Harris, who was

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Speaker 1: I did, though, find it interesting that in the transactions

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Speaker 3: All right, Why rough Lenny Feathers down there. Also, there's

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Speaker 3: into in football in the NATTI that aren't very flattering

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Speaker 3: for the Cincinnati Bengals. We have talkbacks. It's Thursday, which

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Speaker 3: means we'll read and react ahead of Bears Bengals. John

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Speaker 3: Sheeran a Z Sports covering the Bengals will join us,

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Speaker 3: and how about this get Austin Keegan Nicholson not only

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Speaker 3: today but each and every Thursday.

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Speaker 1: I'm understanding. I sent Keegan a text and I said,

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Speaker 1: because he's a very busy man, I said, can you

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Speaker 1: join us tomorrow at two? And they and every Thursday

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Speaker 1: at two from now until the end of basketball season.

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Speaker 1: And you know those little bubbles that pop up if

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Speaker 1: and then finally after about seven minutes, Keegan goes yes

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Speaker 1: and yes, I said you're the best.

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Speaker 1: So Keegan today at two o'clock from now through the

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Speaker 1: end of Bearcat basketball love that.

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Speaker 3: Basketball season is approaching. Yesterday we heard from Wes Miller.

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Speaker 3: the Xavier Musketeers. Will do that in our number three

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Speaker 3: We got quite a lot to get to, including your

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Speaker 3: If you were in the iHeart Kenwood studio today, you

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Speaker 3: would see Austin Elmore downed in a very nice, very

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Speaker 1: Bulls haven't been four and oh in four years back

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Speaker 1: That being said, Bulls have a chance against Moe's Nicks

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Speaker 3: Last night, there was a buzzer beater in the NBA

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Speaker 1: How about this, said, Austin Reeves is the goat? The goat?

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Speaker 3: How about Brad Marthant And I don't know if I'm

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Speaker 3: saying his last name right. It might be Marshand, but

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Speaker 3: He came in and he is essentially telling people that

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Speaker 1: But why are you giving coaches seven to ten year deals.

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Speaker 3: There is also also what happened in Major League Baseball

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Speaker 3: This time last year, he was wrapping up a season

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Speaker 3: But it had me thinking. Last night, Austin, we watched

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Speaker 3: He seemed like he was overthrowing, he was missing locations,

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Speaker 1: It felt like Hunter was in over his head a

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Speaker 3: And yet I watched his twenty two year old rookie

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Speaker 1: And I will say this, he did pitch earlier in

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Speaker 1: We have a.

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Speaker 3: Listen to this sobering statistic. The folks at Gridiron Grading

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Speaker 1: I was berated on social media when the Steelers selected

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Speaker 3: He's actually he's got a six point two impact rate.

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Speaker 1: the I don't know that they are thinking about next year,

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Speaker 1: which it should is part of the issue in and

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Speaker 1: of itself, but the way they view it is, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: whether or not we have Trey, we're gonna see and

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Speaker 1: give Chamar and all these guys as many chances as

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Speaker 1: we can get, and I think Cedric Johnson will get

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Speaker 1: a lot of chances when they activate him to see

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Speaker 1: what they have. They're in this weird mix of development

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Speaker 1: but also trying to win, and I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it's feasible. That's a hard place to be, but your defense,

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Speaker 1: you have no chance to win basically without Trey on

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Speaker 1: the field, right, So I mean I don't even I

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Speaker 1: don't expect Trey to play this week. Obviously, get him

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks to get right, and he's not

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Speaker 3: It's insane if you think, like Miles Murphy was drafted

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Speaker 3: probably to be.

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Speaker 1: The Sam Hubbard, it was drafted to be Tray's.

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Speaker 3: Trays replacement, and then Shamar was probably drafted to be

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Speaker 3: the same, and neither of them are producing, and it

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Speaker 3: puts you at a severe, severe deficit going forward. Let's

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Speaker 3: calls to increase the conversation going on here. Now we

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Speaker 3: number one around the Cincinnati Bengals. Let's go to Westchester

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Speaker 3: and talk to Jake. What's up, Jake?

