1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: By the way, this is kind of a drop in. 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 2: We'll get to some calls even before calls on the 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 2: fifteenth in just a second. But I'm told the NFL 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: is gonna start playing regular season games on Saturday, like 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: all season, not just at the end of the season, 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: but maybe beginning next year, going head to head with 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: college football on Saturdays, like a game or two every Saturday. 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: And that'd be. 9 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: Another TV deal on streaming or whatever, more money for 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: the NFL. Now it totally defecates on college football. But 11 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,959 Speaker 2: college football is so badly fed itself up in the NFL. 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: Don't care, never did, but now they're just going to 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 2: keep growing, keep moving, keep monopolizing. That'd be NFL games 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: on Sunday, Monday, Thursday, and Saturday and on Christmas, the Holidays, etc. 15 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: It's too much, and I hate it, but I'm sure 16 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: you love it. The networks love it, and the sportsbook 17 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: love it too. Let's go to Newman. Hello Newman, Hello Jerry. 18 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 3: My question, so, when was the last time the Steelers 19 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: did not have a wide receiver who was guilty of 20 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 3: detrimental office field shenanigans. 21 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: Well that's a whole other conversation, Newman. But you're right, 22 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: I mean, well, no, what ab. 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 4: Uh. 24 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: Obviously Pickens Juju was just a big kid. 25 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 2: He was not as helpful except for the one season 26 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: you know, when his stats did blossom when he was 27 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: AB's understudy, and obviously ab was insane. But don't you 28 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: think that's symptomatic of wide receivers in the league in general. 29 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was gonna be my next question, whether this 30 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: is just sort of like a you know, bias for 31 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 3: the team that you watch, whereas if you look around 32 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: the league, we would find that there's plenty of that 33 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 3: to go around. 34 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: And don't forget, nobody coaches no more. 35 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: There's no accountability like I've been talking about with the Steelers, 36 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: there's no discipline. I mean, remember Tom Cocklan and Jacksonville, 37 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: how the players hated him, but he always had good teams. 38 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: You could never be Tom Cocklan and coaching this league. Now, 39 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: you could never be Bill Belichick, well not the old 40 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: Bill Belichick and coaching this league now. There's just no 41 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: call for that kind of coach. Let's go to Todd. Todd, 42 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: you're all with Mark Mark. 43 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 5: He made such a great point at the end of 44 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 5: the game with our going to the wide receiver but 45 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 5: you don't else bothered me. You know, they made a 46 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 5: big deal about Miles Garrett, but you know we're going 47 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 5: against Ward for three straight plays. That's their pro bowler 48 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 5: on the corner who's been shut down, has had a 49 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 5: great year, and we went after him and then earlier 50 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 5: in the game and Nance and Rum we even know that. 51 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 5: I'm sure you mentioned it. 52 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: You know they had a linebacker. 53 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 5: It's a pretty good linebacker. It was all banged up 54 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 5: all game long on one legon we couldn't exploit the 55 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 5: middle of the field with two great tight ends. I 56 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 5: thought Aaron Rodgers would see this. He thinks he knows everything. 57 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 5: He's right on. 58 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: Top of it. 59 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 5: How could we not have exploited that on one end 60 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 5: and the other stay away from Ward through to the 61 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 5: other side. You use empts with that, I don't care. 62 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: But you used fire mouth, used the middle. 63 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: Like you said, Todd, this was very close to a 64 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: properly analytical call by a by by a. 65 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: Listener, and I don't want that to become a trend. 66 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, you've made You've made great points, no question, 67 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: and if you want to boil it, don Basically, why 68 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: go to MVS three straight times and why go after 69 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: Denzel Ward three straight times? Because it didn't work? And 70 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: by the way, did you think that was interference on 71 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: Ward at the end? 72 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: Did not see? 73 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 4: I did not. 74 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: I thought if it. 75 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: Was interference, it was very marginally so and so not 76 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: a call I would make if I'm the. 77 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 6: Ref, I agree. 78 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. 79 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: By the way, the dipsticks who blame the ref the 80 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: officiating for yesterday's loss, My god, my god. Uh, let's 81 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: take one more quickie, Chris, Chris, you're on with double m. 82 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 7: Hey, Yeah, real quick. 83 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 3: It's uh that that Penguin game with Mario le Muke 84 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 3: my buddies. I'm in my mid fifties. We got tickets. 85 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: Wing them back here your phone, socks. 86 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: Let's go to Chuck Chuck your own double. 87 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: M hey, Mark, Chuck real quick, real quick. 