1 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Minnesota Vikings Podcast, as we like to 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: call it MVP. I'm your host Tatum Everett from the 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: Vikings Entertainment Network and Minnesota returns to action this Sunday. 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: They dip back into divisional plays. They try to snap 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: a two game skin and work their way back into 6 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: playoff position. Sunday marks the one hundred and twenty seventh 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: regular season Border Battle. Head coach Kevin O'Connell is four 8 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: and two against the Pack and swept them last season. However, 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: Green Bay is six three and one this year and 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: currently sitting at second in the division. We'll hear from 11 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: the Packers side of things. We welcome in the head 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: Cheese Dave Sinnekon onto the show. But first, our dear 13 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 1: friend of the program, Eric Nordquist, joins us to give 14 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: us a pulse of the purple. Let's give a big 15 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: warm Welcome to Eric nord Quiz Preserve nine to noon. 16 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, is it weird to clap for yourself? 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: No, that wasn't That wasn't you. That was all the 18 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 1: live audience who. 19 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: Are learning from theater of the mind. 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: I love that, I love theater. Well, I actually want 21 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: to ask you about your mind, inside of it, in 22 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: your eyes, bigger rival. Bears are Packers for the Vikings. 23 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: Oh it's it's Packers, absolutely, And it is for me. 24 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: I mean divided household, my my father, grandfather, grandfather is 25 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: an owner as a matter of fact. Yes, Oh tough, 26 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 2: t fun fact, tough to mixed company. Father, lifelong Packers fan, 27 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 2: and and me. I I'm just all in on the purple. 28 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: So uh yeah, I think it's the Packers by ten miles. 29 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: I think in this division though, Packers, Bears and Lions. 30 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: There's a different kind of vitriol attached to each of 31 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: those teams for different reasons, But with the Packers, certainly 32 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: from a rivalry standpoint, stand up public enemy number one 33 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: for US Vikings fans. 34 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, how much does that change as you see the 35 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 1: team's jockey for NFC North divisional standings over the years. 36 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's that's a great question because if you 37 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: like in the now times now, I don't want the 38 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 2: Lions to win any game that includes us, and most 39 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: games that don't include us, but the Lions, you have 40 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: a hard time being mad at him because over the 41 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: last quarter century they've been so dreadful, empathetic and its 42 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: fans with the with the grocery. 43 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: Bags over their heads and all of that went. 44 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: Entire winless seasons that they've endured, and then it's kind 45 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 2: of a cool team, like you can't you know, you 46 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 2: can't hate Jared gar the whole. 47 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 3: Jamier Gibbs kind of a really cool player. 48 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 2: That I wish we had the head coach is you know, 49 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: he's got the he's got the Copenhagen stains on the 50 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: bottom row. But but he's kind of he's a coach 51 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: you can understand why people play for. 52 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 3: He gets the best out of this guy. 53 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: So you know, on its face as a franchise, I 54 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: can't hate the Lions. I just despise the idea of 55 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 2: losing to them, which is why that win at ford 56 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: Field was so cool. 57 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: That was really cool. Hoping for some of that magic 58 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: at lambeau Field on Sunday. So this is going to 59 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: be the first of two games against the Packers this season, 60 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: obviously by Vikings end the year against the Packers at home, 61 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: which will be super fun. Hopefully by the by the 62 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: end of it all, and hope it means something. That's 63 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: always the case and in order for it to mean something, Norto. 64 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: The Vikings need this win on the road. Both teams 65 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: kind of struggling to score recently. There's been a lot 66 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: of ups and downs right now in the last five weeks. 67 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: The Packers are averaging about twenty one point eight points, 68 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: but they had some two very low scoring numbers and 69 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: knocked that thing down, and then the VI game. Yeah, 70 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: the Vikings are averaging nineteen points a game. 71 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, we could have used twenty one and change this 72 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: last Sunday. 