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Speaker 7: Okay, what's it going on?

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Speaker 1: Guys? How you doing?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 7: You know, just listening in. So I wanted to piggyback

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Speaker 7: off what you guys are talking about. So I've been

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Speaker 7: kind of pondering this and really figure out what's been

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Speaker 7: going on and why are we so bad at defense?

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Speaker 7: And really, if we think about the Super Bowl run,

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Speaker 7: only four were draft picks that the Bengals really that

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Speaker 7: were starters that really had worked contributor. It's kind of

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Speaker 7: sad to think that who has that's been unable to

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Speaker 7: convince the Duke or whoever to convince like we have

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Speaker 7: quality draft picks and it hasn't really been since Zimmer

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Speaker 7: that we've actually had really established guys are top quality

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Speaker 7: like you have you know, Apkins, Carlos Dunlap actually effective

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Speaker 7: in those roles. So it's kind of sad to think

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Speaker 7: of when will this ever change?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's the sobering fact. The way the roster

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Speaker 3: has been constructed, and it was easier to do that

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Speaker 3: because you could pay be over pay for some talent

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Speaker 3: because you had Joe Burrow on a rookie quarterback deal.

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Speaker 3: Now it gets magnified in the draft because you have

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Speaker 3: to hit on those guys and be able to get

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Speaker 3: them in on their rookie deals to be able to

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Speaker 3: make it financially work, and they've just been unable to

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Speaker 3: do that.

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Speaker 1: Well, you bring up a good point, Jake about you

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Speaker 1: know Mike Zimmer and I think another guy that's an

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Speaker 1: example is Jay Hayes, who is their defensive coordinator or

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Speaker 1: defensive line coach for a long time. With the Bengals,

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Speaker 1: the coaches are basically the scouting department. Those two guys

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Speaker 1: were really good at identifying talent and turning that into

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Speaker 1: NFL talent. Michael Johnson, Carlos dunlap Gino Atkins, those are

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Speaker 1: guys that the Bengals drafted under their watch and developed

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Speaker 1: into some of the best players in franchise history. And

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Speaker 1: when you don't have assistant coaches that are good at

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Speaker 1: doing that or capable of doing that, it shows up

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Speaker 1: in the draft because that's who you rely on more

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Speaker 1: than a small scouting department, Which is my point that

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Speaker 1: it all leads back to Zach Taylor in his inability

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Speaker 1: to ultimately build a staff that is capable of doing

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Speaker 1: in completing the unique, complex tasks of the Bengals job.

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Speaker 7: I think the only thing we want to also say,

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Speaker 7: like I know, we kind of say, look at what

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Speaker 7: Louis and Arima was doing was over on the Cults

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Speaker 7: to kind of piggyback. Also a conversation I had before

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Speaker 7: there what I also would love to see, which won't

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Speaker 7: be for years down if he's still there, is is he?

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Speaker 7: Because I also feel like he had a hand on

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Speaker 7: some of these draft picks. Well, clearly he didn't like

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Speaker 7: to play rookies, but if he had a hand in

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Speaker 7: all this picking up talent, is that part of the

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Speaker 7: reason why we let him go because he didn't believe

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Speaker 7: the talent was good enough that he had a selection

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Speaker 7: in there. Maybe that's why he was partially the scapegoat

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Speaker 7: as well. Yeah, versus we did establish rookies on the

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Speaker 7: offensive side and supplement them in, but we never really

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Speaker 7: get out defense, and now we are forced to and

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Speaker 7: we're seeing what's occurring.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. Appreciate the call man. Thank you. Yep,

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Speaker 1: thanks uh from Westchester to California. What's going on? John?