88 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 3: Common deserves to be bashed. Chuck Nolan never needed to 89 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: be bashed. Coward didn't need to. 90 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: Be Noel deserves to be bashed. At the end of 91 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: his career, they held on him a bit too long, 92 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 2: uh Cower. Whenever he did bad, it wound up with 93 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: them getting Ben Roethlisberger. Sometimes you have to go six 94 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: and eleven or better yet, three and fourteen is what 95 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: the Steelers need now more than anything, More than anything, 96 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 2: They need that kind of season and that kind of pick, 97 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: that kind of season to maybe, at long last get 98 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 2: them to see themselves as they are and to get 99 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 2: that pick. 100 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 4: I agree, Thank you for the call. 101 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: And by the way, if you ain't noticed that everything 102 00:04:55,080 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: I say comes true might take a while. I said 103 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: the pick and Kenny Pickle would set them back five years. 104 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: I may have been wrong. It may be more than 105 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: five years. 106 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 2: Get your calls in now for Steelers ANGST calls on 107 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: the fifteens eight three, three, four one two w. 108 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: XDX alter you go? 109 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 8: Are you run? 110 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 2: How you liking? 111 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 6: Nappy d X at one oh five nine? 112 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: Crassics up next. 113 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: But right now it's time for calls on the fifteens, 114 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: which we still don't have a sponsor for because well, 115 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: it's more important to get the DV morning show sponsored. 116 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: I've known that for years. I'm not bothered except when 117 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: I am. Let's go to our good friend the Hebrew 118 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: hammer hammer y x cha. 119 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 9: Mash euction mash Mark. Hey, I I do believe Garrett 120 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 9: when he said the Steelers were distracted by him, because 121 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 9: that mentality would be consistent with the Steelers for the 122 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 9: last ten years or so. Uh, the Steelers will rather 123 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 9: come out of that game with letting him get that sock, 124 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 9: then let him get four socks and win. 125 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: I don't think that's true at all. I think they 126 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 2: paid no more attention to Garrett than they would in 127 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: any game. I don't think those numbers figured into it. 128 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 2: I mean, I can see where people would think that, because, 129 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 2: like I said, that would be a Steelers level of 130 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: Petty Tom Petty. 131 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: But I just I just don't see it. 132 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 9: Hey, if you had to get get rid of one 133 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 9: of these, I'm gonna give you three choices. 134 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 4: Who would you get rid of? 135 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 9: Valdez, Gantling, ax On, Valdez. 136 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 4: Valdez, that's your cue excellence? 137 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 6: Wammy? 138 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: What's good at Dave? 139 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 6: Dave? 140 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: You're on the air? 141 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 6: Can day? 142 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: Mark? 143 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: I said, good. 144 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 3: Day, Good day, Mark Man. 145 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 7: I am so over this team and this coach. I mean, 146 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 7: this guy actually stood up and said with a straight face, 147 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 7: I didn't think we played poorly. We just didn't make 148 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 7: enough plays. 149 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: Like they could not. They were terrible, right right. 150 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 7: If you lost the brows with the playoffs on the line, 151 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 7: you played Borley Man. 152 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 10: The names changed, same crap pro. 153 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: That's the thing though. He's just so full of crap. 154 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: And and when he talks to the local media, he's 155 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: in a room full of people who fear him and 156 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: all want to get dal Wawley's old job with the team. 157 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: And God blessed Dan. 158 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 7: Right, may he rust in peace. But like, like you know, 159 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 7: even if they do tank and get a high pickaball 160 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 7: it matter. This guy doesn't have a coach that can 161 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 7: develop a quarterback. They couldn't have turned the league will 162 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 7: listen to what he did the other day. 163 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 6: I don't know. 164 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 2: I was telling my friends that was the one day 165 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: thing we shouldn't overreact to Malik Willis as I intend 166 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: to punch deprecate on at link tomorrow. 167 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 7: Now, you're right, But I was telling some of my 168 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 7: buddies because, like you know, for the longest time, the 169 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 7: Raiders were never going to be any good as long 170 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 7: as Al. 171 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 3: Davis was still around. 