1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray w BZ cast New Radio. 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: We're gonna title politics here today. After much speculation, former 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 2: Republican Senator John Sunu Uh, the brother of former New 4 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: Hampshire Governor Chris Sonunu UH and the son of former 5 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 2: New Hampshire Governor John soun whose namesake Dad, decided he's 6 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: gonna try to take the seat that's being uh left there, 7 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: leaving from former Uh current US Senator Jean Shaheen. 8 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 3: Uh. 9 00:00:47,960 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: This is Republican politics in New Hampshire. It's it's unbelievable. Uh. 10 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 2: Sonunu ran for the US Senate in let's put it. 11 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: He was a member of Congress. He was born in 12 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 2: nineteen sixty four and he went to Congress at the 13 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: ripe age of thirty two. He defeated a Democrat. There 14 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: was an open seat. A Republican congressman decided to run 15 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: for governor of New Hampshire. I believe he lost, But 16 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 2: Sonunu defeated a Democrat and one reelection in ninety eight, 17 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 2: two thousand, and two thousand and two, and then he 18 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: decided that well, he won reelection, I should say in 19 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: ninety eight and two thousand, he decided in two thousand 20 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: and two that he would take on a Republican incumbent. 21 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: So he has run against prior Republican incumbent Bob Smith, 22 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: who he defeated, and then he defeated the incumbent Democratic 23 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: Governor Jean Shaheen in two thousand and two, but then 24 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: she came back and she defeated him, both of them 25 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 2: fairly close elections. In two thousand and eight. Johnsonunu went 26 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: off into the private sector and has been in the 27 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: private sector since two thousand and eight. So he served 28 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: six terms in the House and one term six years 29 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: in the House, three terms in one term in the Senate. 30 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: So he made his announcement today rob Let's play Coat 31 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 2: two A. He's been out of politics, although his brother 32 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: Chris has been a major figure in New Hampshire politics 33 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 2: for the last ten years. He's been out of politics 34 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: since at two thousand and eight. Long time, long time, 35 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 2: eighteen years. Well at this point seventeen years. This has 36 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 2: cut a twenty A. Former Senator John Sununu saying he's 37 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: going to seek the Republican nomination and will therefore have 38 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 2: to run against Scott Brown to win the Republican nomination, 39 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: sets up a real interesting battle in New Hampshire. This 40 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: is a cut number twenty eight. Rob. 41 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 4: It's been a while since you elected me to serve 42 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 4: New Hampshire, and boy of things changed. Washington's never been perfect, 43 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 4: It's not meant to be. But when I was there, 44 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 4: people with different opinions could get together, work things out 45 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 4: and come to solutions. That made a real difference. But 46 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 4: now Congress seems loud, dysfunctional, even angry. But granted, staters 47 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 4: still talk. We don't always agree, but we respect one 48 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 4: another and work together for the common good. That's the 49 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 4: New Hampshire way. 50 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: Okay, So he's taking an appeal and saying let's get 51 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: back to the good old days. Now. We have invited 52 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: John Sanunu too. Again I have to say the candidate, 53 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: not the former governor, but we have invited him to 54 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: join us. We've invited Scott Brown to join us because 55 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: it's not often, especially in a small state like New Hampshire, 56 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: that you have two Republicans. Now, Snunu has done this before. 57 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 2: He ousted an incumbent Republican, Bob Smith, when he got 58 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: elected in two thousand and two to the US Senate. 59 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: So he's been away for a while, but he's stepping 60 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 2: back in and it's a big battle. The people who 61 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: will probably benefit from the most of the Democrats, because 62 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: generally when Republicans battle, there's some hard feelings. Let me 63 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: give you another part of his announcement a little longer. 64 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 2: This has cut twenty b as in Boston. 65 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 4: Maybe you're surprised to hear that I'm running for the 66 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 4: Senate again. I'm a bit surprised myself. Why would anyone 67 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 4: subject themselves to everything going on there right now? Well, 68 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 4: somebody has to step up and lower the temperature. Somebody 69 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 4: has to get things done. Laser focus on the economy, jobs, 70 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 4: our debt, and making our lives more affordable. Somebody has 71 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 4: to protect Medicare, do a better job for our veterans, 72 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 4: and really tackle our health care costs. And on social Security. 73 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 4: We keep our promises to seniors, all of them over 74 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 4: twelve years. I never voted to cut benefits and I 75 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 4: never will. I'd be honored to have your support and 76 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 4: return to the Senate to help calm the waters. As Senator, 77 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 4: I'll have just one job, stand up for the people 78 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 4: of New Hampshire every single day. The New Hampshire Way 79 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 4: needs to be the American way. Thanks for considering me. 80 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 4: I'll see you around. 