73 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: To use that. Yes, indeed, so so do you foresee 74 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: a low scoring game? 75 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: You know? 76 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: How does the elements play into it? All? 77 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: Well, I haven't looked at the weather rapport yet. 78 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: It's like forty four and clear sky, so okay, so 79 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: kind of have a nice atmosphere on his probably pretty 80 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: nice day, Thank goodness. I don't think I could take 81 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: some snow there at all. 82 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 83 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: Well, I it's tough for me to predict high scoring 84 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: endeavors by our favorite team until we continue to see 85 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: maybe a little more consistency out of JJ McCarthy. This 86 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: does feel, though, similar to that ford Field game as 87 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 2: a reference the win over the Lions. This does feel 88 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 2: kind of like it's going to be a twenty seven 89 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: to twenty four as that game was, or twenty four 90 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: to twenty one. 91 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 3: It does feel kind of in that range. 92 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: Where you know they're the Packers are sweating the health 93 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 2: of Josh Jacobs ye, and we are sweating the consistency 94 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: of our young QB from a health standpoint. The Vikings 95 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: might actually believe it or not. Don't tell anybody. There's 96 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: a chance this will be the first game of the 97 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: season where we actually see all the players that we 98 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: were excited about the scene in the season. So I 99 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 2: hope that takes place where we're sweating the consistency of 100 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: the of the kid in charge number nine. So this 101 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: does look like it's a game where it's a slog 102 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: at times. You're going to see, I mean, just the Packers' 103 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: ability to find explosive plays, the up and down nature 104 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: of Jordan Love. They experienced good times bad times with him, 105 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: but he finds his way and it is really impressive 106 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: at six three and one. Just some of the things 107 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: that they've been challenged with this year. I find it 108 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: this is going to be a game of who gets 109 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: that bigger explosive near. 110 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: The end of the game. 111 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense. 112 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: That might find their way into the winners circle. 113 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's been a mix of outcomes for 114 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: the Packers QB against Brian Flores. Obviously, this Vikings team 115 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: blitz is the most in the NFL. Jordan Love has 116 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: had success against the Blitz over his career. However, last 117 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: year Vikings swept the Packers and actually Brian Flores is 118 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: undefeated at lambeau Field with the Vikings, so he kind 119 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: of seems like he's inside his head. Do we should 120 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: we expect that much from Brian Flores to be able 121 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: to outscheme what Jordan Love is capable of. 122 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: Well, if Josh Jacobs doesn't play. Part of the reason 123 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: I bring that up, that's kind of the a time 124 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: for them. Lafleur wants to run the ball forty times 125 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 2: a game, and he wants Jordan Love to be seventeen 126 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: to twenty one for two hundred yards, a couple of 127 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: touchdowns and a nice passer rating. So he wants efficiency 128 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: a couple of those explosives. And you know, whether that's 129 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: Matthew Golden. Christian Watson has emerged from obscurity. People forgot 130 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: about Christian Watson. Now he's scoring two tds. I think 131 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: in that most recent game they had with the Giants. 132 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 2: So I think that that plays into kind of what 133 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 2: you're talking about, the ups and downs of Jordan Love 134 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 2: and so what does that run game look like? And 135 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: then if because if they have to play left handed, yeah, 136 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: and they don't have Josh Jacobs. I think that's a 137 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: legit issue that the Packers may not be able to overcome. 138 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 2: Flores some of the issues he's had scheming against Ben Johnson. 139 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: He definitely does not have those in most other cases, 140 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: including this one. So I would anticipate and I trust 141 00:06:55,560 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 2: Flores to pitch another nice one at Lambeau on Sunday. 142 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: Whether or not he remains undefeated at Lambeau, Well, that's 143 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: dependent upon mister McCarthy. 144 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it is. It is, and that actually let's 145 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: talk about the protection for JJ McCarthy in this one. 146 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: I think obviously you're watching the blitz against Jordan Love, 147 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: but I think the other eye, the other storyline to 148 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: keep your eye on would be the Packers pass rush, 149 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: which is ranking top five in the league against this 150 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: o line, which you brought up a great point. Will 151 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: Ryan call I be back, We're unsure if not. It 152 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: is a group that's been together for a little bit 153 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: more than one. 154 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 3: Game, sixteen or seventeen. 