172 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 7: And the Cowboys are there with Jerry Jones. I feel 173 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 7: like the Steelers there with Mike Tomlin. I know he 174 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 7: ain't the owner, but he might as well be, because 175 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 7: he's never going to leave that team unless he wants to. 176 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 7: Like I don't know what you what say? 177 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 6: You? 178 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: Well, I think Guard's a soft owner, and you're right, 179 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 2: Tomlin's taken over if if if, if Tom win, you know, 180 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: we're a good coach and you know, had you surped 181 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: all the power, he hasn't done good with it. Assembled 182 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: a better roster than Art being a soft owner wouldn't 183 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: be nearly the problem it is. Let's go to Mike. Mike, 184 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: you're on with Mark? 185 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 11: What up mine? 186 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 187 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 11: I mean Mark, you know, I think also just pointing 188 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 11: out that outside of a blown, you know, offensive p 189 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 11: I in the Lion game, they're they're going to finish 190 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 11: this season with another three straight losses and missing the playoffs. 191 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 11: So just another late season clap. 192 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: You know, you win, you win when you win. 193 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 2: You can make the argument that and I don't think 194 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: that was a bad call on that OPI that that 195 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: cost the Lions either of those touchdowns. 196 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: I thought the proper call. 197 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 2: Was made both times, but you know it could have 198 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: been interference on Denzel Ward at the end yesterday too. 199 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: You win or you lose, and you can't explain a 200 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 2: result of being something different. 201 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 3: That's fair. 202 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 11: And then on the Malik Willis thing that I was 203 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 11: just thinking of and I'm not saying he's the answer, 204 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 11: but I don't think they would ever bring him in 205 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 11: because you know, Toman would have to admit that he 206 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 11: was wrong in his evaluation of Kenny Pickett versus League Willis. 207 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 11: So I don't think that would ever happen. 208 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 2: It wouldn't shot me if that figured in. Then again, 209 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 2: if they blow this any port in a storm. Let's 210 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: go to Randy. 211 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, Mark, you remember years ago Brett fahr was 212 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 4: I think it was Michael Strahan they were playing against. 213 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, one straight, he needed one more sack, and Brett 214 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: fahv laid down for him and let him get the 215 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: sack in the waiting minutes of the final game of 216 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 2: the season, which forever taints the record. By the way, 217 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 2: that record right now, to my mind, belongs solely to TJ. 218 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: Watt and Mark Gastineau should have never had it taken away. 219 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: The NFL should have overturned that sack. 220 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 4: Do you think that would have just reduced a distraction 221 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 4: if he did that to Miles Garrett, just get it 222 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 4: over with. 223 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't do that. You don't lay down in 224 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: the game. Thank you for the call. Let's go to Jake. 225 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 10: Yeah, Mark, I'm just so frustrated with the chatter about 226 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 10: this past interference at the end of the game. 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He 274 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 2: now hosts a great podcast with our buddy Charlie Batch. 275 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: Always a pleasure to talk to Trey essex Trade. Let 276 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: me start with a real basic question, how on earth 277 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: did the Steelers screw that game up? 278 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 6: If I knew the answer to that, I'd be an 279 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 6: NFL head coach. I guess, but I mean, I don't know. 280 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 3: Man. 281 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 6: It was, like you said, I am thoroughly depressed by 282 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 6: the showing that we put on display yesterday. I don't 283 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 6: know how you come into a game early on with 284 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 6: the defense. It's lacking the energy. This is a very 285 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 6: this is a bad Cleveland team, a very bad Cleveland 286 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 6: offense led by two rookies that quarterback and their number 287 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 6: one wide receivers, a tight end, and they're they're actually 288 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 6: missing their best offensive weapon, Jackins, who got hurt a 289 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 6: couple of weeks ago. So it just the defense did 290 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 6: not set the proper tone by stopping them and putting 291 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 6: a lot of pressure. Now, granted, Weather played the part, 292 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 6: but I don't think they played that big of a part, 293 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 6: and it was just and then the office can NAVI 294 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 6: get going. So everything as a whole nothing worked, and 295 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 6: there were some bone headed play calls and execution errors 296 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 6: that were just beyond me at this point in the season. 297 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 6: For a team that's this veteran laden going against a rookie, 298 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 6: like a rookie heavy Cleveland Browns team, it just I 299 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 6: don't know how to explain to. 300 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: Mark Well play calls, bad execution. Give me a couple 301 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: of examples, Trey, what bothered you the worst? 302 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 6: Fourth and one? Called the Scotty Miller when it happened, 303 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 6: and it was shaved of back Canada all over again. 304 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 6: This is fourth and one. We had just executed a 305 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 6: wonderful uh fake option tush push push tush with Connor Hayward. 306 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 6: It was fantastic and we had been doing that amazingly, 307 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 6: so I think we only missed one this entire season. 