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Speaker 4: Hey, Tony number one. I'm so happy that you're back.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to piggyback also on what you guys are saying,

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Speaker 4: but I want to take it up a notch. Really,

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Speaker 4: it starts with the Brown Blackburn family with the way

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Speaker 4: that they handcuffed the scouting by having a small scouting department.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if Duke Cobin is the right guy

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Speaker 4: or not. But you know, with such a small scouting department,

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Speaker 4: they're not going to hit on the draft picks that

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Speaker 4: they need to hit on number one, number two. You're right,

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Speaker 4: Zach is not the greatest coach. Okay, he's just not.

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Speaker 4: But Mike Brown is so loyal that he doesn't really

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Speaker 4: fire people. Maybe he should fire Duke. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Maybe he should fire I don't know. But when they're

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Speaker 4: not producing what he I would assume he expects them

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Speaker 4: to produce. You would think that he would scratch his

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Speaker 4: head and say, well, maybe we need to make a

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Speaker 4: change and do something a little different and look at

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Speaker 4: you know, how did the Steelers do it? How? My

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Speaker 4: question always was how did the Steelers draft TJ?

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Speaker 7: Watt?

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Speaker 4: And the Bengals didn't? You know? It was like, seriously,

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Speaker 4: but now you've got Jack Sawyer in the mix too,

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Speaker 4: But it's like over.

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Speaker 1: And over and over.

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Speaker 4: But as long as you got Mike and Katie in charge,

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Uh. The only other thing I want

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Speaker 4: to say is that I'm really impressed with Ursay's daughter

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Speaker 4: Dan on the sidewine geaving her dog gone is to

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Speaker 4: learn the operations, You don't think the players are impressed

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Speaker 4: with that.

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Speaker 3: No spot on we talked about earlier in the week, John,

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Speaker 3: Thank you for the phone call, Thank you for listening. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's the swear thing Austin becomes even more pivotal because

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Speaker 3: t J. Watt's taking a step back this year. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean it's just that they you know, that could

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Speaker 3: be perceived as a victory victory lab for the Bengals. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: why you don't pay Trey Henderson. But you're right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the evaluation of talent, however it may be being done,

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Speaker 3: is an issue.

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Speaker 1: What's going on, John? How are you.

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Speaker 5: Good?

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Speaker 10: Afternoon?

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Speaker 1: Fellows? How are you good?

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Speaker 10: A few things? First of all, I got to push

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Speaker 10: back on there's no quarterback hits yet for Shamar Stewart.

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Speaker 10: We do remember in training camp he did the offensive line. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 10: he did, Yes, the offensive line exactly. I mean, so

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Speaker 10: the offensive line couldn't pick up a simple stunt Lucas

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Speaker 10: Patrick shoved him into the franchise quarterback. So he does

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Speaker 10: have one quarterback hit, unfortunately against his own quarterback. But

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Speaker 10: you know, it's a start. I guess he's just got

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Speaker 10: to get him turned around in a different direction and

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Speaker 10: go after the other team instead of his own team.

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Speaker 10: So I just want to make.

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Speaker 1: Sure he gets critical a new point.

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Speaker 9: And again, you.

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Speaker 10: Look at Sam Mars Stewarty. He looks like Miles Garrett, right.

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Speaker 10: I mean he's had a big, strong physical presence, but

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Speaker 10: he plays like Miles Murphy, which doesn't really help matters

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Speaker 10: at all. And I think it all goes back to

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Speaker 10: the guy who's putting the team together. Incredible job security,

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Speaker 10: right for Duke Tobin when you think about it, twenty

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Speaker 10: seven seasons, he's like a Supreme Court justice, right. I mean,

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Speaker 10: they don't get rid of Supreme Court justices. By the way,

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Speaker 10: he's outlasted eight of the current Supreme Court justices.

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Speaker 1: The only Supreme Court justices.

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Speaker 10: Then in his job longer than Duke Tobin is Clarence Thomas.