155 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: Crazy, but you know, it looked like it was a 156 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: promising trend last week with the pre snap penalties. So 157 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: now you're going into a hostile, loud, Lambeau. 158 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 3: Crowd from eight fallse starts to just one. 159 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: There we go there. 160 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 3: Week to week improvement, a. 161 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: Huge week to week improvement. So you but but now 162 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: you go into lambo, right, and you're up against this 163 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: pass rush in the what can you what can we 164 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: anticipate from that match up? That storyline? 165 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: Well, that's it's it's the same way we would talk 166 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: about when our front seven is cooking, how that might 167 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: help the situation on the back end. 168 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 3: It's the same conversation with the Packers. 169 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: The combination of Parsons and Edger and Cooper's really good 170 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: and you know. 171 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: They what they do up front is special. 172 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: And Halfley's defense deserves some praise for very for very 173 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: valid reasons. Uh, the protection upfront is going to meet 174 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: a lot we've seen, you know, of all the negatives 175 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: talking about the quarterback and just inconsistency, lack of accuracy, 176 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: et cetera. Uh, the last two games, one sack I 177 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: believe in the Ravens game, wasn't not sacked in the 178 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 2: Bears game, and so the commitment or not commitment wrong seaword. 179 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 2: The right sea word is continuity. In terms of the 180 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: offensive line, we have seen improvement there. Now the improvement 181 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: has to happen with the kid behind him, but pass protection, 182 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 2: specifically with a healthy Aaron Jones picking up an extra runner, 183 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: picking up or assisting maybe potentially on the left side 184 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: if Parsons is coming in Edgar and Cooper. Again, I 185 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: mentioned these two names because they are absolute game wreckers 186 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: for the Green and Gold. And as we you know, 187 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 2: the many things we want the kid QB to improve on, 188 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: all of that becomes moot and the conversation is dead 189 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 2: if we can't give him even that two two and 190 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: a half seconds to process as he gets better at that, 191 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: to find the right read as he needs to get 192 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 2: better at that, and to play pitch and catch as 193 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: the coach says, that needs to get better. And it's 194 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 2: not going to get better if if McCarthy's laying on 195 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 2: his back and old number one's doing the sack dance 196 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: at his at his at his loss. 197 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: So you had a coach O'Connell on nine to Noon 198 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: this week for x's and o's what were what were 199 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: his main sentiments when it goes into you know, evolving 200 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: quarterback play for a young guy going into his only 201 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: sixth start of the year. 202 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: I cat, you know, I can only pick up because 203 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: they Kevin O'Connell. They are good conversations that he has 204 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 2: with us nine to noon, But it's not like he's 205 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: opening a vein and it's just the book is wide 206 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: open and we can read all the thoughts and all 207 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: the things that go into it. 208 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: So my vibe with it, what I. 209 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: Take from it is the combination of managing what's around 210 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy while simultaneously on the fly raising JJ McCarthy 211 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 2: that this is the biggest adversity and the biggest challenge 212 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 2: of his coaching career, and the sentiments around it. I 213 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 2: still feel that optimism, which I believe there should be. 214 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 2: Through five starts, you can play player comparisons and hey, 215 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: look what Josh Allen did early in his career, right, 216 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: and then somebody will say, well he didn't have Jefferson 217 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 2: and Addison. Well, then I will say, well, actually they 218 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: had one of the better defenses in the NFL. They 219 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 2: were a playoff team the year before they got him, 220 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: by the way. But all the same, you can play 221 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: those comparison games and I think you lose a lot 222 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 2: in that where we're not at any point just talking 223 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 