308 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 6: So why go against the gram and go against something 309 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 6: that's been working time and time again. Not only that, 310 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 6: Jalen Warren had been running the ball excellent side, we 311 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 6: were getting excellent push between Zach Stephen Anderson and and 312 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 6: uh McCormick on the right guard. The inside was doing 313 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 6: their work, and that's where they are weakens. That's where 314 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 6: Cleveland is a very good defense, but they are a 315 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 6: middling run defensive team. And so we were actually doing 316 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 6: good at what I thought was the game plan going 317 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 6: into this game. And that's a heavy dose of warning. 318 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 6: Gangwell game well didn't have a reception or a target 319 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 6: in the second half, which is just beyond on me. 320 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 6: But that's Scotty Miller play fourth and one going into empty, 321 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 6: which is just beyond me. It's against everything that I 322 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 6: thought Arthur Smith wanted to be as an offense, and 323 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 6: to throw that fade route to somebody who hadn't been 324 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 6: active for two weeks, who I know doesn't have a 325 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 6: good rapport, smallest wide receiver, that play hadn't worked the 326 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 6: entire year, really all year, because we don't have a 327 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 6: George Piggets to go get those deep balls anymore, which 328 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 6: is a problem within himself. And that play call is 329 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 6: just it exemplifies of what we've been this entire season, 330 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 6: and that's just confusion and not knowing what we want 331 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 6: to do as an offense. 332 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: No, I totally agree, and it begs the question. 333 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: I think that's got to be Aaron Rodgers wanting to 334 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: do that, wanting to do what he's comfortable with him. 335 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: By way of validating what you said about the one working, 336 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: they were averaging five and a half yards per carry. 337 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 2: They never trailed by more than one score after early 338 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: in the second quarter, so it's not like they had 339 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: to throw tray. Yet they passed almost twice as much 340 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 2: as they ran. 341 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 6: It makes literally no sense. The thing that got us 342 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 6: this three game winning streak was Warren and gang Well, 343 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 6: and of course including DK in there. Obviously his absence 344 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 6: was big, but without them you would think it's not 345 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 6: rocket science, it's what should we do? Go to our 346 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 6: two best playmakers, gang Well and Warren. Warren and Gangwell. 347 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 6: You saw what Baltimore did. They rectified the mistake they 348 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 6: made last week against New England and not giving the 349 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 6: ball to Derrick Henry. What did they do against green 350 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 6: Bay when the thing was, when everything was on the line, 351 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 6: when the playoff spot was at the hill? They ran 352 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 6: Derrick Henry and what did they do? They blew green 353 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 6: Bay out despite the league Willis having a great game 354 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 6: and despite the offense really doing against Baltimore defense with 355 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 6: a law offensive had offenses have. But Tyler Huntley made 356 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 6: some good plays and Derrick Henry ran the ball. That's 357 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 6: why they won. That's why that we're gonna get a 358 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 6: heavy dose of Derrick Henry this week as well. But 359 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 6: you would think, seeing and knowing what has been successful 360 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 6: for us as an offense, and your number one playmaker 361 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 6: is out, why are your next two playmakers not getting 362 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 6: the ball? Why did Jamie Warren only had twelve carries 363 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 6: no catches? And why is Kenneth Gangwell not getting the 364 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 6: ball in the second half after the amazing game last 365 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 6: week had last week, you're overthinking. They're trying to be 366 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 6: the smartest people in the room and it's a lot 367 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 6: of egotistical play calling happening. 368 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, right right on the money trail. 369 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 2: Let me let me revisit a sequence I didn't like 370 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: and at the end you had the pass because the 371 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 2: clock you couldn't risk, you know, a tackle being made 372 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: in bonds. But why did they go three straight times 373 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 2: to mvs covered by their best corner, Denzel Ward when 374 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 2: you got down the field thrown at the mooth. 375 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 6: I have a theory, I think, and Aaron in his 376 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 6: last year, I think is hell bent on getting these 377 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 6: quote unquote cast offs some shine. I think he thinks 378 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 6: he's the only one that can do that. NBS has 379 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 6: been on a teams. It is well documented that his 380 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 6: greatest strength is the deep ball. All he's six to 381 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 6: four and to run, that's the strength. He is not 382 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 6: a contest pass catcher. He that is not his forte. 383 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: But alone against denzil Ward, Trey. 384 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 6: Against Denzel war and the first two plays they weren't 385 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 6: on the same page, and why would they be. He's 386 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 6: not been in this offense for a month. He's only 387 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 6: been active for what two or three weeks. So in 388 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 6: the most pressure pack of situations, you going to a 389 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 6: guy who just hasn't been there long enough. You don't 390 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:42,959 Speaker 6: have the report that you had when you were in 391 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 6: Green Bay, and you're not throwing to him at his strength, 392 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 6: and you got down there by using friar moves, and 393 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 6: you're going against a compromise middle line. I don't know 394 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 6: if anybody else saw that, but number forty nine, God 395 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 6: bless hus. Sorry, he was battles his butt off, but 396 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 6: he could not run. He was hobbling out there. 