81 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: So it's a very homey opening presentation by John Sounu. Again, 82 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 2: John Souna, the former Senator, wants to go back to 83 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: the US Senate. So what I'd love to do is 84 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 2: I would love to hear from as many callers as possible. 85 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: If you're from New Hampshire, particularly if you're not from 86 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: New Hampshire, you would think, I mean New Hampshire right 87 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 2: now has a Democratic governor. They have two US Senators 88 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: who are both Democratic, two members of Congress. So there 89 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 2: are five five not statewide races, but five major positions governor, Senate, 90 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: to in the Senate and to in the House. They're 91 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: all Democrats. You would think that the Republicans would get 92 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 2: their act together and say, Okay, I'll run for this, 93 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 2: you'll run for that. To have Scott Brown against Johnsonunhu, now, 94 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: I don't know enough about the backgrounds of either of them. Well, 95 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 2: I know a lot about the background of each of them, 96 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: but I don't know what their interpersonal background is. I 97 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: know Chris Sonunu really well, uh and he really is 98 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 2: a great guy. I've told you that I thought he 99 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: was the best senator, a best governor in the country 100 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: and I and that's how I felt. Uh. And I 101 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: will be interested to see if Scott Brown and John 102 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: Sounu can run. They both have served in the US Senate, 103 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: Brown from Massachusetts, Sonunu from New Hampshire, not at the 104 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: same time. They didn't overlap. But I find it interesting 105 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: that generally, you know, a party will say, Okay, let's 106 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: make way for this candidate. They're both qualified candidates. I mean, 107 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: if if the qualification is having served in the US Senate, 108 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 2: they both qualify. Uh. But so I want to hear 109 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: from you who who? Who are you interested in? Who 110 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: do you who do you favor at this point if 111 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: you're a Republican, love to hear from you six one, seven, two, five, 112 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: four to ten thirty six one seven, nine three one 113 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: ten thirty. Uh. It has seemed to me that the 114 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: Democrat who's an incumbent congressman who wants to step up, 115 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: Chris Pappus Uh. I think he will probably run, if 116 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 2: not unopposed, he won't have any other member of Congress 117 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: running against him. I think he's going to benefit from this. 118 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 2: But we'll see maybe a race between Sonuna and Brown 119 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: will make them both better candidates. I don't know. That's 120 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 2: why I'm leaving it up to you. Six one, seven, two, five, 121 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. 122 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: Both the nine three, one ten thirty lines are tied up. 123 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 2: Bernie and Jay, you will be first and second. We 124 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: con back the lines that are open. Six one, seven, two, five, 125 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: four ten thirty. My name's Dan Ray. This is a 126 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: night's ide talking a little politics. Scott Brown versus John Sanunu. 127 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: We'll hopefully have both of them on in the not 128 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: too distant future. And by the way, I should mention 129 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 2: I misspoke, the New Hampshire does have a Republican governor finally, 130 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: Kelly Aart, a former senator herself. They play musical chairs 131 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: up there, so in the congressional delegation it's all Democrats, 132 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 2: two senators, two members of the House by a Republican governor, 133 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 2: Kelly Aart, although they haven't had a Republican governor up 134 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: there for a while. We'll be back on Nightside. Let's 135 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: have a little bit of fun with this. Coming back 136 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 2: on nightside. 137 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Boston's News Radio. 138 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 2: All right, so we're kind of testing the waters for 139 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: Scott Brown and John Sanunu. Again, I keep having to clarify, 140 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: we're not talking about the former governor, talking about the 141 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 2: former US Senator. And again, apologies to Kelly Aart. I 142 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: blanked over the fact that she's now the governor of 143 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: New Hampshire. So they have a Republican governor, but two 144 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: US Senators who are Democrats and two members of the 145 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: House of Representatives. Where we got to go next, Let's 146 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: go to Bernie in New Hampshire. Bernie, welcome back. Next 147 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: on Nightside, you now have a multitude of qualified US 148 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: Senate candidates of the Republican side. Is that a good 149 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 2: thing or a bad thing? 150 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 5: Well, for me, it's a good thing. I mean I 151 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 5: was number one. I was very impressed with Scott Brown's 152 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 5: interview on your station. I thought he articulated himself. 153 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:30,599 Speaker 3: Well. 154 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 5: I was very happy to hear what he had to 155 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 5: say and moving forward going towards the race, I was 156 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 5: excited that, you know, we would get a Republican into 157 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 5: the Senate from New Hampshire, which would be a good thing. 158 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 5: I was really impressed with him, and I was kind 159 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 5: of surprised today let the Republican Party like of New Hampshire. 160 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 5: I mean, not that they have a say, but they 161 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 5: must have some type of let's say, why would we 162 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 5: do this when we have a good candidate already in 163 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 5: a good position to beat Bappos. 