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Speaker 10: So he's got his job for life and he can

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Speaker 10: do whatever he wants. In fact, when he was hired,

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Speaker 10: and just a few weird things, Bill Clinton was our president,

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Speaker 10: Bill Belichick was a forty six year old assistant head

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Speaker 10: coach with the Jets. Bill Bill Belichick's current significant other

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Speaker 10: wasn't even was born and Joe Burrow was two years old,

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Speaker 10: so he's been in there that long. You know, and

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Speaker 10: the stability. When you think about it, him twenty seven

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Speaker 10: years and only two coaches in twenty three years, you'd

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Speaker 10: say this is the most stable franchise in football. It's

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Speaker 10: like the Steelers or the Ravens, but they're like twenty

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Speaker 10: games under five hundred during that time. So, and the

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Speaker 10: whole idea of having coaches is involved in scouting. Coaches

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Speaker 10: like guys with trade because they think they can coach

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Speaker 10: them up right, where sometimes you just need those productive

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Speaker 10: guys who are going to go out there and make plays.

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Speaker 10: And I saw Kenny Bruski here for twelve years. He

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Speaker 10: didn't grade well at the combine, but man, the guy

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Speaker 10: was involved in more plays than you could think about.

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Speaker 10: He was a football player, especially on the defensive side

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Speaker 10: of the ball. So it's a systemic type of thing

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Speaker 10: that they're dealing with.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, John, appreciate you man. Thanks as always anytime. It

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Speaker 3: is interesting to remember that Shamar Stewart did hit Joe

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Speaker 3: Burrow in training camp.

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Speaker 1: How could we forget? How could we ever.

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Speaker 3: Forget one more call before we take a break and

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Speaker 3: get to read and react.

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Speaker 1: Who do we have here, Austin, I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: don't know who this person is. I put them on

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Speaker 1: hold because we were talking earlier. So caler, if you

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Speaker 1: can hear our voice, you're on the air. What's your name?

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Speaker 6: This is Kim What up?

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Speaker 1: Ken?

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Speaker 6: Hey guys, this is mostly for John from l I

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Speaker 6: mean Mike from LA because I know all you young guys

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Speaker 6: don't like hearing us old parts reminiscent about the old

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Speaker 6: days in baseball. But anyway, and Mike is such a

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Speaker 6: Dodgers fan. Anyway, last night in the World Series, they

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Speaker 6: kept focusing on Sandy Kopax, who, as you probably know,

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Speaker 6: played baseball and basketball at UC. Well, let me take

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Speaker 6: you back to June the first, nineteen sixty three, and

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Speaker 6: to put this in historical context, this is before the

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Speaker 6: summer before President Kennedy was assassinated. I was at Crosley

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Speaker 6: Field at this game with the Reds and the Dodgers

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Speaker 6: joy Ja against Sandy kopas a real pitchers duel. The

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Speaker 6: Reds wonted one to nothing, and I can still see

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Speaker 6: in my mind Vada Pinson around me third and scoring

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Speaker 6: the only run in the game. So and to see

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Speaker 6: Sandy Kofax there and he's eighty nine years old. He

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Speaker 6: looks great. Yeah, it's just so amazing to think back

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Speaker 6: to that time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well said, that's cool, Ken, And good to hear

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Speaker 3: from you man.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Okay, thanks, I see you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I saw the picture of Carl Ravich from ESPN posted

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Speaker 1: with Sandy Kofax. Did you see that, No, where he

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Speaker 1: put his hand up against Kofax's hand, just to show

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Speaker 1: the difference, even at eighty nine years old, between somebody

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Speaker 1: like Carl Ravish, a normal guy in Sandy Kofax, and

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Speaker 1: he had hands that looked like an NFL wide receiver's hands. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And it's a cool picture that Carl Ravish posted on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, it's cool that they keep showing Sandy out there. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: By the way, as you know, Sandy Kofax, University of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Ken said that. Yeah, I did not know he

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Speaker 1: played basketball. You see too though, That's what Ken said.