397 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: He couldn't even watch Trey right, And we who. 398 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 6: Is on the sideline talking to Aaron or is he 399 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 6: did he when in the second half when he was like, 400 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 6: don't talk to me, get out of my ear. Did 401 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 6: they just cut off all communication and did not tell 402 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 6: him there's a compromise Noll linebacker, because anybody with any 403 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 6: kind of experience would attack that. That's like basic one 404 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 6: on one stuff. And you hear him my voice, Man, 405 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 6: you're getting me amped up all over again. 406 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no question. And not not just you, Trey. 407 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 2: We're talking to Trey Essex here on one oh five 408 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 2: nine the X Trey. If DK plays, did they. 409 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 6: Win, Yes, they win. I think if Darniel Washington don't 410 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 6: get hurt, they win. 411 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: Really, see you and I have always been on a 412 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 2: different page with that. I would rather play Friarmouth than 413 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 2: John New than Washington. I just think they got enamored 414 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 2: with him because of his size. But he's only had 415 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 2: the one big moment all year. 416 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 6: I'm not saying from a passion standpoint. I think it 417 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 6: was a domino effect once he went out because once 418 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 6: that happened, Spencer Anderson had to play a lot more 419 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 6: tight end, which means Pete had to play more left 420 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 6: guard and just the personnel standpoint, I think dictated what 421 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 6: play calls Arthur Smith was calling. So it's not necessarily 422 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 6: because he's the best pass catcher, because I thought this 423 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 6: should have been Taylor made for a friar move game, 424 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 6: whether Darnett was playing or not. Yeah, but I think 425 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 6: the domino effect of him going out made us scramble 426 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 6: a little bit. 427 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 2: How do you beat Baltimore, because I mean, this can 428 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 2: all be undone if you beat Baltimore, I mean you 429 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 2: got to play your old guys, which you wouldn't have. 430 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: But if you beat Baltimore, at least win the playoff, 431 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: win the division to make the playoffs. 432 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 6: You stop Dereck Henry, you make Zay Flower and Usha 433 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 6: Bateman beat you and Andrews. That is the only way 434 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 6: you win this game. That defense is not scary at all. 435 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 6: You should be able to run and pass on them. 436 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 6: But I mean, who knows without DK what this offense 437 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 6: is going to look like on Sunday or if they 438 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 6: can't rectify the mistakes and just the non effectiveness of 439 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 6: this offense in a week's time. I hope they can, 440 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 6: but you have to stop there. That is the first, second, third, 441 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 6: and last thing that you have to do in order 442 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 6: to win this game. 443 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: Well, easier said than done. 444 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 2: And you have blocked for a lot of big backs, 445 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 2: a lot of punishing backs. What's that like to be 446 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 2: out there when the other team's just getting tired of 447 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 2: tackling the guy. 448 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: You could tell that with Green. 449 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: Bay, especially them, because they weren't playing for nothing Saturday night, 450 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 2: they looked like they just wanted to go home. 451 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: About midway through the second quarter. 452 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 6: Oh, they were hurting. They were definitely trying to and 453 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 6: he was going downhill. It looked painful as they were trying, 454 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 6: as they were bouncing off of him. That's why he 455 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 6: is who he is. That's why he's a future Hall 456 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 6: of Famer. And if you look at his numbers, his 457 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 6: best his best time of year is December January football. 458 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 6: He just runs defenses down. I do question, and I'm 459 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 6: hoping that there is some fatigue. Thirty six carres for 460 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 6: a thirty one year old, that is a lot. 461 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, but the last two weeks he didn't carry much. 462 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 2: I know it adds up. You're wait thirty six in 463 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 2: one week, but still, I don't know. I think he'll come. 464 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: At him early anyway. 465 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 2: I think maybe in the second half, he'd be a 466 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 2: little worn out. 467 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, and Mark, look, I'm with a grant of Saw. 468 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 6: I'm still absolutely terrified. 469 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 1: Of him, but I'm hoping that me too. 470 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 6: I'm hoping there is some wear and tearing that it 471 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 6: comes to fruition on Sunday. He's a little worn out, 472 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 6: but yeah, that is absolutely the only way he could 473 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 6: win this game is if you stopped Derek. 474 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 2: What about Lamar being like fifty to fifty to play, 475 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 2: and I'm told probably not Trey because he is the 476 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 2: wonky back dude. I mean, obviously he's an MVP, but 477 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 2: I still think they're still okay with Snoop Puntley. He 478 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 2: can run the same plays and maybe it makes them 479 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: concentrate more on using Henry. 