164 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, And. 165 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 5: I don't know, I'm just kind of maybe you said, maybe, 166 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 5: just you know what, maybe the stronger guy comes out stronger, 167 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 5: you know, and that would be a bad thing. And 168 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 5: the difference between like my I grew up in Mass, 169 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 5: I work in Mass, and my friends in Mass so 170 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 5: quick to tell me that New Hampshire is just an 171 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 5: extension of masks living off of masses, like whatever. 172 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, it wasn't always that way already, back back, 173 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: you know, when I first started in TV, which a 174 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 2: long time ago, in the nineteen seventies, you would always 175 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 2: have for the most part, Republicans as governor, uh and 176 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 2: Republicans in the House and Republicans in the Senate. UH. 177 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 2: And slowly but surely it changed up there. You know. 178 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 2: Warren Rudman was a senator from up there there. You know, 179 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: they were well known, you know, members of Congress uh 180 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 2: up there for many many years governors. But then there 181 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: was a kind of a change once Rudman was gone 182 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: and you had a bunch of Democrats came in and 183 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: both as governors and as senators. Obviously you have Jean 184 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 2: Shaheen who was a governor and is now a retiring 185 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: US Senator. This is a seat that Republicans could pick up, 186 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: which is you know, that's a rare opportunity in my opinion, 187 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 2: So we'll have to see how it works out. I 188 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 2: hope that that both Brown and Sanoonu realize that the 189 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 2: real prize is not the nomination. The real prize for 190 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 2: the Republican Party is they senate pick up in New England. 191 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: We don't other than Susan Collins, there's no other Republican 192 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 2: US senator in New England. So we have six states, 193 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 2: twelve senators, eleven Democrats and one Republican. 194 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 5: Right that's my fair is that they beat each other 195 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 5: up and lose sight of that instead of looking at 196 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 5: the substantial game up you can be made and bringing 197 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 5: a voice of Leason instead of League in. Because it's great, 198 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 5: we have to have the two party system and that 199 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 5: works for the state. You know that they are actually 200 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 5: serving some of the state because of that. But I'm 201 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 5: like in mass where it's an all Democrat all the time, 202 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 5: and you guys lose your voice. Found me a lot 203 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 5: because of that, especially at the state level. 204 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, we used to have a tradition in Massachusetts 205 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: and maybe it will come back of electing Republican governors. 206 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 2: I mean, you know Bill Weld and Paul Salucci, Mitt Romney, 207 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: Charlie Baker, even before that, Frank Sergeant John Vopie, people 208 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 2: like that. So Massachusetts always like to have a Republican 209 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 2: in the corner office. Yeah. True, that's not so much lately. 210 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 5: No, no, but then it's thanks for your time. 211 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Time is precious and I appreciate you. 212 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 5: Let me get my point of view, and you have 213 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 5: a good evening. 214 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: How's your son doing? Everything still okay down there, and they. 215 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 5: He's doing very well. He's still in training and yeah 216 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 5: it's odd and he's doing well. 217 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, excellent, excellent, Thanks so much, Bernie. I appreciate the call. 218 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 2: Thank you. Rolling here on nights, I'm going to go 219 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 2: next to Jay also in New him should say you 220 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: are next on nightside, Dan. 221 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 6: Even though I'm not too crazy about him. I gotta say, 222 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 6: Scott Brown is my horse in this race. Uh, Any 223 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 6: any Republican other than other than the new news. 224 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: You don't like any of the news. 225 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 6: No, no, I find you know, they're really textbook rhinos 226 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 6: and weak Republicans. And I know that they you know, 227 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 6: have had I know, Chris has had a great run 228 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 6: as far as elections and popularity and all that. But 229 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 6: you know, you're gonna remember this. This is the guy 230 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 6: that that went along with with the lot of the 231 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 6: left wing craziness that came through the bathroom bills, the 232 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 6: transgender stuff. I mean he just signed off on it. 233 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: And who signed off on that stuff? 234 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, all that stuff, all that stuff when when 235 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 6: went threw one to him, and they didn't they didn't 236 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 6: fight it, and they just kind of they went right 237 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 6: along with that. 238 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 2: That's that's why again, that's that's not my recollection. I 239 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: don't have the in front of me, you know, you know, uh, 240 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 2: you know, chapter verse, but I I would be very 241 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: surprised do you have, Well whatever, if that's your recollection 242 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 2: of it, you're in New Hampshire, I'm not you. You 243 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: like Scott Brown, you know Brown, uh and and and 244 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: the sons. They've they've made these races up there, uh, 245 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 2: you know, fairly fairly tight. So for example, I'm just 246 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: looking at a couple of races here, which I think 247 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 2: a kind of interesting. You know, Sununu beat Shaheen in 248 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: two thousand and two, then lost to her. You know, again, 249 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: it was a close race in two thousand and two. 250 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 2: Soon it was just over fifty percent. It was the 251 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:22,479 Speaker 2: twenty thousand vote difference. That's a tight race in New Hampshire. 