2: about just being patient, and Kevin O'Connell actually has been 224 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: really honest over the course of time where it's I'm 225 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: not shortening the playbook, I'm actually not making it easier 226 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: on him. I'm going to construct this thing to accentuate 227 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: the things he does best. But that doesn't mean it's 228 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 2: necessarily going to be easy, and we're going to do 229 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: things and in frame not just you know, challenge him 230 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: to improve, but put our team in the best place 231 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 2: to win. Balancing that clearly has been a mountainous journey, 232 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 2: but I still see the sentiments of optimism and from 233 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 2: a week to week basis finding new things that yeah, 234 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 2: this is better than a week before. Yes, this shows 235 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: that he gets it. Processing is improving here there. And 236 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: in the end, I think, what's kind of weird because 237 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: Vikings fans will get this just in terms of wanting 238 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: a franchise QB. 239 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 3: We loved Kirk, we loved Farvin. 240 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: O nine, These fleeting moments we want to raise somebody 241 00:11:55,600 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 2: that becomes a star. We found a kid after all 242 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 2: these years. He's actually really really good in the clutch moments, 243 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: which is very very historically on Viking's life. But now 244 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: he just doesn't do the other things. So in the 245 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 2: fourth quarter, fourth down, you need to have it, he 246 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 2: absolutely offers a dart and the dagger and gets into 247 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: the end zone. But in the second quarter, when it's 248 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: second and eight, he throws it ten feet over a 249 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 2: guy's head. 250 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: So harness that clutch gene throughout right. So from clutch, yeah, 251 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: to touch? Can we get we got the clutch? Can 252 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: we get some touch on the fastball? I love that 253 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: your mind always thinks in like rhyme rap form, because 254 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: I know you do your montages and. 255 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 3: The fans very high rhyme and alliteration. These are two 256 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 3: pillars of the fan. 257 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: Yes, Well, one more fun question before we get going. 258 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: I would I wanted to know we're week eleven, it's 259 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: time to like, really the team's really takes take in shape. 260 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: You kind of like find who's having great seasons by now? 261 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: Who is one player that you are just so pleased 262 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: with and excited for in this offense or in this 263 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: in this on this roster. Okay that you just like 264 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: didn't think he'd like so much, but now you're like, man, 265 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: this guy's the best. 266 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 3: Well. 267 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: Eric Wilson has taken Ivan Pace's spot and he's not 268 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: giving it back. He's been a revelation week to week 269 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: and I love that. The other one, and we've talked 270 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 2: about him before, Jalen Redmond has again taken a spot, 271 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: taken advantage of it, and it's not necessarily just about 272 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 2: earning a roster. I mean the base level here in 273 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: a roster spot dig that. But now it's like you 274 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: can't take him off the field. He has to be 275 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 2: an integral part, not just to stopping the run, but 276 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: you're finding him in the backfield and he's affecting the 277 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: QBS as well. 278 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 3: And then you look at his backstory. 279 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 2: There's there's blood clots, there's health, there's you know, just 280 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: tragic there there's. 281 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 3: Death in this kid's life. 282 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: And now you know he's he's making plays every single 283 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: Sunday and he's all effort, he's all energy, and it 284 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: just feels like nobody's happier to be on that field. 285 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: Thank you Nordo so much, really appreciate your time, your insight. 286 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: As always. 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Welcome back into the Minnesota Vikings podcast. 305 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Tatum Everett and the Vikings look to 306 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: break a two game losing streak when they make the 307 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: trip out to lambeau Field for Border Battle, part one 308 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty five season. To get us primed 309 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: and ready for this matchup, we've got the tc head Cheese. 310 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: You know him from his thirty year run with Packers. 