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Speaker 1: I a dominant athlete. I didn't dominant athlete.

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Speaker 3: Read and React is next to finish out number one

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Speaker 3: ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station. Thanks to Skyline, Chip.

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Speaker 1: Bruzellez, Gideon spin Buzells able to recover off the stin

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Speaker 1: She'll keep it the driple Go show it on to.

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Speaker 8: Him, Monus busellez a little.

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Speaker 1: He's just showing it all right now. You know it's

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Speaker 1: played four games in the season.

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Speaker 8: He says, you know, why, why not, I'm gonna show

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Speaker 8: you all my tricks. And he goes right there and

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Speaker 8: he goes underneath the mar and then finger rolls in

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Speaker 8: with the right hand man.

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Speaker 3: Don't show it all off yet, matass.

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Speaker 1: I can't get enough of this guy. Man Matas number

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Speaker 1: fourteen eleventh overall pick killing it. He looked like Jordan

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Speaker 1: going from one hand to the other in the air

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Speaker 1: finger hole. The Bulls beat the Old Bulls last night.

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Speaker 1: All Our Call on the Chicago Sports Network.

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Speaker 3: the way, that Saturday night kickoff numbers started in places

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Speaker 3: Austin at six and a half, other places at seven.

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Speaker 1: The number is up to ten and a half. Now,

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Speaker 1: what did they know? If we don't know, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to get to the airport tomorrow. Is that running back

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Speaker 1: I'm blanking on prior? Is Evan Pryor? I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: is that worth a heisman? Is he a heisman? Trophy?

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Speaker 6: Will?

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Speaker 3: If he's worth that many points? I don't want to

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Speaker 3: I don't want to sound like a homer you are,

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Speaker 3: I know. I think Manny Covey's a good back. I

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Speaker 3: think their third back is good. Uh, they're gonna miss

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Speaker 3: a little bit, but they still got tywee walker Sowresby

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Speaker 3: will probably use his legs a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: Ten and a half.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna get to the airport tomorrow, Austin. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: have a roster in my hand. I'm gonna get the

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Speaker 3: window seat, and I'm just gonna go through the roster.

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Speaker 3: As guys are getting on the plane and seeing like,

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Speaker 3: is someone wearing a boot that I don't know about?

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Speaker 3: Is everyone here? Is everyone getting on the plane plane?

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Speaker 3: Is anyone wearing mask?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 3: Is anyone potentially sick? What is going on that this

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Speaker 3: number keeps going up? I would also suggests that now

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Speaker 3: let me ask you.

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Speaker 1: This is it? The hand painted helmets now on the plane?

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Speaker 1: Are you you know that you're a Hall of Famer?

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Speaker 1: You up top? No first class? You know it's funny

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Speaker 1: because last you and Horde I figure one A and

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Speaker 1: one b.

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Speaker 3: Our last away game. You see football put out like

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Speaker 3: a diagram. Have you ever seen like the lunch table diagram? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they put out a diagram of like if these people

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Speaker 3: are on the plane, where would you want to sit

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Speaker 3: And like Sowresby was in one of them, and Corleone

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Speaker 3: was in another, and then Hoard was in like seat

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Speaker 3: two AA, and it's like who would you want to

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Speaker 3: sit by. We got to the airport, Hord and I

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Speaker 3: were in the same row thirty one. There's only thirty

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Speaker 3: two on the plane. And and Dan carry on its back

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Speaker 3: there as well. We hang towards the back of the plane.

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Speaker 3: We get on first.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's where you're trying to just sit back there

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Speaker 1: and stay quiet. Do you want to read and react? Now,

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Speaker 1: let's read and react? All right, only four of them.