252 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 2: Saheen then turned it around and beat Sonunu in two 253 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: thousand and eight. Again it was about we have forty 254 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: thousand race, so she had a pretty strong showing there 255 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: and then she was an incumbent beat Scott Brown, but 256 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 2: it was very tight. It was about sixteen thousand votes. 257 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: So you know, they're competitive races up there, which is great. 258 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: They're not blowouts and they make them. Those are races 259 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: that people want to follow. So but I got you 260 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: down for Scott Brown, Jay and will hopefully have Scott 261 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: Brown on maybe even as early as tomorrow night, and 262 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: left to have john Sonunu on and give them a 263 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: chance to talk to our listeners. 264 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you again. I appreciate it. I think Scott Brown, 265 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 6: I mean the very probably at the end of the day, 266 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 6: very similar Republicans, but Scott Brown's got a little bit 267 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 6: more of the the maggot cred now, you know, and 268 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 6: I have a suspicion that's why they're running against them. 269 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 2: Well, well we'll see if how that how that turns 270 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 2: out that you know, I can't I understand that. But sometimes, uh, 271 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 2: you know, parties get together and they say, Okay, we're 272 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 2: gonna go with this candidate or whatever. I think it'll 273 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 2: be a battle to the end, and I hope that 274 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 2: they they don't destroy each other and pave the way 275 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: for another Democratic member of the Senate from New Hampshire. 276 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you. I think that you 277 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 2: know that that either Sununu or Brown, with their experience, 278 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 2: would be very reputable members of the US Senate. I mean, 279 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 2: right now you have Maggie Hassen and Jean Shaheen, two 280 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 2: very significant Democratic US Senators. Shaheen has been elected now twice. 281 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: She serves until twenty twenty nine. Rather Hassen does Shaheen's 282 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 2: gonna leave. Maybe you need one Republican, one Democrat in 283 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,959 Speaker 2: the Senate from Massachusetts. So you got a little bit 284 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 2: of poll with the incumbent with the incumbent White House, 285 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: Jay Love your calls man, thanks very much for checking in. Okay, 286 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 2: thank you. I like that. 287 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 6: I appreciate it. 288 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 7: Have a good night you too. 289 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 2: We're going to take a quick break. We got the 290 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: news at the bottom of the hour, and we're going 291 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 2: to come back. Patrick is down in DC, Laurie's and Idaho, 292 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 2: Steve is in Merrimack, New Hampshire, and John is in 293 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 2: New Hampshire. I'm assuming that is not a SNU now, 294 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 2: but we'll get to that. John in New Hampshire as well. 295 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 2: The only line opened six one, seven, nine, three, ten thirty. 296 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 2: Let's have a little bit of fun with this again. 297 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: It's it's it's not war and peace, folks, this is 298 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 2: this is elections, and I hope people can have disagreements 299 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: without being disagreeable. That's what this program is. I try 300 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 2: to make it about that, and I hope both on 301 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 2: the Democratic side and on the Republican side, that we 302 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 2: have two parties in this country. It's worked pretty well 303 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 2: for about two hundred and fifty years. No need to 304 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 2: change it now. Coming back at Nightside. 305 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Boston's news Radio. 306 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 2: Let's keep rolling here. I got Laurie who is in Ohio, 307 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 2: but is a New Hampshire native. I have learned that 308 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 2: from Laurie. 309 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 7: Laurie not in Ohio. 310 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 2: I said Idaho, right, or did they say Ohio? Oh? 311 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 6: No, Ohio. I don't know. 312 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 2: I don't know why. I don't know why. I'm Laurie 313 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 2: in Idaho. Yeah, but the New Hampshire native. Go ahead, Laurie, 314 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 2: what what's your thought of that? 315 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 8: Well? You had me think I was losing my mind 316 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 8: a little bit earlier because when you said Republican government, 317 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 8: I said. 318 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 2: No, oh yeah, yeah, I've had a rough night. It's 319 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 2: been a very busy day back here. 320 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 8: Okay, So I don't I I am a little bit baffled. 321 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 8: I'm guessing Scott Brown was not counting on this. 322 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 2: I wouldn't think not. 323 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:22,479 Speaker 9: I don't know. 324 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 8: No, Yeah, So I don't know what to say. I mean, 325 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 8: I hope they're not like pulling rank or something and 326 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 8: thinking that, like you know, other the little I don't know. 327 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 8: I don't know what to. 328 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 9: Make of it. 329 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 8: I mean, did did you know did he talk with 330 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 8: brother Chris? And maybe that's that's why Chris stepped up 331 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 8: or maybe running for the seat, because I. 332 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: Don't think it again, No, I think that Chris said 333 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 2: that he was not interested in going down to he 334 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 2: called it. 335 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 6: And I do believe that. 336 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 2: I believe that, yeah, yeah, And I think Chris had 337 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 2: served four terms as governor eight years, was the best 338 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 2: governor in the in the country as far as I 339 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 2: was concerned. 