311 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: Preview on KFN, Dave sinecon joins us. Hello, Dave Hatum, 312 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: how you doing doing wonderful? Actually really excited to officially 313 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: meet you. Thanks for providing some time for us. 314 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 4: My pleasure. It's Border Battle week. It's what we all 315 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 4: wait for every season, so I can't wait to get 316 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 4: into it. 317 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: I bet are you headed to the game? 318 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 4: I am not. I have three kids coming home from 319 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 4: college over the weekend. They're all going to hunker down 320 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 4: and hang out and watch the game together. Two of 321 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 4: my kids are Packer fans, Jackson's a misguided Viking fan. 322 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 4: But it's always fun to watch all together, to watch these. 323 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: Games, well, Dave. Your latest article on Zone Coverage, you wrote, 324 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: after the Giants win, it wasn't a giant leap, but 325 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: they take a step forward. What did you mean by that? 326 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 4: Well, after two consecutive losses at Lambeau, something that Matt 327 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 4: Lafleur has never had happen in back to back weeks, 328 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 4: it's hard to know what to expect from Green Bay. 329 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 4: They seemed to have played down to their competition, so 330 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 4: I wasn't expecting this robust performance to break out of 331 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 4: the fog. And it looked like the team that we 332 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 4: thought the Packers were after a couple of weeks. But 333 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 4: I saw just a few encouraging signs. The fact that 334 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 4: the offense got untracked and put points on the board. 335 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 4: I'll get against a mediocre Giants defense. Yeah, I was 336 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 4: worried about the you know, facing a team right after 337 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 4: they fired their coach, and here comes Jamis Winston to 338 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 4: rally the troops, and it was hard to really know, like, 339 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 4: are you catching the Giants at a really bad time 340 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 4: because they're gonna be fired up. So I kind of 341 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 4: had these expectations that were just let's get in there 342 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 4: and get a win, because the last time Green Bay 343 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 4: went there two years ago a backup quarter Tommy DeVito, 344 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 4: sprung the upset on Green Bay. They've kind of been 345 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 4: a house of horror. So I just wanted to see progress, 346 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 4: and I thought the offense showed progress. The defense, while 347 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 4: not great, made big plays at key moments, as they've 348 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 4: done all seasons. So encouraging that they got off the 349 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 4: two loss snide. But I'm not ready to jump up 350 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 4: and down and wave my cheese head just yet. 351 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they faced a lot of adversity in 352 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: that game. Albeit Jordan Love missing some time but getting 353 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: back into the game. What do you think the status 354 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: for his I know it's early in the week as 355 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: we record this, so not too much out there, just 356 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: as a forewarning for those listening, But do you think 357 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: this is something he'll just be able to battle back 358 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: from for Sunday? 359 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 4: Well, I think he'll be okay as long as he 360 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 4: doesn't get hit again. You know, if he lands on 361 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 4: that left shoulder again, who knows. I was very concerned 362 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 4: that maybe it was just the adrenaline of the game 363 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 4: once he came back, and then when he got out 364 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 4: and got tested, there might be some problems. It does 365 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 4: sound like he dodged anything serious. But it's a shoulder. 366 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 4: It's not as throwing shoulder, but this just in You know, 367 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 4: quarterbacks need their arms. So I think he'll be fine 368 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 4: as long as Green Bay protects him a little bit. 369 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 4: It is nice to know that if he's got to 370 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 4: go get some tests done, you can have a guy 371 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 4: like Malik Willis step in and actually he jumps started 372 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 4: the offense, put him on the scoreboard in the seven 373 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 4: plays he was out there. He actually got things going. 374 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 4: So it's nice to know they've got something if Jordan 375 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 4: can't go for a while. But yeah, I'm more concerned 376 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 4: about Josh Jacobs, who misspractice on Wednesday's day to day, 377 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 4: and you know they got two games now over the 378 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 4: next ten days. They obviously play Thanksgiving in Detroit, and 379 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 4: so I'm I'm a little nervous that they might decide 380 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 4: to just be safe with Jacobs and maybe if it's 381 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 4: a couple extra days, make sure he's out there for Detroit. 