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Speaker 1: Let's run through them. Okay quickly. This is from our

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Speaker 1: go at NFL pro No thistreed and react supposed to

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Speaker 1: be getting all this new image see what happens. Bears

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Speaker 1: running backs have been contacted behind the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 1: on just thirty eight point nine percent of carries. That's

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Speaker 1: the third lowest mark in the league this season. Additionally,

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Speaker 1: they have had room to operate behind the line of

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Speaker 1: scrimmage as they're one and a half yards before contact

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Speaker 1: per carry ranks is the seventh highest mark. Entering Week nine,

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Speaker 1: the Bengals have contacted running backs at the lowest rate

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Speaker 1: in the league thirty. Running Backs have also averaged one

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Speaker 1: and a half yards before contact per carry against the Bengals,

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Speaker 1: which is the sixth highest YIPS. So that is a

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Speaker 1: matchup that does not vode well for the Bengals. Bears

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Speaker 1: run all over the Bengals. Yeah, is basically what that

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Speaker 1: tells me.

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Speaker 3: I when I initially see this, I am concerned because

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Speaker 3: I was already concerned with Deanre Swift going into the game.

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Speaker 3: It was concerned because of him as a runner, but

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Speaker 3: also him as a pass catcher. There's an explosiveness with

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Speaker 3: DeAndre Swift and the lack of tackling from the Bengals

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Speaker 3: is worrisome to me coming off of last week's game.

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Speaker 3: That to me is like Brice Hall. Brice Hall literally

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Speaker 3: laughed at the Bengals because of how he made them miss.

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Speaker 3: And now here's a team that is not allowing much

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Speaker 3: penetration in the run game, that is moving and winning

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Speaker 3: at the line of scrimmage. That to me is even

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Speaker 3: more room for DeAndre Swift to get downhill on these carries,

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Speaker 3: which if the Bengals can't correct, that is going to.

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Speaker 1: Be a long day. Again, going back to the defensive line,

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Speaker 1: and our next one's about the defensive line as well.

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Speaker 1: If you're not getting to the ball carrier until one

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Speaker 1: and a half yards past the line of scrimmage, trouble,

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Speaker 1: you're getting your You're getting smoked off the line of

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Speaker 1: so you're getting dominated in the trenches. The Bengals have

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Speaker 1: generated pressure on twenty seven point two percent of dropbacks,

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Speaker 1: the fourth lowest mark entering Week nine. I'd love to

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Speaker 1: see the other three. Joseph Osai twenty three and Trey

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Speaker 1: Hendrickson twenty three have accounted for nearly half of the

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Speaker 1: Bengals pressures this season forty three point eight percent of them,

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Speaker 1: although Hendrickson left early in Week eight. Outside of Osai

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Speaker 1: and Hendrickson, the next closest defender is Miles Murphy with eleven.

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Speaker 1: The Bears have allowed a pressure on thirty point six

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Speaker 1: percent of dropbacks, the ninth lowest rate in the league.

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Speaker 3: Well, I throw the last part away because we did

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Speaker 3: read and react last week and we talked about how

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Speaker 3: bad the Jets were upfront and pass protection and the

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Speaker 3: Bengals couldn't get home. And I take that a step further.

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Speaker 3: Now we know that this team has not been good

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Speaker 3: stopping the run. We know they've not been able to

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Speaker 3: get after the passer. The problem when you have a

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Speaker 3: defense like this Austin that can do neither, you just

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Speaker 3: don't have the secondary to be able to help you.

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Speaker 1: You can't.

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Speaker 3: There are teams that may be bad against the run,

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Speaker 3: but they're good after getting after the passer or vice versa.

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Speaker 3: When you can do neither, you allow a team to

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Speaker 3: be balanced. You put more pressure on your back end.

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Speaker 3: We knew coming into the year that it was going

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Speaker 3: to be a question mark for this group up front,

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Speaker 3: the fact that you might not have Trey Hendrickson, who

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Speaker 3: along with Joseph Osai, accounts for half of those pressures.