340 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. 341 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 2: And and I think that if he had decided to run, 342 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 2: everybody else would have stood stood down. But he decided not. 343 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 2: He decided that he wouldn't run. 344 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 8: So which I think is it's I think that's actually 345 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 8: a good thing. But I don't know where this john 346 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 8: comes back out of. I mean, poor, I feel family 347 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:16,959 Speaker 8: for Scott Brown, but I don't know. 348 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 9: Maybe I don't know. 349 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 8: Hopefully it's a good contest. And you're right, they don't 350 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 8: ruin each other and they don't put the vote for 351 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 8: the other. 352 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: Even by the way, if if Johnson and again I 353 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 2: got to keep saying that not the governor of the 354 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 2: former senator. He actually believe he's been out of the 355 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 2: Senate for it will be eighteen years. He was defeated 356 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight and the election is in 357 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. He'll be out of the Senate for 358 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: eighteen years if he gets re elected. But he's younger 359 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 2: than Scott Brown. And you know, they're both in their 360 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: six years I believe at this point. But he's no, no, no, 361 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: he was born in Sinuna, was born in sixty four, 362 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 2: so he's probably sixty one at this point, although again he. 363 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 8: Wait, when was Scott brownborn? 364 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 3: Oh? 365 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 2: Wow, Scott was I'm guessing fifty three or something like that, 366 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: So I would bet that Scott no, no, Scott might 367 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 2: have been. I'm gonna find out. I'll find out Scott 368 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 2: Brown's age. But I believe that Sununu was born in 369 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 2: sixty four, so I think he's just going to be 370 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 2: a little bit younger, not a lot, but a little 371 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 2: bit younger than Scott Brown. 372 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 8: Yeah, but Scott Brown, when's the charisma? 373 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 2: Well, I think most people would agree with that. They 374 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 2: didn't do a sketchu on Saturday Night Live for John 375 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 2: they did, they did that for Scott Brown. 376 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 9: I don't know. 377 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 8: I really caught me by surprise. It will be interesting 378 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 8: to see what happens Scott in. 379 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 2: Sixty Scott is sixty six. He was born in fifty nine. Okay, okay, 380 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 2: so he's sixty six. And as I said, Sonunu is 381 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 2: was born in sixty four, so he's sixty one or so. 382 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 2: So that's that's that's where that's where it is. 383 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 8: Huh, well, I'll. 384 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they both they both have advanced degrees. They 385 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 2: both right guys. You know Scott you know, went to 386 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: this college over in Medford called Tufts uh and went 387 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 2: to Boston College Law school. Uh. And so went to 388 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 2: m I t uh and has an NBA from Harvard 389 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 2: Business School. So they both have some you know, some 390 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: some some bonfindings, uh qualifications. And they've both been U 391 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 2: S senators real so, yeah, I'd love to know the 392 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 2: last time to and come, you know, two former US 393 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 2: senators were going to square off in a Republican primary. 394 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: I'll bet it's been a while. 395 00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 8: Not just has Scott lived in New Hampshire before he 396 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 8: moved up there just recently? Was he ever a native 397 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 8: of there or anything? 398 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: Yes, Scott will tell you that I believe that that 399 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 2: Scott was born in New Hampshire. Okay, he was born 400 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 2: in kidd Remained, but his family lived in New Hampshire 401 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 2: and then he came down, Okay to go to school 402 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 2: here and then lived here. You know, it was a 403 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 2: state rep and a state senator and then question. 404 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 8: Up there you can have the local sneering at him 405 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 8: because he's Massachusetts. This is going to be interesting. 406 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 2: I certainly will thank you, Laurie from Idaho. Thank you much. 407 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: We don't get many calls from Idaho. That's why I 408 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 2: think I always default to to Ohio. But I won't 409 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: do it again, I promise. Okay, thanks Laurie. All right, 410 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 2: let me go to Patrick. He's clearly from d C. Patrick. 411 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 2: How are you tonight? 412 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 7: Well, greetings from Shutdowntown. 413 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 2: Yes, shut Downtown. 414 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 9: I like that. 415 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 2: That's good. That's good, Patrick. 