480 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 6: I definitely want Lamar to play because he is compromising. 481 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 6: He hasn't looked good all year. Tyler Huntley last week 482 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 6: was the best the quarterback position has looked all year 483 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 6: for Baltimore, and that's true. When he has Derek Harry 484 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 6: running like that, any quarterback is going to be a 485 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 6: lot better. But what makes it terrifying is that he 486 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 6: is just as not Lamar Jackson good with his legs 487 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 6: and breaking contain and scrambling, but he is effective and 488 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 6: he did that against Green Bay as well. So you 489 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 6: can't take them lightly because he came through and won 490 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 6: the game when they needed to last week and played 491 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 6: really well. 492 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 2: What happened to Baltimore? Tray you you touched on some 493 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 2: of their problems on the defensive line. I looked at 494 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 2: their roster before the season. I really liked him. I 495 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: thought they could do some damage. 496 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: What happened. 497 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 6: I think this is my opinion. There are some players 498 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:42,239 Speaker 6: who defense has built their defensive around. Some players can 499 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 6: are that important, and Baltimore has always built their defense 500 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 6: around their d tackles. They're unsung heroes. They don't get 501 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 6: the shined that a lot of people do, but they've 502 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 6: always had And they've lost their best defensive lineman to 503 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 6: start the year, and I think that just threw them 504 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 6: in court tailspin because they haven't been able to stop 505 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 6: the running their system bases. They haven't got any pressure. 506 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 6: They there aren't any named pass rushers for this team. 507 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 6: They don't have a junon, they don't have a sugge. 508 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 6: They don't have I can't think of Paul Johnson from 509 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 6: back in the day like these guys aren't there anymore, 510 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 6: and so there's nothing scary about the defensive line for 511 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 6: the Baltimore and they've always had that, and when they 512 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 6: lost their all Pro guy at the beginning of the year, 513 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 6: I think that's what really set the stage for them 514 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 6: not to play as well as they normally have historically 515 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 6: have on the defensive side of the ball. 516 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: I don't really want to make a pick for the 517 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 2: game yet. I want to see how the week plays 518 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 2: out with injuries. But I gotta tell you, Trey, I 519 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 2: think that the Steelers come out and get a lead 520 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: and you know, manage it they win the game. I 521 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 2: think that was what they needed to do in Cleveland. 522 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 2: I thought the only chance Cleveland had was to get 523 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 2: those points early. And really I think if these Steelers 524 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 2: can avoid that with Baltimore, I think they they should win. 525 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 3: I do too. 526 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 6: They definitely need to get out to a lead early. 527 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,479 Speaker 6: They're at home. They got to use the advantage of 528 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 6: being at home at this stage. I don't think and 529 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 6: maybe you get correct in your mark for any significant 530 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 6: game against Baltimore at home outside, I can't think of 531 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 6: one that we've lost. It seems like we always win 532 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 6: those games when it counts against Baltimore. 533 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 2: At home, like like eighty eighty five percent of them 534 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 2: for sure. But here's one thing that worries me in 535 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: that Vein trade. They almost always split the series with them, 536 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 2: and Pittsburgh wanted Baltimore. I mean, I hate to read 537 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 2: into stuff like that, but boy, I'm grasping here because 538 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 2: I really don't know what's gonna happen. 539 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, this is what the Steelers do to you. 540 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 6: Look how good we said after the last three weeks, 541 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 6: I mean we were on cloud nine, and in the 542 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 6: back of my head, I was like, break yourself, be 543 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 6: cautiously optimistic, don't be too too happy, because you know 544 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 6: this team is capable of breaking your heart. And that's 545 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 6: what they did the first time we won three in 546 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 6: a row to start the year. We looked horrible in 547 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 6: that fourth game. And so I don't know our max 548 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 6: right now is three games in a row. But this 549 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 6: is definitely a game that's winnable. It's at home, and 550 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 6: they're locking their wounds hopefully. I mean, TJ coming back 551 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 6: should be a help because Nick Herbig does not look healthy. 