382 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 4: So that's the offensive injury I'm really keenly focused on 383 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 4: this week. 384 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, how much does his availability affect the 385 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: Packers offense as. 386 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,239 Speaker 4: A whole, Well, he's what makes the offense go and 387 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 4: that the reason green Bay's offense has been really kind 388 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 4: of stuck in neutral a lot this season is that 389 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 4: the running game just hasn't got on track. It's not 390 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 4: necessarily Jacobs, it's the offensive line has not block run 391 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 4: like they did a year ago. It's just been really 392 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 4: slow to go with a new fangled interior. They're getting healthier, 393 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 4: they're getting better. We saw signs on Sunday. He was 394 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 4: only out there for a handful of carries, but he 395 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 4: averaged five and a half yards of carry. He does 396 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 4: make the offense go. Melafloor wants to be a run 397 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 4: first coach, like you know his mentor you know Kyle Shanahan. 398 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 4: That's how their offense starts is with the running game. 399 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 4: So if he can't go, Emmanuel Wilson gets the main job. 400 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 4: But you'll see a lot of Chris Brooks, the number 401 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 4: three guy who doesn't get a lot of run, but 402 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 4: he's a really good blitz pickup guy, pass protector. Green 403 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 4: Bay's play at the day last Sunday was a big time. 404 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 4: I'm sure you saw it. That third and ten bomb 405 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,719 Speaker 4: to save on Williams. If Chris Brooks doesn't pick up 406 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 4: a blitz and hold this guy off for as long 407 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 4: as Love needed to that play doesn't happen. He's kind 408 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 4: of an unsung hero, and I think you'll see almost 409 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 4: a split between both Wilson and Brooks because we know 410 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 4: Brian Flores is gonna blitz early and off and against. 411 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: What gives you that impression and blitzes. It's funny you 412 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: say that there's a split, though. I think Josh Jacobs 413 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: accounts for almost forty percent of the offense for the Packers, 414 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: and so without him, they definitely have some voids to 415 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: be full and Brian Flores is probably preparing for it 416 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: either way. What is it about what do you enjoy 417 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: the most? Rather about the chess match between Jordan Love 418 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: and Brian Flores's defensive front. 419 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, obviously, like most quarterbacks, Leve will struggle if 420 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 4: there's somebody in his face. I think that Love's quick 421 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 4: decision making has really improved, his confidence, has improved, a 422 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 4: trust that the Packers' offensive coaches have, and love to 423 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 4: dissect what might be coming, even though it's impossible to 424 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 4: know exactly who's common who's dropping with Brian Flores, but 425 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 4: I think they've really come to a point in the 426 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 4: relationship with Laflora Love where the trust is starting to 427 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 4: get there. The problem is a lot of his favorite 428 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 4: pass catching options just can't stay on the field so 429 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 4: to develop the chemistry, and when you just don't have 430 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 4: guys that are out there consistently practicing, some of that 431 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 4: isn't as crisp as you'd like it to be. But 432 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 4: I think that overall, you know, Jorda Love will throw 433 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 4: a couple of balls every week that make you just 434 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 4: close your eyes and pray, like that passed to Sabione 435 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 4: Williams last week. But when the chips are down, if 436 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 4: it's a close game late, he's proven this year. I 437 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 4: mean four Cup fourth quarter comebacks, three are wins, one 438 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 4: or a tie, all on the road. So he's really 439 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 4: when the chips are down, when things are getting tight, 440 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 4: he's proven that he's up to that challenge and can 441 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 4: take whatever that defense gives you, and obviously hasn't been successful. 442 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 4: If I can swept the Packers last year, we'll see 443 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 4: what Love has learned when they meet again on Sunday. 444 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's on pace for career highs and 445 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: completion percentage, passing, touchdown interception ratio, and passer rating. Dave, 446 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: we really appreciate you spending some time with us today. 447 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: I would say best of luck, but I really think 448 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: the Purple need to get this one off their back. 449 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 4: I get it. I get it. Great to chat with 450 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 4: to Jadam, thanks for likewise, look forward to doing it 451 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 4: again sometimes. 452 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: Thank you. Dave really enjoyed this conversation. Thank you. A 453 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: big thank you to Eric Nordquist and Dave Sinekin for 454 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: being a part of MVP this week. Vikings back in 455 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: action on Sunday from lambeau Field and Green Bay. 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