416 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 7: Yeah. I try to stay out of it as out 417 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 7: of the district of during this little bit. I'd like 418 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 7: to go in, but I don't know. 419 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 5: I can. 420 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 7: I can do my job without having to go inside 421 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 7: the district, but eventually I have to kind of get 422 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 7: in there, sou But I did put my sights on 423 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 7: up the road in Baltimore City. And in our last 424 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 7: phone call, you would ask if I was going to 425 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 7: perhaps with the subject matter, we would meet somebody from 426 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 7: the other political divide, and would we you know, go 427 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 7: ahead and try to you know, have a friendly conversation 428 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 7: and you know, try to persuade the other person in 429 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 7: a friendly manner and I told you I couldn't do 430 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 7: that because I was going to go into Trump Country, 431 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 7: and there is there is. 432 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 6: You know, there is a section. You know, there is 433 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 6: such a thing. 434 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 7: As Trump Country. And if you go into Baltimore City, 435 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 7: it's it's it's a lot different than Brandon Scott territory. 436 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 7: I will, I will, I will let you know that 437 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 7: it is completely different than that. So it's necessary to 438 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 7: clean up Baltimore. It it needs a little it needs 439 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 7: a little kick in the butt to get going. 440 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 2: All right. So we're talking about Johnsonunu and Scott Brown 441 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 2: running for the same seat. Both of them have served 442 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: in the US Senate. I can't think of another time 443 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 2: when two non incumbent former US Senators relying for the 444 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 2: same Senate seat. 445 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 7: This is one of the reasons that this subject matter 446 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 7: prompted me just to call it is very interesting. It's 447 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 7: very interesting. It's solid each of those each of those candidates, 448 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 7: each of these men have you know, solid footing for 449 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 7: the US Senate. That's not bad at all. My concern 450 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 7: when I look at this, if I was a member 451 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 7: in New Hampshire and I wanted to vote for a 452 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 7: person for the US Senate as a Republican. I would 453 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 7: look for the one who who can war. I hate 454 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 7: to bring that subject up, you know, I mean, you 455 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 7: know war, but you know things are pretty rough out there, 456 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 7: and we're going to have some conflicts and I want 457 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 7: I need somebody, We need the Congress to have a 458 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 7: backbone for war, and that's how we prevent it. But 459 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 7: it may come. 460 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, you told me, I think you said to me 461 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 2: an email today that there was some member of Congress 462 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 2: who said they. 463 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 7: Thought that of the Republican Party in Maryland, and he 464 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 7: said that No, Putin's not interested in piece because he 465 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 7: wants all the resources that he can get out of Ukraine. 466 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 7: He wants the land. He wants Ukraine, right, and the 467 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 7: only way that we're going to stop him is to 468 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 7: stop him, and I don't. 469 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 2: So there's an article in the Wall Street Journal tonight 470 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 2: that somehow Zelinsky has gotten a hold of Tomahawk missiles 471 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 2: and the White House. We may talk about that later. 472 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 2: The White House is saying that that is not true. 473 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal tends to nail their stories down there, 474 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 2: pretty credible newspapers, So we'll have to see how that 475 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 2: works out. I wonder if somehow, some way missiles Dunblack 476 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 2: missiles have gone to Zelenski through a third party to 477 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 2: give us a credible deniability. 478 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 7: So that is my outlook. If I was a Republican 479 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 7: in New Hampshire and I had these two candidates, I 480 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 7: would look at the one who had the background of 481 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 7: the war. 482 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: And who would that be? In your mind? 483 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 7: Is this the sunity that comes from the bushes, that 484 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 7: was working in the bushes? 485 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, the dad former Governor johnson Unhu. 486 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 2: These he has two well he is I think it's 487 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 2: several children, but two of them. One is Governor Chris 488 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,479 Speaker 2: Snunhu and the other is former Senator John Snunu, who 489 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 2: is trying to get back into the Senate after an 490 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 2: absence or what will be an absence of eighteen years. 491 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 7: Okay, well let's let's see. I don't know. I mean 492 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 7: Scott Scott Brown was rather, in my opinion, a little lamboyant. 493 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 7: Is that is that? 494 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 3: A good little but dad? 495 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,719 Speaker 2: I mean, he was a I to think of him 496 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: as being personable sort of. You know. It's one of 497 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 2: those things where when you talk about people, I'll say 498 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 2: my friend Patrick is very stubborn, and someone will say 499 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 2: to me, well, well, what are you. Then I'll say, well, 500 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 2: I'm adamant. You know, it's a it's a it's a 501 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 2: stubborn is a pejorative term. They kind of mean the 502 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 2: same thing. 