552 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 6: He hasn't looked like Nick Herbert gonna be in a 553 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 6: year since he's come back from injuries, and that's been 554 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 6: the thing during this run. Alex Heismith has been playing great, 555 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 6: but we have not had a consistent pass rush and 556 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 6: we didn't have one against Cleveland until Alex got a 557 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 6: little bit of pressure towards the end. And I hope TJ, 558 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 6: after having three weeks off, hopefully he's always healthy you 559 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 6: can come back in them and have a big impact, 560 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 6: because you definitely need some impact place coming via the 561 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 6: pass rush. 562 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 2: Trey, I know you're a Tomlin guy, you played for him, 563 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 2: you one with them, But if they lose this game 564 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 2: and missed the playoffs, does this team need to shake up? 565 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 6: It's trending in that direction. And what's troubling. And this 566 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 6: is a t shirting hat game that we like to 567 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 6: call it when it's for the division and yep, and 568 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 6: they did not come to play. And I saw that record, 569 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 6: that that record that I've never seen a stat like 570 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 6: that before where the Steelers going against a team that's 571 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 6: eight games below five hundred since twenty twenty, they're oh 572 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 6: four and one or oh five and one. It's that's troubling, 573 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 6: like you can't go and in order for it to 574 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 6: be eight games under five hundred, it has to be 575 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 6: mid season or later. So you're losing these games. They 576 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 6: are crucial parts of the year, yep, exactly when when 577 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 6: the games are the most important, and going against teams 578 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 6: that have are probably you know, getting ready to playing 579 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 6: at their vacations, they are trying to position themselves their 580 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 6: draft picks. These are like the worst of the worst teams, 581 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,959 Speaker 6: and you're losing to them consistently, and that's his resume. 582 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 6: He has to own it. And this on the heels 583 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 6: of all the stuff that's happened this year. They've been 584 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 6: using the same formula of using the stat stop gap 585 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 6: quarterbacks and not truly developing offense by identity last four 586 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 6: years outside of just you know, these quick jet sweeps 587 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 6: and tosses and stuff that aren't effective. Tomlin has to 588 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 6: own that. And this is nineteen years and it's longer 589 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 6: than what marviin Leu has got when he was showing 590 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 6: the same type of mediocrity. 591 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 2: So yeah, Trey is always great stuff. Great work on 592 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 2: the pod with Charlie. We'll talk again real soon. Enjoy 593 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: the football all. 594 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 6: I appreciate it. 595 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: Happy to you here, Mark, and happy newer to you. Trey. 596 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 2: Trey Esseks, great guy, great podcast. Great to have him 597 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: on the show. Two times super Bowl champion with the Steelers. 598 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 2: Now it's time to ask Mark anything brought to us 599 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: by People's hyphengaest dot Com. 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But right now, let's go to 621 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 2: big Z big Z ask Mark anything. 622 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 4: Penlblem Hey, Now, yeah, So just wanted to get your take, 623 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 4: you know, with this Crede that just went down with 624 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 4: Columbus and this chrinkin Off guy that we just picked up. 625 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 4: And if you think this is signaling that maybe Dubis 626 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 4: after the start of the new year, is going to 627 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 4: maybe start to go in a more youth direction, maybe 628 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 4: that you know, I don't think. 629 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 2: It's a matter of more youth direction, buddy. I think 630 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 2: it's a matter of just you know, you're not going 631 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: to do anything this season. You got to you know, 632 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 2: build for the future now. I don't think they need 633 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 2: any more draft picks. In fact, i'd like to see 634 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: them bunch up some draft picks and try to, uh, 635 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 2: you know, trade for prospects, trade for guys who can 636 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 2: help a bit sooner. Like I'm not talking I'm talking 637 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 2: like twenty two you know, you know the kind of 638 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: player I mean. But yeah, I mean they're not gonna 639 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 2: win anything this year. They fooled themselves with that start, 640 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: and the sooner they stop fooling themselves, I think the 641 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 2: better it'll be for moving forward. 642 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: Don't you. 643 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 4: Absolutely? And that's what I'm thinking, Mark, after the World 644 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 4: Junior Championship is over, do you think, I mean, I 645 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 4: would have to believe that, you know, with Shelf's being 646 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 4: just so inconsistent and really well consistently bad aside from 647 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 4: the other night and which wasn't even a great performance. 648 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 4: But you know, I just I feel like you to 649 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 4: bring murrash Off up here and some of the young 650 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 4: guys down there, and like, listen, no, no. 651 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: It depends. 652 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 2: It depends who's ready and who is and I would 653 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 2: bring up Tristan bros and Avery Hayes. But the plan 654 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 2: was to be more shot in the miners and not 655 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 2: putting on them a shooting gallery up here. And the 656 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 2: defense played okay for a while, but now, I mean, 657 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 2: Carlson was great for a while and now he stinks. 658 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 2: Waterspoon was decent for all and now he stinks. So 659 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 2: in the goaltenders case, it's all about development. 660 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: But thank you for the call. 661 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 2: And by the way, that trade was made that just broke. 