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Speaker 3: Caleb Williams should be very comfortable in the pocket, and

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Speaker 3: then it goes to Al Golden Austin. Do you, if

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Speaker 3: you're Al Golden, do you try to drum up more pressures.

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Speaker 1: Twenty four point eight percent of snaps last week? Did

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Speaker 1: he blitz? Yes, you might have to keep it, you

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Speaker 1: mut pretty long.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you might have to raise that rate, especially with

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Speaker 3: Kayleb Williams and maybe lead him into some confusion.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk a little bit about how that affects

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Speaker 1: the back end. DJ Turner, OH has spent the series

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Speaker 1: zero point six to three seconds per coverage snap in

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Speaker 1: tight coverage this season, the second highest mark among cornerbacks

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Speaker 1: with at least one hundred coverage snaps. Consequently, Turner has

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Speaker 1: made a play on the ball on thirty five point

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Speaker 1: one percent of his targets, the highest mark among that

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Speaker 1: same group. He has a league high thirteen passes defensed,

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Speaker 1: including two interceptions.

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Speaker 3: It just makes things so much easier on a defensive

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Speaker 3: coordinator if you have a guy that you feel confident

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Speaker 3: in saying, Okay, we know that if he's in coverage,

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Speaker 3: we're good there. Let's focus on the other ten. That

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Speaker 3: is a weapon that DJ Turner brings to you right now.

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Speaker 3: And I wonder as the season rolls on Austin. Do

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Speaker 3: we start to see DJ Turner travel more with the

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Speaker 3: opposing number one wide receiver because there's I feel like

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Speaker 3: there's just a huge drop off between Turner and anybody

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Speaker 3: else covering on this team. Do you put him on

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Speaker 3: a dunes more and say wherever he lines up, DJ

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Speaker 3: Turner is lining up, or do you allow him to

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Speaker 3: play field versus boundary. There's no doubt about it. He's

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Speaker 3: been their best defender win on the field. He's covering,

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Speaker 3: he's making plays on the ball, he's being physical. I

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Speaker 3: don't think you could ask any more than the progression

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Speaker 3: of what DJ Turner's giving you.

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Speaker 1: Not that it matters because Garrett Wilson and Sauce Gardner

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Speaker 1: didn't play, for example, last week. But DJ Moore, Roma

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Speaker 1: Dunsa and Luther Burden the third the top three wide

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Speaker 1: receivers for the Bears, none of them pra just yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Oh that doesn't matter. Speaking of wide receivers, Jamar Chase

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Speaker 1: will finish off with this. In three games with Flacco

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Speaker 1: at quarterback, he's been targeted fifty four times. Wow, that's

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Speaker 1: forty five point eight percent of the Bengals target share

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Speaker 1: during that span. However, nearly two thirds of Chase's targets

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Speaker 1: have come under ten air yards sixty two point nine percent,

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Speaker 1: with two hundred eleven of his three hundred and forty

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Speaker 1: six yards coming on those targets. Chase has average just

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Speaker 1: six point four yards per target with Placo at quarterback,

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Speaker 1: down from eight point three yards per target prior to

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Speaker 1: Week six.

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Speaker 3: Fifty four targets in three games is unbelievable, but I

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Speaker 3: think you understand and can see why.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 3: One, they don't have the offensive lineability to hold up

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Speaker 3: for deeper developing routes.

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Speaker 1: Two, when you're keeping it.

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Speaker 3: Simple for the Joe Flacco and playing fast, getting the

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Speaker 3: ball out is the best thing you can do. And three,

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Speaker 3: I do think that that rate in which they're getting

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Speaker 3: the ball out quick point four yards per target under

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Speaker 3: ten yards in the air almost sixty three percent of

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Speaker 3: the time. What I think that does is slow that

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Speaker 3: pass rush down just a little bit and helps open

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Speaker 3: But getting the ball to Jamar Chase's hands and getting

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