503 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,239 Speaker 7: So he's Rother. He does have charismas you know, he 504 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 7: does have personality, and I don't know. 505 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 2: And well, remember they had the actor John Haam play 506 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 2: him on Saturday Night Live, and he was you know, 507 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 2: he was you know, he was. This was in twenty ten. 508 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 2: There were a lot of people who thought that he 509 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 2: might actually be the candidate to run for president in 510 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: twenty twelve. Of course, it turned out to be his 511 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 2: at that time, his fellow Massachusetts person Mitt Romney. But 512 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 2: the Romney people were a little concerned that Scott Brown 513 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 2: was going to swoop in once he defeated once he 514 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 2: defeated Martha Cokeley up here to succeed uh you know 515 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 2: Ted Kennedy, Uh, that that he had a potential to 516 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: really go national very quickly. But anyway, Hey, I gotta 517 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 2: let your one because they've got to keep rolling here. Patrick, 518 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 2: thank you, he's always got it. We talk to you soon, Thanks, Patrick, 519 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 2: have a great night. Six two five. We got one 520 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 2: line there and one line at six one seven n 521 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 2: I'm more than happy to take this into the next hour, 522 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 2: or we can change topics. It's always decided by the 523 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 2: callers tonight's side, So fill up these lines and we'll 524 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 2: continue to move here. John Sounu are former Senator John 525 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 2: Sounhu or former Senator Scott Brown in the Republican primary 526 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 2: that will be what now eleven months from now, Boy, 527 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 2: that'll be a race that will be highly contested. Good 528 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 2: for the New Hampshire TV stations and also Boston TV 529 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 2: and radio stations. Ten thirty back on Nightside right after. 530 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: This, you're on night Side with Dan Ray on w 531 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: b Z, Boston's news radio. 532 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 2: Back to the phones, who go, let me go back 533 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 2: to New Hampshire and we'll talk to Steven Merrimack, New Hampshire. 534 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 2: Steve love to know what you think of this development 535 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 2: as someone from New Hampshire. 536 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 3: Well, Dan, I really support Scott Brown. I've met him, 537 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 3: he knows me. I think that he's got the experience 538 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 3: he was, especially on the international scene because he was 539 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 3: the former ambassador to New Zealand. He is a Trumpster, 540 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 3: he does get along with Trump. I think that John E. 541 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 3: Sanunu is more of the bush variety. George W. Bush, 542 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 3: who really did not like Trump at all. And as 543 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 3: I recall going way back twenty years ago, you know, 544 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 3: he was front and center when it came to all 545 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 3: the war is that we got involved in both Afghanistan 546 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 3: and Iraq. And also when George W. Bush left office, 547 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 3: as you know, it was right in the heart of 548 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 3: the Great Recession. That's probably one of the reasons why 549 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 3: he didn't beat Shaheen, you know, back in two thousand 550 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 3: and eight. And I would have to describe him as 551 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 3: a has been. I don't think he's you know, really 552 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 3: relevant in this day and age. I think it you know, 553 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 3: Scott Brown is he may be older, but I think 554 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 3: his ideas are younger. And I think if he's going 555 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 3: to ride the tide of what Trump does over the 556 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 3: next eleven months, you know, Trump has a really successful 557 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 3: twenty six which I hope he does, and I think 558 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 3: he'll do very well. But as far as the battle 559 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 3: of two heavyweights, I don't know. I think it's going 560 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 3: to come down to a few debate appearances and you 561 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 3: know what will they debate? 562 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 2: And yeah, well it's it's a long time between now. 563 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 2: In September, there's a poll up in New Hampshire that 564 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 2: show John Sanunu with a higher favorability rating than Scott Brown. 565 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 2: But those numbers are always numbers that can change or 566 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 2: they could stay the same. Obviously, Kris Sanunu has really 567 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 2: distinguished himself in also the family name. I think he 568 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 2: was a really good governor. I don't live in New Hampshire, 569 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 2: but follow Fred. 570 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 3: You know, I've met Scott Brown, I've met Kristen. I 571 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 3: think Kris Sennina would be Actually I kept calling his 572 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 3: office when he was his governor. I said, boy, he 573 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 3: would be a great president. Actually, I would love to 574 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 3: see him, you know in the international I mean the 575 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 3: national scene as president, and he would do a good job. 576 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,239 Speaker 3: He gets along with everybody, and he's got the energy. 577 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 3: You haven't seen this guy, how much energy he has. 578 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 3: He's got all O. 579 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 2: I know, I know Kristan very well. I probably know 580 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 2: Kris Sanunu as well as I know any major politician. 581 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 2: He has a lot of energy, this no doubt about that. 582 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 2: He also is a very quick and sharp mind. And 583 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 2: he also was a great personality. I mean, Kristinuu, well, 584 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 2: whoever you are, it's tough not to like Kristinunu. I mean, 585 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 2: there are also Democrats who have charm and uh and 586 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 2: and are likable people, and then there are people on 587 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 2: both sides who are not likable. So you know, so 588 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 2: you're with Scott Brown, Steve. Okay, I got it down. 589 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 2: I got it down. I thank you. 590 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see what happens. But it's interesting that he 591 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 3: would declare now I'm wondering why. 592 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 2: Well, I think there are some questions about that I share. 