662 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 2: Moments ago, the Pens got Igort Chinnikoff from Columbus, a 663 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 2: winger in exchange for Danton Hinen and draft picks Chinnikoff 664 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 2: was a first round pick in twenty twenty twenty. First overall, 665 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: not done great in his NHL games, just thirty seven 666 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 2: goals and seventy seven points in two hundred and four 667 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 2: of those. But he didn't get along with the coach here, 668 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 2: so maybe the maybe the Penguin's gotta steal. 669 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: We'll see. 670 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 2: We'll see him in uniform in the Penguins next game, 671 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 2: which I think is New Year's Day? Correct, Wait, play tomorrow, Carolina. 672 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 2: Where's that at? 673 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: It's here? 674 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 2: I wasn't even playing it on going now, I guess 675 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 2: I gotta Let's go to Vince Vince. 676 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: Ask Mark anything, Hey Mark? 677 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 11: If you could only see one Aerosmith song live, which 678 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 11: one would it be? 679 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 2: Well, that's a real good question, because my favorite Aerosmith 680 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 2: song is probably No More, No More, but Live. 681 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: I'd go with Draw the Line. How about you? 682 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, either draw the Line or Last Child. 683 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 10: I really like Last Child. 684 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 2: Bam bam bam bam, bam bam bam bam bam bam 685 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 2: bam bam bam bam. 686 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: Brad Whitford would like you. He wrote that, Let's go 687 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: to Murray Murray, Ask Mark anything. 688 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 11: Hey, Mark, Just wondering with Alex Heismith playing so well 689 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 11: yesterday but against it with the Browns, do you think 690 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 11: he's going to be a key factor in stopping Derrick Henry. 691 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 2: On Sunday, I thought Alex Highsmith played excellent against Cleveland. 692 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 2: I thought he was one of the few bright spots. 693 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: I think he ran Schaedor down from behind on a 694 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 2: couple occasions where Shador was ready to break a big run. 695 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: I think if high Smith hadn't been hurt as often 696 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 2: as he has this season, he could make a big 697 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 2: argument for being the Steelers defensive MVP. 698 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: Certainly, I think. 699 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 2: That goes to Jalen Ramsey given his availability being a 700 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 2: big time ability. But I think it's going to take 701 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 2: the proverbial village to even contain Derrick Henry. You don't 702 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: tackle that guy one on one. It ain't up to 703 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 2: one guy. Let's go to vitamin P. Vitamin P bar away, Hey, Mark. 704 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 8: I feel like the government's covering up the discovery of 705 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 8: alien life on this planet. Okay, do you think the 706 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 8: general public could handle an announcement that they've discovered, you know, 707 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 8: alien life or you know, something from another planet. Do 708 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 8: you think people could handle that? 709 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: And I think there would be mass panic. 710 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 2: I think that as soon as people heard that it 711 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 2: could be like, like you know, an amoeba, like a 712 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 2: plant based life form, and people would panic because they've 713 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 2: seen too many science fiction movies. So for that reason, 714 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 2: I think the government probably would cover it up. 715 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 7: Do you think they are. 716 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: I don't care. Let's go to Macy Macy ask Mark anything. 717 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 4: Hey, I wanted to know if you've ever been to 718 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 4: the Cherry City fire Hall annual fair, because you're from 719 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh or Shaler. 720 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 2: I was at the Cherry City fire Hall for a 721 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 2: Shaler High School baseball smoke or a number of years ago. 722 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: When is that what? What did you say? It was 723 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: at the at the fire hall? 724 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 7: Yeah, after the fire hall. It's like in the end 725 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 7: of July. 726 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 2: Well, invite me up, buddy, I'll come make sure I 727 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 2: find out about it. Let's go to Ken Ken Ask Mark. 728 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 12: Anything, Well, mister Madden, I watched that disaster of a 729 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 12: yours gain yesterday, and do you think they're going to 730 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 12: lose on that Monday night thing the. 731 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: Baltimore Well, it's Sunday night. 732 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,879 Speaker 2: If I had to pick right now, yes, I would 733 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 2: pick the Ravens, but I think that by the time 734 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 2: the game comes to pass, it will have been up 735 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 2: for grabs. But I think Derek Henry's going to stop him. 736 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 2: How many points that leads to, I don't know. I 737 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 2: think it'll lead to a lot of damage on rop 738 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 2: to whatever the result is. But if you made me, 739 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 2: I mean the Ravens are favored by three and a 740 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 2: half at Pittsburgh. 741 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,280 Speaker 1: That says a lot about what happened at Cleveland yesterday. 742 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: Let's take a. 743 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 6: Talkback super genius Eric and Toledo. Better stand up comedian 744 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 6: in their prime, Chris Rock or Martin Lawrence? 745 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: Thanks oh, Chris Rock. 746 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 2: Chris Rock a better social commentary. Martin Lawrence very funny, 747 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 2: Chris Rock very funny. But Chris Rock, some of the 748 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 2: stuff he said hit a lot closer to home, like. 749 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: His OJ thing. 750 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 2: I'm not saying he should have killed her, but I 751 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 2: understand great stuff.