593 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 2: I share some of those questions. So we'll we'll keep 594 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 2: on top of it. I promise, Thanks, Steve, please keep 595 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 2: calling show a great night. 596 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 3: Good night. 597 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 2: Let me go to Tom and Melrose a little closer 598 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 2: back home here, Tom, you are next time nights. 599 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 9: I go right ahead, Hi, dam I think the first 600 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 9: time I've called. 601 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 2: You, first time caller. Well, Tom, welcome, welcome to get 602 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 2: a run of the art of applause from our digital 603 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 2: studio audience. You go right ahead. 604 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 9: I appreciate them, and I appreciate you. I'm a Democrat, 605 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 9: but I've always the times i've tuned in, I always 606 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 9: find you fair minded, trying to treat everyone respectfully, and 607 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 9: there we don't have enough of that these days. 608 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 2: So well, thank you. I appreciate that that's what I 609 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 2: try to do. Maybe I don't succeed in it all 610 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 2: the time, but I do try. 611 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,280 Speaker 9: That's what leads me to my question, Frum. I fold 612 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 9: your assistant who was screening the call, that I didn't 613 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 9: know what the topic was when I first called in. 614 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,240 Speaker 9: I didn't know it was strictly about Sindana and Brown. 615 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 9: It seemed to be about general New England politics. And 616 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 9: I wanted to know what you thought if you ever 617 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 9: thought of Graham Plattner, whom you probably know, but I 618 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 9: don't know if your listeners know that. 619 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 2: He's the guy in Maine. Right he's a. 620 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 9: Marine and an oyster farmer, and he's a democratic socialist, 621 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 9: and yet he tries so hard to be to get 622 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 9: his followers to be respectful of Trump supporters. In other words, 623 00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 9: do you think of the guy that's going to try 624 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 9: to bring peop together as a centrist? 625 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 2: The only thing I know about him now, the only thing, 626 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 2: and I'm not I don't know much about him. He 627 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 2: apparently had some sort of tattoo on his body. You 628 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 2: know the story that I'm talking about. 629 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, I noticed no, but he had a tattoo on 630 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 9: his body, which apparently was a. 631 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 2: Tattoo that was popular with the German army during World 632 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 2: War Two. I think he claimed that he was he 633 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 2: got that tattoo. He didn't know the significance of it 634 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 2: while he was stationed in Slovakia. But whenever he's running 635 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 2: as a Democrat, I believe for the US Senate seat 636 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 2: that Susan Collins holds in Maine. And of course the 637 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 2: governor of Maine, Governor Mills, is running for that seat 638 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 2: up there as well. So i'd have to know more 639 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 2: about this gentleman before I really offered. I could just 640 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 2: tell you that he's been in the news the last 641 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 2: couple of days for all the wrong reasons. 642 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:04,919 Speaker 7: Right. 643 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 9: Well, you know, anybody who starts to become a bit 644 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 9: of a sensation gets attacked from all sides. But I 645 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 9: think he's doing what you're trying to do. He is 646 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 9: trying so hard to bring everyone together. You seek such 647 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 9: of him. If people say anything against Trump, he'll shut them, 648 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 9: he say, hear me out. 649 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 2: Well, I can only say I have no tattoos anywhere 650 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 2: on my body, and the last thing that you would 651 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 2: find with me would have a Nazi tattoob So I'm 652 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 2: willing to to do whatever I have to do. I'm 653 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 2: not running for office, so I don't have to worry 654 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 2: about that. Hey, Tom, I loved you, Carl. It was 655 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 2: a lot of fun chatting with you. We'll find out 656 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 2: more about this gentleman and if he's someone who has 657 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 2: a strong position as a democratic socialist, but he also 658 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 2: wants to try to get along with people. I think 659 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 2: we need more politicians, more people like that. 660 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 9: Okay, yeah, and you're one of them. 661 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 2: Thanks Tom. I appreciate your call. Thank you very thank 662 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 2: you a nice compliment, and I hope you come back 663 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 2: as a more regular caller. This is your first call call, 664 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 2: very thoughtful. Talk to you soon, all right. I will 665 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 2: love to stick with this, Thanks Tom. Love to stick 666 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 2: with this. Scott Brown Johnson. I think it's fascinating, but 667 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,720 Speaker 2: maybe you don't. And we can go to a couple 668 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 2: of other topics if you'd like. You as the audience 669 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 2: decide six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty six 670 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 2: one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty. Light the lines 671 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 2: up and we'll stick with this. If not, we will 672 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 2: move on. Anyone who's on the line. I will take 673 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 2: your call on the other side of the eleven o'clock 674 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 2: News